Eachine Wizard X220HV 6S Death Roll Part 3

[@scooterpie1143]

You are the 4th reviewer to have this issue.. Esc issues, Not good... Thanks for your time..

[@dionisoisback8235]

Thank you for your troubleshooting effort, you're helping the community out with every single detail you show us to solve this issue. All of us spent 150€ to enjoy a trustworthy 6s quad and we got a faulty quadcopter, so we all are on it and I'm sure we'll figure out what the solution is.

[@bigdatapimp]

I had an esc board that did the same thing. It was caused by a tiny little resistor/capacitor that came off. It took me for ever to find it. It would fly just fine until you started doing aggressive maneuvers.

[@thomastommy9864]

I wonder if a death roll could be produced on a test bench without props. Violently move the controls around to simulate a surge as if you're in the air. I suppose if it happens on the bench then it's not related to g-force or movements, but possible surges or noise.

[@MoppelMat]

good idea! I will test this as soon I get mine! (still in customs)

[@quadwizard]

​@AndyRC you are correct about the pins between the FC and ESC.. I de-pinned my boards and soldered them and now they work correctly!

[@mikefoley360]

I like Pete's sense of humour. We need more of Pete

[@KenKneknaneek]

Great information and nice flying. Happy New Year to you and yours and of course, Happy flying.

[@arnerrvik7586]

Did you check the blackbox, to see if it was the same esc/motor? Thanks!

[@AndyRCchannel]

There is no need. Can hear and see which esc it is but good ideas

[@JUSBCAUZ1]

JB had a similar problem with the esc not handling the 6s, he had a total power failure. so i think your on the right track. ps. nice video Andy

[@AndyRCchannel]

not total power failure. only two beeps. thats signal regain. three beeps is total power fail. in blheli_S

[@cnrd79]

Excelent review. Your channel is my deadline for decisions. Thanks for this. Meantime, I complete your 6s cheap list and the value was much higher than the HV average U$ 160. Above U$ 300...

[@OffsetFPV]

really nice to see you flying somewhere different.

[@federicobotta5103]

hello andry .. the problem is the esc n2 the one on the right of the camera that in the fast variations of acceleration gives evidence on betaflight (I think it is the esc and not the engine)

[@AndyRCchannel]

That's what I say in the video?

[@xlpro2k]

Mine is doing the exact thing thing!! I have sent an email to Banggood to see if I can return it. If not I'll try some suggestions listed below. What a shame, i was looking forward to some stick banging with this quad on 6S!! Real bummer, but maybe fixable with BF. Thanks Andy for another great video. Also I cannot for the life of me get the Foxeer OSD to turn off! Anyone know how to do this, I've tried all the Camera menus multiple times. Thanks for your help everyone!

[@M4NIEKpl]

Hello. I had the same problem with DarkMax 220 and with one of two X215 PRO. Nothing helped, but i more change of settings. I changed in DarkMax FC for another and the same. In X215, the problem occurs from a 5s battery, in a DM it is blinking already at 4s.

[@gibbsyfpv4783]

The death roll will be down to the Pin header even if it is seated correctly this type of pin connector can loss connection easy. It would be worth removing the pin headers and soldering wires on. Joshua had a total power loss but that could still be down to connector as it probably supply's the FC with power.

[@MoppelMat]

I will try

[@gibbsyfpv4783]

Let us know how it goes

[@MoppelMat]

@@gibbsyfpv4783 I got mine in the mail today and took a look at the PIN header. I have to say that I am not able to solder wires there. You would need a heat gun soldering station which I do not have. I do not want to break it on the first day. I will try software solutions first (like my other comment here today). My biggest fear is to break it while reproducing the error. I do not have spare arms or anything yet for it...

[@arsylfpv2848]

From scrath to build a copter is always the best!

[@harrisonbowie829]

ii say it is the pins ,its the some with the v tail 215 from eachine ,that will only work on the binch .take it out to fly and have to work to get it going.

[@Rich-TeaFPV]

Great video Andy 👍 we all appreciate your efforts, this will definitely help someone suffering with this issue😀

[@TheMadmacs]

i mentioned before my problem with a signal wire giving me a similar problem, i wasn't able to spot the issue until i managed to repeat it on the bench, somewhere somehow my signal wire had been pinched and damaged and i was able to get the two start up beeps just by messing with the wire. maybe if you could shake the quad around at the bench and find out if its the same motor everytime it would give a clue as to whats goin on, dodgy connection dodgy 3v supply to last esc on the board or something. as always great job getting people in the air and spectacular job keeping them in the air.

[@Kikerumbo]

Could you install a 35/50V 1000uF Low ESR capacitor? That's a noise issue... Not even Airbot/Holybro/Aikon... etc recommend to use 6S without a capacitor.

[@AndyRCchannel]

you see where it says part 3.... go watch the other parts. cheers

[@Kikerumbo]

@@AndyRCchannelPart 2 min 0:45, my bad. Could you tell the characteristics of the capacitor, please? Thanks for the effort. By the way, those DYS motors you recommend, aren't any good. Check RCGroups.

[@onytabrayericmay]

I have my own custom quad and it has done this exact same death rolls no matter what flight controller I've put in it for the past 2 years

[@RCinginSC]

I personally think you are right about it being the back EMF. That's what I thought when I saw JB's vid on this. Either underrated compenonents on the board or not enough capacitor filtration built in.

[@TheMadmacs]

i just thought, it might still be a gyro problem if the esc is beeping after the crash? my esc beeped during the spin of death, it would still mean the esc is affected by the violent moves but not the initial problem? and the g force from the spin must be gigantic, just watching it, i beeped twice

[@richardbernsee7810]

Jamming the connection harness into their sockets hard (connection between the boards) seems to fix that problem on a mamba mk2 board

[@1kuhny]

My my own build did this and I could only narrow it down to the ESCs. Maybe a desync. But that quad is now used for spare parts. The problem dissapeared on the completely new one. XD

[@SickocrowAU]

Does the FC lock up hard after that ROD? If so it's the 5v reg on the FC getting too much shit from the ESCs, and Gyro gets peaked by the voltage and drops out. Just like the first version CL_racing 4FS did, not enough filtering to the vital FC components.

[@AndyRCchannel]

11:55

[@FPVMgunit13]

The death toll happened to Joshua Bardwell to last week (check out the last 8 minutes of his video on this, you will see it)

[@jorgeneo560]

is this problem fixed?

[@TheAfroengineer]

I had the same problem with a build of mine it turned out the esc was bad I replaced it and now no problems.

[@giuliod5017]

What you think about J Bardwells quad Kit ?

[@AndyRCchannel]

have you got a link? thx

[@giuliod5017]

AndyRC thanks for your response, here is the link of the rotor riot store with Bardwells quad kit: store.rotorriot.com/bardwells-budget-build-kit/

[@AndyRCchannel]

its not bad for sure but remember thats 4s, you can go much cheaper with 4s I think I can get under the price of that and the wizard with 6s but we shall see. Im not keen on the soft mounted gyro it can cause glitches under high G and josh has ties to RR and holybro so that might be worth thinking about.

[@giuliod5017]

AndyRC thx, have you planned to build one in future (as UAV Features did with his 99$ built)?? I’m really interested to see which components you would choose as (I think) the most reliable youtuber in this hobby!

[@jordanbass3210]

Inverted yaw spin at 8 minutes 30 seconds was beautiful

[@AndyRCchannel]

Thank you :-)

[@hsinyen6942]

Thanks for the excellent review. I just got one. Can I use 4S 1300 mah 100C battery for easier freestyle flight? Thanks.

[@deanwaters7748]

Would it be anything to do with end point settings?

[@deanwaters7748]

Got same issue with my diatone gtm5 no idea what to do either pal

[@dmagic1one]

Despite what you say I've had many sets of Racerstar esc on a 5 inch that did that same Deathroll on quick 180 backflips. Yes the fix for me was changing the startup power in blheli to 0.125. I even did a build after about 7 months and forgot to set that and got the deathroll. I changed it and never have seen it ever again. Its no harm in giving it a try despite what you think about it.

[@AndyRCchannel]

It's been tried and proven not to work by manu fpv cheers

[@vegashelinut]

Hey Andy, I have two of the Eachine 220HV quads and they flew great until I updated the firmware to the most recent Betaflight version and then the trouble started. I got on the Banggood site and noticed that you should not update to the most recent version of firmware and if you did then you need to put the original default config file back in for it to work. My question is can I just copy and paste the whole file and put it into the command line or how should it be done? I have tried to just copy it all to the CL in Betaflight but the quad will still not work correctly. I am at a loss and could really use some guidance on this if you could help... Thanks for any help you could give Andy! ~ Don

[@SHess65]

Good one Pete. that's hilarious!

[@Mywel]

Bardwell told the same about this quad and i see other youtubers they had problems with the ESC in 6S, Eachine should solve this quickly or this quad (is a good quad imp) would gain a bad reputation.

[@mtyler2469]

Yeah flux the pins on the board sides and reflow them I've had to do that before on boards that join that way. I just stay away from that type of connection now on.

[@AndyRCchannel]

eachine are coming up with a fix so im leaving it till they come up with a solution no doubt just like the wizard arms they will send out new parts

[@Aweburn82]

I had the same once. Fc to esc signal/ voltage. In my case the bec somehow stopped powering the fc in fast maneuvres. So i guess your fc loses power.

[@Aweburn82]

Was a few years ago. Older gear. Fc needed 5V.

[@AndyRCchannel]

Watch to the end. Thx

[@schummiehugo]

andy.. dhit you run it on 3 s ant 4 s ant 5 s ??? gr

[@BuZZarDFPV]

Or the long story short, should you still want the quad, order it with a better 4 in 1 esc or a set or individuals and you will be good to?

[@peterzingler6221]

you can build a 6s quad with good parts for under 200bucks so Theres no point

[@BuZZarDFPV]

@@peterzingler6221 For sure, that's why my 1st quad was a PNP and never again i started with the ol kingkong 200gt.... I only custom build now. But you know you will get those people that just have to / want to. Or at least anyone who has one now knows just change the ESC and you should have a good quad.

[@maximusimany4275]

I had one of my build doing that it happened after crash the filtering was toooo high was clean build(before crash lol) next time I fly that motor got super hot it didn’t burn but exactly same thing as this . Still I think if you fly that on 5 or 4 s I’m thinking not going to fail safe anymore back in day I try build and wasn’t lucky so I bought a wizard 220 I still remember those esc burn like hell!!!!! Thanks for all videos

[@AndyRCchannel]

it happens on 4 and 5s sadly

[@jordanbass3210]

In my experience whenever I had the same problem it would work fine with smooth flying but whenever I would do a snap roller flip it would have a flip of death it was because I had a damaged motor one of the windings would be damaged. Does it flip to the same side every time or does it flip too different sides?

[@AndyRCchannel]

Everyone's example is doing it so I think we can rule that one out but good shout

[@AndyRCchannel]

Everyone's example is doing it so I think we can rule that one out but good shout

[@AndyRCchannel]

Everyone's example is doing it so I think we can rule that one out but good shout

[@Clif_Brown]

@AndyRC, if you take it very high and induce the flip of death, can it recover sync and fly again?

[@AndyRCchannel]

there is no way to recover no. the ESC loses its signal

[@robmalan7137]

Thanks for your efforts with this one, trying to find a solution for us poor saps who already bought it. too bad the solution is having to change our flying style, and having to worry about it going down every time we fly it. I think Eachine could have made a killing with this model if they would have taken the time to test and fix before they released it, you'd think they would have learned that lesson by now, slow learners I guess. Anyway thanks, and Happy New Years!

[@AndyRCchannel]

they only care about your money not your experience

[@bandobandit353]

There's a lot of violence in this episode!

[@iphone_productions9143]

Alot of ppl are saying the esc cant handle the 6s power so question, bc im a noob , on 4s it will b fine?

[@markclark8490]

it is nice to see the good and bad in a review thanks

[@graylegocity]

Joshua Bardwell fixed his by turning the demag compensation up. It might work for you.

[@MrDiemX]

Hi andy, I see you also replied to JB's review. Are you saying that if you keep the max vel deg/s below 900, you will not get death rolls with 6S even when doing rolls, flips?

[@AndyRCchannel]

I can't guarantee for certain but I'd say it's less likely.

[@MrDiemX]

@@AndyRCchannel Ok. Will be even more exiting when it arrives to test :p

[@halfdeadkc6030]

Just wondering how much rc dead band do you normally use??

[@AndyRCchannel]

around 5

[@peterzingler6221]

You tried reflowing the ESC to FC Pins?

[@TheHuman1992]

Hi friends, what should I do to avoid crash? I ordered this drone and only then I saw such a problem.

[@AndyRCchannel]

9:55

[@MoppelMat]

@@AndyRCchannel how much PID is too much? I like 1033, but I would go with 900 if it fixes it...

[@Nickc582]

I just watched Bardwell do a video on this same eachine and had the same death spin happend

[@AndyRCchannel]

yup avoid

[@Gosuminer]

The first reflex is to continue virtual troubleshooting in the comments but turning to more stable quads while Eachine sorts out the problem is propably the more sensible thing to do. Maybe some HV owner sticks some quality ESCs on it and can help narrow down the problem.

[@AndyRCchannel]

Totally correct. And when eachine find the fix I hope they recall these ones. Most likely they will send out the replacent part

[@duckslave]

Andy - why not just 4S motors on it? Sounds like the easiest fix.

[@AndyRCchannel]

Still does it on 4s

[@duckslave]

AndyRC - thanks! What a shame - I guess that means replacing the stack if you want to do high speed flips, rolls, etc.

[@AndyRCchannel]

eachine are finding a fix and will be sorting this for people who bought it some how

[@duckslave]

AndyRC - any word from Eachine on a fix?

[@duckslave]

Any news from Eachine on a fix, Andy?

[@SeanFanelli]

my x220s did this but i lost the whole esc after it

[@systemsky7921]

Don't have any of these issues with my original wizard 😂😂. In fact I've just put all the electronics on to the 5 inch Dingo frame. It's a little tank 😁

[@gavlarfpv7841]

SystemSky79 esc fires 🔥

[@slingitsideways]

Building your own kwad is part of the fun if you ask me. Sure it's daunting at first, hell it took me nearly 2 days to build my first quad because I was YouTubing/Googling almost every step to make sure I was getting it right first time. But it helps you understand how it all works and when you do crash it, you know how to take it apart and repair it. And yes it still flies, but is reframed and demoted to being a basher that I let mates have a try with now. I just can't seem to part with it.

[@stage3muppet]

It’s an overload and thermal shutdown issue on one of the components

[@AndyRCchannel]

If it was thermal shut down It would do it under full throttle which it doesn't

[@stage3muppet]

AndyRC yeah meant more like something drawing too much current etc

[@MoppelMat]

@@stage3muppet yeah, it would draw that too much current on full throttle, which it does not.

[@seba7973]

What part of England you are live in ?

[@leeit2me]

It's the Pilot that is browning out.... HAHHAH.. J/K!!.. I guess V2 of this quad is coming out soon??

[@serhiysemenko2027]

I bought this quad about 2 weeks before your first review a that was too late to cancel the order :( So unlucky. If I knew about this problem earlier I would definitely build the quad according to your suggestion. Haven't received it, and not looking forward anymore to fly it :( Nevertheless thanks for the good review!

[@stakeout2]

Buy a different flight controler and use that if you have problems,

[@federicobotta5103]

forgive me I do not understand English well ... in the end the problem is solved? connecting the pins better and cutting the heat shrinking of the motor?

[@AndyRCchannel]

there is no fix for this quad. eachine need to fix it

[@maxiemusfpv198]

federico botta amigo, todavía no se arregla el problemo, lo que pasa es que el esc no tiene la capacidad de hacer movimientos rapidos. Para arreglar el problema se necesita tal ves differente escs.

[@federicobotta5103]

@@AndyRCchannel The only thing that let me going on in the air was in blheli32 suite to change “demag compensation“ to high and “maximum acceleration“ to 15%. Now it flies perfectly. I hope to help anyone, I was desperated with this trouble.. turning to the forum I read this solution for another drone .. you say you could also try on x220hv?

[@trt969]

I'm nnob but, would soft mounting the FC help?

[@AndyRCchannel]

that is answered in part one of the vid series but in short. no cheers

[@kamquadfpvdrone6078]

You said this was violent, crazy manoeuvre? Why should one buy this quad and then fly it like a DJI Phantom?

[@AndyRCchannel]

Where in the video did I say you should buy it and fly it like a phantom ?

[@kamquadfpvdrone6078]

@@AndyRCchannel I'm just so frustrated and angry, because I have one and it's doing what it does best, that is, falling from the sky on almost every roll! I have break an arm (very easy), destroy a battery...When I ordered it, I haven't noticed anything about death rolls on YT. At this time, I'm sending mails back and forth with Banggood. Probably they will want get rid of me with a 5% discount on next purchase...

[@RCDUDEFPV]

Great info mate, and wow, roll off death alright

[@sakibian01]

Whoa man that was brave!

[@im_ricebowl]

"i need better friends" -Jan 01, 2018 AndyRc....start the year greatt hahahaha

[@yokonunz]

Have you considered not to use DSHOT?

[@AndyRCchannel]

I have however I must have spent a good 4 hours taking this thing apart to clear the mud out, replace arms. Eachine still dont know what is causing the problem so I am leaving them to it

[@yokonunz]

@@AndyRCchannel I could be digital signal getting corrupted when doing hard stuff and amps spikes. Try multishot if you can and let us know. You have a consistent way to reproduce the issue

[@dronereviewman9580]

My fly-egg was doing the same thing yesterday!!!! Think i might give up on the hobby!!! 1st day of 2019 i got a speeding ticket and crashed 2 drones!!!!!!!!! Why!!!!!! Why!!!!!!!!!

[@huckaberryfpv4986]

If your drone was flyi ng ok before,try things like reflashing new firmware and recalibrating esc's,if too much take a break and research,but do not give up,happy new years bud to you and fam:)

[@MrBumbles2]

happy new year , dam tomorrow will be better.

[@CaribbeanZapatta]

I am retired and I fly EVERY DAY ! most nights I am up till 3am working on new builds, repairs, etc most days flying something is an issue ….recently power plug on goggles is lose ..but damn this is such a great hobby !

[@FlyingPhilUK]

Never give up! Never surrender!

[@pawlikenemy9485]

I have solved this problem as well. I was unhappy, no one could deal properly. I gradually replaced all the components. Without success. Problem removed very easily (in my case). OFF THE DYNAMIC FILTER IN THE BF SETUP AND INCREASE THE MINIMUM SPEED OF THE MOTORS TO 8-9%.

[@videogamepolak0]

is there something possibly in betaflight set from the factory that is off spec or "seriously" set wrong? Im not sure myself so i dont want to seem like a noob or pretend to be of technical knowledge suggestion any particular things but id say check everything in betaflight like you did with the 2.5 idle setting and raised it, maybe something else is off. They couldve copied/pasted some settings from another similar build and figured oh its good to go meanwhile its not. Also maybe this isnt a true 6s quad. Does it do the death roll with a 5s battery? I know ive seen a couple videos watching where a quad was claimed to run on 5s, and when they ran it on 5s it acted erratically on hard maneuvers or full punch outs.

[@AndyRCchannel]

HV = Hight volt

[@sgtsawhill1]

Sounds like they put 4s esc's on a 6s quad.... crappy esc's have plagued all the wizards

[@Northernlight1982]

This is the exact same issue I had with the Wizard x220s. It was a nightmare. Broke so many arms tried several Eachine ESC’s but it kept doing it. Only after a complete rebuild with all different components it was gone. Since it was my first copter it was a nightmare. A lot of not flying, paying and waiting for parts and unscrewing and soldering everything again. But in the end I learned a lot with regards to building. But my experience with Eachine wasn’t a good one.

[@jacobshepherd3997]

Bjorn Hees huh, I fly the x220 not the x220s but you’re the first I’ve heard of the death roll with the x220s. Does the x220s have a 4 in 1 esc?

[@Northernlight1982]

Jacob Shepherd Yes it does.

[@jacobshepherd3997]

Bjorn Hees I wonder if it’s possible that they are using similar 4s esc’s on the hv and the x220s and that’s where this issue is

[@MoppelMat]

@@jacobshepherd3997 I fly the x220s and have the x220HV on order. I did not have a death roll on 1020 PIDs on the x220s yet. (on 4S) hope it stays this way

[@snotsworld]

Hey guys I just confirmed this must be esc. The issue only seems to happen to me on 6s though so the drone seems fine for me on 4a and If I don't go to aggressive. Just thought I would add this for anyone.

[@propgear123]

Shame man, hope they can sort it out. TBF the change of an arm hassle would be a deal breaker for most, especially noobs. In other news man you are up early posting........or you are going to bed late haha ;) Happy new year buddy :)

[@splugereport]

Probably not worth it but maybe as a last ditch before you have a patreon giveaway try soldering the FC and ESC board?

[@sbelljr]

At least the death roll video is fun to watch 😂

[@AndyRCchannel]

yeah amazing the arm didnt go that time. luck of the draw. this frame sucks but made a nice kaleidoscope

[@imager09tube]

Something is wrong with the flight controller! Thanks, Andy!

[@AndyRCchannel]

11:55

[@rotarfpv7133]

Awesome Video Dude! Keep up the videos one Haych Vee copters! ;p

[@DeanChapmanFPV]

Andy what did this deathroll look like in your dvr footage?

[@AndyRCchannel]

It's in the video

[@DeanChapmanFPV]

AndyRC sorry Andy I should watch to the end before commenting 🤦🏻‍♂️and yes the fc is not resetting itself 👍🏻

[@AndyRCchannel]

no worries. Cheers

[@FPVMgunit13]

@@DeanChapmanFPV its mid way through lol... 6:53

[@DeanChapmanFPV]

FPV - Mgunit13 I got interrupted while watching 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Kabab]

It's because you keep calling it 'hay-ch vee' and it doesn't like that. 😂. But really, holy hell that's a weird response. It's like it thinks about if it likes what you just did and then decides to flip out in spite. That is the weirdest effect I've ever seen. This attitude is consistent between other ones too?

[@AndyRCchannel]

stick yours to 1000deg and then try sharp maneuvers. i have no idea why in some states the letter H is silent when said on its own when the letter itself used in every other word is Haych all i will say there is ave a good day unting for your lost eaich vee when doing sarp rolls ;) its got a loud buzzer on it so it souldn't be ard. its only america that teaces not to say haych so it might be worth looking where usa comes in the education rankings ;) It took a lot of googling to understand where these H comments come from haha. cheers bob

[@Kabab]

@@AndyRCchannel 😂😂😂😂 it's so ard. 🤣🤣🤣

[@hc100]

i have the exact same problem. snappy rolls, flips, yaws, causing it to death roll. pretty consistent.

[@nickthegreek1882]

Kabab FPV I’m down in Suffolk and H is H to us it must be a northern thing

[@short-circuitz]

We say H too here in Oregon... Think it's like the Z compared to Zed in Canada... Its the "hay" instead of Ā in the beginning of the H sound... Lol!!! Somebody tell me you can understand this :p never had to write out noises before! Hilarious

[@skypilot23]

Andy does drama Better man than me I had 2 mystery malfunctions myself today felt betrayed On one my prop had simply worked loose- violent maneuvers triggered here too Other the osd disappeared sob Had to reflash Both solved hope fully too dark to test fly

[@filiped7298]

Thanks for pointing out this for us, Andy. Better pay extra from something better.

[@pittbullpuppie]

Lol I need better friends....that gave me a good laugh ....nice review ....cheers from australia ......

[@mrbutchee1]

Sounds like to much trouble for a beginner. To actually call this an beginner kwad. Pffft. Anyway, thanks for the review Andy. Like I said before in another video that you posted about this kwad. I ordered you $100 suggestion build but tweaked it a little different motors and different frame. Which the price came out just a little more than the Wizard HV. I like the idea better of building. Instead of buying and then trying to trouble shoot when things go wrong.

[@AndyRCchannel]

I agree, another reason to put people off. they buy this. crash it and quit

[@MoppelMat]

beginner does not fly 1000 d/s PIDs

[@Miguel-og5go]

que haces siguiendo a los pájaros?

[@jamesrostie4784]

Same thing happened to Joshua bardwell

[@mshane86]

Solder those pins and do a nice hard snap roll over a landfill or rubbish dump, with no GoPro. If it proves to be the esc's at least it will land where it belongs.

[@ToddTube1]

By now Eachine has made enough money to start building quality stuff but they don't because they don't care, It's low quality stuff at a low price. They are not made to be great, they are made to be just good enough.

[@k.d.r.ckevind.6855]

0Hey Bro. You really arent having any luck at all with this model huh.?lol Anyways ,, I recall the days of the Furibee Darkmaxx, and just how bad ass It was / Is, though if u recall you(those whom bought one,) couldnt fly it past 4s without the Flip Shit and sometimes destroying , like it did mine,, breaking the front Arm,, and just after I replaced the damn thing aswell, though after going through its paces, , and I'll oi thiGB eventually corrected the FC issue and well I suspect BG will aswell , that is afree enough.CUSTOMERS complain , or maybe ur gonna end up being correct ? All I know is that mine is still flying like a dream, though I dont pull off even anything close to what u can pull off!! Hey Andy, I apologize if my message is alil long winded etc Take care and Keep up the awesome Reviews.

[@NATGEOANDSTUFFPaulbrannan]

god dont you just love our uk weather.and seaguls that look like terradactils .

[@zoltangremsperger5361]

it worth it to save more money and buy a better quad. get an EMAX Hawk5 or as Andy said put together a quad by yourself. there are good step by step vids on youtube for help.

[@AndyRCchannel]

Emax hawk 5 is race copter and 4s there is a split now between these two classes of copter

[@Fpvfreaky]

I don’t like the arms. Where the nuts are bolted together they don’t look right. That’s most likely how yours Broke Andy. And that heat shrink on the motors I find that on most who use that. On the dji’s I find, when they rub on the bell housing.

[@fpvclub7256]

I am not a fan of these Wizzard Quads. But I stopped in for a thumbs up!. ;) Happy New Years and Happy Flying!

[@MoppelMat]

what about github.com/betaflight/betaflight/wiki/Yaw-Spin-Recovery-and-Gyro-Overflow-Detect Gyro_overflow_detect is special code intended to deal with overflow issues on ICM gyros. The default is to be on, for all axes. It is unwise to disable this if your quad has an ICM gyro. It is not needed or helpful for MPU gyros. This quad has an MPU Gyro (MPU-6000) so we should disable this feature. Gyro_overflow_detect = off and NOT gyro_overflow_decet what someone on the internet is shouting all over the place ... I got mine x220HV today and are going to test this tomorrow hopefully.

[@peterzingler6221]

You cant even do a normal flip without it going crazy ...oh dear

[@neojeets]

Thats a shame. A quad that can't do violent maneuvers isn't a quad at all ;)