Easy Generator Testing

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Farmall Doctor

Farmall Doctor

Күн бұрын

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@tatatoofey
@tatatoofey 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. In two minutes you provided the information I needed that countless other videos were lacking.
@danjarvis6980
@danjarvis6980 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding: the simplicity and technical instruction flow flawlessly. Well done sir.
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou, sir!!
@daryusharash7790
@daryusharash7790 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. It made it so easy for me to test the (12 V) generator on my VW beetle.
@davidsmith7631
@davidsmith7631 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, straight to the point and so very helpful.
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I am very glad that I can be of help to my fellow collectors.
@jamesrice6096
@jamesrice6096 6 ай бұрын
Excellent!! To the point. Accurate info. No fake rural accent while some bubba tries to figure out what he's doing. We need more like you!
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I like to help out and share what I learned from the old boys that taught me, and tricks that I have come up with.
@earlebubar1805
@earlebubar1805 Жыл бұрын
Great video, use these methods to check the older Delco Remy 1100 series on early Piper aircraft. Same stuff apples. Thanks for posting this information
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor Жыл бұрын
Thankyou! My family and I love older aircraft as well!
@Michael-st1hl
@Michael-st1hl Жыл бұрын
Very clear and precise explanation that is easy to understand. Thank you very much! A big help.
@thedavesofourlives1
@thedavesofourlives1 Жыл бұрын
brilliant, concise, clear, thanks!
@Steventhedieseltechapprentice
@Steventhedieseltechapprentice 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Going to try this on my Oliver 60.
@Inflec
@Inflec 9 ай бұрын
In following this man's advice there is one big caveat regarding grounding the field (F) terminal of the generator. This should only be done on generators that use an externally grounded field (also known as an A-circuit field). There is also a B-circuit field, which is an _internally_ grounded field. In this configuration the connection to the F terminal must go to the hot (ungrounded) side of the battery, whether it's positive or negative, to get full output or to check the generator slowdown when motoring it. Ford used the B-circuit configuration almost universally in its vehicles which were equipped with generators. This would likely also be the case with its tractors. So it behoves anyone doing these tests to know what configuration your particular charging system uses for its field circuit.
@jamescaneda9515
@jamescaneda9515 2 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s what I wanted to know. I have a 6 volt positive ground generator on an international pickup. The new relay states to ground it to reverse the polarity. I called the retailer and he didn’t know. I’m waiting for the AC Delco mfg to call back for information.
@frankkeyes5849
@frankkeyes5849 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, Thank you!
@Beemer540
@Beemer540 Жыл бұрын
Sir, an excellent tutorial. I just dont quite understand the last part where you bypass the regulator. You only show the jumper cable ends at the regulator/ generator, are the other ends connected to the battery ? And if so on what should you see "a full charge" shown, does your tractor hav a charge gauge fitted? Mine doesn't.
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor Жыл бұрын
Yes, in a sense, the jumper leads are connected to the battery. As in, a known good ground, and battery positive. Yes, most older systems have a volt meter or ammeter, but some only used a charge indicator lamp. You can test with a volt meter. Also, if your dash light does not come on when key is on, it may be burned out. If it is burned out, the system will not charge.
@kennycriswell141
@kennycriswell141 Жыл бұрын
So on positive ground like John Deere would you run negative to amateur and positive to ground?
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor Жыл бұрын
That is correct.
@kennycriswell141
@kennycriswell141 Жыл бұрын
@@FarmallDoctorI appreciate your video. I've run your test on 2 of my tractors today and discovered that my voltage regulators are bad. Replaced one and got it charging. Gotta get one more. Again thank you for the information
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor Жыл бұрын
@@kennycriswell141 glad to help!
@marcmarin6236
@marcmarin6236 11 ай бұрын
Great video. I have a 6v. pos. ground tractor. When you mention connecting a lead from battery pos to armature terminal, is the lead actually coming off the pos batt terminal (the one with the the mesh cable going to ground)?
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 11 ай бұрын
No, the other way. When we say "battery positive" we are meaning the machine, not necessarily the battery.
@marcmarin6236
@marcmarin6236 11 ай бұрын
So is it safe to say, connect a lead from the neg. terminal (since mine is a pos gnd) and the other end to the armature of the gen? In other words, think of wiring it up in reverse? @@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 11 ай бұрын
That's correct.
@ianrobinson9565
@ianrobinson9565 Жыл бұрын
A knowledge of electrical theory helps. I see a lot of videos and while the person posting the video may know what they are doing, the person receiving the advice may not understand what is being said. When I am teaching how to test and repair generator and regulator I always use the LUCAS ELECTRIC SYSTEM for explanation and circuitry. It is a very simple system and the 3 or 4 tests to do in the field can be done with a volt meter and a shorting wire.
@cd4222
@cd4222 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the troubleshooting tips!
@jamescaneda9515
@jamescaneda9515 2 ай бұрын
Will this work on a 6 volt, positive ground? Do I place the leads as you did, or differently because it’s positive ground?
@James-z2c7g
@James-z2c7g 2 ай бұрын
I was curious weather he was working with positive or negative ground myself.
@James-z2c7g
@James-z2c7g 2 ай бұрын
I looked through the comments and he does confirm that he is working with a negative ground system. So I would imagine that for a positive ground system everything would be done backwards (except for the polarizing part which btw is not the procedure for old 2-brush ford generators). Let us know how your test goes.
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 2 ай бұрын
@@jamescaneda9515 this 6 volt system is positive ground.
@jamescaneda9515
@jamescaneda9515 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@FarmallDoctorNo, I heard I’ll take the negative lead that’s ground. RED is positive hot, BLACK is ground. Did I hear wrong? I need this information because I’m installing a new generator plus a new voltage regulator. Your video was the easiest to follow.
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 2 ай бұрын
@@jamescaneda9515 sorry, when i say "battery positive" that is meaning negative.. Because of the positive ground. It was drilled into us during college training, and I can't stop saying it that way.
@seanstroud4313
@seanstroud4313 9 ай бұрын
Do I leave the battery hooked up and just run wire test wire or do I unhook battery? Positive ground 12 volt system
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 9 ай бұрын
Yes, i leave the battery hooked up.. Just remove the wiring harness from the regulator and generator, and use the test wire.
@johndawsonjr
@johndawsonjr 6 ай бұрын
I purchased a 6 V voltage regulator. I can’t seem to find a positive ground one. Does it matter
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 6 ай бұрын
It should be pos ground. I've never seen a 6V neg ground system in North America
@johnmary1852
@johnmary1852 Жыл бұрын
Im missing something here.. I did all the test and tested all good but generator will not put out? why? When it is all hooked up it wont put out and with it all un hooked the generator wont put out.. If it will motor it should put out..? it all bran new. Any answers or help would be greatly appreciated
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor Жыл бұрын
Re-check your wiring connections, check that the Ammeter is in good shape, make sure the belts are tight, be sure that your generator and regulator are absolutely grounded.
@JacobAHull-nx6rx
@JacobAHull-nx6rx Жыл бұрын
If the regulator is bad, will it cause no spark to coil. I have brand new coil and ignition kit installed but I still cannot get spark. I think I may have a gound but cannot find it. Also my ammeter shows no charge while system was running..maybe the ammeter is bad. Before my tractor stopped running it would run for a few minutes and then just die. Pretty sure my generator is good cuase my battery stays when running. I have 1950 Farmall H. Thks
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor Жыл бұрын
Hi Jacob. Sorry for the late reply. Not directly... unless your battery goes dead while running. Ignition is fed directly from the ignition switch. Check for power to the + side of the coil first. Maybe a bad switch! I would have guessed a bad coil... if you have another coil to swap into it, that would be a good test. I had a new coil die on my W9. Check to make sure that the condenser is held tight in the distributor. I have had some that the new clamp was too large for the new condenser. it MUST be tight and well grounded. Test the ignition points by putting a test light on the wire coming out of the distributor. While cranking it should flash as the points open and close. Observe that when the light goes out, it is completely out. Some new points have a glazing on them and they may need polishing. I use ultra-fine 2000 grit wet-dry sandpaper from an auto supplier to polish them. Let me know what you find.
@JSTEALTH
@JSTEALTH 2 жыл бұрын
Can this be done on a generator with a tach drive? Or should the tach cable be removed first?
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 2 жыл бұрын
It can be done either way. I would spin it by hand first to make sure that there isn't excess drag from the cable and tach.
@tysonlarson1
@tysonlarson1 Жыл бұрын
Is your Oliver Positive ground or negative ground?
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor Жыл бұрын
This one is Positive ground. But when I say "battery positive" I am meaning the power side of the tractor. So that means that the power from the jumper wire comes from the negative post... not the ground side. (+)
@edherwick6995
@edherwick6995 Жыл бұрын
Does this same procedure work on 3 wire generators?
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor Жыл бұрын
A 3 wire generator such as a Lucas on a Ford tractor? No. They are polarized by connecting battery positive to field circuit momentarily.
@edherwick6995
@edherwick6995 Жыл бұрын
@@FarmallDoctor It is 1959 MF 65, perkins diesel. Supposedly original generator rebuilt recently. No manufacturer visible on generator. New ammeter, wiring and regulator. There are at least 3 different wiring diagrams for this setup (or more). Not charging...trying to sort this thing out.
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor Жыл бұрын
Make sure that both the generator and regulator are properly grounded. You can use a test light to verify. Put the test light lead clamp on battery positive and touch each component with the probe. It is a common issue. The regulator should have had instructions included for polarizing. If not, your rebuilder can instruct
@mrfarmall-vk4gw
@mrfarmall-vk4gw 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!👍
@ronmckinley8406
@ronmckinley8406 Жыл бұрын
Is all this done while it’s still connected to the battery? Thanks for your help. God bless you!
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor Жыл бұрын
"Motoring" the generator test is done with the wires disconnected from the generator and regulator. Polarizing and testing of the regulator is done with everything connected and the unit running.
@ronmckinley8406
@ronmckinley8406 Жыл бұрын
This question is about to show my novice at best experience. Will starting the car and disconnecting the battery let me know if the generator is doing it’s job? (For reference) It’s on a 58 Oldsmobile Super 88. When sitting the battery stays charged but drains when driving it. I’ve had it serviced and the guy said it’s in proper working order. Is it possible the aftermarket electric fuel pump has something to do with it? Thanks for the help.
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor Жыл бұрын
@@ronmckinley8406 that may work with some systems, but it's not reccomended. The best test is to check the voltage while it is running right on the battery posts, then move the test leads to the cables, and finally at the regulator to see if there is any change. Check, clean, and tighten all cable and wire connections. They can be finicky!
@ronmckinley8406
@ronmckinley8406 Жыл бұрын
I Thank you very much for your time and sharing your knowledge.
@pacoguerilla3097
@pacoguerilla3097 5 ай бұрын
I need to mount new generator and regulator, but don’t know the proper wiring. So I’m stuck and will try my best, hoping not to burn circuits.
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 5 ай бұрын
@@pacoguerilla3097 F on regulator to F on generator, GEN on regulator to A on generator, BAT on regulator to ammeter or volt meter. L on regulator if there is not always there, or not always used. That is a load circuit that goes back to the light switch. Not necessary.
@pacoguerilla3097
@pacoguerilla3097 5 ай бұрын
@@FarmallDoctor Thanks a lot !
@grasshoppercrews1296
@grasshoppercrews1296 2 жыл бұрын
My case will only spin if I use hot as ground and negative on armature , generator removed from tractor is this normal ?
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 2 жыл бұрын
It is polarized for positive ground. Some old generators are more finicky that way.
@grasshoppercrews1296
@grasshoppercrews1296 2 жыл бұрын
@@FarmallDoctor thank you
@donvoll2580
@donvoll2580 2 жыл бұрын
Good day We do'n't have W-6 or 4 any moreI just kept 574. I remember W-6 having generator or regulator having problems Thanks should have known this 20 yrs ago.
@mystic24100
@mystic24100 2 жыл бұрын
Your battery is negative ground, right.
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@PatHaskell
@PatHaskell Жыл бұрын
Scared the crap out of me when it first sparked!!
@Praising-Christ-JesusAllmyLife
@Praising-Christ-JesusAllmyLife 2 жыл бұрын
Boom
@mikedieken155
@mikedieken155 10 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but I wish you would do a better job explaining the jumper connections you did to test the generator. The tractor is positive ground which gives me an instant head ache. I just don't fully understand what you are doing. Otherwise you do an excellent job of keeping to the point. So many just ramble on with meaningless garble.
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 10 ай бұрын
"battery positive" Is a general term that we use to identify the "hot" side of the circuit, no matter whether the system is negative or positive ground. Ground is always referred to as ground in both. "Battery Positive" jumped to the A terminal makes the generator "motor" no matter if it is positive or negative ground. If you were to ground that A terminal, nothing would happen.
@onetransmission7871
@onetransmission7871 8 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but you definitely are not a mechanic. This is not how you check any generator.
@FarmallDoctor
@FarmallDoctor 8 ай бұрын
LOL... Show us your method then.
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