ECHO(23b) GOES SOLO vs NOIR/VM/KoNG/GG/NTS/FG/BxS(124b)! Was This The Right Move? | Call of Dragons

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[@TuneImmortal]

remember when noir announced it was "us against the world, we are ancient power" and to this day they never even try to take a challenging kvk and they market themselves as "relentless fighters" they basically dollar store 1960

[@Daevos1]

@@TuneImmortal Us against the world - But also global ally a top 10 kingdom in GG and planned to have GLR migrate over an entire kingdom to be a sister alliance. If it wasn’t for migration caps, Noir would make the entire game as imbalanced as possible so they could never be challenged.

[@TuneImmortal]

@@Daevos1 exactly, they basically a meme at this point

[@Daevos1]

Noir choose the diplo every season they have played and it’s always massively in their favour. Then they tell the other side to deal with it and Noir collects their free win. ECHO tried to break the tradition so their players would get more fights but instead BxS chose to dodge z2 out of spite and pettiness

[@Kungpowchickn]

Ask your leaders for the data, you’ll learn how favored it really is

[@Exprrhehe]

@@Kungpowchicknno0b

[@CharizardEX1]

The only time NOIR couldn't diplo a win I believe is when they matched up against TFS and FS (who was at that time a sister alliance to TFS) in a KvK and ended up loosing. That loss has since haunted NOIR and they refuse to put themselves at any disadvantage or give themselves any challenge even as the strongest alliance in COD's history.

[@KiwiJag]

@@CharizardEX1wrong. That loss doesn’t haunt Noir members at all, that’s still most of our favourite season we’ve had in the game. Stop making things up when you have no idea how Noir or its members feel about it.

[@Bakiz]

I don't think GG. NOIR + KoNG > BxS, ECHO and NTS, it would of been a very balanced season, but ECHO just wossied out, they broke nothing but their own ego

[@cisko6748]

Im sure Echo was told this is what left take it or leave it.

[@coleyouthed6355]

It happened last season with dk/kong and wp/GG where the passes to z1 were given to gg and they took 1 bear and allowed dk/kong to keep the magma

[@coleyouthed6355]

They then just fought in z1 by the passes

[@sixtyfivewatts65]

Echo giving Noir the win , what a waste.

[@paulhan5414]

Echo needs to learn how to NAP, and Noir needs to learn how to FFA. 😊

[@Kungpowchickn]

Thank you for the updated data. It definitely shows how close the powers are at between the two sides. Just be aware the map your showing doesn't have the updated power.

[@BOSSNASTi]

The map shown as disclaimed in the video was T5 power at 60M+ from when I last pulled it, and it is more of a general baseline to give some context to what I talked about. I was very clear there throughout so no one would get confused if they listened all the way through 👍

[@lademonlocat]

From what i've seen, the relationships between alliances have a great impact when deciding the matchup. NOIR and BXS will never be ally due to bad blood and past history, while they have a great relationship with GG. On the other side, ECHO doesn't like BxS either, since a lot of ECHO members came from TFS who were fighting BxS a few seasons ago with a lot of trash talks. Based on this background, you could already tell what the matchup will be and why ECHO wanna solo.

[@BOSSNASTi]

Appreciate the share

[@sophophobia8841]

I hope BxS and NTS will not fight ECHO in next zone! I want to see ECHO in zone 5 alone fighting NOIR and their allies. Let's see how long they can survive. Maybe even less than 1 hour.

[@mithicash1444]

For such a massive whale alliance like NOIR, they sure as hell wimp out pf fighting a whole lot. They are mediocre at best, never really tested against an uphill battle and its sad for all the money they spent on a fighting game

[@Ayooo0o]

I'm talking to every alliance in this kvk, do they not want a fun kvk ?

[@Daevos1]

@@Ayooo0o Noir decided the diplo and it meant ECHO wouldn’t have a fight until the final zone. Where is the fun in farming for 95% of a season?

[@HavoC_077]

The amount of hate echo is getting because they wanted to fight instead of farming is just ridiculous. Noir is fine doing mock wars and farming but echo is not. Now rest of servers are crying because echo didnt bow down to their demands. The leadership asked the players if they want to fight or farm until the final zone and 90% of their players wanted to fight. So no point blaming the leadership when the players were the one who demanded it.

[@Feeluckyy]

Can’t lose if you never play

[@BOSSNASTi]

Lol

[@KILLERBEE-x4i]

he number one problem is the union system that u can only send only on your region haahaa

[@kaitoking1945]

I can see my house in there

[@BOSSNASTi]

Lol

[@abdabeast9695]

It’s never too late to admit you fucked up. Take the 3v3. Literally would be an amazing season. BxS can compete with GG. ECHO can compete with NOIR. NTS beats KONG. Echo still has a disadvantage but would be the craziest season this game has seen. (When it comes to top alliances fighting each other). I don’t agree with NOIR having global allies atm due to our small KvK pools. It makes a ton of sense to have global allies once the pools are bigger. But right now it can destroy seasons. Both ECHO and NOIR are at fault. But echo can be the ones to give people a season ppl won’t forget. That would be a way better look on ECHO instead of doing this BS no allying thing.

[@CharizardEX1]

Do the 3v3 that ECHO knows they will lose and make themselves look bad? They are going to solo this KvK and when anyone asks them how they lost the KvK they can just say "we chose not to have any allies". This decision is all about optics. They don't want to admit they lost to NOIR as were hoping to be the ones to defeat them. ECHO will win the meme war in COD discord. That's the war that really matters anyway.

[@KiwiJag]

Half of GG players are old Noir members that left on good terms, they’re more than just allies, more like family. Knowone from Noir would want to seriously fight them and I doubt GG would want to help Echo in the fight against Noir.

[@Bakiz]

I agree, there is still a chance for ECHO to change their minds and say lets fk up some NOIR whales up!

[@HarmerGamingYt]

😂😂😂😂 that's why good relationship always help in losing condition and bad relationship can only cry 😆😆

[@Paul-zp3ro]

I still dont know what is echo crying in their diplo.

[@reaganhardin718]

Echo decision is simply stupid, childish and disrepectfull to other alliance. BXS did a great job to not follow what echo wants (1vs1 in Z2), because they're being disrepectfull to them. Some of ECHO member said that their "allies" are weaker than NOIR side, so they going FFA instead. This is wrong, because ECHO is actually the deadweight in their "allies". BXS equal or maybe even slightly better than GG, NTS FG beat KONG RK. It should be a fair KVK Next time if you want to go FFA, you need to announce it before other leadership start doing diplo. So others will respect your decision and make a more balance union. Not being childish and do whatever you want after other leadership already finish with diplo

[@nonameph5352]

cry more

[@Daevos1]

@@reaganhardin718 diplo should be done by the leaders of all alliances in the kvk together collectively deciding and agreeing to what is the most fun and competitive setup for every player involved. Instead Noir diplo on their own (allying the strongest alliances each season) and then announce their decision. How many disappointing one sided seasons do we need to watch from Noir before you realise there needs to be a change.

[@nonameph5352]

cry more lol

[@reaganhardin718]

@@Daevos1 This is wrong statement, if they want to ally the strongest alliance they will try to ally with ECHO too instead of KONG RK. Last season NOIR ally with TFS because they respect each other, and NOIR hate BXS EIS. This is why it's important to keep your manners. And this is also why ECHO decision is stupid, i doubt BXS and NTS want to ally with them again in future kvk

[@Daevos1]

@@reaganhardin718 Noir and EiS had never met in a KvK before. Satoru didn't even know who Dark (EiS R5) was when he tried to reach out and diplo. He got ignored and as we all know Noir decided to ally with a 40b kingdom for the most disappointing KvK in history. Before you try to correct my comment you should make sure your facts are correct also instead of trying to make excuses for why Noir farms for 99% of every season and control the diplo win objective.

[@lorenzocaro68]

IS not VM IS RK

[@Beuving]

i have big respect for bxs not fighting echo ! i hope they get no fight in nexst zone too. hope they dont get into dragen😂

[@Daevos1]

Typical Noir player response. Respect the farmers and players who don't want to fight and hope that there is zero fighting all season?

[@odineye72]

If you run into any problems with the game do not expect the joke of a customer service dept to help you....they are all useless and lead you on that they can help but then they wont....

[@quacks69420]

tired of winning 😢

[@DrunkScotsman1]

This title is so wrong 🤣

[@Rock-n6w]

😂😂😂 why u are showing nts 9b+ power it's real power is 15 b +

[@BOSSNASTi]

If you listen all the way through, then you will know what those numbers mean.

[@JIsaak11]

BxS is the weakest top 10 alliance, they are notoriously difficult to work with. ECHO would rather go solo than ally them which gives them an out to losing the season. If echo does ally and they lose it’s much harder to sell their members that they are p4p the best alliance in the game. The amount of ego in this KvK is staggering

[@BOSSNASTi]

The ego take on this kvk is an interesting one

[@burhantoprak1394]

BxS is top 5

[@King-gg1qh]

🧐🧐 is not NTS power is 15b + , why 😂😂 u showing 9 b + power

[@BOSSNASTi]

Be sure to listen all the way through and you will find out what that number means.