EASY CHANGES to Make Your TV BETTER! 📺 TCL QM851G

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

📌 Considering the QM851G? Find it here amzn.to/3WJ9dAs 🔌 Watch our TCL QM8 REVIEW kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZneypGNrg62gjqc to get caught up on today’s UNPLUGGED! 😀Thank you for watching! If you enjoyed this video, please hit the 👍 Like button! 🙏 Please stay on topic and be respectful. 🚫Comments containing links, self-promotion, or personal info are automatically deleted.

[@AudioPhil84]

you mentioned a distance calculator and wanted to drop a link, i might be blind but have not found it in the discription or the pinned comment, can you add it?

[@KristiWright]

@@AudioPhil84 It's there in the description right above the Diagnostics. It's near the top.

[@ei7ex]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews hey Andrew, how do u calibrate a tv using Calman Home through a Mac?? Is it even possible or the only way is to use a Windows laptop?

[@LEGOKRASS]

I am considering TCL (QM851G or C955 or C935) because of the "cheap" price and the relative good picture quality. But I always come back to Sony. I had a 55 inch X900H and the picture quality was just awesome, even with only 24 dimming zones. It is incredible how good Sony manages so fiew dimming zones. By the way, a direct picture quality comparison of the X95L, the Z9K (or Z9L, if it exists) and the Bravia 9; I would love to see it and hear your thoughts about them. I watch only movies and series in Remux quality. Greetings from Europe.

[@SchoolYa]

I am going to buy the TCL QM851G in a couple of weeks, so you just reaffirmed my decision to make the purchase. Thank you for a very informative, well done video.

[@alandawson9419]

Love how you both approach enthusiast stuff with maturity and pragmatism

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Thank you, I appreciate that.

[@Poise716]

Extended warranty like what Best Buy offers is a must in my opinion. 5 years is exactly the amount of time that I need. My Hisense broke after 3 years. Lesson learned and never again will I not have coverage.

[@omarbargoti3832]

Very good point. Best buys warranty is easy and if there is an issue they will just give you your money back so you can get a more modern TV,

[@marcfavell]

Hisense has great longevity I've had three TVs over 12 years and all of them still work The newest one being their first quantum dot 65 television from 2018-19 65H9F model

[@woodydawg77]

I purchased my first 4k TV earlier this year. A 55" TCL for our bedroom. It blew me away so much, it forced me to upgrade my main viewing space. Mind you I did hesitate to buy TCL when I was shelling out more $$. I replaced my 8 year old Samsung 1080 LED display. It worked fine for its entire life span (gifted to a relative and is going strong still). So, I upgraded to a new Samsung QN80C 75". Calibrated from best buy and I love it! But, I would seriously consider TCL for any upgrade in the future. Also love this channel. Look forward to it every week!

[@redherring6154]

You are doing gods work reviewing all these t.v’s for us, what a true warrior . Cheers mate.

[@sirjynx3041]

Some things about picture quality are a little more intangible and harder to verbalize, but Andrew did an amazing job articulating what I see as the difference when watching a Sony TV versus some of the competition. TVs are often more than their raw numbers/data would imply, and watching the X90L or similar Sony product versus the competition is just a noticably more enjoyable experience. The color temperature and balance are so much more artistically appreciable and pleasant to the eye for me versus all other TVs I have seen.

[@shelbyrockstar]

Been running a TCL 75. 8 hours a day for 5 years straight. Heavy usage in Atmos 9.2 and gaming. Zero issues thus far. Fingers crossed until decent projectors become more affordable.

[@FURognar]

My TCL R617 from 2017 just died a few days ago. That thing was used daily for nearly 7 years. To compare, my previous 2 TVs were Samsung tvs and both lasted about the same amount of time.

[@KristiWright]

That's a bummer but it sounds as if the TCL is on par with Samsung's longevity.

[@blane237]

My TCL 4 Series has been running strong for like 7 years, lots of time we leave it on a large part of the day even on the screen saver. Toddlers hitting the TV with toys or their hands and fingers, and it's still running great.

[@pepeltoro444]

Thank you so much for that insightful answer to my question. I still have my TCL, I loved everything else about it except the green hue...I will try all your suggestions, THANKS!!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

You are so welcome!

[@greyquinn]

Latily following all your videos! Best multimedia gear channel!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Thanks so much!

[@lawrenceirvin2899]

Sadly I’ve been cheerleading friends and family to at least consider “movie” mode and to turn off judder reduction to only be met with sighs and complaints how the picture isn’t as bright 😑

[@tomreidy1237]

Love your videos ❤. So glad you aren’t “dragging” this week. Always look forward to seeing your newest video.

[@Mr.Honore]

I’ve had my TCL 605 series since 2018 I believe. Longevity had been great bits in my oldest room working with no issues.

[@larryhoffman7471]

We have a couple of Vizio tv’s that are over 10 years old and still going strong.

[@MaharionPendragon]

How did I just come across this? I'm a subscriber now. I just bought the TCL C835 MiniLED 55". What are the setting changes I can make to instantly make this TV better? I watch a lot of Dolby Vision shows

[@rct8884]

Great show! I watched the 4k Olympics on new LG and Samsung oled tv's and the compression and frame rate stuttering was terrible so I will chalk my experience to the broadcast and internet performance not so much all on the tvs

[@hakujin7137]

We have a 75" Hisense U8K that we have had for over a year and use it daily, and it has had no issues. We love it. Before that we had a 65" Sharp 3D TV that I had for over a decade. We only got rid of it because we were moving before we got married and had to put most of our stuff in storage and it wouldn't fit, so I gave it up. :/

[@m4nc1n1]

Black bars never bothered me. I just bought a bigger TV. But before flst screens the video was always altered from the original to fit the 4:3 so what is wrong with going the other way?

[@KristiWright]

You do what you want but why go "the other way" when you don't have to. Back then the image was altered due to the limitations of technology at the time. Today, most of us don't have to face those same challenges.

[@wojtylo]

I am still using my old Samsung 8000C 55” from 2009.

[@Oscar-sz7sp]

I've had VA panel the contrast is 3D like very cool if you like that but the viewing angle had me shifting my tv often. Now I have an IPS-Pro (Samsung QN90C) and I'm shocked to how the contrast and picture pop is. I cant go back to VA, I'm just wondering how good is the S90D OLED.

[@mattrc77]

VA panels for an LCD TV have great blacks, high contrast and fast refresh rates for gaming that's why they use them, IPS panels may have good viewing angles and colors but they're not so great with contrast and they have a slower refresh rate than VA.

[@LEGOKRASS]

I had an LG, mid range model, it had an IPS panel. Good viewing angles? Not in the slightest! Even a milimeter moving away from the center washed the dark gray (IPS´s "blacks") out to a very bright gray tone! So if you had for example a picture with some black zones in it, it was just a caleidoscope of different gray tones. Even the black bars up and down in cinemascope movies, they were in the middle gray, and right and left they were almost milky white! And even colors were washed out from an off angle. IPS? NEVER AGAIN.

[@billymurphy3]

Kristi mentions this being good for people with eye issues. I’m disabled, so I figure you might be interested in how I care about my display haha WELL. When I hear brightness, it means nothing to me. I heard stuff about brightness and blue light and those during the main review if I recall correctly? Those things both ruin me. I find it odd when people prefer blue, I understand people wanting a bright display though. For someone with my weird vision condition? How you can see detail well after lowering the backlight would be interesting. I haven’t worried much about visuals since my vision went, but I’d assume there’s an impact on the way colors are rendered when the elements inside aren’t at higher levels of output as well. Different color modes, settings, and options, available to me are important. These are things someone who’s blinded by bright light, strained by blue light cares about. How dim while viewable can it get? How much can you tailor the color of the image? I would say how does it feel in the eye, but you guys just won’t strain like me haha I tend to use a TVs cinema settings and low backlight. When I say low, I mean LOW. Cuts the blue, removes eye stain. Sometimes these settings feel good, sometimes they don’t. It’s not the same for every display. I know it’s not accurate, that’s okay. I honestly think it looks “nicer/better” much of the time anyways. There’s less of a harshness. @23:00 you touch on color temperature. Which if cinema settings don’t work for me, is where I’d go first. Should not do anything to the green, I assume you misspoke. You said tint after, so obviously you know that’s where green and magenta should lie. Cinema I feel will tend to lean green. I don’t remember at this point honestly. I haven’t cared much about cameras and displays for years haha I will say, I live in a darker environment than most people. I darken even further when I want to WATCH my TV rather than have it in the background. I have smart-bulbs, blinds, shades, and tailor my light to my eyes because I cannot be exposed to direct sunlight without being literally blinded and my eyes just stop functioning. Just thought you guys might be interested in how like, someone who’s disabled by their vision handles viewing haha

[@KristiWright]

This is so interesting and helpful in understanding what those with vision impairment are looking for in a TV. Thank you for sharing your experience!

[@nvc.]

I gotta say, i love to see Andrew using a mechanical automatic watch. So cool! On my group of audio/video nerds, everyone only uses smartwatches and makes fun of me for loving traditional watches. I'm gonna stick it to them now 😂😂😂

[@KristiWright]

I love my Apple watch but I will admit, the traditional watch looks very sexy on Andrew. :) By the way, if anyone reading this wants to get his watch, I got his here: amzn.to/3yTkUvg

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

All credit to my baby, Kristi! She makes sure I'm lookin' sharp every video.

[@KristiWright]

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[@nvc.]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews It's a beautiful peace, and it's a way to be "unplugged" 😉 in a world where everything is electronic. ❤️

[@nvc.]

@@KristiWright It was a great choice. Beautiful watch ❤️

[@fuzz_spl]

Happy Friday Andrew & Kristi. One question I have, what are your impressions about the potential longevity of these new TCL TVs. Several years ago, we had the TCL R617, which at the time had pretty solid reviews. We only got a little over 26 months out of that TV before the control board failed and we had bright green vertical lines on the display. My In-laws had a TCL R625, and that TV only lasted a little over 3 years. Just curious if you think their quality control and longevity has improved since 2018-2019

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

We tackle this question here 14:52

[@KristiWright]

I'm pretty sure we go over that in this video.

[@fuzz_spl]

@@KristiWright That'll learn me to ask questions before watching the whole video. Side effect of multi-tasking at work. :)

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

@@fuzz_spl All good. We appreciate you watching!

[@fuzz_spl]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews Always enjoy the content.

[@saudshaikh4048]

Which Sony TV are you referring to? Can you be specific? Thanks

[@Blazecfc]

X90L they say it in the video

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Hi @saudshaikh4048, You'll find that information in the description box just below the video's title. Thanks for watching!

[@brecwinchester8487]

The tcl 4 series was the entry level. I got a 65"4 series for my parrot's room and the 65" 6series for the basement theater set up. I love the 6, it has some blooming in the top corners with white text, but the rest is great. Even the 4, for how cheap it was, is better then most at that price. Also have a hisence 65" in bedroom that works fine, but nowhere near the tcl 6.

[@KristiWright]

The TCL 6 amzn.to/35Vn9NO is a great TV. Ours is still working.

[@tileslasher]

I saw one of these at RC willy today, really awesome. I have a little story, I have the 77 inch A95L I got it in 2023 Oct, it had a lot of hdmi issues. I was lucky and Sony replaced the whole TV, so it also came with the 3rd gen samsung panel. I have gotten very lucky and have gotten 2 of the same tv's with different panels. I will probally get a lumagen someday for my projector.

[@BryanRuby]

Andrew, I hear you with regards to the quality of video for live sports and live TV broadcasts is highly dependent on the source. When I invite people over to watch a game being broadcasted locally (usually a NFL game) people are stunned how good of a picture I'm getting. Eventually, they ask what live TV streaming service or cable service do I use. They're speechless when I tell them what they're watching is from an over-the-air antenna. Old school meets new school!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Some of the best sportscasts are over-the-air. It's quite amazing, actually!

[@BryanRuby]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews So many people don't know this!

[@KristiWright]

What are your thoughts on the new Big 12? I'm going to miss our playful TX/KS rivalry!

[@BryanRuby]

@@KristiWright I'm a one team watcher, so I'll roll with whatever conference Kansas is in. But yes, I too will miss the TX-KS rivalry similar to missing the KS-NE and KS-MO games! Twitter will never be the same!

[@JustinRoby9311]

At some point in the early 2000s, I overheard so many complaints about letterboxing (2.35:1 on a 16.9 screen or 4:3 screen) and pillarboxing (4:3 content on a 16:9 screen) it drove me nuts. Strange beliefs about either "wasting money on pixels that aren't being used" or possibly causing burn-in damage either way. It was so weird.

[@billelliott3507]

That is interesting. Do they not realize regardless of form factor, there will always be media that doesn’t match the aspect ratio.

[@JustinRoby9311]

@@billelliott3507 Spoiled by the VHS pan-and-scan days. What was truly strange was that when Warner Brothers released the box set of Kubrick, everything after 2001 was released as the full-frame (4:3 version). Kubrick, after 2001, definitely shot with 1.85:1 or 1.66:1 ratios in mind, but shot it in such a way that the movies could appear on TV without getting cropped. Instead, the films could be shown on TV or put on video without the matte, so the full frame is visible. The DVDs were released as full-frame versions as if that were how Kubrick intended. The blu-rays, however, are done correctly according to Kubrick's written projection notes.

[@stevewright1539]

Great video for us "videophiles". I think we're on the same page as to what we appreciate and want from an image. I did see the X90L recently and, indeed, it gives a very film, almost project like image. The more I look at Sony's for either OLED, Mini-LED or Projection, Sony just does all around processing better than anyone else. FUDGE! As I type you just hit on MadVR and yeah that is a topic that just makes my blood boil. It's part of the "hobby"....ok....Im in agreement with you and Kristi. No more comments! Enjoy the long weekend!

[@jabertone4971]

Love the video! How do you guys feel about the Hisence U8N 75 inch. Thank you so much.

[@anonymouschupacabra7810]

Hi Andrew could you also go through the settings for Hisense U8N?

[@KristiWright]

We have not experienced the U8N but you can still apply the same changes laid out here to any TV.

[@tedrubinstein2003]

Have you ever replaced the power cable and seen a difference on a TV? I have about a three-year-old 85 inch Samsung and the power cable is tiny. Cable manufacturers say can make a huge difference. Kind of like honey high-quality audio amp Any thoughts, thank you.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Power cords have never, in my experience, made a statistical difference in quality, be it audio or video.

[@eliotcole]

On using TV OS for media 'stuff' ... I go with the Louis Rossman approach of ... *never* connect the thing to the internet, and use it as a display. I think Apple TV is a lovely thing, it's not for me. But yeah ... use that ... an NVidia Shield ... or my personal preference a KODI device.

[@eliotcole]

... and I don't want to tell the world about the amazing kodi box that I have found ... because I don't want it to sell out/get done in for some churlish reason ... but they're out there. If you know about 'the DV google sheet' ... then you know. ;)

[@OscarsTechTalk]

Can you review the Hisense u76n 100-inch model?

[@slabmagic9051]

Im between the 98 qm8 and the lg 89t.. any advice here, the 1g is $1k more but not an issue budget wise.

[@MrUpscaleman]

I have vision problems so I like Kristi's comment.

[@bungalowtomcat1]

I'm after a 65 or 75 X90L Bravia 7 QM851 all seem to be very very close together which one to buy for COLOR ACCURACY, UPSCALING low bit and DETAIL and Blooming and DSE

[@ajju9233]

@@bungalowtomcat1 x90L is knowing for those things. Go for it.

[@AndrewLamas19]

QM851

[@bungalowtomcat1]

@@AndrewLamas19 thanks 😊

[@ghmcmurr]

I have had 2 tcls the series 6 55 second Gen and q7 65 inch. Both are great. I have had no issues with either. I only upgraded bc my wife got mad and punched and broke the 55 inch screen. I had the series 6 for about 4 or 5 years and q7 for slightly over a year with 0 issues. If you are not a last 10% chaser I don't think you can get a better tv than a upper tier TCL ( Q6, q7. M8). The lower tier S3 which my in-laws bought did die after 3 years and the S5 I have no experience with is a lower tier model s well. Last 10% chasers will not not recommend TCL though for obvious reasons. For the majority of users that are perfectly fine with 90% of the best should be really happy with upper tier TCL TV's. For price and features, esp for those that have a clue on how to set the settings and correct the out of the box color, I don't think you can go wrong with an upper tier TCL tv.

[@slabmagic9051]

Awesome video as always guys .. i recently got the 98" tcl qm8, im mostly happy with it. Im still in my return window and now wondering if the lg qned is the better tv for the $900 more.. thank u for all.u do!

[@matthancock98]

@@slabmagic9051 what about the tv has you on the fence ? What do you not like about it ?

[@wavebend1474]

when are you going to review the bravia 9? it's a qm8 with sony's processing!

[@ozzzy3z946]

At almost 3 times the price!

[@swhmetta]

Very Informative! This is helpful as I consider what to purchase. Thank you.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Glad it was helpful!

[@greyquinn]

If you spend the same amount as the Bravia Quad but in a receiver and 5.1 speakers, do you get much better quality or is it very little in a small room?

[@KristiWright]

I believe you can get a similar experience with both options. For a small room, the Quad may be the easier solution to implement and be less dominating for the space.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

If you watch our Bravia Theatre Quad review, you'll have your answer. Regardless of the room size, I can't say if you will prefer the Quad over a traditional system. Both are great options, and the Quad is a real winner for people who prioritize simplicity!

[@824tonimarie]

I'm just in love with my Sony X90L.... I followed your suggestion and I love the cinematic experience. I also watched Furiosa and speechless I want to live in my sofa watching movies. 😂 We have an LG oled in bedroom that my wife loves but I prefer the Sony. 🥰

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Great to hear!

[@greyquinn]

It is crazy the different amount of editions and formats a movie can be released! Even crazier when you consider that movies like Dune don't have an Imax format in Bluray. But what about picture quality? Is Dolby Vision the most important standard to look for? How does TCL compare to Sony in that regard? Thanks!!

[@mivanp2185]

For the rather large savings. Its best to buy a separate google tv if its.not as quick processing with the in built streamer. I have a spare tv in the other room for a old 55 hx853 and ive had it coming upto 10 years and works perfectly still and dont know how they did it but the blacks are inky. Sonys motion for me is unbeatable

[@InfamousHp]

I’ve owned 2 TCLs for 3 yrs (one of em is a 6 Series) & NOTHING has happened to them. I’m gearing up to grab the new QM8 in November.

[@SENCORE_ISF]

Question regarding the TCL. I haven’t calibrated one yet… Did you measure the televisions PQEOTF at 1000 up to 4000 Nits? Others have said the TCL over brightens content. Seen when measuring the PQEOTF. Did you find this to be the case?

[@KristiWright]

Andrew discussing the measurements of the TCL here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZneypGNrg62gjqcfeature=shared.

[@SENCORE_ISF]

@@KristiWright Hello, Thank you for the reply. I rewatched the full review to be certain I hadn’t missed the answer to my question. Unfortunately did not see the particular answer to my question addressed. No worries though. Appreciate the review. :)

[@zadarblack]

4 years I got my Hisense H9G and it still working fine. Now its in my bedroom.

[@thalgott3]

Is anyone else weird like me and cannot understand why in the year 2024 television aspect ratio and movie aspect ratio are not the same? I am really bothered by the black bars on the top and bottom of my screen, very bothered...

[@The2ndavepete]

not bothered but annoyed. like Why?

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🙋‍♂️GREAT REVIEW ON THE TCL ,ANDREW,KRISTI,FOR THOSE WHO NEED A NEW TV IMHHO , I WISH THERE WAS MORE GOOD CONTENT TO WATCH 🤷‍♂️💚💚💚😊

[@KristiWright]

There's so much content to choose from. Perhaps that is what makes the bad stand out more. If anyone missed the full TCL review, you can watch it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZneypGNrg62gjqc.

[@sirjynx3041]

The X90L is full array, versus the TCL Mini-LED backlighting, so it would make since it pulls you to the edge of changing TVs

[@FURognar]

I have the 2023 QM8. Fantastic TV. The only issue I have with it is the poor upscaling performance, and they even improved that with a firmware update to where its tolerable now, no longer outright terrible. But when compared to my buddy's Samsung QN85D, that kicks the crap out of my TCL for upscaling. (HDR is another matter entirely though)

[@jeffleigh3747]

Hey guys, I'm in the UK and honestly I just love you guys. I'm a straight, married guy. But honestly if I was gay....I'd have to fight Kristi for you, Andrew 😍 But seriously, I love love you guys. You brighten my day and just all round you both make me feel happy. Love your productions to bits. Please keep these videos coming. Take care. Top job here btw 🤗🤗🤗

[@NathanMaharaj]

Key tip with dialing back the "Colour" setting: do it at night before you go to bed. Then actually go to bed and see how it feels when you come back to it the next day. What you *don't* want to do is force yourself to experience desaturation after viewing for hours: just about anybody will decide the adjusted picture looks "worse."

[@edwarddiogu6377]

I didn't watch till the very end; therefore don't know if you mentioned anything about hisense. Will you be reviewing the hisense U8N 100 inch TV?

[@alandawson9419]

Everyone should cheer for the up and coming brands, competition is a good thing for everyone and enthusiasts

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

100% agree!

[@fonkenful]

Morning, all; time for some no drama, maybe even a few chuckles if we let ourselves.

[@KristiWright]

Hope you're day is off to a great start!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

We finally get to move on from the product that will never be named, though, I may get 💩 for my rant at the end. Sorry, not sorry.

[@fonkenful]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews Just be real; not agreeing with every point doesn’t give us the license to be dickish about it😉.

[@eliotcole]

I've always found the TV size thing a little funny ... because my view (always been a front of the cinema person ... I have paragraphs full of reasons) is that you should get the biggest one that you can, and sit as close as is comfortable so that you get the most cinematic view. THEN ... put some shit in front of it, and don't let it be the only thing you do.

[@FURognar]

On my 75" QM850G (2023), this has the least amount of DSE I've ever seen on an LCD-based panel. My panel is super clean. Almost no uniformity issues when I go through grey screens. I did go through some grey slides on KZbin when I was calibrating my set (not really calibrating, but going through the spears and munsil disc as best I could) and I noticed some uniformity issues right in the middle of the screen on certain grey slides. Then I realized it wasn't uniformity.....it was viewing angle. The "dark spot" in the center of the tv moved along with me when I moved my head from side to side. Though, so far this viewing angle issue has only even shown up in those grey slides.

[@LaMont4theW]

Yes TCL does last. Still have the first Tcl mini led from 8 years ago working great. Btw stick with there mini led tvs entry level tend to have the issues

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Thank you for weighing in and sharing your experience, I know people will find it helpful.

[@airsickgrove]

Half a decade ago Vizio was going to be the "bang for the buck" brand, now they're just barely there...wtf, really liked them, the only thing I think TCL has is that the remaining ounce of Hitachi in existence. Back in the 80's they were the go to best bang for your buck brand and their chips/ boards etc were in every other electronics brand out there. Miss Hitachi so much.

[@mohammedbel2709]

better to get the 2024 TCL now or wait for the 2025 model ?

[@JCOTV]

Lol firts the sound bar debacle now a fight the madVR, but I appreciate the honesty, I was considering one of the new Sony's tv but TCL is now on ny radar.

[@KristiWright]

There really is no fight.

[@hyperactivetendencies7054]

​@@KristiWright you guys give super detailed and honest reviews from a perspective of people who have decades of working with and understanding the audio world. I think people just assume that with your size you must be "paid off", but you can tell the level of care and truthfulness in your reviews. If you wanted to play it safe for possible sponsorships you wouldn't have went hard on the dragon and you wouldn't have multiple times in your videos explained your issues. I had the original Nakamichi Shockwafe and after having a more nuanced and detailed system I can say my experience with the sound being harsh and brash too fast and reaching for the remote to change the volume during loud vs. low scenes was a nightmare. Keep putting out the consistent and honest reviews and people will forget all about any dumb stuff. The audio world is too full of "audiophiles" that take something so dumb and silly super seriously. I'm glad you guys never cater to that group.

[@JCOTV]

@@KristiWright just goofing arround.

[@jC-kc4si]

Im surprised full motion wall mounts arent talked about much. Its almost magic you can increase the size of your screen by pulling it up to 28-32 inches closer.

[@KristiWright]

Who else is excited to have college football back? NGL, I wish we still had the TCL for tomorrow's Texas Longhorns 🤘game.

[@darealestwon]

Me. Will be watching my aggies tomorrow!

[@TheOriginalPaulGilpin]

Would you guys ever consider doing a video demonstrating the TV calibration process?

[@MattyDaddy14]

You might be able to sell that Sony for about the same price as the QM8! Haha. 🎉. IMO ya shoulda kept it ;) That is unless of course IF you’re waiting for the Hisense 98UX or 110UX 🎉

[@michaelrossmaessler200]

The real challenge is how high your ceiling needs to be to get a 98 inch TV over your bar area 😁

[@RedLeo-pf9yo]

Heck yeah !!!!! Go Horns !!!!!!

[@AsadNazif]

I remember screen innovation have the Transformer screen which is so cool. I wish they continued with it. Which instead of masking to change aspect ratio, they add more screen real estate where it grows. I think they may have discontinued it.

[@CButti-x1s]

Hi guys. Great discussion. Just a comment with regard to TCL build quality and longevity vs the big boy brands. I had an LG C1 OLED that had its panel fail a little over two years into ownership. Also know people with Samsung TVs that have had serious problems. I have an older Hisense with zero problems. No guarantee going with one of the mainstream brands is going to be trouble free vs the "off brands".

[@ElGrueso]

My TCL Q7 had panel issues and had to return twice after 8 months… any brand could have issue.

[@craigjohnchronicles2504]

I have a Sony A9G OLED, still going strong - still flawless. ....knocking on wood I didn't just jinx our TV. We've had two problematic Samsung Plasma TVs where the HDMI ports started failing. We're down to one useful HDMI input port on our current Sammy plasma, so had to swap our old Denon AVR for a newer one that could handle HDMI switching internally. Next TV will be another Sony OLED.

[@CButti-x1s]

@@craigjohnchronicles2504 Just a heads up, Sony doesn't actually produce their own OLED panels from what I understand. I believe LG used to supply them and now they source them from Samsung if I'm correct. Of course Sony does its own thing in terms of software and stuff but they source the raw panels from others.

[@craigjohnchronicles2504]

@@CButti-x1s - correct. But Sony’s processors are proprietary, not shared with LG nor Samsung.

[@CButti-x1s]

@@craigjohnchronicles2504 Yes. Just the raw panels are out sourced.

[@amontobin09]

Sadly the model isnt availabel in europe the feature list looks awesome and so does the picture quality. On a sidenote i hope for a quickish Elac Debut 3.0 review they coming out next month. Edit: just found out that the US models QM851G is called X955 here in germany and is more than double the price. Would you guys still recommend the TCL over the Sony when considering the TCL cost double the amount?

[@michaellatta]

We bought a 75” Vizio 8 years ago that lasted about 5 years.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

That's awesome (and a little surprising).

[@ashyouknow7420]

15:33 In my experience with higher end LCD TVs from LG, none them last a day more than 2 years. The display tech now just doesn't last. And I i have seen that in the last decade. Their CRT TVs just lasted way more, I had one for almost 15 years had no problems. As companies go for thinner and slimmer designa every year, especially LG with their G series, the cooling is just not a consideration, nearly enough.

[@IanMacDonald-u1v]

Half the price of the Sony with very similar performance? The TCL would be on my short list if I was in the market for a new TV! Thanks for another great review and both your comments today. Cheers you two!

[@txerapng]

Great Friday everyone!!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Good morning! So glad you're able to join us.

[@txerapng]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews will watch later, currently interacting with animals on a farm.

[@KristiWright]

Hello!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

@@txerapng Well that sounds like fun, too.

[@txerapng]

@@KristiWright I think one of the replies I did to one of your comments didn’t go through, I didn’t ignore you.

[@jameslsm]

Glad I’m not the only one that noticed the “more modern look” of Furiosa… a film like that needs to be grainy and crunchy…

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

The modern style of Furiosa was an adjustment for me. It made the film look a lot more "studio" or composited/CGI versus the original Fury Road (which still had a LOT of CGI).

[@jpaart8342]

is the sony worth 3 times the price ?

[@KristiWright]

Here is the full review of the TCL which answers your question: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZneypGNrg62gjqcfeature=shared

[@cgott42]

@Andrewrobinsonreviews re: NLS. I definitely appreciate your pain (as a creator) of someone altering your work in terms of what you want the view to experience.. The problem though is that "Home" Theater (IMO) has surpassed Traditional Theaters. Thus creators need to make content with that in mind - that the VAST majority of their viewers are going to be viewing their work on a 65"(?) 16x9 aspect ratio screen. Thus, if they continue to make it scope (for that additional effect enveloping the angles that our eyes can see) they can't expect the viewer to then lose 33% of the viewing area!! That loss of emersion itself is a change from the director's intent of what he/she was trying to accomplish by filling the side viewing angles via 2.35. All the more so that many are now buying 85, 98", and larger. Of course, ultimately, there needs to be one standard AR. i.e. this is a legacy issue dating back to a time when movies where pretty much soley viewed in theaters. The fact that this is an issue is kind of crazy when you think about it.

[@lpromer4796]

Wow! Never thought about it that way, but truth

[@DrakonR]

Been on the Dolby Vision train for several years now and I'm just not buying it. HDR10 provides a nearly identical experience 99% of the time. The only reason Dolby Vision has going for it over HDR10+ is brand recognition. Would much prefer the open source method of HDR10 than Dolby.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Oh, I agree. I appreciate the open-source nature of HDR10/HDR10+, but if the content isn't taking full advantage of it, that's a problem. Studios use DV because it has customer/consumer recognition. That doesn't make it better or best, but the adoption rate cannot be ignored.

[@brecwinchester8487]

@andrewrobinsonreviews it's the same with atmos vs dts-x. Atmos is more common and better known, but dts-x blows it out of the water with the dynamic range and bass impact. Which is why I would assume that true imax content is in dts-x.

[@DrakonR]

@@brecwinchester8487 I've come to a similar conclusion. DTS has been a much better audio experience in many cases.

[@TokeBoisen]

​@@brecwinchester8487both DTS:X and Atmos are lossless formats with the same general bitdepth and samplerate specs, and for consumer formats they have the same general object count limits as well. The format is the least of the differences you could point to for the way you experience movies using them. Much more likely it's a mastering decision or the way your processor/AVR decodes the formats that matter.

[@alandawson9419]

Does DV or hdr 10+ even matter anymore if you have a super bright tv and good tone mapping? I get it 5 years ago but most tvs can do it better internally right?

[@konmalamatedes2964]

A similar TV for Europe x955 costs twice as much.

[@RunEmDownTony]

Thanks for the information bro. But again I have few earlier on blu rays that I can watch the content with the picture covering the entire screen, without it being cutoff and degrading the picture quality. I just don't understand why they stopped doing this. There should be options. You shouldn't have to force the creators intent on people, give options variety. For example. Surround sound systems, or soundbars have different modes on them and different EQ settings. They don't force you to listen as the creator intended right? You have direct or standard mode which is the so called creators intent, which is the most accurate representation I suppose, but then you have other modes like movie mode, game mode, adaptive mode all of which adds to the experience. All I'm saying is give options, they did give us options before.

[@maxpower78-15]

Busy day. Catching up now

[@SENCORE_ISF]

I calibrated a Sony GTZ-380 for Definitive Audio in Seattle… Then, connected to a MAD VR. We spent more time on tech support trying to get the image to look remotely better than the image I created without it was….. Hilarious. Thank U also not a fan of MAD VR especially for television. One element which may assist projectors with limited light output is the VR’s ability to produce seemingly brighter Specular Highlights, but on a television….. Nah not worth it

[@celioguim]

Great review. Now, you are comparing a mid-level Sony (X90L) with a top of the line TCL (QM8) ... if TCL is sweating to get close to the X90L, then that's not saying much, is it? I'm not saying that the X90L is bad, but it's not the best Sony has put out. I've seen the QM8 at a Best Buy store and it looks amazing. I also saw the LG 98QNED89TUA and it looked freaking amazing! I bought an LG NanoCell after one of your reviews :-)

[@pieflies]

The fact they are not competing with the same level of the Sony lineup is not the point. The point is that the TCL is competitive with a Sony model that is more expensive than it. In some sizes and countries it’s significantly cheaper, so for a lot of people even if it’s slightly less good in some regards, it’s fine if you’re paying half the price and you don’t have unlimited TV budget. TCL also does have a higher end model in China that isn’t sold worldwide yet, so they’ve got more to come in future.

[@lucasrem]

I was on a Quantum Dot 4k TV, but i returned it. Not many HDR 1000 Screens on the market, OLED is just not that good.

[@cgott42]

@AndrewRobinsonReviews: Another great video. Q - How does the QM851G compare to the 85" '23 Hisense UX - which you loved (when it worked) - i.e. assuming that Hisense now works - how does the PQ compare to the QM851G?

[@prestoncline9391]

Great Video

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@chebrubin]

I joined. You guys are speaking Truth to Power and Power to Truth. Andrew might have a hard time letting go. I know I did several years ago moving on from the Sony Bravia. Obviously Bad Boys Ride or Die and Furiosa. So funny the FOMO verse and the rabid OLED Robert Zohn TV Shoot Out fan boys just won't believe what they see in front of them.

[@John-ok8ts]

Really, I only have one sofa in front of both my 70 inch TV and one infront of my 120 inch projector 🙂

[@chulwoo00]

How about LG? Are they one of those 'non-cooperative' brands?? Maybe you've addressed this and I missed it or don't remember? What a shame if that is the case..

[@KristiWright]

LG has been sort of like an on-again, off-again relationship. There was a while a couple of years ago when getting their products for review was pretty easy but then something changed. I continued to seek review units throughout this time and we finally received one for review. It's a 65" which means we won't be able to compare it do the larger TVs we typically cover. But hey, it's a start.

[@Ocho817]

On the forums multiple 851g owners report an issue with audio sync in 24hz content from an external source - blu ray/apple tv ect. No issues for you guys i assume?

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

We didn't encounter sync issues apart from an instance or two when watching Netflix streaming, but this is a Netflix issue not TCL because we've experienced it with TCL and Sony.

[@TheMailerDaemonLives]

@@andrewrobinsonreviewsI believe this issue has to do with frame rate matching personally. I get an obvious sync issue on Apple TV content on the ATV4K in 24hz. Interestingly, switching to game mode solves the audio sync issue. On the QM851G when you let the ATV run with no frame rate matching, 60hz is fine. No audio sync in that case. Why would 24hz be causing that problem? I don’t like pulldown straight up, judder and stutter are worse when forcing 24hz up to 60hz.

[@michaelrossmaessler200]

Drama on the internet, tell me about it .. otherwise great show Andrew and Kristi 😊

[@LiviuGeorge85]

❤ new videooooo🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@KristiWright]

Thanks for joining us!

[@BrucifyMe]

The lengths at which you go for TV reviews and their subsequent Unpluggeds has me really intrigued - would y'all EVER consider monitor reviews? I mean, it's not like you _don't_ have a desk, yeah?! 🤣

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Since it isn't a focus of the channel, it's not likely a category we will explore. We attempted to obtain monitors at one point but those discussions went nowhere.

[@jamestullis4648]

997 like... come on we NEEEEEED A 1000 PLUS LIKES

[@gregcrezee4071]

Hey Andrew! Long , long time no chat! I realise this is a tv review. But something has been weighing ... heavily on my mind, and I need to say it now, so I don't forget! We hear the over used word of..... audiophile all the time. My father always used to tell me, unless you, yourself build every piece of equipment in your system, your not an audiophile, your an audio enthusiast! The ones that crack me up the most? If an individual can simply go in and spend 500k on a system, vs. the person who can only spend 10k. Does that make that person an audiophile? Absolutely not! (IMO) Andrew Jones said it best ..... a true audiophile is one who can discern the sound difference between a $300.00 and $400.00 set of speakers. Anyways .. what I'm getting at is, what is your take of what an audiophile truly is? As always, thanks for such entertaining videos!

[@frommatorav1]

I am also against messing with the TV aspect ratio, Andrew. At least MADVR is trying to make it look as good as possible. I hate going to relatives and seeing them watching SD on an HD TV and using zoom to fill the picture. There isn't much that looks worse than that that... short fat fuzzy people with large faces on screen. A field goal appears to have the football travel super fast off his foot, slows in the middle, then zooms by the goal post, all the while the football looks stretched even more oblong at the beginning and end. Sorry for the rant. Just a pet peeve.

[@jsonlee01]

Why does Kristi only exist as a disembodied voice?

[@brooklynknightss]

Its like home improvement the tv show..lol

[@JimLigon]

Changing the aspect ratio of a video/movie makes it look weird and warped. Yuck! I'm with you Andrew. Never do this. It looks ridiculous. It's like when I walk into a doctor's office and the 4:3 content on the TV is stretched to fit 16:9. It looks completely horrible.