eBay BOSE Wave Music System SKIPPING - Can I FIX it?

In this 'tea break fix' I look at a BOSE Music system AWRCC6 purchased faulty from eBay. It skips when playing a CD. Can it be fixed? Let's find out.
Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things. I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things, so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. Many thanks, Vince.

[@markianclark9645]

The final thoughts made me smile more than the crap disc you use...a feint green light wont keep you awake...I'd like to record where i live for your enjoyment...a "JET" engine outside the flats below in the takeaway...a jet you all ask..wtf are you on about..their extractor fan used to be a 1 foot diameter tube outlet...that was loud enough...then they reduced the pipe to 5 inch or 4...and it's 10x louder...day and night...i could sleep through a hurricane...plus car alarms as it's a car park at back...half a dozen burglar alarms activate regularly...for hours sometimes...loud sirens from ambulances in the high street...and more...the only thing that might keep me awake is no flashing lights and silence...great video as usual mr Vince...a Bose now works fine...if only sir would take my Zeppelin Bowers & Wilkins giant speaker off my hands for spares...please contact me I'm only a few miles away in Barnet

[@_to_dream_or_not_to_dream]

The hell you live in NY?

[@Cautionary_Tale_Harris]

My Mate Vince and Mend It Mark posting at the same time...gonna be a good evening.

[@kb3ayo581]

You can't always assume that the negative terminal will always connect to ground. If you had a product that used negative voltages the positive terminal of the capacitor would go to ground. There may also be designs where neither terminal goes to ground so its best to make notes of each cap or take a picture of the board. You also need to be careful regarding using higher voltage caps when using replacements. Slightly higher is acceptable too high can cause premature failure of a new cap as well.

[@ex90ranger30]

as someone who replaced surface mount caps by the hundreds whenever I was recapping something 15 years ago, the easiest way to remove them is to not unsolder them, but to twist them off the board with some needle nose pliers. the legs of them are designed to break away. then just clean the pads off, apply new solder, and then set the new cap. if you get into a rhythm you can replace a cap every 30 seconds. unless you run into a cap that leaked all over the board and compromised the pad so when you removed the old cap it ripped the pad off with it. but even with doing a repair for that, it still is far easier to just twist the caps off than to try and unsolder them.

[@davendi2009]

I agree twisting is the easiest method.

[@kb3ayo581]

I had heard that before but was always fearful of pulling up a pad especially around via's

[@Thegreat772]

I've pulled up too many pads like that. Guess there a knack to it. I'll play it safe.

[@bazahaza]

I have a pair of tweezers for my Metcal mx-500. Makes rework a breeze for things like this.

[@incandescentwithrage]

What's the standard you're referring to that specifies SMD cap legs are designed to break away?

[@TheDefpom]

Don't assume the 0V side goes to negative, sometimes if there is a negative supply rail, the 0V rail will be the + side of the cap, in this case there is a white line marked on the PCB for the negative side of the cap.

[@MaxStax1]

There was a huge TV ad campaign for those Bose Wave Radios back in the 90's and 2000's here in the U.S. I saw when my neighbor across the street ordered one and it was delivered while they were away, and was left on their porch. The box that it was sent in had BOSE written all over it. I could easily read it from across the street at my house. Fortunately this was before porch pirates really became a big problem.

[@gerrymichaud3851]

I remember when these came out. I saw a big display and demo of them at the Navy PX.

[@SocramOluap2000]

Maybe we should make Vince some kind of "Supreme World Leader", so he could fix humanity

[@ovalwingnut]

Nice thought... SoCram "Or", eliminate GREED and increase EMPATHY. Then it may really be "heaven on earth" 🌱

[@Longplay_Games]

"In this video today we're going to try to fix the american healthcare system. Do not attempt what you see here, I'm not a professional, but I'm going to have a go" LOL 5 hours of him just going "What??" while talking to people explaining how US insurance works.

[@wolf1438]

for that he has not enough caps.

[@Ariannus]

The UD marking on the capacitor means that it's a low impedance model. It is a 47uf and should have a letter after the 47 specifying the voltage, but I can't tell what the rubbed off letter is. You could probably just test the voltage on the cap when it's in use and replace it with the next voltage up.

[@mr.piechipsandbakedbeans7967]

I used to watch your videos about 5 years ago and all of a sudden they've just appeared in my feed again!

[@eg1885]

You missed the entire Rolls Royce series

[@GadgetUK164]

Great job as usual Vince =D Those pesky caps!!! I hate doing a full recap too!

[@I_Evo]

You can get electronics freezer spray if you want to cool down components to test them.

[@621ELECTRONICS]

I honestly like the smaller Bose radios when you get them second hand at a bargain. I've had a few and they worked well. Even had one of the larger double stack looking units. Any Bose videos I did after repairing a radio would get tons of dislikes, some videos with mostly dislikes 😆, some people have a ridiculous hatred for Bose.

[@RWL2012]

👋🏻

[@621ELECTRONICS]

@@RWL2012 Hey hope all has been well! Was wondering if you'd be watching this fix it video since it's a Bose Wave Radio!

[@SilliestSmurfEver]

I don't like Bose because of their behavior about repairs. I have 2 AWRs, one without CD and one with CD and remote, that one behaves like brain damaged. Only solution is send it in, get the board replaced, pay a bunch and ask yourself, what the heck was wrong with it - no answer at all to this - even if you are a professional - you get NOTHING from Bose at all! That sucks!

[@621ELECTRONICS]

@@SilliestSmurfEver Customer service being bad or not so good, and not liking the brand because of that is understandable, but a lot of people have a blind hate for the brand which is a bit different. Granted, it's often a bit expensive compared to other stuff price to performance, but the products themselves aren't too bad, bad customer experience aside. I have never bought new from them, nor have I had them service anything, so buying second hand at a bargain it's been decent stuff.

[@willproctor7301]

Yet again, a Vince upload saves the day. I was watching an hour long video about building a garden pond. My *cough* garden is about the size of a postage stamp and made of concrete. Thank you for saving me :)

[@Mymatevince]

😂

[@wildonemeister]

But, but, but, but! I got all excited when I heard the blue mat was going to be the co-host of this show...

[@Mymatevince]

😂

[@windhoven-nl]

To pinpoint the faulty cap you can also try to cool them using coldspray or heat them up a little. When it is heat related the first I would check is around the heatsink.

[@LOrealHardly]

If I was a CD player I'd skip Daniel O'Donnell, too :D

[@davidryder6017]

Agreed, although at least it wasn't Foster & Allen then it would've imploded.

[@digi3218]

I'm getting deja Vu from this comment

[@justinthomas2458]

Sadder still you recognized who it was😂

[@davidryder6017]

Maybe the artists name and album title on the cd was a useful clue 🤣

[@markianclark9645]

​@@davidryder6017..possibly bad eyesight with the previous commentor...if I had a CD player that played that disc ...I'd replace the machine...is that CD is the only one Vince has in DRM free public domain music...surely there's some classical music discs that won't trigger KZbins demonetizing threats...any JS Bach should do...please

[@beautifulsmall]

Impressive fix, those smd electrolytics are tough to remove without ripping the pads off. The curved tip iron is a great tool. Great vid as always.

[@tobi8496]

Measuring the ESR of caps in circuit is ok, but you could get a better value as ist actually would be, for example when multiple caps are in parallel and one is bad but the others are good, you would still measure a good ESR because of the caps in parallel

[@YellowJello57]

Great fix. I didn't find it boring at all. It was genius!

[@GerardPinzone]

I can understand how a bad capacitor can show good ESR good in-circuit, but not how a good one can show up bad? If the resistance is high, how could it be lower out of the circuit?

[@YT_Gopnik_Mario]

thats CD player i want for my Room im glad My Mate VINCE fixed up one good job Mate

[@wisher21uk]

Nice fix Vince the negative of the capacitors on the board is marked with a white line 😊

[@Mymatevince]

Well spotted Gary, I didn't notice that!!!!

[@wisher21uk]

@@Mymatevince I only did after a few caps were changed lol

[@jjbigelow]

Nice fix as usual. I was hoping you were going to check the caps out of circuit to see if you could isolate the faulty one. You should write to Daniel O'Donnell, I'm sure he'd give you permission to play his CD on your vids as free publicity, not sure if you'd lose viewers though 😂

[@Rep2369]

Read my mind, seconded! :)

[@nicholas4839]

awesome the video hope you get it fixed

[@alancooper7062]

Hey Vince , I see so many videos where people mention to keep clear of capacitors ! I used to work on multiple electric motors with large Caps , I had a 3 pin plug with just an earth cable wired up , then used to flash both terminals on pos and neg on motor plug it drains cap really quick ,

[@ObsessionoftheMonth]

UD is a voltage code, most likely 16v. specifically the U. so that cap was 47uf 16v

[@venenareligioest410]

Vince, the UD series chip type Aluminium Electrolytic Capacitor is designed for surface mounting on high density PC boards. It has low impedance and anti-solvent feature. 🥸

[@nerdy355]

Vince, there seems to be a small white line next to the ground pad for each capacitor, if that helps.

[@PileOfEmptyTapes]

I see some 05 datecodes, so I assume that's how old this machine is. Presumably it's seen a fair bit of action over the years, hence why so many electrolytics are tired. I'll have to look at my parents' 2001ish Panasonic SA-PM01 min stereo soon as well that handles their PC sound, it seems to have developed a hum so I suspect a tired filter cap or caps. I have my suspects after studying service docs (this thing does not have a standby power supply so the main power supply operates all the time), but they have yet to be confirmed.

[@jhgpsimons]

Hi Vince, thanks for again a great video! Where did you bug that nice assortiment of capacitors? I would like to purchase it myself.

[@legless1956]

got 2 of those things, capacitor problems are well documented, scourge of modern electronics

[@helgew9008]

Supercaps are just like other caps: The voltage rating is the maximum allowable voltage. But the capacity is incredible. This one is rated at 0.33 F, which is 330,000 microfarad.

[@budgetmerch]

I would take a photo to establish the negative rail because... Ha! I was going to make that very point but just as I did you mentioned it...

[@paulie-Gualtieri.]

Brilliant job, I would consider probably taking the case off and respraying black or something more modern than the cream.

[@MikeK-NIreland]

Definitely that Daniel O'Donnell CD that caused all that damage 🤣

[@Mymatevince]

😂

[@mariamarquezf...7904]

Me gusta mucho tus videos ojalá sigas haciendo videos

[@BimbleWithBruce]

Great video. I've been looking at getting a pack of caps like you have and I've been wondering where to get them from. Can you suggest a reasonable store? thanks

[@flashbond]

I new it! I have an old LG LCD tv and it goes continuously off and on if it's freshly turned off. If you wait a couple of hours, it turns on ok. I was sure that it was about the cooling down of the capacitors. But whoever I asked said that capacitors best work in warm state. I was sure this was not the case.

[@richardbrobeck2384]

I have fixed a few of those over the years and I am finding more and more of those capacitors causing issues in electronics I have a Sony watchman Tv that I need to replce some those capacitors in !

[@marcellipovsky8222]

Hi Vince, what will be the next project? Building a bigger shed so you have enough space to store all the fixed stuff? 😏

[@wayne7521]

Hey up Vince. These remind me of a Amdtrad ...... chuck it in bin ... 😂😂😂😂 actually sorry ,bose you made an improvement . The tube you mentioned is a resonance chamber. Or something for its technical term. Watched too many tech ingridients and diy perks ,plus other audio related channels . Also im practicing for going to a classy restraunt . Hey saw a hoom Dorm on ebay fawlty. 😮😮.... I have notnforgotten ,that converstaion ......😂😂😂 Great video.,great tips and wowsers ,dedication. P.s. These bring back memories of 80s in a different fashion , the sharp x bass , twin cassette back to back . WQ-T360E One of my portable radios ,used at work .

[@man3389.]

lets go I am here early Wooooooooooo (Edit: for me it is 3am and I feel that your videos are more important then sleep)

[@mrjsv4935]

Interesting, I was thinking from the grinding noise, that it might be mechanical fault, for example some cracked white plastic gear in the laser moving system. I've got skipping cd player as well from 1992, and have been thinking it may be mechanical failure, but maybe mine has faulty capacitors too. I just don't have esr meter, so finding faulty ones might be difficult. So far haven't taken it apart yet, just taken some looks inside using endoscope, but haven't seen anything obvious. At one time I thought one of the rails, where the laser head moves, looks kind of "rusty", but not sure about it after all, how could it rust as it's kept always indoors.

[@JohnGotti__]

Dude, use Sharpie to mark where negative was :)

[@LegendSpecialist]

I see it as every viewer's favorite album😉

[@wisher21uk]

I have 12 copies of the album, they’re in the garden hanging on bamboo sticks with string allowing them to spin to scare the cats out of the garden, and I play one copy to keep intruders out

[@RD-650]

Very interesting 👍

[@TheDefpom]

Yay crapacitors, my favourite. Surface mount crapacitors... my least favourite 😞

[@ivanburrows6832]

A great channel with always something intresting going on, I do wonder however why you don't just burn a cd of free use tracks from the youtube library, top quality audio for testing and no content matching, is there some rule on youtube that says you can't ?

[@perkulant4629]

Super caps of that size are normally used instead of a clock battery.

[@jasonpoletta1797]

Hey it's my friend Vincent

[@Cautionary_Tale_Harris]

My chum Vinny!

[@chris_hertford]

Have you ever tried 'retro bright' on old beige plastics? Basically covering in peroxide gel and leave in the sun.

[@TheSkaldenmettrunk]

MMV's Capacitor Madness.. I think I would go nuts too if I had to repeat that 50 times...

[@MizuhoChan]

I've never really used an oscilloscope properly, but theoretically, if one of the capacitors was bad, wouldn't it have an unsmooth voltage, which you could measure by powering up the board? Just a thought, please correct me if I'm wrong.

[@bernardhamill5712]

Daniels back 😂

[@paulie-Gualtieri.]

There's Daniel In Blue Jeans next

[@VidelicetMoi]

A point of reference: Never! (with all emphasis) handle Super Capacitors with your bare hands or metal tools. If you do you will short out the capacitors. Also holds true for watch batteries. If you don't believe me do your research. Further, if too much heat is applied to those capacitors [you replaced] they will explode perhaps into your eyes. Again, a bit of research will benefit. If you choose to ignore this last bit of information, wear safety goggles and don't breathe in the vapor.

[@dodgydruid]

You could alleviate the caps monotony by awarding ones children with punishments for fair or fancied misdemeanours... back home late... Hmm 5 caps for you naughty child and you can kick yer heels back and let these machines just fix themselves :P

[@Mymatevince]

😂😂😂

[@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968]

First thing I would have done is to have put a cleaning disk through the drive. Why did you leap onto capacitors before anything else? Edit - What did you do with the foam gasket? it needed to be positioned properly.

[@Mymatevince]

Foam gasket...what foam gasket??? I don't remember seeing one. I remember the foam breaking down around the speakers wires which fell down onto the board, but I think that was it. I did the caps as when it heated up by playing Aux in and the radio then the CD player started played fine so I thought it must be cap related 👍

[@stevedebeukelaer1424]

Hi Vince can i give you trick how easily remove smd elco. Just take a plier. Twist it and elco let lose will not damage the board . Try it

[@michaelmoore7975]

Those SMD electrolytics are perfect for hot tweezers.

[@raybokor2]

the tube system for the sound was developed for NASA and used on the space station

[@mykerobmedia]

Hi Vince. Not sure if you have noticed a drop in viewership numbers recently. Perhaps it's just my end but wondered why I hadn't seen you in my feed recently. The last video I watched was you repairing a Beomaster. I thought you were on an upload break or something. Checking back that last video I watched is now 4 months old. Is the algorithm not pushing your content out. Seems I have a lot of catching up to do. Hope all is well. Myke

[@Mymatevince]

Thanks Myke, I think the last time KZbin pushed me was the Amazon Return box video that I did last October time. I don't think my content is suited to the wider audience due to the length of my vids so views are dropping, but have been for years now. I'm just glad I'm still doing it, as I thought the end was nigh a couple of years ago now 😂

[@mykerobmedia]

@Mymatevince I've caught up on a few vids so now you're back in my feed mate. Keep up the great work

[@chezsnailez]

Couldn't help wondering if the combination of using probes held by gator clips might not skew the ESR readings...

[@jeromedumalin9954]

My bose just has the exact same Problem. I mean, will have had... Thanksalot

[@user-nx9dh1cu3v]

Mashallah your knowledge is pretty amazing what a smart person

[@gamernature]

The CD player was stop starting not skipping otherwise the track numbers would have skipped also I don't think you needed to change the capacitors were alright despite the readings. If you watch at the very begging of the video you hear the disc drive making a clicking sound as like if there was a loose piece of plastic was stopping the disc drive from turning properly and when you have taken them out, you should have checked see if the disc drive was still stop starting and still was making that clicking sound before replacing any capacitors.

[@dhammar73]

I was told there would be a blue mat…

[@jarozlawus]

Still wearin' a speedmaster, eh? 😊

[@KorAllRBare]

Skipping CD Player.. Is that yo way of avoiding Copyright Strikes? 😂 I'm Kidding, Err-APU 👁👍

[@Blue-Crits]

The poor guy changed the capacitors for us 😢 Big respect to my man 🫡

[@Boogie_the_cat]

I won't be skipping any of this video PS: Content ID Match won't screw you with that playback....

[@Mymatevince]

😂

[@captainnutnut6077]

You say that, but *never* underestimate these flipping content ID bots. They are next level!

[@charlesmurphy1510]

You should remove one and then test it with the ESR out of circuit.

[@craigwharton2338]

@mymatevince I have a Bose soundtouch 2 with no power, ive had a poke around but have hit a wall, would you be interested in it for a video? If so how do I go about sending it? TIA

[@Paul-ib5xv]

I thought you’d have better taste in music Vince, I must admit.😂😂

[@OriginalPatrickWilliams]

Wooooooo!

[@UltimatelyEverything]

Looks like they picked this up from a bin or a landfill or something like that with the amount of dirt and damage it had i know it wasn't well maybe but it just looks like it was.

[@markshellard5894]

A few hours later…will it work?

[@Randomii666]

Vince really needs a copyright free cd to test these on 😁

[@Tim_3100]

My friend had one of these

[@OntologicalQuandry]

ARGH! _Never_ grab a CD by the top and bottom: always by the edges, especially a Daniel o'Donnell CD. Also, _never_ put a CD down on any surface, especially carpet.

[@SamCanada1]

👍😊

[@TheSynrgy1987]

Is it just me that finds replacing capacitors relaxing and cathartic, not engaging content though ha!

[@LlamaRed]

Why does the metalic shield say do not reuse?

[@ralphj4012]

Generally (not always) EMC etc tests (to meet approvals) are done with shields in place. If you prise the shield off and refit it you could disrupt the RF shielding part (reduce metal contact and therefore increase emissions beyond approval limits). Though, a shield with holes in it has always made me laugh.

[@yesitreallyisme]

That grill at the end looks a bit yrllowed from the beginning of the video.

[@christopherdecorte1599]

Honestly BOSE radios dont deserve the premium price tag they do have decent sound but they arn't made well and even the high end stuff require special cables for interconnected components like you didnt pay enough for their products to begin with. Personally i rather buy a similar Sony or Panasonic product they often use better quality parts and look nicer.

[@leefreeman-roach3526]

“UD” U Decide 😅

[@smaza2009]

Ejects it cos it's Daniel o Donnal ha ha 😊

[@jamiepowell6655]

Daniel again my ears are bleading

[@RandyDarkshade2]

Why did you beep each cap out and why did you take photos? All you needed to do was put the new cap on in the same orientation as the old cap. They are amrked with a black mark after all.

[@johanslabbert2869]

That gunk around the sound chip looks a lot like cockroach poop 😬

[@missterious69]

the broken music system makes the CD sound better

[@coondogtheman]

I had a Bose wave radio like this. Bose is pronounced "Boze". By the way. The set I had was similar to yours but it had no remote. Cd player worked radio worked. I was using it and the audio just faded like the volume was turned down. Tried recapping it and broke one of the traces so I junked it. Kept the speakers/waveguide part and threw the rest away. I can find an amp to use with the speakers or a car radio.

[@RWL2012]

Good to see you still around :)

[@lordflashheart7427]

these things always seem to be broken

[@DanPottas]

Hi vince I've got a 2.4l undersink instant water system can you give me your po box I'll get it sent to u would love to see it on your channel

[@leefreeman-roach3526]

It’s the greatest cd again 🤣

[@sargentmaxis]

i say it will be 1 hour

[@nadussee]

What skips? Seems.... ight..... tome. A cheapo chinese phone is is awesome in these scenarios, they often have ir blasters in them.

[@Mike-James]

Just checked Amazon and these systems are not cheap.

[@boofuls]

Problem is obvious.. there's a tiny woodpecker stuck inside

[@Phil-Sands]

Any CD player would skip playing a Daniel O'Donnell CD 🤣🤣🤣

[@wayne7521]

Who oh 🤮 🤮 🤮

[@HeikosGarage]

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