Eastern Europeans Are Going Extinct

[@HB013b]

I am Polish and have noticed a quick increase in the number of foreigners who are more and more noticable with each year. Mainly subsaharans and Indians. They obviously don't know a single Polish word and have no ties to my country. We will share the same fate as France.

[@timeeternal5756]

Well, sunshine . You can start making babies or else !

[@wassafshahzad8618]

But hey pay your taxes tho ? You need them . They pay more taxes than you cause they are most probably higher earners than you

[@cogitoergosum9129]

Bro same thing in Germany

[@juan-ko5hz]

maybe Putin will scare them away

[@christianlacroix4]

It's the pension system, in Europe the taxes are ridiculous, so people can't afford children, but the goverment needs more people to be able to pay the pensionns of people who retire, so they import more immigrants.

[@10hawell]

No worries guys I'm working on reversing it with my wife, wish me luck

[@kel8026]

How many kids so far? How many do you plan for? What's the age of you and you wife? If the answer is 10, 10 and 10, there's hope haha

[@aglassofmilk5779]

You got this bro

[@gilgameschvonuruk4982]

God bless you.

[@ryanfalgoretti]

This is the way

[@alinekalafatis8311]

me too! My wife and I we have 5 children. Good luck

[@Ordistoracle]

KaiserBauch has officially entered his, “the Slavic world has fallen, hundreds of millions must die” phase

[@joea7590]

Fell in 1917 tbh

[@jammmy30]

Hmm 🤔 if Poles and other Eastern Europeans will move in sufficient numbers they might be able to salvage their civilisation somewhere else. For example Poles are 15-30 millions in America, so soon the number will be bigger than in Poland it self ;)

[@brendon1689]

@@jammmy30 i was about to make a serious reply, but then i realised something 🤨

[@dyawr]

😂

[@Dim.g0v]

​@@jammmy30 Why would an American of Polish descent move this hypothetical future Poland?

[@rewriting-history]

As a Bulgarian I can say that this is a big problem and nobody seems to care about that in Eastern Europe. Young people forget that they would have to support more and more elderly people, so it puts a heavy burden on them, most likely resulting in higher taxes. This would make young people leave, resulting in even higher taxes for the people remaining. This is a death spiral that Eastern Europe is yet to enter. To top it all off, our politicians are not doing anything about it. On the news, the biggest problems are if we should construct a hospital or not... The most important thing is neglected and as I said earlier, people in Bulgaria don't even know that the country going extinct in like 20-30 years is possible. Nobody is doing anything to change that. Politicians do nothing. They assume that if they don't do anything, the problem would get fixed by itself. The thing is that if we don't do anything, we still fail, it just takes us 20 years to collapse and go extinct. I would prefer somebody to do something daring and bald. Even if it's the wrong choice and we collapse, at least we had a chance at success, as collapsing 20 years later is guaranteed. I will move away from this country, it is not worth it. Still the best place in the world to visit as a tourist btw.

[@ज्योत्स्ना1]

Despite the depressing overall Demographic makeup of Bulgaria, the country is actually doing a lot better than other European countries when it comes to fertility rate. Of course, one could argue that it's because of the gypsies having above-replacement fertility rate.

[@anon2034]

Most births in Bulgaria are from the Gypsy minority these days.

[@anon2034]

" I would prefer somebody to do something daring and bold." Like what?

[@rewriting-history]

@@anon2034 Italy is giving free housing to offset some regions being depopulated. Bulgaria can also give more right to certain people, or do 0% corporate tax, just to name a few. We will go extinct sooner or later, so we might try something like that

[@anon2034]

@@rewriting-history "give more right to certain people" Who? "do 0% corporate tax" Probably the contrary. Soon a tax increase. With 10% tax you can't pay for that corrupt goverment.

[@gitte8676]

Kaiserbauch videos be like "your race is gonna die, something something emannuel todd, the end" lol.

[@Wn9618]

Hahahahaha

[@Paul-xu6gt]

Emmanuel Todd isn’t serious anymore at all

[@directorchris2]

Stay Low And Watch Blacks Myrder Myhamedthans & Xebraic.

[@helix5779]

He seems so utterly unbothered by it, like hes presenting some mildly interesting college project

[@Rowlph8888]

@@Paul-xu6gt Typical impulsive, Ignorant dismissive comment.Kaiserbauch gives impressive thorough thought-provoking synopses and Todd is very respected. The narrative around his family models are clearly accurate

[@andrewrogers3067]

Between the Golden Horde, The Russian Empire/Soviet Union, the Ottomans and the Germans. Eastern European really never experienced the level of insane growth in strength that Western Europe and especially America had, it’s a tragic story.

[@juan-ko5hz]

Western Europe is overrated, even Asia and Latin America beat it, and Eastern Europe is experiencing growth now

[@9_9876]

Germany and ruzzia our cancers. Germany has become our ally now though.

[@socire72]

It did under the USSR, with it becoming the largest economy in the world (measured by 1983 GDP adjusted for purchasing power parity). However it overtook the rest of the world in industrial production in the 1930's. Truth is, Eastern Europe never recovered from WWII, revisionist market policies from 1950s-1989, and capitalism/shock therapy.

[@Anton43218]

​@@socire72 Romania starved during communism. Idk what the hell you are saying.

[@alastairthegreat2887]

​@@socire72So everything went perfect for the commies and they still failed? Sounds like a fantastic ideology, where can I sign up?

[@ThalattaHaralus]

Btw I'm Thai and as someone who loves history and geopolitics, it absolutely shocks me that no one, and I mean no one knows or cares about the low birth rates. I've met literally only one other person from high school who knew it was bad, and everyone in college thinks everything is fine. It really does seem like we have to wait until disaster comes for us to wake up.

[@FOLIPE]

In developing countries people are often still (idiotically) convinced that the problem is the opposite: too many kids, high birth rates. After all, we are poor and poor people have a lot of kids, right? Wrong! And these people don't even bother reading to know better. I remember when I was a kid there were magazine covers talking of a population time bomb when the fertility rate was crossing bellow 2.1! Unfortunately these people don't even try to learn the issues before writing about them

[@ThalattaHaralus]

I mean, I would be happy to have kids, it's just really hard to get married, have and raise them. I will try anyway though.

[@CaptainTex34]

If the overall population of earth was to decline I don't see how that's a problem we already have and will have problems of overpopulation... population shrinking is bad if the economy can't support it that's why there's need to be investment in ai and automation

[@lilestojkovicii6618]

Because education system in developing countries teaches about overpopulation

[@CaptainTex34]

@@lilestojkovicii6618 I don't think that's the problem every country that got modernized and industrialized it's fertility rate got lower

[@Potion_Seller99]

In my personal experience, living in a big city is a big factor in having Children. I have 3 aunts and uncles on my Mother's side and 8 cousins, they all live in rural villages. On my father's side, I have just one uncle and one cousin, they live in a big city suburb.

[@Peter_739]

Thats because city people have things to do besides raising children out of sheer boredom.

[@infaraday6862]

​​@@Peter_739 this point of view is both ignorant and reductive

[@Potion_Seller99]

​@@Peter_739 Which is a good thing. Guess which side of the family is happier overall: the one that has a lot of money left for buying expensive cars and motorcycles, or the one spending lots of quality time together and supporting each other?

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

@@Peter_739 I know, right?

[@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986]

This might be your anecdotal experience but there’s actually very little fertility difference in most western countries between rural and urban areas. In fact in the UK rural areas have a lower birthrate than the suburbs.

[@danbaltic9678]

At classmates birthday there were 8 couples aged 28-32yo. Out of them only 1 had a kid. And this is more conservative young people who dislike mass-migration and lgbtq.

[@ryanfalgoretti]

yeah the problem with conservatives is that they complain about immigration but then they are too lazy to have children

[@Anton43218]

Tradlarpers

[@mysterioanonymous3206]

Some of them will in the next 2 or 3 years because the clock suddenly hits those post prime women... Ive seen it happen quite a lot. First time birthing age now is, roughly, 32 or 33...

[@sebsebski2829]

@@Anton43218 Don't copy paste Americanisms onto eastern Europe. It's different.

[@Anton43218]

@@sebsebski2829 what americanism are you talking about?

[@19Szabolcs91]

Hungary's supposed pro-natalist policies are mostly just window dressing. No wonder the effect on the birth rate is negligable when the policies' effect on families' financials is too. The job market does not accommodate part-time work almost at all, wages are terrible so it's basically impossible to survive on one salary. Housing is a gigantic issue with Chinese and Russian oligarchs buying up all the real estate, driving prices high so everything is stacked against young couples to start a family, and even when they do and have one child, in order to provide for that one, they can't afford to make a second baby.

[@undergroundsound7419]

Yea completely agree, while at the same time they taken on a ton of debt

[@hebanker3372]

Who could have thought that unchecked, free market would have repercussions...

[@fransvandenheuvel7161]

Trumps election had a more profound impact on birth rate than policy like this. Whites increased while hispanics, blacks, and I think asians too, decreased during his term. Part of the answer has to lie in hope for the future. Policies are a managerial answer, and it may help a small amount, but it won't be the answer.

[@capslocked7274]

Living in Vienna I've ironically met a few young couples from Hungary, who are qualified workers yet can not afford a future in their home country

[@johnnyflores5954]

The white population of America only, increased due, to the influx of Hispanic immigration. Don’t forget, that their are Latinos of European descent. According to the US, census, the white Anglo population of the US, is about 60 percent, but when you add, white Latinos. It’s 77 percent.

[@moh3n_deniku]

I'm from Iran and people over here don't want to have kids especially the younger generations, they even shame people who choose to have a kid in this country, because of the economical and moral crisis in Iran and if this continues I see a future where Afghanians will replace Iranians one day because of the mass influx from Aghanistan, there was an article about the birth rate of Afghanians in Iran and one of the hospitals mentioned in the article had a crazy estimation of between every 300 children given birth in that hospital, 271 of them were Afghanians and the rest were Iranians. The way they estimated was by their ID cards, because Afghanians who have came to Iran illegally don't have ID cards which wraps around more than 90% of Afghanians in Iran. And the government does not seem to care because they can use their men to oppress Iranians in their own homeland because on the other side most of Iranians don't want to torture their own compatriots.

[@bLaffix]

Western Civilization in its current form is unsustainable long-term due to extremely low birthrates. And many nations, including young Iranians and Eastern Europeans, want to live like a Westerner. We need a very serious discussion about what's happening to the World's nations and the unsustainability of the Western model.

[@moh3n_deniku]

@@bLaffix I don't think it's the western life that attracts so many people, it has more to do with freedom, liberty, financial stability and safety... things that their countries seem to lack, especially islamic states in the middle east... I know so many people who want to migrate to the west only and only because of human rights crisis and not seeing a good financial future for themselves, they're not seeking the western life... America and the entire west need to realise that with the peace in middle east the world would be a much better place for everyone including the west but all America has done was to destabilize the middle east even further, what they need to do is to listen to people and not the governments and bring freedom to the middle east and not to seek their own interest in the process and see it as an investment for a better future and not to do it only for oil with discount

[@Mayhzon]

Even in Iran? Oh wow. And I thought Feminist Islam was a silly joke. We musn't let them get away with this.

[@moh3n_deniku]

@@Mayhzon Actually it's mostly Iranian men who don't want kids, not women. Because the majority of Iranian women are housewives which leaves the husband to do all the money making for the family and as you might have guessed, financial situation in Iran is not normal to say the least and salaries hardly ever increase for a country in financial crisis with over 600% inflation in the last 2 years, (the charts say about 50% but for the people who actually live in Iran the price of some items double in less than a week) Raising a child is very expensive and takes up a lot of their time so couples decide to procrastinate and try to build up a good life so that they'll be able to afford it, and after that they'll realise the moral crisis in Iran and think to themselves "Do we really want to bring up a kid in Iran which can potentially be a girl and be harassed and assaulted by the government's morality police? and be under so much pressure by her teachers on the matter of hijab and saying her prayers properly?" So the next thing they think about is to migrate to another country with stability and moral health. And there is no such thing as feminism in Iran, Iranian men and women don't see eachother as enemies unlike the west because they have a common enemy which is the government that oppresses both genders.

[@ahemenidov1900]

It's capitalism and moral values of so called Western Civilization. When everything is a subject of trade nothing permanent remains. Neither men nor women trust to each other and all of them try to guarantee their future using every possible methods. Emigration of women also sources from this and leads to imbalance and ugly shape of concurrency arising. All this finally leads to total society destruction. However, in West countries it's being (temporarily) a bit less sharper due to an influx of colonial profits and poor immigrants ready for everything. Non-Western choosers of 'Western way' don't have such support so they simply destruct themselves every day. Of course somewhen it will reach awful end. The rescuing will came via setting of cruel dictatorship with total refusal of 'human rights' and pro-Western ideology. Or alternatively these societies will free their territories for other, more vital nations.

[@arofhoof]

the fall in fertility rate started well before internet and and social media.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

The first major change was the sexual revolution, the Internet and social media then accelerated it in a second stage, as it amplified the affects of the sexual revolution.

[@Kingofportals]

@@derek44122007 just so happened to be the last year the United States had a fertility rate above replacement.

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

It started at the same time when new modes of entertainment appeared, such as the cinematograph and later the TV.

[@FOLIPE]

​@@matthiuskoenig3378No the fall starts with Industrialization and urbanization, the sexual revolution comes much later in this process

[@here_we_go_again2571]

@@matthiuskoenig3378 The first major change was the Industrial revolution. Children are (almost) free labor in a low-tech rural environment. Children are an expense in an advanced urban society where education is required. In the early days of the Industrial revolution children were employed. It was a horrific life for most of them!

[@Snagabott]

I cannot tell you how many times I encounter people saying "we are overpopulated" in response to whatever challenge is being discussed... it seems that the impression of a Malthusean catastrophe has become so deeply rooted among the intelligensia that they are not even willing to consider the idea that it's wrong; and they flat out refuse to look at more up to date data.

[@JohnJourdan88]

These same people turn around and claim we need immigration too. And turn around again to say feminism/reproductive rights needs to be protected. Totally unserious

[@dirremoire]

The world is overpopulated. Moreover, economies based on the absolute necessity of continuing population growth are, by definition, unstable.

[@akatsukicloak]

It's not wrong, you have no clue what you're talking about, the data clearly shows patterns in birthrates based on the stage of civilizational and economic development, if you want high birthrates go live in poverty or in a poor country.

[@Mayhzon]

Not a surprise. The educated are also the most indoctrinated.

[@Mayhzon]

@@akatsukicloak You're beyond help. I hope for bad tidings for your future.

[@MonsieurDean]

Demographic collapse seems to be coming for us all. For countries with the means to do so, automation would probably be a very wise investment.

[@nsv8613]

For the rulers of the countries, yes. For the rest, what's the point of working towards automation if there are no guarantees that the ruling class won't get rid of you once you've made yourself useless?

[@vistagreat9994]

@@nsv8613 The robots have to be repaired.

[@wilberdebeer4696]

​@@vistagreat9994Robots will repair robots.

[@vistagreat9994]

@@wilberdebeer4696 But then those robots also have to be repaired by humans & repairmen... Sorry.

[@lmvr127]

@@wilberdebeer4696who will overwatch the robots watching robots? Who will program them and patch them? ChatGPT still has a long way to go when it comes to writing accurate code, and even getting certain historical events right.

[@cossackhistorian7425]

One reason for the massive decline of rural areas is disproportionate female emigration. Macedonia was the last country in Christian Europe to drop bellow 2.1 and rural areas still maintained a tfr of at least 2.4 per woman. But we have just been hit with a massive consistent emigration wave so bad that the only people left between the age of say 22-35 in my village are single men. And I can’t imagine what Ukraine is about to go through

[@anon2034]

Most rural areas in Macedonia are ethnically Albania.

[@cossackhistorian7425]

@@anon2034 Albanian majority districts take up like 12% the national land area even though they are 24% of the population since they arrived as immigrants and settled more compactly

[@rumkata]

Страшно е.... Дръжте фронта македонци

[@SmradimirKakac]

this will just get worst as the demand for care workers will grow across the Europe

[@cossackhistorian7425]

@@SmradimirKakac Nobody in Macedonia uses care workers ppl usually work until they can’t anymore (often into 80’s) and then stay with relatives. My great grandfather continued working on his farm until 87 Many places in Eastern Europe simply never reached a point where Care workers were affordable in the first place

[@nacelnikprosiak1260]

A guy from Podlasie (eastern, rural part of Poland) here, I got 2 brothers and 4 sisters (both them and me are full grown adults) and I see first hand how depressing demographics are, two of my sisters managed to get pregnant and now rise their children, even though one of them is single mother, third sister (the oldest one) says she never wants to have a child even though she has been in same relationship for more than a decade now, and fourth sister is sick requiring constant care from family. Male part of family is even worse, only my oldest brother managed to enter relationship, but his woman is unable to bear children, while me and the second brother got no game. It's over, Poland has fallen, 36 millions must perish

[@azeke8]

I have 5 Polish former classmates. They are all 30 years old. None have children. Only one of them is married (she doesn’t want children). One has long term gf. Three are currently loners. None of them take the question of the survival of Polish state and demographics seriously. It is truly over.

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

Hi. Poland has more polish people now than it had in 1939. So no, Poland is not going to perish. And there is no need to have a fertility rate of >2.1 for ever. Poland would still exist if it was inhabited by 300k people, like Iceland is today. But I would suggest you try to stop immigration of peoples of considerably less good phenotype.

[@bobsteve4812]

@@tomorrowneverdies567A smaller population isn’t too much of a problem. The issue is the population will be both smaller AND older. Making things way worse than the past demographically. Not to mention being flooded with foreigners

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

@@bobsteve4812 sort of, but have you accounted for the GDP per capita increase due to technological innovations? So even if the age distribution means that younger generations must pay more to sustain elderly people (pensions), this does not necessarily mean that young people in 2044 will be poorer than young people now.

[@baassiia]

I live in south-east. Middle size city. 2 kids, we both work full time, high skill job. We have decent house, good income but very little spare time. Having next kid would mean give up one income, not fatal but 2 kids are alraedy quite decent number. Anyway there is never perfect time to have kid, kids are hard 🤭when you have loving partner, don't postpone till never. At some age, fertility drops and you might face situation describe as unplanned childlessnes 😬 life withput kids is easier but not better 🥰

[@toobeast673]

The uncomfortable truth is the more women get educated the worse the birth rate becomes. There is not a single country that has increased the average schooling per woman that hasn’t experienced serious drop in fertility. The only way to change this would be to somehow convince billions of women that instead of going to University they should start families which seems extremely unlikely to succeed. The only countries with high birth rates in the 22nd century will be poor countries where women are denied access to education like Niger, Afghanistan, or Somalia. It’s tragic how we’re the most prosperous generation of humans that’s ever lived but we can’t even fulfill our most basic biological responsibility

[@viz12345]

Only PATRIARCHY can save human kind!

[@CaptainTex34]

If the overall population of earth was to decline I don't see how that's a problem we already have and will have problems of overpopulation... population shrinking is bad if the economy can't support it that's why there's need to be investment in ai and automation...and I don't think you have any responsibility to make children it's a personal choice everyone makes and you shouldn't force someone to do it

[@konstantinrebrov675]

Why is this even a problem? Why is education correlated with a negative drop in fertility? Education for women, and even men with higher educated degrees have less children. I'm sure that there are always exceptions to this. But the general trend is that education is correlated with a negative drop in fertility. Is there a reason why the human cannot handle both education and children at once? Is it because the amount of time and effort invested into an education would be taking away the time and effort that would otherwise be spent on raising a child? I think so. I remember when I was a student, I was in survivial mode all the time, only focused on finishing assignments and exams successfully. I had little time for thinking about anything else, such as children. It means that the education system should be structured in such a way, that you can learn at whatever pace you please. No strict deadlines, no formal courses. Just let people learn as they go, don't be rushing them. >It’s tragic how we’re the most prosperous generation of humans that’s ever lived but we can’t even fulfill our most basic biological responsibility Going ever deeper than that, is there something fundamentally flawed with the human species? Implying that the human species is actually retarded? Implying that humans are uncapable of fulfilling their most basic biological responsibility outside of a medieval type of society? Implying that humans are biologically not evolved enough for advanced civilization? Implying that there will never come a time when a futuristic utopia will be created on this planet? Implying that the human species on this planet is destined for suffering? Implying that we are just souls reincarnated into inherently flawed human bodies temporarily onto this planet? Implying that we ought not to attempting creating something long term, since we are temporary in this world anyway? Implying that other than personal survival, nothing else matters in this world?

[@toobeast673]

@@CaptainTex34 You only believe this because you must live in a country with low external threats. If your neighbors want to conquer you allowing your nation to become overburdened with an inverted demographic pyramid will end in a disaster.

[@sebsebski2829]

@@CaptainTex34 Are we really overpopulated though?

[@TheGeoScholar]

In my country, the United States of America, birth rates are dropping here too. And I'm Black American. The Black American fertility rate has dropped below replacement levels. It's not that far off from the Czech fertility rate. I'm living proof of a declining birth rate in America's Black population. I'm Black, age 38, and I don't have any children. My brother and sister are in their 30s too. Just like me, they don't have any children. We're all childless bachelors at this point.

[@nikobellic570]

Weird. Rural, religious types have higher birthrates and they tend to be White. First generation Hispanic immigrants also have more children maybe?

[@djblame8954]

Yep, in just a generation, we went from Black people have too many kids, to not enough....I have 2 kids, and had 3 siblings, but my parents had 8 siblings each,....in my youth it was not uncommon for senior Black men to have multiple families

[@TheGeoScholar]

@@djblame8954 One reason I mentioned this is because of this impending concern about being in the minority. I'm Black and I am in the minority in America. I'm used to being in the minority. Whatever happens, it will remain the same for Black Americans. As for children, the birth rates are falling. I've never really had fear over that. At one time we had alot of children. Now we don't.

[@JohnJourdan88]

I realized this 5 years ago. Europeans truly are the model. We were never going extinct. If anything everybody else is more likely to face it than us.

[@opposition654]

@@JohnJourdan88 no large race of people is going to go extinct, maybe the races will combine with more tolerant people, but hundreds of millions of people will not disappear

[@davidcervantes9336]

In my country (Mexico) the fertility rate has declined severely in the most developed regions (northern and western Mexico)[They’re also the whitest regions. Do whatever you want with this piece of information 👀]. It’s the least educated and poor regions of the country that keep the fertility rate somehow “stable”. So for us is simple. More education, less children.

[@juan-ko5hz]

also because of the crime many are still having children but prefer to go raise them in the US and that screws up the statistics

[@hazzmati]

Same happened in Brazil

[@davidcervantes9336]

@@juan-ko5hz Nah. Data is very clear: People living in Mexico are simply not having kids. This is people that’s not migrating or thinking about doing so. It’s people in their reproductive age, working snd paying taxes that’s willingly giving up on having children.

[@hermitcard4494]

En las ciudades tener hijos es un gasto alto. En el campo la gente costea mejor tener más hijos, además desde jóvenes ayudan en el campo a mantener la familia. Saludos desde Panamá. PD; No estoy seguro de como es la situación aquí, honestamente veo más gente y crecimiento de la ciudad, pero posiblemente llegue a su punto de balance y se mantenga o se baje hasta balancear. No sé.

[@alastairthegreat2887]

​@@hermitcard4494The most recent rate I see for Panama is 2.3 so above replacement and slow but sustainable growth. One of 4 or 5 countries in the Americas above replacement rate.

[@Isaax]

It's all too grim for the soul to withstand

[@swjackson2]

the future of mankind, robots and Africans.... or maybe just robots, lol

[@stackk.113]

We lost soul two hundred years ago...

[@bnmbg731]

@@swjackson2 I hope the liberal elites can at least figure out how to get Africa to reduce their birthrate along with everyone else.

[@derKrampus]

​@@swjackson2 If so then it is likely just the Africans.

[@danshakuimo]

@@swjackson2 One day some robot is making a video about the fertility rate being too low and somehow that will make sense to the robots watching

[@mkuc6951]

Polish here; my grandmother from my mothers side 1/14 children. ONE OF FOURTEEN! My mother was 1/2. I am a single child. I'm planning my family with my fiance, probably 2 max 3 kids.

[@aar0n709]

Children are extremely expensive. You will stop at two

[@rhs5683]

Same; grand-granny 1/13; granny 1/8; mother[my aunt has 4] 1/2; myself 1; plan to get at least 4 God willing.

[@BYD-Gold]

Me too, my grandmother = 11 children. My mother = 6 children. Me = 4 children max. Allahu akbar!

[@AbdulSoomro-kj5lt]

Too low: try 5

[@briskettacos]

If Grandma and Grandpa move into the house, you can save on childcare expenses and both parents can work, but it comes with its own problems. There's a reason many people had a separate house for parents nearby

[@3ast3rn3r]

In Bucharest, Timisoara, Constanta, Cluj, the biggest romanian cities, if you order food, some guy from Nepal will deliver it. If you go to a shopping mall, you talk to the staff in English, they are mostly from Bangladesh. The street workers are also Asians, hotel staff, nannies from the Philippines and so on..

[@manwiththeredface7821]

Not trying to start an argument or anything but Romanians used to be but an ethnic minority as well in half of these places you just mentioned (as well as in many others throughout Transylvania). But that's life, am I right? At least they deliver food to you instead of an eviction notice...

[@BozaCukuranovic3223]

Same is happening more and more in Belgrade

[@3ast3rn3r]

@@manwiththeredface7821 commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Walachians_(Romanians)_in_Hungary,_census_1890.jpg#mw-jump-to-license There are personal opinions and then there is the truth. You decide what you stick with..

[@GoofusPlays]

It's so over, bros

[@bickboose9364]

@@manwiththeredface7821 Romanians have never been a minority in any major city in Romania, as far as I'm aware. Do you have proof of your claims?

[@kirilsrbinovski]

Quick summary: we are all fucked

[@kirishima638]

Humanity will survive. But the capitalist system has entered its death phase.

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

No we are not.

[@YouNoob573]

@@tomorrowneverdies567 cope

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

@@YouNoob573 you believe we "all" are fucked then? How?

[@blazer9547]

Have children

[@Rukovet]

It doesn't have to be this way. We have to work together and prevent it. May the beauty of our people never disappear.

[@joroa7151]

It's over. Reproduction is way beyond replacement levels. We did to ourselves what the Germans, Ottomans and various other Asian groups tried for centuries and failed. All because of greed and false sense of equality

[@Anton43218]

​@IceSpiceNationalistfor that you need to be a beneficiary of nepotism

[@kirishima638]

Beauty? Humanity is not beautiful.

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

@@kirishima638 well not all of it for sure 😂

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

Iceland is only 300k inhabitants. Consider that. It would take centuries for a country like Poland or Serbia to reach this number.

[@kamil560]

I for one am optimistic about Poland. A week ago I learned that Poland has more than 40 million people for the first time in history. We have a lot of immigrants from Belarus and Ukraine who mostly work (in the West it looks different 60%+ Ukrainians in Poland work in Germany this number does not exceed 20%) and in general are able to integrate quickly. Europe in the future will look like that whoever “steals” more hardworking people will win. What amuses me to this day is that emigration from Poland to the west is mainly the bottom of society and immigration to Poland is mainly people with higher education. Our job is to raise wages, modernize the country, maintain the current level of security in the streets and mitigate conflicts and hardworking people from the region will want to move here. For countries like Belarus/Ukraine this is unfortunately a tragedy.

[@hazzmati]

If you look at Poland's birth rates then there is nothing to be optimistic about. They're currently at the lowest they've ever been in history and will likely keep declining. Immigrants from Belarus and Ukraine are just a bandaid and that too will stop at some point.

[@undergroundsound7419]

Most Immigrants from Ukraine will go back when the war ends

[@kamil560]

​@@let0atreides I'm not saying that the situation is perfect, there is just a chance that there won't be a tragedy like in Ukraine or Belarus. The economy and a sense of security are the main topics we need to focus on.

[@angliccivilization1346]

In the end the Poles STILL need to have children. That means far more young women having 2 children minimum, and some having 3. And that means the fathers of those children dedicating themselves to a life of hard work to support those children, despite the increase cost of raising children. There is NO other solution that will work.

[@kamil560]

@@hazzmati Does the discussion of fertility always have to come down to binary situations? It's not ideal, but we at least have a chance to stabilize the situation thanks to economic growth and immigration from UKR / BL

[@cturner956]

Are you gonna make any optimistic videos bro

[@cogitoergosum9129]

Please haha

[@naydennaydev7071]

NO 😄

[@edc1569]

Got to feed the algorithm

[@undergroundsound7419]

What's there to be optimistic about? I see the far right in my country almost all the people in the leadership positions don't have any kids but they love talking about need to increase our population

[@okiecav1986]

The Israel and US videos were both pretty optimistic

[@blazer9547]

Have more children, you can come back from a small population not from a mixed population.

[@Anton43218]

I agree but with what money?

[@Peter_739]

No race mixing then?

[@ChristianDoretti]

Nobody wants to struggle. We live in a hedonistic society before anything else, pain is a dystopian choice that is avoided

[@iliaalekov2949]

@@ChristianDoretti rather, the strategy of the rich- divide and conquer work too well, even for their own tastes. nuclear family, nuclear house , 8-12 hrs a day wrok , 1-2 hrs a day tv/internet then sleep. why have children? its a distopian way of life. empty of meaning. there is no comunity. the kids would go into the same routine! its pure horror story. one must be very cruel to create kids in such environment...

[@PowerSimplified1871]

​@@iliaalekov2949 What's wrong with Nuclear Families? They are better than very parasitic communitarian families. Even then, those countries have lower fertility rates that nuclear ones.

[@PaulDiBenedetto]

The media could easily inspire more births by using commercials, television shows, and images showing babies and promoting the joys of babies instead of scaring everybody about certain death because of climate change Women deep down respond to babies and want them. They need to be reminded and inspired. Governments need to step in and promote motherhood as fun, fulfilling and that it provides meaning. Which it does.

[@trevdestroyer8209]

Babies are annoying and gross

[@PaulDiBenedetto]

@@trevdestroyer8209 Then don't make one.

[@linc1494]

KaiserBauch presents the Final Solution to the woman question

[@spambot_gpt7]

It will come inevitably. Presented by Darwin. Survival pressure will replace feminism. It will be interesting to see what comes next.

[@ryanfalgoretti]

@@spambot_gpt7 that seems to me a bit too optimistic. The first feminists came from conservative families, the don't need to reproduce to spread the virus

[@thanasisrks4944]

People must even forcefully have kids because this is an existential threat. And there are no economic problems as in the past Greece was far poorer with homes made of mud on unreachable mountains yet people still had kids.

[@baronvonjo1929]

​@@thanasisrks4944What would happen to a society when you have a bunch on unwanted and unloved kids. Forcing people to have kids they dont want isnt good for the health of a society either. And yes. Money is still a major factor. I have zero prospects of owning an home currently. I simply dont get paid enough There is certainly no room for a kid.

[@effexon]

@@thanasisrks4944 its not existential enough yet. when it really is, generous resources are put in this problem. it could be too late at that point. if ya didnt have to pay rent from mudhuts, they were relatively richer then only working to earn food and car.

[@HZV1492]

We must take in at least 500 million peaceful doctors and engineers from Africa

[@matheenarif8645]

Only for now, after 20 years their fertility rate will decline. I am from India; the fertility rate is below average and declining. After 15 years, we will need immigrants.

[@ssssaa2]

@@matheenarif8645 Impossible to predict with any certainty. Africa has already grown far more than India in the past century and continues to grow much faster. It may peak, but if that peak is at a population larger than the rest of the planet combined, it will still have large implications.

[@kel8026]

Fuck that

[@William10ii]

They’ll mix with the European populations to help raise the population be happy

[@kirishima638]

@@matheenarif8645about time you guys calmed the F down

[@frederickthegreat1352]

So are western Europeans though. Eastern Europe may shrink, but at least it wont be replaced (hopefully).

[@ShadowBlitz776]

It will be eventually

[@abdiganiaden]

Don’t worry, Eastern Europeans will age out and play victim card and say they got replaced

[@slawekra4822]

We will just go extinct eventually at this rate.

[@jjreddick377]

There is no difference. E Europe will become a colony of non European economic hegemony. We love high living conditions, but if the working demographic isn’t replaced, poverty and decline are inevitable.

[@LordEarthWolf]

East Euros will be replaced...its only a matter of time

[@MiSt3300]

The one thing you don't mention is housing. Young people are simply unable to buy houses and move out to set up a family. In Poland the situation is not only bad but it's WORSENED by the government policies. An average family on the average income will be very hard pressed to move into their own house and start a family. It's a disaster

[@ryanfalgoretti]

They are unable to buy an house in their preferred big city, in rural areas housing is always much more affordable

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

But why is it necessary to buy a house? You can rent.

[@MiSt3300]

@@ryanfalgoretti this entire video was about how horrible it was to live in the rural areas in eastern europe, and you are not correct. In the rural areas you are basically forced to build a house, which is actually more expensive than buying a flat

[@MiSt3300]

@@tomorrowneverdies567 renting makes you vulnerable to the whims of the landlords, who might force you to move if he stops offering business, or has their own financial problems. Then you'll have to adjust the kids school, and your own workplace, it's not something new parents even want to think of. Renting is much more expensive than just paying communal services, and especially people with a small child need every extra penny for it, especially if they are supposed to have 2 or 3 kids so that the population can grow. Also, if you loose your job, you're screwed. And finally, renting is the greatest scam of all time, because it doesn't allow you to amass your own wealth for the future of the children.

[@ryanfalgoretti]

@@MiSt3300 There are plenty of small towns with reasonable housing options that do not require you to build from scratch, at most renovate a bit. If the big cities grew so much is by leaving a void elsewhere

[@skyvettel4639]

The main problem is women delaying having children and unplanned childlessness. The solution to this problem is simple, the government needs to help and assist most men to have some sort of higher social status, better physical mental and more money faster. This will entice women to marry early, reducing late marriages and have more opportunities for children.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

We need to glorify motherhood as much as possible.

[@ssssaa2]

The idea that society will ever do anything for low value men is laughable.

[@JohnJourdan88]

You guys can jockey all you want but there’s no getting around the obvious: women’s rights. It has to go

[@falcao127]

Government is the problem, not the solution.

[@Mayhzon]

You think they'd do that, when the current state is what they worked so long for in the first place? You're a funny guy. I like you. Now look at who introduced sexual promiscuity, destruction of family and more... It was government.

[@anonamos225]

Standard of living goes up - birthrate goes down. People become educated - people reproduce less.

[@hulking_presence]

> eastern europeans are going extinct > shows map of western europeans going extinct 🤷‍♂

[@tiagomonteiro130]

Ah yes the western countries of Poland and Russia, have you even seen the Video.

[@damionkeeling3103]

Both have declining populations. Much of western Europe has had low birthrates since the 1970s, Spain since the 80s I believe and eastern Europe was also declining at this time even when communism was still around. It got much worse in the former Soviet Union during the 90s when that country broke up and there have been major drug and alcohol issues in Russia . Western Europe is possibly as bad as East Europe but mass immigration has hidden the lack of live births amongst the native populations. The native Scottish population has declined by around 100,000 over the last couple of decades as an example. Growth in such places is entirely driven by foreigners moving there which is why people talk about replacement migration, immigrants aren't adding to the population, they're replacing the existing one.

[@ЭдвардВ.М]

this video is a joke, don't take the video seriously or too personal

[@1KOLYANOS1]

@@damionkeeling3103 USSR decline? Wikipedia stats say otherwise, there were steady growth of population since establishment of union, except second world war period, and only in when it collapsed population stoped growing. Makes you think that USSR had more favorable conditions to family development than modern day.

[@novakattila]

@@1KOLYANOS1birth rates started to fall in the mid 80s. In Russia itself it only went slightly above replacement rate in the 80s but was mostly under it. If you look at the whole USSR population increased because other countries were way above replacement rate

[@thomasnk9489]

13:40 In Germany we don't call our "Greatest Generation" the Greatest Generation for some reason...

[@lucaslevinsky8802]

💀

[@martneb]

Also "Silent Generation" got a far different connotation here.

[@FreedomTalkMedia]

I don't call them that in the US either. I call them the GI generation.

[@Mayhzon]

Because our young offspring is ungrateful and ate the "message" whole.

[@jurisprudens2697]

😆

[@PapaOscarNovember]

Isn't Israel's population growth primarily among religious orthodox Haredi, not among secular urbanites? Also, I'm skeptical of hypothesis that stability enables higher birth rate. We have counter example of sub Saharan Africa and Somalia. These regions are anything but politically stable, and yet they enjoy very high birth rates. My hunch is that all the stability and prosperity brought on by industrialization and development somehow ends up suppressing aggregate survival instincts humans - basically, life is easy so we don't live very hard. The answer probably lies in evolutionary biology, something to do with selection pressure and group response.

[@CaptainTex34]

Every country that modernized it's fertilities rates dropped

[@lilestojkovicii6618]

Exactly

[@pkom6418]

Ghana is a politically stable country. And many other African countries are pretty politically stable.

[@CaptainTex34]

@@pkom6418 most of Africa is politically unstable they can't go a few years without coups

[@WilliamSantos-cv8rr]

They have stable families and clans. The hyper industrialisation did not bring any stability. Per say an industrial mechanic could work his whole life in the position he held in a factory until the automation took over from 90s onward. Now an industrial mechanic needs to look for work in many places, and often has to move. Btw I am myself an automation technician and had to move a lot.

[@ncuxap12444]

I'm from Bulgaria and for a while my country was the fastest depopulating country in the world. That was before covid and the war, now the situation is not exactly good, but kinda improving, my point though is that this is a painful issue for our society and most people are aware of it. We're not blind, we see what's coming. There is a widespread sentiment that we're going extinct, not least because of the fact that the white bulgarians have lower fertility than the gypsies. So this sentiment may explain, at least partly why our overall fertility increased in the last couple of years. We are scared, we don't want to die as a nation. Another thing, as painful as it is, the war in Ukraine actually benefits us quite a bit, our economy is better because of energy and arms sales, we have positive net migration thanks to the ukrainian refugees, who are mostly young and some are well off. We are strangely stable at the moment.

[@rumkata]

Други българи които мислят по тези неща като теб ме кефят💪. Въпреки всичко оставам оптимистичен- няма да се предаваме! Поне 3 деца

[@JohnJourdan88]

This is a strange phenomenon that we in the euro diaspora don’t grasp. Your neighbors are all fellow Europeans, but we have non Europeans in our former colonial outpost ‘countries’ (economies zone), so you guys see your neighbors as mere rivals mostly correct? We see ours (Mexico etc) as an existential threat because they aren’t us. They can’t ‘assimilate’ to us without destroying us.

[@boredhuman9289]

I moved to Bulgaria recently and kinda not sure what will be the situation in 30 years when I will retire, I am afraid its not gonna be good here.

[@WHATISUTUBE]

The problem is that when you set up massive social welfare systems it necessitates an ever-expanding population to care for the aging population. When economic times are tough and young people aren't breeding as much, the aging population sure as shit is NOT gonna give up their benefits. So politicians begin importing people en masse, which in theory shouldn't be an issue. But Europeans are slowly learning that this mass importation is leading to a culture change and friction. It'd be one thing if the people imported were other westerners. We import Hispanics in the Americas, and for as many issues as that presents they are still fundamentally westerners. You guys have the 'death to the west' stock you're so particular of.

[@Yawnyaman]

Good points, but the people you import are usually a net drain on public finances.

[@mattmccallum2007]

Israel has kept their moral high. Its people are confident in their mission, and woman and their children are seen as essential to ensure Israels future. Meaning in most “white” countries motherhood is denigrated.

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

Blame feminism

[@ज्योत्स्ना1]

@@constantinethecataphract5949 and the red-pilled community which is mostly made of edgy 15-year-olds who don't know sh!t about the world around them but are quick to blame women for the supposed "downfall of men"

[@mattmccallum2007]

@@constantinethecataphract5949 and what group did an overwhelmingly large number of feminist belong to?

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

@@mattmccallum2007 Oh boy, my account will be deleted again if i answer that lol.

[@tommykarate9397]

@@constantinethecataphract5949 feminism just like communism was invented by jews

[@billusher2265]

Please make videos on - why low birth rates are a problem - responding to popular antinatalist arguments - reviewing proposed demographic solutions

[@jirislavicek9954]

It is simple. - no country ever in history has recovered from extremely low birth rates, it falls into downward spiral and the nation dies off. Weak countries get conquered by stronger ones. Even if that wouldn't happen, steeply declining demography is a disaster from economic standpoint, few people in productive age must provide for large generations of elderly. It is loss of cultural identity. - antinatalism is by definition anti-human. We portrait German national socialists as supervillains (which they were), but portrait antinatalists as moral. That makes no sense. - solution is complex, but it will surely include religion and return to traditional family model, promoting family values, motherhood and curbing down feminism ( good luck with that in current society)

[@tann_man]

he has already

[@alexpotts6520]

@@jirislavicek9954 I think your solutions involve putting a lot of genies back into bottles. Politics is the art of the possible and your proposals are impossible. And "curbing down feminism" isn't even a solution, lol. Why are you blaming women for low birth rates anyway? Last time I checked you needed one of each to make a baby...

[@vistagreat9994]

@@jirislavicek9954 -3 Don't forget banning contraception.

[@hyhhy]

​@@jirislavicek9954 Solution first and foremost requires a strong and competent government that is also actually interested in solving such issues, otherwise nothing much gets done. Control of the media and what it tells the people is probably one of the key factors.

[@zizzyballuba4373]

People don't realize how long it would take even with a low fertility rate for a population to be reduced to nothing. The curve for population halving every generation is asymptotic above zero and gets flatter the lower it gets. And people also don't realize that you have to account for segments of population with above fertility rate which can dramatically alter the prediction long-term.

[@zorandusic7079]

This. I don't understand why don't we invest in hyper breeders rather than forcing everyone to have kids.

[@frederickthegreat1352]

@@zorandusic7079Problem is, the “hyperbreeders” are usually not the people you want more of.

[@marko1263]

Everyone nation to have it's own version of Haredi Jews/Amish/Laestadians?

[@undergroundsound7419]

What youre saying isn't realistic all this countries have economies, that means labour old people don't work and with a declining population you have more old people and less young people that keep the country running and contribute to pension of the old, so yes it will take a long time for a population to be reduced to nothing but much before then. I doubt that country would even still be properly functioning since the young are likely to leave due to over taxation

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@zorandusic7079 the problem is there is active propoganda and indoctrination destroying the majority of demographics that are hyper breeders absorbing them into the wider population and actively fighting against the encorugments to breed, and the only hyper breeders that are not affected are in cultures that are not enthusiastic to cooperate in a stable modern society. You thus need to encourage everyone to breed so that the hyper breeders can be reignited in the general population, and so that people are not discouraged into becoming a hyper breeder by the general population.

[@4mb127]

The question is: how much are people willing to rewind the hedonistic tools of technology and go back to the scary and uncomfortable real life.

[@cogitoergosum9129]

True story

[@abdiganiaden]

This is like saying let’s give up houses and go back to caves

[@fluffycolt5608]

The answer is: not much. You included, writing this on some sort of device.

[@dave_sic1365]

I dont think we have to. House prices and Land on the country side will be cheap, we will be able to afford cars, computers and machinery to do hard or monotone work for us. Working office jobs in the winter time will be the norm.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

Why SHOULD they? Billions worked hard CREATING those technologies to make future people's lives easier: Future relative to those in the past, still in OUR past.

[@ZoomerHistorian]

Was just wondering if you had a video on this earlier as I was listening to your other stuff, great! Looking forward to watching tonight

[@declan11ful]

I just got done listening to your Nuremberg Trial vid great stuff

[@bomberharris1943]

Well, fancy seeing you here!

[@randomhuman2595]

Question: Why did you say that the alliance between the USSR and Germany was purely out of convenience rather than ideological similarity, but then argue that the alliance between Ukrainian forces and Germany proves that Germany had friendly relations with slavic people?

[@dinarichyperborean1455]

@@bomberharris1943 Based bombmaxxer

[@bilodeaumichael3]

@@randomhuman2595 The alliance with Ukraine demonstrates that the NSDAP was perfectly willing to have an actual alliance with Slavs. The USSR was not inherently Slavic, it was a Bolshevik group running a massive nation of summarily enslaved Slavs whom they despised and devastated tine and again. No real alliance can be made between the National Socialist and the Bolshevik Communists, because their ideologies are inherently opposed. However, the Slavic peoples can be worked with, alliances made etc.

[@danbaltic9678]

To get a woman in Eastern Europe is easy. To get a committed wife and long-time partner with family values is super hard. Especially at younger demographics, below -+30

[@jirislavicek9954]

Spot on!

[@baronvonjo1929]

I grew up in the Bible Belt of the US. The older I get the more I realized how phony and hollow tradionals values and people were. This was America not Europe. But I dont think there would be much difference. Many older tradional folks might act like they are morally superior and have better morals and lives. But most of em dont. It was kinda a shock to me learning so. Be they young or old many people are twisted.

[@sebsebski2829]

@@baronvonjo1929 It's not the same. American protestants are very different from European Catholics.

[@lilestojkovicii6618]

Yes because they realize importance of family values only after they turn 40 or so

[@baklazha]

Literally every man talks like that, in every country, so it’s not a E European problem

[@LancesArmorStriking]

Careful with that title, you'll summon all the Poles saying "wE'Re cEnTRaL EurOpeAn!!1"

[@dixonhill1108]

Yes central Europe is in the east lol. That stuff is such nonsense, you were communist you are in the east now and forever. The east west faultline is between east and west germany.

[@glowiak3430]

The european union ate our demography and now wants to eat our remainings.

[@rafaelmolini4164]

The USA is doing same with central and southern American, fertility rates plumitting and population declines are about to start due to people leaving. Feel for Eastern European, especially the people of the Balkans.

[@austriasalzburg]

So you blame the EU for Central and Eastern Europeans not having more children and leaving their homeland for western Europe and the USA?

[@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise]

Take some accountability, it wasn’t the eu that reduced your birth rate

[@abdiganiaden]

@@austriasalzburg they’ll blame anything but themselves even blaming migrants even though migrants don’t favor Eastern European lmao

[@aaroncruz9181]

Russia : oh hell nah *invades*

[@FOLIPE]

I think the argument of the video is very strong. The internet is a powerful tool that disconnects people from their social reality and connects them to an immaterial global context. This means natural socialization which leads to family formation declines, and it also means that people start associating themselves culturally and ideologically to things very different from their peers and that don't emerge necessarily from their local context (both in the left with progressivism, and in the right with the new alt-right). It's very complicated and this erosion starts from the top of society (the conected, anglophone upper classes, where fertility in Brazil already is ultralow) but has gotten to a point that it now affects the bulk of the population as well.

[@rudy3830]

It's over bros, millions will cease to exist

[@scottanos9981]

Billions must

[@UniDeathRaven]

millions? how bout half of human race and that is 4b.

[@PeruvianPotato]

@@UniDeathRaven Sure, start with yourself

[@sebastiankala1093]

Teacher has asked a question in my uni classroom, composed of 90% female students. "Do you want to have children?" Only around 50% answered yes. Other question was "Can you imagine having children right now?" Only me and one girl raised a hand. So yeah. We are doomed.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

Raising more than 1 or 2 children in an urban apartment is a nightmare! Sometimes even two children is almost too much because this often requires a 3-bedroom apartment. That does not come cheap!

[@ryanfalgoretti]

they move to rural areas

[@here_we_go_again2571]

@@ryanfalgoretti If they can afford to do so and are able to get to their job.

[@mysterioanonymous3206]

Parent here... Let me tell you, parenting is f'in hard. Job doesn't care, no accommodations at all. Can't do part time and still earn well. Home office big no no, maybe 1 day if you're lucky. Childcare expensive af - unaffordable for average earners so one parent sacrifices the "career". And people stare you down when the kid screams in public (as children do). It's the most ungrateful role you could possibly come up with.

[@belstar1128]

i don't know what its like were you are but were i live apartments are more expensive than houses but a lot of people still choose to live there for some reason

[@here_we_go_again2571]

@@belstar1128 Some people do not want to have a long commute to work. An hour or more each way, to and from work day really chews up one's time.

[@MiSt3300]

Putin's "little war" of colonial conquest is further speeding up this process. Ukraine was a 50 million people country in 1991, but now will have less people than Romania. This is a complete catastrophe. ( I am Polish btw)

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

Colonial conquest? You mean like how ukriane was bombing itself for almost a decade. Didn't care about 'colonialism' back then did you.

[@crsx1861]

Less than Romania, really?

[@gilgameschvonuruk4982]

​@@matthiuskoenig3378they were defending themselves against foreign funded terrorists. Turkey also waged a war against separatists

[@JohnD-zh9st]

@@gilgameschvonuruk4982 insane to see someone compare to the separatists in Donbas with the Kurds, lmao. And guess who propped up the Kurdish separatists for a long while? Turkey's ally USA

[@kirishima638]

@@matthiuskoenig3378found the Putin bot.

[@Jaba22-t7y]

I live in kosice , at the very backward poor edges of the EU and even here ive noticed many east Asian and south Asian people and their kids living here. If there are coming here you can expect many more of them in Poland and Czechia in the future.

[@kirannnnnn]

Who are south Asians? How many indians living your country? Google it Indians are majority Hindus which has nothing to do with Islam Christianity Judaism

[@NoctLightCloud]

to be fair, I know 3 polish girls, 1 Czech, and 2 Romanians who moved to Japan. It's not one-sided.

[@asdasdwrwe32-bh3gw]

@@NoctLightCloud It is given the numbers, and anyway, Europeans going to Japan doesn't magically mean Indians should come here.

[@iamafire1521]

East Asians currently have a LOWER fertility rate than most Europeans, but idk about South Asians

[@greyowl3787]

28:43 “People are not interested in thinking about [the demographic crash] in logical terms. They are emotionally invested in their truths.” Yeah. That pretty much summarizes today’s society, sadly. On a whole range of issues.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

You are wrong if you think "today's" society thinks differently than ANY other time in history in "logical terms". You don't know what logic is. Logic refers to whether what someone says or does is logically consistent with some general rule they said earlier. "Logical terms" does NOT mean "AGREE WITH MY POLITICAL OPINIONS"

[@peatherwasad1381]

Hi, im from Chile, the situation here is decent I guess, the biggest issue is the cost of living is high af, specially for young people, the usual age people is going out from their parents house is rapidly nearing 30 years old, so is hard to have children in a small house that's allready full of people.

[@JohnJourdan88]

Your population is aging fast. You’re already taking in immigrants from Haiti and Bolivia. It’s over

[@bdleo300]

I considered moving from Europe to South America, probably to Argentina; although with all their problems I'm not so sure. But trust me, Europe is s%*-t these days (and I'm from the Western Europe)

[@sure_is6113]

I was born in 2001 and live in Poland and want to have kids but I can completely understand people in my generation who think this is just not in the works for them. 1. Inflation 2. Home prices through the roof 3. War and conscription threat 4. No presence of extended family (literarily have no relationship with aunts uncles, brothers, sisters and grandparents so expect that raising kids is something they have to do alone) 5. Changing gender realities while gender expectations remain the same (both men and women) 6. Widely spread and propagated hedonistic worldviews 7. Living under the constant threat of „climate catastrophe” means they have gotten used to living without any ambitions and aspirations because it’s all pointless. 8. Increased migration from non European countries and weaponised immigration 9. Very little social and emotional intelligence (lockdown in their most formative young adult years, living with social media) 10. Motherhood being villainised by many vocal social groups I mean the list goes on… Unless there is some kind of huuuge ideological/cultural change proportionate to the end of communism (only referring to scale) I can’t see any way out of this.

[@karjolaking4586]

The worst for our populations is yet to come, great video.

[@diegoramirez7901]

Chilean here, The main reason for the decline in fertility rate is the rapid economic development of the country in the last 30-40 years. Due to the liberalization of the economy and opening of markets, the possibilities of quality and good-paying employment increased for a significant sector of the population. This leads to the classic decision of women to prefer career development over family formation. This is added to the fact that Chile, despite not being such a high-income country (almost 25.000 usd per-capita), is quite expensive and having children becomes a heavy economic burden. From the beginning of the 20th century (6.16) until today (1.68), the fertility rate has constantly declined and in recent times has only increased in small fractions due to the massive influx of Caribbean immigrants. And also, the mean age is now 35 years so we are aging quite fast. Does it sound familiar?

[@antilunio]

Chilean here: The main reason is the cost of living. Being a neo-liberal experiment, there is limited state support for ensuring education and healthcare, disincentivizing fertility. At the same time, the rise in women in the labor market in the last decades fueled the delay in having children. The income differences are abysmal when weighing the "benefits" of having children compared with the benefits of not having them.

[@tulipalll]

a fair point, but we've seen multiple counts now of people refusing to have children even when the price barrier is removed.

[@TheDragonofRevelation]

​@@tulipalllSince when? I can't speak for Chileans but I imagine the social assistance for child rearing in a nation like Peru is far worse than in a developed nation.

[@jeliazkodimitrov3235]

Demographics of Ukraine Live births: 2012: 520,705 2023: 187,387

[@GoofusPlays]

What a catastrophe. Win or lose, in the current war, Ukraine is doomed as a nation, this is tragic.

[@ihorv44]

there is a war in Ukraine from 2014. russia has no war but the population of russians also decreasing. 1989 147 342 000 2002 145 306 500 2010 142 849 500

[@Srbenda126]

@@ihorv44 yeah but they annexed most of Donbass and Crimea which is 7 million people. Some fled to Ukraine, some from rest of Ukraine moved to Russia and maybe half a million Russians left since 2022. Population of Russia is probably close to 150 million now

[@ihorv44]

@@Srbenda126 putin said there are already 300 million russians. don't you believe putin, comrade Ivanov?

[@littlemad568]

@@Srbenda126 146.2 Probably it counts with annexed regions.

[@horvatlovren7198]

In the Balkans fertility rates for all countries are underestimated due to unaccounted for emigration. Best example is Kosovo. The fertility rate of 1.65 on wiki assumes a population of 1.8M ... however Kosovo likely has 1.5M inhabitants. So their fertility rate for example is actually above 2.0.

[@milostomic8539]

Less than 1 M live in Kosovo, including all nationalities. Around 40,000 people annually, mostly Albanians, migrate from Kosovo to Western Europe and Scandinavia.

[@ज्योत्स्ना1]

More Albanians in future Serbia then.

[@horvatlovren7198]

@@milostomic8539 I see Serbs say this all the time. Given the number of children born in Kosovo yearly, less than 1 Million residents would mean the Albanian fertility rate is 3-4 kids per woman ! that is just not possible in 2023. Kosovo also still has more than twice as many births as deaths ... while Serbia and my Croatia is opposite.

[@milostomic8539]

@@horvatlovren7198 That was 30 years ago. Have you ever been to Kosovo?

[@horvatlovren7198]

@@milostomic8539 No, the statistics I am talking about are for 2022, not 30 years ago. And Yes, I was in Mitrovica for a friends wedding 2 years ago. The difference between Albanian south and Serbian north was big. The south side of the river where Albanians lived seemed full of young people and liveliness, while the northern part seemed dead and mainly with old people.

[@ilyapolishuk5126]

I think a major reason for decline of TFR in the post-covid period is an increase of the real estate prices and inflation. Generally speaking, bringing and rising children becomes very expensive. And no gevernement can compensate these costs. So with time there is less and less "philantropes" which are ready to bring kids and sponsor the society. And more those who hope to be sponsored by children of others.

[@ukasz6310]

i think it can be some factor, but not the main one. From my perspective you dont have children if there are no couples. And there are less couples, because between 2020 - 2022 the young people had no option to get know each other, they were closed mostly alone at home. Just because of that, you can also see a huge wave of mental problems right now.

[@ten_tego_teges]

That and lockdowns have isolated people: both directly and by pushing remote work significantly. Takes two to tango, if you don't meet a spouse you obviously won't have a kid.

[@FOLIPE]

Also rises in unemployment and sluggish economy. The overall environment is massively pessimistic for the first time, really, since ww2.

[@mysterioanonymous3206]

Yeah good point. I think that whole "living off someone else's children" will probably turn into a public, mainstream discussion rather soon. I, as a father, think of that a lot. I'm also starting to think about my wealth structure to set up my kid so he doesn't have to slave away to sustain the ego- maniac a** holes.

[@alexpotts6520]

I just really don't think this adds up from a zoomed-out perspective. You take the long view of human history, it is affluence, not deprivation, that is correlated with low fertility. Countries have invariably seen their birth rates fall as they industrialise; and the countries with the highest birth rates today tend to be the poorest. We've also seen this with various countries trying to create financial incentives to have kids - it has been very expensive and delivered zero extra babies. Which is confusing from a homo economicus perspective but actually makes more sense if you just think about how humans operate. Can you imagine a wife flirtatiously winking at her husband and saying, "the government just introduced a tax break if we have another kid, damn doesn't that put you in the baby-making mood?" People never had kids for economic reasons so thinking that economic incentives will persuade them to have more is perverse.

[@Revolutionary1449]

Call to action - everyone go to your ancestral homelands and have a big family

[@Peter_739]

Isn't Africa our common ancestral homeland? It has the highest fertility.

[@tann_man]

@@Peter_739 no that's outdated soyienceTM

[@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986]

I don’t like my ancestral homeland and is why I want to leave it. Why would I force myself to stay in Britain when there’s so many better options?

[@alexpotts6520]

@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 Fair enough. But it kind-of kneecaps your ability to credibly criticise anyone else for likewise wanting to ditch their own birth country for yours, don't you think?

[@recurrenTopology]

Nah, KB is right, most societies are destined for cultural collapse, ethnicity is no longer important. Instead find the fittest mate you can land regardless of ethnicity to give your offspring the best genes you can. If they are of a different ethnicity even better, it's a free bonus, as studies suggest that children of distantly related parents are smarter and taller than average (when controlling for parental intelligence and height).

[@pedrokarstguimaraes1096]

A detail is about divorse… a woman to get married a second time, it doesn’t help to have more than one child. Then, relation is no seen as for life… It might be the strongest factor?

[@jesperburns]

What?

[@marko1263]

On the positive side, a decade or two ago Eastern Europe was a negative exception when it comes to demographics while nowadays it's just another region dealing with the same problem (and doing better than many places such as Chile, Spain, China or Korea). In football terms, even if we're making mistakes, our rivals aren't taking advantage of it. The only exceptions are Africans (this is temporary i think) and Jews (who are...a rather unique people).

[@Mayhzon]

The last group you mentioned is causing these issues for us, by manipulating our legislative bodies. These legislative bodies than write legislation that hurts us severely. Not that they didn't before, but they make it worse.

[@revolutioninc7081]

It’s not just Eastern Europe, nearly the entire world aside from most of Africa has seen their birth rate collapse below sustainable levels these last couple decades.

[@revolutioninc7081]

@@dantesparda7719 I don’t know much about it, isn’t Northern Africa populated by Europeans like French Algeria? or is it the local population as well.

[@revolutioninc7081]

@@dantesparda7719 thanks for the I’ll pick it up after my current book, feminism as an ideology has done more harm to birthrates than most people give it credit for. As it typically evolves to demand eventually impossible standards and becomes antinatilist in nature, it also raises termagants and women who emasculate their societies men which weakens everyone as the culture demands they are contort to be forced to play emotional games rather than a patriarchal dating system and screws with people’s way of thinking given a few generations.

[@vindaloo99]

Your statement about the middle class having low birth rates (because of the fear of changes to society) compared to both the rich and poor got me thinking... On an individual scale, we see this statement is often accurate: Trump and Elon Musk, as well as poorer people in most developed countries having higher birth rates. But on a country scale, it seems only poor countries ever have high birth rates - no "rich countries" have high birth rates... I guess because the people that aren't "rich" within the rich country are middle class, that leads to low birth rates.

[@tann_man]

Cost of living is crucial. Switzerland is "rich" but everything is expensive for its citizens.

[@aaroncruz9181]

They want to stay rich.

[@vindaloo99]

@@tann_man very true, its a interesting dilemma, especially for smaller countries that are greatly affected by demographic changes like immigration.

[@lucaslevinsky8802]

"Rich" countries are predominantly middle class

[@autotuna3805]

Between 1850 and 1950, it was actually rich countries which had high birth rates. People were less selfish and more family oriented. And a father could easily feed his wife and 4 children from his own job, because the money he earned had actual value and was not devalued by inflation. We have to realize that this mass depopulation is not happening by coincidence, but there is an agenda behind it.

[@josepheridu3322]

I hate to say it, but we cannot care for a 70 or 80% population of elders. Younger people will not be able to raise kids while paying like 80% in taxes. My solution would be to let childless people on their own, and ideally take away voting power from them. Otherwise they will vote for their own interests at the cost of the dwelling younger population. Beside, childless people (like me) had time and opportunities to make and save and invest their own money instead of spending on children, so if they didn't, that should be their problem. Society WILL have to somehow show the consequences of this. Ancient tribes knew how important fertility was because the effect was immediate, but today we pool resources and expect others to pay for it.

[@mysterioanonymous3206]

Spot on. Everyone thinks it won't affect them until they lay on the floor with a broken hip and no one will be there to scoop them up. Your old and immobile and now you shit your pants and it's all over your kitchen floor? Well, social services will visit you Wednesday in two weeks. Your alloted time is 8.5mins. Hope that's enough. A private contractor is available immediately but they charge you 4500 EUR. Hope you saved up, like really really saved up. Think I'm kidding? No I'm not. Thanks for coming to my ted talk. Good luck everyone.

[@singingsquirrel2030]

While I agree with you, the problem is that only women matter to a country's birth rate. They don't even track how many children a man has- nor could they without mandatory paternity tests in a largely post marriage population. Nations would have to end pensions completely. Elderly parents can hopefully lean on their children while the childless have to figure it out.

[@hyhhy]

To expand on your voting idea... What might be better is letting caretakers of underage children vote not just for themselves but for their children too, until they reach adulthood. This would make people with children relatively a much more powerful voting block without taking anything away from anyone. However, this might have the problem of skewing voting power more towards the "haves" of society, who already were able to start families and have children, without helping the "have-nots" to start families in the first place. Probably unrealistic in any case but kind of fun to think about.

[@JohnJourdan88]

Your analysis is awful. Most childless people are men who were unselected. Brilliant idea taxing a rejected population of frustrated males.

[@zaznobach]

I think pension system will be reworked based on number of children you have. Current Ponzi scheme-like system is unsustainable.

[@sheridansherr8974]

My list of reasons for low fertility: 1. Easy domapine at your fingertips (tiktok etc) 2. Rising costs of living and permanent state of crisis. 3. Negativity pouring out from media, doomsday atmosphere 4. Living in fear and stress (high cortisol from chronic stress) 5. Hostile ugly depressing architecture, child- and familiy unfriendy 6. Planned by world economic forum and other "elites"

[@user-mm6dn9mx4z]

Its mainly women's rights

[@waluigisim]

@@user-mm6dn9mx4zeven countries without women’s rights are experiencing decline in fertility

[@WilliamSantos-cv8rr]

You can sum up all of that in the "destruction of family structure"

[@sheridansherr8974]

@@WilliamSantos-cv8rr that would be only the point 6.

[@thefabulousgecco422]

I love the 3rd reason, it's the biggest factor contributing to low fertility rates

[@akexmarrero]

Guys it is incredible how materialistic the world has become that the only way people measure a countries prosperity is through how good they are at making money. I came from a very poor country to a very rich one. I can tell you the people in the poor country were much happier. Yes there was hardship, but they had something many western countries are loosing very fast. A social life, a good relationship with their family, good friends and most of all time. But of course Eastern Europeans have a habit of always dreaming and fantasizing about the west. Until they live there for ten years and realize it is no paradise. There are problems there you never imagined you would have to deal with back home.

[@arkosilaura]

Right. And compared to even an impoverished human life, an ape's short and unsophisticated life is a relatively happier and more carefree one. We should be aiming higher than base creatures at the mercy of nature. Being scared back into the forests and caves by the complexity of a technologically advanced future is not the solution to our problems.

[@TheDragonofRevelation]

As someone in the West I don't care about the overly material aspects of life, I care about affording the basics which I simply cannot do without becoming indebted beyond my financial abilities to pay back the loans I would need to take in order to pay for a family.

[@anshulkatare]

It takes 20 years to make a 20 year old human. Demographics can't be changed in instant, nor you can throw money at the problem. I see it this way, In human race there are very few real women left. All females want or pushed towards generating wealth. Running after resources and wealth is a mans trait, and since culture forcing females to pursue a mans trait has left us with very few real women. So out of 100 people there are 10 women and 40 pseudo men and 50 men. This model is unsustainable to say the least. I see no light at the end of the tunnel.

[@EarthForces]

This, different regions will come to this phenomena at some point, the population shrinkage will eventually be a global phenomenon. Africa will definitely be the last region to experience this. It will be a close contest between the Old Continent along with Russia and East Asia to shrink to almost extinction levels of population probably after a century if the trends continue.

[@venus_envy]

This sounds very pseudo-social science-y. Like bro social science, lol. Women have always had to fight to survive and gain resources. The biggest myth people seem to believe today is that women only started working during the world wars, only entering the workforce en masse post war. The truth is, most women have always had to work, because most women have not belonged to households wealthy enough for them not to work. That's not s a new phenomenon. Women worked in textiles, in mines, they made chains, they were seamstresses, they were bakers, brewers (very traditional female job, that one), farmers... the list goes on and on.

[@yogikarl]

In German there is a word it's : gesundschrumpfen - means : shrinking towards healthiness

[@vahangood5999]

I am from Armenia and live in the US for almost 20 years. I am almost 40 and never married and never fathered kids. When I was younger I thought about it but as I moved into my early 30s, I was seeing more cons than pros in marriage and kids. Now, even if you magically could eliminate the above mentioned cons, I will still likely avoid marriage and fatherhood because I enjoy the pros of single life! And I observe that I am not the only one. There is a cold war going between men and women on a massive scale - we hardly even talk to one another so less people meet and marry. I enjoy watching the decline of the civilization from the comfort of my couch!

[@gimmelicorice]

I’m Baltic, live the same way and agree.

[@baha3alshamari152]

TBH countries birth rates depend on women not men since only women can get pregnant So you are not making any difference anyway

[@mangolemon4117]

Smart comment, I agree

[@Novgorod_Republic]

Have you ever thought about the meaning of life? Why do you even live? You won't leave anything behind, as if you never even lived in the first place.

[@mangolemon4117]

@@Novgorod_Republic hmmmm, if I never leave anything behind, who will be sad for it when I die?

[@AmericanImperium1776]

I do believe a crash is coming, but after the initial chaos, things might not be so bad. A smaller population isn’t necessarily a bad thing. (The bad comes from trying to bring in migrants to compete with natives) A smaller population also means there’s less of a tax base for governments to spend on the military or social programs. People will adapt, we’re nothing if not resilient.

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

A smaller population is terrible if you are a neighbor to giants like Turkey or Russia.

[@AmericanImperium1776]

@@constantinethecataphract5949 I was talking about western countries and the United States. Yeah, countries next to Russia or Turkey are screwed, but weren’t they always screwed?

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

​@@AmericanImperium1776 We would be less screwed if Greece had let's say 20 million people instead of 10 million

[@belstar1128]

yea but it depends on how small the population will be

[@belstar1128]

@@constantinethecataphract5949 russia and turkey got the same problem

[@vasilistheocharis164]

Nations will die. It's a shame that they have to but the winds of time wear out even the greatest of mountains. I am sad but all I can do is struggle and hope that my family will survive.

[@MMerlyn91]

It's a bizarre world when we seem to regret communism here in Eastern Europe. Yes, life is much nicer now. But there is no real future for us young people here, small wages and no housing, hence why the fertility rates are abysmal. We've been tricked and it's hard to admit it but admitting you have a problem it's the first step in changing it.

[@editfazekas3854]

Our life seems much nicer now when you look at consumer goods. Materially we live better but we have lost moral and values without which there is not future- the next generation will not be given life in time/number. This is how values and future can never be separated.

[@JohnJourdan88]

The iron curtain ironically shielded you guys from postmodernism.

[@demystify1567]

The current situation is far preferable to communism and Russian domination, and there is no reason to think extinction is necessarily baked into the Western system. We can have our cake and eat it.

[@bdleo300]

Corpo-globalism is much worse than communism

[@mirianakovachevic748]

Yes, but don't forget how many people communists killed. Both systems are bad.

[@pakoti96]

During the Ottoman rule, Bulgarians experienced a massive population decline. I heard our population went down to the hundreds of thousands. Forty years ago we were over 9 million. This is why I loved the ending of your video: "A window seems to be opening for something new." Amen

[@Legendary9000]

Plz do a demographic revolution of African countries like Nigeria that would be interesting

[@SAINTMAURICE-tl7kb]

The stats about african and south america are fake, or else it would reveale who they really are.

[@hydoffdhagaweyne1037]

As a Black guy, I must say that - if the demographic trends in Africa continue as it is, the world will be in a bad shape after a couple of decades.

[@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise]

⁠@@hydoffdhagaweyne1037what does that even mean man, we should be happy African birth rates are still continuing despite western efforts to reduce birth rates in all countries

[@ChristianDoretti]

@@hydoffdhagaweyne1037 Africa will peak and go down, it happened in China, Modernity will make any country collapse, which is why Africa is still not there yet

[@hydoffdhagaweyne1037]

@@ChristianDoretti I doubt Africa will ever become a modern continent, I live here(Somalia) and I always shake my head when people mention things like this.

[@Witnessmoo]

Criminally underrated channel … I bet it wasn’t this bad since the armies of Subotai visited Poland 😂

[@azeke8]

I suggest you have a look at demographics of Kazakhstan. It is the only case I know of where the current fertility rate is higher than that of 35 years ago, even when taking into account the changed ethnic makeup. It is also the only country in the world that had a baby boom during COVID lockdown.

[@MrUrze]

Interestring, Deserves a depper look

[@azeke8]

@@MrUrze Apparently, the current TFR of Russians, Germans and Koreans in Kazakhstan is near the replacement rate. Returning to the level of 1989. Thus being much higher than in their own countries. Korean population in Kazakhstan is slowly increasing, the other two have decreasing population due to older average age and emigration. In 1990s and early 2000s there was the same fertility crash as in the rest of combloc countries. Kazakhs had TFR of 3.6 in 1989, 2.1 in 2001 and now have TFR of 4. A complete rebound has occurred. People say that this is because half of the population died in 1930s and Kazakhs became a minority in their own country constituting only 30% of the country’s population in 1959. So having children to survive as a nation became part of their psyche.

[@belstar1128]

Kazakhstan is sparsely populated so maybe the people feel like there is a need for more people ?

[@BozaCukuranovic3223]

The country is also significantly wealthier than before.

[@azeke8]

@@BozaCukuranovic3223 It’s still rather poor. Median wage is $500 after taxes. In other countries increased “wealth” doesn’t increase fertility. If anything it usually decreases it. Just look at Saudi Arabia. They went from TFR of 7 to 2 within 40 years.

[@pablozuta2402]

I'm Chilean , and yeah , people are having less kids mostly for economic reasons , also a lot of women don't wanna have children because that could interfere with their professional careers , you rarely see big families anymore except in very rich or very poor people

[@carolebarker2195]

I have five children, grown up now, and live in the uk. This is not a typical family for a native Brit. For some reason many of my contemporaries were not interested in continuing their bloodline. Maybe if they did we wouldn't have had all the current problems with mass immigration. I noticed schools and hospitals closing down in the 90s as the uk birthrate was declining.

[@zealmediaproductions844]

Most friends I have in Portsmouth have 4 kids minimum most of them single mums I think the government are putting out fake stats

[@bigbadwulf5785]

5:22 This data doesn't take immigration into account so its bascially useless without making a distinction here. The real "german" birth rate is lower than 1.0, but being propt up by turkish/syrian immigrants. 10:28 Literally a lot of the nations with lower inflation have also lower birth rates, what the hell are you trying to prove here? It has literally no connection at all. 10:41 This also has only a minor effect if you would look at the wars that happened before the nineties... Wars have been part of eastern europe since the dawn of time... They still made lots of children before, so again this has nothing to do with the birth rate. Why did you always cut off the graph of the birth rates before were there was a way higher birthrates? You think just looking at 40 years of data is enough or what? Why did you not mention the areas where there is still high birth rates like the amish or the orthodox jews in israel? Because if you looked at them maybe you could have found out the real reason for birth rates collapsing.

[@JohnSmith-ns8do]

The part about Germany isn’t entirely true. Though the Muslim immigrant population (Turkish/Syrian) have contributed to an increase in birth rate, the birth rate of ethnic “Germans” isn’t below 1.0. The PEW research Center estimates that the birth rate for ethnic Germans is at around 1.4 children per woman while the birth rate of Muslim woman in Germany is at 1.9 (which is the lowest in Europe for Muslim woman).

[@derKrampus]

​@@JohnSmith-ns8do thank you for pointing this out.

[@tomasrocha6139]

There aren't that many Muslims to raise the national birthrate that much

[@Sadoyasturadoglu]

There is a big difference between the birth rates of Turks and Syrians.

[@MrEvrit]

Would be very interesting an analysis on Iran, their birthrate rate is plummeting, yet they are probably one of the most conservative countries on earth currently.

[@kirishima638]

Exactly. Blaming it on feminism is ridiculous.

[@MrEvrit]

@@kirishima638 I remember reading in academic text back in Uni about history of economics, there was a small chapter about birthrate. Essentially it blamed low birthrate on urbanisation; the more people move to the cities the less children they make. Still I think it's pretty reductive to blame it only on that but it's certainly an important factor.

[@jasser6470]

​@@kirishima638 I have heard that the Iranain government will prohibit any activity promoting birth control. It has also banned government health services from providing family planning services and will create a database for all of Iran's females fertility. And if I understand it right, it will punish those that do not have children to have them they might fix their birth with anti-feminist policies big W to Iran.

[@lilestojkovicii6618]

​@@kirishima638 because feminism is one of the consequences not a sole cause

[@belstar1128]

does Iranian media talk about overpopulation often ?

[@kel8026]

I'm about to have my second kid with the fist almost two years old. I'll definitely be having a third. If I hadn't left it so late, I'd have more, possibly to six would be great. But it's a problem with the age restraint (for women) and also being able to amass enough resources to support them all while you're still young enough. Also the older generation are to blame in the West too; they are pretty selfish, they offer no help and wanna keep their money all for themselves rather than encourage procreation and make it easier for us. They are also 'individualistic' and they don't think it's their place to push their kids to have kids. Thirdly, the topic is too abstract and the effort it takes to have kids is too much they aren't interested or have no clue of the topic/issue. i do feel a possibly small revolution is on the way though, Christianity and child-bearing seem to becoming slightly popular again, particularly on right-wing KZbin channels - which is useful and helpful.

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

If christianity were becoming more popular, fertility rates would increase. But they decrease.

[@kel8026]

@@tomorrowneverdies567 The come back, if there is one, and according to what I have seen, is in its infancy, and will take a long time to show any results.

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

@@kel8026 I will tell you the two most important reason why I cannot believe in christianity: 1. It is metaphysical. And I cannot believe in metaphysics. Only in physics. 2. According to christianity, since every human is equal before god, you are not allowed to determine who will immigrate somewhere according to their phenotype or ethnicity.

[@rumkata]

Respect man💪 You're also probably right about religion. Even though I'm atheist, you made me consider looking into Christianity again.

[@wedoalittletrolling4461]

​​​@@tomorrowneverdies567im sorry but your second point is just nonsense. Yes, all men are equal in God's eyes but that does not mean we should just let everybody cross our borders as they please. One of the core doctrines of Christianity is that there are 3 types of law. Aside from the moral and ceremonial law, there is also the judicial law which is to be obeyed by us as long as it does not lead to sin. Through this, we reserve the right of choosing who is and who is not allowed in our countries. Its why immigration policies exist in the first place. Countries have the right to choose who and how much they take.

[@ares23dc]

Life was always hard and unpredictable. This is not the issue. Families had children during war times, poverty and political instability. The main problem is womenism, which killed the familly unit. Men are no longer interested to participate in a game with 90%+ losing chances. There is absolutely no incentive for men to risk everything they build for decades, and get nothing in return.

[@larslayton4472]

Have you heard of the mouse utopia experiments? It may lend some insight into the effects of urbanization and near limitless food on population evolution.

[@Mohamed1907forever]

This is what is happening in the west now a heaven for decades will lead to destruction

[@LouisMota]

Portugal’s births increased due to the mass immigration because local birth rates have decreased.

[@MirzaAhmed89]

I don't know, I live in Florida and work in a hospital. A lullaby tune plays over the PA every time a baby is born, and it seems to play all the time. At least 3-4 nurses on my floor are on maternity leave at any given time, and I assume the same is true in other departments. All of the nursing assistants (young, low-paid women between 18 and 30 years of age) seem to have 3-6 kids. For all the talk of low fertility rates in developed countries like the US, and despite the high cost of living and low wages, people seem to be having more kids than ever.

[@remowilliams75]

Hi, great insight. « Florida's birth rate fell 22.5% between 2007 and 2022, from 13.02 births per 1,000 people to 10.09 » average USA fertility rate is 11.1. 1.64 child / woman Florida vs 1.66 USA (2022)

[@kambal6746]

👉I am a young man from Poland🇵🇱 , and the true DISASTER just comming. Yours Polish woman are definitely are not going to have kids, nor looking for love. When I was in Czechia 🇨🇿, I was shocked how many families with kids are there and how many young couples are there... So in Czechia🇨🇿 it might be nit so horrible as in Poland 🇵🇱.

[@kambal6746]

And young Poles, especially woman are NOT conservative in general...

[@jirislavicek9954]

I am Czech living in Ireland and I can see the similarities between Ireland and Poland. Both Ireland and Poland were traditionally Catholic countries with high church attendance which transioned into secular / modernist / woke mindset in record short time. The fertility rate in Ireland dropped extremely, it was not uncommon for a woman to have 7 - 8 children even in 1990s and 4 in 2000s. Nowadays young women are not having them anymore. Poland's position was even worse. It started with around 2 kids per woman in 1990 and since it plummeted.

[@kambal6746]

@@jirislavicek9954 Yes, but our current demographic situation is a result of late 1970s-1990s generation of woman. Many families from that generation escaped from poverty to Ireland🇮🇪 and they have kids. Nowadays they are too old and the mindset of younger generation in Poland is different, even worse...

[@ボイイイジーキュー]

As a czech, this is extremely funny because I've heard czech dudes complain about czech women and idealize poland in the way you idealize czechs. The grass is always greener on the other side and all that I guess.

[@ten_tego_teges]

​@@kambal6746I can name 10+ women of the top of my head that would love to have plenty of kids with a Catholic husband. And I live in Warsaw.

[@Michael_the_Drunkard]

Greece is for some illogical reason is not part of Eastern Europe.

[@hebanker3372]

Unlike easten Europe, Greece was under the sphere of influence of the West. Both financialy and culturaly.

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

We are more Southern i guess. We should count as Eastern because of how simmilar we are to other balkan countries.

[@ज्योत्स्ना1]

It's either a part of Southern Europe or the Greater Middle East just like Cyprus. Can't be both tho.

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

@@ज्योत्स्ना1 are Bulgaria, Albania and North Macedonia also parts of the "Greater Middle East" then? The whole of the Balkans maybe?

[@ज्योत्स्ना1]

@@tomorrowneverdies567 No, because people from the above-mentioned countries are of Slavic or Illyrian heritage, while Greeks have historically been more connected to the Middle East. For instance, in the early 20th century, around 2 million Greeks lived in Asia Minor, which includes parts of modern-day Turkiye, Syria, and Lebanon. compared to roughly 4 million Greeks living in Greece at that time. Prior to the Greek War of Independence, the majority of Greeks lived in Anatolia and the northern Middle East. So, without a pro-European bias, one could argue that Greeks are part of the Greater Middle East. Remember that Cyprus, a republic with a majority Greek population of around 70%, is already considered part of the Greater Middle East.

[@Hejhouyou]

I blame feminism more than any other reason, although "technology" would be the close second.

[@sheridansherr8974]

I don't think its feminism. Feminism exists already over 100 years. It is the overal culture decline, bad future perspectives, overwhelming negativity in media. Everything seems ugly, dark, disgusting ( like the eurovision song contest)

[@hebanker3372]

I blame female emancipation. I would actually try to explain who wanted female emancipation, but my comment would get censored.

[@Bleilock1]

"I blame it on treating women as humans"

[@jirislavicek9954]

​@@hebanker3372You can suggest something. I am sure it has plenty to do with occult and secret societies in Western Europe.

[@hebanker3372]

@@Bleilock1 Well, they definitely don't treat us like ones. Respecting and elevating them at equal footing with us is why we are all deep in the shit now.

[@manwiththeredface7821]

22:40 You forgot the massive (even compared to other E-European countries) braindrain that Poland went through since joining the EU and the Poles becoming the 2nd or 3rd biggest ethnic minority community in the UK after Indians, Pakistanis etc. This would explain why as you can see at 6:45 Poland's fertility rate never really came back up.

[@republicofkosovo722]

Almost as if everything is going according to plan…

[@ancapistanowns696]

Yes indeed, the first step is to realize that there is a plan. And that we've been in it for very long - from the 1940s, at least.

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

What plan?

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

@@ancapistanowns696 what plan? evidence?

[@user-mm6dn9mx4z]

Oy vey

[@ayararesara6253]

There is no plan. People are simply naturally egoistic and want more time & resources for themselves, so it's very hard to raise in proper conditions children without sacrifices

[@ofb1583]

You appear to be politically unable to identify the one unifying factor that affects fertility. As soon as females become educated the drop is precipitous, in areas that do not treat women well rates are considerably maintained. Not difficult to identify just politically difficult to say, courage young man!

[@Guess98-co4dc]

I am Romanian and in my country Young people dont want kids, they just want to spend their money for trips, cars and expensive stuff 😂😂

[@heartsofiron4ever]

KaiserBauch mentality: We're all dying, from the moment we're born

[@ksrithan]

Hello! from Thailand, the nation that is about to vanish.😅

[@AbdulSoomro-kj5lt]

Too focused on ladyboys I see

[@tenborck]

Thai women are feminists?

[@TheDragonofRevelation]

What is happening to Thailand?

[@ianjeffrey3637]

sensational summary - very well researched and thoughtfully presented - kudos

[@theastrogoth8624]

So this is why the progressive ideologies of democracy and gender equality have fallen repeatedly throughout history!

[@baha3alshamari152]

Societies that adapted feminist/liberal leaning ideologies thousands of years ago suffered demographic decline and eventually got conquered by more conservative leaning societies as result Nowadays nuclear weapons and globalization prevents that

[@不幸屋の娘-o6l]

Not only Eastern. Western Europeans too. Dying suddenly, having turbocancers and mass infertility since 2021.

[@manwiththeredface7821]

I don't know about "turbocancers" and such but 2020 was a wake up call, having faced the fragility of the economic system for the second time since 2008 in our rather short millennial lives. Starting a family in such a system is like building a house on quicksand.

[@lilestojkovicii6618]

​@@manwiththeredface7821 then why don't you change a system?

[@不幸屋の娘-o6l]

@@manwiththeredface7821 I thought everybody knew about them. Now, millions of young people die from aggressive lethal cancers that didn't exist before 2021.

[@不幸屋の娘-o6l]

@@manwiththeredface7821 I thought everybody knew about them. Now, millions of young people get aggressive lethal cancers that didn't exist before 2021.

[@不幸屋の娘-o6l]

@@manwiththeredface7821 I thought everybody knew about them. There are millions of cases in many countries.