Early Christianity in Ancient China (Awesome Presentation!)

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Study of Antiquity and the Middle Ages

Study of Antiquity and the Middle Ages

4 жыл бұрын

Many people don’t know that the first preaching of Christianity in China pre-dated the Jesuits by more than nine centuries. We’ll take a second cursory look at the Jesuits as part of a bigger story that includes Christianity in China during the Tang and Yuan dynasties. We’ll see that prior to the arrival of Matteo Ricci, there were two other lesser known attempts to grow Christianity in China.
In this episode the voice of CHP guides us through the history of early Christianity in ancient China, its triumphs, downfalls, struggles and achievements. We many who embrace it and those who rejected and sought to crush it. From acceptance to resistance this is the story of one of the greatest religions in history in one of the greatest nations in history!
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@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 4 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on this awesome episode by the China History Podcast? Do you like the video footage that I have been including? Check out CHP at the links above in the video description! To help us create more content, consider supporting us on Patreon! www.patreon.com/The_Study_of_Antiquity_and_the_Middle_Ages
@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 4 жыл бұрын
Paddy Cronin I am not the speaker and yes the speaker is awesome ;)
@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 4 жыл бұрын
Paddy Cronin and now your stupid comments are deleted ;)
@zoetropo1
@zoetropo1 4 жыл бұрын
Buddha wasn’t Chinese, either, and his followers were ill-treated too until Empress Wu: Buddhism, Christianity and Islam were “the three foreign religions”. Nestorian Christianity took root in Fuzhou during the Tang Dynasty, where Marco Polo found them still practising. Fuzhou was the hometown of the largest number of top Chinese scholars throughout the Ming and Qing dynasties. In fact, the leading family of Fuzhou (descendants of the ancient Marquis of Min) are still Christian. Sinologists will recall the name of one member of this family: Commissioner Lin.
@alangervasis
@alangervasis 3 жыл бұрын
@ElementHunter Man, you are in every single video about nestorian christianity spewing your fake history? What's your problem with them?
@reocurringdream
@reocurringdream 9 ай бұрын
You are mistaken in your representation. China was before Christianity itself. They believed in 1 God the same God of the Bible before those of Europe or Middle East by about 2500 years. Be careful how you erroneously represent the "Good News", lest you be an agent of darkness.
@TheThinkersBible
@TheThinkersBible Жыл бұрын
Very good and interesting summary of the history of Christianity in China. The details and ancestry of the rabbans were some I’d not heard before. Thanks!
@AAZAZELHAZEL
@AAZAZELHAZEL 2 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace to this excellent history seeker, thank you so much for sharing with us while you were here! Insahallah he is having great conversations with these past peoples in the hereafter.
@davemacnicol8404
@davemacnicol8404 Жыл бұрын
Wait what!?
@davemacnicol8404
@davemacnicol8404 Жыл бұрын
What how who? Laszlo?
@christellen3077
@christellen3077 2 жыл бұрын
WOndefully put together and easily understandable. Easy to follow and the narration is very dynamic too. Thanks Be blessed in Jesus name !
@olinayoung6287
@olinayoung6287 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, loved listening to this 🍃🌟!! His episode on Silk Road was fascinating too. I love Chinese history..
@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын
Yesssss he is so good! If all goes as planned he will be a guest on the show eventually!
@glens6757
@glens6757 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful narrative summary plus memorable irreverent narration - history brought back to life accordingly! Thank you..
@frenzywilliam3366
@frenzywilliam3366 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome channel and great map =)
@tessw9744
@tessw9744 Ай бұрын
God in Ancient China, is a great one ro watch here on KZbin.
@uwayzorsamuel385
@uwayzorsamuel385 3 жыл бұрын
Great work!
@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@richardwendling4030
@richardwendling4030 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't watch this video, but MAN THE COMMENTS SECTION is OFF THE HOOK! I would love to have a convention with everyone in there and DEBATE for days!
@aidanharrison3888
@aidanharrison3888 4 жыл бұрын
For the Chinese Buddhism was just as foreign as Christianity . It came from a far away place
@ronaldfranke9225
@ronaldfranke9225 4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if the modern CCP were to recognize this fact. As it is now, Xi thought gives an honored position to Chinese "traditional" religions including Buddhism, but persecutes Christianity and Islam.
@robthevampireslayer3211
@robthevampireslayer3211 2 жыл бұрын
@Goosa Poosa Plus the Uighurs are financed by the CIA to cause trouble in China.
@andreluismarin8095
@andreluismarin8095 4 жыл бұрын
Yay!
@margaretclarke3643
@margaretclarke3643 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, and eye opening, thank you. Never thought the fierce Mongols would have had anything to do with Christianity.
@fortunatomartino9797
@fortunatomartino9797 Жыл бұрын
Jesus philosophy is to the warrior an over coming of himself It's a severe discipline
@margaretclarke3643
@margaretclarke3643 Жыл бұрын
@@fortunatomartino9797 That is a noble ambition, and I believe is what Christians (disciples of Jesus), are meant to do; overcome the self (the human nature) in order to have the nature of God. That is what it means 'To be born again'. John 3:3 Jesus speaking "I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, that unless a person is BORN again (anew, from above), he cannot ever see (know, be acquainted with, and experience) the kingdom of God." Verse 5; "What is born of (from) the flesh is flesh [of the physical is physical]; and what is born of the Spirit is spirit."
@jonnybriggs7531
@jonnybriggs7531 4 жыл бұрын
"Guaranteed to break the ice at parties" lol. Python reference?
@LadyAsia93
@LadyAsia93 4 жыл бұрын
Watch "God in ancient China"
@LadyAsia93
@LadyAsia93 4 жыл бұрын
@ElementHunter its is. Check it out
@richardwendling4030
@richardwendling4030 4 жыл бұрын
@ElementHunter It was truly enjoyable. THe translator woman was so cute and uplifting. Was a sermon though. I have found scholarly evidence on topic shared not as amusingly or entertainingly. Boring Aussie guy blathering, or dynamic Asian Duo preaching the same content! If you are not Christian you will still enjoy it for the comedy value(intended)!
@allencolvin4320
@allencolvin4320 2 жыл бұрын
I believe in a Jesus who came for all people 🙏. I am fascinated by all of it. I watched that presentation last night!
@RichMitch
@RichMitch 4 жыл бұрын
Who has disliked this, what is this hooliganism?!
@sirnilsolav6646
@sirnilsolav6646 4 жыл бұрын
Probably Winnie The Pooh
@RichMitch
@RichMitch 4 жыл бұрын
@@sirnilsolav6646 unlikely. He's not real
@sirnilsolav6646
@sirnilsolav6646 4 жыл бұрын
@@RichMitch Of course he is! He is leading China www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855
@RichMitch
@RichMitch 4 жыл бұрын
@@sirnilsolav6646 bawh gawd!
@richardwendling4030
@richardwendling4030 4 жыл бұрын
@@sirnilsolav6646 Buddhist Bear Bastage! LOL!
@azzg5048
@azzg5048 Жыл бұрын
Lord Jesus Christ - my righteous '義'- the Lamb of God sacrificed for me!
@TheLionFarm
@TheLionFarm 2 жыл бұрын
3:10 interesting map
@AntiQris
@AntiQris Жыл бұрын
There is a parallel to catch here involving “ing-land” and “babalonia” I mean “Bavaria”
@bass9351
@bass9351 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Yes my ppl the Assyrians evangelized the whole east with genuine love for their converts and most importantly Jesus Christ. Western rome infiltrated the Assyrian church of the east because of its dominance in the leader of all the apostolic churches for 800 years evangelizing the world while Western Rome was clearly doing this because the Persians were their enemy while the blood of the Assyrian church martyrs and saints were shed for the church of Jesus Christ while rome just philosophy away acting self righteous like the Pharisees. We walk the walk. The west go 1000 yrs later under the guise of evangelism and conquer with the papa getting hand picked from the emperor to do the devils work. The real Christianity through the APOSTLES the church still follows 2day. But the western and Byzantine falsely accuse the Assyrian church of heresy which was a lie from their father devil to further destruct the church which ended up splitting in factions till 2day
@eclipseeventsigns
@eclipseeventsigns Жыл бұрын
"CE"? Using that system of dating really diminishes taking what you say seriously.
@hmj1116
@hmj1116 Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed it was the Christian missionaries which brought Christianity to China I remember going to a small church at my village when I was 11 years old in the forties then I had to go to San Francisco to be with my father who was an American citizen so I was an American's son then I boarded a ship to be with my dad.
@bradbarnes1839
@bradbarnes1839 Жыл бұрын
June 18, 1942 who was born?
@goon143
@goon143 4 жыл бұрын
Heavy guano
@richardwendling4030
@richardwendling4030 4 жыл бұрын
If you only knew what was coming 7 months ago! Don't trust the Bats! LOL! Like Fauci, Gates, Birx, etc......
@assyriannahrin
@assyriannahrin Жыл бұрын
This is my church,the church of east ( Assyrian church of east today) FALSELY called Nestorian by the Roman Catholic Church and the orthodox church ‼️‼️‼️‼️
@MattM-zd2xn
@MattM-zd2xn 11 күн бұрын
Yes! Well established fact. Surprising he didn't get that right.
@ishwarlxm6333
@ishwarlxm6333 Ай бұрын
What if they are the direct ancestors of the tower of Babel
@thecrimsondragon9744
@thecrimsondragon9744 Жыл бұрын
His voice sounds like he's perpetually annoyed... 😂😂
@thistledownz.2982
@thistledownz.2982 4 ай бұрын
Where did the very early Chinese come from? They didn't show up out of the ground in China, they took have a history.
@firstamendment2887
@firstamendment2887 3 жыл бұрын
The Chinese believed in SHANG DI, long before Satan created those other religions. I pray for my brothers and sisters in China. That they look at their own Chinese characters, for they have been writing God's story in their alphabet, all along.
@marierejoiceinjesus3846
@marierejoiceinjesus3846 3 жыл бұрын
Cantonese alphabet? Sorry if thats an ignorant question, I am trying to learn.
@dmts8098
@dmts8098 2 жыл бұрын
Book of Job is one of the oldest Old Testament Books.
@stjohnthebaptist3
@stjohnthebaptist3 Жыл бұрын
That's because we are all descended from Noe and his family and we still retained some of our knowledge of who the true God was, even through our many superstitions.
@CraigStCyrPlus
@CraigStCyrPlus 2 ай бұрын
"Satan created those other religions." -Sorry, what was that?
@ahmengtan6139
@ahmengtan6139 23 күн бұрын
Shang di 昊天上帝, is related to taoism, not christian, the Chinese name for christian god is 天主、天父.
@iwatchseries
@iwatchseries 4 жыл бұрын
First
@kaarlimakela3413
@kaarlimakela3413 3 жыл бұрын
Tradition, politics and a whim ... the spread of religions ... or not.
@willielee5253
@willielee5253 2 жыл бұрын
@Genesis 12:3 = Matthew 25:31-46 Abraham's Inheritance Jesus the Christ goats sheep Matthew 6:20,21. (20. But lay up for yourselves treasures in Heaven....(21. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. God bless us on our journey!!!
@mrafaeljidi
@mrafaeljidi 3 жыл бұрын
Buddha was not chinese either, so what are you talking about?
@LostSatelitBroadcast
@LostSatelitBroadcast 3 жыл бұрын
Spain?! Spain it´s a country in nowadays in Iberic peninsula. In roman times to most of this peninsula the romans call it hispania. You must be more accurate.
@JustinDOehlke
@JustinDOehlke Жыл бұрын
Spain = España = Hispania Different forms in different languages: same place.
@allandavis7149
@allandavis7149 2 жыл бұрын
The Syriacs were not/not Nestorians.
@lukasmakarios4998
@lukasmakarios4998 4 жыл бұрын
Enough with the self-accolades already. Don't say "Excellent Presentation" in the title of every show.
@myusername6595
@myusername6595 4 жыл бұрын
What a weird graphic around 4 minutes in that makes it look like Christianity was the majority religion in Central Asia leading up to the mongol era and then the Mongols took over the Christians or something. Weird interpretation.
@zoetropo1
@zoetropo1 4 жыл бұрын
Joey Burt: we don’t have any census figures on that question, but there were christians among the prominent mongols: one of Genghis’s rivals, and several of his daughters-in-law.
@greatwolf5372
@greatwolf5372 4 жыл бұрын
Manh Mongol and Turkic tribes were actually Christians like Keraites and Naimans. Probably the greatest Mongol/Turkic Christian was Rabban Bar Sauma whole lived in the 13th centiry. He was born in Beijing but travelled all across Eurasia reaching as far as France and met the Pope and kings of England, France and Byzantium.
@richardwendling4030
@richardwendling4030 4 жыл бұрын
@@zoetropo1 Right! Thanks I was going to say something!
@richardwendling4030
@richardwendling4030 4 жыл бұрын
@@greatwolf5372 Thanks Wolf good point!
@ajmalahmad2623
@ajmalahmad2623 4 жыл бұрын
why God was unknown about India and China before Jesus.why there were no Jews no Christianity . before Jesus
@Geralt_zRivii
@Geralt_zRivii 4 жыл бұрын
Why do you think God was unknown about China and India? I think you should read Hindus holy book called Gita. Introductory information about God is in it which was written 5 or 6000 years ago.
@greatwolf5372
@greatwolf5372 4 жыл бұрын
@@Geralt_zRivii 1500-1000 BC probably but still very old.
@richardwendling4030
@richardwendling4030 4 жыл бұрын
@ElementHunter Or Massachusetts compared to Kentucky even!
@cherrypie37
@cherrypie37 3 жыл бұрын
Who says there were not Jews? There are many Asian Jews coming back to the land.
@willow9530
@willow9530 4 жыл бұрын
Shang Di was the original God and will one day be the only God....... Yahweh
@willow9530
@willow9530 4 жыл бұрын
The original God of China was Shang Di...... They have records back even as far as the Exodus. I have studied this greatly.
@richardwendling4030
@richardwendling4030 4 жыл бұрын
@ElementHunter please recommend a book(s) to pick up! I would love to read them.
@lcmiracle
@lcmiracle 4 жыл бұрын
Yahweh the Canaanite wind diety. Got it.
@dmts8098
@dmts8098 2 жыл бұрын
Book of Job
@user-pl8cv6xh5g
@user-pl8cv6xh5g Жыл бұрын
💀 And where is he now while YHWH is still worshiped as the one true God throughout the world? And is the One True God btw.
@kevtherev8194
@kevtherev8194 4 жыл бұрын
This could have been a good video, but instead uses Silly Voice style
@phanovem6817
@phanovem6817 3 жыл бұрын
What prove when jesus birth and died ?jesus birth and died is in the middle of han dynasty. People that said the sky is dark and bla bla,why in history of Han dynasty did not said anything about jesus?
@ajmalahmad2623
@ajmalahmad2623 4 жыл бұрын
Christianity and Jews was only a person property .he was JACOB. THE HISTORY OF Jews and Christianity were NEAR ABOUT JERUSALEM and Jacobs family .NOT INDIAN NOT CHINA. SO God was know only Jerusalem area and Jacobs family. ha ha ha ha ha
@alangervasis
@alangervasis 3 жыл бұрын
@ElementHunter But the bible mentions many countries in europe, africa, asia(including india). Also you cannot just make conclusions on jesus or any others based on your own assumptions.
@phanovem6817
@phanovem6817 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i think this is just political and just legend of a good man, there is so many history of the good people in the world.
@shayalynn
@shayalynn 2 ай бұрын
Abraham was to be the father of MANY nations.
@kloudnine2832
@kloudnine2832 4 жыл бұрын
Thats cuz Salvation is for the Real Jew, they had to go and preach to the lost sheep of Israel... the true Hebrews!!! The 10 lost tribes of Yahawasha!!!!! So called Christianity has been jacked up by the Greeks and Romans!!! A burning cross who else besides cesar at that time Constantinople saw or did used a burning cross??? In todays world...
@zoetropo1
@zoetropo1 4 жыл бұрын
Pablo Vales: is Jason Alexander a Christian?
@shiningknight1375
@shiningknight1375 4 жыл бұрын
Pablo Vales Are 'lynnard skynard' and 'hotel California' Christian bands?
@richardwendling4030
@richardwendling4030 4 жыл бұрын
Still have that holy fire in the tomb...What's that about?
@richardwendling4030
@richardwendling4030 4 жыл бұрын
@@shiningknight1375 HAHAHA! Yes if you are a LUciferian! LOL! TV EVANGELIST VARIETY doubly, so!
@alangervasis
@alangervasis 3 жыл бұрын
Typical black hebrew cultist 🤣
@ahmengtan6139
@ahmengtan6139 23 күн бұрын
No No No, chinese traditional religion is Taoism, followed by Buddhist, the rituals of public or empire follows the taoism tradition.
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