Eastern Europe is not real

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Kraut

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@Kraut_the_Parrot
@Kraut_the_Parrot 8 ай бұрын
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@strawberrykun6136
@strawberrykun6136 8 ай бұрын
Slayyy
@Arrow14100
@Arrow14100 8 ай бұрын
Bro really did Slovenia dirty with those cat ears lmao
@JmKrokY
@JmKrokY 8 ай бұрын
Cool
@JmKrokY
@JmKrokY 8 ай бұрын
​@@Arrow14100Slovenes are femboys
@JmKrokY
@JmKrokY 8 ай бұрын
​@@JohnGeometresMaximosNo?
@DuckSwagington
@DuckSwagington 8 ай бұрын
There is a joke among slavic countries which is that Eastern Europe starts to the east of their own country, as no one wants to be seen as eastern european.
@guydreamr
@guydreamr 8 ай бұрын
To the east is Mordor.
@LMB222
@LMB222 8 ай бұрын
Or east of your region 😂 "Od Konina Azja się zaczyna" - east of Konin (town) is all Asia
@profet1385
@profet1385 8 ай бұрын
@@LMB222 Funny :) I'm Polish and didn't know this one!
@freekmulder3662
@freekmulder3662 8 ай бұрын
Not even only Slavic, here in Netherlands we say that Eastern Europe starts at the Ruhr and in France (from the Romans) they say that Eastern Europe starts at the Rhine
@breezeout
@breezeout 8 ай бұрын
This is literally Žižek's "official geographical limit" video
@dwightk.schrute8696
@dwightk.schrute8696 8 ай бұрын
Hello from Czechia, please don't rob me of the opportunity to explain to you how we're Central Europe and not Eastern Europe, it's all we have.
@BagelBoy97
@BagelBoy97 8 ай бұрын
Czechia, the only country who is remembered internationally as the joke country who “is obsessed with their geography”, even though having an insane amount of history and culture that could easily rival Vienna and Paris.
@neres5795
@neres5795 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, czechia is quite firmly a western nation. Us Slovaks on the other hand, yikes.
@wolight
@wolight 8 ай бұрын
To be fair I have never seen a definition of "central Europe" that wasn't missing a few countries or had a few too many
@AngryCrazyRussian
@AngryCrazyRussian 8 ай бұрын
Терпи, лимитроф
@shutout951
@shutout951 8 ай бұрын
You also have one kind of beer that you pour different ways
@vneezy
@vneezy 8 ай бұрын
The real eastern Europe was the friends we made along the way
@breadcat0469
@breadcat0469 8 ай бұрын
Real
@ReySchultz121
@ReySchultz121 8 ай бұрын
Like 30+ friends
@flapablesteak8986
@flapablesteak8986 8 ай бұрын
True 😂 ✌️✌️
@That_guy-s2l
@That_guy-s2l 8 ай бұрын
And the experiences we've made, that will help us to prevent future mistakes
@appa609
@appa609 8 ай бұрын
if you get offended by being called Eastern European, you are Eastern European.
@G-Rat124
@G-Rat124 7 ай бұрын
American here, so not exactly who you were looking for an answer from. I always lumped those countries together as former soviet countries. In my head without thinking too hard, I would further group them together subconsciously as the Czechs and Poles, the Balkans, and then everyone else. It's probably due to the fact that in school we mostly learn about the Poles and Czechs with ww2, all the historic conflicts in the balkans, and then not a lot else. It also probably helps that there are a lot of people with Polish ancestry where I'm from, and they are quite emphatic about it. This video does make me feel the need to drop the term eastern european from my vocabulary and to be more specific and concise in my language. Good video as always, kraut.
@LuaanTi
@LuaanTi 6 ай бұрын
That was always the point of that designation, yes. And it survived intact quite long, unlike others like... did you know that 1st, 2nd and 3rd world countries were all about alignment in the cold war, and not at all about wealth? A typical 3rd world country would be a poor place like, say... Switzerland :D 1st world was NATO and aligned countries, 2nd world was Warshaw Pact and aligned countries and 3rd world was "neutral". And of course, "former Soviet countries" spans the whole gamut from "living in a yurt with a single goat" to "actual industrial centre of the former Austro-Hungarian Empire". And to be fair, there was a lot of wealth spreading between the countries, though of course a lot of that wealth still found its way into "Russia". And don't forget that this was after the destruction of WW2 where Western Europe got a huge amount of rebuilding support from the US and Eastern Europe didn't, so it's not all about "the communism". Though to be fair again, a lot of countries like Czechia were meant to be part of the Marshal plan too and were well into that, but "Russia" boycotted that.
@Adriano70911
@Adriano70911 4 ай бұрын
@@LuaanTi very good point, two things are missing. Western countries even received huge reparations from Germany while countries like Poland received nothing again thanks to Soviets which forced them to reject it. The second thing is Soviets were literally robbing these countries out of resources like coal or gold
@DemosthenesKar
@DemosthenesKar 3 ай бұрын
I learnt eastern europe is just the russian sphere of influence.
@khastanien3476
@khastanien3476 3 ай бұрын
@@LuaanTi interestingly enough, there was an international plan to give financial aid to soviet sattelite countries as well but Moscow pressured them to decline the offer with promises that "the soviet countries will all take care of each other". We all know how well they delivered on that.
@Anacronian
@Anacronian 8 ай бұрын
"The French being French" is a perfectly good explanation for everything that happens in France.
@TheAmericanPrometheus
@TheAmericanPrometheus 8 ай бұрын
French people ☕
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 8 ай бұрын
Nobody knows what it means, but it's provocative. It gets the people going.
@amelie1287
@amelie1287 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, I didn't understand this sentence 🤔
@ungergabor
@ungergabor 8 ай бұрын
I haven't laughed so hard in a long time.
@bjornodin
@bjornodin 8 ай бұрын
​@@amelie1287I take it, you are not french?
@rkt7414
@rkt7414 8 ай бұрын
Imagine cracking the "I only eat Russians" joke in front of a judge in a real life werewolf-ism trial 💀
@Kraut_the_Parrot
@Kraut_the_Parrot 8 ай бұрын
Yep. This actually happened.
@rkt7414
@rkt7414 8 ай бұрын
@@Kraut_the_Parrot I thought you were doing a deadpan joke for the video! That was real?!!
@Kraut_the_Parrot
@Kraut_the_Parrot 8 ай бұрын
@@rkt7414 Yes. I'll give you some more information if you are interested. The werewolf trial happened during a protestant witchcraze in the Latvia town of Jaunpils in 1621. The accused was an 80 year old man who claimed to be a werewolf and "a man of the hound god". He claimed to protect the village crops by turning into a werewolf and hunting those who would steal the town crops. He also performed religious rituals for the "hound god". One of his defenses during his trial was "I only eat Russians". If you want to learn more you can read "Night Battles - Witchcraft and Agrarian cults in the 16th and 17th century" by Carlo Ginzberg.
@taptiotrevizo9415
@taptiotrevizo9415 8 ай бұрын
​@Kraut_the_Parrot This was literally the 17th century equivalent of Japanese Officer going "we only killed 102" or paraphrasing.
@letoatreides5165
@letoatreides5165 8 ай бұрын
We need him on the front lines ASAP
@Tusiriakest
@Tusiriakest 8 ай бұрын
I'm Portuguese. My girlfriend is Italian. When, in the summer of 2022, I told my 84yo granny that I was visiting my girlfriend's parents in northern Italy, she begged me not to go because of Putin's invasion of Ukraine. When I told her that Ukraine was pretty far from Italy she told me: "all those eastern countries are the same to me". So in some sense, what you call eastern, center, western, is also a matter of your POV.
@jestfuldemigod
@jestfuldemigod 8 ай бұрын
Grandmothers are so pure 💓💓
@Dyknown
@Dyknown 8 ай бұрын
I heard a similar response where a man told his grandmother he was marrying someone from South America and he was told “aren’t they all PROTESTANT down there?”
@eskipoI
@eskipoI 8 ай бұрын
Se para a tua avó o norte da Itália é ligada com o conceito de europa de leste, então Portugal é a Ásia Central 😂😂😂
@Tusiriakest
@Tusiriakest 8 ай бұрын
@@eskipoI Portugal é Bálcãs xD
@LodrikBadric
@LodrikBadric 8 ай бұрын
Haha that's hilarious, I'm dying! 🤣 But I though the same about perspective; north, south, east and west are so unspecific terms to name a region.
@lamebubblesflysohigh
@lamebubblesflysohigh 7 ай бұрын
Average German, Slovak, Austrian, Slovene, Czech, Pole, Swiss and Northern Italian have much more in common historically, culturally, geographically and even linguistically to some extend than they have individually with Greeks, Fins, Norwegians or Spaniards. Basically HRE (Holly Roman Empire) and adjacent powers (Austro-Hungarian empire, core of Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth) is a distinct region. In my opinion Western Europe ends on Rhine where Central Europe begins and continues all the way to eastern margins of Carpathians in Ukraine where Eastern Europe begins.
@rajuskosalvador3141
@rajuskosalvador3141 5 ай бұрын
If you think the Swiss and northern Italians have more to do with Slovakia than Russia or Ukraine does you need to check into a mental hospital
@chrishieke1261
@chrishieke1261 4 ай бұрын
Hmm. I must contradict Kraut: the term "Eastern Europe" has a deep founded cultural meaning - Eastern Europe is everything east of the German and Austro-Hungarian borders. The Czech Republic ('Bohemia') was an integral part of the former HRE is clearly Middle/Central Europe, as is Hungary (which is also kind of its own thing altogether), Slowenia and the parts of Poland that were German (Silesia, Pommerania, West Prussia and East Prussia). Arguably the western parts of the historic Poland (=non German parts) including Warsaw can be considered as the most Middle/Central European part of Eastern Europe. The Baltics are not part of Middle/Central Europe, although their large cities with strong western influences (ex Hanseatic League) are some sort of outposts. It is interesting however, that the cultural/political/economical elites in "Eastern Europe" have been "Western/Central European" for centuries. A Polish aristocrat had much more in common with its German or French counterparts, as have the artists (think of Chopin, Dostojevsky, Tschaikowsky) and scientists. But those elites do not represent the whole nations and can not change the character of that nation.
@AndreyFedorov1992
@AndreyFedorov1992 6 күн бұрын
What about south and north borders?
@imcbocian
@imcbocian 8 ай бұрын
As a Pole, that's fine. I'm ok with living in fairytale, or even not existing at all. As long as I don't have to live in Russki Mir
@kisfekete
@kisfekete 8 ай бұрын
As a Hungarian who supports Ukraine I absolutely agree.
@Jalex92
@Jalex92 8 ай бұрын
As an American I think Poland is a kick ass country. Winged Hussars are basass.
@bunyaminyilmaz3798
@bunyaminyilmaz3798 8 ай бұрын
@@Jalex92 As a amrican :) the good dudes
@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462
@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 8 ай бұрын
Good luck with that
@iustinmuresanu5616
@iustinmuresanu5616 8 ай бұрын
Amen from Romania, brother!
@1paris1942
@1paris1942 8 ай бұрын
What I learned from this video is that I TOTALLY want to be a 16th century Polish vampire.
@B1gLupu
@B1gLupu 8 ай бұрын
Reasonable
@SirAntoniousBlock
@SirAntoniousBlock 8 ай бұрын
A Russian in other words....
@LMB222
@LMB222 8 ай бұрын
You want to get my wife pregnant? Fair enough 😂
@lookash3048
@lookash3048 8 ай бұрын
No, you want, you would be stuck on the earth until Doomsday and become demon exhausted by too long existence.
@csonracsonra9962
@csonracsonra9962 7 ай бұрын
😂​@@SirAntoniousBlock
@ribbon8677
@ribbon8677 8 ай бұрын
My mental image of "Eastern Europe" collapsed completely when I travelled to Poland with my high school on an Erasmus+ project: we had to make a simple cardboard representation of some buildings and while we, the Italian group, used (poorly made) balsa wood, the Czechs and Polish came with 3D printed 100% true-to-real-life models. From then on my view completely changed on the region and that's why I think that Erasmus projects are the most useful long-term investments of the EU on its citizens. You can't learn everything about a country from abroad, you need to visit it.
@LMB222
@LMB222 8 ай бұрын
That's why I'll defend Erasmus to death, even though I'm very aware that "Erasmus Orgasmus" is a thing.
@tree9215
@tree9215 8 ай бұрын
I live in an apartment with 3 rooms that often get rented out to Erasmus students. It's been one of the most enriching experiences in my live and I've made a lot of friends through it.
@Alex-xt7yb
@Alex-xt7yb 7 ай бұрын
That's what Erasmus is all about.
@LibertyDino
@LibertyDino 2 ай бұрын
If you want to see a degrading country Germany is very good at it rn
@DirtPerson
@DirtPerson 6 ай бұрын
I remember going to Krakow back in 2015. I'm an American, and that was the first time I'd set foot on continental Europe. I was absolutely astounded by the beauty of the city and the quality of the beer! It completely changed my understanding of "Eastern Europe."
@Bear-c4x
@Bear-c4x 3 ай бұрын
No. You’re Canadian. Not American.
@ngeezy
@ngeezy 8 ай бұрын
No one wants to be Eastern European because the label denotes a place of low quality but in reality a lot of these countries are great places with lovely people!
@Dommifax
@Dommifax 8 ай бұрын
This - I feel that since the 90s it has most often been used to describe the one thing they have in common: being post soviet and thus being economically devastated - which coloured the term until it always carried this slight sence of soviet-caused-decay with it even when not explicitly stated and even now when it does not apply at all to many of them anymore
@Sunrah
@Sunrah 8 ай бұрын
​@@Dommifax well still, we are very underdeveloped compared to western europe. there's a reason me and a lot of my countrymen live in the west, it has to do with economic opportunity. yes it's not as bad as it was but it's also not good enough to go home.
@RTDice11
@RTDice11 8 ай бұрын
Tbh, I wonder if the collective zeitgeist thinks the "Baltics" are the same as the "Balkans"
@jamalisujang2712
@jamalisujang2712 8 ай бұрын
I once met a Slovenian tourist in my shop. His tire was flat. He is surprised I don't overcharge him. 😂😂😂
@JABN97
@JABN97 8 ай бұрын
@@Dommifaxpersonally I, having been born in 1997, always considered the post-communism to be more about post-Sovjet politics & a still lingering political culture of corruption, which caused the economic difference. With the fading of that corruption in many states comes an equality of economy. If I’d had to guess I would say it would take about 30 years (a generation) of dedicated labor to fix that culture. And for most countries (outside at a guess: Russia Belarusia Serbia Romania Hungary Bulgaria and Ukraine) that is roughly correct.
@wauwau4896
@wauwau4896 8 ай бұрын
“PAPER FOR THE PAPER GOD” As a German, I cannot emphasize enough how accurately this describes the German bureaucracy...
@noodleppoodle
@noodleppoodle 7 ай бұрын
Why don't you guys... I don't know... change it??
@Enyavar1
@Enyavar1 7 ай бұрын
@@noodleppoodle change it?? Are you aware that if you want to obsolete for example form C12, this requires form A39, printed in triplicate, then scanned into a PDF then hand-signed by your superiors who then need to upload it to three different government agencies who will each have a 50% likelyhood to DENY the request!
@FAMI-ep9ok
@FAMI-ep9ok 7 ай бұрын
​@@Enyavar1form A39?! Wasn't it form A38? Did I miss something important or did the official "office of bureaucratic nonsense" forget to update us on changes AGAIN?!
@domexn4
@domexn4 7 ай бұрын
@@noodleppoodle Any changes to the bureaucracy would require it going through the bureaucracy first.
@dano4996
@dano4996 7 ай бұрын
It is a great description of France too.
@doctorson7026
@doctorson7026 7 ай бұрын
As a Pole, I have never even thought about Euro 2012 being turning point for perception of ex-communist block nation for rest of europe, thats intresting observation
@DMasterplanL
@DMasterplanL 7 ай бұрын
Because it wasn't.
@RafaelW8
@RafaelW8 7 ай бұрын
@@DMasterplanL It was.
@dmitrykirillov539
@dmitrykirillov539 7 ай бұрын
@@RafaelW8 It wasn't. It happened in 2006
@cleightorres3841
@cleightorres3841 6 ай бұрын
the german guy is lying why? i dont know but you are correct
@Historia-sc1pi
@Historia-sc1pi 6 ай бұрын
I don't know anything like enough to dispute Kraut's proposition there but it seemed to me like a something a better-informed viewer may have found hysterical.
@Kyarago
@Kyarago 7 ай бұрын
Pre WW2 Lithuania was very similar to Denmark in terms of population and economy. The staggering difference in 1991 showed just how much damage the soviet rule did to the region.
@hanshoffmann2582
@hanshoffmann2582 7 ай бұрын
@@basanttyagi7516 who do you blame for North Korea being 60 times poorer in terms of GDP than South Korea, despite being richer before the Russians took over? IDK about Lithuania, but Latvia and Estonia was almost equal to Nordic states and richer than almost all other countries in the World at that time..
@akaHius
@akaHius 7 ай бұрын
@@hanshoffmann2582 > before the Russians took over... What Russians? xD > who do you blame O'coz fucking US and their pack of western curs, who imposed a million sanctions on the DPRK, preventing it from developing and trading
@robrob9050
@robrob9050 7 ай бұрын
​@@hanshoffmann2582hmmm Korea was never rich? Neither rich or advanced, maybe 500 years ago?
@bobstone0
@bobstone0 7 ай бұрын
@@robrob9050 North Korea in the 1950s was more industrialized than the agricultural South. But the hard work of the South Koreans and American protection created a technological power out of nothing. However, the north stopped in time for 70 years.
@robrob9050
@robrob9050 7 ай бұрын
@@bobstone0 I had pleasure in 1988 to see Samsung TV in the neighbourhood shop, the first SK product in my life. Nothing fancy, they put flat glass in front to imitate Trinitron 😆, in nutshell not different from local TV companies who did not bother with these tricks. Sony was the king, eh? These electronics companies were overprotected by high import tariffs and today almost 40 years later are distant memory and the dust. While Samsung is now the biggest electronics producer in the world. Things are changing aren't they?
@lilconfused686
@lilconfused686 8 ай бұрын
Even before watching the video I will admit that as a Lithuanian, I do ponder my existence on a frequent basis
@karl1ok
@karl1ok 8 ай бұрын
A most lithuanian exercise alltogether
@munkeefinkelbeen5395
@munkeefinkelbeen5395 8 ай бұрын
You *do* exist. You *are* valid. ....wait.....why are you disappearing? Noooooooo!
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 8 ай бұрын
Well when are inbewteen sweden and Russia, their a lot things you question
@NEO-jb7bb
@NEO-jb7bb 8 ай бұрын
A lot of Lithuanians seem to do that
@LidojosaisJanis
@LidojosaisJanis 8 ай бұрын
Same, Latvian bralukai here xd
@jak00bspyr72
@jak00bspyr72 8 ай бұрын
"Poland is in Eastern Europe" Poles: *visible anger*
@Rodzyniastyyyy
@Rodzyniastyyyy 8 ай бұрын
Wait until you see the Czechs.
@Tablis0
@Tablis0 8 ай бұрын
Oh yes, I'm Polish, I can confirm. To this day I remember article from 2015, where they called CD Projekt (developers of Witcher series) "eastern European studio".
@Gnefitisis
@Gnefitisis 8 ай бұрын
No. Im proud.
@golonkowiczpl
@golonkowiczpl 8 ай бұрын
You can see clear difference in Poland betwean polish old german lands (western civilisation) and polish old russian lands (eastern)
@supratimdipta1585
@supratimdipta1585 8 ай бұрын
Yes, I also saw this in a gaming community 😂
@RavignonCh
@RavignonCh 8 ай бұрын
The biggest weakness of "Eastern Europe" is that it's an exonym; a term used by people outside of a community to describe the community. There is only so much you can learn about a group of people without their input - and most social sciences are moving away from that clinical, outsider analysis of societies. Ultimately this is why I'm in favour of the removal of Soviet statues as a leftist, even if people do silly things sometimes like when a Ukrainian artist retrofitted a statue of Lenin into Darth Vader. By the end of the day, the Ukrainians are saying they do not want to be understood as "post-Soviet" in the same way the first Korean Republics did not want to live to be "post-Japanese."
@In_Our_Timeline
@In_Our_Timeline 8 ай бұрын
It is not a kraut video, if it doesn't have you in comment section 😂
@ReySchultz121
@ReySchultz121 8 ай бұрын
I wish to here your Franco-Mexican voice.
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 8 ай бұрын
Well to me even as a American leftist (more on the center left), I see the lenin and Stalin statues the same way as Confederate statues, it better they don't exist and should as best be put in a museum as reminded of the bad past.
@snomcultist189
@snomcultist189 8 ай бұрын
As he says, it is a “fremdbestimmung”
@munkeefinkelbeen5395
@munkeefinkelbeen5395 8 ай бұрын
@@starmaker75 ya know? Honestly since the BLM protests, I've been rethinking the use of statues as a whole. I'm a lover of art, but it's weird to glorify someone in statue from for one or two good things the public perceives they did, and in spite of a career of what are now, or were already then, misdeeds. Like statues of Juan de Oñate in the Southwest. He "founded" New Mexico, but committed a slew of atrocities to the Native population.
@Martlns
@Martlns 7 ай бұрын
As someone from Latvia, the term Eastern Europe is straight up derogatory and we absolutely hate it.
@KiloOne
@KiloOne 7 ай бұрын
I don’t like being called Eastern European, but I hate being called Russian even more
@MrGleboPedo
@MrGleboPedo 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, term Western Russia suits more 😄
@zelena.pupavka
@zelena.pupavka 6 ай бұрын
Wait... I thought Latvia was geographically Eastern European
@zepter00
@zepter00 6 ай бұрын
@@zelena.pupavka no. Eastern border of Europe is in Ural mountains. Ural mountins are from Latvia as far on east as Spain in on west.
@jonson856
@jonson856 6 ай бұрын
@examplenameyoutube Which alternative term would you prefer?
@Zman44444
@Zman44444 8 ай бұрын
As a Latvian, I can say the country ball being smooshed is a vibe. We’re all slightly squished here.
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 7 ай бұрын
As a Pole, I think of Lithuania and Latvia as a family. People of the entire Europe I treat as my friends. I was treated very well in every European country I visited. Belarus included. And I love each of those countries. I visited the USSR when I was a small kid. I have never been to Russia. ps. As of now, I don't find myself visiting Russia anytime soon.
@benas_st
@benas_st 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@HanSolo__ I'd say our family ties are quite complicated, but in the 21st century Poland is definitely family as is Latvia. let's hope one day Belarus as a country can be part of that family too...
@LordDamianus
@LordDamianus 7 ай бұрын
@@benas_st I'm another Pole and I feel closer to Czechia and Slovakia. Lithuania and especially Latvia and Estonia are too different countries from Poland.
@Serratus648
@Serratus648 7 ай бұрын
@@benas_st Well, we (Poles) did accidentally f****-up that relationship we had with Czechs and Slovaks, Lithuanians and Ukrainians. But here's hoping it will mend in time.
@tkg__
@tkg__ 7 ай бұрын
@@Serratus648 we messed up with all our neighbours, especially in the early 1900s. That was one of the reasons why Poland was so isolated in 1920 and 1939.
@Pioneer_DE
@Pioneer_DE 8 ай бұрын
Rip to all Eastern Europeans who realized they aren't real.
@karl1ok
@karl1ok 8 ай бұрын
The rapture came early to them
@RweebRommel
@RweebRommel 8 ай бұрын
"Mr Kraut, I don't feel so good..." *proceeds to turn into ash*
@yarovitek
@yarovitek 8 ай бұрын
Literally nobody self-identifies as "Eastern Europeans". So yes, they aren't real.
@poltergeist69
@poltergeist69 8 ай бұрын
iam currently disolving. help
@scasino9358
@scasino9358 8 ай бұрын
all 0 of them. Because like Kraut says, people here don't consider themselves "eastern european".
@apinakapina
@apinakapina 7 ай бұрын
As a Finn the term Eastern Europe has intuitively been always sort of weird to me. We consider ourselves Nordic and Western, but if you check the map there's only like parts of Ukraine and Belarussia that are more to the East than Finland before we hit the Mother Russia. It's a political term as much as Finlandization was a political phenomenon driven by our huge neighbour.
@octavianpopescu4776
@octavianpopescu4776 7 ай бұрын
Why would it be weird? It depends on the position relative to the Iron Curtain. Finland was on the happy, free side of the Iron Curtain, so that would be the West. We were on the sad, Gulag side, so we're in the East.
@apinakapina
@apinakapina 7 ай бұрын
@@octavianpopescu4776 Yeah, you're right about that. And Finland stayed free by happenstance more than anything... but still we were relatively free in that sense. But talking about my own headspace - I get the political stuff, but still using "East" instead of like "Soviet" seems weird to me.
@octavianpopescu4776
@octavianpopescu4776 7 ай бұрын
@@apinakapina Well, not all of us were part of the USSR. My country, Romania, was never part of it, so East is still the best word to use.
@romantroshkin3142
@romantroshkin3142 3 ай бұрын
Belarus*
@Kniazhnami
@Kniazhnami 3 ай бұрын
Belarus is correct
@salamanders6969
@salamanders6969 7 ай бұрын
As a citizen of former Yugoslavia the single best thing back then was the fact that YU was never subjugated by tyrannical Soviets. I’m so happy that I grew up in the 70’s and the 80’s in the society that was culturally oriented towards the West and that we were free to travel anywhere.
@NeoCavo
@NeoCavo 8 ай бұрын
Paper for the Paper God fucking killed me and I've never even been to Germany.
@Yora21
@Yora21 7 ай бұрын
I am from Germany. And it is true.
@sapheiron
@sapheiron 7 ай бұрын
@@Yora21 Seconded!
@Viruseek1337
@Viruseek1337 7 ай бұрын
I am from Poland, and while some of my friends are or have been working in Germany, all of them spoke of unspeakable horrors one has to endure to buy a can of coke
@Otek_Nr.3
@Otek_Nr.3 7 ай бұрын
INK FOR THE INK THRONE!
@antonnurwald5700
@antonnurwald5700 7 ай бұрын
​@@Viruseek1337when you walk into a shop or a cafe, invariably you will see either a sign "no cards, cash only" or "no cash, cards only" and you have no way if knowing beforehand which one it is.
@evilnet1
@evilnet1 7 ай бұрын
“Eastern Europe isn’t Real” Australia and New Zealand: “first time?”
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 8 ай бұрын
Fun fact: the Polish word "upiór" and related words in other Slavic languages, which are the origin of "vampire" (edit: including the Serbian "вампир", which seems to be most directly related to it), are themselves perhaps of Turkic origin. Meanwhile, the word "vampire" came back to Polish as "wampir". An average Polish speaker might not even realize the connection between "upiór" and "wampir".
@Hadar1991
@Hadar1991 8 ай бұрын
Isn't "wąpierz" an original Polish word for a vampire?
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 8 ай бұрын
@@Hadar1991 Kinda, an alternative term/synonym.
@Beefy_B0y330
@Beefy_B0y330 8 ай бұрын
In English it's borrowed from the Serbian word vampir
@Gratell
@Gratell 8 ай бұрын
@@Artur_M. zawsze udaje mi się ciebie gdzieś w głębi komentarzy znaleźć, z ciekawymi informacjami - jest pan wszędzie xD
@fulopmeszaros5330
@fulopmeszaros5330 8 ай бұрын
I would like a participation trophy for hungary, as the leader of draco knights, dracula was also an inspiration for the first western vampire (and not vlad the impaler, who didnt kill traitors at night, didnt have a castle in transylvania, etc)
@robert4598
@robert4598 3 ай бұрын
Ich habe deinen Kanal gerade erste entdeckt, aber ich merke, dass da viel Herzblut und Bildung drinstecken. Die Infos scheinen Quellen zu haben und es ist sehr schön gemacht. Vielen Dank!
@guidomista5738
@guidomista5738 8 ай бұрын
I'm from Eastern Europe from Ukraine, I'm fine with whatever geographic term people are calling me and my nation as long as they don't call me russian
@Hk7762Tube
@Hk7762Tube 8 ай бұрын
Hello my ruskay friend.
@guidomista5738
@guidomista5738 8 ай бұрын
@@Hk7762Tube *rusgay
@megaponful
@megaponful 8 ай бұрын
Hello my Russian friend
@SirAntoniousBlock
@SirAntoniousBlock 8 ай бұрын
Russians are basically Polish vampires then.
@antichraldo
@antichraldo 8 ай бұрын
Amen. Being a Russian is rather a medical issue than nationality thing aniway
@starzainia
@starzainia 8 ай бұрын
As someone from Eastern Europe, I can confirm I don't exist.
@Unwavering_Resolve
@Unwavering_Resolve 8 ай бұрын
As someone from Eastern Europe, I can confirm that you don't exist.
@daseinzigwahrem
@daseinzigwahrem 8 ай бұрын
My condolences.
@aaroncfriedman
@aaroncfriedman 8 ай бұрын
Hahahaha classic Eastern European humor
@bobkerman7978
@bobkerman7978 8 ай бұрын
same lmao
@NeistH2o
@NeistH2o 8 ай бұрын
😂
@MiSt3300
@MiSt3300 8 ай бұрын
Kraut, as a Pole 🇵🇱 I thank you so much for this video. The region between Germany and Russia has always been neglected and ignored, and painfully lumped together as just "eastern Europe", or more honestly: backwater, a land to divide between the "big" players. People don't realise that it is precisely the fact that these smaller countries are independent that makes Europe a more stable and democratic place. This video is very important, so that people finally realise this.
@profet1385
@profet1385 8 ай бұрын
As a Pole, I support this comment wholeheartedly.
@DrunkChaosMind
@DrunkChaosMind 8 ай бұрын
Smutna prawda
@ForOne814
@ForOne814 8 ай бұрын
>more stable place >literally plagued by wars and genocides since the 90s.
@MiSt3300
@MiSt3300 8 ай бұрын
@@ForOne814 Europe plagued by wars and genocides?
@ForOne814
@ForOne814 8 ай бұрын
@@MiSt3300 Eastern Europe.
@atanasarnaudov8253
@atanasarnaudov8253 7 ай бұрын
Bulgarian here, I never thought the term to be derogatory, but I believe the stereotypes to be somewhat hurtful. I have heard on many cases that westerners are surprised how European our cities look. Well we didn’t live in caves before 1990. Our city centers were designed by Czech, Austrian and German architects and their Bulgarian students. Communism was very much an abomination, one that cut us off our rightful place in Europe for 50 years.
@BaronVonMott
@BaronVonMott 8 ай бұрын
Polish vampires being essentially drunken undead hooligans might be the best bit of old folklore I've ever heard! 😂
@Hargrovius
@Hargrovius 8 ай бұрын
Kraut is not really correct here. "Upiór", the creature he described, is directly translated as "wraith" into english. Inspiration for modern vampires absolutely came from the Balkans.
@mrsmartypants4541
@mrsmartypants4541 7 ай бұрын
To be fair, there are vampires in polish folklore, they are even called "Wąpierz", and they did in fact pray on humans. There are just so many creatures created by improper burial or other practices, that sometimes it can be hard to find the creature you're looking foor among them.
@annafirnen4815
@annafirnen4815 7 ай бұрын
​@@Hargrovius as far as I know scholars believe that words wąpierz and upiór HAVE same root and relate to the same creature, those words were used just in different regions. You are thinking about modern meaning of Upiór (probably because of the translation of "Phantom of the opera" to "Upiór w operze") but if you read about the accounts in mythology they used to be essentially vampires.
@paulinagabrys8874
@paulinagabrys8874 7 ай бұрын
Nie no ale polskie upiory z folkloru nie są wampirami z popkultury. Upiór był kimś pomiędzy szamanem, wiedźminem (czyli żywym upiorem zwalczającym niebezpieczne martwe upiory) i chuliganem robiącym zadymę na wsi. Ale to wszystko jest na tyle płynne i zależne od regionu i czasów, że ciężko tak jednoznacznie określić kim jest upiór
@BagMonster
@BagMonster 8 ай бұрын
Putin: Russia is the rightful master of Eastern Europe! Kraut: What Eastern Europe? Putin: *Dissolves into dust Thanos style*
@Gala-yp8nx
@Gala-yp8nx 8 ай бұрын
Eastern Europe is a politically apathetic term used by Westerners.
@stargazerorion9209
@stargazerorion9209 8 ай бұрын
When exactly Putin said that?
@ObsTho-100
@ObsTho-100 8 ай бұрын
@@Gala-yp8nx bro never looked at a map
@HelixTarot
@HelixTarot 8 ай бұрын
Summon the werewolves!!😅
@ObsTho-100
@ObsTho-100 8 ай бұрын
@@HelixTarot
@lmao_nope
@lmao_nope 8 ай бұрын
"The dream of getting Russia to fuck the hell off is the only thing that makes Eastern Europe real" is a very bold thesis. As a Pole, I think I agree. Though we are OBVIOUSLY Central Europe, not Eastern Europe.
@Whatshisname346
@Whatshisname346 8 ай бұрын
With, dare I say it, kick ass vampires.
@appa609
@appa609 8 ай бұрын
Finland would be Eastern Europe then. And bulgaria wouldn't. For the Balkans you must replace Soviet trauma with Ottoman
@trillionbones89
@trillionbones89 8 ай бұрын
​​@@appa609the Balkans terrorized themselves quite well long after the ottoman empire was no longer a factor, and that's 100+years And Finland is in northern Europe. East West is not the only axis you can divide Europe in.
@DoriZuza
@DoriZuza 8 ай бұрын
@@Whatshisname346The vampires are in Romania, not Poland. (If there are any Polish ones as well, please let me know) Later edit: I only now got to that part of the video. I’ve learned something new.
@thurbine2411
@thurbine2411 8 ай бұрын
@@DoriZuzadidn’t you watch this video?
@Borsuk3344
@Borsuk3344 7 ай бұрын
As a Pole I approve of the fact that polandball always looks angry.
@agnieszkazawiejska
@agnieszkazawiejska 4 ай бұрын
not always, e.g. it's "lol"-ing so cutely when seeing a Western Marxist
@sowiwiody3681
@sowiwiody3681 3 ай бұрын
Angry whenever Russia is nearby 😂
@tomekes6584
@tomekes6584 3 ай бұрын
Its just a Polish Smile 😁🤨😐
@ALatvian
@ALatvian 8 ай бұрын
As a 16 year old Latvian, I think that the concept of eastern europe doesn't really exist in my generation. Having travelled to Estonia, Lithuania, Poland, Chechia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria, I see these countries as unique and different NOT as one. Sure, there is some connection felt between these places but it is more from a historical than cultural or geographical view. I believe it is because me and my peers have been born in free countries with established independent identities. Also, internet is a major factor for easy consumption of worldly news.
@backwardsbandit8094
@backwardsbandit8094 8 ай бұрын
All of Europe has crossover in between nations. This goes for Africa, Oceania, Asia and the Americas as well. Nothing worthy of note tbh
@LMB222
@LMB222 8 ай бұрын
You have travelled. That is *the* difference. Do you want to know the %% of French and Germans who never left their region, and perhaps have never even met an "Eastern European"?
@margin606
@margin606 8 ай бұрын
The concept of Eastern Europe is not dependent on you, as an individual, liking or accepting it. The term (obviously) existed long before you arrived on the planet and will, in all likelihood exist after you have left it. It is your prerogative not to use the term if you so choose, but you are certainly not in a position to wish it away.
@tommeiner9983
@tommeiner9983 7 ай бұрын
Weird point to make. I mean we still call Western European countries Western European, despite the fact that they're also very different from each other.
@bro0ther
@bro0ther 6 ай бұрын
16 y.o. Ukrainian here. I've been to Latvia and it is NOT Eastern Europe. Baltic countries have much more in common with Nordic countries, but I still think that Baltic is unique as a region
@theknightskyisi
@theknightskyisi 8 ай бұрын
The freeze frame of the singer drawing a tractor pulling tanks (in black and white) gave me absolute chills.
@victoriaporter6586
@victoriaporter6586 7 ай бұрын
Wdym
@DiskusGames
@DiskusGames 8 ай бұрын
I live in the far east of Germany, close to the borders of Poland and Czechia. I never understood why these two countries in particular were considered Easters European. I always felt a closer cultural connection to Czechs and Poles than to Italians, French of British people. Sure the whole ex-socialist nation part probably has something to do with it, but it's probably more noticable for me in Saxony, since quite alot of our town/city names have slavic origins, as do some words in our local dialect. Specifically Sorbian origins.
@sakakaka4064
@sakakaka4064 8 ай бұрын
As a Pole, I also feel closer to Germans (more to Austrians tbh but I'm from Krakow so maybe that's why?) than to, let's say, Lithuanians, Romanians or Dutch.
@oiytd5wugho
@oiytd5wugho 8 ай бұрын
Our peoples are joined by the Salzgurke
@cosmosyn2514
@cosmosyn2514 8 ай бұрын
imo the main qualifier of “central europe” is for a nation to have been at ruled by germans for a significant period of time.
@oiytd5wugho
@oiytd5wugho 8 ай бұрын
@@cosmosyn2514 so, like, Namibia is central europe?
@RenéHanzl
@RenéHanzl 8 ай бұрын
Saxony "sasíci" is a very special case, You guys were pretty much always our (Bohemian) allies for hundreds and hundreds of years. Before Prussia pretty much forced the union there were even talks about joining the two countries, at the time we had more in common than you did with the rest of the germans. For me as a western czech i feel much more closer to Saxony/Austria than even the Slovaks, We share a hell of a lot of history with Germany and we were pretty much one country for like 400 years with Austria, Slovakia on the other hand? like 70 during Great Moravia and then it was just hungary for pretty much a 1000, also one of the reasons Czechoslovakia was doomed to fail from the start and we should have stayed with austria instead, apart from language we have barely anything in common.
@lilyg47474
@lilyg47474 7 ай бұрын
As a British person, I would happily do away with the concept of 'Eastern Europe' for no other reason than to grant all of these countries their own sense of identity back. I want to learn more about Ukraine, Poland, Croatia, Slovenia, ect in the same way we all know a lot about Germany, France, Spain ect. What are their foods like? Their clothes? Their games? Their architecture? Who are some celebrated and influential people coming out of these countries? Now yes I can (and do intend) to read up on this for myself. But I never had to make a concentrated effort to learn as much as I have about 'western' European cultures. I would love that to change for the next generations. You cannot really appreciate and respect the culture and identity of a country while it is obscured by this label of 'Eastern Europe' and all the stigma that comes along with it. (in my opinion).
@avitalsheva
@avitalsheva 4 ай бұрын
The problem is that they are not so much different to western Europe
@Gough_Whitlam
@Gough_Whitlam Ай бұрын
I wish more people were like you.
@AndreiZisu
@AndreiZisu 7 ай бұрын
As a Romanian, I never really thought about baggage of the term "eastern European" until now. I am debating with myself whether I still want to use it or not to describe myself. As a millennial, I do find that there is a shared childhood experience with most of the countries under Soviet influence. And I do find thst westerners still have weird Russian fetishes that they still hold on to, even to this day. Perhaps the biggest thing that brings us together today is a hatred of Russia.
@victormarian7889
@victormarian7889 7 ай бұрын
@perseus274 Nope, it's divided, as once Germany was and Koreea still is, because the will of Stalin and Adolf, and the Ribbentropp - Molotov pakt, and because we were ,,free" of the red - army occupation we are Even now under a very pervers and eluding kind of sovietic ocupation/domination !
@carmensavu5122
@carmensavu5122 7 ай бұрын
Except, Russia is Eastern European too. The decades behind the Iron Curtain did make for some sort of shared culture and experiences, the "influence" being so heavy-handed as it was. That's why I think Kraut is wrong when talking about geography, history before Communism, and language families. If the term ever had anything to do with any of that, it doesn't anymore. When I say I'm Eastern European, I mean that I am from an ex-Soviet Block country. I'm used to blocks of flats rather than houses on the ground, and I'm used to high-grade liquor being available at 11pm at the little corner shop, which strikes the Norwegians as very weird. I'm going on 9 years of living in Norway and it has made me even more acutely aware of the "Eastern European" feel because it is quite the contrast going from Norway to any of these countries. I was born and raised in Romania, but when I go to from the North of Norway to Brno, it feels like home (of course, to the Norwegians I have to say that "I'm heading South"). Never been to Russia personally, but a Romanian friend of mine has been there, and she says that aside from the language, it's basically just like Romania, but dialed up to 11. I think there's a cultural reality behind the term "Eastern Europe" and I am not bothered by it. I'm Eastern European, and I own it. Perhaps it won't always be a thing, but I think that's still a few generations away.
@victormarian7889
@victormarian7889 7 ай бұрын
@@carmensavu5122 A small, but not insignificant although, correction: during Ceausescu, that thing that you ' ve mentioned with the alcoohol it was not possible, as it was somehow regulated, you could' nt buy before 10 A.M. and most of the shops would close by 9 - 30, 10 'o clock P.M. It had to do with the resovietization after his death that the usurpatosr lifted any kind of restrictions on alcoohol and smoking to anihilate completelly this country !
@carmensavu5122
@carmensavu5122 7 ай бұрын
@perseus274 Believe that if it helps you feel better, but I disagree. Why not just own it?
@carmensavu5122
@carmensavu5122 7 ай бұрын
@@victormarian7889 I'm not old enough to remember Ceausescu's actual rule, but I'm talking about how these countries developed after the fall of the Iron Curtain. I've been to several, and not in one did I see the restrictions I see in Norway, so to me the restrictions are weird af, the kind of crap I expect to see in Utah.
@lkrnpk
@lkrnpk 7 ай бұрын
Finland is the Eastern European country that got away... And Czechs are the one that did not get away.
@Enyavar1
@Enyavar1 7 ай бұрын
Well, if Czechia had remained in the Holy Roman Empire, then it would be counted as Western European even today. But then there was Austria-Hungary... then the H-guy and the S-guy... much "cleansing" occured... Let's blame the evil dictators of the 20th century for this Fremdbestimmung.
@robrob9050
@robrob9050 7 ай бұрын
Czech IMHO got away cheaper than FIN
@janlanik2660
@janlanik2660 6 ай бұрын
@@Enyavar1 Yes, we Czechs love to have somebody to blame. I'd add 19th century dictators to the list as well, after all it was Napoleon, who dissolved the Holy Roman Empire ;)
@janlanik2660
@janlanik2660 6 ай бұрын
@@robrob9050 Fins paid with their lives, Czechs with their liberty and their spines.
@xeanderman6688
@xeanderman6688 2 ай бұрын
​@@Enyavar1wdym "if it stayed in the HRE"? We did stay in it until it got dissolved The same with the German Confederation.
@trygveplaustrum4634
@trygveplaustrum4634 8 ай бұрын
*The medieval Polish legends of vampires remind me quite vividly of my times playing Dwarf Fortress!* Always give your dwarves proper burials, people.
@Waristheonlyanswer
@Waristheonlyanswer 8 ай бұрын
In the last few years, there were several graves found in Poland where supposed vampires were buried, shackled , staked and with stones, or irons on their chest and cut legs/arms so as to not dig out.
@Hadar1991
@Hadar1991 8 ай бұрын
But it some sense it survived to modern day. While nobody believes in vampires, the idea of having ashes of your deceased relative at home in a urn is just bonkers, furthermore it is a criminal offence for which you can go to prison. Regardless if the body is burned or not (and Catholic Church do not like burning the corpses) you have to bury ALL of the remains in a cemetery. You are not allowed to scatter any amount of the ashes or keep them as part of them in your house. And for me, as a Pole, it is just completely bonkers what Western Europeans thinks is acceptable to do with somebody's remains. ;P
@aravindpallippara1577
@aravindpallippara1577 8 ай бұрын
​@@Hadar1991 Well that comes from us I believe, hindu tradition demands a proper cremation and scattering the ashes in the ocean or a river. That's proper burial for us, can't imagine taking up space forever on a burial ground till eternity and then keep having to discomfort the alive folks with taking care of the burial grounds - the setting most horror films have to visit atleast once. Case in point there are very few myths about beings returning from the dead in Hindu tradition because of that.
@Hadar1991
@Hadar1991 8 ай бұрын
@@aravindpallippara1577 You can bury multiple people in one place. In Polish law it I think that 20 years must past. Tombstone is some sense is optional - if cemetery lacks free space, then abandoned graves will be given to recently deceased.
@Midaspl
@Midaspl 7 ай бұрын
@@Hadar1991 Yes. You don't even buy the space in the cemmetery. You rent it. The rent is over, they remove whatever is there and prepare the ground for a new tennant.
@JannSeb
@JannSeb 7 ай бұрын
Coming from Scandinavia and having lived in Poland and Czechia for 7 years I have noticed that Easter Europe is a derogatory term and more often than making the Poles and Czechs angry, it makes them sad and hopeless that after hundreds of years of wars, colonisation and genocides they need to put up with this. It is simply humiliating to call them by a term coined for the degrading reasons mentioned in the video. The fact that the Soviets have pushed it through in the UN is also horrible because it forever nailed a certain picture of those countries in the minds of us Westerners, namely that they have some connection to the Russians when in fact they were colonised by them and even during the Cold War they were forcibly exploited by Russia. Never in those countries history were they willingly in line with Russia. It always happened through Russian invasions. For me they are Central, Baltic, Finno-Ugric ect. Let them define themself for the first time in their history. Love from Stockholm ❤
@Donax695
@Donax695 7 ай бұрын
nicely put! I think you understand what is going on, hi from the Czech republic
@heart5929
@heart5929 7 ай бұрын
thanks my viking friend
@bobstone0
@bobstone0 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the words of logic. Especially since in my browser, your comment appears right below the comment of a famous Serb (LivingIronicallyinEurope), who records "funny" and "ronical", "black humor" films about the Balkans and Eastern Europe. He said that Eastern Europeans should reclaim the slogan Eastern Europe as if it were a common good. At a time when most people do not want to restore this word but emphasize their own different identity. You noticed well that the most important thing is identification and if someone wants to be different, it means that they are different. It is very easy. If someone wants to be Baltic or Central, that's how it is. Similarly, I hope that no one doubts that Ukrainians are not Russians, but to check it you need to ask Ukrainians and that's it. Just like asking Croats, Bosnians, Slovenians whether they are Serbs/Yugoslavs. If they deny it, it is what it is. Greetings from Poland
@fidenemini111
@fidenemini111 7 ай бұрын
Thank you from Lithuania! You expressed it perfectly!
@baassiia
@baassiia 7 ай бұрын
I mean, whatever. At some point it doesn't matter, we earned our place. I know we are different that 'West' we also different then far East. I live in East Poland and East of EU, it is what it is ;)
@furki7589
@furki7589 8 ай бұрын
„The East. An invention by the West.“ -Unknown
@Giorgi.Koberidze
@Giorgi.Koberidze 8 ай бұрын
As a Georgian, the easternmost European nation, thank you for covering this topic. Most of the people who criticize Eastern Europe have never been to that place. In general, Eastern European cities are safer than some cities elsewhere. Eastern Europe can only be hated by two groups: 1. Putinist Russia, which considers Eastern Europe as its property and does not necessarily want to be a part of the rest of Europe; 2. A pseudo-nationalist raised on Russian propaganda. The Central, Baltic and Eastern European countries such as Lithuania, Estonia, Czechia, Poland, Romania and others form the umbrella of European security and future development.
@quuirrel19_-sz9pj
@quuirrel19_-sz9pj 8 ай бұрын
easternmost european? what about Kazakhstan?
@riperr384
@riperr384 8 ай бұрын
Well there is an elephant in the room as to why their cities are much safer
@TSGC16
@TSGC16 8 ай бұрын
There's a reason many Eastern European cities are so safe compared to Western European cities and i think we all know it
@raguelelnaqum
@raguelelnaqum 8 ай бұрын
@@quuirrel19_-sz9pj Kazakhstan may have what are now considered culturally European minorities such as Russians and the Volga Germans, but in terms of both historical geopolitics and literal geological position it and its surrounding region is and has always been Northwestern Asia. It is east of not only the Anatolian ranges, but the Caucasian and Ural ranges, which means that tectonically speaking it is firmly on the Asian half of the Afro-Eurasian superplate. It is also East of the Caspian Sea, meaning that it is already well past the cutoff point for the the furthest east stretch of Nortwestern Asia, both in terms of historical record and geology once again. The areas once recognized as part of Europe in central Eurasia only stretch as far as Samarkand, and the habitable parts of Kazakhstan are on the opposite side of said historical polity. Thusly, Kazkhstan is firmly an Asian nation. After all, if having a Eurocentric culture or minority was all that qualified a nation to be European geopolitically, nations like Australia or Tunisia or Lebanon would be considered one as well, and at that point the geopositional classification of European becomes meaningless. To be clear this isn't me disparaging Kazakhstan, because I find its history fascinating, but if Siberia isn't considered geopositionally European even though most Uralic peoples within Europe including Sami, Magyars and Finns come from there, than neither can Kazakhstan.
@appa609
@appa609 8 ай бұрын
@@quuirrel19_-sz9pj I assume you're trolling. Right?
@urbanfilh
@urbanfilh 6 ай бұрын
kudos on the great video... 1) I was always confused at school that Sweden and Greece are Western Europe, but Croatia (Yugoslavia) is Eastern Europe. Also, the same applies to the Balkans - Croatia is a Balkan country, and Greece is not (?!)... I even suggested that we send atlases to Westerners because they obviously have problems with the sides of the world 2) do you think that the West treats the Eastern part of Europe because of the events of the Middle Ages when the Westerners got rich by selling the Slavs as slaves to the rest of the world? That since that time they consider us inferior to them? 3) It is unfortunate that because of such an attitude, history is actually Western-centric and completely ignores the contribution of people from Eastern Europe. Tesla, Tolstoy, and Tchaikovsky are the only names Westerners are familiar with. Furthermore, Westerners completely overlook the contribution of countries like Yugoslavia during WWII. 4) in addition, Westerners call us savages - this is rich, isn't it? Especially when it comes from countries that violently conquered almost the entire world with genocides and culturicides.
@Mattatiah95
@Mattatiah95 2 ай бұрын
I believe they also know of Chopin and Skłodowska-Curie, but would like to think they were French.
@Fruzhin5483
@Fruzhin5483 8 ай бұрын
Vampires aren't Polish. They are a slavic folk story and myth and can be found in many Slavic cultures, including Bulgarians, as we have archeological evidence for such burials in the 12th and 13th centuries. It is true however, that the original vampires were much more different than what is currently in people's minds
@I.am.not.in.your.house.or.am.I
@I.am.not.in.your.house.or.am.I 7 ай бұрын
Everyone knows that vampires are just Hungarians on a normal Tuesday.
@HouseOfKung
@HouseOfKung 7 ай бұрын
As an uneducated American, isn’t ‘vampyr’ originally Bosnian?
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 7 ай бұрын
@@HouseOfKung No, the word vampire came to English from the Serbian language, as for the original term for vampire, it probably already existed in Old Slavic. I believe the reconstructed Old Slavic word is "upir" which is the closest to old/middle Polish "upiór".
@paulinagabrys8874
@paulinagabrys8874 7 ай бұрын
W Polsce takie istoty nazwywaliśmy upiorami. Upiór=phantom. Jeszcze za takie upioro-wampiry byli uważani ludzie, którzy urodzili się z zębami czy włosami. Albo miał włosy na klatce piersiowej ale nie pod pachami. Albo to że mówił do siebie to też miałabyć oznaka bycia upiorem ale w rozumieniu szamana, bo miał dwie dusze i one się ze sobą dogadywały. I tak dalej. Generalnie polski upiór był bardziej takim szamanem, który wiedział o wiele więcej o świecie niż zwykli śmiertelnicy i z reguły był postacią pozytywną czy neutralną. Ale w XIX wieki na obecnym pograniczu polsko-ukraińskim wybuchały epidemie i zdarzały się przypadki odkopywania grobów i ćwiartowania zwłok by te upiory nie straszyły i nie sprowadzały katastrof na okolicę.
@itap8880
@itap8880 7 ай бұрын
@@kamilszadkowski8864 There's also a case of the word "wąpierz" being wrongly considered an early version of the word "wampir" (vampire). It actually meant a pillow filling made of feathers.
@DjMaxi005
@DjMaxi005 7 ай бұрын
As a Pole, I love "based Poland" memes, they remind me of an anecdote about the jewish rabbi, who was reading antisemitic press to cheer himself up - he liked reading about his tribe ruling the whole world secretly
@phelanii4444
@phelanii4444 8 ай бұрын
As someone from Bosnia, I think the only thing we can still use "Eastern Europe" for is to say "formerly colonized parts of Europe". Having to fight for our right to be independent is one of the few things that bind us together and I hope that soon even that won't be necessary anymore.
@Kraut_the_Parrot
@Kraut_the_Parrot 8 ай бұрын
Hey. Since I have you here, I'd like to pick your brain a little more. I know that Bosnians get really upset when people ask them about their ethnicity, because for some reason some people are unwilling to accept that Bosnians are Slavs who just happened to convert to Islam a few centuries agao. So you are subject to this entire awful thing of being framed as "Even less than Eastern Europe" in a way. I'd like to ask you if you do not mind, what do you have to say about the misconceptions that others have about you? And how would you define and see yourself as a Bosnian in releation to your neighbors and Europe at large?
@DrIvanBest
@DrIvanBest 8 ай бұрын
​@@Kraut_the_ParrotYou're mixing up Bosnians and Bosniaks.
@JmKrokY
@JmKrokY 8 ай бұрын
​@@Kraut_the_ParrotNot a Bosnian but, Boskians (Muslim Bosnians) are basically Croats and Serbs that converted to Islam and or mixed with Turks. Their country is very divided (despite the population being very similar) and has three main ethnic groups, those being Bosniaks, Croats and Serbs. Basically the whole thing is mostly kept alive by the Dayton agreement. There are definitely plenty of bad stereotypes about us South Slavs and people from the Former Yugoslavia (although it's much less of an issue here in Croatia, however it's still prevalent).
@phelanii4444
@phelanii4444 8 ай бұрын
@@Kraut_the_Parrot I'd say we are very much Slavic still, especially those of us in the borderlands and smaller communities. Bosniaks (as in the Bosnians who converted to Islam when the Ottomans came) used to be heretical Christians believing in a dualistic version of Christianity, where the good God Jesus was creator of the spiritual world and the bad God Satan created all material. They were quite austere, had simple churches and you can still find some of their stone monuments, mostly in the south (stećci). They almost had a crusade called on them by one of the Hungarian kings ('don't remember which one anymore, long time since i had this in school lol) if they did not convert to proper catholicism, so a treaty was signed at Bilino Polje to convert the Bosniaks under Ban Kulin. They mostly resisted through the middle ages because the opulence of both east and west did not suit them. So, once the Ottomans came with this religion that preached and mostly practiced humbleness and prayer and many other similarities to the old heresy, the people accepted it in order to avoid even more persecution. So yes, we are heretical Christian Slavs, converted to Islam, who have had a lot of that Islam washed out by time, distance and communism, who are being made invisible by our neighbours who claim we are Serbs or Croats or some weird mix of the two so they might split our lands and subsume our culture. We have been under the Turks for 400 years, the Austro-Hungarians for 40, under our neighbours for 80 and under the thumb of the Americans for 30 now. We are a colonized people as much as our neighbours themselves are, whether its the ones closes to us, our brethren we share our mother tongues with, or our extended neighbourhood, of the Balkans and our farther Slavic cousins. There are many things wrong with my home country, I cannot even list them all, I have left it and moved to Germany like so many others and it pains me. But I had no future there. My father, my aunts and uncles, my grandparents and their siblings, they stayed there during the war, they fought and died so that I could grow up and live in a country that was finally, after more than 500 years our own once more. But the system is so messed up that in 2021, 26 years after the end of the war, my father and mother drove me out to the bus station with as much home as I could carry in a suitcase and said goodbye to me, because they knew I would never be able to live a good life in the lands they spilled blood, sweat and tears for. So I hate it, and I hate the politicians, and I hate the prejudice against us, and I hate everyone who lays a claim on us. But I also love it, I love the people, and the land, and the memories I have of it, I love my neighbours who are so fundamentally messed up in their own rights, I love the world who gave us a chance to govern ourselves, and took the bastards who harmed us at least partially to court. I wish there could be a future for us, that my grandfather, and my uncle and my 2 great-uncles did not die in vain. That my aunt did not take the shrapnel in her arm to her grave. That my father could sleep at night. That my cousins had a father during the hardest years of their lives. That the messed up kids in my elementary school class had parents who could stay sober enough to see past the pain and to love them. That my great grandfather did not have to be separated from the land and the house he loved, only to die of a broken heart before the war ended. The past is the past is the past and the future is bleak and there is no one left to fight for it. Only old, bitter men, with broken hearts and broken minds who cannot let go of their grudges for long enough to see that a new millennium has dawned upon us and that life goes on and that we can forgive and still not forget. And at the bottom of the box, there is only left hope. That I could ever be seen by my peers in Germany as anything more than a civilised savage, an accentless curio, a model of what kind of enlightened western citizen can be shaped out of the eastern gutter trash. That my parents will live out their years in the home my great-grandfather built, my grandfather built up, my father renovated. That I could return some day to the lands I've inherited as last of my line and work those lands the same as my ancestors and find peace.
@phelanii4444
@phelanii4444 8 ай бұрын
sorry for going off all poetic and shit at the end there, it's almost midnight and I am a bit homesick so I just kinda let the words flow out of me 😅
@jasonquigley2633
@jasonquigley2633 7 ай бұрын
Personally, I think the most sensible way to divide Europe is by the alcohol of choice. That way you have Beer Europe, Wine Europe, Vodka Europe and no alcohol at all Europe.
@ModernForerunner
@ModernForerunner Ай бұрын
where is no alcohol at all Europe?
@Paweł-j3y
@Paweł-j3y Ай бұрын
Holy shit from Friday to Sunday I live in 3 europes
@aw2584
@aw2584 Ай бұрын
​@@ModernForerunner Bosnia
@Martcapt
@Martcapt 8 ай бұрын
I'm Portuguese. You're all Eastern European to me, even though Portugal is probably Eastern Europe to everyone else. It wraps around, in a way.
@TastyChicker1L17
@TastyChicker1L17 7 ай бұрын
Portugal and south Italy are Eastern Europe
@Martcapt
@Martcapt 7 ай бұрын
@@TastyChicker1L17 it's a shame we're Europe at all, really
@noodleppoodle
@noodleppoodle 7 ай бұрын
@@TastyChicker1L17 Please we are way more organised in the actual "Eastern Europe" and it is safe here, although we envy the climate
@franciscoflamenco
@franciscoflamenco 7 ай бұрын
It's a globe after all.
@MarieAvora
@MarieAvora 7 ай бұрын
Bros in French Guyana are laughing at you
@kexcz8276
@kexcz8276 7 ай бұрын
Simply amazing. I had never thought that I would see a foreigner (what I had understood from you, you are from western europe...) to actually know more about this topic than me, a Czech person. Great job, greetings from Czechia ;)
@ottitudes
@ottitudes 6 ай бұрын
Austria of all places! 😂
@Samz_Sii
@Samz_Sii 8 ай бұрын
Kraut: Eastern Europe isn't real, it can't hurt you. Eastern Europe:
@bobkerman7978
@bobkerman7978 8 ай бұрын
Boo!
@avroarchitect1793
@avroarchitect1793 8 ай бұрын
There is one very real way it will continue to exist, the divide between the Western (Latin) Christians (Catholic and Protestant) vs the Eastern (Greek) Christians (Eastern Orthodoxy). Even among non believers the cultural influence of the church in both regions affects the cultures to this day. In the West Modern Atheists basicly took Christian morals and ethics and tried to logic god out of the system (It wont work because the entire thing relies on God's judgement). In the East its the tradition of Eastern Orthodoxy that still defines alot of it.
@roadent217
@roadent217 8 ай бұрын
@@avroarchitect1793 You're redefining Eastern Europe to not have Poland, nor the Baltics in it, nor Hungary. You just shrunk Eastern Europe in about half.
@avroarchitect1793
@avroarchitect1793 8 ай бұрын
@@roadent217 I agree Poland is largely Western and always has been. The Russians and their various attempts of imperial occupation have devistated the whole region. The latter countries are effectively the exclaves of the Latin church. As for redefinition yeah I am, the continent is changing. Everything east of the iron curtain is finally catching up to the rest of the continent, and I am so very happy for them. Now all we need to do is deal with the Russian imperial perogative and we may actually see a longer term peace on the continent.
@NeovanGoth
@NeovanGoth 8 ай бұрын
He he he :D
@janlanik2660
@janlanik2660 6 ай бұрын
As a Czech, this is the most optimistic view of my country, I have ever seen in my life. Our government should hire you to work on their election campaign.
@omppusolttu5799
@omppusolttu5799 7 ай бұрын
Notably be aware that both Werewolves and Vampires *also* have other origins, which could be less or more sinister and there was basically a case of "well those wolf shamans of yours are *basically* werewolves." It's not that there was a case of "Oh there's someone who can turn into a wolf? Lemme steal that concept and consider it very sinister despite your protests."
@nectarinn3
@nectarinn3 7 ай бұрын
Yes, and the base concepts are loose enough that they can be applied to many folkloric myths - there's plenty of wolves turning into men and vice versa in the british isles, and the word lycan comes from a greek story. It's like dragons, you can't pin the origin down from a single culture.
@0ntimetaiment921
@0ntimetaiment921 7 ай бұрын
Exactly. It's the same with food. Basically every other country invented "pizza" because putting sauce and toppings on thin bread is something most countries tired at some point.
@eypandabear7483
@eypandabear7483 6 ай бұрын
There is a nice German word “Schöpfungshöhe”, meaning “height (or level) of creation”. Basically, a measure of how non-obvious an idea is, for areas like patent law. The specific myths may be very detailed and interesting, but if you boil it down to “person turns into wolf”, that’s such an obvious archetype that tracing it to one location is silly.
@fail4lot
@fail4lot 8 ай бұрын
Haha. Your wife is pragnant by not you."It was a vampire Bazyli, I swear! You know we did not give him proper funeral!" :D
@TastyChicker1L17
@TastyChicker1L17 7 ай бұрын
as a very patriotic Czech, I clicked on this video because I saw Czech flag in the thumbnail, and I am glad I did
@ondrejlukas4727
@ondrejlukas4727 7 ай бұрын
same! :D it's just what now caught my attention that the term 'patriotic' is associated with fathers and fatherland, while czech word 'vlastenecký' is associated with the homeland as great mother and belonging to her. Should be more responsible relationship than too many Czechs actually shows up.
@Neoniq41
@Neoniq41 7 ай бұрын
As a patriotic Pole I also feelt the same when seeing a Polish flag
@ondrejlukas4727
@ondrejlukas4727 7 ай бұрын
@@Neoniq41 do you know that Czech and Polish flag are quite similar? (czech is more red while polish is a bit pinky). also Warsaw and Prague has the same flag. It's just a random info, I know. But I love to learn how different and yet similar our countries are :)
@Neoniq41
@Neoniq41 7 ай бұрын
@@ondrejlukas4727 Yeh
@ondrejlukas4727
@ondrejlukas4727 7 ай бұрын
@@Neoniq41 YEH jakože víte, nebo YEH jakože 'klidně si polibte prdel'? :)
@nescumzwei
@nescumzwei 7 ай бұрын
The way that we create social constructs around regions because of an external perceived history is interesting and how they tend to live in people's minds. While at University doing my toilet paper degree (East Asian Studies) one of the things they absolutely tried to hammer out of our heads were the concepts of "East" or "West". While this was mostly to stop the idea of how the "East" was either barbaric or a lands of mystical elf people (my words, not my professors) it was also to stop people from using the concept of a "West". Like Russia seemingly needing the idea of Eastern Europe to justify their conquests, the idea of a "West" is now being used as a beating stick for various Asian states to other most Europeans or folks in the Americas. This othering is mostly noticeable in the Chinese press. If, for example, Poland does something seen as pro-Chinese or has something China positive done, Poland is named individually and and praise is given to Poland as well as how it can "teach the West" a lesson in their relations with other nations. If Poland does something anti-Chinese or a politician in Poland warns against practices by China (governmental or private) then Poland is suddenly part of the faceless, evil "West" and shows how nobody should ever trust a "Westerner". The concepts of Eastern Europe, the West or the East are likely things that will be weeded out with time. Hopefully they will eventually dropped, but then again there are still lots of poorly conceived, Cold-War era terms that have not died despite becoming meaningless. If you think about terms like "Third World" and how much it is still used, there is a chance that Eastern Europe may stick around for a good while longer.
@shittymcrvids3119
@shittymcrvids3119 8 ай бұрын
As a west German, eastern Europe starts in Thuringia
@franciscoflamenco
@franciscoflamenco 7 ай бұрын
Eastern Europe starts in the Rhine and Southern Europe starts in the Seine. Asia starts in the Elbe and Africa in the Pyrenees.
@machitoons
@machitoons 7 ай бұрын
as a east German, I agree
@thisguyishisface370
@thisguyishisface370 7 ай бұрын
@@machitoons as a polish, I say that's where central europe starts
@wojciech9538
@wojciech9538 7 ай бұрын
@@deadlyknights1119 whar so entiriety of central europe is a fraction of germany?
@Alltagundso
@Alltagundso 7 ай бұрын
I love it, when people openly show their stupidity. You don't need to try to convince them, it will be in vain. And yes, I know that was just a joke, but some people really think this way.
@r.j.lombardi111
@r.j.lombardi111 7 ай бұрын
Everyone always says werewolf. But nobody asks howwolf?
@Sett86
@Sett86 7 ай бұрын
Werewolf, werebear, weretiger. Were this shit show of a zoo.
@lamebubblesflysohigh
@lamebubblesflysohigh 7 ай бұрын
whywolf?
@NikitOS-vv4ks
@NikitOS-vv4ks 6 ай бұрын
xd
@jonson856
@jonson856 6 ай бұрын
whenwolf
@andewakare2590
@andewakare2590 5 ай бұрын
xD
@wojciechkowalski8061
@wojciechkowalski8061 8 ай бұрын
> "Some English Guy" implies that Eastern European culture naturally creates subservience to authority My brother in Christ, the nobility of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth literally had the right to an armed rebellion against the monarch that in their opinion infringes on their other rights or interests (the so-called "right to confederation"), and would allegedly on occasion straight up tell their king to get lost in the middle of a Parliament session. One anecdote I have heard depicted the King of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth shouting angrily on a noble criticizing him, asking something along the lines of "who the hell are you to oppose me?", to which the noble's answer was "I am a free citizen, who can elect kings and bring down tyrants."
@sircatangry5864
@sircatangry5864 8 ай бұрын
And if we look at Hetmanate, the entire administration was elected, from lowest town levels to a regiment commander, second in rank after Hetman himself. So authoritarianism in Eastern Europe (excluding russians) is weird arguement.
@paleface953
@paleface953 3 ай бұрын
As much as Russia forced their "culture" to many countries west of it's territory, none of these countries want to be associated with Russia, and that's why Eastern Europe is understood as a derogatory term in our countries. Russia sees itself as a sort of "spiritual people", a savior, a great empire of great people - when in fact most of it's neighbors see Russia as a horrible inhumane civilization of lies, poverty and terror, and most of countries want to be as far away from it as possible - both in geographically and psychologically. Russians often do not understand why are they being "hated" and why there is a "Rusofobia". Just 150 mln. of delusional people.
@bryancomlor1435
@bryancomlor1435 8 ай бұрын
I know it Kraut. You consider the art used in videos like these as "cheap" and cost saving but please use this more its really the best style that made me and i bet alot of others attached to your channel. Just the old Kraut videos. Easy to understand topics and funny countryball art.
@profet1385
@profet1385 8 ай бұрын
Supported.
@hemidas
@hemidas 8 ай бұрын
Mr Kraut, I don't feel so well.
@bachanator
@bachanator 7 ай бұрын
Great and quite volatile reference. I wonder for how long will it last?
@trygveplaustrum4634
@trygveplaustrum4634 8 ай бұрын
7:17 Apparently mainland Europe’s resistance to Russia has been a thing for centuries before the Soviet Union!
@woocashP
@woocashP 8 ай бұрын
Well no fucking shit Sherlock.
@DerDop
@DerDop 8 ай бұрын
Romanians begged for the ottomans to return after they met the Russians
@lmao_nope
@lmao_nope 8 ай бұрын
Everyone outside of Russia has hated Russia for centuries, no news there.
@PLScypion
@PLScypion 8 ай бұрын
Basically every culture in Europe that ever met Russians has this mentality in some capacity. Doesn't matter if it's Muscovy, Russia or Soviets, just different flavours of the same occupant.
@kurolotus4851
@kurolotus4851 8 ай бұрын
Finnish have time periods from 15th century onwards called "wraths". These are historical time periods when russians arrived as hoards to terrorize people for several years at the time. So yea, it started way before Soviet times.😅. So in practice this would mean something like: "...during the Great Wrath, the usage of plough animals decreased while the usage of plough daughters increased", when history books talk about (or refer to) time periods.
@Pafcioxx
@Pafcioxx 7 ай бұрын
I'm from Poland and when on video, you said, that polish guys probably would said, that Poland is a central europe, I was like: it's literally me :D. Great video. Thanks for that and greetings from Poland!
@bro0ther
@bro0ther 6 ай бұрын
Polska 🇵🇱 is "the base" of Europe. I love it
@AchtungAffen
@AchtungAffen 8 ай бұрын
A couple years back my parents took a tour called "Mitteleuropa". They went from Hungary to Hamburg.
@Szyperak
@Szyperak 8 ай бұрын
To be fair, I'm from Poland and in 90s it was literally plagued by car thieves, and stories of people going to Germany to steal cars were nearly a daily occurence 😄
@B1gLupu
@B1gLupu 8 ай бұрын
There was a joke in Finland in the 80s "Come to Estonia, your car is already here"
@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave
@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave 8 ай бұрын
now the car thief, pickpocket, gangster, and prostitute strereotypes all are for romanians. Its like all of europe shoved all its negative streotypes onto romania for some reason
@blueodum
@blueodum 8 ай бұрын
I lived in Poland in the 90s. Confirmed.
@arturodiazcoca7408
@arturodiazcoca7408 8 ай бұрын
You can tell when someone has not lived a certain time.
@Szyperak
@Szyperak 8 ай бұрын
​@@arturodiazcoca7408 Is this directed at me? Because I clearly remember my dads Polonez getting stolen from outside of Smyk in Warsaw while we were shopping for christmas gifts in the 90's, so I'm not sure from where your comment comes from :)
@quwerty8652
@quwerty8652 8 ай бұрын
I really appreciate how you pronounced the name of Krzysztof myszalski. It's visible that you took the effort to learn how to pronounce it correctly well done
@MurdokEXTRA
@MurdokEXTRA 3 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it's Michalski though.
@znail4675
@znail4675 14 күн бұрын
Eastern Europe was never about geography, but a political divide. It was pretty clear and obvious divide during the cold war.
@raumnika5304
@raumnika5304 8 ай бұрын
You can feel every 'eastern european' watching this slowly fade away like they got snapped by Thanos
@FireCandy_Lt
@FireCandy_Lt 8 ай бұрын
as Lithuanian we never were easter europians (thats why we builded monument of geografical center of Europe in our country)
@megaponful
@megaponful 8 ай бұрын
@@FireCandy_Lt You are eastern European and there is nothing wrong about that.
@czuswoe
@czuswoe 8 ай бұрын
I am not fading away. I'm just happy, that I can finally hear the words I waited for since 1989. It gives you kinda warm feeling that your life's work and patience wasn't for nothing.
@danielsurvivor1372
@danielsurvivor1372 8 ай бұрын
17:13 YT Tankies literally seethe every time they see Based Baltic nations or Poland 🗿
@adam346
@adam346 8 ай бұрын
"There are too many stereo-types about the nonexistent Eastern Europe" *later in the video* "The French being The French".
@MisterFoxton
@MisterFoxton 8 ай бұрын
Can't have a Kraut video without gross generalisations and hypocrisy!
@Wertsdsf
@Wertsdsf 8 ай бұрын
​@@MisterFoxtondifferentiated opinions and sources? not in my kraut video!
@B1gLupu
@B1gLupu 8 ай бұрын
@@MisterFoxton French being french isn't exactly a stereotype. They are. very much
@Xalerdane
@Xalerdane 8 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure that even the French would be like “yep.”
@obliviongigan6360
@obliviongigan6360 8 ай бұрын
​​@@B1gLupuHis points are still pretty terrible, like almost no here in Eastern Europe is complain about being called that way except maybe for the Baltics.
@notreallyhere67
@notreallyhere67 7 ай бұрын
As a Pole, I can say that the term "Eastern Europe" is being replaced by "post-Soviet" or "post-communist" in various publications which is irksome in itself. Why? Because those terms tend to be inserted into an article or publication when the topic at hand has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the Soviets or communism. Seeing Poland mentioned as "post-communist" or whatever, makes me feel like my country had no other history to the writer. The terms "post-Soviet" or "post-communist" tend to lump a bunch of countries into the same bag just like the term "Eastern Europe". We don't see Germany being referred to as a "post-National Socialist" country or France as a "post-Vichy Regime" nation. tl;dr 1989 was 35 years ago, stop throwing countries east of the Oder into the "post-Soviet" or "post-communist" bag ffs
@joaquinantonioarteta1205
@joaquinantonioarteta1205 8 ай бұрын
As an American this is very valuable, becuase in school we are only taught about western Europe as having any sort of relevance, as if the only purpose of the east is to be invaded. Teachers usually talk about eastern Europe in a similar way they might about Africa during colonization, just with a slightly less sorrowful tone.
@yukko_parra
@yukko_parra 8 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure in Australia you aren't even taught world geography, and I'm certain that I've never had a lesson on Eastern Europe (that's part of the optional Modern History classes). And definitely minimal mention on slavery (a footnote as part of the conquistadors). i kid you not, we have politicans who thought gaza and palestine were different conflicts (granted they were only politicana for the city level, not federal or state level) thank goodness we have people explaining the nuance of europe
@Daniel-jm7ts
@Daniel-jm7ts 8 ай бұрын
tbh there isnt really a reason why american highschool students should really learn anything about eastern europe besides mabey russian history. History class primarily is there to educate you about your own countries history and the most relevent events that happened around the world, not to teach you about random polish history in the 16t century. I live in Europe and the only thing we learn about other countries is either about north america or if you have the time china/japan because as harsh as it sounds those where hisotricaly the more impactful countries
@catadoxas
@catadoxas 8 ай бұрын
krauts politics are essentially indistinguishable from madleine albrights, nulands, or the neocons in general. it would be fun if he could make a video explaining how his worldview is in any substantial way different from that of dick cheney.
@BuckNut-ck1sl
@BuckNut-ck1sl 8 ай бұрын
In this case I think ignorance is better than trash kraut is spewing.
@MrDahamsta
@MrDahamsta 7 ай бұрын
Writing as someone from the Baltics here. I can only truly speak for myself and I am not the most historically learnt guy, but I think the concept of the post soviet states (so the concept of what usually is defined as Eastern Europe, not necessarily the term) has had some value as it creates a bond between the countries that suffered together under the soviet regime (especially as it was fiscally collapsing) and ultimately became free in the 90s. That shared bond then gave way for compassion for each other and vigilance over the potential threat of those days coming again. That being said, those memories have begun to fade and will only fade more as can be seen with how some of those countries have chosen to act today.
@eshinnightrunner6290
@eshinnightrunner6290 7 ай бұрын
corrupt prime ministers and such becoming the lapdogs of russia dont help either, decades of suffering under soviet rule are thrown away at the chance to turn unreasonably rich at the cost of their country eroding away as it becomes a russia friendly dump, which they can just ignore from their perfectly reasonably extragavant palaces and supercars
@Shenaldrac
@Shenaldrac 7 ай бұрын
This is how I always used it myself. Not as "ah some shit-tier nations" but as nations who are former USSR states and have a shared trauma from that, and some shared interests given that Russia still clearly sees them as its rightful property. ESPECIALLY in light of the war in Ukraine. But if there _are_ people using it in a derogatory fashion, fuck them and fuck that.
@karelkieslich6772
@karelkieslich6772 7 ай бұрын
I think there was some rejuvenation of this feeling that you describe after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. I certainly never felt closer in my life to you Balts, Poles, Ukrainians than since Feb 2022. I live in London now and while people here are generally sympathetic to Ukraine, there is a certain level of understanding that I can really only achieve with other “Eastern Europeans”. It was most pronounced during the first month of the invasion: I felt a profound valley between us and west europeans. For them, what was happening in Ukraine was horrible but not personal. They were worried but mostly about Russia’s nuclear threats to them (I know people who left London because they were afraid of nuclear attack). They wanted to help Ukraine in principle but nothing that would affect their well-being (like banning Russian fossil fuels or witdrawing businesses). And they certainly wouldn’t be in favoir of sending any significant weapons. They also didn’t really have this need to constantly talk about it. They didn’t see it as their fight, as attack on them. The victims could be ignored, it was news, horrible news, but it wasn’t felt personally. Whereas with almost any random “East European”, I instantly had this connection. So that’s how I realised that Eastern Europe is in some aspect real, as a space where people understand the reality of being under an empire, especially the Russian/Soviet one. How I would define it beoadly: it’s the space betweem empires - Russian, German, Austrian, Ottoman; and it matters for subdivisions which empire you were subjugated by. But as with all imagined communities, it’s not really about the past but about the future. So what I think defines Eastern Europe in this sense that it’s the areas that don’t want to be subjugated by an empire anymore, that’s their shared dream. According to this logic, the term only makes sense if Russia isn’t included. (And it breaks for people in the two countries that desire an imperial expansion for themselves, Hungary and Serbia. I feel like other Eastern European states don’t feel that sense of belonging with the people in these states who dream of Greater Hungary and Greater Serbia.) I’d be quite happy to use it in this way now. But of course, that also gives you the limitation: it’s not a cultural term. Culturally, there is very little that Latvia, Czechia and Bulgaria would have in common.
@Holsp
@Holsp 8 ай бұрын
I am Czech and I did not know abut the Karel Kryl recording. What a wonderful video!
@3volution636
@3volution636 4 ай бұрын
7:20 "But I'm a good Werewolf! I only eat Russians." 🤣💀
@leuk2389
@leuk2389 7 ай бұрын
I think, as a west European, I have taken much more of a look at the East of Europe because I think the recent war has reminded me more and more how much all of our lives are dependent on eachother for our peace and stability, and how much we should stand shoulder to shoulder with all our European brothers and sisters to defend the things we care about and that many countries fought so hard to achieve especially those neighboring Russia. Self-determination and human freedom. Shedding the idea of eastern Europe as a monolithic cultural group let me see so many distinct and unique peoples and cultures, with their own unique histories. I think everyone in Europe owes it to eachother to get to know eachother and find what we have in common. Especially now. We should have listened to Russia's neighbours when they told us over and over again that Russia is a threat, they knew because they have had to suffer an imperial and expansionist russia for most of recent history. We we're stupid to ignore them. And I think that ignorance is fueled by this idea that our brothers and sister in the east are somehow less than us. They fought hard to take control of their own destinies, and work hard for their freedom and prosperity, they deserve nothing but our respect for it.
@karelkieslich6772
@karelkieslich6772 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for writing this!
@rocknowradio
@rocknowradio 7 ай бұрын
Yes, the west should have listened. Even today is not too late. Although it is almost too late, because now the west have an inner grave threat: the muslims.
@Kniazhnami
@Kniazhnami 3 ай бұрын
@GunnGuardian
@GunnGuardian 8 ай бұрын
I think the moment I realized how useless the term "Eastern Europe" was, was when some people were criticizing Resident Evil 4 for depicting Eastern Europeans as backwards despite the game being set in rural Spain.
@roadent217
@roadent217 8 ай бұрын
Well, Spain isn't far off in GDP per capita from Slovenia, Czechia or Estonia, so...
@cqpp
@cqpp 8 ай бұрын
​@@roadent217Spain is a lot more wealthier than those countries and has been for the entire cold war.
@jajajahodova2001
@jajajahodova2001 8 ай бұрын
@@cqpp well, cold war ended 20 years ago
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 8 ай бұрын
I mean, Portugal is basically just Eastern European again. And people say the world is flat and stuff.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 8 ай бұрын
​@@roadent217 there's a Portuguese subreddit r/portugalblyat that's dedicated to infographics showing Portugal to be falling behind Western Europe on any metric you could think of but weirdly enough matching Eastern Europe.
@carpathianwolf3523
@carpathianwolf3523 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, big misinformation about the accuracy of the folklore surrounding werewolves and vampires. Firstly, the werewolves are pan-european not specifically Baltic, but similar stories can be found in Greece, France, Germany e.t.c. Secondly, vampires are not Polish. The idea of an undead creature rising from it's grave to cause havoc through immoral and insidious behavior is present throughout central and south eastern europe. So vampires are present in Polish folklore, but they aren't unique or inherently Polish.
@christianpetersen163
@christianpetersen163 7 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! I immidiatly picked up on this too. This guy has no idea how to discern facts, apparantly. It's ironic that he's doing the exact fremdbestimmung that he argues "western europe" has done to "eastern europe", by crying ripoff and blatantly overlooking that every country that has wolves has a rich folklore about werewolves, thus denying them the opportunity to define themselves!
@dannyyyXYZ
@dannyyyXYZ 7 ай бұрын
Exactly!​@@christianpetersen163 I thought of this video to be an amazing one....until he said that about vampires and werewolves and ruined everything.
@izpodpolja
@izpodpolja 7 ай бұрын
The name is however taken from a Slavic language that preserved nasals - cmp ukr. "upyr"
@LMB222
@LMB222 7 ай бұрын
The name is. There's only so far you can get into details in one video.
@equos5060
@equos5060 7 ай бұрын
imagine being butthurt over wampire lore origins...
@michaelogden5958
@michaelogden5958 4 ай бұрын
"... people with degrees in Watching Netflix..." 🤣
@ratoh1710
@ratoh1710 8 ай бұрын
On werewolves, your characterization was not quite correct. While I'm sure your characterization of the werewolf in the relevant cultures is correct, your characterization of werewolves in the rest of Europe is not quite correct. Firstly, werewolf legends are very old and were spread throughout Europe for pretty much all of European history. For example, there are multiple ancient Greek stories about people becoming wolves. At the time as you pointed out these stories were mostly neutral or positive about it thinking that it was just a thing that some people were. The change in the image of werewolves did not come from any hatred of Slavic cultures but rather from the influence of Christianity. They claimed that only god had any real power so obviously the people who claimed to be werewolves were heretics. I am sure that there would have been specific hatred for the Slavic werewolf, which fun fact was the same thing as a vampire in certain legends and Dracula used the name about himself in the novel claiming his family was the origin of werewolf myths, but non-slavic werewolf myths were also demonized like the Irish legends of the Werewolves of Ossory.
@aleksandarristic889
@aleksandarristic889 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for sparing me the work of typing this out. Also I would add that the term werewolf was also used as pseudonym for serial killer in German speaking lands, as many people would be accused of being a werewolf when they committed multiple murders. Knowing that Kraut studied in Austria, he might have even come across the childrens game werewolf, in which you try to find the person who murders the villagers at night in their sleep
@pawel198812
@pawel198812 8 ай бұрын
Same can be said about vampires really. Vampire stories have been recorded as far south as Albania and Turkey, and as far north as Russia and Latvia. The word itself seems to be a strange wanderword with unclear etymology
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 8 ай бұрын
​@@pawel198812 I've also read that the "modern" version of the Vampire probably originated more in the Balkans. But alas, it doesn't really matter who had them, it only really matters what inspired *Dracula* and *Carmilla*, because that's what later stories were usually inspired by, and that's largely the mythology in and around Transsilvania.
@fulopmeszaros5330
@fulopmeszaros5330 8 ай бұрын
@@Alias_Anybody please dont say vlad the impaler. Dracula was a hungarian general, Dracula was his position, leading the draco (dragon) knights of king mathias. He murdered rebels and traitors at night, was polite, and had a castle in transylvania. I hate the vlad misconception.
@dannyyyXYZ
@dannyyyXYZ 7 ай бұрын
​@@fulopmeszaros5330lmao this is just Hungarian propaganda
@flameguy3416
@flameguy3416 7 ай бұрын
Eastern Europe is the land that the Red Army occupied for 50 years after Hitler occupied it for 4 years. This universal struggle is what connects an Estonian and a Serbian, a Roma and a Czech.
@GrimKnight12
@GrimKnight12 7 ай бұрын
Ok 😂
@hehenoelo4858
@hehenoelo4858 7 ай бұрын
Serbs are big friends of Russia, so no. They are really different.
@lagjescuni5482
@lagjescuni5482 7 ай бұрын
@perseus274 the Serbs are just an unofficial Russian colony...even the colors of their flag are imposed by the Russians
@lagjescuni5482
@lagjescuni5482 7 ай бұрын
@perseus274 However, there is a worldwide perception that the Serbs, Bulgarians, etc. are Slavic peoples.....when in reality they are mixed at best the original Bulgars were Turkic tribes instead the Serbs ( Serboi) it is thought that were Iranian tribes..
@robrob9050
@robrob9050 7 ай бұрын
@perseus274 Serb has duality script in official use Latin/Cyrillic. Since Greeks are orthodox, they must be EE too? 😆
@conmara6492
@conmara6492 8 ай бұрын
Just a short pedantic note. Werewolves, or Werewolf like creatures, are common fixtures in a number of different cultures in Europe and beyond, they're not strictly Baltic. Ireland for example has a long history of werewolves, although funnily enough the perception of werewolves and the early discourse around them is eerily similar to the baltic version. Perhaps there's a broader and earlier historical link between the two.
@MarcTelang
@MarcTelang 6 ай бұрын
Probably what happened was people combined the older myths of werewolves with Christianity and thought "well only God can transform something so werewolves have to agree with god" and everything went from there
@chewbacca4072
@chewbacca4072 7 ай бұрын
I'm Czech and I think a comment concerning euroskepticism in Czechia I posted in EU made simple's video about Czechia may be relevant, so I copy-paste it here: --------- I'm Czech and I'm strongly pro-EU, but I think I understand the concerns some of my compatriots have. I would say that the general discontent is connected to historical trauma. Any time in the past when we trusted somebody, we were betrayed. This happened many times even before the 20th century, but we got a combo of the West not moving a single muscle to help us. You mentioned 1938, but deslite the guarantees that they will ensure suverenity of the remaining rump state, the west simply decided to not care at all when Germany occupied the rest of Czechoslovakia in 1939. Then there was the Communist coup in 1948 and protests and minor insurrections in 1953, the West didn't move a muscle. In 1968 we were occupied by our allies, yet another betrayal and the West still didn't do anything effective. After the Velvet Revolution, we got to join NATO only through riding the wave with Poland and I am certain that Czechia would not have succeeded on its own, the West was still sceptic. The thing is that we don't generally believe outside powers that they mean well and generally are scared of foreign influences, we got burnt one too many times already (which is why I think that support for Euro is this low). And now anecdotal evidence: When I was in the United Kingdom through Erasmus (pre Brexit), the host family tried to explain to me that they have warm water and plumbing and that I don't have to look for a well to get water. In Austria, the owner of a hostel I was staying in tried to speak with me in broken Russian because we "can't speak anything else than that Russian dialect of yours". One of my friends works in Belgium and she told me that the Belgians see us as basically Russians with some quirks and would rather let us be annexed by Russia than let Belgium get dragged into a conflict. Various other friends have similar stories to tell. I like the idea of the EU, but I feel that most of the Western populace still sees us as a buffer to be sacrificed so they are safe when push comes to shove. This sceptic view is then enforced by opportunist politicians which run on platforms of "we'll show those bureaucrats!" and "we will protect you from them", which creates a feedback loop. I'm sorry but even though I know that things change, we are still seen as a fringe of the EU by many. And unlike others, we don't have the need to entrust others unless we are certain they mean well. And given these experiences, I'm certain that we are far too removed from actually believing fully in this project. My generation may change this, but I don't see it happening in the next 10 years. --------- In short I think that Eastern Europe is not going away and time soon, because the western governments and societies are so ossified in their stance and the situation will change like 100 times over before they start taking anything east of Berlin seriously. I hope it's not the case, but my experience tells me otherwise.
@Gala-yp8nx
@Gala-yp8nx 8 ай бұрын
My family is from north-western Ukraine. I was taught by my grandparents that Eastern Europe refers to the areas of Europe colonized by Russia.
@Aevanne
@Aevanne 8 ай бұрын
@@Mortablunt your fake country is malo, you dingus
@GrayStrider
@GrayStrider 8 ай бұрын
@@Mortablunt you really have a kink on using colonial terms huh
@pax6833
@pax6833 8 ай бұрын
The term "eastern europe" is in fact basically a stand in to refer to "former warsaw pact"
@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462
@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 8 ай бұрын
That's mainly true but there's a few exceptions of communist countries we're still not aligned with the Soviet union. Tito thought Stalin went too far and made Yugoslavia neutral bridge between east and west. Albania's leader decided he didn't go far enough and sided with Mao. While romania's dictator to make enemies of basically everyone with predictable results.
@tomasvrabec1845
@tomasvrabec1845 8 ай бұрын
That's because the Warshaw Pact was modelled on the Imperial concept of Eastern Europe...
@radubaninca7533
@radubaninca7533 8 ай бұрын
I am Romanian. I agree with Kraut on most points with some exceptions. ✅️ What I agree with: 1) Culturally Romanians are latin, I find it very easy to make italian friends and make fun of the quirks in the two languages as well as having a shared heritage to Roman times to further joke and bond on. 2) We do not have as much in common with our neighbouring countries. We have a saying that "We are an island of Latins in a sea of Slavs" +the Magyars. Their languages are very unfamiliar say for a few borrowed words. Eastern Europeans are not alike, especially linguistically as pointed out by Kraut. 🚫 Where I disagree: 3) Despite all the differences, there is a strong tie between us Eastern Europeans. More specifically the shared subjugation our people's have endured throughout most of history. Tough times are best at bringing people toghether, no matter how different. This I can see not only through my bonds with slavic friends over similar stories of how we fought the Russians, Turks and Germans. 4) This united struggle is seen even in the economy and landscape. From the Soviet blocks to the fortresses built to defend from the Ottomans. What makes us similar are the shared influences we have endured from larger neighbours. Conclusion: Eastern Europe is a thing. United not because we are similar but because we share similar struggles. The United States became united only through the similar struggles for independence. The Internarium became a concept, yet again, not because Romanians and Poles are alike as people's, but because we fear the same empires.
@fulopmeszaros5330
@fulopmeszaros5330 8 ай бұрын
I feel you on the different nation in a sea of slavs point, although i hate that many hungarians are very racist towards you. Please give tips how to throw out a xenophobic christofascist dictator.
@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave
@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave 8 ай бұрын
​@@fulopmeszaros5330racist isnt the right word, because romanians and hungarians are the same race. They are simply diffiernt ethnicites
@captainchaoscow
@captainchaoscow 8 ай бұрын
I see that the language is a strong cultural influence. It bonds people together. But "We do not have as much in common with our neighbouring countries. We have a saying that "We are an island of Latins in a sea of Slavs"" is very strange to me. Do you have more in common with Brazilians, Mexicans and Haitians - they speak Portuguese, Spanish and French then Hungarians, Ukrainians and Bulgarians? Aren't the Dacians not related to Thracians - a people group who the Slavic Bulgarians and Bulgars mixed. Haven't been the territory of Romania not part of the first Bulgarian empire? Don't you share Ortodoxy and the first written text in Romanian was in the cyrillic alphabet: the Neacșu's letter? And as you said - there was a lot of history together: fighting of Russians, Turks and Germans. But not only. And I am sure climate, food also leave their traces in the common culture. So I am really confused about this "Island in an Sea" proverb. I know everybody wants to be special - but feels also quite condescending.
@radubaninca7533
@radubaninca7533 8 ай бұрын
@@captainchaoscow It is very true that there are several similarities brought on due to proximity. Ranging from food to language to climate and history. I cannot deny that Ukranian borsh is a key ingredient in most Romanian soups or the similarities in the Hora dances with other neighbors. To analyze this, one can look at the Cyrillic alphabet used in old Romanian and on the most famous of Romanian churches. These are just some of the characteristics borrowed from our Slavic neighbors. Throughout the 19th century, however, Romanians have been distancing themselves away from the east and once closer to the Western Latin countries. We used to be a lot closer to the sea of Slavs, but we decided we want to be a lot closer to the sea of Latins on the other side of the continent. Our accents and words have been drifting towards Italian. Our constitution, monuments, new words and philosophies, even our flag is a near copy to that of the French. So, in response to one of your questions, I would imagine we may have at least common philosophies and ideals in common with the Haitians. With the Slavs, we have a lot in common, but we wish we did not, and sometimes even change our language in order to draw that line.
@Zullyan
@Zullyan 8 ай бұрын
@@radubaninca7533 Borsul ca ingredient e ceva romanesc. Borshtul ucrainean e un tip de ciorba...
@BananLord
@BananLord 3 ай бұрын
TL/DR: As a Romanian, I relate a lot to being a Balkaner and not that much Eastern European. Romania is definitely caught in the middle of "upper eastern Europe" and the countries south of the Danube. But I definitely relate much more with being a Balkaner than an Eastern European, since we share a common history of hardships and wars against both the Ottomans and Russians, the cultures in the Balkans have been influenced by the Turkish and, despite the language barrier, we all like one genre of music aka turbofolk/manele. I have much more stuff in common with the Balkans than with the Eastern Europe label. And we also love traveling south to Bulgaria, Greece and Turkey for summer vacations than visiting any Eastern place north of us.
@Macedonianboss
@Macedonianboss 3 ай бұрын
The guy who made this video knows nothing about geography He didn't put Albania Montenegro Croatia and bosnia as eastern Europe, but he did put the rest of the balkan countries like that, even tho we don't have much in common with eastern Europe
@alastorvulpes
@alastorvulpes 8 ай бұрын
As a Eastern European I use the term cause I think we have a sense of unity amongst us by sharing struggles against foreign imperialists both in the west and Russia.
@wintercoeur
@wintercoeur 7 ай бұрын
If only! It's shameful that Poles are increasingly replacing perfectly serviceable polish words with English terms because they think it makes them look educated and cool. You're literally butchering your own language. As a Pole, I'm embarrassed.
@nicolaim4275
@nicolaim4275 7 ай бұрын
@@wintercoeur That is the same in a lot of countries and is basically a historical constant; people use a secondary language partly to show off their worldliness and partly because they forget a native word and remember the foreign one. French, German and Latin have had this role before English in my country while Akkadian had that role in the Bronze Age 3500 years ago.
@xeanderman6688
@xeanderman6688 8 ай бұрын
Wait, I am not real? Wha- *disintegrates in pain*
@twiggledy5547
@twiggledy5547 8 ай бұрын
My biggest contention against modern terms like "BIPOC" is that it folds many people with diverse, interesting, and *separate* histories into the label "brown". When I think about what you presented here its very much the same thing isn't it? I live in proximity to the Czech Republic, and I certainly don't view them as being the same as Poland or Hungary or Romania. I'm always in favor of digging into and sharing different aspects of culture and history. While I probably wont stop using "Eastern Europe" for a while now, this will certainly be on my mind. I'd like to ask some of my Czech and Polish colleagues about it. Good vid, Kraut!
@oiytd5wugho
@oiytd5wugho 8 ай бұрын
I mean, the term isn't really used much in the context of Europe. Slavic peoples don't exist within that term, unless you *really* stretch that *I* in "BIPOC" to include, like, any kind of indigeneity and not indigenous minorities within a colonial society. As it stands, within Europe, the term only really applies to immigrants, black french people, Romani, a few cultural holdouts, etc. It's just not applicable to the video, idk why you'd bring it up?
@twiggledy5547
@twiggledy5547 7 ай бұрын
@@oiytd5wugho I find it very applicable. Washing away cultural differences
@oiytd5wugho
@oiytd5wugho 7 ай бұрын
@@twiggledy5547 it's not intended for talking about culture. It's used to talk about oppression. Would you rather the acronym had 600 letters to cover every cultural possibility? You use it to talk about a very wide section of society, not individual people's backgrounds. Wait, I also noticed you said "brown", why? The B stands for black
@XandateOfHeaven
@XandateOfHeaven 3 ай бұрын
@@twiggledy5547 I think the biggest problem with the term is not that they tried to come up with big tent category of people who were oppressed by white supremacy, but that it seemed to be a deliberate attempt to exclude Asians.
@honzavyborny
@honzavyborny 6 ай бұрын
Hi, that's literally best video explaining this topic, big thank you! Edit: I've decided to add something mine to discussion. As a Czech, I've always hated term of Eastern Europe because of these things. I've seen as a kid especially our country just being alone, too different and with nothing in common with so-called Slavic countries and so on. It's irony call as Eastern Europe (frequently being miss used as post-communist), because for example we have being ruled by Austrian and Germans for much (I mean really) longer than by Soviets. In comparision to other Slavic, Eastern European, ex-Soviet and so labeled countries, we have much more German culture than them, with primarily language is similar to countries to the East from us (which is also heavily influenced by Germans). And despite it, we were many years before pretty much independent kingdom and Czech remainded still really closed nature nation and minded their own bussiness as much as they could in times of being ruled by others. And that's maybe why we don't have much in common with many of our neighbouring countries.
@mav4892
@mav4892 8 ай бұрын
Kraut : Describes the origin of vampires Netflix : Write that down, write that down
@enderman_666
@enderman_666 8 ай бұрын
describes it incorrectly, unfortunately
@kevincronk7981
@kevincronk7981 8 ай бұрын
19:42 lmao carrying on the tradition of German speakers inherently hating the French
@JABN97
@JABN97 8 ай бұрын
The Germans hate the French, the English hate the French, the Dutch love complaining about the French, I don’t know about the Swiss Italians, Basques and Spanish, but I presume they also love making jokes about the French. I guess it’s a European thing to joke about the French. Maybe they won too many wars and everyone is still salty about Napoleon or something. But it’s and interesting phenomenon to say the least
@avengerulsasuke5814
@avengerulsasuke5814 8 ай бұрын
@@JABN97 As a Romanian I also joke about the French, the main reason being those 8 bloody years I had to learn French when under 1% of the jobs in this country require French ( 5% require German mind you) and not be able to say 1 sentence.
@JABN97
@JABN97 8 ай бұрын
@@avengerulsasuke5814 well, guess I spend my years more productively then you. Only 3 years and I know 2 entire sentences: “sorry I don’t understand” and “I’m Dutch, I don’t speak French”. Very productive years, yes. 😂
@kevincronk7981
@kevincronk7981 8 ай бұрын
@avengerulsasuke5814 reminds me of trying to learn spanish, I took it my entire life up until I was 15, and still barely knew any. Then I tried one year of French, and that made me forget all the Spanish without learning any French
@kevincronk7981
@kevincronk7981 8 ай бұрын
@@JABN97 I'm American and can confirm we also love making fun of the french, despite how we owe our independence to them and have been pretty much always allies with them for our entire history
@xenamorphwinner7931
@xenamorphwinner7931 8 ай бұрын
There’s also the debate, that the geographical center of Europe is in Lithuania.
@appa609
@appa609 8 ай бұрын
I read it was in Belarus
@Hadar1991
@Hadar1991 8 ай бұрын
@@appa609 It depends what method you choose and what you will classify as Europe. It can be in Poland, Lithuania or Belarus, depending on approach.
@Mendogology
@Mendogology 8 ай бұрын
@@Hadar1991 There are many supposed centers of Europe, but there is only one that is recognised as it is in Guinness Book of World Records. And it's Lithuania. Also it's the only center of Europe that is claimed by a foreigner scientist (French in this case). For the rest of countries, is a national scientist who claims "my country is in the center
@Daniel-jm7ts
@Daniel-jm7ts 8 ай бұрын
@@Mendogology accualy the centre of europe is in my garden
@Hadar1991
@Hadar1991 8 ай бұрын
@@Mendogology Not really. I am mathematician and the problem is that what is Europe is not well define. There are multiple different definitions there are borders of Europe and depending which borders we will assume are correct, then the centroid point moves a little bit. Also there is difference if we count only continental Europe or islands also (then extremes as Svalbard or Azores will have quite big impact)
@thunder_cloud7494
@thunder_cloud7494 Ай бұрын
I am from Belarus and I have long been accustomed to the fact that for most of the English-speaking Internet my country does not exist and it has to be described as “a country near Russia”
@thinkerpanda
@thinkerpanda Ай бұрын
Well isn't that a fault of Belarus, aligning all the time with Russia, mostly acting like a Russian puppet state, most of population speaking Russian instead of Belarusian, speaking about reunification with Russia etc.
@thunder_cloud7494
@thunder_cloud7494 Ай бұрын
@thinkerpanda Yeah, that true, but i think English-speaking doesn't fucking know anything about Eastern Europe in general, most Europeans propably learned about Ukraine because of the war, and before that it was the same “country near Russia” as Belarus. Like, this video is about it
@neonpirych1566
@neonpirych1566 21 күн бұрын
@@thunder_cloud7494 В том то и дело. Я не считаю, что термин "Восточная Европа" был введен только Совком, ведь его до сих пор используют западные европейцы. Просто за последние сотни лет в Восточной Европе не было другого более крупного и известного государства, как Россия. Есть куча анекдотов о том, что всё что восточнее Австрии это Россия. Просто современный Западный житель не будет изучать историю такого малоизвестного региона, как Восточная Европа.
@thunder_cloud7494
@thunder_cloud7494 21 күн бұрын
@neonpirych1566 Справедливо
@neonpirych1566
@neonpirych1566 21 күн бұрын
@@thunder_cloud7494 В конце концов неужели кто то будет оскорбляться от термина Восточная Европа? Я не вижу здесь ничего уничежительного. Советского Союза давно нет, так что это только проблема Запада, который в каких то моментах будет считать Восточных европейцев нищими и дикими.
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