Eating the False Morel Mushroom, Poisonous Gyromitra caroliniana.... "BIG REDS!"

[@johnnyfish6051]

Let's go! Eat them or Not? Everyone comment. Help everyone decide.Whats your opinion.

[@brutusmaximus5380]

The toxin is Gyromitrin. It is water soluble, and has a boiling point of 289 °F. The people who survived eating it prepare the false morels in a bath of salt water before frying it in oil or lard at a temp of 350 °F. The salt in the water will leech the toxin Gyromitrin out of the false morel and slightly dehydrate them. Then you can put them in a bath of fresh water with no salt to rehydrate the mushroom tissue. You can also dehydrate them afterwards to draw the remaining toxins out further. But the salt bath seems to be enough for pre-cooking preparation as long as the cooking temperature is above 300 degrees Fahrenheit. At a temperature of 289 °F, the remaining toxin will start to fry out of the mushroom tissue and into the air. Real morels have a small amount of this toxin too and is the reason one should not eat morels raw or one will get diarheah, nausea, and vomiting in about 12 hours. With this information, we suggest one prepare your mushrooms in large batches. Make the water as salty as the sea to leech out the toxins. You can then boil them in fresh water if you want to be extra safe. Although, boiling at boiling point of water at 212 °F isn't sufficient to gas out the toxin. Dehydrating the mushrooms for 3 days may help. But these step after the salt bath do not appear to be necessary. After the salt bath, you can fry them up at a temp of 350 °F.

[@chrismurdock6049]

We used to eat em chopped up in our eggs. Like you do the deer horn, antler fall mushrooms. Your definitely right about finding them before the morels pop. As a youngster, I'd always find the reds first in Central Missouri. Anyways, another great video brother. Keep em coming. And great info as always. Your always right on the money when it comes to any mushroom you talk about. Thanks again.

[@johnnyfish6051]

Thank you! But...you use to eat them? If you could, why did you stop? Legs gave out, found out they might harm you? Why? Please let us know. Thanks Chris.

[@chrismurdock6049]

@johnnyfish6051 just never did really like eating em. They're a little too mushrooms tasting for me,lol. I only eat about 10 to 29 morels each season. I just really really like finding em,lol. Going to pick a few right now by my garden thar popped in the frost 2 night ago.

[@johnnyfish6051]

@@chrismurdock6049 cool. Appreciate you sharing. Thanks

[@tatorkator9901]

lol i found a nice sized one and watched this while cooking them. just battered in flour and deep fried. ive eaten them since i was little, they are my favorite ones, you just cant eat too many lol.

[@johnnyfish6051]

Idk becareful. So tell us, how many years have you ate them and what region do you live in. Thanks.

[@danielreed2264]

Ive ate them before and was fine.. watching 30 plus grow as we speak

[@johnnyfish6051]

Cool, they can grow in bunches. One good thing about them is that one or two can make a meal. Please, if you can, tell us what region you live in? It seems people's opinions vary per state. Im trying to compile an understanding. Thanks

[@danielreed2264]

I'm Lincoln county Missouri. They are a patch of 30 around a sugar maple stump where I work. I've been watching them 10 days and they're slowly growing. I've also found about 100 morels not near as many as you have

[@johnnyfish6051]

@danielreed2264 MO. Got it. Thanks. Seems Missouri is chiming in with a few people who eat them. I'm from Kansas and as young boy we knew them as Missouri Reds. Similarly, we called blue cats, Mississippi Whites. Thanks Daniel.

[@danielreed2264]

Thanks Johnny liked and subscribed...

[@johnnyfish6051]

@danielreed2264 means a ton, thanks

[@ShlisaShell]

We get them big like that up here in Michigan. Gyromitra korfii. I've done a few vids on em. Found one bigger than a brain and stuck my foot in it lol.

[@johnnyfish6051]

Well....theirs know way it was bigger than MY brain...HA! .

[@ShlisaShell]

@@johnnyfish6051 LOL

[@joanofirk6216]

Just bought a piece of land in North Michigan. Yesterday, I found several clusters of the big reds. I had never seen them before and not sure if I'm going to eat them. Good to know they're here, though. Last year, there were several "magic mushrooms growing here. Michigan is incredible!

[@ShlisaShell]

@@joanofirk6216 😄

[@ralphnolan3187]

Check yourself for black mold under your armpits

[@johnnyfish6051]

Ok, and why?

[@ChrisMeek-gg5de]

I'll stick to morels in the spring and chicken of the woods later in the year, lol.

[@johnnyfish6051]

Cool! Cause you don't want to risk eating them, don't like the taste? Please respond Why? Thanks so much Chris,

[@ChrisMeek-gg5de]

@@johnnyfish6051 ahh. I'm not about to risk it. Same with psilocybin. May be fun, just not my kinda fun. Hah!

[@johnnyfish6051]

@ChrisMeek-gg5de I see . Yeah I'm kinda the same. Usually, if big Reds are up, morels are up . So I just eat the morels. See ya.

[@ShlisaShell]

I don't chance eating them because of my kidney transplant. I have too much to loose.

[@johnnyfish6051]

So, had you eaten them before the kidney issues? Thanks

[@ShlisaShell]

@@johnnyfish6051 nope. My kidney disease began young. It runs in my family on my Cherokee side. Diagnosed at 16 and began dialysis at 26. Got my kidney 15 years later.

[@johnnyfish6051]

@@ShlisaShell I see. Thanks

[@johnnyfish6051]

Good luck, see ya!

[@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786]

The problem with the toxic variety is you don’t get sick right away. So you don’t realize what’s happening. But the chemical stores up in your kidneys. Once you reached the limit, it’s adios and there is no recourse.😢 I’ve heard it’s a very hard, miserable death also. So you’ve been warned

[@johnnyfish6051]

Yeah, long-term consumption. Like sugar, red meat, caffeine, cellular wave, carbon monoxide, radon, and sushi. We are doomed! Becareful. Great info! Thank you.

[@brutusmaximus5380]

It's a cultural thing. Some salad eating cultures (like the f-ing vegans) eat their mushrooms raw and that's why they get sick. But we cook our food for a reason. Raw food contains parasites and toxins. Heat destroys parasites and most toxins even in pokeweed. And that's another southern favorite. You'll survive. Because the south invented deep frying in LARD. We didn't use plant based oils and polyunsaturated fats for frying. We the people survived on animal fat. Even the Native American Indians survived on pemmican and that is stuff is surrounded in rendered animal fat. It's the unsaturated "heart healthy" vegetable seed oils that become toxic in high heat and form plastics or cancer causing free radicals. People did not get heart disease until we started fluoridating/chlorinating our water. This was also about the same time the fast food industry started using cottonseed oil in their deep fryers at the suggestions of the medical establishment. Here's the deal. Even if you eat a regular morel raw, you can get sick. Just like cooking the pokeweed leaves, Kill the toxins with high heat. We fry our morels in oil at high heat till their golden brown. Then we add the butter for flavor. Don't fry your mushrooms in regular unclarified butter because the milk solids burn and you wont destroy the toxins at the temp butter burns. You can get away with Clarified butter {aka Ghee} because it can handle higher heat and you are less temped to eat the mushrooms undercooked.

[@johnnyfish6051]

@brutusmaximus5380 Cool! Spot on frying shrooms in oil first. So Brutus you ever ate the Gyromitra?.

[@brutusmaximus5380]

It's a cultural thing. Some salad eating cultures (like the f-ing vegans) eat their mushrooms raw and that's why they get sick. But we cook our food for a reason. Raw food contains parasites and toxins. Heat destroys parasites and most toxins even in pokeweed. And that's another southern favorite. You'll survive. Because the south invented deep frying in LARD. We didn't use plant based oils and polyunsaturated fats for frying. We the people survived on animal fat. Even the Native American Indians survived on pemmican and that is stuff is surrounded in rendered animal fat. It's the unsaturated "heart healthy" vegetable seed oils that become toxic in high heat and form plastics or cancer causing free radicals. People did not get heart disease until we started fluoridating/chlorinating our water. This was also about the same time the fast food industry started using cottonseed oil in their deep fryers at the suggestions of the medical establishment. Here's the deal. Even if you eat a regular morel raw, you can get sick. Just like cooking the pokeweed leaves, Kill the toxins with high heat. We fry our morels in oil at high heat till their golden brown. Then we add the butter for flavor. Don't fry your mushrooms in regular unclarified butter because the milk solids burn and you wont destroy the toxins at the temp butter burns. You can get away with Clarified butter {aka Ghee} because it can handle higher heat and you are less temped to eat the mushrooms undercooked.

[@johnnyfish6051]

Good stuff! You ever eat the Gyromitra?

[@inductor1.77]

If you're going to eat them, why not boil it first? It seems that these must not contain a lot of gyromitra, but boiling them apparently pulls out gyromitra so why not pull out as much as you can.

[@johnnyfish6051]

That sounds like a good idea. I had no idea that could help. Thanks for letting everyone know this. If you could let us know...Have you eaten them before? Do you personally know anyone who has eaten them? Would you eat them? Is there any reference on studies pertaining to boiling them that you can give us ?? Thank you so much.

[@sitindogmas]

not seen those here in W.V., seen and picked some smaller brown colored one but yeah, if i see a big ole red one, ima fry them up. i always try and be a fun guy

[@johnnyfish6051]

Right on , be careful. Thanks for your input.

[@RiverBreezeOutdoors]

Thanks for sharing this.I’ve heard the same thing,that country folks have eaten them forever.I haven’t found false morels but I eat Amanita Jacksonii and it’s delicious.Everyone is afraid of those too.

[@johnnyfish6051]

You're welcome. This topic is so interesting. You're right. Their does seem to be a bit of culture separation on this topic. I'm so glad you mentioned it. I've thought about that many times. Thanks.

[@sitindogmas]

I've eaten the aminitas too but only the big red ones

[@johnnyfish6051]

@sitindogmas theirs not very many things bad for you until you abuse it. Well ...you know what I'm saying. No Mario mushrooms around me. I don't have conifer forests.

[@jakerowe3937]

I ain't never tried them brother I've wanted to but I very rarely find them good video I know next time I do I'll definitely give that stir fry a go sounds tasty to me

[@johnnyfish6051]

The are good. Worth it? Not sure. I have definitely cut way back on how many of them I consume. Becareful! See ya. Thanks

[@redrayman1977]

Hay Johnny we totally enjoyed your video but my friend is in a wheelchair 🦽 and we been trying to find morels in the woods with no luck but your video made feel like I was finding big yellows and Todd And Raymond from Peoria Heights Illinois

[@johnnyfish6051]

Oh wow ! Is the wheel chair able to go in the woods? Thanks

[@northernwildharvest]

Have heard they can be tasty but we avoid harvesting Gyros because we know someone who went blind while commercially processing/drying Gyromitra esculenta. Maybe the G. caroliniana is a different story? Enjoyed the video! How was the flavor?

[@johnnyfish6051]

I would definitely call them a choice. But can you really say that considering the issues??? So do you remember, was the situation you speak of ever publicized. THANKS Phil.

[@bouncerslabrealnature9143]

I don't eat them but I let the people that follow me around find them instead of morels. ⚠️😂 I think the location is the deciding factor here.... Pennsylvania is a dirty state.... lolol 😂

[@johnnyfish6051]

Ha! Don't eat cause of toxins or you've tried them and didn't care for them? Thanks Slabby.

[@bouncerslabrealnature9143]

SHHHH 🤫....We eat them occasionally. 😂

[@johnnyfish6051]

@@bouncerslabrealnature9143 I just eat them because the establishment says not to....you know.

[@mikie958]

Those big reds are the best ones

[@johnnyfish6051]

Alright! So how often and for how long have you eaten them? Thanks

[@wesforker2352]

I have found and eaten tons of them when I was in my teens an early 20s an 30s I quit eating them when did more indepth research on them an didn't find anything about turning to jet fuel lol but long term consumption of them can result in liver and kidney failure basically the same as being an alcoholic for long time but everyone's body reacts different so they are edible and are very delicious but could come at a cost at some point in your life just a decision you have to make on your own 🤷‍♂️

[@johnnyfish6051]

My experience would mirror yours pretty much to the T, tea or tee. What does that mean, anyway? Anyway, thanks so much for your great input. Nowadays, I might eat one per season, sometimes none.

[@wesforker2352]

Weather it matters or not I'm in Indiana an these mushrooms have many different names people call them here my group always called them red morels, but also know them as elephant ears, beefsteak, redriding hoods and devils cabbage an usually found them in same places I would find black morels and halfrees/ peckerheads

[@johnnyfish6051]

Same, except reding hood, you made that up. Ha! Yeah you see half free and conica all called false morels?? And when people call them beefsteak it drives me crazy. A beefsteak literally looks like a bloody piece of meat when fresh. Great subject, thanks! Don't get me started on elephant ear.

[@johnnyfish6051]

Devils Cabbage, that's spot on!

[@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786]

I eat the Korfi and the Brunnea. Probably misspelled but, I do know some in this genre are toxic

[@johnnyfish6051]

Interesting! I've heard the Carolina has less toxin than those two ?? Idk.

[@ldcurran5173]

I have ate them for over fifty years, my favorite

[@johnnyfish6051]

Ok, thanks for your valuable experience and input. Can you say we're your from? Because opinions seem to be a regional thing. THANKS!

[@clay-r15]

In Michigan everyone said these will kill you. In Missouri a few guys i know call them "Beefsteaks" and have been eating them every year. My one friends parents are in their 90's and been eating them they're whole lifes so im pretty sure they're safe. If I come across them again I'm going to try them.

[@johnnyfish6051]

Thanks Clay, yeah this is the same story I hear most of the time. Everyone knows somebody who has eaten them for years. This topic interests me so much. Thanks.

[@gatekeeper3660]

Native here and these are actually good for you. Cook them like morels and to me they are better. Elders have been eating them forever and they are in their late 80s still going strong like jet fighters.

[@johnnyfish6051]

That's awesome info. Yeah, they taste fine. Ha! Jet fighters....full of fuel eh! THANKS