EastEnders: Cindy Williams vs Bobby Beale (21st September 2023)

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[@stemple11100]

Cindy has some cheek considering she literally ordered a hitman to murder Ian (something she did as a fully grown adult, not a kid)

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

Well said.

[@reddevil6585]

Yes but Ian is annoying you can’t blame her

[@sunishotra9958]

​@@reddevil6585So he deserves to have his life taken away from him because he's annoying?

[@reddevil6585]

@@sunishotra9958 it’s a soap. I don’t think the viewers minded & back in 90s Cindy was hot!

[@Fallows-rh3mi]

I was literally coming on to comment this.

[@lefez9015]

Gotta love Ian for standing up for his son. Cindy is being a hypocrite. She tried to have Ian killed. Peter could've gone his whole life without his father because of her.

[@judechannelimaginationcros8684]

But what about the online hate back in EE 2020 when you know…. Denny.

[@KaleemAkbar786]

Axe Bobby

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

@@KaleemAkbar786there’s nothing wrong with him. Axe Cindy.

[@adoringsharon]

He still killed her daughter and nearly killed his mother. She has every right to be mad.

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

@@adoringsharon he’s done the time. Everyone has moved on. Cindy had the opportunity to be there but didn’t take it.

[@abbieroseholden4174]

Cindy loved Lucy so much she left her and pretended to be dead for years 😂😂😂

[@phillipbates9587]

Really ridiculous situation, but it made her safe from people's who her dead.

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

She had no choice. Try watching the flashback episode.

[@abbieroseholden4174]

This bringing Cindy back was such pointless sorry she can't act convincing

[@Harry-fk5of]

@@abbieroseholden4174 when she said 'you tried to kill Jane with a hockey stick' made me laugh. As much as I like Cindy I don't think she's the greatest actor

[@Brogan_Balfour_Crescent]

​@@Harry-fk5ofShe was decent enough in the scenes I saw from the 90's but it could be her settling back into the role after 25 years.

[@aimeeedits17]

I can understand Cindy's anger but Bobby doesn't deserve to be treated like that. He was a child who made a terrible mistake and served his time. Everyone can see he has redeemed himself. He has become one of the most kindest people with a heart of gold. It's about time Ian grew a backbone and stood up for his son.

[@KaleemAkbar786]

Axe Bobby

[@H.K.5]

He stood up for Bobby in the vic, funny how no one wants to praise him for that because he got decked by a woman.

[@lukelewis3149]

Did we watch a different clip because I saw him standing up for Bobby

[@StillStanding-k2h]

Plus Bobby didn’t even know it was him until what about two years later? And when he finally found out that he was the one responsible (although I do think Lucy had already had a head injury beforehand. Because of Max twice, three times if you include Abi because she only did what she did because of her father’s behavior. And Denise three times in under 20 seconds! She h!t her head in the car lot office when Max pulled her down to hide, he accidentally bounced her head off the metal part of the desk the day before. Then again that night against a stone wall. Abi @tacked her and actually h!t her head against the same stone wall. Then Whitney h!t her so hard that she fell on the ground and h!t her head on the concrete floor. Then Ben @tacked and stole her cellphone and wallet and pushed her against a wall in the apartment she was selling where she h!t her head again. Then Jake accidentally back🤚🏾ed her causing her to not only h!t another wall in his apartment when she took him home and Max helped her get him inside, but also b*sted her nose open which is how her 🩸 got on Max’s shoes. Denise then be@ the living daylights out of her in her father’s bedroom and hit her head on the bedside table, wardrobe and set of drawers. That all happened that night before Bobby did the last blow to her head. That was nine blows to Lucy’s head before Bobby made it ten. That’s a lot for someone to take to the head in such a short space of time! I personally think that first one in the office had started a slow 🩸 on her 🧠 because it was really hard and she had been saying after that she had a migraine that wouldn’t go away. And each impact after that just made it worse. Because a small wooden jewelry box wouldn’t have caused the dam-age it did especially from a young child! They all had a hand in what happened to her with Bobby the one taking the fall because everyone else said nothing! But people seem to forget about all the people who @tacked Lucy that night whether accidental or deliberately and all of them landed head blows!) When Bobby found out the truth he wanted to hand himself in and all the adults stopped him. Instead he got sent to boarding school to keep him quiet. He’s always been sorry for what happened to Lucy but he’s not solely at fault all the others are that did what they did to her that night, something that Bobby, Ian and Peter still don’t know what everyone else did to her!

[@StillStanding-k2h]

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[@baharakbarotova3986]

cindy has nerve. she literally abandoned lucy and failed her, therefore she died. and she tried to get ian killed!

[@danielhead8123]

I love Tom Peter's relationship with this Bobby it's like he loves bobby too much to hate him

[@CammyTheSportsEntertainer]

I can understand both POVs. Bobby has genuinely redeemed himself since being released from prison. He's transformed into one of the kindest people with a big heart. But also get Cindy's POV. It's harder for her to forgive. No blood relation and he's her daughter's killer, accident or not. So I understand why she was aggrieved. That said, chucking the wine at him was unacceptable. But fair play for apologising.

[@nickyhaugh2390]

I'd say Cindy chucking wine over Bobby was rather "impulsive", yet she should be seeking HIS forgiveness as well for trying to have Ian killed. Because had she successfully got Ian killed in the end, then not only would Peter have had a life without a father - but Bobby himself wouldn't have existed and neither Laura nor Jane nor even Mel would've existed were it not for the fact that Ian Beale's first wife proved to be his only wife and his killer by proxy.

[@billydeeuk]

@@nickyhaugh2390Laura, Jane and Mel were born long before Cindy tried to have Ian killed

[@marcnoonan2187]

Peter and Ian better watch Cindy. I wouldn’t put it past her to try and really harm Bobby.

[@H.K.5]

I couldn’t imagine this version of Bobby ever killing anyone tbh

[@danielhead8123]

I think that's the point

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

Exactly. He’s grown up and is more mature now.

[@H.K.5]

@@danielhead8123 No it’s just the recast. I probably wouldn’t think that way if the original actor was still playing Bobby.

[@qasimhussain1678]

@@H.K.5 Who’s your favourite actor to have play Bobby, I prefer the one the who killed Lucy, I can’t stand this one he’s a wimp and awkward.

[@jaredporikos2197]

@@H.K.5 they could have that Bobby mature

[@VincentHubbardFan]

Ian bravely defended his son and it wasn’t the first time, definitely something Vincent would’ve done if he lived long enough to have a child 😢

[@Muscle880]

That’s deep 😔

[@joshuacarroll6668]

Umm vincent was alive long enough to have not 1 but 2 children

[@battywingz]

As much as I loved the Hubbards and hated how abruptly they just ended their feuds, you gotta let go mate, even his widowed wife and daughter are over him

[@pagethreemodel]

I love how you were able to tie this to Vincent. You remind me of the ee fan who keeps going on about how Whitney will get what's coming to her for running Kat over 😂😂

[@marcnoonan2187]

I was stunned to see both Peter and Ian protect Bobby.

[@Timevortex-x8o]

Bobby had done his time glad lan and his brother Peter stood by him

[@subhaan7861]

Like Cindy would care about finishing with Ian 😂😂😂😂😂

[@WalkerSlayer9878]

I love how Bobby just stood there and looked her in the face and didn’t try to run away. Sometimes you have to face what you’ve done and you have to face those you who hurt wether it’s recent or in the past. No matter how difficult or painful it may seem. You have to own up to the things you did and you have to take whatever backlash you receive back like a man / woman. You have to take responsibility, cos running away won’t solve anything. Hiding doesn’t solve anything. I love how Eastenders have established that important aspect of life. The more you hide yourself or lock yourself away, the worse it’s going to get. You have to face the consequences of your actions. And this is based on Murder. Something like that, Consequences are going to stick with you for the rest of your life. Love how it’s being highlighted with Bobby here. You can tell he was feeling sick and anxious yet he stood his ground and he faced his Victim’s mother. It’s a hard thing to do but in reality you don’t got a choice. Either face what you’ve done and try to find some peace from it or hide away and allow it to destroy you and those who have also been impacted by it ❤️

[@marcnoonan2187]

Don’t forget Bobby was lied to and didn’t know he killed her until Max was sent to prison.

[@dannytooley7530]

Good Peter there for his little brother to make him feel better

[@laurenc2976]

He was a child for goodness sake. He lashed out and it ended in tragic circumstances but Cindy was a fully grown adult when she arranged for Ian to be murdered. Jane was actually far more guilty than Bobby for covering the whole thing up.

[@Jonesy-c9w]

Adam and Michelle are iconic 👑👑❤️❤️

[@NoirFan84]

Tbf, I don't think I could move past that. Ian & Peter have had more time to accept it & forgive plus they are blood related to Bobby. People will feel for Bobby because they've seen him the past few years onscreen have become fond him & know how sensitive he is but from Cindy's perspective he's just that kid who murdered her little girl.

[@brooklynnharper5796]

Cindy can't throw the stones she tried to kill ian

[@NoirFan84]

@@brooklynnharper5796 But she didn't kill him. And it doesn't mean she's obliged to forgiven & forget some kid killing her daughter.

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

@@NoirFan84she hired someone to do it 🙄 Bobby isn’t some kid. He’s Ian’s son and is an adult now.

[@NoirFan84]

@@Guitar-qv6gu I know all this, what the hell is your point? He was a kid when he did it. You people think she should forgive someone killing her kid just because she tried to kill Ian in the past. Completely ludicrous, the two events have no correlation at all. Put yourself in her position see how accepting you are ffs.

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

@@NoirFan84 she should get lost then FFS. He’s Ian’s son whether she likes it or not.

[@Tool-Deftonesfan101]

My heart goes out to Bobby. He didn't deserve this at all. Bobby made a mistake and he was only a kid when he committed the crime.

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

Well said.

[@Tool-Deftonesfan101]

@@Guitar-qv6gu I mean...he made a mistake by killing his sister, not to mention that he was only a child. Then when he got out of prison, he started converting to Islam, which was his personal choice. But unfortunately, he got attacked in early 2020 by a group of racists, which is so sickening. If Bobby finds peace and enjoyment out of Islam, then it's up to him. At the end of the day, people can choices in life, and the way he wanted to believe in Islam in order to change himself is a wonderful thing he's doing.

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

@@Tool-Deftonesfan101 yeah you’re right.

[@meryemlah1190]

👍

[@beautyqueenlove123]

How is mistake killing someone’s

[@YourMother069]

Cindy: *made the choice as a full grown adult to have another person murdered then instead of doing time for the attempted murder she chose to abandon her entire family for 25 years in the middle of which had a new family that she also abandoned* Bobby: *lashed out due to severe anger issues and other possible mental problems as a 12 year old resulting in an unintentional death and another person in hospital then goes to prison serves his time and turns his life around for the better and continues to try to be better* Also Cindy: “he’s a monster 😭” Make this make sense 😂

[@bevanborges4047]

Bobby was 10 not 12 when he killed Lucy.

[@CallumMacfarlane-ne7xw]

Fair play for standing up for his son

[@Brogan_Balfour_Crescent]

Lucy died never knowing her mum because Cindy tried having her father assassinated and got locked up. But Bobby commited manslaughter when he finally lost his temper with Lucy and snapped but now Cindy is playing the bereaved mother 😒

[@kevinlongman007]

Lucy was a horrible character anyway.

[@Chuckyboy-m6l]

She looked good in stockings

[@collistooth8314]

So Cindy should just neck a top up and forget...and wait for the woke KZbin writers to pounce...?? Three dimensions not required...

[@JDillon03MUFC]

Cindy tried to have Ian killed she’s a hypocrite what Bobby done was an accident and he was a kid he didn’t do it on purpose.

[@AgentJeffX]

Wow Ian I didn't expecting that reaction of him. That was a great scene. I know Bobby did something really really bad killing Lucy, but Ians reaction was so powerful. This is the Ian I want to see, for standing up for his childs.

[@marcnoonan2187]

I too was shocked and pleased to see both Peter and Ian Stand up for him.

[@DemarD__D]

Good to see Ian loves his son

[@wifenal2864]

Good scene this I actually cheered for Ian

[@kingwolf243]

lol forgot Cindy was Lucy's mother defo can understand why she went for Bobby like that.🤣🤣🤣

[@mrclaretandblue]

Well done Ian, fair play to him for standing up for his son.

[@cfexplorations9583]

To be fair I can't believe I'm saying this but Ian has been great since his return in such limited screen time aswell. He's standing up to everybody. Although I do get Cindy's point aswell theirs no way I could be around the person that killed my child. Its different for Ian as its his son but Cindy doesn't have that bond with Bobby.

[@Mantiscular12]

Cindy should of dumped Ian if she didn't want to deal with Ians son. She will be running back to her old man before you know it.

[@cfexplorations9583]

Complete agree.

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

Cindy should leave then. Bobby is Ian’s son.

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

@@cfexplorations9583 *SHOULD HAVE*

[@collistooth8314]

Cindy tried to cancel the hitman in 1996... Saint Bobby killed Lucy and tried to kill Jane... Ian left Denny to drown... Potato/Potarto...

[@KCCanadaCanada10]

finally he has balls haha

[@jameliakingstom1190]

Bringing up the fact that he helped her isn’t right. She has a right to not want to Sit with her daughters killer whether he was a child or not

[@ibrahimanjum6575]

It's like saying if Steven faked his death and Ian confront him and Cindy defends him saying "i'm his mum" aftter everything Steven did to Ian,Jane and Lauren. Beside Ian should have reminded her he is also Lucy's dad and he couldn't haved even looked at Bobby when Bobby was released.

[@battywingz]

Is the candlelight supposed to symbolise the upcoming fire at the cafe??

[@Icebeamed134]

Who is she get to decided he not welcome I mean bobby has faced the consequences an He proven he a good person Cindy is no better than bobby

[@danielhindson1840]

Jane is definitely coming back she has to face Cindy the woman who mothered her kids Lucy and Peter and Cindy Jr when she was supposed to be dead

[@seancalvinparkinson7822]

Cindy starting the wicked stepmother routine.

[@sajidahussain5225]

Cindy likes to play dead and then goes round judging people

[@danny_long_legs]

Bobby didn't plan to murder her he just hit her that caused her to die which he didn't plan to do. Bobby has remorse for what he did it's not like his proud of what he did.

[@Chalky1mil757]

Owen me and clay having another baby from kat Russell ❤

[@midnightstar1996]

I'll admit. What Bobby did was wrong. But he paid for his mistake. And I'm so glad Ian finally defended him after all these years because he is still his son. I wish it could have been different for Lucy, but we've got the scriptwriters to blame for her demise.

[@HannahChannon-dm5ux]

You kill Jane Lucy I want you don't I don't care about you Lucy is my friend goodbye Bobby

[@Chalky1mil757]

Congrats kat babes clay told me your pregnant witg bis baby love u and our kids ykur all my family from owen ❤❤❤

[@Mantiscular12]

I have a feeling that Ian will get rid of her in the end.

[@yulejbaylock103]

Eastenders is Allien 3 and dark fate nowdays .

[@calcium5063]

Cindy is one to talk. She called a hit on Ian and happily let Lucy die thinking she was dead. Ian is the biggest mug of all for taking her back

[@abbieroseholden4174]

This was 10 years ago Cindy

[@dannytooley7530]

10 next year the story line wii be 10 years old

[@mumihp]

Cindy is a hypocrite, she tried to kill Ian. Bobby was a child, and he paid for his sins. I bet Cindy will fake forgive but will still be a bitch or try something to get rid of him. Also, bit cheeky to cry for Lucy, Cindy has a habit of abandoning her children.

[@erintheresa2430]

I can't stand to seeing Peter cry. 😢 #thomaslaw

[@georgemills2414]

Im did ian just do something noble and unselfish 😮😮😮😂😂😂

[@EyanOwen-Long]

2:34 looks like Peter is trying not to laugh 😂

[@heatherlingard9444]

I was smiling my head off when ian finally stood up for his son and told cindy to stop it bobby has changed hes become a sweet kind hearted young man who deserves a young woman who actually truly loves him and he loves her back i get why cindy is angry but she needs to give him at least a chance to show her that he was just a kid back then and he has changed if she truly loved ian she would accept that bobby is his son and has every right to return home ian has helped her so much so she should repay him by agreeing to bobby coming home shes no angel herself chucking wine over bobby was going to far and well done peter for rushing to bobbys aid to check he was ok and stood by him

[@ellenkingsley]

I feel sorry for Bobby I have a feeling he will go to Kathy and Rocky I don't see him staying with Ian,Peter and Cindy he look like he was gonna have a panic attack

[@jaredporikos2197]

Wow Ian , this is awesome

[@omarstone4637]

I was fully expecting to Ian to tell Bobby to go back to Sonia and I love the new/old Peter better than tall Ian Beale peter

[@KaleemAkbar786]

Axe Bobby

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

@@KaleemAkbar786nothing wrong with him.

[@Lisa-ow7wn]

I understand the anger

[@darrylball3880]

team ian

[@dannytooley7530]

Go IAN for telling her not to throw a bottle of wine 🍷 I thinks it’s wine and to tell her if she does that agin he is finished with him and that would be good I dea because he doesn’t want his son to get hurt and killed by her and he loves his kids like all good parents do in this world

[@mione134]

They really need Cindy Jr back

[@lefez9015]

I would love her to come back.

[@danielhead8123]

They would have to recast

[@juliolleshi751]

Ian? Ultimatum that could leave him wifeless? Backbone? WHAT HAPPENED HERE???? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@stuartbarclay7940]

Jesus Christ... Poor Bobby...

[@jamessky9155]

Cindy's ''murderer'' was very weak compared to when Peggy said it, hehe; kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGnGpWShesqJZrc

[@JayJay-nc7pr]

I completely get Cindy, her daughter was lost to her forever she has every right to hate Bobby

[@isaidwhatisaid..]

I like Cindy, but this lady hired a hitman to kill Ian So she has a lot in common with Bobby Also she cause destruction wherever she goes

[@PaulSullivan-u4u]

As a gay man i find bobby loveable not in a weird way but in a way because of his positive nature. Bobby only does good he did a terrible thing yes but since then he has stayed out of trouble worked hard to rebuild relationships and also in my opinion won over the nation. Bobby would be a ideal boyfriend yes if he was that way inclined but he still lacks confidence

[@samanthab1923]

Does Cindy have a drinking problem? Seems to hit the vino pretty hard

[@andyseabrookfitness8693]

cindy is a fine one to talk, considering she got ian shot!!

[@haydencooper_]

The kid "crying" is missing a vital element....tears.

[@reisetyler]

Did Cindy not also try to call Ian? I could be wrong but a bit ironic

[@rodgerkehl8399]

She should have given him a swift backhander

[@runningcafe1]

You lot are all lost. Bobby was a young adult at the time. He decided to kill his sister. How is he innocent? I don't think he is. I really like Ian, but his fatherhood is sadly misuiding him

[@charlesjunior5087]

Can someone explain this to me??

[@marcnoonan2187]

That was cruel.

[@judechannelimaginationcros8684]

Does Bobby Beale deserved to be hated?

[@CammyTheSportsEntertainer]

No. He's redeemed himself, and is extremely remorseful for what happened. But I can understand why Cindy is angry. The wine chucking wasn't okay though.

[@taylordonadel4543]

He made a mistake he was just a kid look he’s done his time he’s paid the price and look at him he has changed everyone in the square can see that. What happened to Lucy was an accident Peter and Ian forgave him because Bobby is peters brother and Ian’s son. The point is Bobby hates himself for it he is sensitive to the subject he has to live with what he did to Lucy for the rest of his life his life will never be the Same after years he spent being put away he’s made up for what he has done to everyone in the square I think Cindy is being way to hard on Bobby he deserves a second chance he’s a good kid

[@jameliakingstom1190]

Yes

[@jameliakingstom1190]

@@CammyTheSportsEntertainershe should’ve done more

[@rodgerkehl8399]

Yes

[@marcnoonan2187]

WAY TO GO IAN.

[@peter0010]

We need Cindy vs Jane

[@LittleMixFan-cf8mf]

2:08 omg!!

[@emilywyer7592]

2:51 2:51

[@JordanjamesX]

Cindy has every right to lash out at Bobby. Good for Cindy she definitely isn't finished with Bobby yet. Bobby killed Cindy child Lucy is dead. It is unreasonable for Peter and Ian expect Cindy to accept Bobby.

[@lefez9015]

Cindy is the same woman who tried to have their father killed. She's not one to point fingers.

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

Nope. She’s in the wrong here.

[@Guitar-qv6gu]

@@KaleemAkbar786STOP.

[@joshuaferris5577]

@@KaleemAkbar786 no Peter stood up for him

[@BVEfan]

Cindy went way too far by throwing a glass of wine at Bobby like that, Shame on her! Bobby has redeemed himself and changed a lot and has become a nice decent young man in his 20s now working in the Fish & Chip Shop with his best friend Freddy Slater. It is hard to forgive a stepchild who accidently took the life of your own but Cindy really has to accept him as her own stepson now!

[@kathleencorson-lh3pz]

Bobby killed Lucy. There is no coming back from that. And Bobby served his time in prison for Lucy's murder. But Lucy was Peter's twin sister. And she was Cindy and Ian's twin daughter and Bobby killed their Lucy out of jealousy was it. Was Bobby jealous of the mount of attention that Lucy was getting from Ian and Jane and Peter and Kathy etc. But was no need to get Lucy out of the way just so Ian could pay more attention to him instead of Lucy. That's wrong. Cindy and Ian loved Lucy. Peter loved and adored his twin sister Lucy but Bobby Beale he was jealous because he was Laura Beale's son with Ian not Ian and Cindy's son like Peter is. Bobby needs to explain to Cindy why he killed Lucy.

[@Chalky1mil757]

Shut your mouth leaf clay al8ne from owen

[@Ghet104]

Tbh, i wished they never turned Bobby into a killer. Why would they make a 13 year old boy murder his own sister and nearly killing his own mother? Sick

[@30Something90sChild]

He was 9.

[@Ghet104]

@@30Something90sChild oops my bad