Eben Alexander Discusses His Wild NDE with Gary Habermas

Dr. Eben Alexander has one of the craziest Near Death Experiences (NDE) to ever be documented. In this video, he discusses his story with Dr. Gary Habermas (a Christian philosopher). The two of them discuss what NDE's can teach us about reality.
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[@CapturingChristianity]

Cam here. I wanted to make it known explicitly that I don't claim to endorse the content of this video (the same is true for many of the discussions/interviews I conduct). IMO, the conversation between Gary and Eben is interesting and valuable in its own right.

[@goaliemelvin]

Wise clarification, Cam! Appreciated your politeness to both of your guests in letting them speak freely. As Dr. Alexander was a first time guest, it showed mature restraint for you and Dr. Habermas to let him speak fully without feeling the need for constant rebuttals or trigger warnings. I think that shows great respect for your guest and immense trust in your audience. God bless! Keep up the great work!

[@laymanchristian1138]

I think it is sad that u have to clarify that. You do a great job at allowing people to speak freely! Matt Fradd and yourself becoming my favourite channels ! Keep up good work !

[@melchior2678]

@@laymanchristian1138 but his moderators in this channel's live chat don't do a very good job of allowing people to speak freely. Cam should fire them.

[@Tommy01_XO]

@@melchior2678 can confirm that moderators don’t work for Capturing Christianity, at least I don’t.

[@TempleofChristMinistries]

A wise statement especially concerning reincarnation which has been also refuted by others who have investigated nbes, because they have found out later that those who believe they had a life before this one found out that it was memories of a book they read years ago and had forgotten things of this nature, also in certain scientific magazines written accounts of those who have received body parts hearts especially, from organ donors, who have woken up with memories which do not belong to them, and there are a couple of cases if not more where the doona was actually murdered and they actually captured the murderer through the memories of the one who received the organ, which is a very interesting thing to say the least.

[@shiny2423]

I used Dr. Eben's book to convince my stubborn Atheistic brother that consciousness goes on after we die. Subsequently had him read, ' More Than A Carpenter ' to lead him to Christ just 2 weeks before he died.

[@MichaelSeven7777]

Very interesting conversation. As somebody who is currently researching NDEs I am surprised about all the scientific literature on it. The veridical part of it where the people who have experienced it have been able to recount what happened while they were unconscious is remarkable; these accounts happen to children, adults and people across all faiths even atheists recalling events or objects that are beyond the scope of the environment where the body is located. The most famous atheist NDE is probably that of AJ Ayers although nothing in his specific account was veridical. I never thought I would actually come to this conclusion but I am convinced that this is good evidence that the consciousness survives beyond death.

[@taracoleman3921]

If you are researching NDEs... I would like to share mine with you!

[@rdabdao3535]

Super interesting discussion. Gary's healthy level of skepticism was pleasant to hear. He even shared that he was quite influenced by Hume, yet he still concludes that Jesus rose from the dead and that Christianity is true -- this says a lot about the truth of the resurrection.

[@patrickboyle6727]

Jesus did rise from the dead that is true,thanks be to god.

[@ATiwade]

Great and respectful conversation. Thank you for hosting these beautiful people.

[@rositahuff4858]

…my grandma lived to the age of 104…my dad died 3 weeks before her…we did not tell her…on our last visit to her she told us he visited her and he did not talk but gave her a huge hug…she died one day after…..

[@alwayslearningtech]

This was a thoroughly enjoyable conversation. I realise Eben's views don't agree with your own, it shows great character for you to have him share his experience on your channel. I'm only about halfway through so far, but it's been fantastic up until this point. Well done, Cameron, I think this is a great step towards what so many of us enjoyed about your show when you first started it.

[@beowulf.reborn]

I think NDEs are great evidence for the existence of consciousness beyond death, however, when folk like Dr. Alexander speak of all of the love, and acceptance, etc. that they encountered, and then go and tell people that there is no reason to fear death. They are ignoring all of the NDEs where the person didn't experience love and acceptance, but darkness, torment, hopelessness, etc. Then of course there are all the NDEs that begin in the light, with the overwhelming love, and then the person realizes that they can't stay there, and they begin to "fall" into the darkness, the torment, etc. And realize they missed the opportunity to receive that love, because of the things they did in life. The fact is, that these tiny glimpses are enough to tell us that there is life/consciousness, beyond death, but they are by no means enough to build our worldviews off of. Especially since, whilst they share many commonalities, they also have many differences that are at variance with one another. They are subjective glimpses of a reality beyond the material universe, that should provoke us to seeking the answers, they are not, however, the answer in and of themselves.

[@beowulf.reborn]

"Just as man is appointed to die once, and after that to face judgment." ~ Hebrews 9:27

[@Gatorbeaux]

Except Lazarus- lol.

[@beowulf.reborn]

@@Gatorbeaux True, Lazarus, and others that have been raised from the dead were exceptions to this rule. That is the nature of miracles. The Universe operates under general principles and laws that govern the natural order, whilst miracles suspend these laws or principles in order to bring about something that is out of the ordinary. If the general laws and principles did not exist, then we would be unable to distinguish when Miraculous events occur. So for example, in the case of death, if the rule was not that a person dies once, and then faces judgment, then people might come back to life randomly all over the place, you'd never know whether to bury a loved one or wait a few more days or weeks or months, etc, in case they randomly come back to life. Furthermore, when someone did come back to life, you'd have no way to know if it was a miracle or just one of the many random resurrections. Instead, what we see, is the general rule and the miraculous exceptions go hand-in-hand to both confirm the other.

[@gfujigo]

@@beowulf.reborn Excellent!

[@razony]

That's just ONE book. Where else do you find Jesus story?

[@Gatorbeaux]

@@razony are you asking who wrote about Jesus besides the Bible? A bunch-

[@TruthBeTold7]

I've learned a lot from Dr. Habermas. Great books, great scholar and researcher.

[@blackcat9100]

Great man, great conversation! We need more people like him to come out and tell their stories. Most people prefer to keep this stuff to themselves out of fear of being ridiculed or called crazy. That what happened in my case. I had a very similar experience when 18 years old. I was so amazed and shaken by it that I was eager to share it with all my friends. The best reaction l got was disbelief. The worst was a friend of mind who got angry at me , saying that I should get serious and get on with my life instead of making up stories like this! I salute Dr Eben Alexander for his work and desire to share his knowledge with us!

[@chriscomix1]

love the way dr Eben describes everything!!.

[@JohnnyRebKy]

Dr Eben convinced me. He had no need or reason to make up a story and sell a book unlike many others. The man already had more money than he could spend. He had nothing to gain by this. For that reason I take his experience pretty seriously

[@tbu5118]

Do some research...he had plenty of reasons.

[@rose5566]

@@tbu5118 explain then, how he healed so well from something that should have killed him or left him with disabilities?

[@chase6579]

I'd be less concerned with whether he is making it up and more concerned with whether he is deceived. Prelest is a thing.

[@rhuttner12]

@@tbu5118 Just cause you make money from something, doesn’t automatically make the story untrue. He did admit to slightly dramatizing parts of the story, for entertainment. But, he stands by his story. Most detractors fall down to attacks on HIS character, hand waving it as a hallucination, and nothing else. None of the critics actually engage his points.

[@No_name860]

I don’t think he’s lying, I think he’s been deceived though. There are parts of his story that don’t line up with biblical theology and in my opinion satan would have plenty of reason to want to deceive him so that he can deceive others. What better vessel to use then a neurologist, because this world perceives people with degrees as some how much more intelligent, and trust them more then they trust their own instincts.

[@larrycarmody8325]

Eben was healed with Father God's miraculous love

[@MaverickChristian]

1:18:08 to 1:26:00. The FAQ responds to lawsuits, noting that they were settled (lawsuits usually are, particularly when it's not a close call) but doesn't respond to the e.g., the doctor's testimony against him. The NDE article he refers to is apparently "Eben Alexander's Near-Death Experience: How an Esquire article Distorted the Facts" by Robert Mays (a guest editorial) That article does not interview Laura Potter, the key physician witness of the Esquire article (apparently she was unresponsive to telephone calls by this person). The article does claim a quote by her nonetheless supposedly issued to the Associated Press which if veridical would seem to cast doubt on the Esquire article, but I've been unable to verify the veracity of the quote (a google search turns up nothing solid). One of the reasons for suspicion is that at the time Eben Alexander had a far higher than normal lawsuit load against him, something he left out in this interview when he talked about his lawsuits (settlements are the norm, not the exception, and are usually done when it's not a close call about who would win). The Esquire article reports (p. 95) "By the time all pending cases are resolved, Alexander will have settled five malpractice cases in the last ten years. Only one other Virginia-licensed neurosurgeon has settled as many cases in that time period, and none of settled more." He had a powerful motive to acquire cash (settlements aren't necessarily cheap, especially if you undergo them far more than usual as Alexander did). Alexander had his alleged NDE when there was a $3 million lawsuit pending. He made a lot of money with his NDE, selling webinars and even co-founding an organization called “Eternea” where (at the time) if paid $1,200 a year or more, you could qualify for a membership status called “archangel.” There was also a "Guild" in which membership dues began at $10,000 per year. Lifetime membership was offered to anyone who made a major lump sum gift of $25,000. To insinuate that there was no financial gain here (1:25:36 to 1:25:59) strikes me as somewhat misleading. At 1:23:51 to 1:51:55 he says the Esquire article author (Luke Dittrich) was "obviously blackballed" by the industry, but the evidence he cites for this (not having published an article in the press for several years) seems insufficient, since it's unclear that writing articles for newspapers and magazines is his intended primary source of income. However, Alexander's claim that some 200 scientists questioned Dittrich's book appears to be factual (one can find it reported in Scientific American) to at least some degree; there was dispute about Dittrich's characterizations of an MIT neuroscientist. I'll link to it in the comment below this one. I'm not saying I know for sure Eben Alexander is a grifter, but I think some amount of skepticism is warranted.

[@jacoblee5796]

Thank you for being honest. Personally I would say its beyond obvious this guy is a fraud, but that's just me.

[@streetsdisciple0014]

Just...WOW

[@danbaron2561]

You know, I knew nothing about malpractice lawsuits having been filed against him, but, I have seen him so many times on KZbin, and I have always been suspicious of him. (It's pretty easy for a smooth talker to fool most people, correct?!!)

[@MaverickChristian]

@@jacoblee5796 _Thank you for being honest._ You're welcome. I wanted to believe him, but we all have to learn to be skeptical of our own side.

[@MaverickChristian]

So apparently I can't post links here without KZbin automatically deleting my comments. I've posted a version of the main comment with links on my blog, which is linked to in a Community Post on my KZbin channel.

[@exlibrisross]

Both Dr Eban's books are astonishing. Please read them, beautiful & inspirational. Blessings ever from Belfast, Northern Ireland.

[@catholic_based534]

do you know the names?

[@ebenalexanderiii2295]

Proof of Heaven The Map of Heaven Living in a Mindful Universe

[@pdxnikki1]

Great reads but satan is the father of deception & lies. Read with soberness

[@chase6579]

@@pdxnikki1 beat me to it.i find his ideas to be quite unsettling.

[@mpdebate6239]

40:00 extremely well put. Materialist science is faithbased. Don't let atheists fool you..

[@jonathanwilliams6922]

Great stuff guys

[@brockgeorge777]

I appreciate Gary’s perspective. It takes only account of what argues that there is post death consciousness, whereas avoiding the relative free-for all of described experiences in the spiritual realm itself.

[@patrickboyle6727]

Gary habermas is a true scholar and expert he has spent his life studying and researching

[@heavnxbound]

I like the ‘&’ in the middle of the screen, though I think it would look perfect if it was a bit smaller. Great video once again :)

[@pdxnikki1]

So agree. Visually distracting & unappealing

[@mike3806]

I think Gary was spot on when he said it's the interpretation of NDEs that's important (once we're granting these.. which Eben's experience seems virtually irrefutable, tho some say that an NDE could be the creativity of a dying brain) However, given NDEs, what do they show? Eben seems to be a pluralist or Chrisitan universalist whereas Gary is a conservative Christian (inclusivist or exclusivist I cant tell). I know Gary's work is on the resurrection of Jesus but not where he falls on the soteriological spectrum...

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Atheist: An NDE is an unusual experience produced inside the brain while alive. Christian: An NDE is an outside the brain experience or an after the brain is dead experience (which seems unlikely if the brain is the source of experience.)

[@clarekuehn4372]

@@JamesRichardWiley No. NDEs could also be an incomplete death. It is obviously not the brain.

[@Kristian-ql8zw]

@@JamesRichardWiley The whole argument they're making is that the brain is not the "source of experience" as you put it. They believe that the soul is separate from the brain, which is what enables people to have such experiences.

[@JustErics101]

NDEs appear to support a sort of Perrenialism, where a lot of reliogion are touching on the same reality of god but interpret it differently and have different takes. Differences in NDE imagery are connected to what most helps us process the experience, ie god communicates to us in a way we can understand. Some NDErs are even told these things in their experiences. It seems to me that this is the most rational perspective of NDEs. A perusal of hundreds of NDEs strongly suggests the view Habermas is wrong.

[@amandacarmel6084]

Excellente video!! I learned so much thanks u

[@billtessgreatadventure1481]

I love how Gary points to the resurrection as a historical event and toward the verifiable portions of these NDEs as being the only thing relevant for seeking truth. When I listen to Eben, I feel like he’s speaking on par with what could be described as the Christian understanding of the One World religion set for the times known as the tribulation period. Eben’s thoughts on unity of all consciousness and religious beliefs speak more towards his own existential bias as opposed to anything verifiable about consciousness or religion. Interesting conversation. I’d love to see the conversation about resurrection.

[@tylerbolar]

Thanks!

[@Im_No_Expert_72]

Very interesting. I have a totally different world view of what comes next. Orthodox Christian. Testimonies like this sure are nice to listen to, but my opinion is that good doctor has been deceived. Reincarnation, absence of both Christ and the demons, I just don't believe that the reality of the soul after death corresponds to his description. I've had two near death experiences myself, and if I went on to describe it I'm sure most of the people that read this would say they don't agree with my experience. Nevertheless I will say that the demons are ever so real and deceptive, a person must spend their life in repentance seeking Union with God through Jesus Christ, or that soul will be lost after death. Nobody wants to hear that but it's the truth. Thank you for this discussion. ☦️

[@Im_No_Expert_72]

@@ty1158 Yes. Spiritual deception is possible at any time. And it's not because God doesn't love us and wants to hand us over to delusion - we humans have a DESIRE for delusion. And are thus given over to it.

[@devilwithaharp]

that was really cool!!

[@World0097]

Thank you JESUS CHRIST

[@jamesstandifer1683]

Nice!

[@apureenergyme8573]

So many people reported same experience just like Dr Eben. I don’t just convinced by him, I know what he experienced is real.

[@patrickboyle6727]

Jesus is the way the truth and the light🙏.we are blessed to have had him and to have him.he literally spelled it out for us. Anything we want to know by way of truth we can learn from him.

[@brunom.9861]

@Capturing Christianity, could you please list the books and sites mentioned on this talk?

[@ktlow107]

Amazing testimony. In the NDE experience, does it give you a view of the role or purpose of suffering?

[@lindal.7242]

The evidential cases that Gary talks about being on this world also occur in the other realms when experiencers recieve confirmable info from deceased relatives or see people who they believe are still alive only to find that they had passed away while the experiencer was having their experience.

[@Jesus_is_Lord-]

I thought I was listening to a discussion between a New ager and a Christian xD

[@zatoichi1]

You were lol

[@1Ilovethis]

Best show ever

[@ruthhouser6718]

God bless Gary H.

[@martarico186]

This was mostly about Eben's experience. I was disappointed that Gary didn't give much input in this discussion.

[@pdxnikki1]

Me too.

[@lindal.7242]

I'm always disappointed that Gary Habermas never gives his opinions on NDE accounts that continue beyond the veridical evidence for them. Understandably they really challenge ones existing religious world views but if you're one who is convinced that the evidence shows they are truly out of body experiences, than not to deal with the consequences of the rest of the experiences is somehow disingenuous.

[@amandaleidy1820]

I disagree. I think he does. He’s not elaborating exhaustively and with emotional responses on the topics, but he’s precise and very direct. This I appreciate greatly from him

[@Miatpi]

I had just written a comment to ask for a follow up where you adress the question of reincarnation, and then I come to the end where you actually decide to do it! GEAT!!! I felt like this conversation, while having great content, left me with a LOT more questions than answers. Most prominently about reincarnation, but also about whether the godhead is a personal being or not (Eben calls it a "god-force") and what NDE say about sin, fall of man and damnation (Ebens view of the world sounds a bit universalistic to me). Cameron, if you read this, could you add these questions to the topic of the follow up? I think I wouldn't be the only one to benefit from having them adressed.

[@chase6579]

Keep in mind that Satan is a deceiver and would love nothing more than to misdirect us from truth.

[@patrickboyle6727]

@@chase6579 I agree with you chase,I wouldn't look to eben(god bless him)to tell me anything,I'd look to the man who rose from the dead!Jesus!he told us all we need to know!eben does speak to a living on of the conscious soul while the brain is dead!but he saw his sister who he never met who had died when he had this experience,I would cite the fact that when people visit psychics slash mediums they are supposedly talking to lost loved ones,but it is supposedly nefarious beings trying to gain your trust,the same I believe with these so called alien experiences

[@madelynhernandez7453]

I know this is an old post, but honestly NDEs as beautiful as they sound, Don't sit right with me in my gut. It all sounds like Universalism with all this oneness. Makes me wonder, could we be wrong about Christianity and the real truth is closer to the Hindu teachings of oneness and pre birth and reecarnation stuff and that we are in an eternal cycle of existence. Sounds terrifying to me. Idk.

[@jasonengwer8923]

NDEs are paranormal, but highly diverse, inconsistent, and subjective. (I'll cite some sources with documentation below.) I think the most likely explanation is that NDEs and some other phenomena are a dreamlike state the soul enters when prematurely separated from the body, which gives us only minimal information about the afterlife, an afterlife that's significantly different than what we see in NDEs. The dreaming we experience in our everyday lives gives us a precedent, though NDEs are different than dreams in some ways. When the soul is released from the restrictions of the body in an NDE (and in some similar experiences), there are improvements in sight, hearing, what information the soul has access to, etc. Thus, NDEs have their vividness, access to information we don't normally have access to (e.g., knowledge that somebody has recently died whose death we wouldn't know about by normal means when the soul is embodied), and so on. As Stephen Braude has argued in a chapter in a recent book, a soul separated from the body would have to utilize things like telepathy and clairvoyance in order to have experiences analogous to sight, hearing, etc. (Dangerous Pursuits [San Antonio, Texas: Anomalist Books, 2020], 199-215) So, it's unsurprising that the disembodied soul would sometimes gain access to information the soul doesn't have when embodied. But none of this changes the fact that NDEs are highly subjective. They're subjective within the framework of the soul's knowledge that it's left the body, thus explaining the focus on the afterlife in NDEs, but what occurs within that framework is very subjective. There's some degree of objectivity, vividness, and paranormal knowledge, but the experiences are nevertheless largely dreamlike. For some examples of how subjective NDEs and some similar experiences seem to be, see Gregory Shushan's Near-Death Experience In Indigenous Religions (New York, New York: Oxford University Press, 2018). The indigenous experiences he discusses there are significantly different than what we typically see in NDEs reported in some other contexts, like the United States. Todd Murphy wrote an article you can find online, titled "Near-Death Experiences in Thailand", and it has some relevant content. It focuses on the Buddhism of Thailand, and it provides examples of how non-Christian religious themes are present in these NDEs in a variety of ways (beliefs about monks and temples, the role of Yama in the afterlife, etc.). There are explicit references to Buddha, Yama, reincarnation, Dharma, Indra, Brahma, etc. Allan Kellehear wrote, "Finally, these NDE reports [from India] included observing religious figures and deceased beings in a supernatural world with features that resembled the traditional view of the 'other realm.'…the figures observed in this world are those suggested by traditional Indian or Chinese mythology." (in Janice Miner Holden, et al., edd., The Handbook Of Near-Death Experiences [Santa Barbara, California: Praeger Publishers, 2009], 140) Yet, other NDEs are explicitly Christian (e.g., the NDE of one of Maurice Rawlings' patients, which got Rawlings involved in NDE research). Ken Vincent wrote: "I personally have met two Jews who saw Jesus during their NDEs; one converted to Christianity, and the other was thinking about it." (May 8, 2012 post in a thread titled "The Buddha in hell" at Nancy Evans Bush's Dancing Past the Dark blog) Bruce Greyson's recent book includes an account of somebody who met Jesus and heard him talking about dying on the cross, so it clearly wasn't a matter of interpreting an ambiguous being as Jesus (After [New York, New York: St. Martin's Essentials, 2021], approximate Kindle location 2470). There are reports of encountering figures we usually associate with fiction or mythology, such as the Grim Reaper (Patricia Pearson, Opening Heaven's Door [New York, New York: Atria Books, 2014], approximate Kindle location 1425). There's a low double-digit percentage of reported NDEs that are negative or hellish rather than heavenly (Janice Miner Holden, et al., edd., The Handbook Of Near-Death Experiences [Santa Barbara, California: Praeger Publishers, 2009], 70, 81). Given how many people who have hellish NDEs don't report it (because of the shame involved, for example), I suspect the actual percentage is somewhere in the 20s. People sometimes go back and forth between heaven and hell, within one experience or from one experience to another, sometimes with no apparent reason for going back and forth (ibid., 65, 76).

[@Gatorbeaux]

John Burke’s book on Heaven/ NDEs said the hellish experience is around 18% so your % was spot on. The experiences that were most like the Bible describes heaven was almost or around 50%. The rest were either neutral or the patient didn’t have clear recollection. This stuff is fascinating and I’ve spoken with 2 friends that had them and both met guardian angels and spoke with Jesus and both had life reviews. One was dead 15 mins the other 1 hour and had been pronounced dead and was prayed over as a last effort and came back..

[@Convexhull210]

Maybe in the non christian ndes, satan uses their buddhist beliefs to make them think they are seeing some kind of temple of light. I mean he is the father of lies and we know in paranormal experiences that many people claim to see love ones after they're dead. Demons can do all kinds of things to manipulate people into worshipping Satan

[@dibakarhajong2737]

But they say it's more real than real. Even Eben Alexander says it's more real than real. And it's not dreamlike at all

[@jaromsmiss]

@@Convexhull210 but the buddhist would probably have a reason why the Christian NDE are wrong. like we had a false angel or whatever you know? the same logic can be used

[@Convexhull210]

@@jaromsmiss that would be ad hoc because if Christianity is true, then other religions would be false. So the Buddhist would be wrong and that means Satan is at work in some of these experiences

[@clarekuehn4372]

Wonderful, fairly complete topic discussion! But I would like more on the disagreements with some (not all) of Jesus' words, and the false John the Baptist claim by Dr A. Thanks, all.

[@charleslohr9603]

Honestly, how is it only so few have watched this video?

[@larrycarmody8325]

No si

[@Captain-Awesome]

Gary Habermas mass is and always will be a class act. I enjoy his simple, detailed presentations. He is never in a rush and just gives the facts clear and as easy follow and understand. Eden Alexander is passionate about what he has to say but clearly seems to still be trying to convince himself. I can certainly appreciate his intelligence to be a brain surgeon. The Bible gives you everything you need, it explains literally everything. Jesus is the only way and we only get one go around. Oh and Eden should know that the Liberal Media will never tell the truth. They do the very same thing to every Republican or even an independent.

[@lottewied1937]

The NDE of Jim Woodford,made a big impression on me. Will you please have an interview with him and Gary? I read Dr Eben Alexander's book. Is it my imagination that he has changed some of his perceptions? He must just relay it and not come to all kind of conclusions.

[@tinekedijk7385]

Always remember that Jesus is the centre of our lives and the Creator of the universe .

[@CCCBeaumont]

There is no reason to hash out Eben's theology with him in this forum, but I am sure both Cameron and Gary could meet with him more privately about the flawed interpretations he placed in the experiences he had.

[@danbaron2561]

@@aanon2550 😂 Yes, Eben Alexander is very arrogant, and is incapable of introspection. 🤣

[@danbaron2561]

@@aanon2550 It makes perfect sense. You did not specify who you were referring to. Anyway, thanks for the condescension.

[@danbaron2561]

@@aanon2550 I think you are not very intelligent, but, you are convinced that you are.

[@danbaron2561]

@@aanon2550 I'm not changing any subject. To me, the words you use, indicate someone who is attempting to appear intelligent - "spoken", "arrogance", "self-reflection", "context", "abundantly", "setup", "quip", "tee", "Haha". Additionally, you use condescension, which is something bullies do because they cannot win intellectually. Also, I suspect your character, since you do not use your real name.

[@CCCBeaumont]

@@aanon2550 or your response is. lol

[@Marcello1b]

I listened for now the first 10 minutes and I stop here to listen the rest soon; just wow! My mother bought his book describing his NDE, I seriously consider to buy one for myself soon. There are experience we wouldn't wish to anyone, yet God can with all his might reorganize our situation, our neuronal brain to grow huge spiritual steps towards Him, for the beneficial of the one who lives it, for the benefit of many other. St-Paul before was called Saul. He was one of worst percecuter of Christians of his time. Yet, God used Saul for his deep knowledge in hebrew scripture, in many other languages he possessed; He changed Saul's name to Paul and he became one important stone step in Christianity. Today, there are many atheists who, living deep personal spiritual experiences, are transformed for us all. Never underestimate God's might = trust in God. Joshua in the Old testimony conquered many territory for God. It took years; the struggle was there for years, and yet, God transformed, disposed for the future. God may take years from some, days for others; but with courage and faith, He will transformed us. We have to admire his marvelous around us; some seems extraordinary and other simple. But at the end, even little things from God, as droplets of water may change lands of nature. God is always there. We may just as well admire His works whioe staying aside Him. Today, it is Russia-Ukranian conflict. We always have to be ready while praying for them.

[@jeremeydwinell1316]

I have a book recommendation for Ebal...Douglas Groothuis "deceived by the light"

[@allenheart582]

Dr. Eben Alexander's experience showed human consciousness "collapses the wave function" to create "hard reality." Our consciousness is a work of cocreation, a concept that continually popped up in my poetry, seemingly out of thin air. Our bodies are mortal, but our spirit is Immortal--Then I discovered my poetry was Gnostic, but I had not known what Gnosticism was about. Then I began to understand the “dazzling darkness” I had witnessed in meditation, and the weird poetry many found so evocative. More details in my second book, Surviving the Micronova: This Train is on the Tracks"

[@ThruTheUnknown]

Bit disappointed two Christian philosophers and the best that could be mustered to refute panentheism was that Jesus rose from the grave. I'm pretty sure Eben already believes that so as Jesus never gave us his philosophy on that someone like Eben is still left free to ponder that as the truth about reality. Just one verse like The creation groans in anticipation for the sons of God would do.

[@gfujigo]

Interesting point. They likely could have pushed back more. However perhaps the purpose was to discuss the viewpoints but not really engage in a dogged debate. Plus, if the resurrection is historically true then this validates the claims of Jesus and thus Christ’s claims need to be taken seriously - and Christ’s teachings definitely provide clear truths and guidance about many of these issues.

[@brockgeorge777]

I understand the point, but this was not the place. All the attention would have gone to that and little to the point of establishing the point without which *nothing* spiritual matters. Are NDE’s a real form of evidence for life after death. Having said that, no one watching would have through my watching and listening to Gary that he was even *slightly* impressed with the interpretations that Evan was advancing.

[@ThruTheUnknown]

@@brockgeorge777 Yeah I understand that, still would have been for at least one of them to offer a follow up with Eben about whether evolutionary panentheism made more sense of the world. Instead ppl may come across this video thinking it has more going for it than the Christian worldview.

[@moesypittounikos]

For a second there I thought the other guy was Dan Dennett who was debating Eben!

[@minetime6881]

51:39 So he appears to be a religious pluralist, but more complex, because he has all of his ideas of reincarnation. I wonder if he know all of the contradictions between Christianity and his view, and also how all of the world religions differ from each other. And how it’s hard to say if that is possible.

[@ChrisBandyJazz]

I'm sure he does, he explicitly said that all of the world religions are unified in one sense, but that none of them gets it exactly right. So I don't think he would be bothered at all about contradictions.

[@minetime6881]

@@ChrisBandyJazz I guess that’s at least logically coherent, but how does he react to the evidence for Jesus’s Resurrection?

[@ChrisBandyJazz]

@@minetime6881 I would be very interested to hear that. My guess is that he would believe in it but still try to fit it into a pluralistic worldview.

[@minetime6881]

@@ChrisBandyJazz That’s what I would expect but I don’t think that would hold up to the fact that if someone comes back to life, most likely l, whatever they say is true. And Jesus never said anything about reincarnation, but did about heaven. So it would be pretty hard to reconcile that, don’t you think?

[@ChrisBandyJazz]

@@minetime6881 I'm not so sure, I find it plausible that Jesus thought that the world was going to end during his lifetime. This has been argued by top New Testament scholars such as Dale Allison, EP Sanders, and Bart Ehrman. If someone believes in that and also in the resurrection (such as Allison), they will probably think that God raised Jesus from the dead in order to vindicate Jesus’ message of love and surrender to God, and also to kickstart the Christian movement-not necessarily to confirm everything that Jesus said. I personally am more open to things like pluralism or at least inclusivism when I hear about experiences in other religions (among other things).

[@ketesafewyalefemedia2378]

the spirit is to communicate with the spiritual world ( unseen world) and the body with the natural world, so the soul stands between and exercises its power to discern and decide whether the spiritual or the natural world should reign.

[@choosejesus1910]

Walk in the spirit not the flesh.

[@TheologyUnleashed]

The reasoning from the resurrection to Christian exclusivism doesn't work. Many theologies found in other cultures are compatible with Jesus's resurrection. Gary Habermas pointed out very well that the NDEs and the interpretation of the NDE need to be parsed out and scrutinised. The same applies to the facts of the resurrection and the interpretations.

[@calebp6114]

Would you not agree that if Jesus' resurrection occurred, Christianity would be likely true?

[@st.mephisto8564]

Very interesting! Can you elaborate on the matter? I always found the concept of subtle body found in Eastern Religions is a lot like Spiritual body of Resurrection

[@jonageskuland]

Has anyone experienced 2 NDE's or more?

[@pdxnikki1]

Eben:, as a lifelong Jewish atheist who put all trust in naturalist material science, I well understand your position. Had I wanted a god-which I adamantly did NOT- the very last one I would've chosen would've been Jesus. The problem with your doctrine is that it relies solely on your experience. The Spirit realm exists. But there is only one Holy Spirit of God & He only glorifies Yeshua. That your experience doesn't testify to Him alone means that you're being influenced by other spiritual forces that are NOT of God. I would humbly ask you to pursue Truth rather than experience. Jesus IS TRUTH. Not just a truth but THE TRUTH. He is not just a way but THE ONLY WAY. Please, dear doctor & beloved of God, do your research. God bless you & thank you for helping opening the minds of folks who are deceived by scientific naturalism. Those who deny Me before the Father I will also deny. Jesus IS TRUTH. Please preach Him. Do your research. Don't believe anything you think. GOD BLESS YOU, SIR!!! 🥰❤️🤗🙏🥰🤗🙏❤️

[@theoskeptomai2535]

How did you come to conclude that this Jesus is "the truth"? What exactly does that mean?

[@decomposegaming]

I agree with what you say but what Is a jewish atheist

[@Let_there_be_light22]

Amen amen amen!!! Finally someone talked about truth.the whole doctrine of finding God in this life is through Yeshua. I completely agree with this. The devil uses half truths to lead people astray. He has to borrow some truth in order to convince humans. Otherwise it won’t work. I feel like people like Eben Alexander and Anita Murjaani are used by the devil to spread half truths. So people with itching ears will digest this with ease and stay satisfied with the lie, that as long as they are “good” and “loving” they will make it to heaven. What about repentance? I believe he is close to finding the truth. But without Jesus and his sacrifice- you simply cannot think you will be in the holy of holies. No way. You need to repent. And believe. And follow him. Hallelujah to the one and only King Jesus.

[@TorahObservantUnitarian]

He was never braindead...... Could very well be a hallucination.

[@daman7387]

1:08:59 lol he did not cut it out

[@nateperez6587]

Wow!!! This is a huge issue for atheist!!!

[@TheEternalOuroboros]

It's called 'Near Death Experience' for a reason. He didn't die, so he couldn't have gone to an 'Afterlife'. This is barely an issue at all, but an interesting thought experiment.

[@TenTonNuke]

It's not, actually. Because there's no value in anecdotes.

[@ebenalexanderiii2295]

All of the knowledge of the world began with anecdotes. As quantum physicist Richard Feynman said in his Nobel Prize acceptance speech “A very great deal more truth can become known than can be proven.” For a mystery as deep as the nature of consciousness (reality), we are far from scientific methods that allows full proof - so study the experiments that are offered to us (ie anecdotes).

[@TenTonNuke]

@@ebenalexanderiii2295 Began as anecdotes, perhaps. But not ended. Accepting anecdotes as proof is like eating flour and eggs and calling it cake. Do the necessary steps. Put the theories to the test. Follow the scientific method. Until then a story of an NDE is no more useful than a story of a Bigfoot sighting.

[@ebenalexanderiii2295]

@@TenTonNuke I suggest you read Ed Kelly’s trilogy: Irreducible Mind, Beyond Physicalism, and Consciousness Unbound. You’ll find tremendous science supporting the view of primordial consciousness.

[@ruthhouser6718]

I find it interesting that Eben alludes to the Golden Rule given by Jesus.

[@dr.tookanauer9169]

To the materialists/Darwinists: what would be the survival value of NDEs?

[@TenTonNuke]

Christof Koch of Scientific American sums it up nicely: “Local brain regions go offline one after another. The mind, whose substrate is whichever neurons remain intact, then does what it always does: it tells a story shaped by a person’s experience, memory, and cultural expectations.” Basically, a new reality is formed using whichever parts of the brain are still functioning. This isn't a benefit to survival, it's just a process gone wrong, like a malfunctioning monitor that can suddenly only display green pixels.

[@tristanmaxwell8403]

Brian James I’m sorry, but this seems likes like assumptions. We have no proof that is what happens. Not all statements made my scientists are actually science

[@TenTonNuke]

@@tristanmaxwell8403 And you don't see the irony at all of someone who thinks ethereal spectres rise off the body in an alternate realm before going to hang out with grandma in an eternal cloud city telling someone who thinks it's just the desperate coping of a dying brain that there's no evidence and that it's just an assumption?

[@tristanmaxwell8403]

Brian James I’m not sure what he believes, but the most honest position rationally would be to say i don’t know, I challenged the post u made, to prove that just like you can’t prove ebens story the same could be made about your scientific America quote

[@TenTonNuke]

@@tristanmaxwell8403 I was under the assumption that we all agreed no one knows how to explain NDEs. That's why there are studies. Because we're trying to find out. I was offering a probable explanation.

[@jabster58]

If Christian's believe in nde, they should except the testimony of their life review experiences. Many nde persons have had a life review without an judgement from god , only self judgment. This would contradict the bible somewhat. But if we're going to believe in nde , we need to except the complete experience.

[@christianthinker2536]

If the judgement is from yourself alone, why do psychopaths or people without empathy feel the judgement?

[@ericcollins6231]

@@christianthinker2536 That’s actually not that challenging of a question. A worldview that posits a soul, is either going to be idealistic or dualistic. Meaning there is the soul, and it is interacting with the body in some capacity. The brain is an organ of the body. And one in which a presumed soul, or the self, deeply interacts with and is dependent upon for engagement on this side of reality. Brain damage effects personality. There are well known and well Documented cases of tumors causing psychopathy or pedophilia for example. Conversely we have evidence of the alternation of brain chemicals on personality. All that to say, if you understand psychopathy and sociopathy as damaged or underdeveloped brains, then when the soul or the self is no longer bound to that biological interface, it will now be able to see and act more clearly. And so in some sense, and ironically, these might be the souls which feel self condemnation the most, as it might be like waking from a bad dream and they instantly realize what they’ve done.

[@Elliott3333]

@@christianthinker2536 It's my understanding that life review is not just from the deceased's perspective, but also from the perspectives of anyone else involved. Imagine what Hitler experienced in a life review if that is true?

[@sethcasavant9572]

I’m bringing back the sethians baby!

[@raeldc]

This got me thinking. Yes, there was no brain activity during his coma. But knowing how consciousness work in the stream of time, the coma may have carved a deep gap in this stream that his brain filled in later on. Now in his healthy mind, he looks back at the time of his coma, and perhaps perceive that his strange out of body experience happened during that gap in his consciousness. In reality, it was filled in and recreated after he revived. So I’m interested how his brain worked days and months after revival. The brain activity that didn’t happen in the coma could have occurred after. I haven’t read a ton of material about NDEs, so I wonder how researchers accounted for this possible explanation.

[@andyzar1177]

This is what Sam Harris argues, its a valid question.

[@jabster58]

What about the other 1000 people or more who had similar experiences with verified visual awareness while they floated in their room and other adjacent rooms with no heart beat.

[@adamq8216]

Lol how is this any different then the famous god in the gaps argument?

[@lukyncz3778]

I prefer Christian vs athrist debate about NDE

[@prettycatlick4373]

Look at the good Christian boys try not to squirm when Doc says God Force lol

[@erykpatrykchudy5675]

🤣🤣🤩

[@mae9768]

Wow this was long and long-winded and didn't get to the bottom of things for me. So if one believes in reincarnation and the after-life, if you meet Aunt Mary in the after-life but you don't meet Aunt Paula, does that perhaps mean Aunt Paula has gone ahead to a new incarnation phase on earth? And if one can connect to those in the afterlife at any time for help as Eben says, what if you try to call on someone who has died but they have just been reincarnated somewhere someplace as a baby? Also, if the afterlife is so much more revealing and literally mindboggling, why have this place called earth at all? That is, if we are here on earth endless times until we finally learn something about love, why don't we just learn it there if its so mind expanding a place?. And how many times do we need to be reincarnated before we finally get it right? Just asking. For me, I look at the news each day and things get more and more horrible. Just exactly when is the reincarnation thing going to kick in and make this world a better place? I already gave up hoping for the age of Aquarius where we just think we are going to learn to love each other through willpower. Just a bit cynical here, always good to ask questions. Eben just seems full of himself, and I wish Gary had been more complete and comprehensive. But it was also good that this did not turn into a antagonistic debate, also.

[@madelynhernandez7453]

I share your thoughts.

[@hsingh5650]

We read in Isaiah 34:9-10, that the smoke from the land of Edom will “ascend forever”. How can smoke ascend forever? It can't escape earth's atmosphere.

[@pdxnikki1]

In the natural it can't. But we're not prayer to a natural but SUPERnatural entity called God. Adjust the framework

[@chase6579]

Also hyperbole.

[@martarico186]

Gary pretty much left at 60 minutes. Not much was heard from him

[@leesam7147]

Even rambles too much. This doesn't mean content isn't important it's just means isn't as useful as part of dialogue or panel.

[@zachw5549]

Double blind prayer test 1:02:23

[@radmcbad1576]

Well, that was an interesting dialog, though I wasn't persuaded of anything because I clicked on the video already assuming materialism is probably false. Though I will say this, it might be possible that the equipment that measures brain activity could of malfunctioned giving a false negative or possibly, the current technology is primitive and needs more work.

[@Gatorbeaux]

Faulty equipment isn’t something that can be considered(there are 20m NDE’s in america alone). Those machines wouldn’t be in circulation if they didn’t actually measure properly- it would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[@radmcbad1576]

@@Gatorbeaux It is not like I don't believe in near death experiences or doubt God, it's just with all of these problems, indicating, individuals are dead, I am wondering if these machines are malfunctioning but if the machines are working properly, this outright seems to disprove materialism. A part of me thinks that we don't understand how the brain works, near as much as we think

[@stmartin17773]

"Semiotics, John Deely and the Four Ages of Understanding with Dr Brian Kemple' KZbin at 24min30sec can help Dr Alexander with his felt need to embrace a discarnating idealism and incoherent panentheism. He just needs to recover the reality of "relation".

[@tinekedijk7385]

30 million people of the west have experienced nde ‘s !!

[@lindalmiller429]

So annoying that Dr. Habermas didn’t get time to respond!

[@marionchase-kleeves8311]

Considering the fact that this physical world will come to an end shouldn't we consider THE nature of the ETERNAL reality? Considering this w are in a dream...

[@jonnyw82]

I love Gary but I dont think he is philosophically opposed to the concept of reincarnation as much as he is doctrinally opposed. Philosophically it makes perfect sense and I say this as a committed disciple of Jesus.

[@kiabvaj5656]

NDE therefore God exists. Amen 🙏

[@ScotsThinker]

The fact that any potentiality of consciousness after death exists is worth saying Amen to.

[@passthebaton7916]

NDEs are very interesting. Can science even explain what the conscious mind is?

[@kiabvaj5656]

@@ScotsThinker But NDE is not death though.

[@flickedbic]

One could say "eridical NDE exists, therefore the soul exists"... God may well exist, but NDE seems to have a bit less to contribute here.

[@HyperFocusMarshmallow]

Sometimes when Christians talk about fine tuning, the Kalam and such I forget all the crazy, crazy things about end times, departed souls and life in heaven beyond death. This stuff really needs to be put to rest! So many people are wasting their lives on it. Sorry I’m just venting a bit.

[@andyzar1177]

Hahah The Rapture or Velociraptor? Haha.

[@HyperFocusMarshmallow]

@@andyzar1177 Sounds like a game show. 😆

[@danbaron2561]

🟢 Could Eben Alexander's entire experience have been during a 5 second span, as he came out of his coma? And, do you think he decided to become an NDE storyteller, as a second career, as a new Raymond Moody? Interestingly, Moody is also a physician.🔴

[@TenTonNuke]

I have made this point before, as well. It feels like we dream from the moment we fall asleep to the moment we wake up, but in reality we only dream for a few minutes. NDEs that appear to happen for hours while dead could very easily happen in the few minutes of dying or reviving.

[@MoonDogRadio]

He is well spoken but not solid philosophically. I don't know why he was adamant that NDEs aren't evidence of an afterlife, but nearly in the same breath talks about people experiencing NDEs and talking to loved ones who had gone on. It didn't make sense. Given that he grew up in a church, his Biblical understanding of the Bible was incredibly weak concerning Elijah, and John the Baptist. It's a huge leap to say John the Baptist is the reincarnation of Elijah.

[@bradeckert2946]

I can't just listen to Eben, I have to watch. He's like the anti-zombie. He's quite animated for someone who once was brain dead.

[@TorahObservantUnitarian]

Was his brain really incapitated ?

[@MultiLinda42]

As a child i had an out of body experience. I saw what happened to my body as i was floating above it. I felt no pain and i was surprised ofcourse. I know there s life after death. Not sure there s a god

[@mpdebate6239]

41:30 yes this conclusion has always made no sense to me and people like Daniel Dennett makes this claim that consciousness is merely an illusion from physical processes in the brain, as if its an immergent property. But the logical dilemma is... you have to use your alleged illusory consciousness to even think about the claim that consciousness is an illusion. If you're using an illusion to claim your illusion is an illusion? then? just... Its obvious consciousness must be a real manifest state of existence in order for anything else to be real or true. You cannot claim consciousness is an illusion by using that same purported illusory consciousness. Like all atheists commonly held beliefs and ideas, this is inconsistent and self refuting.

[@T.s.selvanT.s.selvan-tr1ck]

Ebay is so tedious to listen to. Yes,, Gary is way too polite.

[@dr.tamaraworley6174]

HEBREWS 9:27 💣💥💣💥💣💥💣💥💣💥💣💥💣

[@edwardtbabinski]

The majority of NDEs are loving & inspire less fear of death & loving changes in people’s lives, regardless of the patient’s religious or philosophical beliefs. But only a small % of revived patients recall an NDE. Is God wasting an opportunity to promote only ONE religion? When was the first time Eben mentioned experiencing an NDE to anyone?

[@razony]

God has NOTHING to do with religions, MAN DOES!

[@naturalisted1714]

When I was about 14 I took very potent LSD and had an intense trip, but fell asleep about halfway through the trip, and had a "dream" where I didn't have a body, and I was in like a giant vertical tunnel of human faces that we're all sad, and up through the middle was a "pillar of fire" that went on forever in both directions, up and down. And the I felt a powerful presence. I immediately knew it was God. Everything turned black/dark. Suddenly it was just God and me there in this void. We were both invisible, and so there was nothing but the black void. Then, I asked God "Why?", And that was the only word I said, but he knew what I was asking. My question was "Why is there existence, why life, why something?" He said, "The boredom of nothingness". After a long journey of life - going from pantheist, to theist, to atheist, to taoist - today I identify as an agnostic with atheist leanings, but I think about death a lot, and how many atheists say "there will be nothing after we die" or "nothingness", etc. Over the last 3 and a half years I have made it my mission to combat the idea of there being a "black void of nothingness after death", as it is not compatible with the naturalistic worldview that brains cause or do consciousness. Myself and a philosopher named Tom Clark are spreading the word about something he calls Generic Subjective Continuity. You can learn about it from my videos. I have made several about it, and Tom has an essay on it called Death Nothingness and Subjectivity on naturalism.org - Tom also made a video called Transforming Consciousness which is here on KZbin. Most atheists tend to react harshly when I try to discuss this, because they insist on asserting that "nothing happens after death". Richard Dawkins recently said, in a praise piece for Katie Engelhart's new book called The Inevitable, that death will be "Peaceful oblivion", which contradicts the idea of no longer existing - how can one experience peace if they don't exist? Many atheists resort to nonsensical language when talking about death. My point is that, no matter what *actually* happens after we die, the one thing that cannot follow death is no experience. If you'll watch my videos or read Tom's essay, you'll see why. ... I really do hope that what you say is true. I do sometimes speak to God, but I never hear him talking... That is why I am still agnostic.

[@Glorious716]

He’s talking back I promise, it takes time to hear it. As general as that sounds, it is the truth. God bless you brother ✝️🤍🙏🏽

[@grzesiekzdomeyko9707]

Have you ever analyzed historicity of Christ's resurrection? I recommend N.T. Wright on that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWGnlGNnfbufl68

[@kimberiedema6951]

Why you've become an agnost? Amd why dobt you hold the atheist view anymore?

[@wheretruthleads]

NDE CONTRADICTIONS There is objective evidence to show that NDEs are real experiences so we are left with 2 options that can account for why NDEs can be different and even contradict. Either: 1. There is only 1 objective truth and therefore spiritual experiences that contradict that truth, even NDEs that contradict that truth, are likely the result of spiritual deceptions. This does not mean that all spiritual experiences are a deception... but if there are contradictions among these experiences it does mean that spiritual deception must be a true reality we must consider when people have these experiences even if we experience them ourselves. Or... 2. Everything is true and therefore nothing is true in any objective sense. You can't accept a reality where logical contradicts exist and still hold a position that there is objective truth.... once you accept this option everything breaks down and logic and reasoning become pointless. Option 2 is not only unreasonable but it requires you to give up logic and reasoning to even hold this position. Therefore we must accept the reality that spiritual experiences and even NDEs can be a deception... but to what purpose other than there being spiritual forces that desire to keep us away from the objective truth and are willing to show us anything they think we might believe (even partial truths) as long as it leads us away from the full truth they wish to keep us from. I have researched testimony after testimony of people who have encountered spirit guides, gods and goddesses, inner self's , aliens, angels, etc and through each ones journey for truth found that the spiritual beings they confronted did not want them to know about the "biblical" Jesus Christ because they want them to believe anything but the truth that can save them. In one case these disguised beings revealed their true nature to an individual when she saw someone's testimony of being spiritualy decieved by demons and pushed the spirits to then tell her who the biblical Jesus really was. The beings then changed to their true appearances as demons and attacked her. In another case a woman said In the name of Jesus Christ I command you to reveal yourself to me, are you a demon? and for the first time they had to answer "yes" because she commanded them in the name of Jesus Christ and they had to obey. In many of these cases when the demons would turn on the individual, the individual would often call out to Jesus for help or rebuke the demons in the name of Jesus Christ and the demons would flee. It comes as no surprise that most people are ignorant of the fact that all of this that I am sharing with you in this comment is actually warned to us in the bible. For those who are truely open to discerning objective truth still, here are some of the scriptures that warn us about the war and deceptions that we should expect in the spiritual realm and the truth we see before us and experience to testify of: Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. John 14:6 NASB For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. EPHESIANS 6:12 NASB They sacrificed to demons who were not God, To gods whom they have not known, New gods who came lately, Whom your fathers did not dread. You neglected the Rock who begot you, And forgot the God who gave you birth. Deuteronomy 32:17‭-‬18 NASB What do I mean then? That a thing sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? No, but I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons. 1 Corinthians 10:19‭-‬20 NASB No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds. 2 CORINTHIANS 11:14‭-‬15 NASB Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world. 1 John 4:1‭-‬3 NASB Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow , of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:5‭-‬11 NASB It is because I have looked into these matters openly and found that all roads point to Jesus Christ that I don't want to share all this with those who may read it without saying the following... I invite anyone who wants to have a true relationship with Jesus Christ to pray and invite Him into their hearts as their Lord and Savior. The Bible teaches us that we have all sinned and that our sin has a cost, and that cost is death. Our sin defiles us and seperates us from our Holy God but Jesus who is God, and lived a perfectly sinless life paid for that sin himself of his own free will so that we can come home to Him... but we must first accept that sacrifice and give ourselves freely to the Lord. There is not much to this... it just takes repenting of your sins to God and believing and receiving that Jesus paid the sacrifice "for you" and to follow Him from this point on. We have hope in his ressurection because as he rose again to be with the Father, we who place our trust in Him will do likewise. The bible tells us this: that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.” Romans 10:9‭-‬11 NASB1995

[@razony]

The bible has teachings that have been raped by interpretation's from some very BAD people. And some good. Some! The bible is stagnant. Dark ages mythology and takes people no where. Reading the same verses over and over, fighting over what it means for nearly 1,400 years. NDE's are here for a reason. Something is being said and it's pretty universal. It's all about LOVE. Religion complicates it...badly!

[@wheretruthleads]

@@razony the thing is NDEs are not universal. They contradict. No one who believes in objective truth can say two contradictory things can both be true. I also do not think your assessment of Christianity being dark age mythology is a justifiable position. Everything I have found when considering truth points me to Christianity actually being true.

[@razony]

@@wheretruthleads They contradict what? That their all not the same, as in Humanity is not all the same?

[@wheretruthleads]

@@razony humans are all the same in the sense that they fit into the category of homosapiens. If I tell you that dogs are actually humans and someone else says no, dogs are not humans you have a contradiction and both can not be right. People that have NDEs of going to hell because they did not accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior from their own sin contradicts NDEs that describe a universal heaven where everyone goes when they die. Both can not be true which means you are left with spiritual experiences that are being used to lead people away from the truth. This is what the bible warns us about which no small coincidence.

[@cindychristman8708]

@ Brandon Ball--//The Bible teaches us that we have all sinned and that our sin has a cost, and that cost is death. Our sin defiles us and seperates us from our Holy God but Jesus who is God, and lived a perfectly sinless life paid for that sin himself of his own free will so that we can come home to Him...// IF we didn't sin , would we still die? IF God lived a perfectly sinless life, how could he possibly die?

[@theastrosloth9661]

I admire Cameron and Gary for not giving into laughter. I would have laughed hysterically. Some of the words Dr. Eben words reminds me of that SNL of when those people were being interviewed if they’re alien abductions.

[@jabster58]

Well if his story is for real ..you would be mocking god... if god did indeed reveal himself to him..

[@theastrosloth9661]

@@jabster58 Maybe so. I do not intend to mock God but rather express how my humanness would be unfiltered. Some claims (though they may be true) are puzzling to the human mind and provoke unprepared reactions. I do believe most of these experiences are grounded in reality so I do apologize for seeming to discredit this particular experience

[@rolinolandi]

Gary Habermas, I believe is a Christian and there is nothing wrong with that. However, reincarnation does not exist in the Christian paradigm. However, we love him anyway. We need all points of view.

[@decomposegaming]

Haven't finished the video yet but there was a point in the video where he says reincarnation is false he didn't say it was true

[@haroldstuttler8318]

Do they believe in hell

[@raulmoat2570]

he talks about prayer. but prayer to who ? allah, jesus, buddha, hindu gods ? who ?? and how comes this guy didnt see jesus in heaven in his NDE ? or the god of the bible, with jesus sitting on the right side of the throne ?

[@AWalkOnDirt]

NDE, as presented in the video, is on the same level of reasonableness as alien abductions. The comments on healing are especially troublesome. It’s real interesting subject however.

[@pdxnikki1]

Please do more research. NDE's are evidence based.

[@jabster58]

@@pdxnikki1 isn't it amazing how stupid people can be..they don't even realize how ignorant they sound especially with someone who actually studied nde..it seems like were surrounded by narrow minded people..lol

[@Talvimies]

Well, interesting start but then.... what was all that "one with godness"-thing? Sounds awful lot like new age. Talk about misinterpreting ones experience.

[@Aidica40]

If you read his book, you will know that the goddess from his NDE is his biological (he was adopted) sister that had passed and he never met.

[@fireballxl-5748]

Don't care for Eben at all. I'm here to hear Gary Habermas.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

An NDE is what the brain produces spontaneously or when under the influence of a drug, such as anesthesia or facing injury or death. A tunnel of light, a meeting with a dead loved one or holy book character, or an out of the body experience are the most common NDE's all of which occur within the neural circuits of your brain. You Tube has provided a platform for people to enthusiastically describe these brain induced life changing experiences

[@calebcrawford2520]

Except you can't explain how people found out information that they had no clue of prior to having an out of body experience, NDE's really just prove there is an afterlife.. Keep in mind that there are no brain waves or heart beats. The person is physically dead, so brain activity is impossible.

[@patticarey9016]

Reincarnation???? ❌❌❌

[@razony]

Reincarnation happens. Just not everyone is reincarnated.

[@ericcollins6231]

This was honestly a bit awful. Eben tended to ramble quite a bit. And there towards the end it was a long tangent claiming libel. But I think one “doth protest too much.” It’s interesting that his entire response was ad hominem. Directed at esquire and the author. Seeking to attack the man to discredit the article rather than the points in them. And the constant protesting and repeating - It seems very telling. If it was such a clear cut case of libel, he should sue. And then Gary, just refused to engage in any meaningful way. Clearly with NDE’s and Christian belief, there is a big issue and question at hand. - If NDE’s are sufficient evidence of an afterlife, then this means we believe they are actually experiencing said afterlife. But if they are actually experiencing the afterlife, then what does it mean when their experiences contradict each other or more importantly contradict Christian dogma? If Eben’s experience was real - where was Jesus? And why was He absent from paradise? And why was his great lesson reincarnation? Why do most NDE’s lead to a Unitarian type belief? To bring any of that into question, is to bring the experience itself into question. But if you bring the experience itself into question, then the idea of NDE’s being evidence of an afterlife is in question. All of this went completely avoided and unacknowledged. As he refused to engage in the issue of reincarnation or any points of disagreement.

[@Cassim125]

Yup as far as I can tell ndes dont fit in with christian doctrines