I Bought A Cheap ELECTRIC Tractor From China (Big Mistake!)

[@EbikeSchool]

To paraphrase Mark Twain, sorry for the long video, if I had more time I would have made a shorter edit! Also, while this one didn't pass the test, if you want to see my good loaders go to www.nesherequipment.com and for the record, I DID check the hydraulic fluid, you guys can stop telling me it sounds empty.

[@hughrs]

Do you have a link to this machine? I like it

[@Homested_Happenings]

I enjoy longer videos, myself

[@ecospider5]

I would like a link to this one. If it’s cheap enough it would work for me.

[@zchapman185]

Your good loader electric at 20k and only 1400 lbs capacity price vs capabilities is useless. Maybe 15k but for that I'd go diesel and get 1 ton and to my door for 18k...I wish you good luck!

[@hughstratton8767]

opinions are like assholes... everyones got one... he is just doing a review bud take it ez 🤦‍♂️​@zchapman185

[@Mitchell.A]

I’m screaming “check hydraulic fluid!” The whole video.

[@mikep490]

I was thinking, "read the manual". Some equipment ship w/o oil in the gear box. Who takes equipment out of the box and uses it w/o charging the battery and giving it a full check over? (Answer: My friend who burned the diff out on his new rototiller... no gear oil in the box.)

[@bertsteele139]

Thank you! That’s what I was going to say.

[@EShirako]

Yeah, I just got to the 'sand tipping' portion and decided that if there really was no checking of hydraulic fluid nor charging of the shipped batteries that this is at BEST a display of Chinese metal-folding, not really a useful demo of the obviously-craptastic quality of the work put into the device. And if those batteries moved when you were 'arse-up' in the sand-pile, you might have gotten to enjoy shorting those things out when they slid around, and they wouldn't have helped with the balance of the device either. Normally I'd stick around and watch a whole video, but this time I don't feel like I'm learning anything except that "Men not reading instructions and not worrying about anything about the operation of the device" is just as pointless and useless as it ever has been, this time it's just "useless with a tractor". I'm done. I'll have to wonder if I should watch ANY of this guy's other stuff...I can get 'No idea, didn't think about anything, and didn't read the manual either' videos from Tiktok.

[@relaaaxingchanel3000]

Noobs

[@GodzillaSVTMACH1]

I was laughing the whole time! 😅

[@DoRullings]

Your dad's remark: "Get a light one." at 20:42 got me literarily to laug out loud. My father and I had the same kind of humor, and I miss him so much. Cherish every moment you have with your dad while you can. ❤

[@johnjordan3126]

Loved having your dad participating in this one - he has an eye for the obvious. :-) Great comments!

[@richardfrisby6913]

20.05 There's no positive here son.😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@richardfrisby6913]

You would have to rebuild this one for it to be worth buying. The other machines are much better for actually doing work 🙂.

[@akhtarkh]

Do you have enough hydraulic oil? It sounds like your hyd pumps are cavitating.

[@nicksfans]

Make sure there's fluid in the diffs, too.

[@RWBHere]

Filled with water, perhaps?

[@dippst]

@@RWBHere probably. i mean, it IS nuclear green.

[@KuryakinIllya]

It's a good thing that the "hood" is stuck in place, so it didn't act like an ejection seat when the rear wheels popped into the air!

[@jimrt1738]

Take out the electric motor and put a predator diesel in it 😂😂. Electric over Hydraulic change to Diesel over Hydraulic.

[@CBD-Life-South-Africa]

Sounds like it needs more hydraulic fluid. Side note That sand is damp plus compacted, and its easy 400kg+

[@Jacobtheunwise]

Yep straight up sounded like the pump was full of air or something

[@cyumadbrosummit3534]

Nope that's just how they sound.

[@deagle50ae]

Come to think of it, it does sound like my Subaru's power steering pump after it's all leaked out.

[@Elkarlo77]

I think it doesn't have a good expansion reservoir most likely not an inline. Everyone here is right, it sounds like a system which got airbubbles in the system because it has no place where to bleed the air to. So thats how they sound. After the shipping there might be air in the system, and the system IS leaking oil at the ramms. Without a propper reservoir the system will leak more. In a normal system you have a Reservoir with an intake and outake line. Intake high Outtake at the bottom, fillercap at the top so the pump gets good airless oil from the outtake. In a Cheap System you have only the Bottom Outtake which doubles as intake. Which means that you cycle the Air in the Pipes back and forth, in a normal system you will bleed the system after 20-40 minutes working and it will quiet down. Bleeding this System is astrocious hard and any leak like at the rams will work air over time to the Pump again, without bleed inlet in a reservoir.

[@megape95]

Sounds like the pump is not getting enough oil, a bigger sunction line will help if it is too small..ususally the chinese junk is all too small.

[@NathanielHatley]

I liked the "plastic only, no steel!" on the bandsaw while you're cutting that steel axle. 😂

[@micahsdad5388]

Yeah - truth be told the blade was changed after I bought it. But good eye for detail. regards

[@John.strong]

@@micahsdad5388 plus normally an axle is harderned, I'd like to know what blade your running on that

[@micahsdad5388]

@@John.strong It wasn't hardened steel. It was indeed used an axle but a light application where that rod was just 3/4" steel bar stock. It was part of a garden cart I built a LONG time ago. regards

[@nexiabiamp]

You must be new here

[@motionsick]

I have "no steel" written on my bandsaw lol.

[@Scott924m]

A few things I thought !. the pump has no limiters it seems to keep trying to force fluid regardless of the fact the machine has reached it physical limit like when your force a cars power steering past its turning point the pump starts straining. 2. I didn't see you ever check the fluid level on camera which you might have but if not consider this , it may be low or have bad fluid given the low quality of the other parts they could have used some "other" fluid, try changing it with quality hydraulic fluid .

[@RyanMercer]

Those sounds, oof.

[@bewilderbeestie]

If your electric vehicle requires hearing protection to use, you're not doing electric properly!

[@EbikeSchool]

Yea I was shocked when I first turned the key... though I guess you could see that in the video!

[@nijasty]

You'll need to speak up sorry - I can't hear you over the noise

[@ecospider5]

I expect the noise is the hydraulic pump. But even that shouldn’t be so noisy

[@AlexKall]

Yeah, it's nails on a chalkboard type sound.

[@johnnodge4327]

Replace the cotter pins (split pins in the UK) with R clips, which just pull out and push back in.

[@user-neo71665]

R clips are often called hair pins in the US and I agree. Greatings from Arkansas, thanks for teaching me a new term. My dad was a heavy diesel mechanic my whole life and I grew up in a shop. I've never heard em called r clips but it makes sense if you look at one.

[@normanwyatt8761]

I usually plant 25 to 50 tomato plants every spring and i'm wondering if buying one of these to use in my planting would be like overkill.......I'm 90 YEARS old and can't do much digging.......When i'm not digging I could probably use it to drive around the nudist colony where I live.......

[@harveycreekin]

Well,....there goes my appetite 😂

[@cho4d]

this comment took a sharp turn 🤣

[@happilyham6769]

Joe Biden? That you?

[@melvinnoble8552]

😆😅🤣❤

[@russwoodward8251]

Get the Lesher 880 model. It even picks up it's own bucket without you having to get up from the seat. You can let the folks at the commune ride in the bucket, use it to move the rolling bin to the end of the drive, plant tomatoes, trees, fence posts, what ever, and it doubles as a snow plow.

[@MoosesValley]

05:04: Sorry for the nitpick: they are Split Pins, not Cotter Pins. Cotter Pins have a wedge shape so that they wedge and secure more tightly as you tighten them. Cotter Pins are used in places like the pedal cranks on a push bike.

[@campervanmark3410]

Right on

[@scummyinoz]

ill 2nd that

[@L0NE1W0LF_]

Sorry but thats not true, depends on the way you look at it really. I mean in the uk cotter and split pins be the same just have different types like an rtype split cotter pin Edit: sorry made a mistake that i shant fix, depending on where you live depends on what you refer to it as so in the U.S it is a cotter pin but in the U.K or land down under its a split pin

[@GntlTch]

Not in my book. Nor in ISO, DIN or UNI specs. A cotter pin is AKA a split pin. The wedge shaped pin used for hammer or axe handles is simply called a hammer wedge.

[@hktrader88]

Put your money into a China Visa and a flight to go see these @ the factory BEFORE purchasing.......I've been working with & visiting China factories for nearly 30 years. Seeing is believing ! Also, it is true that you can (usually) spec exactly what you want, but many times you need to provide down to the small details (eg gromitts on through holes).

[@WesleySnlpes]

I've heard stories of people doing exactly this. They get shown a high quality product which they ordered only to get junk quality when they finally receive them. Very sneaky tactics from some of those factories

[@WowCreativeUsername]

@@WesleySnlpes Or like one factory that the customer sent in boxes of high grade, high temp plastic pellets. The factory sold the pellets and just used cheap regular ones instead causing the part to fail.

[@peterfehr7441]

You are missing the point, this is content material and a belly laugh for his dad😅😅

[@WowCreativeUsername]

@geekfreak618 Not all though. A vast majority is just stuff pumped out as cheap as possible. Makes it hard to find the good ones.

[@barney992]

@geekfreak618 some may have good specs and standards , not that loader

[@JoeMalovich]

I'm sure you can spec it out how you want from the factory, better pin securement, quieter pump, wider tires, thicker gauge bucket, more ballast with the batteries placed all the way in the back. Thicker gauge wires. Proper gauges. Yes it all costs money though. Those thin tires just aren't good on sandy ground, the ground has no mechanical connection between itself and itself. Not that wider tires would help with the seeming lack of drive torque you experienced.

[@dodgeme1986truck]

Those thin tires won't work in clay soil either

[@user-neo71665]

Didn't pay attention but airing the tires down will help in sand. I'm clay not much you can do but spin the tires faster to clean the lugs and that thing ain't gonna cut it.

[@dodgeme1986truck]

@@user-neo71665 yup in clay if you break through the top layer with the grass roots binding it together you sink like a stone especially if it's wet

[@randr10]

I've had a little bit of experience with hydraulic components that are sourced from asia, and they tend to build just massive quantities of one kind of cylinder at a time and since they don't have any place inside to store them they just leave them outside when they move on to the next batch. They can sit outside for years before they get shipped. Some will arrive where it's apparent that they were underwater at one point, just to give you an idea of the carelessness with which some of them are stored. You really have to do your own QC with a lot of it, as I'm sure you're aware with how nice your other loaders seem to be.

[@rikibruner2126]

Wow! A loader that I can move with my Harbor Freight trailer and 2004 Prius, their max load is 1750 pounds. I have a use case for this level of loader, or excavator, bulldozer and more would make sense for those of us caring for less than 5 acres and wanting to do 'it' ourselves. So I can only move 400 Kg at a swipe, I myself can move 10Kg per shovel full and having access to 'Heavy- Equipment' that this retired areo-space engineer can move with their passenger car and a cheep trailer is awesome! My tow limit is 1750 pounds with my rig, having an electric option I can move on my own is fabulous. Having access to an articulated excavator under the 1700 pound category almost makes my 'bucket-list.' Please remember, all of the fantastic equipment weighing 4000 pounds or more are but fabulous fantasy, or an exotic retreat in fabled lands at princely fees for some of us, for others rampant fantasy. I respectfully submit there is a legitimate use case for these 'adult toys' and I want to play with them all. 🦊Riki2Tails

[@rikibruner2126]

South Florida is a bit far for this child of the California Sun to be sure. Maybe if shipping is reasonable, things can happen. Still, the draw is palpable and the allure undeniably strong. 🦊Riki

[@MoosesValley]

You've got a GREAT Dad !! You are so lucky to have your healthy and fit Dad the with you, joining in, sharing the journey and the experience, having fun together, exploring and learning together.

[@EbikeSchool]

Dad, is that you?

[@thenL4595]

​@@EbikeSchool Lol dad log in using other account to praise himself

[@danielburke8350]

On the plus side, it has a self-leveling bucket... which is something my very expensive John Deere diesel tractor does NOT have 😠 It's kind of funny that in light of all the obvious cost-cutting in the manufacture of this machine, somehow they saw fit to install a full set of taillights/turn signals.

[@skydivenext]

Cuz china use this on daily while america regulates this with big pickup truckers and big vehicles so can't use this mini truck on roads

[@FedkaSlovanich]

@@skydivenextchina has no regulations period.

[@skydivenext]

@@FedkaSlovanich china better americs tho

[@FedkaSlovanich]

@@skydivenext Chinese equipment you’re lucky if it doesn’t burn you alive.

[@skydivenext]

@@FedkaSlovanich you are lucky if those big truckas doesnt obliterate you

[@karlroebling3316]

That size loader might be great for cleaning chicken houses. Wood chips cover the ground where chickens grow but must be removed and replaced after chickens are fully grown and before the biddies are delivered. That electric loaders are fume-free is a big plus and, as the wood chips are light, that sort of work wouldn't tax the equipment.

[@puccipower]

Do you have chickens? Maybe you'd be a great buyer. Though ethically I feel he shouldn't sell this. And maybe only for $200.

[@johnslugger]

*Add 800 Pounds of iron weights the the backend or two 55 gallon drums of water. China has to keep shipping costs down.*

[@1breematt]

Maybe if ya fill the back tyres with water he can pick up 20 pounds more. Ha ha

[@johnslugger]

@@1breematt *You need a counter-balance and that's an easy fix. Or you could have paid an extra $1200.00 for 1000 pounds of extra shipping weight PLUS the cost of the iron! I import from China everyday so I know why they do things this way.*

[@megape95]

@@johnslugger if they would give you a bucket with a boltable top what can be filled with scrap steel then they have a legit reason

[@johnslugger]

@@megape95 *Buckets are cheap! Steel is cheap. Chinese equipment is low cost! JUST FIX IT AND STOP WHINING!*

[@barney992]

@@johnslugger should get something workable when buying it . would you put your kids on it like demo'd in video .I wouldnt get on myself , no way anyone else . Our industrys have standards to keep to , but people buy cheap

[@thebikejournal0303]

You're absolutely right about things made in China. Most people using an iPhone, for example don't realize that they have been made for years by a Chinese company called Foxconn using chips also manufactured in Asia. You can buy cheap crappy merchandise and you can buy good quality merchandise. This piece of equipment is a good example of the former 😢

[@DaHitch]

The big difference with iPhone is "Made in China", but "Designed in California". You give them a set of designs to work to, and a list of quality markers to hit, and oversee they actually do it and China will make anything you want at the quality you desire. Just don't ask them to design anything themselves, because you end up with this.

[@JSMCPN]

Yep! Foxconn has made Apple products since the late 90s

[@RWBHere]

​@@JSMCPN They've been making computer mainboards power supplies, and other peripherals since the 1980's. Most consumer electronic devices today have numerous Chinese parts inside them.

[@johnjingleheimersmith9259]

@@RWBHere To be fair, the designs were either given to them by foreigners or they stole them. Let's be honest, the quality electronics have always been made in Taiwan.

[@JSMCPN]

@@johnjingleheimersmith9259 Not to mention manufactured with slave labor.

[@jenmontanus57]

I love that you and your Dad are buddies!!! I never had that with mine. I'd like to be involved in what you are doing. I know this is the FUTURE!

[@randyferraro3020]

I have one of these loaders that I am very happy with. Looking at your specimen, I can honestly say that you got a real stinker. Your batteries are tiny, like little baby toy car batteries. The ones that came in mine fill the entire rear bay top to bottom, front to back, and weigh about 90lbs each x5. That makes up most of your 500 LB counterweight needed to keep from tipping when loaded near capacity. So, you are missing your counterweight. You only have 1 drive motor. That explains your power/traction and turning issue. You should have 2 motors, one at each axle pushing them independently. Instead, you have drive-shafts that reduce the usable turning capability. Strain on those shafts from the hydraulic steering may explain some of the anger coming from that machine. Also, there is a very practical reason for the folding seat. The back of the seat is the ideal location for a slow-moving traffic sign. When you tow the loader, you fold down the seat saving wind resistance and obscuring the slow traffic sign from view of highway motorists behind your trailer. It helps you easily meet DOT regulations.

[@deltajohnny]

@randyferraro3020 Great comment! 👏👏👏

[@GadgetMan777]

Where did you get yours? I came across "Typhoon" brand ones for roughly $6000. Seems a bit high for these.

[@randyferraro3020]

​@@GadgetMan777 My unit was from Hightop. Good luck getting a single unit into the USA for less than $5,500. Guess who pays the tariffs on imports from China? It's that guy in the mirror. Don't forget container shipping, port fees, crane rental, trucking, customs brokerage, customs fees, taxes, insurance, oh and did I mention the tariffs? If any mistakes are made at any point in the process, you can lose your entire investment up to that point. $6,000 Risk free for goods already in the USA sounds like a bargain. Honestly, I would not buy one of these unless you can try it. This video perfectly illustrates the risk. After watching it, I felt really lucky that I did not get a lemon like this one.

[@calthorp]

You may say it is a piece of crap. But if you did not have another machine, It is light years ahead of doing stuff by hand. The few issues it has are not huge. For a little backyard machine that gets used once or twice a month it would be great.

[@tomjokr]

Only half way through the video and I feel like this is panning out to be a classic "get what you pay for" situation. And I feel like the price is likely going to be way over the "ill just get a cheap one to use occasionally" price point

[@8_x_9.]

Really good for just kids to learn.🎉❤😊.

[@ThatSoonerGuy]

@@8_x_9.that’s actually a really good idea. Let the kids learn on this cheap one and if they tear it up then so be it, so when they get on the expensive and capable equipment they’ll be ready and able 💪 I like that idea. Somewhat of an expensive “toy” but good for learning nonetheless lol Growing up, my pops would let me use the old tools/equipment so I learned quickly that if you get good on old raggedy tools or equipment, then you’ll be a stud on the good stuff! Haha

[@Adlevio]

love to see how you and your dad are having so much fun :) always a joy to watch!

[@brockedwards5896]

I wonder how many of those loaders are sold. I imagine there are not very many repeat customers.

[@charliemartin-k7m]

Would help if they checked everything before even using it the whining is from low fluid.

[@ThatSoonerGuy]

I wondered that too. When I was younger we lived near a place that sold “wholesale” Chinese machines. Like four wheelers, dirt bikes, UTV/ATVs, riding mowers, gas scooters etc. All sorts of things and they were complete junk but they had warranties and he sold them like hotcakes because they were only a fraction of the American made equivalents. I think China is different than here in that regard. You’ll see tons of these on construction sites in China because they’re cheap and they need a ton of them for all the worker ants around the site. Their philosophy is much different than ours. Make them fast, make them cheap and quality isn’t a worry. America is more so about quality and then working towards producing it in quantity. We’ve always been about making tools to last a lifetime and then your son’s lifetime but that requires a higher price, as you know.

[@Unknown1880]

It's a perfect machine!... For moving a pile of sawdust one's a year.😂

[@JSMCPN]

The only imperfection is that the batteries only last half a year.

[@kuntakinte4333]

DRY sawdust.

[@georgefitter7656]

It seems the reason for the thin steel, no grommets, no grease, narrow tires is that the manufacturer is more concerned with shipping costs than with building a quality, safe machine.

[@theninjascientist689]

Yeah, seems like they're focused on quantity over quality...

[@billmiller4800]

I like your comments at the end. Too many people forget that low price has to come from somewhere. There are lots of crap quality products made in their country, and China is no different. I think if this unit is really inexpensive, a bit of DIY could make it useful (2 nuts welded to the forks could attach them better, a 100kg weight could fix the tippy behaviour, etc...)... but would only be an option if it was really cheap compared to other options (I mean something like half price). One bonus, it doesn't need a reverse beeper because it's so noisy!!

[@cjt554]

I do very light duty stuff. How much did it cost? What was the duty (if any) how far was it to your port of delivery or how much to ship from port to your place? I looked on AliExpress and what looked like the same machine was about $2,318. The Nesher machine started at about $11K. So for my needs it would depend on the "delivered" price. But again, for my needs it might be worth it.

[@MilitaryTalkGuy]

I also noticed not a peep about price comparisons. I bet version he compared to cost at least 3x as much.

[@cjt554]

Yes the cheapest Nesher model he compared it to cost $11K with no attachments

[@coefase]

Halve the bucket size and halve the weight rating from 800 to 400lb then put some roll bars on, improve the hydraulic Valves flow control, change the pins, improve how the forks are fixed to the the machine. Thicken up the materials, improve the paint job. Improve the battery bank and double the tire width, place a counter weight on the back. Fix the suspension. Maybe then worth a look.

[@shakes7333]

Some of that awkward noise is that motor/pump assembly is bolted to thin metal and most likely without any type of rubber isolators. Especially when the motor is under a load using the loader. WAIT...........@29:28 is that a stack of nuts they put on there? LOL

[@Dingle-Berries]

You are correct 😂 a stack of nuts wtf

[@jimmypautz]

When you said "Let's go put this away" I pictured you driving it right into that pond/lake and just letting it sink.

[@matthewk2725]

you two are very entertaining! Your dad seems very cool

[@roro-jj1fv]

I know ya shouldn't have too But you already have it...... I suggest welding a price of angle that sit just under the top cross bar on each fork if there is still room to hook & fold down, also you could weld a piece of flat/or angle stock that goes under the back of each fork that rests under bottom rail of fork....... Ya could weld a couple u shape brackets on back of unit & set your barbell weight bar in it and add & remove weight as needed .... Rubber strap to hold batteries if ya don't wanna bolt & strap them .... & use it for the mini mini jobs as it is a mini loader Good luck ......

[@bluewolf4915]

When you say put it away you mean at the bottom of the pond right? 🤣

[@Stefan_Van_pellicom]

It’s better than a wheelbarrow and a shovel. But just barely …

[@FlyingPurplePizzas]

That electric tractor had an amazing lack of quality. Not worth producing or buying. But you learned and now you'll look elsewhere.

[@anticat900]

China can sell to one of these or one that can pickup 80 tons in one bucket or any size in-between. It will be as good as any US made one but only 1/2 the price!

[@charliemartin-k7m]

I would oddly want one its about the size I need and it can do the small stuff I want done.

[@anticat900]

@@charliemartin-k7m yep I would love to play at digging too

[@mathew00]

Listening to you and your dad laugh was amazing. Covid took my dad. Thank you so much for sharing!!! 🙂

[@toyotaprius79]

More battery capacity in the rear would seem to fix the tip limit and power limit

[@MiniLuv-1984]

Sounds like it needs some alignment, lubrication and top up of the hydraulic reservoir. Maybe first dump the hydraulic oil and put it through a sieve to get rid of the swarf. TLC will fix it and at half the cost, worth the investment in time.

[@OLDBotanicals]

That would make for an Economy yard cart to get around from garden to garden , with effective hearing protection, but it would hardly turn my compost without some bucking bronco shenanigans!!!

[@bewilderbeestie]

That's probably the best thing to do with it. Rip out all the hydraulics (including that awful pump), chop off the loader stuff, stick a tow hitch on the back, and you might have something vaguely useful.

[@MillBrookRailroad]

Good video. That machine reminds me of a few American made machines I've encountered over the years. Makes me wonder if that factory was in someone's garage.

[@808pathfinder]

I wood add counter weight in the back, beef up the tires and add a Rev limiter. Maybe change the fan for more quiet one

[@RoniAlboim]

Yes, but by the end of modification its not cheap anymore :)

[@user-neo71665]

A fan ain't the noise. They used a cheaper vane pump in the hydros. They are that loud by nature.

[@mrgw98]

It's all electric, there isn't a fan and you can't add a rev limiter to something that isn't an internal combination engine.

[@bfattori01]

Your dad is obviously LOVING this! Listening to his chuckles are enough for me!

[@cypressgold]

Depending on how much this was... I can only see this being used as something to convert into some mad max toy. lol

[@jcardwell3rd]

slide the batteries all the way back. There is plenty of room for counter weight back there.

[@EdLeeper]

Seems to be a lot of people, here, agreeing with your dad. The point is it is a cheap machine. If you expected better then you were dreaming. It is always about the money. You never mentioned what it cost or the issues with shipping and such. There will always be China bashers and you heard from a few in these comments. Point of fact, if you think you are going to get something for nothing (or very little) you are a fool (and I know that you are not that). You got exactly what you paid for,, minus the better batteries of course.

[@kiwikemist]

This is always what I say: you get what you pay for!

[@johnjingleheimersmith9259]

To be fair, there's a LOT of legitimate reasons to bash China though. IMHO I think they get away with far too much and are actually way worse than people give them credit for being. A lot of that has to do with being ruled by a tyrannical government...

[@charliemartin-k7m]

The things that it has wrong are simple fixes and parts you can get at any place the sells tractor parts.

[@jasongano1210]

Looks like a decent machine. Thanks for the honest review. I'm gonna order one.

[@aphex0540]

Sounds like has no hydraulic fluid

[@jasont80]

As a relatively cheap machine that would be easy to work on, I like it! It just needs a seat sensor to shut off the hydraulics. Drill and add some pins to hold the forks in place. Maybe add some counter-weights to the back.

[@terrylutke]

Over all the loader seems too light, maybe adding wheel weights would help. The loud pump is pretty annoying, engineers probably choose the wrong style pump (sounds like a pickup snow plow blade going up/down). It looks cheap (it probably is cheap:). It might be a tempting value, if not for killer shipping & customs cost.

[@TimeToBeKind]

What you are saying; in plain American English, “ITS SHIT!” After all, it’s something I could use because I have CMT, and that’s like an electric wheelbarrow, something I can’t use due to my disabilities. Thank you for sharing this video.

[@tallboy49]

A golden rule for front endloader operators is to always keep your floor flat not full of ruts like you had yours. When loading the bucket drive into the pile and then slowly raise and crab the bucket for a full bucket.

[@EbikeSchool]

That’s what I explained in the video

[@jayjonah2762]

should make a mini / micro dozer. lots of people wish they had something like the old MD40 or 45. those little things had a monstrous amount of power for how small they (and their engines) were. I think that would be a great addition to your front loader and mini ex. I know there are already motorized carts for moving stuff, not sure if any of them are electric though. So many possibilities! Great review :D

[@timfagan816]

The sounds lmao tragic. But you will actually be shocked. At load lifting capacity! We had a 40 ton digger on site. Boom tucked in, bucket curl (no bucket) the thing was only designed to lift 26kg. Give it an extra 10ft (3m) reach that thing was picking up 28 tons all day long! You'll get the hang of walking the dog into the piles or material! Push, bite (lift up on the bucket) it's all about traction.) So push dig, push dig, if you mess up, take what you have in the bucket. Back out and cover your ruts. Start again. It takes time. I started my big machine journey in a quarry. In a big volvo 350. With scales. I was doing like 9-12 ton on my 1st months full bucket. Then I learned, watched and figured my own ways. I was kicking back 19-23ton in a single bucket. It just takes time, mate! Cheers from new Zealand!!!

[@matthewgraham470]

It's crazy to see the differences between the Chinese loader and the real Nesher loader

[@johnmeddows8960]

You buy the best toys. Honestly though, you're doing prospective buyers a great favour.

[@russwoodward8251]

Even the smallest project on our 5 acres would require the L880. This is a cute little machine but it's not that safe, and I did not just spend my career life operating this kind of equipment so I would spend the extra and get an L880. That's the one. Thanks. I appreciate the realistic review.

[@mcochran9860]

I wonder, what would happen if you tried improving that loader with rear weights? Like on the tires,/an in the tires; or on the back bumper.. Are bigger wider tires available for this loader? Why didn't you try loading anything? Will the bucket go over the side of a truck? (doesn't look big enough to me, but wonder.) can it take a palette off/on a truck? How much was this loader?

[@prediculous8623]

I really like your conclusion at the end. Lots of people just rant about Chinese stuff - but they are able to produce high quality stuff … just not on Teemu or other 0,10$ platforms 😅

[@Adam-ox6zy]

The ‘phone you are using’ analogy is nuanced though. For example the iPhone is made basically by an American company in China. Everything is done to US and international spec. The people directing those people making the phones know what they want and what they are doing. However, a Chinese company (usually state owned) without any such direction will not produce a product equal to an iPhone. I’ve also seen it in medical equipment when comparing Sonosite ultrasound machines compared to Sonoscape ultrasound machines. Or Philips defibrillators compared to Mindray defibrillators. They are kinda close but not to the same spec of operation or build quality.

[@emilyblade9676]

State owned for this machine or company, you cant be serious? Most likely a small company making for small farmers or country residents in China at a cheap price. It's built for local Chinese usage at a low low price for those that cant afford better.

[@kamsunleong6648]

Iphone is basically made by an American company in China!!! Were you born yesterday? Do you not bother to check who actually makes them before commenting?

[@sean3301]

Are they shipped with vegetable oil instead of hydraulic fluids?

[@realvanman1]

Back maybe 30 years ago I operated an electric scissor lift that controlled the hydraulic lift mechanism not by inefficiently throttling the hydraulic oil while running the motor at constant speed, but rather by controlling the speed of the hydraulic motor with the joystick. It was a brand new thing at the time, and it worked REALLY well. Super smooth and controllable. It is stunning to see that all electric hydraulic equipment isn't made that way by now!

[@robertheinkel6225]

Hearing protection required on an electric loader?

[@natevanlandingham1945]

Is there a rear ballest option?

[@RRaucina]

You can buy 18,000 pounds of real iron in a used Ford/New Holland loader backhoe 555C or 655C,D and E. Typically 10 to $15k on the auction market. You can easily get 10,000 hours out of them where these will be lawn ornaments at 3,000 hours. Once you use a real backhoe, you just cannot look at these without laughing. Or you can do as I did and pick up a John Deere US made 690E trackhoe for $30,000. 4,000 hours and 44,000 pounds of beautiful machinery. Been running it for 20 years, never been down more than a day.

[@randr10]

I'm not even sure what the use-case would be for this except for maybe an older person who can't lift heavy things any more and wants to do gardening alone? I used to work briefly as a mover and I'm not a big dude, but a pair of us could pick up more than this thing can. It's probably better than using your back, but not by much. I'm looking at your L880 however, and that thing looks pretty rad, especially with the digger attachment. That could be a game changer for light construction equipment. I could almost get rid of my compact tractor with loader, backhoe attachment and 3-point. But the 3-point missing is a deal breaker for me. Pretty cool stuff though. I love what you're doing.

[@AlessandroCussino]

It's a miracle that that thing turned on and didn't catch fire 😶 41:24 I agree 100% 👍

[@Stryford1]

Your Nesher machines are great, high quality looking machines, but that thing looks like something you get for a kid/beginner to practice on and help with some light duty stuff.

[@AdamMacleod83]

Could we possibly expect an update on one of your first Chinese purchases, the little off road pick up truck. I believe you were going to replace the suspension?

[@EbikeSchool]

Check my videos, I updated

[@AdamMacleod83]

@@EbikeSchool I do apologize 😊

[@SuperXs1100]

Would a higher quality smaller pump make a difference or be worth it at all? Bigger tires aired down for traction, counter weights. Just wondering how much it would take to make it half way decent for minor use like plowing your 300yard driveway instead of wear and tear on your expensive side by side. Maybe set up a self power brush hog for cleaning the pond edges. Id rather sink that then the big tractor lol.

[@AWLY-m8p]

Hi What happened to your Chinese pekup truck?

[@micahsdad5388]

Almost three years in continuous use and going strong without a single failure. And we use it pretty hard.

[@AWLY-m8p]

@@micahsdad5388 Ok.can you make a new video or a short video about the car .

[@micahsdad5388]

3 years and going great

[@FMuscleZ28]

14:50, I'm sure that it can lift that 400kg load, if it's operated by someone weighing 150kg, but then it might not drive anymore... 🤣

[@AlexKall]

I bet they had guys standing on the back part when testing what it could lift and at 405kg something snapped.

[@hiscifi2986]

The way it lifts in a semi-circle from the arm lift pivot, means that at about four feet from the ground the load is furthest from the machine, so most likely to tip. This could be really disastrous if lowering a load from a stacking rack.

[@col2lin]

You said it yourself "You get what you pay for" Dealing with people that you get to know & trust makes the differance.

[@brookerobertson2951]

You need to top up the hydraulic oil. You can hear it with the sound of the pump..

[@puccipower]

Micah: Americas National "Testing Cheap Large Products from China so we don't have to," Treasure.

[@jamessweatt985]

Still fun watching you test equipment that doesn't make the grade.

[@mrgw98]

Any plans to try and import electric skidsteers or mini-stand behind slidsteers? I can see a good demand for those since they are commonly used in landscaping.

[@Bigdog1787]

I would of looked at this in the store and would of said nope right off the bat.😆 Personally i rather have a skid steer over a tractor.

[@pmpwiz]

You give me $100 and you pay the shipping. That's my best offer for that... loader. Love the idea behind what you do, love the videos. Keep 'em coming!

[@jylfarm1964]

The noise of the hydraulic is very bad. All the switch are in the wrong location. It will rain or snow on them, and they will go bad very quickly. Even boat rated switch won't last. The traction for this type of equipment is proportional to the weight of such equipment. A hydraulic weight rating might need extra weight (balast) in the back of the equipment. My tractor rated for 1200 lbs can't lift that without 500 lbs on the 3 points. With the Chinese, you need also to check the height of the rating. Some are only 1 meter.

[@eddiestevenson-kaatsch6306]

It's the sort of thing you could use to muck-out the stables, light jobs like that. Price would be the defining factor regarding retailing it for light duty only tasks.

[@Yournamehere9160]

We ban ev plant from tunnel construction due to fire regs then our client ban them above ground and looking at their EV ambulance next. Basically if any plant has lithium batteries its ban.

[@Tom-zo2rc]

My dad also had the Forest Gump Snapper. Mowed many miles on that thing. Awesome lawn mower.

[@john_barnett]

How much did it cost in comparison to the cheapest Nesher? Was it like a third of the price?

[@johnjingleheimersmith9259]

like a fifth i think

[@john_barnett]

@@johnjingleheimersmith9259 wow, that's honestly not that bad then considering what it *can* do

[@johnjingleheimersmith9259]

@@john_barnett they lied, it's a little under half.

[@john_barnett]

@@johnjingleheimersmith9259 then it ain't that great.

[@tarstarkusz]

Isn't there a space to install counterweights? Most forklifts and tractors have counterweights to prevent the lifting of the rear off the ground.

[@merendell]

That looks like the result of giving a pallet of 16 gauge sheet metal to a high school shop class and telling them to make something vaguely tractor shaped. Also someone forgot to tell them the motor for the hydraulics does not need to be running at 100% the whole time the power is on, just when your calling for power.

[@axelthorfilms]

Seem a bit better than a shovel and wheelbarrow in that department.

[@mymorristribe]

The amount of fun you had with that, clearly made it all worth it. lol

[@HRDBMW]

The noise is definitely concerning. Aside from the bad turning radius, And tires that look like they will not last a single day, it would be a handy machine. Can you attach a digger to it?

[@cyumadbrosummit3534]

I have one of these with a LiFPO4 battery it and it's great for around the house. Everything you said it absolutely correct though.

[@GadgetMan777]

Where did you get yours?

[@tonyking9235]

JUST ONE LOOK AT THE BATTERY LEADS TOLD ME ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW .

[@annwitzel9630]

You messed up twice , #1 buying electric , # 2 buying something from china .

[@captainahmedA380]

Surely when you buy something you dont think it magically appeared in the country you bought it from? Literally everything is from china they run this whole world there a good and bad quality products in china if china was to suddenly stop the whole world will stop

[@foxxyytofficial]

Hey, i know that it would be an extreme amount of work (and following your videos i see that you're pretty busy), but i like to see those little ugly products from China being worked on and reformed, so maybe if you don't get someone to buy it, you could try to slowly get that micro loader in a better state, like repairing the hydraulic system and getting a new pump, getting some ballast for the rear, thicker tires/wheels, getting a new bucket and proper forks, just to show how that micro loader could be if the factory hadn't cheaped out on it

[@tomcardale5596]

I don't mind getting a loader lifting the back in the air. It's when it lifts the front I need a new pair of trousers. The front anxle doesn't pivot, the back does. And when you've got a load a bit too high above your head, it gets very scary very quick!

[@tomdennee3974]

Did you ever think of putting a counter weight on it? It just might help keeping the wheels on the ground.

[@youtubemonitors1202]

Put weights on the back, also front to get more traction make a solid concrete block set eyes in it & then hook it up to your dandy merchine with your forks drill a hole through the top that attaches to the frame then put a spring loaded pin in that will stop the forks coming up?