Eamon Lynch: Eugenio Chacarra is proof of LIV's consequences and deceit | Golf Today | Golf Channel

[@jimmckittrick6515]

Charrara didn't play well enough to earn his spot just like what would happen on the PGA Tour. As far as the majors, you play well enough and you get an invite like Neiman has over the last couple years. Sour grapes from him after not playing well enough.

[@kennethmckinney2532]

Yep. Pretty simple. Somehow Niemann, Puig and others are trying their asses off to get in majors. Good play takes care of everything

[@MultiRastaman3]

So that just absolves LIV of LYING to their players about ‘oh yeah you’ll get World Ranking points?’ I notice how you just conveniently didn’t mention that. Not to mention Chacarra won on the tour and yet all these other bums like Phil or Bubba Watson who have been putrid the entire time they’ve been on LIV get to keep their spots? It’s a sham of a league and you comparing it even remotely to the PGA Tour is asinine.

[@jamesdailey5485]

A lot of guys who haven't played well enough but they're still on LIV...

[@kennethmckinney2532]

@@jamesdailey5485 you ever think maybe they are under contract for a certain period of time?

[@brianmartinac7834]

will be a lot of tour players crying after this year as they tighten up who they give cards to .......................... quite a few of them may have wished they went to LIV LOL

[@steviewonder2492]

I miss the days before LIV when the pga tour was fun to watch. Stayed up late to see the final group.

[@darkspectrum916]

The pga is fun to watch still with all the young stars coming up. The TGL is going to be fun also, give them time and I agree w u about the days before liv also.

[@Oahugolfguy]

@@darkspectrum916thus not what he is saying. The it’s tour was boring to watch before Liv (not all the time but too often).

[@clintsanderson6019]

He took a risk and made millions. I’ll try to hold my tears back.

[@walteroddo5593]

If he played better he would still be there…I like him but it is on him

[@industrialpalletworx3548]

Imagine that....here's the thing everyone misses. Greg Norman tried his 40 years ago, that's not new. What makes it new though is Greg Norman has become the Great White Shark of the business world since then. He didn't have the massive company he has now when he tried this 40 years ago. Greg essentially took his deal making skills he acquired along the way and hoodwinked these players to get what he wanted. He or someone in his orbit outright lied to the players or implied what they was going to happen. In all reality does anyone believe that the likes of Phil Mickelson, DJ, Brooks, Bryson, Rahm, Sergio would really be playing on a tour without OWGR points? Serious question. Nope. Nobody had that on their bingo card. Yet here we are. I'm sure Rahm was meant to believe that the deal was imminent with the PGA Tour yet here we are. Still no deal.

[@GeneIvey-j3r]

Hallelujah brother preach on!

[@jcd-kh7rn]

the point is that PIF/Saudis have been allowed to be involved in other sports. PGA Tour not only have tried to prevent them being involved but they've consistently tried to stop LIV functioning as an effective tour. Why shouldn't they have ranking points? The stupid part is that the PGA Tour will ultimately let PIF be involved in funding it.

[@industrialpalletworx3548]

@@jcd-kh7rn clearly you don't know what the requirements are for OWGR points. It has to be a 72 hole tournament minimum with a cut. I don't think there's a field size minimum. LIV wants nothing to do with that. If you don't meet the minimum requirements you don't get points. Simple. Secondly, the PGA Tour is a private entity. Meaning they can tell whomever they want that may or may not want to invest to go get effed. If you wanted to buy into McDonalds or whatever where you live and they said no. You wouldn't like it but you would have to accept it. It's the same thing. I have no problems with having LIV. I don't like there closed off stance and I don't like the no cut. The other argument to be made is if LIV would have gotten OWGR points then the Champions Tour should get points to (54 holes no cut). In my opinion if LIV went to 72 holes and a cut they would have no trouble getting more players to make the jump. Plus add in a more realistic means to qualify and they would be golden. As it is now you either are playing for top money with them or the Asian tour where you're barely making more then mini tour events. There's no in between.

[@jcd-kh7rn]

@ no I'm just not gullible enough to believe everything I'm told by US networks who rely on the PGA Tour and who it suits to have everything based in the US. The PGA Tour is one of the adjudicators on who gets ranking points and the likes of the DPWT are heavily reliant on them. The PGA Tour is quite happy to hold events with no cut with a reduced field and a large number of ranking points on offer. My point about allowing PIF to enter golf wasn't necessarily that they had to have ownership of the PGA Tour. In tennis they sponsor rankings, Next Gen etc. However, it looks as though PIF may well end up with being investors and on the board of the PGA Tour anyway.

[@industrialpalletworx3548]

@jcd-kh7rn you can call it gullible all you want but the minimum standard is the minimum standard. Like it or not it is what it is. LIV doesn’t meet the threshold plain and simple. So they players were scammed.

[@user-js5gy1kj1l]

Every decision you make has a consequence, good or bad. Deal with it, learn from it. And yes, they (LIV Players) were lied to, there was never OWGR rankings in the cards for LIV once they decided to make up their own rules. But hey, LIV is a great retirement tour for Poulter, Stenson and the lads.

[@Tom-ok2rh]

Exactly..those Ferraris in Poulters garage cost plenty to maintain..

[@chevy4x466]

Sounds like he is crying all the way to the bank. 😂😂😂

[@braydenboyko8525]

He’s made enough money to live without working if he wants 😂 do golfers not understand that you can’t just stay on tours without playing good enough I think some of these guys took the deal because they didn’t think they could cut it in the pga tour

[@brianmartinac7834]

I don't think Chacarra was ever a PGAT Member ............... seems like he played in 5 events made 1 cut and $0 money so he may have played those events as an amateur.. So does the PGAT punish players who were never members of the PGAT? As far as being lied too, Norman problaby said, hey we will get points and you will get to play in the majors ............ either way even Chacarra himself said that he has made enough money on LIV that his family is set. So quit whining! You made your choice, live with it, now that LIV dropped you because you didn't play well enough get on with your career whereever that may be. Probably the international series or some mini tours.

[@rockrugbyref]

He just has no status. So he would have to play up his rankings in mini tours or Monday qualify for tournaments to get in.

[@brianmartinac7834]

@@rockrugbyref Exactly and he had no status with the PGAT when he started with LIV ................ so I don't understand what the consequences were? He's made a reported $30,000,000 when he had no status on the PGAT ............. sounds to me like he came out ahead and is just now bitter because he wasn't good enough in 2024 to avoid being relegated. Obviously he did something to make Sergio upset as most of the teams resigned their players that got relegated. Which kind of upset me to be honest, if you are going to build up this whole relegation thing all year then by god when people get relegated they should be ............. relegated. Including Bubba Watson!

[@brianmartinac7834]

@@rockrugbyref If the consequences of playing on LIV is I have $30,000,000 by the time I am 24 and am still young enough to pursue what I would have had to pursue in the first place ......... qualifying for the PGAT. Those consequences don't sound horrible LOL

[@hangglidingmontana6134]

Screw the pga tour, the old guard, and this boring golf channel monopoly destroying the game. Losers.

[@br88dy]

Well said by Eamon

[@chuckycheese84]

Lynch is proof that being a LIV hater also has it's own negative consequences.

[@forrestunderwood3174]

I wish I was playing golf in the Bermuda Triangle.

[@fakeyououtdotcom2409]

It's never worth the 30 pieces of silver.

[@kowanmcgarry]

What happened to Eugenio.

[@sbMaine1881]

Eamon is the best

[@AnthonyTrujillo-d2s]

The promise Norman made was (filings made public during law suit) not wgr points, it was; that because they were independent contractors, legally they could compete on both tours. Read text messages between Sergio and Norman.

[@kennethmckinney2532]

These people don't want facts

[@MoMoMyPup10]

Yet, so far 2 of the players said they were promised OGWR points. LIV was desperate to attract as many high quality, or up and coming players, as they could, so they'd promise them the moon if they could. And after the first big names left, it was quite obvious to everyone that followed them that they would not be able to play either Tour anymore.

[@Avidgolfer1347]

Eamonn Lynch Liv hater Patrick Cantlay hater what a tool .Norman would have tried to get ranking points but owgr corrupt .Golf old boys club

[@hikerdog8562]

Awww you sound triggered. Need a pacifier?😉

[@zaldyox]

Lynch sounds like a fun guy to have around... 👉🤡 Note, the LIV guy whining wouldn't even qualify for the majors based on his performance.

[@DaringDan]

You mean LIV who designed their tour around rules that didn't conform to pre-existing OWGR rules didn't get any? I mean, all they had to do was have their attorneys look at all this but this is classic hubris following hubris. I hope LIV sticks around as an also ran for a decade.

[@industrialpalletworx3548]

@@DaringDan the Saudis will get sick of the money pit with no return on investment after while

[@666shredordie]

Well that's what happens when you trust the Trump/Saudi golf league, you get screwed.

[@seanmawson6286]

Don't believe everything you listened to these guys leak bulshit out of their mouths absolute wankers😅😅😅

[@djmohab2]

Which is it, you PGA Tour simps? You hated LIV Golf for being a closed ecosystem, and here we have a guy effectively "losing his card" and you are still whining about it.

[@industrialpalletworx3548]

@djmohab2 no. Just pointing out he was lied too and coerced in bad faith

[@MoMoMyPup10]

Except that with LIV, unlike the PGA Tour, there is no way to earn your 'card' back. That sounds pretty closed to me. Every pro tour has a qualifying process (even Korn Ferry) where you have to earn your way onto that tour -- not the offering of a contract with a signing bonus that is solely based on the preference of a few LIV honchos. Their only survival chance is to pluck as many top players off of other tours by offering them all of the money up front on a signing bonus, and lying to them about benefits. That is one ugly way to run a 'tour'.

[@industrialpalletworx3548]

@@MoMoMyPup10 100% accurate. Look at LIVs lineup. I counted 18 players that are has beens or are on the back end of their career and faced a tough hill to climb on the PGA Tour. Then you have 5-10 depending on who you include that were superstars on the PGA Tour. The rest of their lineup is a who is who at your local convenience store. I've followed golf for over 40 years and couldn't pick them out of a lineup if I had to. I don't think you will see any real big names rolling on over to LIV any time soon now any way. I think it's pretty much settled and the dust will fall where it falls. The Ryder cup will be interesting to see how the LIV guys make their way over.

[@kennethmckinney2532]

Screw off Lynch. Did you talk to any other former LIV players that couldn't stay in the league? Didn't think so

[@industrialpalletworx3548]

@@kennethmckinney2532 🤣🤣🤣