EastEnders - Grant vs. Joe, Grant and Tiffany get back together (17th June 1997)

As requested by @PresLover
Joe finds out Lorraine and Grant have split up, leading to some dramatic confrontations. The experience brings Tiffany and Grant closer again.
Originally aired on 17/06/97.
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[@chrisrowe7503]

Tiffany must be the only one who Peggy truely thought the world of. Even when she admitted Grant might not be the father she stuck by her. I was gutted when they killed Tiff off. Biggest mistake EastEnders made even bigger mistake than when they killed off Ronnie and Roxy in my view.

[@bfyrth]

yeh, except ofcourse they are fictitious characters and as such Peggy did not think anything, as it was an actor, but you were correct apart from that minor point

[@wickedwitchoftheeast88]

Agree Peggy always had a soft spot for Tiffany Eastenders made a massive mistake killing her off

[@MJQueenForever]

A-FUCKING-MEEEEEEN!

[@chrisrowe7503]

@@bfyrth Thanks for stating the obvious. However you have to speculate about characters to keep up the interest.

[@bfyrth]

@@chrisrowe7503 lol

[@meggriffin94]

Tiffany is so pretty.

[@DeepScreenAnalysis]

Tiffany always made me think of a real life Snow White. She just had the most gorgeous features, that clear skin and lovely dark eyebrows, like a Disney animated character come to life.

[@RandomUploads-ch3bh]

Lorraine was quite nice too 😝

[@jdmitchell2]

looks great in that dress

[@H.K.5]

Grant wasn’t a bad looking bloke but I always thought Tiffany was too hot for him.

[@sallygreen4420]

Bianca's Hair, in the beginning, looked amazing.

[@MarkBrydondrums85]

best ive ever seen her tbh.

[@geraldineangelamurray3001]

She was never a looker. Her hair was her main feature

[@rayoflight6505]

Tiffany being killed was such a fuck up. She'd have been amazing in recent years imagine her and Sharon together with Grant in the mix.

[@DeepScreenAnalysis]

So true. Aside from the fact that she was arguably the most popular EastEnders character of the 90s, Tiffany dying seemed so forced and wrong, and unnatural for where that character was headed. She had been in an abusive relationship and and had suffered so much on the show... it sent out a really ugly message to have her killed like that, and her baby daughter given over to the man who had treated her so badly.

[@MJQueenForever]

And Kaffffy! Lol

[@meridian2000]

But if Martine hadn't left Eastenders when she did, we wouldn't have had her music career which she wanted to do, there would be no Perfect Moment, no I've got You, no Love Me and Talking in Your Sleep, no I'm Over You and no On the Radio, so I'm glad that Martine left Eastenders when she did. Same for Patsy Palmer, Sid Owen and Ross Kemp which I'm glad they left in 1999 and 2000 to make way for new characters, such as Melanie, Steve, Lisa, Jamie, Billy and the slaters.

[@meridian2000]

@@DeepScreenAnalysis But if Martine hadn't left Eastenders when she did, we wouldn't have had her music career which she wanted to do, there would be no Perfect Moment, no I've got You, no Love Me and Talking in Your Sleep, no I'm Over You and no On the Radio, so I'm glad that Martine left Eastenders when she did. Same for Patsy Palmer, Sid Owen and Ross Kemp which I'm glad they left in 1999 and 2000 to make way for new characters, such as Melanie, Steve, Lisa, Jamie, Billy and the slaters.

[@smallie210]

I would have liked to have seen a Grant Tiffany Sharon love triangle. It's a shame Letitia Dean left as soon as Martine McCutheon just arrived in EastEnders

[@annamartin4731]

Wish Tiffany wasn't killed off.

[@Zedd1500]

Same here.

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

Eastenders was so much better then. ;*(

[@azzy840]

I think Tiffany was the only woman Grant actually loved because he changed after she died. But Grant was such a bully back in the 90s.

[@alannahfidler3418]

Did you watch Eastenders in the 90s, it was obvious grants heart was with Sharon even when he was with Tiffany and why he treated her so badly. Anybody who says different mustn’t have very good observational skills.

[@l0ndon429]

@@alannahfidler3418 Agreed. As sappy as it sounds, Sharon was really the love of Grants life.

[@MJQueenForever]

In the end he realised that Tiff was "the love of his life". Shame it took so long and after sleeping with Tiff's mother! But I believe like most, you get more than one love of your life. And I truly believe he did love Sharon yes, but he also loved Tiff. They were the two loves of his life IMO. He was just troubled. He wanted his cakes and to eat them too. He and Phil were screwed up thanks to their childhood, what Eric did to them, Grant being in the army which caused PTSD... Like it does for many Veterans. He's moronic and a character in a TV soap but still....

[@alannahfidler3418]

@@MJQueenForever the writers even said that their entire relationship was based unrequited love so I’m not really sure why your trying to fight it. The writers even want to have grant rape Tiffany and rightfully they stopped it due to backlash you really think this was the route they were planning to go down? It is exactly the same as Phil & Lisa’s relationship only Tiffany got killed off

[@alannahfidler3418]

@Rose Vassiliou yes and I think the majority of us would agree that it was evident his one true love was Sharon, he was obviously arrogant and abusive to her but it was always evident that he loved her and was besotted with her. All we got from grant whilst in a relationship with tiff was he was only there for his daughter and saw her a nuisance hence why he told her to her face he didn’t love her, was willing to run away with Kathy and dump her for Lorraine hardly comparable, if you want a quote from the scriptwriter he literally said ‘grant was too damaged to ever love Tiffany properly’ you evidently missed the entire point of their relationship, you don’t fall in love with somebody because they had your kid, their age difference was obviously another factor also brought up 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@neverwhere1391]

He was too ill to see he was sick. It must have been a nightmare for Lorraine, especially as she did have Grant behaving just as she described. For Joe to have a male role model like that in his life would be a worry. I know Grant meant well though, and did really love her. But she was right to end things.

[@jakebiomask]

Grant was crazy, Lorraine was boring as fuck and he worshipped her, and Tiffany had an amazing personality and he treated her like rubbish.

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

This was one of the rare times Bianca came off as likable in my book. I didn't think she had it in her.

[@jaredporikos2197]

I love Bianca

[@patriciadooley5833]

Lorraine heard all about Grant and still went there. She was worse to have an affair with him.

[@danielwebb330]

This is a great eastenders channel looking forward to More uploads!

[@eastendersstorylines7822]

Thank you! Glad you're enjoying :D

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

BIANCA WAS MUCH MORE LIKABLE BACK THEN. ;*(

[@kathleencaruanasmith8143]

Aaww i loved grant and tiff together. Grant didnt treat her right, far from it but she knew what he was like and always wanted him back anyways. they was both as bad as eachother lol it was one of those relationships

[@woahkana]

literally those two were just one of those couples they just kept on coming back to eachother tiff couldn’t help but still love grant even after everything grant did he did love tiffany but he just didn’t know how to show it in a healthy way he acknowledged how much he hurt Tiffany but that didn’t seem to matter to her.

[@dalbsterlcfc92]

thx for the upload :D loved those scenes :)

[@shahbazz6362]

Poor Tiffany

[@annecheesman5958]

I loved Tiff. Beautiful inside and out. Such a same. Xx

[@gemmaaboagye8951]

If Grant changed Tiffany would not have left him

[@neverwhere1391]

True! 👌🏻

[@tommyjd12345]

poor girl, and silly girl, her own worst enemy in the end

[@yasali6649]

Its just sad beacuse when tiffany first came on to the square she was storng and stubborn and beacuse grant did treat her right most of the time she became lost

[@CherylFrancis-fn1uf]

About time someone put Joe in his place

[@jhibberd6290]

I think Dean Gaffney should have played Joe Wicks. He bares more than a passing resemblance to Lorraine

[@CourtneyComments]

Episode Soundtrack: Sleeper : Sale Of The Century Kula Shaker : Tattva Eternal : Power Of A Woman Ocean Colour Scene : The Day We Caught The Train Louise : One Kiss From Heaven East 17 : Hey Child

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

In other words, the episode was worth watching for the music alone. Nowadays, the music would probably make me stop watching.

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

You missed You're Gorgeous by Baby Bird at 12:26!!!!!

[@neverwhere1391]

And You’re Gorgeous-Babybird.

[@neverwhere1391]

STEJTHEGREATEST Gawd, just saw this comment. 🤦🏻‍♀️😁

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

@@neverwhere1391 :P When does One Kiss from Heaven by Louise play????? I missed it. :(

[@tiamaria5861]

The thing that never rang true in this storyline was as if Grant would ever of chosen drippy Lorraine over Tiffany

[@alannahfidler3418]

Grant essentially saw Tiffany as a child & immature hence he treated her that way

[@woahkana]

Exactly, he only realised what he was going to lose when Tiffany was walking out and leaving him and then he realised.,.

[@saifhasan4481]

Man Tiffany is fit

[@rennymusic4460]

It looks like Joe Wicks looks so much better and way more communicative than he was when he got sectioned twice under the mental health act in November 1996 & May 1997 and his skills have been improving ever since

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

6:45 That was the exact second Grant started thinking he might have to kill Joe.

[@bamz9067]

Grants such an abusive man.this goes to show how normalised this behavior was

[@leejones8582]

Joe has been forgotten about

[@hussainmartins5985]

Like nearly 90% of EE characters once they die or leave.

[@crispincoque]

That is one cute baby! 😊👶

[@woahkana]

I know 😌

[@woahkana]

tiffany and grant were just one of those couples they just loved to hate eachother grant treated tiff like crap but she still came running back to him because she loved him and as for grant he was adamant that he didn’t want tiffany but he ended up sleeping with her anyway it’s like they had this magnetic pull to eachother they were toxic but they just couldn’t help it.

[@pamelabibby180]

joey was off the rails had mental health problems to some people tiffany is like joey mental health problems is all about how you are brought up

[@zoedark7101]

No its not . it's chemical imbalance.

[@jenniferh1104]

@John Gilmore public bar saloon saloon

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

8:05 Wow, that's just cold, Grant. Joe saw you as a badass surrogate father figure.

[@Landofnothing]

20:59 How foreshadowing

[@jaidelacey287]

I really liked grant with Jane i wish that wasn't just a fling

[@ritamulloy3522]

Get a life, Joe 🙄

[@Unicysis]

He can’t hear you, because he’s too busy having a go at people 😂

[@stephanblack4558]

Joe wants to be the only gay in the village.

[@nathanchristie8881]

Grant vs Joe

[@elainelydon1184]

Grants stubborn

[@jdmitchell2]

He's a Mitchell

[@gazelliott2414]

lorraine was so hot

[@daniellionheart3788]

Lorraine and Chrissie are the hottest chicks to ever be on the square

[@H.K.5]

How are you saying that on a video including Tiffany? Lol

[@woahkana]

literally like have they got eyes? 💀

[@Allaroundtheworld99]

Joe is so extra fgs

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