Eberhard Weber - Colours Quartet Live 1976

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@alcorton
@alcorton Ай бұрын
A posthumous work by Lyle Mays called "Eberhard" has recently been released. There is a musical sense that links the two. This kind of atmospheric, somewhat symphonic jazz has been the indelible mark of ECM records. In my opinion, this musical form has been as revolutionary as Impressionism was at the beginning of the 20th century. It is a sensitive journey that is the ultimate expression of what a composer can do when working subtly with layers of sound. A unique work.
@victorleelewis
@victorleelewis 15 күн бұрын
agreed. Terje Rypdal, Ralph Towner, Jan Gabarek, Keith Jarrett (of course!)! tangentially, did you know that the Koln concert almost didn't happen because the piano was broken. it wasn't mc placement that made the pedals and mechanics so prominent in the music. the instrument was f*cked, an Keith initially refused to do the concert, altogether. it was a post-11pm show, too. a touch of grace.
@alcorton
@alcorton 15 күн бұрын
@victorleelewis Yes. Keith Jarret is a real singularity. Probably the most creative musical mind on XX, XXI century. Terje Rypdal and Jan Garbarek are two magicians, bringing escential sounds. I know Jarrett's accident on Koln...
@renakmans3521
@renakmans3521 Жыл бұрын
An historic band that should be studied and digested more by young jazzers.
@kostishasopoulos9816
@kostishasopoulos9816 6 ай бұрын
i would like to counter-argument. Any band with Paul Chambers should be studies and digested by jazzers for precision, feel, time, rythm and especially harmonic approach. Then one could reach rurther into other realms. Moderns listening to these and studying these first and almost, only these sounds, these more ''free'' and ''adventurous'' sounds almost always lack IT that cannot be described, that whicth does not fill you as a listener.
@renakmans3521
@renakmans3521 6 ай бұрын
@@kostishasopoulos9816 You’re conflating a lot of stuff in my words…I never said forget about the masters…you’re imposing your own experience. Nothing can replace pre 70’s music but if one doesn’t listen to more, they’ll be stuck in history.
@kostishasopoulos9816
@kostishasopoulos9816 Ай бұрын
@@renakmans3521 indeed but what happens is the past is often ignored, thus the lack of feel, time, swing and the less-sis-more mentality of the new generation musicians. Everyone is hot on avant-garde because it feels less restrictive but one must be on top of his game with restrictions (dense chord changes) and then move onto more free less dense ones. I'm not conflicting your words. I make a statement. This is a historic band that demands more attention, that is true.
@renakmans3521
@renakmans3521 Ай бұрын
@@kostishasopoulos9816 I totally agree. I think also the prob is exposure to great music. There is so much to weed through these days that one will get burnt out and never reach someone like Weber. Seriously I’ve heard quite a bit of current jazz music and there are a lot of great players but not a lot of great composers IMO.
@kostishasopoulos9816
@kostishasopoulos9816 Ай бұрын
@@renakmans3521 On new composers, Check out Christian Sands the Pianist. He played with Christian McBride trio (phenomenal newer generation talent). His personal work is fantastic and something fresh.
@jonsmith848
@jonsmith848 Жыл бұрын
Great Classic ECM Lineup...Rainer Bruninghaus is so tasteful
@ajadrew
@ajadrew 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Eberhard Weber with Jan Garbarek in Bristol, England probably in the 80's - love the ECM sound!
@sandynahar7667
@sandynahar7667 Жыл бұрын
This is so nice Eberhard Weber Manfred Bruninghaus
@giuseppeg.8461
@giuseppeg.8461 Жыл бұрын
Mesmerising. Thank you for this. Silent Feet is my favourite piece of music of all times. It's great to see these masters in action.
@danehlers9989
@danehlers9989 2 жыл бұрын
Man this whole thing is fantastic. Eberhard Weber's sound is what always got me to pay attention to this kind of music to begin with and I'm looking for more music like this since I picked up Colours of Chloe on a whim. I remember hearing various music late night on the radio and always waiting to see who was playing what and writing it down on a list of things I'd like to find one day. This was way before instant information and cell phones existed so when I walked into the music store I'd eventually spend hours in, I found the ECM label area and going only by names of the musicians I randomly grabbed The Colours of Chloe by Eberhard Schoener and Jan Garbarek's It's Okay to Listen to the Gray Voice and I was a winner!! I'm so glad I was born when I was because so many gems have been made during my lifetime and this is just one genre!!
@charlescoe5315
@charlescoe5315 Жыл бұрын
This music will live forever. "Life is short, art is long..."
@stevenignelzi9257
@stevenignelzi9257 7 ай бұрын
Ars longa, vita brevis!
@michaelvolkel5714
@michaelvolkel5714 2 жыл бұрын
It is truly amazing to follow these 4 genius musicians in their performance. Eberhard Weber made a MAIN musical impact for me back in the time when I was about 16yo. And it still gives me shivers.
@margaretnewbold7186
@margaretnewbold7186 Жыл бұрын
Love this. My brother asked for the album for Christmas and I always listen to whatever he chooses. Fabulous. Several influences and great musicians. I’m converted.
@docnelson2008
@docnelson2008 4 жыл бұрын
A classic ECM band from the 70s. It is sad that Charlie and Jon are no longer with us RIP. Despite being much older than the others (53 years) in Colours, Charlie made wonderful and creative contributions to the music. A fine band in every respect and a terrific upload-thank you.
@marcomir27
@marcomir27 2 жыл бұрын
Charlie had an incredible presence in the set.
@victorleelewis
@victorleelewis 3 жыл бұрын
once again, i am stricken with nostalgia. my high school chum and i were a private nerd cult of ECM enthusiasts and we both had to have this. it is so nice. thank you. this really takes me back.
@danvaught5905
@danvaught5905 15 күн бұрын
Same here! This quartet was fantastic. Saw them in Mpls. in summer/1979 at the Guthrie Little Theatre sans Jon Christensen. Would have loved to see him play drums live! Still a memory making performance!
@brunomeyer4163
@brunomeyer4163 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Cameraman, there is also a drummer in this band. A really good one ! Jon Christensen 🙏
@jonathanedwards8696
@jonathanedwards8696 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite.
@alejandrooscarrodriguezsar3436
@alejandrooscarrodriguezsar3436 3 жыл бұрын
yes!!
@peterweise3836
@peterweise3836 3 жыл бұрын
@@alejandrooscarrodriguezsar3436 Out of all european (jazz) drummers he was the best til yet. I like him the most, his interaction and his ever mutating rhythms are without comparison always fitting the music he was part of. Records like Jarrett's "Belonging' are also very good examples of his great musical capability. This concert is it too.
@alejandrooscarrodriguezsar3436
@alejandrooscarrodriguezsar3436 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterweise3836 ,muchas gracias.Buen dato el cd de Keith!!!
@danvaught5905
@danvaught5905 3 жыл бұрын
INDEED! A legend!
@marcomir27
@marcomir27 2 жыл бұрын
These guys are playing so well, effortlessly ! The set doesn't feel dated at all... Keyboards and bass are sounding big too.
@1654106
@1654106 3 жыл бұрын
You are immortal Charlie
@clt8762
@clt8762 4 жыл бұрын
I listened to Jon Christensen for the firts time on the Yellow Fields record of the huge Eberhard Weber in 1978. "Touch", the first tune went straight to my heart and mind, it carries its title well, and felt backwards when discovering this drummer. In these years of "big artillery" i heard a musician playing drums on a binary rythm with tact, fluidity, melodic sens and diversity of timbre without repetitiv loudness. It was a shock and a major influence. Yellow Fields is a bedside record for me with others where Jon is present. Jon Christensen's disappearance is a great loss to the music and to me in particular. A huge thank you Mr Christensen.
@dagostinoification
@dagostinoification 4 жыл бұрын
idem pour moi ! Ami !
@ciromaia9748
@ciromaia9748 4 жыл бұрын
I love this weird jazz stuff, so trippy!
@lukeparnell5572
@lukeparnell5572 2 жыл бұрын
Eberhard really makes an electric upright sing. The tone is immaculate. Definitely the best sound I’ve ever heard out of one.
@sebastianlunoe
@sebastianlunoe 7 ай бұрын
I never knew Rainer Brüninghaus played this good. Really excellent playing here!
@nicolasn5226
@nicolasn5226 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best european jazz group in these years. Jon Christensen is a fantastic drummer. Thanks !
@dagostinoification
@dagostinoification 4 жыл бұрын
yes !!!!
@victorleelewis
@victorleelewis 3 жыл бұрын
jon chritstensen and jack dejohnette -- my favorites of the era.
@PatrickManzecchi
@PatrickManzecchi 2 жыл бұрын
@@victorleelewis Yup. And I might add also Daniel Humair, Bob Moses, Billy Hart and Bruce Ditmas.
@paxwallace8324
@paxwallace8324 7 ай бұрын
Well I think this as well as Tejre Rypdal's better projects like "Waves" took the original more subtle pre-Jaco Weather Report trajectory further.
@bridude2001
@bridude2001 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic concert from one of the best bands of the time,especially great is Jon Chistensen’s contribution. RIP
@melvynbooker1058
@melvynbooker1058 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this, it is great. When I originally bought “Yellow Fields” Charlie Mariano seemed an old man to me.. Now I see the interview at the end and he is like a young man to me! Although 44 years has passed, the music is timeless and still inspires.
@aymericleroy8500
@aymericleroy8500 Жыл бұрын
16. International Jazz Festival (MIJF), Molde (Norway), 14 September 1976.
@philfryberger7197
@philfryberger7197 4 жыл бұрын
In the interview Charlie Mariano references a tour they were to go on that October.... I saw that tour in Boulder CO, October of 1976
@ninovasev
@ninovasev 2 жыл бұрын
what a musical experience it is,....like a travel through the land of beauty and love
@TheMikelbaigo
@TheMikelbaigo 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Jon Christensen delicate and talent drummer....
@carlosmcinerney8792
@carlosmcinerney8792 4 жыл бұрын
RIP
@shawnbruce6934
@shawnbruce6934 7 ай бұрын
This is Fantastic!
@lucianovargas6677
@lucianovargas6677 3 жыл бұрын
A great band sadly almost forgotten.
@KingfisherLtd
@KingfisherLtd 4 жыл бұрын
Eberhard Weber is the one and only electric upright bass player who doesn't sound cheesy. I really like his pastel playing.
@standalowen
@standalowen 3 жыл бұрын
I believe I commented about this in another wonderful human being who posted Eberhard. He was instrumental in the development of the Electric Five-String Upright Bass. I'm not sure if he had it on his first album. I don't think so. It makes his songwriting and being able to play, almost lead, like guitar and piano. Charlie Haden one of my other favorites.
@normanhirschfeld3823
@normanhirschfeld3823 3 жыл бұрын
On his first album he used both acoustic and his electric 5 string.
@pedroberoes49
@pedroberoes49 3 жыл бұрын
Eberhard Weber takes the word "bass god" to a whole new place Great players, great show something futuristic i would say, but not in a predictable way, in a way where no one knows what the future will be.
@louisef.9137
@louisef.9137 Жыл бұрын
Excellent musicians...great tunes!
@2010auguste
@2010auguste 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic quality of this broadcast. Compliments!
@trevorelliston1
@trevorelliston1 6 ай бұрын
EW is one of my favourite musicians (along with Reiner Bruninghaus) and Yellow Fioelds is one of my favourite LP’s . This is great.
@BryanMaxDobberstein
@BryanMaxDobberstein 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the cinematographer for their almost religious dedication to closeups.
@Dom__777
@Dom__777 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@Daniel_Zalman
@Daniel_Zalman 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@cassiusnolan2851
@cassiusnolan2851 3 жыл бұрын
I know Im kinda randomly asking but does anybody know of a good site to watch newly released series online ?
@maddenlanden5386
@maddenlanden5386 3 жыл бұрын
@Cassius Nolan try Flixzone. Just google for it =)
@markofsaltburn
@markofsaltburn 3 жыл бұрын
😀😀😀
@carterhorsley3180
@carterhorsley3180 4 жыл бұрын
What a great video of this magnificent composition. I had no idea Eberhard was ever young but knew he was timeless.
@OlegMisiyan
@OlegMisiyan 4 жыл бұрын
Очень здорово, от души BRAVO! Господи, в какое хорошее время мы живем.
@standalowen
@standalowen 3 жыл бұрын
Now, now. Be nice. Eberhard's vibe, songs emit global harmony. Drummers understand. Thanks for this wonderful live post. My albums are all a remnant. All 500 of them.
@gugasgigs
@gugasgigs Жыл бұрын
really great performance
@dagostinoification
@dagostinoification 4 жыл бұрын
Un des meilleurs concerts de JAZZ MODERNE DE CES ANNées là ! jon Christensen ,un des meilleurs batteurs de ce style de tous les temps ! LABEL ECM DE MANFRED EICHER UN PRODUCTEUR DE génie !
@danguee1
@danguee1 2 жыл бұрын
What an extraordinary gem this is. I saw EW and his band (maybe with Garbarek?) in Kentish Town in the early 80s. I was blown away by the music - some of which was the most rockingest, groovy fusion bass I'd ever heard. But then didn't follow up and listen to more of him.... Why?! Don't know. But at least now yt has put me back in touch. I will listen to more! Beautiful stuff...
@accidentalfilms
@accidentalfilms Жыл бұрын
Love this music.
@waynedickens2806
@waynedickens2806 2 жыл бұрын
When you remember you have a degree in music composition from Dartington. and then you listen to this and think sod it
@harmonicres
@harmonicres 2 жыл бұрын
Pure gold! Thank you for this very rare footage. Lovely to see the talented Weber with his entourage.
@reverendbarker650
@reverendbarker650 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding !
@stanisawzagorski6317
@stanisawzagorski6317 3 жыл бұрын
To solo na końcu zniewalające i całość rewelacyjna i niesamowita
@germanbarros7115
@germanbarros7115 5 ай бұрын
Que maravilla poder ver la ejecución de éste legendario álbum.!
@ximenagormazespinoza2329
@ximenagormazespinoza2329 4 ай бұрын
Siiiiiii
@dagostinoification
@dagostinoification 4 жыл бұрын
Merveille !!! Ion christensen /drums , magnificent musicians !!!! Yellow fields album fantastic !
@rodrigocubillos3859
@rodrigocubillos3859 4 жыл бұрын
toda mi juventud en esta musica....super!!!!!
@TorySlusher
@TorySlusher 3 жыл бұрын
Strange how this almost has a contemporary sound...
@davidbriole5507
@davidbriole5507 3 жыл бұрын
L' age d' or du label ECM et au-delà. Quatre musiciens au style unique et inoubliable dont un : EBERHARD WEBER COMPOSITEUR de génie.
@thewordofgord
@thewordofgord 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. A delight for fans such as myself.
@christopherislas2425
@christopherislas2425 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks 4 share!
@bandhigi
@bandhigi 3 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic collection!
@normanhirschfeld3823
@normanhirschfeld3823 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic post! Thank you very much 🌝
@emshirtgrinder
@emshirtgrinder Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@daviddunaway4218
@daviddunaway4218 2 жыл бұрын
Love this post! I’ve worn out my original vinyl of this band!
@pmaringe
@pmaringe 4 жыл бұрын
Quel magnifique document... Music at this level improves its listeners. Merci de l'upload !
@nikolaosmosxakis3395
@nikolaosmosxakis3395 2 жыл бұрын
very good.....................................
@grantjamieson4291
@grantjamieson4291 4 жыл бұрын
This has riveted me.!
@westrig180
@westrig180 2 жыл бұрын
Superb session. The interview at the end is really special !
@Jojo-be3cf
@Jojo-be3cf 5 жыл бұрын
-- 25:52 -- Rhodes -- 32:32 -- Drums
@billstoye3628
@billstoye3628 4 жыл бұрын
Great camera editing, too! Good close ups and choices, as well as great sound and playing - outstanding!! Thank you 🙏🏼
@kevinganyuen4390
@kevinganyuen4390 4 жыл бұрын
Love the interview at the end. What a gem upload, thank you!
@isivip1
@isivip1 Жыл бұрын
Just listen Jon drumming approx from 29’ with the bass . Consider we are nearly 50 years ago and if today can appear quite usual those Times it was a totally innovative melodic- rithmyc way to play the drums , years before any other .
@neilloughran4437
@neilloughran4437 5 жыл бұрын
It's just as well these videos are up on KZbin as NRK have removed many of them from their site.
@Tuxedo2680
@Tuxedo2680 3 жыл бұрын
Sand Glass segues right into Yellow Fields and as far as I can tell, this does not occur at 20:15 but rather around 18:30
@BibiAudiofil2
@BibiAudiofil2 3 жыл бұрын
thank you ! info updated :)
@polobede9054
@polobede9054 5 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup pour ce beau concert ! ! L'après 1968 ! ! ! , le rock progressif est né et comme par hasard , Manfred Eicher passe par là ! ! . Sourire
@fotojazzeando
@fotojazzeando 4 жыл бұрын
Excelente! Muchas gracias por compartir.
@samissomar
@samissomar 4 жыл бұрын
Great live Jazzz...Masters !...
@raphaelhaubourdin9665
@raphaelhaubourdin9665 9 ай бұрын
fantastique
@eyelidman09
@eyelidman09 4 жыл бұрын
I saw this band on tour in the UK in 1980’s. An incredible group of jazz musicians. Charlie Mariano is no longer with us and Eberhard Weber does not perform since having a stroke.
@raydennis1946
@raydennis1946 4 жыл бұрын
FunkyFlunky I saw Eberhard Weber’s Colours on that 1980s tour in a small jazz club in Sheffield. We all had a drink together at the bar during the interval. I had no idea this would change my life! I have all Weber’s albums and have seen him play in various line ups and spoken to him and other band members on a few occasions since. I moved to work at the university of Brighton in 1989 where The 30th anniversary celebration of Manfred Eicher’s ECM record label was held some years later with an exhibition of cover artworks and a jazz festival! Quite a coincidence. Terrible to think we won’t hear them play together ever again.
@eyelidman09
@eyelidman09 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Ray. I agree it is terrible to think we won’t see them play together again - but at least we can say we did hear them play. Eberhard Weber kindly sent me scores of his music, and was so gracious. Like you, numerous gigs in small clubs were life changing for me also. Some 44 years later, and I’m still listening to jazz as a result of seeing one gig - all before many of these amazing British and European jazz musicians’ got the recognition they truly deserved. Halcyon days.🙏🌞🇬🇧🙏
@k1ltro
@k1ltro 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Lost all my ECM vinyls so it's fantastic to find this.
@MrThomas1958
@MrThomas1958 3 жыл бұрын
thx
@Beowulf_93
@Beowulf_93 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody understood bossa nova bass lines better than him. DANKE MEISTER for the work with Baden powell.
@sysmch
@sysmch 4 жыл бұрын
Saw this band in Switzerland, Solothurn jazz festival. 1976 Can't remember if it was Christensen or Marshall on drums at the concert, but I believe it was Jon.
@jonathanedwards8696
@jonathanedwards8696 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this band with John. I was disappointed it wasn't Jon.
@billstoye3628
@billstoye3628 4 жыл бұрын
And a little Oregon sounding at times.
@robscheps7722
@robscheps7722 4 жыл бұрын
Great band
@hornsby5533
@hornsby5533 3 жыл бұрын
Wie oft lag diese Platte auf meinem Plattenspieler...... :-)
@fisicauniversitaria
@fisicauniversitaria 3 ай бұрын
Genial
@victorleelewis
@victorleelewis 15 күн бұрын
while the dumb jocks at Ohio University were blasting Peter Frampton comes alive, the cool kids win the freshmen dormitory ere rocking Eberhard Weber, and blasting the Koln Concert and Keith Jarrett's "Solo Concert." or Ralph Towner. we also had the best drugs. oh, Jon Christensen, though. so fresh, so clean.
@lwskiner
@lwskiner Жыл бұрын
Great sounding group, wonder if they ever shared the stage with Oregon?
@arnowinkelmann9495
@arnowinkelmann9495 Жыл бұрын
They did not unfortunately
@biometria_hematica
@biometria_hematica 2 жыл бұрын
did you notice that they were playing a quarter tone down in the whole concert?
@peterasaro1914
@peterasaro1914 3 жыл бұрын
Teutonic and Norwegian jazz!
@georgekapalka
@georgekapalka 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing footage of great music from the 1970's. Thanks for posting it. Any way to fix the audio sync problems?
@BibiAudiofil2
@BibiAudiofil2 3 жыл бұрын
I can do that, but that will be another video. I noticed too late after i published that ( i wasn't expecting this, it was an old video that i considered good to go ) :(
@natekalnitzbass9446
@natekalnitzbass9446 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the first tune is called? It’s so cool but I can’t find it anywhere else :(
@zappazapidappasoo
@zappazapidappasoo 4 жыл бұрын
Nate Kalnitz Bass yes me too I can’t find it!
@BibiAudiofil2
@BibiAudiofil2 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, it sounds like "Sand-Glass" from the "Yellow Fields" album
@zappazapidappasoo
@zappazapidappasoo 4 жыл бұрын
BibiAudiofil2 thanks I got it now and love it all!
@keith9482
@keith9482 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4uqdKGPjp5qZqc Bibbi and Nate , thank you also👍🏻👍🏻Friends, I stumbled upon this interesting character who dissects and reacts to great music 😊he has an eclectic taste you might enjoy!!
@keith9482
@keith9482 4 жыл бұрын
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@homeyleclerk4632
@homeyleclerk4632 Жыл бұрын
Always give the drummer some
@mattendahl2236
@mattendahl2236 4 жыл бұрын
20:15 Chicken Chicane, aka Yellow Fields
@BibiAudiofil2
@BibiAudiofil2 4 жыл бұрын
thank you
@drdalewisely
@drdalewisely 3 жыл бұрын
So few good videos of Eberhard Weber playing live. Great sound on this one...great performance...but the camerawork is horrible.
@jiyujizai
@jiyujizai 4 жыл бұрын
😃🌱💛🌷
@jiyujizai
@jiyujizai 2 жыл бұрын
💙🌱🌾🙄
@ElEcodelTren
@ElEcodelTren 4 жыл бұрын
esele cristofer
@thekriskokid
@thekriskokid 4 жыл бұрын
The music is great, but I can't help but thinking...When does the cobra come out of the basket? What's up with sitting on the floor?
@jonathanedwards8696
@jonathanedwards8696 3 жыл бұрын
This music is great modern jazz. Try not to show your immaturity.
@arnowinkelmann9495
@arnowinkelmann9495 3 жыл бұрын
Charlie was studying the nadaswaram and he was playing it in the traditional posture.
@bennievargas2673
@bennievargas2673 Жыл бұрын
​@@arnowinkelmann9495 nailed it
@k1ltro
@k1ltro 4 жыл бұрын
Is that Bruninghaus at the KBs? Don't sound like him.
@BibiAudiofil2
@BibiAudiofil2 4 жыл бұрын
Yesssir, it is :)
@trevorelliston1
@trevorelliston1 6 ай бұрын
From the live stuff I have heard he is different live to the Studio - can be a lot funkier. I think in someways he is a better improvisor than Eberhard Weber.
@nanowhite6062
@nanowhite6062 4 жыл бұрын
imposible
@barrybecker3706
@barrybecker3706 10 ай бұрын
The camera work is awful. Ugh. IMHO But the music and musicianship is stellar!!!
@jeannettesimpson9778
@jeannettesimpson9778 2 жыл бұрын
Melts into a pile of goo.
@brianoconnell41
@brianoconnell41 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful document of an amazing band but sadly it is out of sync.
@BibiAudiofil2
@BibiAudiofil2 2 жыл бұрын
i will try to sync and reupload
@jeffyowell
@jeffyowell 4 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic clip. Just great, except for the stupid naive interviewer at the end.
@jayblummer146
@jayblummer146 2 жыл бұрын
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