Karen defended Grey to the last minute. What Mitch said was right
@rapidsmartypants2 жыл бұрын
Karen: (Crying) How could you say all that stuff to me? Me: Didn’t you call Mitch a monster just before you learned the truth?
@lukedaley172 жыл бұрын
Yes. I hate it when women try to play the victim.
@Hutchman98 Жыл бұрын
Karen is a hypocrite, but I still feel sorry for her hurt
@raesarchives2 жыл бұрын
His not wrong, he said it from the jump and everyone thinks the same. Gray never liked Karen but like Mitch said cause he was polished and had money she ignored all the signs
@AS-wj1du Жыл бұрын
She just ignored his treatment of her and chantelle for money, living the high life but chantelle should have said something
@IvyatHeart2 жыл бұрын
Long story short, both parties made truth filled arguments but Karen deserves and needed to be humbled... I'm just sorry it took losing Chantelle, Tina, and Kush who didn't deserve to die for it to happen
@youtuber.26302 жыл бұрын
Grief can make people say nasty things, i can understand where Mitch is coming from though.
@davidjonathandunitz15282 жыл бұрын
Karen was wrong to throw Mitch out. She was right in that he wasn't much of a dad over the years. But she was very naive in allowing Gray to dupe her all that time and she and Mitch need each other now.
@dynahvelvixin.86152 жыл бұрын
They both have their faults okay but Mitch was right saying he sensed something about Gray and Karen was naive and couldn't see it. But Mitch wasn't around okay he did come back and tried to make things right. They both have their faults in certain ways. But Gray is the one who killed Chantelle and was the abuser he was the one to blame for it all.
@wut-dah_72122 жыл бұрын
Whilst that’s obviously unfair, I can understand where he’s coming from in his state of mind and grief. When stuff like this happens we as humans want to rationalize and place blame, whether it be on ourselves or others to make tragedy make sense, when in actuality the fact that it happened at all and people like Gray enter our lives is the only thing at fault.
@abbieroseholden41742 жыл бұрын
I agree with Karen and Mitch. Mitch shouldn't of walked out on chantelle and Karen should've listened to Mitch about Gray. However, sadly hindsight is a wonderful thing and even if they did know Chantelle would've begged them to leave Gray alone because she loved him despite his evil ways
@Beth-ve7ob2 жыл бұрын
Karen kissed Gray's butt always. Even when he did not attend Chantelle's funeral. Gray sneered at Karen and she ignored it every single time and kissed his butt yet again. Karen will have plenty to think about when she's alone now.
@abbieroseholden41742 жыл бұрын
I agree with this however, Karen was right Mitch wasn't there for Chantelle either
@jaredporikos21972 жыл бұрын
@@abbieroseholden4174 excatly
@rapidsmartypants2 жыл бұрын
@@abbieroseholden4174 True. So in a way, they’re both at fault
@KeeshiexAsh2 жыл бұрын
@@rapidsmartypants only one at fault is gray. People like him know how to twist and manipulate their victims and the people around them. Even when their off the scene they still find ways to stick the knife in.
@AS-wj1du Жыл бұрын
Mitch is right. He saw through gray. Karen thought because he was rich, he was good. If she looked back, she'd see the signs of fear in chantelle. Mitch did and tried to draw it out of her more than once. She should have said something. She had time. She left it late
@lukedaley172 жыл бұрын
It was pretty harsh of Mitch to blame Karen for Chantelle’s death, but I can understand why he said that stuff. Because Gray was rich, Handsome and had a high profile job, it made Karen oblivious to what Gray was really like.
@abbieroseholden41742 жыл бұрын
Karen also called a Mitch a 'Monster' as Martin said they are all equally to.blame as none of them seen Grays true evil side
@lukedaley172 жыл бұрын
@@abbieroseholden4174 Mitch saw it and tried to tell Karen. But she wouldn’t believe it.
@fastvalkary725 Жыл бұрын
@@abbieroseholden4174 none of them are to blame for Chantelle's death the only one to blame is Gray. Karen is to blame for constantly making a villain of Mitch after Chantelle died. It was wrong of Mitch to say that.
@shannonsmith41742 жыл бұрын
totally 1 billion percent agree with you mitch......
@myataye21962 жыл бұрын
All the real eastenders lovers know the only reason Mitch did not act on his instincts about gray is because everyone kept trying to convince him that he was crazy when he would go against Gray. Grey did use Karen as a weapon and she deffo she knows that now , she didn’t even believe his confession at first !! Even Denise doubted Gray, but Karen always worshipped him smh.
@peterdavies29032 жыл бұрын
What a childhood those kids have had🙁😔
@oh28872 жыл бұрын
Poor Bailey ☹ she will be so disappointed that Mitch and Karen have fallen out.
@danny_long_legs2 жыл бұрын
Always step up if you have your suspicious then you will not feel like how Mitch is feeling.
@hunterhaywood59682 жыл бұрын
Yassssss Mitch. Tell her bout herself!!
@abbieroseholden41742 жыл бұрын
Martin is right hindsight is a wonderful thing. And they all should've known about Gray the truth is you can't let him destroy anymore. Let him rot in prison!! Let him be scared of being hurt everyday the same way he hurt Chantelle!!!
@lucindabundy18872 жыл бұрын
Karen was too soft on gray that's why she didn't see it
@JinWBO2 жыл бұрын
While I do blame Karen for always blindly defending Gray, Mitch also never tried to do that much considering how much more he knew, only the occasional minor thing. I'd still put this on Karen a bit more, but both are at fault to a degree. Also... how much is Karen gonna bring up how Mitch had abandoned the family for years? While yes, it was bad, it also feels like she's not willing to listen to anything he says and brushes it all off. All she does is point her fingers, raise her voice, and kick him out to dodge listening to him.
@CammyTheSportsEntertainer2 жыл бұрын
Gray had money and put on a facade. Karen, a mother from a lower class background, who earns little money admired Gray's wealth. So was blinded by it. I think Mitch really wanted to but Karen always guilt tripped Mitch using his past mistakes to put doubt in his mind.
@JinWBO2 жыл бұрын
@@CammyTheSportsEntertainer that does make sense, like I imagine that she sees this as Gray being a better father figure than Mitch was, and that Mitch would just damage the family again with his supposed recklessness. If Karen can help it, she wouldn't wanna end up in a life of struggle again, and back then, she had no reason to doubt Gray at all, nothing that she noticed anyway.
@CammyTheSportsEntertainer2 жыл бұрын
@@JinWBO Mitch made alot of mistakes and he had the decency to acknowledge his behaviour. However, Karen constantly bringing it up when Mitch was suspicious of Gray was out of order. To me it felt like Karen didn't care what anyone thought because Gray was rich until Gray himself told her. I personally think it was partly why Chantelle was scared to tell her family. Gray being abusive the main reason. But Karen being Gray's blue eyed golden boy being the secondary reason.
@abbieroseholden41742 жыл бұрын
The only person to blame is Gray. Whitney is right no one knew what happened between Chantelle and Gray the truth was hidden. No one wants to believe their daughters husband is hurting her as that's not how it usually happens. Gray is the one who hurt Chantelle he is to blame for all of this and Chantelle even knew that that's why she never told Karen or Mitch
@AS-wj1du Жыл бұрын
@@CammyTheSportsEntertainer true. Bet if chantelle told Karen what gray did she'd be like no way whereas mitch would have immediately believed her. She overlooked it due to money
@eastenders66582 жыл бұрын
Gray reminds me of Owen just that Owen changed after life in prison hopefully Gray will change
@chillieboi21452 жыл бұрын
No one is to blame here, its all said in haste. Grief is a very powerful thing we say all sorts. Gray had every one fooled that is how a narcissist works he is the one to blame.
@dynahvelvixin.86152 жыл бұрын
Exactly 100% Gray was the main one to blame.
@abbieroseholden41742 жыл бұрын
@@dynahvelvixin.8615 I sound evil there was only ever going to be one way poor Chantelle would be free of evil Gray and he did it didn't he? He killed her. Such a shame Eastenders didn't make her hit him with an iron in self defence like Little Mo
@ASS-tb3mq2 жыл бұрын
I can also understand where Mitch is coming from I mean Karen knew gray for a good 10 years and never realised
@Borninthe80s.2 жыл бұрын
Don’t think anyone would think their child’s partner was abusing them
@ASS-tb3mq2 жыл бұрын
@@Borninthe80s. Yh but still she should’ve noticed Chantelle being extremely nervous and stuff
@paulclarke31822 жыл бұрын
Huh? I thought she only knew him from 2019.
@Beth-ve7ob2 жыл бұрын
Karen did NOT want to realise what was happening. A broken arm? Bruises? Jumpy? Nervous all the time? And Gray looking down on Karen from his lofty perch as a rich man; Karen then kowtowed to him and acted as if he was her superior. Mitch is right that Karen should have known something was not right. With Keegan bolting too, Karen will be alone as far as adult companionship goes. And she has done that to herself.
@HM-rw3zx2 жыл бұрын
10 years?
@LonDonTaylor.2 жыл бұрын
It's a strong contest between who the ultimate killer was, Lucas or Gray ? Lucas was maniac haha
@andybrookes47212 жыл бұрын
Yh but Lucas is redeemable unlike Gray who is beyond help
@H.K.52 жыл бұрын
Lucas was a maniac but he had a heart, Gray doesn't.
@LonDonTaylor.2 жыл бұрын
@@H.K.5 until God tells him that Lucas should cleanse the earth loool
@ececlips91552 жыл бұрын
@@H.K.5 And he could fight.
@ececlips91552 жыл бұрын
Lucas is easily Eastenders' best antagonist.
@liammcallister58502 жыл бұрын
Mitch is right about Gray was Karen's blue eye boy. She was too busy defending Gray all the time
@eastenders66582 жыл бұрын
Poor Mack and mia
@inaamishtiaq63222 жыл бұрын
shame on Karen for believing gray
@patdoe52422 жыл бұрын
If Mitch knew that there was something from the beginning then why didn't he investigate further in their relationship and you really blame Karen cuz Chantell hid everything what had gone on in their relationship in which her shoes was too scared to say anything and didn't want her parents involved and Gray was very good of putting the wool over every ones eyes
@abbieroseholden41742 жыл бұрын
He kept asking Chantelle what's going on. She defended Gray what was he supposed to do? We all know if Mitch saw Gray hurt Chantelle he would have him
@dynahvelvixin.86152 жыл бұрын
Mitch sensed something about Gray be he didn't know it was abuse. Yes he asked Chantelle was she ok when he sensed something but Chantelle kept hiding it.
@elizabethspedding19752 жыл бұрын
So sad that they break up.
@benmullins78682 жыл бұрын
If Mitch really knew what Gray was like, he wouldn’t have driven Chelsea back to Gray’s house when she was clearly terrified of him
@jonathanwilliams79462 жыл бұрын
She kept grey in her house . And that is your answer .
@damuri222 жыл бұрын
Really hope Mack/Mia don't grow up to be just like their father
@231natasha2 жыл бұрын
😅it's a soap!
@abbieroseholden41742 жыл бұрын
Okay I get it Mitch is right Karen should've listened however, Mitch should've stepped in as soon as he suspected he was beating Chantelle. Mitch come on do NOT let Gray ruin your life anymore!!! He will win
@dynahvelvixin.86152 жыл бұрын
He wasn't 100% sure Gray was beating Chantelle he just knew there was something about him.
@abbieroseholden41742 жыл бұрын
@@dynahvelvixin.8615 the only person to blame for this is Gray. Otherwise that means Chantelle is to blame for not saying anything but she isn't to the outside world she had it all little did everyone know Gray was beating her. Its his fault Gray never loved her he just used her as a punchbag.
@fastvalkary725 Жыл бұрын
@@abbieroseholden4174 before Chantelle died Mitch never knew exactly what Gray was doing to Chantelle, he certainly didn't know he was beating her he just saw something off about Gray. And it's not all down to Mitch to stop Gray it was down to Chantelle to tell anyone in her family what was really happening. Mitch had zero proof or an idea of what was going on.
@lynnecrisp2 жыл бұрын
Mitch is use to Karen kicking him out. Karen doesn't want to ever work thru anything w/Mitch. All she does is run from the issue. That's why Gray played her so easy. Says the spider to the fly as they say
@ellathreasa4 ай бұрын
karen is only having a hissy fit because she knows mitch is right and she knows she's wrong and can't admit she's in the wrong
@Vic351022 жыл бұрын
Karen what's blinded by grey's status And life
@ASS-tb3mq2 жыл бұрын
Mitch has no right to speak yes he knew about gray being bad I can respect that but 1 he was never there for Chantelle if he was she would’ve never even married him and 2 he never pressed hard enough to get an answer out of Chantelle i mean your her dad
@gemmaaboagye89512 жыл бұрын
Couldn't karen see how agressive grey was
@lisacarter11478 күн бұрын
Leave Karen Taylor alone
@danny_long_legs2 жыл бұрын
That was ungrateful of Mitch go blame Karen, how the hell could she known?! Gray put the wool over your eyes!
@inaamishtiaq63222 жыл бұрын
He told her from the beginning that gray killed Chantelle but she didn’t believe him
@laurafabianmarrero86142 жыл бұрын
@Riley and look were that got her .
@OmarAli-ku3de2 жыл бұрын
Ungrateful? At first he wasn’t even mentioning her, he said he knew all along, she made the dig like she’s done all these years to him that he’s never been there and that obviously hit a nerve knowing that their daughter was killed by her husband and that Mitch had suspicions all along whilst Karen never ever tried to once hear the others out! She’s got a very big part to deal with it…
@CammyTheSportsEntertainer2 жыл бұрын
To an extent. Mitch is correct. Karen blatantly sucked up to Gray Chantelle couldn't ever tell Karen if Gray was abusive. Karen probably wouldn't have believed Chantelle either. Mitch was right and I'm glad he told her how it was. If it wasn't for Karen I think Chantelle could've been able to tell Mitch what Gray was like.
@Borninthe80s.2 жыл бұрын
She didn’t say anything because she was terrified of gray Chantelle had plenty of opportunities to tell Mitch but she didn’t because she was scared
@CammyTheSportsEntertainer2 жыл бұрын
@@Borninthe80s. I get that, I do. I know people who've been in abusive relationships. However, Karen really sucked up to Gray because he was rich. That certainly did Chantelle no favours. Chantelle actually once came very close to telling Mitch but didn't in the end. I just don't think Karen would've believed Chantelle. Chantelle dying obviously isn't Karen's fault, Mitch was wrong there. Gray's a POS who's a brutal killer. However, I think Karen was a big detriment if Chantelle had any chance of coming forward. You may disagree and that's fine, it's a matter of opinion. I just don't think Karen helped at all.
@Borninthe80s.2 жыл бұрын
@@CammyTheSportsEntertainer Karen’s an airhead but even I think she would have believed it if Chantelle told her but it was always going to end up with Chantelle dying as that’s what was in the script
@CammyTheSportsEntertainer2 жыл бұрын
@@Borninthe80s. it's sad she died. I think from a production POV having her die was the right call. Eastenders are done domestic abuse stories where the victim has survived. But it doesn't always happen so for once they have the victim die. Still sad though and I'm glad Gray got his comeuppance.
@deanc85972 жыл бұрын
Good man
@thomaswhalley70885 ай бұрын
they should be mad at Gray for what he did to their daughter chantelle
@simplyphoenix36292 жыл бұрын
My Nan just died 3 weeks ago on the 15th March.
@hassantumbo6616 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss my friend
@simplyphoenix3629 Жыл бұрын
@@hassantumbo6616 thank you, can’t believe it’s been well over a year now
@shakhelapordimba2 жыл бұрын
karen was grays puppet he knew how to keep Karen hypnotized
@eastendersfan23632 жыл бұрын
A bit unfair of mitch to blame Karen she couldn't have known what gray was capable of he had suspicions of gray not being right and let it go so instead of blaming each other they should pull together for the grandkids sakes
@hsz_xk2 жыл бұрын
Mitch tried explaining it to her and she kept refusing to even listen, Karen was too blind cos gray was rich and had a good job so he isn't wrong
@mrdr01612 жыл бұрын
@@hsz_xk no she was blind because he spent like 10 years manipulating her into thinking he was perfect. Not because he was rich
@hsz_xk2 жыл бұрын
@@mrdr0161 him being rich was one of the reasons why she thought he was perfect
@winter_blix2 жыл бұрын
HE BLAMED HER WHAT?
@amywhitmell19972 жыл бұрын
I loved Chantelle in EastEnders because she was always beautiful and very pretty 💖
@thatskingbooker2 жыл бұрын
Okay and how would it be Karen’s fault
@javarnsylvan25282 жыл бұрын
He was suspicious from the start but Karen wouldn't believe him
@thatskingbooker2 жыл бұрын
@@javarnsylvan2528 oh I see , they could’ve kept a closer eye on Gray if she did
@dynahvelvixin.86152 жыл бұрын
Mitch said there was something about Gray and Karen didn't believe it.
@glennkitson58622 жыл бұрын
Amazing acting from Isaac Lemons and Mahela Malcolm's Mackenzie Aktins and Mia Aktins And Roger Griffiths Mitch Bakery And Lorraine Stanlet Karen Bakery
@vicvega242 жыл бұрын
Bakery 🤣
@Sunny.m22 Жыл бұрын
Baker
@kimgaffney72772 жыл бұрын
Did'nt mitch fetch chelsea back when she tried to get away from gray short memory
@salmon47032 жыл бұрын
Mitch has no right at all. He was inconsistent in his daughter's life. If anyone is to blame here it is Mitch.
@OmarAli-ku3de2 жыл бұрын
Ok inconsistency shouldn’t be blamed if the girl didn’t love the father which in this case isn’t true because Chantelle still loved her dad Mitch, course he has a right if she still called him dad… blame for actually listening to the right person last year which was kheerat. If Mitch didn’t go to Whitney and he didn’t tell Karen what he knew she wouldn’t have asked him if the things were true because Mitch wouldn’t have known and he could have been off with the kids because Karen is as thick as anything. He’s to blame but Karen much worse
@231natasha2 жыл бұрын
i blame Mitch and deep down he knows it's his fault. If he was in his daughters life from the get go and had a relationship with her before the marriage. Maybe there would be no Gray. A father/ father figure is supposed to protect his Daughter. They can see things that sometimes we as women are blind too. It is Mitch's fault 100%
@blinktwice45412 жыл бұрын
@@231natasha the person at fault is gray lmao, "100% mitchs fault" my ass lol. he was saying how it is lol, he knew from the start that there was something wrong with gray but she wouldn't listen and dismiss him.
@lloyddenvermckay14102 жыл бұрын
Don't think Karen & Mitch are to blame. This is all on Gray. He's 100% at fault for beating & then murderering Chantelle. Poor Mack & Mia - they're now have to live with the facts that their father is a bad man & he killed their mother!
@jameliakingstom11902 жыл бұрын
U know I really don’t understand y everyone r having a go at Karen at the end of the day understand it from her view she didn’t see the signs neither did Mitch and if he had such a strong opinion he would’ve done something about it months ago but no he left it and now blames Karen for everything
@jameliakingstom11902 жыл бұрын
And how else do u expect her to react when ur daughters husband ur grandkids dad is being accused of murder ur just supposed to roll over and believe ur right no she had no reason to believe and in the end she did the right thing when she catches on with his lies and that’s when she knew
@paulclarke31822 жыл бұрын
Mitch was out of order here
@craigwaters15082 жыл бұрын
😱😱
@glennkitson58622 жыл бұрын
Aktins family Gary Aktins Toby Alexandre Smith Chantal Aktins Jess Plumber Mackenzie Aktins Isaac Lemons Mia Aktins Mahela Malcolm's
@jaredporikos21972 жыл бұрын
Team Karen
@anesseameer2 жыл бұрын
Keegan pissed me off needs to do one so can Karen she's annoying as well do one aswell
@liamkenyon752 жыл бұрын
Bad acting from the kids playing mac and mia very wooden
@lloydr64able2 жыл бұрын
The whole family appart from gray, cant act!
@paulclarke31822 жыл бұрын
Get a grip they're only about 9 years old People you like piss me off.