Everything I COULDN'T say on TV. Reacting to my outrageous debate.

[@ed.winters]

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[@v.a.n.e.]

hahaha, I knew you were upset over your debate loss with this gentleman. however, you have made no changes; the show has already aired, and a large number of people who saw it did not see your video response.

[@linauna]

I really want to write you the arguments the astrologer I consulted, gave me about why we as humans, should eat meat, she needs to be on a debate! 😅😝

[@linauna]

Is the book is going to be available in spanish soon?

[@ExcellentSunset]

I would have said “Martin, do you actually think that’s true and not an absolutely ridiculous statement that you’re making for some particular reason of trying to sway people to just continue eating meat? Do you really think that animals are treated better when humans are not being bred for slaughter? Are we forcibly impregnating human women? Are we keeping humans in pens of their own feces waiting to be killed so we can then eat them? Are you absolutely deranged?” Now… I may not have said that on television. But maybe I would have!

[@seanmoynihan7471]

Vegan playing the victim,surprise, surprise, got your ass whipped by a big thick farmer,sour grapes i would say,.Interestly you never mention the 160 million in forced agricultural labour (slavery they should be in school).the syrian refugees picking nuts for IOU'S (think about your vegan roast)the morracan migrants picking soft fruit in Spain, the gang master take their passports ,some of the women are raped others forced into prostitution, the African migrants in Italy picking citrus and tomatoes controlled by the Mafia they take their passports again no rights.Even in England they caught ROMANIAN children picking spring onions inclose to ZERO temperatures no food or eater, they were as young as 7,yes your diet is ethical

[@FakYuhGoogel]

I really hate these 10 minute tv shows that discuss big topics in way too short of a time. Especially when you barely have time to debunk all the lies defending the status quo. I want a 2 hour conversation on tv including Ed, that farmers union goofball president, then add a couple of experts that can confirm or deny various claims.

[@gallectee6032]

This won't happen on TV because of ratings. They need to move things along so people don't switch channels.

[@HiddenStr3ngth]

That's the problem, one can shoot out 100 lies in 2 minutes but it's harder and it takes a lot more time to dispel them. Dishonest, callous and delusional people have the advantage in that arena. Though it also occurs in longer debates.

[@jessicaj8564]

@Ryan Robinett you’re a vegetarian? You do know the dairy industry is arguably far more cruel than the meat industry?

[@heyo5493]

@Ryan Robinett respect

[@jibjubby]

​@Ryan Robinett Fair play man, It's awesome you're feeding your dog without having to put other animals through hell. Hopefully I can do something like this in the future. Of course you will get people calling you out when you say you're a vegetarian and not a Vegan though. You sound pretty Vegan to me. Vegan is a moral stance which you seem to be adhering to excellently. Obviously you can call yourself what you want, but if you imply that you're not a Vegan you're always gonna have people coming after you lol.

[@Wearephuct-O]

It must be really frustrating having to cram a broad, extremely important topic into an very limited time frame. You did an excellent job.

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

Agree

[@WaddyMuters]

You can see the marketing team going into overdrive for this interview. The guys accent, clothes and even the backdrop are on point. They are basically try selling this guy as a tolkienesque hobbit that’s just woken up from under an oak tree taking a nap while watching his sheep only to be harassed by the ungrateful youths. That’s what they try to sell a romanticized fairytale. Who cares if it’s all lies, the people want to be lied to. Because the reality of the meat industry is so unbelievably horrible, it can’t be defended with honesty.

[@GlossRabban]

He actually looks like someone who smoked too much Pipe-weed ;)

[@sarahkybett933]

Such a brilliant comment, I loved it !

[@goranbreskic4304]

Haha! What a description! 👍

[@WaddyMuters]

@@goranbreskic4304 Thanks. I just hate how dishonest this all is. It’s so transparent what’s going on here. This was just a nice story for the people who don’t want to be upset by the truth. It’s amazing how easy it is, for PR and marketing agencies, to lie to people that want to be lied to. You‘d think most people would care more the truth. It boarders being a parody actually.

[@sia1036]

💯 never seen more truth in a comment, man 💚🌱

[@NeneChan203]

Why do they never want to show what goes on INSIDE the walls of their humane and dreamy slaughterhouses and farms???? Why don't they have walls of glass so that everyone can see???? Why is filming inside not allowed???? I think we all know the reason. Ed, your elegance and knowledge is out of this world, you're changing the world. Thank you for everything you do.

[@GG-vq6ro]

Also why do so many slaughterhouse workers suffer from PTSD? Doesn't sound like a very humane environment at all.

[@navadel1]

I was having a debate with someone online once. It went on and on - he had a response for everything. He then finally claimed the farm he worked on wasn't like that. I said to post a photo if that was the case. His response was that he wouldn't, but only because he didn't want his farm identified. I pointed out that would be impossible - just send a photo of the animals, if they had such a great existence. Never heard another word from him. This was a person who'd debated (illogically) until he was blue in the face, but when given the opportunity to 'prove' how great the standards were on his farm, went awol.

[@NeneChan203]

@@navadel1 very typical haha. I have received many comments like that; furious, angry people just writing essays about how most of the cattle grows in these idilliac pastures, how they are painlessly killed with one shotgun bullet in their brain so that they feel nothing, and how the ag industry is actually saving the environment and how all the crops are grown for vegans and veganism is destroying the eco system. Absolute bonkers.

[@NeneChan203]

@@GG-vq6ro yeah, and lots of them develop very aggressive and sadistic behaviors. There's just so many horrible problems with the animal industry, I can't believe I used to consume their products. So glad I went vegan, best choice of my life.

[@jakepilcher8500]

I wish something like this had been said to me before I was vegan whenever I went to the "not all slaughterhouses" argument. Okay then, no worries, all of the footage available from slaughterhouses is conveniently from the bad ones. Link me to the footage of the nice ones. Link me to the footage of the humane ones. What are the odds that investigators are getting so "lucky" to capture horrific and upsetting footage. Or if they're not releasing everything they capture then surely the industry should set the record straight by doing it themselves.

[@zoeemmerson6183]

Makes me mad when the assumption is that a vegan diet has to be 100% balanced all the time. Do we really believe that every omnivore is eating a perfectly balanced diet and never needs any advice?? If so why are there campaigns like 5-a-day and an nhs website telling folk how to cut down on sugar?!! 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@lisakristin1810]

It’s so infuriating how the host was so nonchalant about the farmers blatant lie. Ed: This is the method used for killing animals Host: How horrific! Farmer: Yes, that would be horrific but that’s not what happens. Host: Phew! I’m relieved now Ed: You’re lying though. Farmer: I would never lie. I disagree with you demonizing farmers and calling our humane harvesting methods horrific! It’s like the host doesn’t even remember what happened 30 seconds ago.

[@stoicsveganage]

A good host should remain impartial. Their job is to to allow the subject matter to take precedence and leave any biases out of it.

[@fahrenheigh]

@@stoicsveganage Why should a good host allow people to tell blatant lies on TV?

[@PeiPeisMom]

I can't imagine what I would've said--I'm not good at reacting on my feet when I'm feeling emotional about the topic and you did a whole lot better in the moment than I would have. There was just so much garbage in what he said it was overwhelming

[@rondarkman.]

Animals are just food relax

[@giialiinh]

His environmental arguements are utterly nonsensical. It's 21st century and yet stating that raising cattles for food is a good thing is still a thing...

[@Edaryion]

I like the video quality improvement, the lighting is great & I love the background!

[@elizabethmahony7010]

Thank you for your well thought out argument. I don't know how you stay so calm when speaking with people with such an obvious agenda. I just want to smack them! 😒

[@GlossRabban]

Because Ed knows, we should not sink to their level :) Not that I do not understand what you mean ;)

[@tylerspain1027]

Keep up the great information! 👍

[@betadecay6503]

Fuck sake, Ed why didn't you tell me this sooner? I've been mixing dog faeces in my morning smoothies for months and only now you tell me I don't need to? Don't I feel silly!

[@medinabello19]

At least it's vegan mate. I think.

[@northerncoloradotransparen1454]

When I used to eat meat I was lacking in several minerals and vitamins causing restless legs. They wanted to cauterize my veins to fix a 20 year problem. When I changed to a whole foods plant based diet lifestyle I said goodbye to the pills and restless legs and 6 years later still going.... All the doctors, time, and money wasted when all I needed was proper nutrition?

[@arnaudmorin7413]

The main problem with these TV debates, apart from the ignorance or outright moral corruption of the opponent debaters, is that these journalists are not doing their job. Thank you Ed for your amazing activism work against the greed and baseness of corporate lobbies, as well as the wilful ignorance of the population and the incompetence of a lot of the media!

[@cloudysensation8406]

Splendid response, and very educational! I was honestly surprised that Martin would lie like that, and then double down on it.. Thank you for not letting that slip by and addressing it right then and there, there will certainly be many who watched that segment and will have put more thought into this.

[@juliewake4585]

I was expecting this repost from you Ed: I know you wouldn’t allow him to get away with it. Well done.

[@macaw6718]

hi, i just want to thank you ed for your honesty, compassion and knowledge on what i believe to be the way forward for the future of the human race. kind regards.

[@Matheus-si8vq]

Hey everyone, Ed is a legend but let's also support activists with small platforms such as The Juggling Vegan. She has just finished a 30-day challenge interviewing people about veganism. She is really good at talking to people, please just watch a video, hit the like button, anything will send these videos to more people who need to receive the vegan message. If we make small activists grow, veganism will grow.

[@Matheus-si8vq]

@Anon Anon kzbin.info/www/bejne/rabMk3WspryCmLM Here is a good one

[@Teneab]

Self promo

[@Matheus-si8vq]

@@Teneab nope

[@jonjonwp]

@Anon Anon kzbin.infovideos

[@ramiolsen]

Fantastic video, Ed, this might've been your best and most concise one to date!

[@UltramarineDad]

Unfortunately marketing is the problem in the food industry.

[@JayGreggy4973]

Expertly done, as usual. Thanks again, Ed, for all that you do.

[@boldbodyfitnessllc7120]

You are so well spoken and I hope that more and more people continue watching your content and thinking rationally about these topics. Thank you, Ed!

[@Bluegrassman12]

Ed, I’m a huge supporter of yours always have been and I love your style of activism. I’m not one to typically share my opinion to you or Joey, but I think if you call them out on the spot and are just a tad more aggressive just a tad. It will make them look like the liars they are. I truly believe that would help us shine. Bless you and don’t be afraid to interrupt who you’re debating when they are lying. They can’t argue with facts

[@valeriejhopkins9185]

I think there are a couple of points here, Joe (1) Ed was part of a short slot on a tv programme and the interviewer was very much in control of who got how much airtime within that slot. She was trying to give them a similar amount of time as well as covering her agenda of questions. That was a fair way of making sure that viewers heard both sides. (2) I think Ed makes more of an impression by his polite, measured and reasonable approach. He is assertive but not aggressive. If he had interrupted Martin or shouted him down out of turn, public response may not have been favourable to him? Just my thoughts. :)

[@Bluegrassman12]

@@valeriejhopkins9185 I agree on not shouting. Just thinking when he’s out right lying to jump in and Call him out on it (respectful). No one knows more facts than Ed. Check out Joeys last debate on TV. As I mentioned I’m not saying Ed should be like Joey, but a little bit calling them out on their BS when they’re spewing it goes along way I believe . Thank you for your reply and I don’t disagree with you

[@Ermude10]

​@@Bluegrassman12 He actually did. Ed explicitly called him out on his lies, so the guy tried to gloss over what he said by talking faster with some shit like "actually it's not all that bad" mixed in.

[@nishaprasad3985]

You are doing good job. Exposing these types of hypocrites.

[@JasonShepherd_01]

Yes, methane has a half life of around 10 years in the atmosphere, but it oxidises to become CO2 and therefore continues to contribute to GHG effect after this time.

[@reesecarr2105]

I wish they would have given you more time where you could have addressed these issues to him, I would of loved to hear his response, like always ED , GREAT JOB!! thank you for defending these helpless animals!!! KEEP EXPOSING THE TRUTH!♥♥♥♥

[@sheli4239]

Everything about "Martin" is fake including his green screen background landscape. In all the time I've gone toe to toe with an "Omnivore Human" the end result has always been an emotional outburst of either: 1.You can't tell me what to eat. 2.We're at the top of the food chain and I don't eat rabbit food. 3.Ending with "I want to".

[@Orlagh]

You're a bit sassier in this video Ed and I'm here for it 👏🌱

[@Silvercentipede]

Rightttt??!! He still does it in a way which isn't vicious or cruel and it's just perfect 👌👌 his emotional intelligence and charisma is everything 👌

[@danielleday9856]

To me, real poetry is beautifully written communication informed by truth and fact. This is regardless if it is an easy or a hard truth to accept. This is how things change. Communication in patience, love, grace, and most importantly: passion for the message. This is poetry.

[@spiral-m]

Thanks a lot. It is frankly obscene that such people with responsibility are dragging us over the abyss through their lies and deception because of selfish interests. System change!!

[@didakoko3723]

So glad you've made this video, Ed. It was so frustrating to watch! He was also given so much more time than you, I was quite annoyed to be honest

[@jdmmg4904]

Thank you again Ed!

[@JungleJoeVN]

One of the unmentioned drawbacks to animal agribusiness and one that they often use to turn the tables on you is runoff of fertilizers and other chemicals. Modern agriculture methods should be addressed, not only animal agriculture, but of course animal agriculture is far more damaging due to its vastness and extreme cruelty towards animals.

[@Metal-Possum]

I remember Joey Carbstrong making a point about well-kept animals probably have less interest in dying than poorly kept ones. A happy person or happy animal is in no hurry to die, if anything taking their life early is actually less human than killing one in a poor state.

[@youtubechannel12371]

We appreciate you Ed!

[@MrRibbett454]

Thanks for all your work.

[@WV25701MW]

“Best slaughter house,” sounds like an oxymoron to me.

[@Builtforthewild]

Ed needs his own tv program where he sits down and debates celebrity’s about veganism

[@VeganWellnessTribe]

You’re looking great Ed! Must be all those plants 🌱

[@timothys9288]

President of Farmers Union - "It's not true we mistreat animals" Also Farmers -"The animals are sentenced to sexual assault, eventual death and dismemberment and their corpses to be cooked and eaten." I guess his idea and my idea of mistreatment differ a tad.

If you only knew how grateful we all are for what you do. If only we could all have a bit of your dedication, bravery, patience and tolerance, the world would be such a different place.

[@ionasmith1998]

Loved this video to bits, and the cut off to One Direction was so out of pocket haha. I feel so bad for the farmer he clearly has no idea what he's talking about.

[@NickTheNRG]

I hope most of the people watching catch him changing his story. Good job Ed!

[@anettkallai]

What a great video Ed, thank you! That man was ridiculous.

[@Kunsteak]

I don’t know you personally Ed (oh how much I would love to though)… but for me, you are one of my best friends.

[@MrCDAJR]

Thank you Ed

[@justinmanning]

Thank you!

[@jayjivametschendorp607]

And the work you do for your animals at your farm is awesome😝

[@kiwifeijoa]

Your tv comments were very clear and understandable, Ed. The reporter seemed quite shaken by the bare facts you presented and appealed to the other person to please say something (I guess in order to bring herself and the viewers back to their comfort zones). What you said on tv will have had some impact Ed. Your further comments here were also spot on. Also, the hue and cry about the Amazon is of course necessary, but in líne with these arguments, if all the other countries had not already devastated their own land for meat production in the past with no consequences we wouldn't be relying on the Amazon in this way. It's not fair for countries to rant against the Amazon, and not pay them for being in the unfortunate position of being one of the last places to destroy their lands for meat. Instead, the world needs to pay the Amazon and other such areas well, to allow them to rebuild their habitat. Another great topic Ed, well done.

[@Hyacinth_Rose]

@ed.winters did you know methane has low duration but it's damaging effect is more potent than other gases. Look it up. They did an experiment.

[@AtypicalPaul]

Respect you so much Ed

[@libertadvalerio870]

All the farmer proved is that the industry is scared. And rightfully so, especially if they keep lying. You can't fool people anymore.

[@alexatwater1961]

This idea that animal agriculture and it's barren fields are more beneficial than a natural wilderness is the most bogus of all carnist claims.

[@hjwmachinehead]

That farmer is really telling a fairy tale that he has the animals best interests, because he and the industry are lying and of their marketing is depending on their secrecy!!! But thankfully the truth is coming out more and more by great vegan actist like Ed Winter , Joey Carbstrong, Chris Delforce , James Aspey etc... So the consumer will know how horrific the industry in fact is towards The animals!!!

[@Laura-xn8mi]

These people talk as if the average non-vegan human follows the perfect balanced diet of all time. It's just hilarious how they stress the importance of "NuTRiEntS" but then eat donuts for breakfast and pretend not to take the road to Taco Bell twice a week.

[@matthewwatson2977]

Brilliant work ED , you could tell the guy didn’t know what he was talking about .

[@downwithtrudeau]

Can you do a video about feeding pigs "garbage feed" which is waste food ground up packaging and all then sold as pig feed.

[@margaretbrooks6508]

I love you Ed!!!! Keep up the good work!!!!! ANY animal cruelty is totally IMMORAL!!!! Keep up the good work, Ed!!!!

[@medinabello19]

Thanks!

[@WhiteSiroi]

thank you so much ED

[@nerlind]

Thanks, Ed.

[@catmatism]

So long if I feed a human, I can eat that human?

[@KeithsUniverse]

You are a legend Ed. Martin is intellectually dishonest and without integrity

[@SvenHeyll]

You werre wonderful!, BUT I think those short, strictly timed debates might cause more harm than good, because it allows anyone willing and able to fabricate more BS than the any opponent will ever have time to refute, just because as a general rule, misinformation is emitted at a much higher rate than the complicated conterarguments and nuanced factual statements.

[@somedude172]

"it allows anyone willing and able to fabricate more BS than the any opponent will ever have time to refute" hit the nail right on the head. thats exactly what happens, every single time. its very frustrating to viewers actually interested in the topic

[@lizbethtovar4083]

As Always you were awesome!!! Yes, I understand how it feels when you are listening to such an absurd claims, you can not believe it!! well done Ed!!! Love you!!!

[@EclipseDj]

0:04 Wow does Martin Kennedy always sit in front of a green-screen? Has anyone seen this guy in the real world? I do still wonder what his real background looked like, after hearing a large vehicle beeping 🤔

[@manumaster1990]

nice video!

[@Yomanchamcru]

The NFU guy espousing the virtues of the 'managed' landscape in the image behind him when it's utterly unnatural and yet another monocultured agridesert... Then wanging on about the dangers of fire when full forest is literally the climax vegetation for cool temperate climates and the vast majority of land in the UK. As per, it takes no time to spit lies and ages to debunk them; you did well to keep your cool, Ed.

[@z6t6z6d]

Ed, I love you for all your effort and hard work you do for a better world! Elucidation is so very important. Industry must be stopped misleading people!

[@christianneuhaus8195]

Guys what are we doing here? We should be out there burning trees to save the climate.

[@northerncoloradotransparen1454]

And the Animals eat way more food than humans

[@bhavikasicka7871]

Unnecessarily murdering someone is not in their benefit or welfare, Martin. smh 🙄

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

Even if it was true that we give the animals better lives than we give humans, I think that's more a condemnation of how we treat other people than a praise of animal treatment

[@junglejarred6366]

I have come to hold such a low regard for human animals that in almost every case my life goal is to be nothing like them

[@Entyce914]

Just skip to 17:01-17:22. Although Ed is spot on in this whole video as he always is, everything you need to hear is in this time frame bracket. End of story.

[@richardshelton7020]

The self-sufficiency topic is one where I think vegans can help farmers repurpose their land. It would be great to see vegan support for this, we are on your side farmers, let’s make the UK self sufficient for fruit and veg, stop importing all the animal feed, and re wild the spare land, as we’ll only need a third of it anyway. It’s a win win. I would like to see more collaboration, Ed could lead this, and build alliances that would get noticed by the headline hunters. Peace and plants.

[@aosadoifbaiosdfna]

I like Ed because he explains well and he is right.

[@Bangilnel]

17:00 I love that argument xD

[@pussyhammer6969]

So silly with idyllic fields on a green screen behind him while he's in his office.

[@Fruit_bee]

Im from Ukraine. and this farmers president has no right to use me as an excuse to continue to kill and abuse animals. Thank you Ed for a great and sane video , Love

[@v.a.n.e.]

how does he use you as an excuse?

[@thewildwoodlandgarden.420]

@@v.a.n.e. he's talking about the way people treat others, saying that animals for food are being treated better than humans, giving the current situation in Ukraine as an example. It's a distraction.

[@v.a.n.e.]

it is perfectly clear to me what he was saying. what I don't get is why she thinks she was used as a justification. @@thewildwoodlandgarden.420

[@thewildwoodlandgarden.420]

@@v.a.n.e. In a round about way, it kinda is. I think he's just using distractions, the biggest one being about the highest standards of welfare in the world-that certainly doesn't equate to being cruelty free, free from suffering or violence. It doesn't take much to having higher standards than China, the middle east, the US and some countries in eastern europe. So I think the talk about the animals for food being treated better tha some humans are being treated is a distraction, but humans will use any distractions to justify what they do or make themselves feel better about it, so we get, 'ahh, they're being treated better than my boss treats me, and farm animals don't have to work, and they do 't have to suffer like me and other humans, and look at thosehumans in the war zones' etc.

[@v.a.n.e.]

ok, I got it. you don't want to talk about what Fruit Bee was trying to say, your focus is on what he wanted to say, and it seems more interesting to you. how would you personally assess the situation in Ukraine? have you thought about it? @@thewildwoodlandgarden.420

[@TempehLiberation]

"We do everything possible for the animals welfare" - well, except for the fact that you kill them. That's probably not in their welfare Martin....

[@dreadpirateroberts1358]

That actually does serve a role in their welfare.

[@dragoned7685]

@@dreadpirateroberts1358 How?

[@Christoph-Dietz]

A Freudian slip, he meant 'farewell'

[@lightoftruth8672]

Look up how many animals and lifeforms are killed to produce 5 kgs of wheat. Where do you draw the line on when or what is OK to kill and not kill. One cow living a wonderful life on a pasture can provide food for many souls. The death surrounding large scale agricultural crops is staggering, but no one cares about that.

[@dragoned7685]

@@lightoftruth8672 You forget that farmed animals need to eat too as they grow large enough to be slaughtered. It takes many kilograms of plant matter to produce 1 kilogram of flesh. Eating animals kills more animals through plant agriculture than eating plants does.

[@normanbayona4636]

I became Vegan the day I watched the Game changers, precisely because I was made aware of the lies the meat and dairy industry have fed us for decades - I gain no health benefit from consuming meat. Then I started to understand better the ecological impact of animal farming. And more recently, in part thanks to your debates, the moral imperative we have. Hearing this guy rapid fire lies through his teeth was frustrating, and I'm glad you've had practice debating people who spout nonsense.

[@rainedyani8505]

Thank you for caring, Norman. ❤️🙏✌️

[@sheli4239]

@Il Cavalluccio Marino B12 is a bacteria that is naturally found in soil, but with commercial farming and the heavy, routine use of pesticides and others of the sort, any and all b12 in the soil is killed. Cows and other grass-feeding animals that are bred to be killed can get b12 from grazing since it is found in the soil they are ingesting. (But as mentioned above, heavy pesticides kill the b12 in soil.) In farming, the majority of animals are fed soy or corn food pellets in dark, crowded, enclosed spaces with cement floors and no grass to be found. We used to get it the same way as we walked around barefoot picking up fruits and veggies from the ground, absorbing it through our skin and not washing what we ate so we could get it that way as well. The B-12 myth has been busted . Stop thinking that animals products are the only source.

[@isabellezablocki7447]

@Il Cavalluccio Marino I think everyone knows by now that you need to supplement with B12 when you are vegan. Yet not many people know you need to supplement with B12 whatever your diet is after the age of 50.

[@DublinDapper]

The vegan propaganda worked on you so

[@sheli4239]

@@DublinDapper If it's propaganda that has erred on the side of kindness and compassion.......I'll take that all day every day, but that's not how it works now,....is it?

[@betadecay6503]

Him admitting that it is horrific needs to be clipped and used on repeat with graphics showing his credentials over footage from UK farms and slaughterhouses.

[@AnimalAgricultureExposed]

top idea

[@6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82]

and sadly, no one will care LOL

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

@@6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82 Ed made videos with animal abuse clips. You can made those videos too. Stop being so negative and fatalistic. Your name has Jesus in it, but Jesus was a positive person.

[@iananderson5561]

You're the bossman Ed. You're one of the best and most elegant debaters in the world. You're extremely knowledgeable and armed with facts/evidence. Not only that, you're amazing at sharing that knowledge and educating others. Keep up the amazing work buddy, and keep speaking up for animals!

[@charliem9188]

Humans are animals too don't forget. And a lot of animal brains on here unfortunately do not understand how they are duped by this crazy NWO push toward veganism. I used to be a hardcore "vegetarian" myself. It's almost impossible to avoid meat, and for a good reason. If you have to take artificial supplements for B12 and D3 for example that should tell you right there you are not eating your natural diet. The animals do not need to suffer needlessly, and nobody is saying that. If you were being chased by a theoretical raptor who just wanted to eat you to survive, that might change your perspective a bit as to the harsh nature of reality that as a being of gross physical matter you are always having to consume something else to survive. Do you think plants like to be eaten too? No they don't, that's why they lace themselves with tannins and other toxins so the animals don't destroy them. You are buying right into NWO agenda with all the talk of climate control and the poor animals. What about the humans animals, think of those too.

[@pamwalmsley1865]

Does this guy actually believe what he is saying,? The points he is making are absolutely ridiculous...keep up the good work Ed!

[@gisellen9638]

he's only interested in the money he gets from it

[@lucasbleyle5015]

I've heard a lot of the same arguments out of phd animal scientists at Purdue University. It's really scary how antiscience they get as top scientists

[@corgimeatlover9970]

I don't think he does at heart. There are marketing people on staff that advised him to make those talking points on television based on how it will influence consumers.

[@evecowley5713]

He is straight up lying about the practices but people like that genuinely do believe that what they are doing is right. I am a vet student so have to work with a lot of farmers and they do genuinely think they give the animals a good life and that we simply need meat. One farmer even told me they are doing the animals a favour because by slaughtering them when they are young, they prevent them having to deteriorate and suffer when they get ill from old age. This is of course complete rubbish because they literally kill the animals before puberty age when they would still have many happy years before them. What I'm trying to say is, these people in the industry have been brought up with that mindset and are very unlikely to change. We have to target the public and aim to reduce consumer demand for meat and animal products I think. Very sad being forced to work in that environment as a vet student but one day I hope to be a sanctuary vet and use my skills for the good of animals💖💖

[@TheAleatoriorandom]

It's surprising how much someone can lie to oneself if the truth would result in the realization that you are doing something that is wrong. Everyone wants to believe they are a good, moral person. I can imagine someone raised to be a farmer and doing it for years having a huge mental resistance to the idea that what he is doing could be wrong. Otherwise, the realization would be quite devastating. I think that is one of the main barriers of entry for veganism. People just don't want to think that they and the people they love and admire may be doing something cruel and unnecesary and have been happily doing so for years. I don't think people should beat themselves over it, just understand it and move on, preferably going on the road of becoming vegan or at least reduce consumption if they can't cut it fully. But it's just a very human reaction that we can expect to happen often.

[@that1monk]

i love you so much, brother. keep up the excellent work to cultivate compassion.

[@WhyArentYouVegan]

Thank you for speaking up for animals.

[@Ibanezyt]

Plants don't want to be eaten. They can't run away and have antinutrients as a defense mechanism. They are conscious and capable of cognitive process.

[@MercyForTheInnocent]

lets all speak up together!!! animal liberation!!!

[@NoInjusticeLastsForever]

Veganism isn't a silver bullet. But if there was ever such a thing to reduce suffering and help humans and animal well-being, going vegan is the closest to a silver bullet as we'll ever get. ❤️

[@athleticvegan9791]

agreed

[@DominionMovementDotOrg]

true. i think the base of many world problems is from the continuing mistake of herding culture which actually is capitalism itself from its inception. if this mentality of destruction, greed, and oppression could be eradicated, it would help win freedom and safety for many living beings trapped within those systems’ apparatuses, which is basically all of us, some more than others. the many ills it creates in the world could have a chance to clear up and balance could be restored

[@strider_hiryu850]

i mean, it kindof is. everything else is bonus

[@slideman1249]

It doesn’t help humans sure it helps animals but we need meat

[@magomagic8787]

@@slideman1249 why do we need it?

[@leah425]

I watched the documentary Dominion over three years ago now. We all knew that meat came from animals who were killed, but actually witnessing it and learning how so many aspects of the industry are not public knowledge and actually very hidden away, was pretty mind blowing. And until recently, one would have to dig pretty deep to find out this much out in such graphic detail. The activists risking their freedoms for potential jail time/heavy fines, to get all the footage from the last few years is admirable. I do street outreach with clips from this very documentary and I see the power it has on people, the emotion is real out there, people just need to see the truth to make a more informed decision about their lifestyle choices. When the end credits rolled, I went vegan on the spot and never looked back. The best decision I have made that aligns perfectly with my animal loving values.

[@gcoffee3231]

❤

[@leaderence3290]

NEVER STAY SILENT. As an advocate for animals, I keep putting the images of what's happening to animals on social media every day. I make informational signs and take them to busy intersections at rush hour. I use TikTok not just to post videos exposing what's happening to animals but I use the LIVE feature just about ever day to spread awareness. The more consumers are confronted with reality, the more chance they go vegan or at least start heading in this direction. I again and again and again inform people of the health benefits and the environmental benefits of going vegan too.

[@pianoman159]

That's awesome! I think we(vegans) should all do this. Some people call it being pushy but if they were in the animal's place, they wouldn't complain.

[@jibjubby]

Keep it up! ❤ I'm trying to do more like this. Right now, people see ridiculous meat industry propaganda more often than reality, and that's why they believe it. The industry has so much money, so we need to work hard!

[@FixdalOK]

Bloodlust tho...

[@pianoman159]

@@FixdalOK 😅engineering is tough, am I rite?

[@FixdalOK]

@@pianoman159 Yeah I'm an engineering student and I'm really trying to maintain a high level of bloodlust.

[@bvegannow1936]

That farmer should probably be criminally charged with fraud, deceptive marketing practices, and false advertising. Lying to trick someone into buying your product is often illegal.

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

Especially if they charge higher prices for the supposed "grass fed, free range, or no additives like hormones", etc. Even if someone is a meat eater, why would they want to be lied to, scammed, and be ok with animal abuse?

[@mrwallygator501]

The information and the science is out. Now people just have to open their eyes and their hearts and stop this madness once and for all. The meat, dairy and egg industries are struggling to come up with valid excuses for all they do. It's evident in their ever more creative and absurd lies and justifications. Also in the dirty tricks they often have to fall back on when dealing with a prepared vegan debater on live TV. Great job as always Ed.

[@oliverpanabe9183]

Thanks Ed for debunking clown after clown in our fight against animal exploitation.❤

[@marikabilska1382]

Yesss I was hoping you'd make this! He was so full of shit!

[@mrwallygator501]

It's never been so easy to go vegan. Its cheaper, it's better for the environment, better for your health, and most importantly, you stop the killing and abuse of animals. There is simpy no excuse for animal abuse. "If we could live happy and healthy lives without harming others, why wouldnt't we?"

[@slideman1249]

It’s not cheaper it depends on that but for most part not not better for your health look up earthling Ed physique reddit his so malnourished that’s why he covers up and looks anemic you don’t stop killing or the abuse since vegans are not even 1 percent of the world you guys don’t help lower the supply and demand

[@mrwallygator501]

@@slideman1249 then look up hench herbivore, joey carbstrong, conscious muscle. Also look up all the super high performance athletes that are thriving on a plant based diet. Using one malnourished vegan (And I'm not saying Ed is) is as dumb an argument as it can get, because there are meat eaters that are malnourished as well. So go and do yourself a favor, google some nutrition facts for 5 minutes and un-dumb yourself.

[@jumpander]

Only if one profits from harming others they wouldn't agree.

[@slideman1249]

@@mrwallygator501 those dudes are obviously using peds and Ed is unmalnourised and it’s just not one most vegans do end up malnourished obviously everyone can get manly outside but meat eaters are less likely also you ignored my point about supply and demand infact if you cared you would eat it so it’s not in vain

[@mrwallygator501]

@@slideman1249 That no demand thing is also such a silly thing to say. Growing up vegetarian and frequently consuming plant based products, I have seen first hand the astonomical increase in vegan friendly products and the much much much improved quality of said products. Even in Mexico, a country full of carnists, Vegan products are popping up every day. Just stop with the nonsense and go vegan mate.

[@GrepiBrunette]

I'm usually not the type of person who comments but Ed you make me do it again. You are such an important part of the vegan community and movement. Your debates are always so knowledgable, respectful and clear. Your patience is on another level. You are a gift for this world. Just wanted to let you know, you and your work is so much appreciated, keep it going! You're a very charismatic speaker and using this power for the animals and for the environment... So sooo good to see. Love your content, work and efforts. Thank you for all that you do!

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

It's a shame (but not surprising) that you had to do this follow-up video Ed, but great job in dismantling his dishonest nonsense

[@Wearephuct-O]

Agree

[@eklein89]

So glad we have Ed to expose these industries for what they are. Vegan 1.5 years (thanks to Ed!) and never going back.

[@PSVGNBBF]

💚

[@slideman1249]

Look up earthling Ed physique reddit you still think it’s healthy your prov bult like that too a lot of vegans are

[@thegratefulsteve]

Congratulations comrade

[@juliewake4585]

He’s the man isn’t he?

[@lw9553]

Give it a bit more time and you'll realise what's going on.

[@jackiec.232]

Congratulations, Ed! I've been hoping you would respond to those outrageous comments by Martin in that debate. I was shaking my head through everything he said. He's insulting our intelligence. How can he make those obviously untruthful statements and get away with it? Boggles the mind! And now I suppose people will be unknowingly repeating what he says, because it's what they wanted to hear. Thanks for the damage control and everything you do.