"Eating MORE Junk Food Is Healthier!" | The Internet Dietician Problem

[@KianaDocherty]

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[@Antigone10]

Coke makes Fairlife high protein filtered milk. In fact, they make many healthy beverages. 60% of women in the US do not get their minimum daily protein requirement and should probably drink a protein shake from Coca Cola. Just saying, dieticians can absolutely partner with food companies AND do good.

[@mstly4lg]

Is spam okay? Dominoes pizza is just bread and cheese...is that really bad?

[@dynamichunter843]

@@mstly4lgspam is extremely high in sodium (like dangerously if eaten every day). Pizza is not great for you but not awful in moderation. Better to make it at home though, dominoes has a lot of preservatives and super cheap ingredients.

[@tristantries9211]

@@mstly4lg none of these ultra processed foods are just the whole foods Ingredients you expect. They are all chock full of preservatives and fillers. Make a pizza at home using whole food ingredients and it won't be that bad for you because it will actually just be bread, tomatoes and cheese or whatever

[@I_like_big_bombs]

Do you think that some of the fat acceptance movement might be people scammed by poor or mislead dieticians? Like when you're told so many contradictory things about food, lied to about the addictiveness of processed food, and sold fake diet products and unsustainable fads. It makes sense at least to me how someone might fail their weight loss goal, then give up.

[@imjstar]

I think the doctors and dieticians should also be held responsible. They have a duty of care to patients and are deliberately spreading misinformation and muddying the waters because they were paid to do so. Honestly I think it should be illegal for health professionals to receive payment for influencing health products, food and medicine.

[@redmaple1982]

THIS! Sponsorships are a net negative, you cannot be objective if money is involved.

[@middleofnowhere1313]

The Hippocratic oath: first, do no harm!

[@pleasethedragon]

Yeah, i think these health professionals dont realize that this backlash they experience when tgese unethical sponsoships come out are not a bug, but a feature for these large corporations. Nestle, Mondelez and the whole gang don't have easily reachable public faces, so the consequences will only ever fall upon the dietitians who do have very accesible public faces. And this is by design on the industry's part.

[@redolds231]

I believe “Dr. Oz” has been sued for exactly this, or at least shilling garbage fad diets. The garbage doctor defense (personal attack, I know, but I’m angry, please forgive me) is that when he’s pushing products he’s a paid actor and not working as a doctor. Even though on everything “Dr. Oz” pushes he touts his medical background and still goes by “Dr. Oz”, the quotation marks are because I now believe that is a stage name.

[@virginiakendziora3372]

Why are we not following European standards. Why is being allowed. Need to be more aggressive getting this information around to the general public. Boycotting works we have proof of that as of late.

[@ClayMastah344]

I had a dietitian and literally gained all the weight I lost trying to follow “healthy” tactics. They told me it was natural for my body to be obese. My counselor said the same thing due to an ED I had a decade ago. Some of these health professionals are NOT here to help you.

[@calm_cat]

Ugh I’m a new therapist and the way I see therapists talk about eating disorders and totally bunk “set point” weight is SO frustrating to me! But if I disagree I’ll be told I’m “promoting fat phobia/diet culture” or something. It makes me so scared to ever work with someone who might have an eating disorder, but it also makes me scared to refer them to someone else because I fear they might have the same experience as you.

[@misstoujoursplus]

This goes hand in hand with the "fat acceptance" trend. But when you're getting sick because of obesity, who will help you ? I made an experiment a few months ago. I bought some kind of lemonade with aspartam. Only one hour after drinking a single glass of this stuff, I felt hungry like hell ! Usually, I'm not hungry for hours but here, it was terrible ! Aspartam is not only dangerous for ones health but it promotes obesity as well because the fake sugar triggers the body to consume the real one. Sometimes, you do not need to have huge amounts of food and beverages to get obese : wrong food choices are enough. As Kiana said, people really need to know what they are eating and drinking. No, being obese is not natural at all. Remember the american people in the fifties : slim and healthy, sometimes a little chubby, but that's fine, that's not obesity !

[@OPPAWONTMARRYYOU]

@@calm_cat I honesly believe in the set point weight theory but no one's set point weight is in an obese spectrum lol These ppl are nuts

[@EmeraldAshesAudio]

@@OPPAWONTMARRYYOU Personally, I think the concept of "set point" is more like "What habits are you comfy keeping, and what weight does that land you at?"

[@calm_cat]

@@OPPAWONTMARRYYOU I actually mostly agree, I worded that kinda poorly lol. Like yes generally a healthy weight is going to be different for each individual person based on things like height, fat distribution, body type, etc. So in that sense there is definitely a sort of “set point” range that I think everyone has. But you’re right, that set point is never going to be overweight/obese, lol

[@Kazenikatze]

I remember that in a beginning it was this 80/20 percent rule (eat 80% healthy, unprocessed food, the 20% may be "treats"), which is helpful to not see food in black/white but more reasonably preferred/less preferred, but it weirdly evolved into "all food is good" and "any restriction is inherently bad".

[@Penguin-gq7mp]

then you have the opposite which is restricting almost everything and there needs to be a good balance

[@artisticflower]

Yeah, I find it strange how many people worry about ED behaviors that are too restrictive, but say nothing about ED behaviors that are too overindulgent (binge eating, poor diet, eating at inappropriate times, etc.).

[@oliveman9065]

Is there a reason for 20% specifically? I’m more into animal nutrition than human and for them the amount of treats is pretty universally as 10% I agree on that sentiment regardless

[@defeqel6537]

90/90: 90% of calories from whole foods 90% of the time, ie. a small treat every day is fine (that 10% equals about a glass of juice), and 2-3 days a month it's fine to have a bigger indulgence, like a piece (!!) of cake or pizza

[@miaomiaou_]

@@artisticflowerI think it boils down to audience. These dietitians have a certain irl clientele. The dietitians themselves are generally thin women, who are enthusiastic about nutrition and eat healthy diets. Their clientele is not that different from them. So they give that same advice online but online, their audience is more diverse. If a morbidly obese person walked into their office, they would likely give different advice, as telling them to continue to “eat intuitively” would be ineffective.

[@ximar0ckstrx]

This is why I fired my first dietician. She pushed "eating all foods" a little to hard. I am a diabetic. I chose to cut out all sodas. She would literally push me to try to "at least try" to drink diet soda. Mind you, my sugar levels were so out of control, that I lost my vision. I regained it once I brought my sugar levels to normal again... but the fear I had of permanent blindness was real. And the entire time, she would yell at me to eat carbs and sugar. She even tried to block my WLS. I finally told her skinny a** to piss off. I felt like she was trying to keep me obese and unhealthy

[@ellieshaw693]

dude what the hell! i'm so glad you had a mind of your own and fired her ass

[@kpegc]

How on earth someone like that can be a dietician and tell people what to eat is beyond me. If she had any credibility, she'd know that diet sodas are even worse for you than regular ones because they contain sweeteners like sucralose or aspartame which are basically sugar on steroids. They're dangerous because they destroy your gut bacteria and ruin your whole digestive system over the long term. Good on you to get away from her when you did. I hope you're doing better now.

[@puesbien]

Dietician probably wanted to keep you on the hamster wheel to maximize profits. It’s cyclical but idc our food is horrible in this country. We would have Medicare for all if not for all coca-cola and pop tarts and McDonald’s. Oh and cigs + alc

[@johnnyrotten1666]

No she was trying to help you maintain a sustainable diet. I'm type 2 and I eat about 100g of carbs. I eat a little bit of junk food and drink sugar free sodas almost everyday. I also do cardio 30 min a day. My A1C is generally around 5.7. Doing this I've been able to keep the weight off and maintain this diet for 2+ years. Whereas before I would go hardcore cutting out all junk food trying to eat nothing but "healthy" and I could only last a few months then give in binge and gain it all back. It's ok to eat carbs and sugar as a diabetic as long as you eat the right carbs and be smart about it. Also there's absolutely nothing wrong with sugar free sodas. Don't listen to the fear mongering about artificial sweeteners. It's the most studied ingredient spanning over decades it's safe. Sugar free sodas are a godsend for diabetics like us because we get to enjoy a zero calorie zero sugar soda as much as we want and it doesn't affect blood sugar or weight.

[@atlun1010]

@@johnnyrotten1666 As long as you're "skinny" and able to "maintain this diet for 2+ years" you consider that a win? YIKES... I'm glad the OP commenter fired their dietitian. You sound so copium with your amount of soda drinking, not everybody drinks sodas every day diet free or not. Some people choose to drink stuff like tea which is naturally sugar free.

[@kahlanwilson6950]

I used to listen to the “keep the foods you want in your home so they lose their power”. It never worked for me, never. Once I stopped bringing trigger foods into my home my anxiety around food decreased and it helped me develop better impulse control. That meant for me no sugar foods and it’s made such a positive difference for me.

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

I always do better when I can have healthy snacks around and choose not to bring sugary stuff into the house once, instead of having to spend willpower choosing not to eat them every time I walk through the dining room. Unfortunately I'm living with a sister who really loves sweets and baking sweet things, and whose love language is sharing, so until I can move out my best bet is just to try to stay out of the house as much as possible T-T

[@charmaineespeut4627]

I used to buy a container of mini Brownies from Kroger. I demolished them with 24-36 hrs. The power is walking past them and not buying it. That's the power.

[@indiag89]

I did this too! I followed these ultra thin dieticans advice and kept candy in the house because they said it’d mean I’d stop binging. Not only did it not work but I became so depressed because of it. What works better is keeping it out of the house and buying fruit and yogurt and other healthy foods I actually enjoy eating.

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

@@indiag89 There's something so empowering about enjoying healthy food, too. So much marketing spreads the message that you have to choose between physical or mental health, that healthy things are bland and boring and unhealthy indulgences are a necessary part of self-love and self-care. There's something so validating and empowering about realizing that, no, I'm actually made to enjoy stuff that's good for me, and you guys are just a bunch of sharks trying to sell me cheap addictive junk.

[@rachelclark6393]

​@@eyesofthecervino3366 Do you think your sister would agree to put up and freeze some of her baked goods? Or share them with friends and family? If she loves to cook and especially loves to see other people enjoy her food, it might help to portion. For example, if she makes a 36 cookie recipe, cuts that into 3 and freezes 2 parts, she only makes 12 cookies. And if she puts 6 of those in a baggie for, say, her best friend, then between you two you can only eat 3 cookies each, even if you binge. I don't know if this might work, but I thought it might be a balance between making her stop cooking and making you unable to stay in the house.

[@darbymichelle]

It feels gross. Like if at AA they tried to tell you restricting alcohol would make you more likely to binge. It truly breaks my heart for those out there struggling with food and trusting these people.

[@Skukkix23]

yeah. Hey Mike you're stressed cause you can't drink? Have a beer it's alright

[@darbymichelle]

@@Skukkix23like seriously that’s the logic 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@amyc.peters1064]

So gross! Like evil gross!

[@darbymichelle]

@@amyc.peters1064 very much so

[@TimeQuxxn]

That's exactly what it's like. Because food addiction is very real.

[@me-zb7qm]

The diabetes care dietician posting that video after being paid just rendered me speechless. How could one do such a thing and sleep at night?

[@ruminationstation4200]

Diabetics are probably the one group who probably would benefit from aspartame since sugar is so detrimental on their body (at least while they work on reducing sweets)

[@Fogwell94]

By counting all the money you are getting from the food industry

[@tazeschwifty4363]

​@@Fogwell94literally what I was gonna say 😅

[@Shalyse1]

I agree. These are people's literal lives at stake!

[@psychokitty7268]

The American Diabetes Association has also been bought. Hospitals use the guidelines of the ADA to feed their diabetic patients. When my uncle was in the hospital, his breakfast was fruit and toast. 🙄

[@brusselsproutenjoyer]

As someone with ADHD, I CANNOT keep highly palatable foods at home because they WILL be demolished within 24hrs. It doesn't matter how much I "allow" them to try and lessen their appeal, it was never about restrict-binge cycles for me. The rush they give my impulsive, dopamine-starved brain is too irresistible The only thing that works for me is restricting those foods at home, and if I crave them, buying single servings when I go out so I can eat them right away (and also medication lmao)

[@SimBits]

I'm autistic and I tried that but I ended up just never eating because I couldn't work through the executice dysfunction to cook something for myself, my therapist then told me it's more importany that I'm eating SOMETHING than if I'm eating unhealthy. I wish there was a solution :(

[@Hiphop618]

A lot of people struggle with that, it’s not some quirky ADHD/autism thing. Stop attributing everything to that.

[@azlizzie]

@@SimBitsprecut foods are fabulous. It is an easy to way to get veggies and fruits without then going bad while fighting with yourself to get them cut up and washed.

[@funlover163]

​@@Hiphop618I don't think you understand.

[@lainiwakura1776]

@@Hiphop618 Self-discipline is learned, something most people do not know.

[@nevermindmyname813]

I disagree. The dieticians should absolutely be taking heat. This is no different from a beauty influencer promoting a mascara that doesn't work. As an influencer, they have a responsibility to be honest with their viewers. These dieticians know that what they are saying is false, but they are taking the money and lying to their viewers on purpose. It's despicable

[@LTDLetsPlays]

They should be fired immediately and the companies shouldn’t be allowed to pay scientists and doctors as it will breed corruption

[@-astrangerontheinternet6687]

Influencers only responsibility is to be likable. They owe their viewers nothing except a cute look.

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

It's no different from a beauty influencer promoting a mascara that makes you die young, haha.

[@Kingofthenet2]

I agree. There should take at least some responsibility. They are such a terrible influence on people with no self awareness. I don’t understand why people listen to anyone on Tik Tok

[@fran791]

It is WAY WAY worse than a beauty guru promoting a mascara that doesn't work. Because you won't get terminally or cronically ill from a flimsy mascara

[@sarahp8937]

A close friend has been diagnosed with BED and she sees a HAES dietician. Result.... she's just getting bigger 😭 and I was headed that way too because it is easier to blindly follow 'all food is good' advise, but this video has really refreshed me. Thank you!

[@fran791]

"All food is good" is literally the devil wispering in your ear hoping that you get sick and die. Only the food that humans would naturally eat in nature is good, so: meat, fish, seafood, dairy, fruit, vegetables. Everything else will slowly make you malnourished and obese because it will mess up your insulin and every single other hormone in your body that regulates hunger and peace of mind.

[@pamelapelosi5762]

I had the same issue. I came out of BED recovery and found a HAES dietitian; I explained what I was looking for - learning to eat healthy and balanced so I can prevent binge eating. They told me every food fits and it's ok to eat junk food; no stipulations or information on how this may affect my body. After about a year of this, I remember telling her how my A1C kept increasing and I was at a higher weight than I was before entering BED treatment. I was freaking out and wanted some information on managing blood sugar/insulin levels so I would not go into the diabetic zone. She told me to keep eating how I'm eating and that it's genetic. After 3 sessions of me telling her I don't know what to do and not getting an actionable response, I fired her and found someone who specifically tackles diabetes and has experience working with people in ED recovery. She taught me how to make a nutritious plate, how to take notice of my body when I eat sugar, or over eat, and how I feel when I exercise consistently and eat fiber-rich foods. I've since lost 30 lbs and while I still struggle with comfort and over eating, I definitely don't binge anymore.

[@NCardosoIres]

It’s so crazy… the discurse makes you think that the most part of the population is anorexic when it is exactly the opposite

[@liviumdec]

It's a reflection of the general demographic of dietitians. The profession has made some steps in recent years, but is still largely homogenous... and not reflective of the general population.

[@tristantries9211]

Yes I think they project their own personal issues on the world and think everyone has the same issues they do. In reality most of the first world suffers from binging and food addiction or chronic over consumption not restriction and Anna.

[@Abby-ug4xc]

What I've seen is the theory that restricting your diet at is what leads to obesity in the first place- that's why they say to give into cravings, so you don't overeat later. But like Kiana says, eating UPF causes more cravings for it, for some people those cravings are unmanageable. IMO, we should ban fast food/junk food advertising, especially at children. There's no need at all to entice children to eat things harmful to their health, and normalize it to them to continue those eating habits into adulthood

[@NCardosoIres]

@@Abby-ug4xc absolutely, I can speak for myself, I'm exactly like that... it's like a vicious cycle... if eat something with a lot of sugar it is so difficult to stop and when I only eat healthy, it is very difficult to go back to bad habits. Dietitians should teach people about how to make healthier options to deal with cravings like chosing a home made cake rather a industrialized one... but like she said they are being paid by this industries to say that so...

[@lindz758]

As a therapist who often works with people with diet issues, i dont think there's anything wrong with deeming certain foods as bad or unhealthy for us. I think the problem is when people believe "Im bad / a bad person for eating this food" which then leads to a shame / binge cycle. It would be helpful if dieticians were able to help people make this distinction.

[@RJ-rh6cm]

Thank you. The nuance you've added is what seems to be missing in most of these discussions

[@vodkalatke]

This is such a great distinction! Yes, there's no bad foods "morally" but there are bad foods "physically. " I believe that many "intuitive eating" dieticians do not understand this difference.

[@shani1928]

Thanks. We do try to promote healthy conversation around eating and nourishing the body, but in some.cases we feel that ED dietitians woyld be a better helper than those who are not experts.

[@m.aj11]

Excellent point! Especially when we take into consideration that ultraprocessed food was carefully created to be addictive, there is nothing wrong in accepting that our brains are very prone to be hooked up to the substances used in food industry. It is not our fault that we all enjoy at least some sugary or crunchy snack, however denial that these foods are bad for us is very problemtic.

[@user-mg2qz6ep2o]

Yes people get too emotional about it instead of being critical, I agree with that

[@FinalFaith]

Seeing a “dietician” showing their viewers candy and junk food while telling them it’s okay to eat is the one of the shadiest things I’ve ever seen.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

As a binge eater who’s aware and trying. There’s just some foods I can only eat in moderation if I only buy a single portion or if I have one and share the rest

[@yawninghamster7238]

Yup. Imagine a medical professional at a rehab center dancing around in a beer commercial, or salespeople at Rogaine shaving their heads. Now imagine a dietician pushing junk foo-oh wait...

[@rokzane]

The msg I am seeing is that it's perfectly fine to have a couple of fun size candy bars in your daily diet, but it's not okay to have a whole bag of them. Working fun foods into your daily calorie balance when your overall diet is pretty healthy and macro balanced is normal and fine. Telling yourself you can't have ANY candy is not fine. It's self-defeating.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

That’s the thing even portioned out doesn’t stop a binge eater. It’s best it’s not in my pantry or fridge in the first place@@rokzane

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

For a binge eater it’s a type of addiction I’m literally self medicating my ADHD and moderation doesn’t exist for the hyper palatable processed foods that are by design addictive and very low nutrition @@rokzane

[@NotACat2237]

You finally said it. I'm tired of people applying the diet advice you give to somebody who has battled restrictive eating disorders to apply to everybody. People act like if you cut eating something, you will get a restrictive eating disorder. I turn to eating to make myself feel better. There is not a magic formula that says you do x you will get this mental health issue. That's not how that works.

[@kittenillbehonest]

this! advice given towards people recovering from restrictive eds is valid but it's not what you'd tell to everyone.

[@andieallison6792]

They always jump to the extreme to justify not having to make changes to their lifestyle and diets. Like people who eat a lot of vegetables and fruits and exercise now have "orthorexia" according to the internet. Cutting down on sugar and snacks? Restrictive eating disorder. People glancing at you walking by them in the gym? They're secretly judging you and STARING DAGGERS at you. If you don't let your kid gorge themselves on candy or have dessert after dinner then you're setting them up for bulimia or Food InsecurityTM or some shit. It's ridiculous.

[@Boredblacksheep]

Sugar is literally so addictive and the problem is that it desensitives your taste buds to other tastes. I noticed that after not eating sugar for 2 weeks. Visiting Japan was eye opening to me because all their sweets had much less sugar than in Europe. To make things obvious, I also visited US. The sweets are twice as sweet as in Europe.

[@jodibraun6383]

In 2015 I broke a tooth that I couldn't afford to have fixed, so I stopped eating *all* sugar that wasn't fruit. I mean, I was hard-core, checking labels, diluting fruit juice etc. I lost about sixty pounds in roughly 3 months. 😮 During the lockdowns, I reintroduced sugar, and gained almost all of that weight back. Watching this video pisses me off enough to cut sugar out completely again. Sugar is addictive. Cutting it out was extended difficult. It made me angry for the first six weeks. After that, my taste buds changed, and healthy food actually began to taste good, fruits tasted almost too sweet at times. I craved healthy food. Imagine that.

[@pankopo]

american sweets make my eyes hurt when i eat them, the levels of sugar are so high its insane

[@erinpilla]

I agree. I drank milk tea everyday for two years! There came a point it all felt like water. I went through a medical loss program, and really drank milk tea just once a week, small no sugar. And that was already a bargain. Now I can't even stand sweet drinks. I'd spit it out if the store forget to take away the sugar

[@Noelle-h6f]

@@pankopo yeah because they're sweets

[@pankopo]

@@Noelle-h6f american sweets are specially sweet

[@kristin7762]

Yes Kiana!!! My hot take is that Binge Eating Disorder and food addiction are WAY more common than restrictive eating disorders- and just as important to avoid. Obesity is often a result of these disorders and not the result of diet culture or restriction.

[@chrono4998]

I always wondered why there were so many dieticians with that focus when it's actually niche, turns out so that they can look good while being paid by big food. there goes another shard of my innocence.

[@selenite3890]

​@@chrono4998because binge eating disorder is sometimes fueled by over restriction due to diet culture saying "cut everything out RIGHT NOW COLD TURKEY!!"

[@fran791]

​@@selenite3890well you could actually stop junk food cold turkey, it's not like an alchool addiction or a benzo addiction that will kill you. As long as you are doing it out of self love and not because you feel guilty or bad about yourself. The choices you make should be driven by positive thoughts, not scared negative thoughts

[@Voltage.Bone.R]

Doesn’t means that it is more common, doesn’t means that it should be left aside. Though those dieticians think this shit is gonna work for everyone

[@Marlena499]

Yeah Im currently at my lowest with a normal bmi and mainly eat healthy but sometimes Ill overeat however at my heaviest I was obese, wasn't being healthy at all I just ate whatever junk whenever I wanted 😂 "diet culture" wasnt keeping me fat it was processed food

[@HFC786]

Like buying scientists and doctors to say breakfast is the most important meal of the day to sell cereal

[@KianaDocherty]

LOL yup!

[@me-zb7qm]

That's a lie? I learn something new every day

[@dynamichunter843]

High protein and vitamin breakfasts are very, very good for you. Cereal and sugary crap - not so much. I have ADHD and don’t function without breakfast with at least 1 protein. But it goes for anyone who works a physical job or even a mental one.

[@justine3769]

​@Narslimmus If you eat healthy, nutrient-dense meals, you would be satisfied with 1 or 2 meals a day max. No snacking would be needed either.

[@danicalindsay303]

​@@justine3769it isn't good to skip meals and there is nothing wrong with snacking

[@ShonenJoe]

I think the dietitians deserve all the heat that they're getting. Big Food already knows that they're not trusted, which is why they reach out to people who are trusted. They weren't forced into this. They did it for a bag and should reap all the consequences that comes with it.

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

Yeah they knew what they were doing and it went directly against what everyone thought they were doing. I hope they get kicked off of social media.

[@markdotinc8371]

Agree. They profited from their unethical behavior and as such deserve consequences.

[@godislove1602]

Agreed

[@GabrielAKAFinn]

The consequences of fuckall, after this becomes stale news, ie in two weeks

[@mikekuppen6256]

At the very least they should clearly disclose they´re being paid for their messaging. If they don´t they should get a warning and the next time lose their accreditation. Sure: the dose makes the poison but that doesn´t seem to be what they´re saying.

[@MrFragalax]

One of those influencers mentioned how we need to address "the affordability of fruits and vegetables". I know this varies by region, but in my experience fruits and vegetables are not that expensive. You can buy 6-7 bananas for $2 or even less sometimes. Meat on the other hand, especially organic meat, can definitely hit you in the wallet.

[@JP-ve7or]

True! Also, canned and frozen vegetables aren't too expensive, and they keep. Buying fruit in season is the best. I got a ton of raspberries, blackberries, and cherries this year just by waiting and watching for big sales. I might be fortunate, though, that I don't live in a "food desert" where fresh produce is unavailable.

[@ellieshaw693]

yeah i felt like she was just straight up lying to us that fruit and vegetables aren't already affordable

[@Mslc727]

​@ellieshaw693 they're not too affordable where I live unfortunately. A small bundle of grapes is like 8 bucks for example

[@ellieshaw693]

@@Mslc727 wow that's wild!! i stand corrected

[@Mslc727]

@ellieshaw693 others are more affordable though. Bundle of bananas is still like 3 or 4 bucks, 2 kilos of potatoes is like 5, but apples are like 2 bucks apiece. Lol

[@bruh666]

I find it bizarre that the Federal trade Comission "advises social media influencers to be clear about who is paying them for promotions", like.. advises? How is that not legally mandatory? A doctor can go online and say "coca cola is actually not bad for you" while stating they are a certified medical doctor and they don't legally have to disclosed that they were payed to say that? Genuinly dystopian

[@cadenandthegirl]

I’m a recovering anorexic, and I really appreciate what you said about having a healthy relationship with food. The healthiest diet is one where you treat your body with respect, and that means eating healthy food most of the time and indulging cravings here and there. Completely avoiding certain food groups because you’re afraid of them isn’t healthy, just like indulging those cravings on a daily basis isn’t healthy. It’s all about balance.

[@Angel_Billy4-30-23]

God bless you and I pray for your continued success in recovery. I am a recovering heroin/opiate addict (2 and a half years clean) and I see so many parallels between drug addiction and food addiction or almost any other addiction too. I just wish that food addiction had almost the same taboo as drug addiction because you might have a lot less of these food companies trying to convince us that very unhealthy and extremely processed foods are healthy.

[@fran791]

You are right but we also need to remember that junk food is not a food group and sugar is not a food group. Our bodies are not made to digest those things. Then of course you can have a piece of homemade cake or a cookie once a week and it won't kill you or mess up your insulin. I think the solution to heal a disordered mindset is to focus on what our bodies love most, so: fruit, meat, fish, our ancestral foods that we ate all day before obesity ever existed

[@postiveelectron8879]

​@@fran791saying this to a recovering anorexic is not the move . We can digest sugar and most junk food and we can metabolize them as well, as she said, everything in moderation.

[@fran791]

@@postiveelectron8879 thinking about what foods are the most nutritious for humans is what helped me with my ED. I eat the things with the most nutrients: fatty meat, fish, dairy, fruits and a couple veggies and rice and pasta or potatoes if I need some carbs as filler

[@evilcorgi1367]

“People tell you to stop having hard liquor at your house if you struggle with alcohol, but that’s only going to make you want to drink more! As soon as you stop drinking every day, you’re going to want a drink EVEN MORE :O” Can you imagine? That’s what they’re doing with sugar. You don’t need sugar to survive, you definitely don’t need Easter candy.

[@misstoujoursplus]

Exactly. The less you eat sugar, the less you crave for it. The same goes with anything addictive.

[@fran791]

These people are evil

[@amajrae]

I know I'll come across as pedantic here, but... slight correction: you don't need REFINED sugar to survive. Your body needs sugar (glucose) to convert into ATP during aerobic respiration to fuel your body's cells, so you do need sugar to survive... just not the refined junk, and certainly not in excess. You can easily get unrefined sugars every day eating a proper, healthy diet that includes fresh fruits, veggies and grains.

[@fran791]

@@amajrae guess what you don't even need carbs to survive. There's people who have been on the carnivore diet for years. Humans can easily live in a constant ketogenic state. Fat is also more efficient at providing energy for the body

[@amajrae]

@@fran791 I knew someone would try bringing up keto or the nonsensical "carnivore" diet. First, no, these people are not eating only meat, (certainly not for years), and if they make that claim, they're lying, period. Keto, or carnivore, still uses copious amounts of butter and other dairy(butter), oils, nuts, etc.... dairy contains lactose, which is a sugar. Nuts also contain sugar in varying degrees, depending on the nut. There's no credible studies supporting long-term benefits, only questionable short-term ones. There's also the fact that an actual, pure carnivore diet would wreak havoc on your digestive system due to the lack of fiber. Humans, being omnivores, have a very long intestinal tract, and REQUIRE fiber of some kind to move waste along and keep it healthy. Obligate carnivores, such as cats, have short intestinal tracts since they don't/can't ingest plant matter. A true carnivore diet is not sustainable for a human and WILL cause problems if you stick with it, period. However, an actual keto diet, while still questionable, is very low carb, NOT no carb, and may be the only option for someone with severe IBS or crohns, depending on the person, but that's lit because their bodies can't handle most foods anyway. TL,DR: just eat a balanced diet of some meat, fruits and veggies since that's better for you than some fad diet.

[@Lilas.Duveteux]

My mom once tried artificial sweetners, but quitted them after learning about the risk and replaced with real sugar, simply consuming less sugary things. I learned to appreciate the taste of unsweetened tea, which does help with sugar consumption.

[@blue_578]

I will now consume double the amount of artificial sweeteners just to make up for your Mom

[@twinmama16]

Liquid stevia drops actually make unsweetened tea tasty! Just make sure its the drops not the powdery kind.

[@unturned6066]

​@@blue_578I do both, artificial sweetener in my soda-streamer and no sugar in my tea ✨

[@jessip8654]

@@blue_578 I mean, you do you. All people are asking for is to be informed on the possible harm these products cause without Big Food muddying the waters with their propaganda.

[@Lilas.Duveteux]

I would not recommand such.@@blue_578

[@hopek4505]

Newly registered dietitian here: I agree with what you are saying--in fact, we had guest lecturers from the dairy & meat industry speaking in our courses. I'm Canadian and when the new food guide was introduced in 2019, so many people were upset! That's because the new food guide is based on scientific research THAT IS NOT FUNDED by food companies or food industries. So, now the food guide encourages plant-based proteins, fibre, whole foods, and making water your drink of choice.

[@fran791]

Plant based doesn't equal healthy tho, most vegeterians are malnourished unless they consume big quantities of cheese, milk and eggs. There is a big chunk of the population that inevitably becomes diabetic if they have to rely on carbs as their main energy sourve. The healthiest human diet is animal based. You should read the studies that demonstrate that human health, especially bone and dental health declined a lot after the agricultural revolution

[@raedaze]

@@fran791lmfao. You’re hilarious. After not eating milk, eggs or cheese for 5+ years, i have not once been malnourished. Yearly blood tests are great. Yet for some reason.. everyone else I know that consumes a crap ton of those foods is way worse off health wise. There is plenty of scientific evidence to back that a diverse plant based diet is just as healthy for all age groups. You seem like a bot that is pushing keto/carnivore rhetoric.

[@raedaze]

Vegetarians or plant based people do not solely rely on carbs either. There is plenty of plant based protein and fat. All macronutrients are important.

[@fran791]

@@raedaze you do realize that "vegetable proteins" like legumes are still mainly carbs right?

[@jeffrey7063]

Plant based proteins are terrible and not bio available. Worst is most of them are inflammatory.

[@SlXkxmx]

As someone who cut sugar out of their diet, for a year or two, the only time I craved sugar was the first week or so. After that, I had no desire for it.

[@gothicc_gremlin]

Same, I stopped drinking sugar in my coffee, and ever since then I don't even desire to eat candy anymore, which is something I always did, always thought I had a massive sweet tooth. Turns out that wasn't the case

[@AuralayKristine]

I've cut way back on processed foods and added sugars and it's incredible how different I feel. My insane constant hunger is gone, for one! I've finally broken the weight loss plateau I've been stuck on for 8 months, for another. I've now lost 147 pounds! But the more I learn about the food industry, and the practices within it, the more I'm baffled half this stuff is even legal.

[@wuzittooya]

Congrats on the progress you've achieved! 🎉

[@lainiwakura1776]

Have you readjusted your TDEE to account for your lost weight? At some point those negative calories turn into maintenance calories the more you lose.

[@AuralayKristine]

@@lainiwakura1776 Yeah I had, but not far enough apparently. The issue was my appetite was so strong I couldn't keep my calories low enough to get off maintenance because I was still eating too much. I'd been aiming for 1800 calories a day, but landing closer to 2000 just from the excessive hunger. Once I cut out added sugars, I've been landing very naturally between 1300-1500, and losing weight again.

[@ellieshaw693]

that is awesome 🎉🎉🎉

[@fran791]

That means that those foods were making you insulin resistant. They were literally creating glitches in your body lol. That's why junk food makes us sick

[@GoldSkye]

I’ve suspected a lot of the food IG pages for this. A ton of them do side by side comparisons of food options and frequently suggest that all calories are created equally so an avocado toast compared to a Krispie crème donut is the same thing if the calorie count matches up. As if sugar addiction and glucose spiking and crashing, gut health, lack of nutrition aren’t issues.

[@rebeccaspratling2865]

Uhmurican things. 🙌

[@tristantries9211]

Right like at least avocado toast has some nutrients and will help fill you up. A crispie creme donut feels like eating air and you can eat like 4 at a time (if your teeth don't hurt) and your stomach doesn't really feel like it ate anything

[@elizabethduffy2145]

Interestingly, Pre-war and Wartime Betty Crocker was more about how to make food from scratch, how to be economical and how to spread rations as far as possible. Even as an advertising entity, she had earned trust. Turning her to the dark side meant it brought along a lot of that initial trust for her huge radio audience of the era.

[@StarxLolita]

We definitely watched the same Betty Crocker youtube doc.

[@manicpepsicola3431]

​@@StarxLolita what is the documentary thst sounds super interesting

[@chelseaoates610]

Would like to know what that documentary is as well

[@StarxLolita]

I'm pretty sure it was How To Cook That's "The $10 Million dollar lie"

[@spideratari]

Excellent insight!

[@drewalexanderwest8501]

Abby sharpe fully messed up my relationship with food and i am 50 pounds heavier than i was before i watched her content and really embodied it. I am experiencing actaul health issues because of it. I may have had anxiety around food, but listening to her made it worse AND im unhealthier because of it. Now i have to unlearn all of those habits. As a frequent binge eater, my "diet culture" habits were saving me from obesity aka what i have now.

[@fran791]

I KNEW IT, I knew she was harming people. Thank you for sharing this. I will tell you what helped me heal my relationship with food: the books by sally fallon and the weston price foundation blog. They focus on what ancient cultures ate and what hunter gatherer tribes eat. Those diets are our actual natural human diets and they are so good for our body. The books are "noirishing fats", "nourishing diets", "nourishing traditions". Also read the book by dr elizabeth bright and watch the videos by nutrition with judy. They have a science based approach and they go against the carb heavy guidelines that make everyone fat

[@indiag89]

Yeah and she’s skinny. She’s giving people advice she doesn’t follow at all. She’s a crappy person and probably rich because of it now.

[@boop79]

She is a mess!!

[@lisataylor3027]

I don’t like Abby either she is very harmful

[@nataliazart]

I'm so sorry for you. I tend to watch her videos but I never do what she says. One no necessary tip, what help me was watching a video about how french eat. No matters what I hope you find the right way for you.

[@phoelixphoelix9696]

I remember using the „restriction is bad“ and „all food is good“ claims as excuses for me giving in to my cravings. Regretting it instantly after overeating and feeling guilty for days afterwards, while the cravings grew stronger.

[@hydrohasspoken6227]

Try some more Cokes.😁

[@phoelixphoelix9696]

@@hydrohasspoken6227 why should I?

[@karaleigh_eva]

This is so depressing. Definitely the kick in the ass I needed to continue making my own food even when I don't feel like cooking

[@fran791]

Making food is easy bruh

[@twinmama16]

I hate when people say, " i read this so you dont have to...trust me bro"....also I disagree that the backlash these influencers are experiencing is unfair....they are certified, trained professionals who let their greed, instead of their ethics and codes, drive their decisions. I am not saying that big food isn't to blame, but to say its unfair for these influencers, who are using their platform to possibly deceive their audience who trust them is gross.

[@skeledirge99]

then just go find the article yourself

[@elihinze3161]

Agreed completely

[@emerylee3330]

you can still read the article lol shes been very thorough to cite direct quotes and acknowledge the spectrum of opinions. doesnt feel like a trust me bro situation. also i took her comment about clinicians completely differently, shes not saying they should get off scott free, but i think we can all observe that the majority of our energy is more effective when spent on the direct source of the issue.

[@DistortedRainbows]

This person is talking about one of the TikTok dieticians who said that she read the WHO report so her audience doesn't have to. They're not talking about Kiana.

[@DistortedRainbows]

3:27

[@kaleido9631]

Gosh, what a complex topic. Now that I am good at intuitive eating, I've actually realized I don't even like all the crappy quality candy that is promoted around holidays. I eat candy, but I eat *good* candy. Like high quality. But also, I don't have like candy bowls around my house because I can't deal with that either. There is so much nuance to the process of recovering from the binge restrict cycle - and it's about balance.

[@KianaDocherty]

man this comment lol🔥 i resonate so much. exact same.

[@thecatherd]

I feel you, I really feel you. A lot of fixing my relationship with food has been finding that balance and nuance that stops me from slipping back into the binge restrict cycle. It can be really difficult to find that balance.

[@lucietigger1641]

Agree with you completely. Intuitive eating (dare I say it, proper intuitive eating, not the 'eat junk cos you want it' thing it's being corrupted into) really helped me recover a restrictive ED bugging me for 30 years. I'm like you, I will eat sweet foods, although I don't really have a sweet tooth, but only decent quality things preferably small producers/home baked stuff. BUT I still won't have sweet foods in any quantity in my house as I do still have occasional urges to binge, I can most of the time talk myself out of it and identify my emotions.... But if I have sweet foods on easy access it's almost impossible to do.

[@mmmmmmmmaria]

i have the exact same experience. i’ll never stop loving HIGH quality pastries and baked goods so i try to only let myself have them occasionally. baking something nice a couple times a month and sharing with my work friends so that i only get to have one portion has been very nice. but if there’s something like random crackers around i WILL graze on them until they’re gone so i don’t keep that in the house

[@oliveman9065]

Right. When I was young I remember loving all the name brand candies. But now they all taste powdery and flavorless. It’s allll sugar and milk. sometimes I crave them, go to take a few bites and am sorely disappointed each time 😂 Even though I already know what it’s gonna be like.

[@char_lizard8440]

I'm not a dietitian but I know that in order for aspartame to be dangerous you would have to drink like 20 cans of soda a day and like a hundred packets of aspartame a day in order for it to have its full effect on being destructive to your body.

[@gothamarea]

That’s what I thought but this KZbinr never mentioned that

[@miricori]

The Food Industry is such a ruthless "organization", I'm finding myself getting a bit worried about Kiana. Hoping she won't ever have to deal with any issues due to "poking the bear". Thank you for another very much needed educational video! ❤As a junk food addict, there definitely is "bad food" for me. It's the shit that makes me binge, depressed and lose complete control of my life. Not allowing any of it into my house, anymore. And no, that doesn't make me crave it more. The longer I abstain from it, the better for my mental state. No more obsession over it. Truly freeing. Ultra-processed food doesn't even deserve the description "food", in my book. It's devoid of nutrients and it's harmful. Real food gives us life. 💚

[@JP-ve7or]

Honestly, I was also sitting here wondering if Kiana's going to get backlash. Are we paranoid or is this reality? 🤔

[@miricori]

@@JP-ve7or Looking at how politicians in Mexico & Chile literally got personally threatened by the industry when trying to tax soda & other junk food more, I don’t think we’re paranoid. Lots of power & money on the other side..

[@ninar7040]

your dog napping curled up like a doughnut in the back 🥺 the aesthetics of the lovely armchair and warm lighting make him look even cozier and more adorable! edit: his ears popped up!! my heart

[@danidejaneiro8378]

As an English teacher, I’ve conversed with thousands of students and professionals from around the world and I always ask them _“how did you get into that field?”_ Almost nobody responds with _“I’ve always been passionate about this topic”_ but rather something related to good job prospects, money, hours or just fell into it somehow. I’m sure there are plenty of dieticians like this.

[@jennyhateseverything]

It’s the sad truth about this world it’s all about money

[@somebodyyoumayknow2280]

I'm actually very interested in these topics and even considered getting a degree, but in my country dieticians just don't get paid enough 🥲

[@flameguy3416]

The food industry has gotten its talons into every institute or association that's involved with health. It first really started when Procter & Gamble gave the A.H.A. 1.7 million dollars in the 1910s. The A.H.A. then unsurprisingly began advertising for the use of P&G's new product 'Crisco', a hydrogenated cottonseed oil over the traditionally used animal fats and started to vilify animal fats for their saturated fat content. This is speculative but the time frames really fit.

[@directAction3389]

Trans fats are indeed INFINITELY worse. It legit took damn near a century to get the FDA to remove trans fats from the their GRAS (generally recognized as safe) list. Turns out fat isn't really the bad guy. Trans fats are. Highly processed food is so bad because it's just devoid of any real nutrients and straight up designed to make people crave more as they eat themselves to death very slowly.

[@annwilliams6438]

Have a look at The Physicians Committee and Dr Micheal Greger for groups that look specifically at nutrition across the board and which are NOT funded by ‘big food’.

[@lulupomegranate]

They they criticized animal fat for having fat?! IT'S FAT

[@yawninghamster7238]

​@@lulupomegranateyou're so right, yet they were still successful with their smear campaign. It's like every day we live in the Opposite Day episode of SpongeBob.

[@jassy0903]

I'm a nutrition student in training to become a registered dietitian. In one of our required culinary classes, a lobbying group gave a presentation on the health benefits of beef and how it doesn't actually contribute to climate change, cows are really happy etc obviously all lies. The RD that works for the beef lobbying group, basically told us people are going to eat what they want to eat so don't bother telling them otherwise. Like, what? I've also met RDs that work for the dairy counsel, egg counsel, and pork board. Is it unethical? Absolutely.

[@DF9392]

YES. When I was in registered dietitian school, we had to do a mandatory field trip to a dairy farm where the milk industry of my home state talked to us about how much dairy we should consume each day for optimal overall health. They said there are no plant milks that could even come close to replacing the nutrition dairy provides (which is not even true.. soy and pea protein are similar and a balanced diet provides all the nutrients and complete protein anyone could ever need). Ugh it’s so frustrating.

[@elizabethscullion8550]

I’m a registered dietitian in the uk and work in the nhs. I can’t believe this is allowed! We are unable to accept any payments of gifts and have to register additional employment with our regulator the hcpc. We are also audited randomly to make sure our interventions are evidence based. I’m blown away by this, so wrong!

[@CheerfulNihilism]

I was getting my PhD in Health education in 2016, and I was invited to present my dissertation research at FNCE - The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics hosts the annual conference, but it's sponsored by pepsico, Nabisco, etc. I declined to present. I left the discipline because it was so depressing to realize that lots of nutrition research is literally funded by the food industry.

[@fran791]

That's why I don't trust blog posts and nutitionists that say that seed oils are healthy. You will never convince me that an industrial product that humans would have never eaten in nature is healthy. You give artificial food to any animal and they get sick and die, why would it be different eith humans

[@BotDetector-44]

Source: trust me bro, I have a PhD

[@CheerfulNihilism]

@@BotDetector-44 I actually don't have a PhD. I dropped out because I ran out of money and was getting a divorce.

[@cWjkL8ysxOkrH66]

@@BotDetector-44 can you read?

[@cashmoneychanel1209]

@@CheerfulNihilismgo back babe!!!

[@quartknee22]

Artificial sugars make me violently ill - all of them. And the amount of people who have criticized me, called me a liar and promoting "diet culture" has made me question my own reality so many times. Sugar addiction is real and I'm furious to hear that dieticians are paid off by Big Food. I always knew these insta/tik tok dieticians were suspicious....

[@ruminationstation4200]

Artificial sugars are a huge part of diet culture since most are low/no calorie. Preferring real sugar is literally the opposite of diet culture. I swear some people just throw out words these days with no sense about their meaning

[@quartknee22]

@ruminationstation4200 anything that criticizes food is "diet culture" is what I'm coming to understand

[@cautiousgalaxy4613]

They give me the worst headaches. since I was a teen I haven't been able to drink diet sodas

[@shimmershine6902]

I’m the opposite. Full sugar drinks make me feel so “sticky” and makes my teeth feel like they’re dissolving. Usually if I have to I dilute pop with sparkling water and I dilute juice with water. Sugar free drinks honestly taste much better to me 💀

[@kbird6208]

Artificial sugars make me sick too. Especially the old school ones. And they all taste so wrong to me. It's frustrating how hard it is to find lower sugar versions of things without stevia. If we just put less sugar in things then we wouldn't need all the stevia.

[@miaomiaou_]

I’m really wary of these social media dieticians. I’ve seen so many of them preaching how intuitive eating is for everyone, like they don’t have an extensive knowledge of nutrition, and that anyone can just pick it up in their 6 week online course. “Intuitive eating” becomes a mystical destination, when all it really seems to mean is: I have counted my calories/macros for so long that I have an intrinsic sense of how much food to eat to maintain my thinness forever, basically.

[@KillerMZE]

"possibly carcinogenic" means there is little to no actual scientific evidence. After that comes "probably carcinogenic", which is when there are some studies, and "carcinogenic" when there's enough data to prove it

[@ZephyrinSkies]

I'd still be suspicious of possibly carcinogenic. Research is funded by food companies that actively try to downplay negativity to sell product. Lack of evidence could also be from lack of incentive to find it.

[@Ellis-Tor]

im so glad you are talking about this, thanks you for covering these topics fairly... for years i did what "registered dieticians" told me to do and it wasnt until i took matters into my own hands and started following "unapproved" approach to food that my health improved dramatically and i lost a ton of weight

[@nicosiadelaisla]

I think the villainization of “Almond moms” or “crunchiness” is somehow related. Obviously, extremes on any side are unhealthy- but it seems to me that you are critiqued more for eliminating ultra-processed foods from your diet than for eating them in excess. That’s my perception of ig dieticians anyways 😂.

[@SimBits]

Eh I don't really feel like they're related since most crunchy mom slander comes from kids who grew up getting EDs from their parents restricting them, not dietitians who shill junk food products

[@Waryfaerie]

Heavy disagree. Almond moms aren’t just healthy women, the whole thing is that they damage their children’s perception of their own body and food. Almond moms cause insecurity and ED in their children. That’s what an almond mom is, not just a health parent

[@nicosiadelaisla]

There is a niche of videos that go beyond that though. Balance is essential, it doesn’t have to be a restrictive ED OR junk centric diet.

[@miaomiaou_]

@@SimBitsI think it’s more of a reaction to the villianization tbh. These new dietitians have to prove they’re not like those other kale chip-loving, crystal light-huffing dietitians. So they’ll make a polarizing video saying a cookie and an avocado are the same bc they have the same amount of calories. This get them more views too.

[@LTDLetsPlays]

Crunch supremacist here Crunchiness is better than any other texture in existence and it will remain as such those who question it will be referred as sinners

[@sierrasnode]

That clip about the Easter candy made me cringe, because I used to believe that. I followed advice from online dietitians that if I just allowed myself to have enough of my cravings, I would eventually stop craving it and be able to eat more balanced. Trouble is, I have ADHD. My brain goes crazy on the dopamine that sugary and processed food creates. I was never satisfied, and I gained 55 lbs. Now that I’ve actually set up some boundaries for myself, I find I have WAY more control around food and sweets. Also down 20 lbs so far 🎉

[@LowBMIVoice]

Same, girl!!! Also, keep up the great work!!! 💪

[@ginameza3312]

I'm a dietitian and i absolutely hated when my teachers at uni teached us that "there is no bad foods", i personally never believed that BS, i mean we are literally watching people die from bad diets... I love your videos Kiana!! i watch your videos for inspiration to write my thesis. love from mx

[@nope19568]

bad diet isnt bad food tho, dose makes the poison, if you get a burger every year on your birthday and no other day youre probably not really gonna feel any effects from that at all, but if you eat burgers for lunch and dinner everyday because its easier to get then yeah thats gonna be a problem, the burger never changed tho

[@somrigost]

Thank you for this video! The food industry just seems to dodge all the blame for the obesity epidemic. It's not something that can be solved without adressing what they do.

[@andieallison6792]

It's not all the "food industry" though.

[@BunBun2626]

Honestly the only way things will change if we start sending CEO's to jail with no bail.... these people need to be held accountable for their actions.

[@QUEERVEEART]

i know there are bad foods. i have sensory and nausea issues and sometimes have to eat anything i can. i dont shame myself for eating bad food but i dont lie to myself about the lack of health benefits either. i think its a useful skill i have

[@xXGracieGhostXx]

I literally watched an Abbey Sharp video that was talking about the myths about potatoes being healthy that was literally sponsored by a french fry company! Like, there is nothing wrong about potatoes if prepared in a healthy way, but I have been taught that the most trustworthy studies/sources of information to use are the ones that are non-biased, and having a video about how potatoes are healthy sponsored by a french fry brand seems just a bit biased to me, but idk...

[@vodkalatke]

It was the Canadian Sugar Lobby who was funding Canadian dieticians...I literally feel like she's just defending her friends lol

[@Gizelle-cs6ix]

I was scrolling looking for a comment that mentioned her lol.

[@mhmtakeyatime9000]

Of course Abby Sharpe is sponsored by a big food company! I always had the feeling..

[@erinmeadows14]

⁠@@mhmtakeyatime9000I am a long time subscriber of hers (though more of a lurker now) and I am pretty sure I recall her have a dairy industry sponsorship years ago. Edit this to add: I just watched her video on this article. She does talk about some of her past industry partnerships (ones she regrets, videos removed, etc) and current industry partnerships (dairy included). It was a pretty good video tbh.

[@jubilibw2366]

Potatoes are very healthy

[@anak6707]

As much as your videos are always very interesting and the quality of your videos is top notch, I can't help but to let my focus shift on your sweet little dog, sleeping without any care in the world. So cute 🥰 Keep up with the amazing work Kiana☺

[@NO1knowsy333]

Such a sweet bean 🥰 I love her non judgemental science based approach to such sensitive topics. And the pup is a most comforting presence.

[@rachel1362]

Omg I was just thinking this!! She was so cute finding her perfect napping position lol

[@helen.faunway]

Before I got properly medicated for my ADHD, I used to NEVER cook for myself: exclusively lived off shitty microwave meals, lunchmeat sandwiches, and grubhub. For the last month and a half, though, I've been avoiding processed, greasy, high sugar content, fast food, junk, and soda; also started easing up on my consumption of empty carbs, and am now cooking almost every meal or getting freshly made stuff at a nearby deli. And wow I really do feel such a huge difference: it was clear that my prior eating choices were genuinely making my mental illness, chronic fatigue, and brain fog 10x worse. There really needs to be more widespread education about how toxic convenience food is, and it's so gross that the people who are supposed to be responsible for doing that are doing the opposite.

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

To be fair, the WHO isn't exactly a beacon of trust an honesty when it comes to health. They do things based off their biggest donors wishes

[@annastone9748]

I wonder if the prevalence of ED history among dietitians is part of why so many of them seem to focus more on the “no bad foods” message. There is a section of the population that does need to hear that message, but it’s not the majority.

[@fran791]

I feel like people who used to have eating disorders becoming dieticians is just another way for them to obsess on what they eat

[@marysenum5621]

When she explained the one cookie thing being either a singular great experience or an accidental trigger to all plans out the window and you’re now gonna binge? I wish I wasn’t the latter..

[@james6028]

ive never related to anything so hard lol

[@kbird6208]

I'm definitely better off with no treat than just one treat.

[@marysenum5621]

@@kbird6208 I would definitely say I’m the exact same way

[@flameguy3416]

The food industry also creates fat acceptance campaigns unsurprisingly.

[@ChlorineHeart]

Yeah seeing dietitions like abbey sharp go in on wellness influencers and never on major brands like coca cola is very suspect to me.

[@Raqueltl2017]

Im a dietitian from Brazil, here you have to subscribe to the regional council of nutrition and to do that is agreeing with the code of ethics. The code of ethics forbids dietitians of publicly supporting food products. You can even lose your license. Everytime I see how the lack of regulation in public health care in the us kills people unnecessarily and it ends up making it the world's problem.

[@nataliecaldwell9228]

Your videos are just brilliant! Thank you for the time you put into them, they have seriously helped me take back control of my binge eating

[@KianaDocherty]

thats so epic, thank you very much and congratulations!! 💪💪

[@nataliecaldwell9228]

@@KianaDocherty Tysm! 🥰

[@patataeve]

This is one of your most urgent videos, with very important info. It shouldn't be a hot take, it's common sense!!! Thank you Kiana!!!!

[@notlistening89]

So from my understanding, WHO classifying aspartame to possibly causing cancer is a bit clickbait'y though. Or media outlets made their findings into clickbait. So basically you need to drink ridiculous amounts of diet soda per day for it to cause cancer. Like hundreds of cans. Obviously dieticians shouldn't get paid by coke to say that coke zero is good for you. But aspartame isn't as bad as just reading headlines made it out to be.

[@thecatherd]

In fairness that's the fault of news outlets grabbing for headlines. I think WHO's statement is fair.

[@spreadyourwingsandflybutte768]

Exactly. The risk of cancer is for folks that drink over 12 cans a day!! 1-2 a day won’t kill you

[@caligvla3786]

It’s 9-14 cans (assuming a can has 200-300mg of aspartame) per day for a person weighing 70kgs assuming no other aspartame products are consumed along side it. Safe limits should not exceed 40mg per kg of body weight. Most people won’t exceed it, but it’s definitely possible if you’re eating “diet” foods and smashing no sugar drinks. It’s admitted that there still isn’t enough research into the product. That makes me weary. Although it breaks down into fairly basic and common compounds in your body, there may still be questions about addiction, endocrine function, etc.

[@JP-ve7or]

Honestly, that sounds sensible. I have no idea what the real truth is on aspartame, but a few years ago I figured, why consume it? I don't need it. I used to drink diet soda all the time and now that I'm not used to it anymore, it tastes so, so gross to me. I don't miss it at all.

[@elizabeth184]

Imagine telling an alcoholic "if you restrict yourself you're just more likely to binge when you get hold of some - it's ok to drink whenever you want in the run up to Easter!". No. If you don't want to have tempting foods in the house, just don't. Having free access won't make you less likely to over indulge, it'd probably be the opposite.

[@avatar_korrasami]

I like the “no good or bad foods” thing because it helps me to avoid dichotomous thinking. I found this very helpful, as I used to slip up and then give up on my diet for the day and binge. Whereas now I don’t view foods as good or bad and so long as I keep my protein high and my calories within a deficit I eat what I want

[@fran791]

Instead of thinking about "there are no bad foods" you should think: foods are on a specrum of best to worst. Fish, meat, animal fats, fruits and vegetables are the best, then comes everything else that will make you gradually more malnourished because they are not nutrient dense like rice, pasta, bread and then junk food

[@avatar_korrasami]

@@fran791 I don’t even do that. Because sometimes I will eat something that would definitely go in the “worst category” but it’s the best thing for me to include it in my diet even though it’s not the optimal choice. Psychologically I need treats in my diet to stick to it. I have lost 35kg no surgery so what I’m doing working for me :)

[@fran791]

@@avatar_korrasami yea that's good, the most important part is that the main things you eat are the most nutritious because your body needs that, especially animal proteins and fats which are essential for hormone balance

[@rachaelnugent]

Ok, I've been in hospitals with Burger King franchises INSIDE the actual facility. Compared to that, a diabetes specialist saying you're better of with Diet Coke than regular Coke, I actually have no problem

[@fran791]

Only in the usa you will se horrendous things like that

[@Lilas.Duveteux]

Also, part of big food industry, is to try and overide the disgust reflex of individuals. Like, when I worked at a convenience store, the smell of the fizzy drinks. The station needs at least a few cleanings per shift, and it's only possible if the store is fully staffed. Not every establishment would have the necessary staff to keep this part of the store clean and safe. Not to mention, when the buttons are over-used, they can create safety hazard for both customer and employees since the overuse can lead to gas leaks and monoxyde issues. And that is not even talking about the production chain and the dodgy practices that can occure there. With the slushies...Just the smell of the powders. I wonder how can anyone stomach it, because I found the smell of them absolutely nauseating in all it's sickly sweet glory. The powder is so fine, you can breath it, and is actually more repulsive to me than cleaning the toilets. Also, all food is good food kind of depends on the situation. If someone for example, does outdoors work in Antartica, than yes, chocolate bars and deep fried sweets would be quite a healthy food because of the high amounts of calories necessary to stave off hypothermia. And yes, despite needing high calories, it's preferable if those high calories don't contain cancerogenes and have more nutrition to them than plain calories. It doesn't mean it's a healthy food for Bob who works an office job. Many individuals, including the Russian news, would recommand homemade broths as a drinkable snack to deal with low temperatures as opposed to sweets. Broth are highly bioavailable and nutricious, containing fat, proteine and collagen, all of which are good when dealing with cold tempertures. Another thing, is that many eating disorders have a high coomorbidity with chronic pain, either because they were prescribed diets when they took pain killers (some of them do cause weight gain) and would continue eating as if they are still on medication, have this pain because of the damage over eating or under eating had caused their body or because the chronic pain either made them unable to properly digest food due to stress or if they started overeating as a way to cope with the pain, gustative pleasure allowing to take a break from it. That beign said, I don't think advertising hard-to-digest ultra-processed food to someone who already have digestion-related issues to be a very ethical marketing strategy. Like, someone who have to think, before starting each meal: "will this thing make me puke ?", and then market things to those people that would surely upset a fragilized stomach would probably create a negative feed-back loop. So, helping with restrictive eating disorder yes, but up to a point, as they are extremely rare, although it can be a factor. Creating positive association with food would probably help. 52% of individuals with an eating disorder have a history of trauma, often characterized by exessive eating.

[@XxEmmJayxX]

I’m in school to become a Registered Dietitian. Unfortunately, we learn that we cannot use the words “good” or “bad” when describing foods to prevent eating disorders. Also, cravings do get worse when we tell ourselves that we “can’t” have something. It’s better to tell ourselves “I choose not to eat this.” But I do think that INFLUENCER Dietitians are focusing wayyyy to much on eating disorders instead of physical health. In my opinion, we need to focus on raising children to have healthy eating habits, not force them to eat everything on their plate when they aren’t hungry, and to provide whole meals with vegetables early in their development. Unfortunately, most people that can afford or have time to eat whole foods work less and get paid more. We are just so deep into the issues caused by capitalism and the food industry that it’s really difficult to tell people to stop eating what they like. I am also incredibly disappointed in these RDs who allow themselves to sell out. I’m glad you made this video Kiana!

[@fran791]

I never understood why americans have this idea that healthy food takes a long time to make. That's a false and harmful belief. You literally just need to slap a couple sausages, burgers or steaks on a pan and you need to cook rice and cut some veggies

[@daonedaonly942]

​@@fran791that IS a lot of work for overworked and underpaid Americans.

[@fran791]

@@daonedaonly942 you can do that in literally half an hour, same time it takes to go to a drive through, and a fraction of the time that the average american spends on tiktok

[@chickensalad3535]

@@fran791I cook healthy, and I admit that it’s a lot of work.

[@fran791]

@@chickensalad3535 what do you usually cook?

[@anastasiacoral6812]

I love all of your videos. You are always so eloquent and informative. I love how you addressed the “all food is good food” can be helpful for small groups of people that suffer with EDs, but not for the majority. It honestly frightens me how much we are surrounded by food that is barely food, with little to no nutritious value. You’ve opened up a discussion for a really important topic here and I hope this gets debated a lot more pushing our governments and healthcare systems to hopefully make some amendments.

[@Seevawonderloaf]

Thank you for covering this! These people are ruining the name of their own industry. It is the SAME reason why there is an all time low trust in institutions be it the CDC or WHO. This is a public health issue and is a major problem. Reminds me of when the cigarette industry had a decade long PR campaign against those who claimed that cigs cause cancer (which they do obv) using scientists. Edit: I wrote this before I heard the part where you commented on this. This is great!!

[@missraincanyon]

I see a Kiana video notification, I always instantly click

[@SarahSkinnyJeans]

Same here omg

[@thesprinklebox4841]

Same!

[@steelfalconx2000]

Layne Norton did a great analysis of the aspartame situation, and yeah there's not really a reason to panic. But the deeper issue is the bribing of the influencers.

[@OrkarIsberEstar]

europe suggests no more than 50 gramms of sugar a day are healthy. That seems a reasonable ammount and is save to eat. Problem is in the US, most joghurts already have more than that. Jelly toast - already surpassed the limit. And we arent even talking actual sweets that have 100+ grams in a single serving. And the ridiculous part is...WHY. Europes toast has 1/5 the sugar of US american toast. Why is there so much sugar in toast oO

[@Dogy0909]

One thing that pisses me off with US labeling standards is that they are required to put the daily value percentage of nutrients in a food on the label, but if the sugar is “natural” (like fruit) they can put 0% “added sugars”. I was sick recently and could only eat bottled smoothies, and they would have 25g of sugar per bottle but say 0% of your recommended DV of sugar!!

[@baileymadison9019]

In school for my RD license and every class is like “please for the love of god stop eating fast food/processed food,” so these people are talking out of their ass.

[@KianaDocherty]

This gives me hope lol

[@rachel3760]

Those influencer dietitians have some nerve saying the WHO should spend more time increasing access to whole foods while being paid by the corporations that are spending millions creating and exacerbating food deserts. Also your corgi looks so cute and comfortable in the background!

[@jd5368]

They should start by calling out those in their own profession (Christy Harrison for example) who outright oppose food activism and increasing access to fresh fruits and vegetables because it "food shames poor people." Really. She said this on her podcast Food Psych, I can't even make this stuff up. Would LOVE to see Kiana do a deep dive on her, because unlike a lot of the scammers on TikTok, people rarely seem to call her out.

[@janebrown7231]

My brother-in-law progressively became...crazy. His mood swings were horrific, he was completely irrational, he was on the edge of being diagnosed psychotic, he got fired for abusing customers, my two nieces became frightened of him, he was close to being divorced. Physically, he felt just slightly ill all the time. Headachy, a bit hyper, tired muscles... just non-specifically unwell. He couldn't see how he was behaving. On a long shot, my sister got him to suspend his rising aspartame habit. Instantly, he was improving, and within a few days he seemed nearly his normal self. And he was only a moderate aspartame user. ASPARTAME TOXICITY IS A THING. And he is certainly not the only sufferer who didn't believe it was possible and resisted breaking his obsessive habit. Check out aspartame toxicity for other cases.

[@aurora3861]

true i recently had a sip of diet coke 😎 Next thing i know is i wake up in the hospital. 😨 my roommate later told me that i entered a state of psychosis and jumped from the balcony 💀💀💀 Now im only allowed to drink water with a sprinkle of salt 😢😥😭

[@yawninghamster7238]

​@@aurora3861​if Equate isn't paying you for comments like this, why bother?

[@fran791]

Bitch the NEUROLOGICAL TOXICITY

[@serberus5233]

I had aspartame once and now I'm dead.

[@janebrown7231]

@serberus5233 Did you then eat a bag of sugar and come back to life? If so, I'm going to do the same.

[@Oonagh72]

I wonder if this new wave fat acceptance was funded by “big sugar”. Even though grass roots efforts do a lot they usually can’t go far without a big boost of money.

[@promisemochi]

also i want to add how this has effected my own weight journey. i was on a healthy track. growing up i ate very well and was a healthy weight until my mid-20s. i am very short and was eating about 1000 calories a day and was 120lbs. i worked out too. but then i was told from so many people that that was way too little calories, and i needed to eat almost 2000. so i upped it and gained almost 70lbs. i've done calorie calculators online and have found that i need only about 1200 calories and anything over that puts me in the "gain" category. but so many people harp on how bad that is and how i need to eat more. i'm trying to learn to listen to my body and it's own needs now. because every one is different. me, being 5'1 and with a slow metabolism, i should not be eating like someone 5'5+ with a faster metabolism.

[@devdawg22]

The FDA is this on a large scale. The FDA "regulates" who funds it. You can't regulate who pays you

[@edityourlife1970]

I can't help but blame HAES-"informed" care being taught in dietian programs.

[@jonhillman871]

this is kiara's best video. i was aware that the junk food industry wielded a lot of power and influence but i didn't realize they had taken so much control of the narrative coming from nutritionists. i really liked the graphics of the "tobacco playbook." i take health, fitness, and nutrition very seriously so for me this is the most important thing i've learned in a long time.

[@qualifiedarmchaircritic]

13:22 that is such a good point, Kiana. I think part of the issue here is that many of the people who 1) become dieticians, and 2) go on social media both often come from a background of eating disorder and thus see "no food is inherently bad" as the most important message (because that was what THEY needed to learn, not what the general population needs to learn) and because this message is what their typically young and insecure audience wants to hear (it's comfortable, doesn't get you to change habits, it seems wholesome, etc).

[@crabgal]

I’m writing a research paper for my comm class about influencer advertising, and I’m so glad this video popped up for me. It’s a phenomenon I’ve noticed too, and something I mention specifically in my topic paragraph. Food advertising is downright predatory, especially combined with social media

[@TheLeraLush]

This reminds me of the got milk campaigns in my childhood. So glad we’ve moved on from that because a huge percent of the population can’t even process lactose and milk is high in saturated fat.

[@janisir4529]

What population? If you were to say you are lactose intolerant people will treat you like you have a severe allergy.

[@msdouglas12100]

Animal fat is better for you, also lactose free milk exist.

[@janisir4529]

@@msdouglas12100 But you weren't supposed to tell that, how will they sell ultra processed cheap plant based garbage on the same price as real milk?

[@msdouglas12100]

@@janisir4529 haha I get so annoyed with all that nut water! I used to drink almond milk because I'm lactose sensitive but I feel waaaay better just drinking whole lactose free milk.

[@janisir4529]

@@msdouglas12100 Can't relate, I don't think I ever tried either of those, nor do I particularly like drinking milk...

[@helenlucka]

It's sad that people like them endorse these brands...

[@ramalabanieh5078]

As a junior in highschool who is planning on becoming a dietician, this is revolting.

[@watamatafoyu]

So when do our public representatives step in and say "You can't lie to people about the health of your food" whether that's through advertising or influencers or whatever.

[@pinkdarkman]

They step in when people are smart enough to stop voting Republican.... so never lol.

[@vulpesinculta7074]

I already read "Ultra processed people" from Chris van Tulleken. This is insane. I know something about how this shit could be dangerous and harmfull but truth is much much worst.

[@imjstar]

Same. I am going to see his talk live early next month. It is despicable what the food industry has done to us and has just being allowed to continue to do

[@magicknight8412]

Then he goes on to talk about his daughter eating coco pops every day for breakfast! Problem with listing all these bad things is that you end up thinking you have to avoid almost everything you eat.

[@tristantries9211]

The short answer is no. I never trust skinny dieticians who push people to eat junk. I think at best it shows a complete naivety about the struggles overweight people have with these highly processed highly palatable nutritionally void foods- that most cant just eat a little junk in moderation and be fine- or at worse a complete disreguard for the safety of their viewer base for money. I am finding a lot of foods trigger me into binging. I really do do better abstaining. Thats not saying no one can do moderation but if you have an addictive personality and you struggle i wouldnt say "just eat the oreos you'll be fine!" Is good advice. Im sorry I can't eat only 3 oreas- its half the pack or the whole pack in one sitting or none. I dont feel satisfied if i stop at 3 and ive tried it. Just leaves me obsessing over the rest of the pack till i pull it back out.

[@Keykhosrau]

It should be noted that the WHO's classification on Aspartame is not really that bad, and is somewhat misleading. Being in that group means having evidence that the substance is circumstantial in humans and animals. It's in the same group as Aloe Vera, but is still below red meat consumption, drinking dangerously hot drinks, and working at night (group 2a). Group 1 (known carcinogens) include air pollution, smoking, alcohol, processed meats, indoor coal fires etc. It is fair to say that Aspartame is healthier than all of these cancer wise.

[@StraightEdgeJunkie]

It’s in the same group as caffeic acid. Is anyone gonna stop drinking coffee because of that?

[@kaylee8451]

I’m trying to become a dietician, because health is my passion, and I want my fellow countrymen to be healthy too. To see these dietitians falling to money and greed is just horrible and sad, I’m so disappointed. Don’t become a dietician if your goal isn’t to HELP people 😢

[@m_butterfly2]

I say this as someone who regularly consumes aspartame: it makes no sense to me that aspartame would have zero significant effects on a human body/brain, considering that it is partially made of an essential amino acid that is a precursor to various neurotransmitters. There is apparently an isomer that is being marketed as a pain reliever and antidepressant.

[@yana33612]

my thoughts about intuitive eating or at least the “no bad foods” stuff is for a specific group of people like me who struggle a lot with restriction & black and white thinking. for the longest time, i would absolutely hate myself after eating something “bad” or “unhealthy” like i’m talking immense amount of shame and guilt. that in itself was way more unhealthy than indulging once in a while and it led to me binging. once i realised that all foods could fit into my diet i could easily regulate the amount of junk food i ate simply because it didn’t feel so out of reach. i guess my experience is very specific to me and also i grew up in asia and live in europe now so my experience will be different from someone in north america. i have better access to nutritious, good food and was raised eating food that was good for me so it was pretty easy to revert to that once i stopped feeling so much shame around junk food.

[@ballistachicken]

I appreciate you giving the big food companies their due time in this video. While the dieticians and doctors should be held accountable for giving false information or withholding important information, ultimately the food companies need to be held the most accountable. It's literally part of the scheme, being able to defer blame to the dieticians when the problems stem from the food companies themselves. It gets flack off of their backs when they deserve it the most.

[@stephanietaylor142]

I stopped eating candy and cakes and such for a couple of years. Tried to eat a Snickers the other day and almost vomited. I make sweets at home using better ingredients like honey and real chocolate and now the store bought stuff is just so nasty. You can taste the fake gross everything

[@erikblue7842]

For me, the more I research UPF, the less cravings I have. The more I think about some of these processes and the economies behind them, the more digusted I get by the food itself

[@jameslongstaff2762]

Regarding the WHO ruling on aspartame, the WHO put aspartame in the same cancer risk level as "using a smart phone" and a lower risk category compared to red meat and alcohol. Unless you're cutting out red meat, smart phones, and alcohol from your life, it doesn't make sense to cut out aspartame. Aspartame is at the same level of risk (if not less) than those other items.

[@jameslongstaff2762]

I do agree with your reporting on how promotions from big food companies is concerning.

[@eberechichimezie3889]

At this point, it's Pavlov's response. I saw the video and my mood instantly lifted :D

[@gdonut9902]

Thank you! For years now everywhere I look it’s like seeing people drink the koolaid lol literally and that seems to be the only message from most health creators that the first rule is to eat bad food and celebrate eating something our bodies don’t need.