Easy AT&T BGW320 Gateway Bypass with UniFi UDM Pro Max via the WAS-110 SFP ONT on a stick from 8311

[@kabaret3]

"It's important to know what slot you're putting it in" . I can totally relate

[@ktzsystems]

We’re in good company

[@joerobinson8339]

Alex, I can honestly say that I never thought I would be happy to watch you in a PON video...

[@rfitzgerald2004]

These devices are equivalent to an ONT and their purpose is to identify your connection to the ISP's equipment. Different ISPs use different methods to do this but it's common to use a mac address or serial number of the unit. PON is a type of network which stands for Passive Optical Network which is a point to multi-point connection, meaning the fibre cable that comes to your home is shared between many other subscribers (generally less than 64 for most ISPs).

[@OfficialiGamer]

can the point to multi point increase latency? I'm assuming it does, as my ping times have not improved all that much over cable.

[@rfitzgerald2004]

@@OfficialiGamer It shouldn't make a notable difference, if anything it may decrease slightly as long as the ISP isn't congested on their available bandwidth

[@2dfx]

@@OfficialiGamer no, the splitter is merely a prism. Speeds are generally affected on a congested splitter, ping times not so much.

[@hariranormal5584]

@@2dfx a bit untrue. Look at how GPON works. the Frequencies remain the same for everyone, but it uses TDM which is legit time division as it suggestions and that definitely can add latency as you have to wait for your turn to speak data. It's very negligible often than not, but it exists. At least to the point many times ISP's can give you a more active connection instead of using XPON if you say want a Business line or something

[@whatisthissss]

Damn, I wish I could use this for centurylink

[@CubbyTech]

HA! An ONT and a router inside a 10G SFP+ - amazing! I don't think many of us are going to have/use/need 5 Gig, but you're probably good for the rest of the decade now. The fiber connector is a SC-APC type connector - aka 'Stick and Click'.

[@RogierYou]

Glad I moved back to the Netherlands where the ISP can’t prevent you from using your own modem.👍

[@chimpo131]

cool story Boomer

[@estusflask982]

@@chimpo131 lol what

[@JoshHookerJoshhook123]

Any modem you buy isn’t going to be anywhere close to what the was-110 into a custom router. Pipe down if you’re not even xgs-pon

[@stevenPounder-p4b]

Att doesn’t prevent you from using another modem. There just isn’t another modem out there

[@KuntalGhosh]

@@stevenPounder-p4b there is quite a few xgs pon 10g ont's from tplink , vsol and few more. not easy to find. as an isp i have to directly buy from tplink in at minimum 2 boxes so the minimum order is 20 pcs. 10g models aren't available for retail sales outside of aliexpress.

[@505Cisco]

Main reason for this Bypass no One is Talking about or even Know is the 'NAT SESSION MAX ON ATT MODEM" That means ATT Modem has a maximum Nat sessions available and when you get close to it your lattency will skyrocket and internet will stop working. This will Bypass those max limits because you are now using a differen Router or Fiber Firewall that handles the Routing now... It works Great and Highly Recomended for all....

[@lechegaray]

oh gosh how timely, I just figured out all the configuration I needed to do on my ATT fiber modem to stop unifi from spamming me with latency alerts! This is the next level!

[@Alexoladele]

Wanna share that configuration to stop those latency alerts?

[@fflowwiththego]

Please share what you did to reduce that!

[@chiefpoopydick]

Why not just switch to a stand alone ont and use your own equipment thst way.

[@TylerTroglen]

I got mine from the group buy on 8311 at the first of October. It’s been running perfect since getting it set up. Latency has been lower and speeds have been higher. Latency has been much more stable also. Funny part was 3 hours after I switched to it, AT&T text me that my internet wasn’t working :)

[@DlxyRekt]

Has your internet still been stable? Is AT&T spamming you with texts saying your internet is out, or are they making automatic tickets and trying to send a tech out to "fix the issue"?

[@TylerTroglen]

@@DlxyRekt Mine has been 100% stable since i installed. AT&T texted me about 3 hours after the change over and hasn't texted again so far. I have since completely unplugged the gateway and set it aside for now.

[@DlxyRekt]

@@TylerTroglen Oh okay that's great. I'm rarely home so I don't want to deal with at&t driving over and constantly trying to figure out why it says their gayeway is offline lol

[@garryvincatassin7403]

I wish this was available for Open Reach here in the UK, keep up the good content

[@kerbysj]

I've been looking at this. I can't see why you couldn't clone mac onto sfp and remove the ont

[@ktzsystems]

I used to use a FTTC openreach box I got for cheap off ebay. "last mile" was still copper then. Good luck with your FTTH endeavours!

[@chriswatt2702]

I have a 2.5gig Open Reach (optical network transceiver?) Then use an ASUS router as my ISP router uses a different set of LAN IP addresses to my PiHole. It is just a ISP wide password required. EE website quite helpful with that. Ethernet cables are probably more robust for home use.

[@dj_paultuk7052]

In the UK, for BT, the BT ONT Serial Number is what is used for FTTP service authentication. So providing you clone that serial number it should work.

[@chriswatt2702]

@@dj_paultuk7052 we must be talking about different layers. You could enlighten me as to which layer PPOE?? works at. That is all I had to do to set up my router. Since that was 6 months ago I have forgotten the protocol I configured.

[@k6usy]

My ONT is on the side of my house so I would have to get creative to do something like this. I use the dumb switch bypass method. I connect my AT&T router to the ONT with a switch in between and allow the AT&T router to boot. This allows the AT&T router to authenticate my connection with a baked in certificate. Then I unplug the AT&T router and boot up my PfSense box connected to the switch. My PfSense router is spoofing the MAC address of the AT&T router for IPv4 and there is an enterprise client ID I had to pull off the AT&T router with wireshark for IPv6 to work. What I get is a dual stacked internet connection with access to a full /60 IPv6 allocation and none of the NAT limits of the AT&T router. My IPs are also basically static, they have not changed in years so no need for a dynamic DNS service.

[@weholmes5315]

"I don't love it. I don't hate it." 😅 Well, that's a different take on UDM PM than we've heard from Ubiquity fan reviews!

[@ktzsystems]

It’s very expensive for what it is tbh. I rather suspect I’ll end up going back to opnsense or something else entirely self built. STH has a 1u atom based system that is half the price and way more customizable.

[@zstation64]

I feel the same with my UDM SE. It’s meh. It works, that’s about all I can say about it. Sometimes I think my previous gl.inet router running openwrt was better.

[@KeithHeinrich]

That will break the brains of level 1 tech support.

[@vincecatapano9020]

An at&t tech isn't even going to touch this when they call in for a repair ticket. They are gonna check to the ont and call it a day. If the ont is external they will check to the gateway and close the ticket.

[@VlubShiv]

@@vincecatapano9020in order to close a repair ticket the BGW has to be plugged in and working. after the ticket is closed you can use the WAS-110 again.

[@VlubShiv]

@@vincecatapano9020in order to close a repair ticket the BGW has to be plugged in and working. after the ticket is closed you can use the WAS-110 again.

[@vincecatapano9020]

@VlubShiv I know

[@TismoGaming]

I would love to get the stick with the firmware installed. Thats a big reason for me why I didn’t get one yet lol

[@505Cisco]

If you get it from the 8311 group it comes with the latest firmware up to a week old, but it will still work with the old firmware KTZ bought it with.

[@icavv_]

Video was recommended to me, I've got one as well using it on my UDM-SE to bypass Frontier Fiber's ONT.

[@TRS-Tech]

Did you ever try any of the sophos firewall software ? I thought about the ubiquiti router but ended up going with a standard machine for the flexibility. Those ONT modules do run hot, its normal. FYI the FNS in the cabinet normally has a 5 minute timeout on the MAC address and will sometimes reject packets so worth leaving the link down for 5 minutes plus. HTH. 👍 And yes.... DONT tell support, it won't really be seen at the server end if you cloned the mac OK.

[@manuelmesa5069]

Its sometime interchangeable for the SFP you are using they are mostly called ONU and the AT&T modem was the ONT with an ONU module built in. But it's all PON technology. ONT traditionally have no interface and controlled by the OLT.

[@Lars-ju9pw]

As an American we typically say `zee` but I believe the rest of the English speaking world refer to it as `zed`. Thank you for this video. I have a UDM-Pro, and have a question. Does the PON show up as a 10gb device in the SPF+ port or does it show up as a 5gb device? Thanks!

[@ktzsystems]

10FDX once you manually set it. Otherwise it negotiates at 1gb

[@Lars-ju9pw]

@@ktzsystems Excellent, thank you!

[@pixelhabits]

Great video! I have a quick question: will this setup work with static public IP addresses purchased from AT&T for business use?

[@MastahFR]

Yes but that is for you to configure on your router. If you are not familiar with that, good luck ;)

[@AlexandrShut]

Moreover, if you have a business account, ATT may offer different ways to connect your router. The technician said only biz accounts are allowed to be connected directly via SFP avoiding ATT router.

[@505Cisco]

⁠I seriously doubt that, as ATT Modem gets a WAN ip for Modem then give you your LAN ips to use. But would love to find out if it does indeed; i dont have a static account.

[@kylerx7]

same i wanna know this as i use static too. my issue is i figured the gateway was advertising the subnet upstream and if so then this wouldn't work would be interesting to see how it gets configured without the gateway.

[@gg-gn3re]

@@AlexandrShut orly? I have business account and they said you need the box lol

[@ellercompservices]

My only question now is if you have a block of static ip's if those are compatible or not? That will be a big deal breaker for the install I would want to use it on as we need the static block. :/ Great Video!

[@axx8326]

Awesome! Does it get really hot to the point it would need active cooling?

[@505Cisco]

It actually does, temps rise very quickly so i installed active cooling keeping it in line with the operating temp of the ONT Stick. I also bought some bigger cooling fins for it to put on all 3 sides to drop the operating temp down even more; But have not yet cut and mounted it.

[@estusflask982]

@@505Cisco How hot is the max operating temp of it? I imagine it can get very hot with no problem. Cooling it down won't make it perform better, it's not a CPU

[@505Cisco]

@@estusflask982 theres 2 variants on the website one is 160 and other one is 180 i believe. Might work still at its max temp but as we all know the hoter a device gets the components will not last. Also theres a reason why manufacturers come up with limits on devices; shelf life… CPU is a bigger chip, this tiny device also has a cpu but smaller.

[@tompointdll]

Heyyy, let's go, we use the same module for Bypassing Livebox's from french ISP Orange on their new XGS-Pon network, we call this stick an ONT ;)

[@EddieRiveraNow]

This is cool I'd like to try this myself, where did you get your already flashed Stick? Also in the category of you didn't ask but I offered up anyways. for those interested, If you have Att fiber don't use class A ip addresses subnetted to class C on your router, firewall, internal equipment, you will have issues because Att uses the Class A Space for equipment and internal network of their own, as a result you will get routing and nat issues.

[@endian675]

Awesome video, well done! I don't have an issue with this, as I have a proper ONT, but I think my friend does. I'll see if I can convince him to take a look at this (I won't be successful, but 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂)

[@WilliamCollier]

Do you have a static IP block from AT&T and if you do can you use it with the WAS-110? i haven't found any clear answers online. I cant see why you wouldn't be able to but I would like to know for sure before I pulled the trigger. Thanks for the video!

[@gg-gn3re]

Wondering as well, this is the second long video about bypassing this at&t box and nobody responds to anything. I tried finding some forum thread on it too but nothing

[@jatpearson]

Yes you can use static IP blocks, check the pon wiki link

[@johnhaller5851]

I have Frontier, not AT&T, but the ISP controls how many IP addresses they provide. If AT&T offers multiple IP addresses, it should work. Frontier only offers this with business Internet. Otherwise, it's an address provided via DHCP.

[@gg-gn3re]

@@johnhaller5851 you got verizon now, they bought frontier hahah rip you

[@AlexandrShut]

My mind replaces last phrase with "until next time, I'm Jeff Geerling". Am I alone?

[@michaelmacho1]

Oh what a great day. I have been trying to do this exact thing. AT&T pos gateway and modem is a paper weight at best. Thank you 🎉

[@chiefpoopydick]

I can hook you up with a stand alone ont. We can arrange a swap day where i program it for you in att system. Gets you pretty close to what he's doing. You'll just have a ethernet hand-off vs a fancy sfp. Still same reachable speeds. It also avoids conflicts in the system if repairs are needed.

[@k6usy]

@edd189NAT table limits on the AT&T routers are terrible.

[@dearestdennis]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="838">13:58</a> - right here is where I wondered “is that a speed or provisioning profile? I wonder if you can edit it to change the provisioning of the speeds since you’re on different hardware than what they supply with more control”

[@ntsecrets]

This is pretty neat. My only concern is if there are issues on the same PON card at the central office you’re on they might look at the devices connected and single you out. I’m sure they can tell it’s not their ONT. But it’s like buying your own cable modem and unless they provide a proper bridge mode then yeah you end up doing this.

[@vincecatapano9020]

Lol you give at&t too much credit, the techs aren't going to check. If you are using their something other than at&t provided equipment they will close the ticket.

[@toejah]

@@vincecatapano9020 The bigger surprise is that it even works as the ISP i work for has all the Onts be it media converter, sfp or on board locked by unit SN.

[@k6usy]

I have been bypassing AT&T router on my connection for years. Other than their app complaining that my connection is down I have had zero issues.

[@DlxyRekt]

@@k6usy They don't try to send techs out to "fix the issue"?

[@k6usy]

@@DlxyRektnope

[@T313COmun1s7]

Zed is technically the correct version in England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Canada, India, Australia, and New Zealand, and zee is technically correct in the United States.

[@FishWong66]

What if I have a static IP block from ATT? How does it handled by the firmware?

[@duckner]

Same

[@SGCSmith]

It would be great if AT&T did what most other Fiber providers did, and simply provide an Ethernet hand-off. They seem to be one of the only providers using 802.1X or other IP Passthrough nonsense to lock people into using their routers. Their routers have never been great. Getting an SFP+ ONT would be nice, although even some "power user" providers I know of still provide just a basic Nokia ONT so they can manage their end of the network, and provide a simple Ethernet handoff.

[@chiefpoopydick]

Att does. You get the white ont for g optic and alt optic. You get a black ont for x optic. Thst ones got 2 ethernet ports one for 1 gig one for 10 gig. Although we only offer 5 gig you'll use that still.

[@Sdoc0798]

I heard theories that they don’t do that since their router is what provides phone and TV rather than the ONT, even though other providers that do that allow you to use your own router, you just need to create a vlan.

[@chiefpoopydick]

@SGCSmith we can provide a hand-off straight from an stand alone ont.

[@fakebizPrez]

Someone on the Discord dissected the WAS and packed it with some type of thermal plato. Says it makes a significant difference. I have a Dyson Cool blasting on it and the rest of the rack.

[@liam0006]

Great video! Any Australians here that got this working on the Opticomm network?

[@davidr5597]

If you're an AT&T fiber residential customer in the USA and you have Sonic in your area, just convert to them. Fiber comes in the house to a plain vanilla ONT, which can plug direct to your own router. Better service, cheaper and no data caps. Much simpler way to dump AT&T! 🙂

[@ikkuranus]

If you have sonic available then you have bigger problems as you likely live in Commiefornia. Also, AT&T doesn't have caps on fiber plans.

[@davidr5597]

@@ikkuranus They did at first. Guess they figured out that was bad for business!

[@AlmightyEye]

@@ikkuranusU need to unplug your tiny pea brain from Right Wing media and go outside and touch some grass, maybe try getting a girlfriend. You're suffering from brain rot if politics and GOP phrases pop into your head in random ISP talks. People like u only confirm why the GOP loves the poorly educated and illustrate why GOP led states aren't just the poorest fiscally of all states in the U.S., but they're also at the bottom of the barrel in educational standings. 🤡

[@dennispetersen2558]

nice video, I have been toying with the idea of ​​doing the same however my ISP gatewaybox does a real brigdemode and I can't control what happens at the other end of the fiber

[@SOF006]

I notice you don't have IPv6, out of curiosity does your ISP supply IPv6? I found out today that my ISP which provides me 2Gig up and down fibre gives me IPv6 which I had disabled on my OPNSense box, turns out after I enabled IPv6 my download speed shot up to near enough the 2Gig maximum download. Without IPv6 I was only getting around 1.4Gig, wondering if it would possibly be the same for your ISP...

[@carsonswanstrom9955]

What little camera is that? Looks cool!

[@ktzsystems]

It’s a DJI Osmo pocket 3. It’s really been a superb addition to my filming arsenal. Reduces friction so much.

[@gg-gn3re]

What does the AT&T not bridge properly? are there forums for discussion on this? I noticed after about a year of uptime it needs a hard restart because it'll start dropping 40%+ of packets lmfao You can run the wifi on it with the dynamic leased ip and run the ports with your static ip block they sell you which is kinda funky too

[@chiefpoopydick]

I get asked this question often. Bridge mode does "work" majority of the time i suggest not using bridge mode. What I've found is in bridge mode it only talks to 1 device. If your using wifi st the time it will cause all sorts of issues. If your plugged into it and the device your wanting to use for bridge is not then it will cause errors. The only way I've got bridge to work properly is to have the cx IT there with me. Plug his stuff in. I remote in turn off wifi, firewalls, set statics, then go into bridge mode selecting the devices mac address. Ultimately I'll request not using bridge as majority of the customers using a 320 for their services do not even have a need for bridge.

[@frostbite1991]

ISP modem/routers suck at routing and have little to no firewall. Running it in bridge mode turns off level 2 routing and lets your router handle ALL the workload. For the average person an ISP modem/router is probably fine, but for those who have a homelab it's a no-go.

[@Wernerbrandes8088]

Woah, so cool! Any Canadians on Telus with a Nokia ONT here?

[@speedracer9132]

I used to get 12ms ping on the same hardware and tracert always hangs at the 3rd ping

[@ktzsystems]

Mine is right around 10-12ms. What causes the increase? Over subscription?

[@505Cisco]

Yes its the amount of subscribers. Its broken down like this... fiber from home goes back to att box in the street wich was divided by 64 fibers then rides back to att office to equipment wich has cards and in those cards theres other ports too wich do the same as your path. So lets say 100 gigs to each card at office, then it has 10 ports on card so thats 10 gigs each then divides by 64 to each house. So technically it isnt feasable to maintain the speeds of each subscriber

[@estusflask982]

@@505Cisco What does bandwidth division have to do with increased latency and packet loss though?

[@jcnash02]

I used to regularly get 2-4ms on AT&T dedicated business fiber.

[@ThermoCoupleNZ]

Static "route" not "root" lol :-) 🤣🤣🤣 also I noticed you inserted the SFP without a protective cover a bit dangerous can damage your eye sight, best practice leave it installed until your ready to use, but great video all round some excellent information there...

[@thegbm615]

"root" is how it's pronounced in British English

[@ThermoCoupleNZ]

@@thegbm615 I now have a new appreciation for British IT gurus thanks! :-)

[@ktzsystems]

I do my best to translate ya know

[@tonyw6427]

@@thegbm615 Not really. "Root" is how it is pronounced in England and maybe Scotland, but the Welsh probably have their own language word for it, and the Irish have an entirely more derogatory meaning for the word originating from around 1918 (probably). The rest of the old "Empire" that (pretends to) prefer "British English" usually uses the "route" word. I think the English (not the British) use the "root" word as a dig at their old Commonwealth possession "across the pond" who tend to use the word as a plumbing term regarding toilets (or lavatories, or water closets, or bathrooms for our American "cousins"), but that is just a personal opinion. It is just another wonderful example of the etymology of one simple word in the "English language" and its different histories in different locales. And this is not intended as a slight of any sort towards yourself. It is just my perspective and is intended to be humourous (note the spelling with the "u" for the 'Mericans) 😎😁👍

[@thegbm615]

@@tonyw6427 ok

[@donsfromnz6515]

If only I had fibre at home. VDSL2 copper for me in rural outskirts of Auckland NZ

[@tonyw6427]

@donsfromnz6515 - Don't worry too much but Chorus (or whoever "owns" the physical network in your locale) will eventually physically pull all the copper network out. Depending on a planned schedule, it might take 3-5 years, but you should start looking for alternate internet connectivity options. I live in semi-rural Hawkes Bay and had an ADSL2+ connection very similar to yours, and I started to have an increasing number of connection disruptions (earlier this year). When I contacted my ISP, they recognised the problem as being in the copper network "last mile" to my residence and explained that they could not "fix" the issue as the diagnostic equipment required to do that had "failed" and was not going to be replaced (because why put in new equipment that could be redundant within a year (or 3)?). You might like to explore StarLink as an option or a Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP) if there is such an option near you. StarLink is very effective as long as you have a clear line of sight to the sky (i.e. not too many trees or hills blocking you out) but might be cost-prohibitive. A WISP is usually less pricey but can be a bit complicated to get going if there is no local infrastructure. PM me if you want to discuss more. Check my channel for details. I just joined yours (as your first follower 😎) but it is fully private (which is your choice) so I can't PM you. It's entirely up to you. BTW Is the background of your channel avatar taken at the Huka Falls or somewhere further north, presumably on the Waikato River?

[@jeffmiller1140]

Well done!! Subscribed. Thank you!!

[@hayzeproductions7093]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="977">16:17</a> those are upload speeds I need for what I do honestly.

[@asdfasdfasdfasdeff]

I have zero issues using the AT&T ONT and I'm able to get bridge mode where the WAN IP is presented to my Unifi gateway. Curious why I am having an alternative experience than others in this video?

[@voanhnguyenduy7302]

Are you using pppoe or dhcp on the gateway

[@davidreddick3016]

Does this work with giving you the full /60 IPv6 prefix? Comcast who I currently use gives me a full /60 prefix but from what I have read ATT fiber gets a /60 prefix but when using their modem in bypass mode you can only use 8 IPv6 subnets.

[@JeremyBrown-um6vm]

I just got my was-110 from the group buy. When I finished setting it up I tried to setup ipv6 It would not pull any IP addresses until I changed the default 64 to 60.

[@k6usy]

I have my AT&T router bypassed and get the full /60. If you use the junk bridge mode on their router it only gives you a single /64. Apparently there is a way to request up to 8 /64s but I would rather just have the whole /60 and do whatever I want with those IPs. I run 3 internal vLANs and a VPN server each gets its own /64.

[@mr.unknown.]

i wonder if it's possible to do this to the UK's openreach Fiber network, instead of using those crappy Nokia ONTs they provide us with, i would love to find out if it's possible

[@T313COmun1s7]

I'm not familiar with the different UK regional accents, but to my ears you sound like you might be from the same general area as James Corden, or as I refer to him, Craig Owens: Father of Stormageddon, Destroyer of Worlds. Just how far off am I?

[@davidchristensen1219]

Zee/Zed, it's a regional thing. But what I always wondered, why isn't also Bed, Ced, Ded, Ed, Ged, Ped, Ted, Ved, and of course Zed. What makes "Z" so special - except being last.

[@lacerta2207]

I'm French Canadian... So Zed sound French to me. But I ear both prononciation, depending on the usage. So in your case, I vote for KTZeee. It gives it more of a radio station vibe... 😊

[@squadramunter]

Does the Fiber XGS from Ubiquiti also do the job here?

[@andrewkruger5986]

Can I just attach a Ethernet to the back of the gateway into my switch? I need it to go to about 16 different Ethernet jacks around the office.

[@alonzosmith6189]

Checking if this work with my ISP Comporium. Comporium provide single mode fiber into an Adtran that converts fiber to copper.

[@zenstrukt]

The early access firmware will give you much easier NAT configuration. Check it out if you haven’t yet!

[@ktzsystems]

UniFi firmware?

[@zenstrukt]

@@ktzsystems haha yes sorry I should have mentioned that 😂

[@ktzsystems]

Is it stable?

[@zenstrukt]

@@ktzsystems it’s most definitely stable in my setup (UDM SE), including Network and Protect services 🎉

[@MK-sq8hh]

Hi @ktzsystems,Can you share the link to the XPON SFP module you bought?

[@ktzsystems]

You will want to check the 8311 discord linked in the description for info.

[@MK-sq8hh]

@@ktzsystems sure ,Thank you !

[@mindshelfpro]

If your ISP router also supplies telephone service with an RJ13 jack along with the Fibre connection, is there a way to replicate the telephone service with your own hardware?

[@2dfx]

not without knowing the SIP login credentials which are usually gatekept by the ISP

[@chiefpoopydick]

It can be, but honestly it's really not worth the trouble. Best backdoor route i can recommend is having your service installed with a stand alone ont. Plugging your ont into a switch. From the switch you can then plug in your modem. That gives the best of both worlds. That's how I have mine currently even though my home is serviced through windstream.

[@tonyw6427]

I assume you mean RJ12 and just slipped when typing it. RJ11 (1 pair), RJ12 (2 pairs), and RJ45 (4 pairs) are the normal descriptors (unless someone has created a new connector of course 😎😁). It depends on the age of your ONT. The originally implemented A-PON (ATM Passive Optical Network) sometimes had RJ12 connectors to attach to the old-fashioned Plain Old Telephone System (POTS). The more modern G-PON (Gigabit Passive Optical Network), XG-PON (eXtended Gigabit PON), or E-PON (Ethernet Passive Optical Network) networks are more likely to provide phone services via VOIP (Voice Over IP) hence @2dfx comment below, and these are usually RJ45 ethernet connected. Note: A-PONs are sometimes called B-PONs (Broadband PONs) nowadays.

[@ntsecrets]

NOKA is for Nokia that makes the ONTs now a days.

[@johns.6414]

You can bridge the 320. Log into it and setup ip pass-through. It will hand-off the public address to the lan.

[@ryoohk]

Also turn off the firewall on the modem and all the other settings in the modem, I've been running passed through through mine with no issues and I host a bunch of stuff on the servers.

[@thescandalchannel]

jea you can but it use at least 10W or more just to do nothing, well it encrypt the traffic but otherways absolutly nothing. this is just a waist.

[@dave_dennis]

@@ryoohkI assume you are paying for static public IP. Where did you find how to configure it? I found something on ATT site but it doesn’t work.

[@ryoohk]

@@dave_dennis when you turn on passthrough your router will get your modems public IP, I have had the same IP for 3 years now so no need to pay for a public address

[@beamnetworks1]

Solid video, nice work.

[@donsfromnz6515]

Hi Alex, When in Rome. It's Zee for you now. Your Daughter will be calling you out once she goes off to school, otherwise.

[@AlexandrShut]

It would be nice to see the temperature of this SFP module depending on the load

[@505Cisco]

You can within the ONT Stick under 8311, Pon Status, Optical Status; the temp is there. Max on the stick is recomended 160 F and under

[@lesgarten]

How did you know it was eth9? I'm looking at mine and am confused which one it is?

[@DlxyRekt]

DId you ever figure this out?

[@MikeG604]

where the hell do you buy the WAS-110 SFP ONT?

[@MastahFR]

8311 user here. You don't need to update (as in mandatory) and it's not a cat and mouse game. It's just convenient feature. The ONU modded mimic as best as it can a real device from AT&T. From them to prevent you from using it would most likely make them render all current device inoperative. What they can do on the other hand, is if you miss config something and hammer their network with error (and such) to possibly "ban" you. Highly unlikely though.

[@ktzsystems]

Great info!

[@BeardedTaz-Official]

Hey, Taz here. I work for a Fiber / WISP provider. Most networks have automated monitors toe prevent intrusions from unauthorized devices. Worse case it, it wont ban him but will ban the device MAC that is preconfigured. They will then just re-issue a Fiber ONT and make you pay for a service call. Or, they could do worse. lol

[@jfbeam]

Yes, there are various avenues to prevent these ONT cloning hacks. When they originally rolled out XGS-PON, they did so "by accident". If people don't make a mess of things, T will not be motivated to do anything about it. As far as support, they can't see your RG and that's as far as it'll go. (truck roll, and/or mail you a new one.)

[@jfbeam]

@@BeardedTaz-Official The only way one would get banned would be by making a mess that requires the attention of an engineer. And "banned" would be a flag for the address / name in the billing system, and then a tech physically disconnects your fiber.

[@VincentNguyen504]

Same set up as you, I can't get it done.

[@KuntalGhosh]

some isp.s have vendor locks enabled , or mac lock for customers like i do. for most it is as simple as calling the isp and letting them know your user name and ask them to reset the mac. those who have vendor lock you have to emulate the vendor.

[@cxz215]

Zee here. I didn’t know it was pronounced different until I heard Allan Jude forever ago say ZedFS and I couldn’t find anything. lol

[@loveplanes]

Why is the benefit of doing this? What is the difference between this and us in the pass through?

[@yessi_r6537]

am i crazy, or is that ubiquiti tab not there anymore for anyone else on this website referenced in the video? i see a tab for static route, but not for static IP, the static ip option that does exist doesn't have a ubiquiti just windows/mac/linux. the only section on the side currently is "network setup" so i don't see the command line information that's being used. really trying to get this up and running with my UDM Pro.

[@zstation64]

PON - Passive Optical Network. You have an ONT there. Optical Network Termination (or Terminator, think both work).

[@phattunit]

Hello, is there a way to save the route we set? The route does not work if I reboot my Ubiquiti device

[@RyanV78665]

I have this same router, but I have a white box on my wall that the fiber goes into, then a ONT lan cable from it to my BGW router. I've tried connecting the USG directly to the ONT connection before but it didn't work, something about auth keys needs to talk to the fiber gateway?

[@JeremyBrown-um6vm]

Sounds like you have gpon, you need xpon for this to work. One of the guides he posted talked about it. Basically you need to call att and upgrade to 2gb service, then att will send out a tech to upgrade you to xpon and give you a 320 box. After the upgrade you can drop down to 1gig if you want, you don't have to keep the 2Gb service.

[@barrymarcus3425]

I currently have AT&T 1GB and have the BGW320-500 gateway. 5GB is not currently available in my area. I would still like to kick the AT&T box to the curb. Is this possible? If yes, how? Is there a KZbin video that documents the process?

[@ktzsystems]

The 8311 discord has all the answers to this and more

[@kylerx7]

my issue is, can i use my static IPs bypassing their gateway?

[@NOVAVICE]

8311 I hope mine arrives today

[@Red1Wollip]

I wonder if this would work with my Mikrotik CCR

[@Jrdzpr]

I have a static IP range from ATT would this work for me?

[@DarkTAwolf]

where can you find that SFP?

[@mooretyler]

Is this possible for a Verizon FiOS install?

[@Sdoc0798]

It’s not really needed on FiOS since Verizon lets you plug anything into the Ethernet port on the ONT. you need this for ATT since they do not allow you to use your own router and they’re now combining the router and ONT. on top of that, ATT’s CPE limits you to about 5k nat sessions before hanging.

[@michaeldrury]

i have 1gb up/down speed, i watched another video with a different router that you have to upgrade your service to 2gb or better for this to work and then down grade to 1gb if you don't need this type of speed. is this true?

[@TechUniversity1]

Couldn't you just unplug the sfp in the att modem and plug into the unifi gw?

[@JoshuaMelville]

nope. they use the serial number to authenticate, and also expect the device to respond to configuration commands

[@soraf583]

Hi, you mentioned that the purpose of doing this workaround is because of the broken bridge mode on the OG ONT box from AT&T. I'm curious on what the exactly problem is, because I'm currently on another company's Fiber network and their ONT doesn't seem to have this issue as I can directly run an RJ45 ethernet cable from the ONT to my UDM Pro's WAN port and it just works...?

[@cryptocray4184]

With the AT&T Fiber service when configured in bridge mode, using a UDM as an example, the UDM still sends traffic to the AT&T router before going out to the internet. With the solution shown here you eliminate the extra hop to the AT&T gear.

[@ktzsystems]

The BGW320 has a fairly small NAT table and adds about 1-2ms of latency according to my analytics.

[@AlexandrShut]

@@soraf583 they don't offer 'plain' bridge as they will lose access to modem itself and won't be able to troubleshoot connection problems or install firmware.

[@shelms488]

Guessing you just got one from the latest group buy I did too.

[@ktzsystems]

Yup! Ordered in August right when Digiblur put his video out.

[@JB-fh1bb]

Bufferbloat before and after please!

[@byrd203]

Yes the BGW320 does do a proper bridge mode and i have done it it does work you ask how i can tell you easily how to do it

[@FFAMax1]

Where I need to live to have this speed? 😂

[@devilxelloss]

1. Running a "community" firmware which after doing some research I found derives from a nobody Chinese network device manufacturer is a big "No thank you!". 2. AT&T might sometimes push firmware updates or network configuration updates to the ONT they provided, now with this thing pretending to be the AT&T ONT, that won't work. 3. Keep in mind that you are sharing a single fiber line with multiple neighbors, if your custom ONT started to misbehave, it not only interrupts your internet, your neighbors' internet on the same fiber line will also be affected.

[@guillermo1479]

has anyone successfully done this with centurylink/quantum fiber? I was looking to do this earlier this year but decided against it due to lack of information but that WAS-110 thing looks amazing!

[@kimiZZZumi]

The device you have is an SFP-ONT

[@Gastell0]

That PON/ONT has 1GB of memory, that's 4 times more than my family's first computer with Intel Pentium 2 xD

[@vincentwilkes9611]

Thanks

[@sy5tem]

im always 1 month late for the group buy! :(

[@smartermoney]

You don’t mention you need to be on a GPON network not an ABF network with AT&T

[@wmoule]

People use these for the same purpose in the U.K for Virgin fibre.

[@XxCrawdadCraigxX]

good video

[@mamadou4707]

Thank you for creating great and useful content. I'm very curious about the 5Gbps fiber. Why so much bandwidth?

[@ktzsystems]

WHY NOT?!

[@AlexandrShut]

​@@ktzsystemsbased on the latest feeds, you generate more content with faster Internet 😂. Sad that ATT doesn't offer 10G plans

[@Steve-gc4lr]

always run the speed test 3 times this we do to clear out any garbage lol

[@sambl1720]

I want one for my bell modem Bell

[@andygaither7026]

Mate what model Thinkpad is that? She’s gorgeous 😍

[@ktzsystems]

X240 with a 1080p screen swap from about 2014 or so. Old and slow but perfect for a homelab terminal machine !

[@concernedcitizen2031]

I believe the correct term is PON on a Stick.

[@KuntalGhosh]

no , the correct term is ont or onu on a stick. pon is the name of the tech used is passive optical network , ont/onu is the optical network terminal / unit , and olt is the optical line terminal which is the host side , and ont/onu is the customer equipment side,