EASY BRAKE PADS & FLUID CHANGE KTM 1290 Super Adventure S & R // KTM 1190 Adventure

[@motocrad]

Thank you for this video. I changed my pads and fluid like I've always done, but I couldn't get the lever to go hard. Watching this video, I realised I'd missed the bleed nipple on the lever. Lever is rock hard now, and I think it's actually better than when I got the bike new 😊

[@MotoVibes]

Thank you very much for the feedback glad it was helpful 😉

[@ncadvr]

This video gave me Moto Vibes.

[@MotoVibes]

😉

[@davidmeadows5665]

I would have removed the pads spayed the caliper with brake cleaner making sure the exposed pistons were clean and then opened the bleed valve and pushed the caliper in to empty the old fluid out of the caliper making sure the piston was all the way in then fit pads and bleed the system. Thanks for taking the time in making the video which was very helpful.

[@MotoVibes]

Thank you for the additional tips. I did the bleed a couple of days later - I was missing a tool on that day - the initial plan was to do it all together ;-)

[@phillstubbs1840]

Quick tip when bleeding brakes when you have carried out bleeding tie a cable tie/zip tie around brake lever to handlebar grip and leave it till next day repeat bleeding this will ensure every air bubble is removed 👍 For rear hang a weight of the rear brake lever to hold it down overnight

[@MotoVibes]

Will keep that in mind next. Thank you. 👍

[@zagalwildsau8574]

Sehr gut, vielen Dank. Schön ruhig und in 11 Minuten alles gesagt...

[@MotoVibes]

Vielen Dank 😊 freut mich das es hilfreich war

[@tmark1301cc]

Thanks, but I'm surprised you swapped them out based on the remaining thickness of your current pads.

[@MotoVibes]

Tod Chapman it was not really necessary. It looked like they worn a bit more before I took them out. I needed a project while we were not allowed to ride and it makes me feel better to know the brakes will be good for a while now 😎

[@JanAndersenBHMP]

Excellent video. I would be happy to learn more about elementary maintenance and problem shooting if you are on a long tour and far from authorized workshops. Thanks a lot for your videos.

[@MotoVibes]

Thank you Jan!

[@LupercalWolf]

Super Video , werde ich bei meiner 1190 auch so machen.

[@MotoVibes]

Vielen Dank! Ist super easy - viel Erfolg!

[@foxtrot.tango.whisky]

@MotoVibes - Dude I love your videos man, always super informative & entertaining, especially for me in particular because in January I took delivery of my 2020 model year KTM 1290 SAS (except for some cosmetic changes there is nothing different between my 2020 KTM and yours). Thanks for the advice and walkthrough videos man, they are always saved into a playlist I have dedicated to the KTM SAS. You've been on some amazing routes. routes that id love to take my bike on one day. Ive been to the Alps a number of times but ive always flown there, your videos are inspiring me to make the journey from southern Spain or Lisbon, the two places where I live, though its a damn long journey to get to the alps from so far south & west Europe. My childhood group of friends and I all had motorbikes from age 9, just dirt bikes to explore the countryside in groups, and some years later we all got enduro bikes so we coukd use some roads so we could get to more distant places. Then we all ended up with cars and motorbikes kind of became just a memory from our youth. Anyway I decided that I would do my license and get my unrestricted motorbike license but none of my group of friends were interested in doing the same, so I have ended up being the only one out of my group of friends who has a motorbike, so I have ended up joining a couple of local groups of bikers that do regular group rides, which is great, however somethimes riding in such big groups is not so much fun. I still believe that you have the most enjoyment riding in small groups of maybe 2, 3, 4, or 5 bikes total because it is much more personal, it is much easier to agree amongst yourselves how your day should progress, and there is far less drama and issues arising when it is just a smaller group of bikes on a day or weekend out riding.Not to mention that small groups (especially of closer friends, or just people who ride the same) are so much less likely to have the issues of riders in the group with inflated egos which results in certain riders taking stupid risks and riding like idiots. It would be awesome to one day ride with you man, I'm glad to hear yyou say that you will be keeping your KTM for a while longer, it's for sure the best adventure bike on the market today. I'd love to hear you compare and contrast the BMW GS and the KTM SAS - most people get a GS and they never ever get a different motorbike, so hearing how your experience with the GS compares to your experience with the KTM I think would be valuabe information. Anyway keep well man and keep bringing us great videos with the awesome SAS. I have a gopro and all the gear needed to setup a moto vlog system but I just cannot imagine riding around and talking about stuff that people would find interesting. Perhaps I'm just more into the therapeutic value of riding in silence and extracting all the joy possible out of being out up in the mountain roads enjoying the scenery and continuously trying to improve my riding skills. Peace dude

[@MotoVibes]

Thank you for the nice comment and feedback - congrats your 1290 SAS! Good choice 😎 Reaching the alps from southern Spain is a bit of a trip but you have the Pyrenese mountain range which is about the same distance for you as the alps are for me 😉 AND living in southern Europe you get to enjoy a much longer season of riding (probably pretty much all year around I assume). As I have said in one of my last videos I re-discovered ridding again for myself but very similar to you there are very few others among my immediate friends that share the same passion. Then again I do meet lots of people through this hobby. I do a fair share of solo riding but enjoy riding in groups of different sizes too. I hope I get down to southern Spain one day on my own bike - certainly not this year but it is on the list (the list is getting longer). My dad is considering to move to Spain - the whole pandemic put his plans on hold for now. If you already own a GoPro start using it - I have recorded long before I ever did anything with the footage. The video editing was the biggest hurdle and a bit of a learning curve for me but there are great tutorials on youtube to help you get started. Now it is nice to capture some of the memories and to share them. I still enjoy the therapeutic value of riding - just gets my mind of everything else for a while - best days are rides of 800 or 900 km in a day. I am tired afterwards but very content 😎 Ride safe & stay healthy! cheers!

[@alansoriano2434]

What kind of brembo brake pads are those? Thanks

[@MotoVibes]

Honestly - it has been too long - definitely not racing type - these were made for street use. check out the brembo website - it helpful to find the rigth pads for your need

[@DScherti]

Grettings from Switzerland - would you be able to share the list of tools you use for your 1290 SAS - much appreciated

[@MotoVibes]

Top of my hat - nothing special except you need a torque wrench as the only special tool. The rest is just torx bits. You could do this with just the onboard tools the bike comes with.

[@DScherti]

@@MotoVibes Thank you!

[@davidbathe4108]

Hi Ollie I completely lost use of my back brake whilst coming down a small set of bends in Wales I was informed that this is a common fault with KTM’s And to resolve it I would need to swap the brake fluid to a high temperature or race fluid ? Have you heard of this fault ?

[@MotoVibes]

Hi David, I have not had this issue as of yet. As far as I know the KTM already comes with DOT 5.1 brake fluid which is a high temperature brake fluid. I do not apply the rear brake at all for normal riding - I only use it for slow turns, off-road riding and emergency braking (usually in training that is). The KTM as a combined braking system which means the rear always gets applied proportionally to the front brake if only the front brake is applied. I hope that helps

[@davidbathe4108]

@@MotoVibes thank you Ollie I hope you are well my German friend 🏍👻👍🏻🧡

[@P6_7R_Nick]

A nice 'how to'. I'm pleased you said not to bother with the one way valve kit as I thought it seemed a good idea, but I'll take your advice and stick to my length of tube. Let us know what you think of the Brembo red pads in a video some time 👍 Stay safe mate

[@MotoVibes]

Thank you Nick. I thought I would try something different with the one way valve but it just ended up in a total mess. On the Harley I installed special bleed valves on the calipers that did the same thing - worked much better that the in-line valve in the tubing. I am going keep it simple going forward with some short tubing and an empty jam glass 😂 I have some experience witht the red brembo pads - I installed them on my BMW R 1200 GS but did not do anything crazy with them and evenually sold the bike. I am looking forward to a track training in a couple of weeks - let's see how the pads do there.

[@haroldasgailius3689]

Helpful information ❤

[@MotoVibes]

Thank you - glad it helped 😉

[@josh-cc9oy]

thanks! the fluid you're changing didn't look so dirty, but i'm a cheap asshole so do whatevs!

[@MotoVibes]

I think it was just time for a change - sometimes the fluid looks really dark sometimes it doesn’t- not sure why.

[@MrWheely1]

is the ceramic paste heat resistanse.. i take kopervet

[@MotoVibes]

MrWheely1 yes it is it does the same as Copper paste used to do. However copper is not recommended for this purpose anymore because of potential galvanic reactions with the aluminum of the brake calipers.

[@OTWW]

Did you face challenge where the rear brake boils the fluid? Seems like a common issue with KTMs.

[@MotoVibes]

No. Not really. I only managed to overheat the brakes once with first signs of fading but I was riding like a maniac. I don’t apply the rear brake during normal riding - the combined braking system does that for me.

[@florinneacsu2573]

How would you now rate the red brake pads vs. OEMs now, after 1 season? Any improvement? Thanks!

[@MotoVibes]

Honestly - pretty much the same as the original - I did pick them to be close to the original. I have happy with the braking performance of the 1290 - with that being said - there are better brakes out there - the BMW S 1000XR brakes for example.

[@florinneacsu2573]

@@MotoVibes thank you for your replies! I thought they would be similar... Many complain, I find the brakes ok once they get warmed up. I first need to replace my tires, the Mitas Terraforce R I mentioned on your 2021 1290SAS video, then I see how it really is. A fresh set of rubber beats any plates for braking performance, IMHO

[@MotoVibes]

@@florinneacsu2573 no need to change the brake pads before they are worn 😉 let me know how you get along with the tires

[@moyanak]

@@MotoVibes Great video. 35000km or 3500km?

[@MotoVibes]

@@moyanak 35.000 km 😉

[@joschmitt4464]

Hast du eigenlich schon erfahrungen mit den roten sinter brembos heraus fahren können? Würde mich interessieren im vergleich zu den orginal belägen. Und wie sieht das laufbild der scheiben jetzt aus?? Tolle videos... weiter so. Gruss axel

[@MotoVibes]

Vielen Dank Axel. Die roten Brembo Beläge sollten den Originalen sehr ähnlich sein - ich hab darauf geachtet, dass Fokus auf Straßennutzung liegt - der wirkliche Test steht noch aus - wenn alles gut geht bin ich in 2 Wochen in den Alpen. Bisher war ich nur im Flachland unterwegs und bei einigen Offroad Events - beides nicht wirklich eine Feuerprobe für die Beläge. Auch auf den Scheiben ist nicht wirklich eine Änderungen zu sehen - wie im Video zu sehen ist nutze ich die Bremsen insgesamt recht wenig - die Beläge war ja noch weit entfernt von der Verschleissgrenze und dann kommt die bisher geringe Laufleistung dazu aufgrund der aktuellen Situation bin ich bisher gerade mal 7000 km gefahren. Der Grund für den Kauf war, dass ich wenigsten weiß was ich da kaufe bei Brembo in Bezug auf die Auslegung der Bremsbeläge - bei KTM gibt es nur eine Option. Das ganze ist dann auch noch ein gutes Stück günstiger als die KTM Beläge (die sicherlich ohne von Brembo sind). Diese Beläge hatte ich damals auch bei meiner GS verbaut und war sehr zufrieden.

[@joschmitt4464]

@@MotoVibes danke für die info. Da hast du sicherlich recht das die orginal auch brembos sind. Dann bin ich mal gespannt ob du nach deiner tour mehr sagen kannst....... Dann viel spass und gute fahrt. Gruss axel

[@josh-cc9oy]

I co NM completed the brake bleed on a 1090. There's no bleeder for the Master cylinder on the 1090. I have a squishy front brake. I know there's no air in the lines I flushed them many times, ensuring no air went back in. I believe the air is trapped in the master cylinder or something? I'm leaving my brake lever pulled in overnight to see if that helps... Any advice helps. I heard bleeding the Master with the banjo screw, but idk where that is

[@MotoVibes]

Sounds like a good plan. Or just ride and it for a bit to see if that solves it. I had no issues with mine. If nothing helps see the dealership- you want your brakes in good working order. 😉

[@revampmobilesolutions8851]

Did you resolve your issue? I just brought bike out of storage and BAM, soft front brake. I haven’t touched the system at all, bike is only 2 yrs old.

[@josh-cc9oy]

Update for folks. Master cylinder likely needs replacement, will do that eventually. Brakes work well enough for now! Last two years

[@MrWheely1]

why diverent bloks front rear SA vs SP ???

[@MotoVibes]

Honestly I can not give you an answer anymore why I picked this set. It’s been too long 😉

[@MrWheely1]

@@MotoVibes oké...

[@pingel9155]

Hätte ich doch fast verpasst... Dem Herrn Inschenör ist nichts zu schwör :-)). Mal was anderes. Also, wenn die alten Bremsklötze auch bei einer 990er SD passen, dann schicke sie mir. Die fahre ich noch bis zum Ende :-))

[@MotoVibes]

Ping el nächstes mal schaue ich genauer hin. Bei der BMW waren die nach der Laufleistung am Ende. War erstaunt dass noch so viel Material drauf war.

[@pingel9155]

@@MotoVibes Für die Laufleistung sahen die wirklich noch gut aus. Muss wohl am Fahrstil liegen - immer schön flüssig, wie man in den Fahrvideos sieht. Bremsen denn die Brembos jetzt besser?

[@MotoVibes]

@@pingel9155 War heute auf Tour und konnte mal etwa beherzter bremsen - fühlt sich alles schon ein bisschen besser an - liegt natürlich auch an der neue Bremsflüssigkeit. Die alten Beläge hatten ja ein wenig gequietscht - ich glaube ich habe die mal zu heiß gebremst oder so ;-) In 2 Wochen geht es auf die Rennstrecken (zum Training) dann werden die Beläge richtig beansprucht

[@Motorradbummler]

Frisch aufgestanden oder watt? :-)

[@MotoVibes]

war gar nicht erst im Bett 😂

[@Motorradbummler]

@@MotoVibes lol 😂

[@ZentisTube]

Ich liebe Deine Videos. a) weil selbst die 1290 SAS fahre (natürlich selbe Farbe); b) weil gut gemacht und sympathisch rüberkommst. Wäre es zuviel verlangt in Zukunft zwei Versionen online zu stellen wo Du vielleicht auch in deutscher Sprache sprichst (reicht auch über vorhandene Tonspur zu sprechen). Die automatische Übersetzung ist Grauenhaft und mein Englisch praktich nicht vorhanden, nie gelernt in Schule oder später Notwendigkeit dazu gehabt.

[@MotoVibes]

Vielen Dank für Deine netten Worten - freut mich, dass Dir die Videos gefallen. Die ersten waren ja Tatsache noch in deutscher Sprache mit englischen Untertiteln. Bei den aufwendigeren Videos (mit Musik und Schnitt) gehen ca. 2 Std. Arbeit für 1 min Video rein - das sind bei 8 min dann gute 16 Std. dann kommen noch Thumbnails & Beschreibung (die bis vor kurzem auch in 2 Sprachen) - Untertitel haben dann locker eine weitere Stunde gekostet. Ich hab mit dann entschieden die Sachen gleich in Englisch zu machen - auch die Beschreibungen sind jetzt nur noch in Englisch. Ich habe noch recht viel Material und Ideen für Videos und mir bleibt wenig Zeit für den Schnitt neben einer 50+ Std./Woche (bei dem Job der das Hobby Motorrad finanziert) - komme derzeit also nicht nach mit den Videos an sich. Es gibt ja einige Videos bei dem die Sprache nicht so im Vordergrund steht ;-)

[@Aldimann007]

Hab ich dich richtig Verstanden, dass die Idee mit dem Rückschlagventil nix getaugt hat? Das würde es halt erheblich einfacher machen, wenn man sich das ständige auf- und zudrehen sparen kann.

[@MotoVibes]

so war es eigentlich gedacht - auch weil ich gute Erfahrungen mit den Entlüftungsventilen mit Rückschlagventil gemacht hatte an der Harley. Kann natürlich sein, dass ich mich zu blöd angestellt habe aber der Druckaufbau war nicht sehr gut zu kontrollieren und die ganze Soße lief seitlich raus - das ist deutlich einfacher ohne das extra Ventil. Selbst beim linken vorderen Bremssattel geht das ohne Probleme alleine - das auf und zu Gefummel ist ja nur ein paar mal am Ende notwendig -bis dahin kann das Ventil leicht geöffnet bleiben und man spült die Leitung mit neuer Flüssigkeit.

[@carlosalbertomartinezespar7730]

how many kilometres for change the brakes??

[@MotoVibes]

I changed them after 35.000 km but the pads would have been good for another 15-20.000 km - in my case - it was just nice to have news ones in ;-)

[@DanielSavard]

Check your owner's manual. They indicate the brake pads must be changed when the linings is 1 mm or less. It's on page 183 or near depending on the edition and language.

[@MotoVibes]

Daniel Savard thanks for the tip. 👍

[@lostwheels5951]

Technisch alles ok aber von Hand hab ich die Bremse das letzte Mal an meiner Kreidler entlüftet : -) !. Eine Pumpe ist vorzzuziehen, weil nur so die Luft komplett aus dem System entweicht. Außerdem ist das dann in 10 Minuten erledigt. ;-) Grüsse !

[@MotoVibes]

Ich habe ja nicht so ein schicke Werkstatt wie Du 😂

[@javierc2726]

Jamming the disc to the side to compress the piston is not the healthier practice for your brakes

[@javierc2726]

Also, try leveling your audio, the music covers your voice

[@MotoVibes]

@@javierc2726 I have gotten a bit better with audio on the newer videos. 😉

[@NachoGS]

Have you noticed any improvement with those new pads? Tell us about it

[@MotoVibes]

Nacho Sánchez too early to tell. I have not been riding much since I replaced them. They need to be broken in properly before fully pushing them. I have a training on the race track planned soon 😎

[@pascalhumphrey]

you have the back ground music to loud

[@MotoVibes]

thanks for the feedback!

[@pascalhumphrey]

@@MotoVibes the content was good though.

[@MotoVibes]

@@pascalhumphrey at least that ;-) cheers

[@JanAndersenBHMP]

Yes background music far to loud. Especially when you are a soft spoken person.

[@rb494]

Too

[@790adventure2]

You need to cut the music you sound like your mumbling I’m not here to listen to the music