Eclipse BETRAYED Lunar in VRCHAT

[@cindypicadomolina7814]

The fact that Eclipse starts at his own hand, the one he slapped Lunar with and then questions if he should apologize, but then MAKES himself think "No, it doesnt matter. I don't have to apologize for anything", makes me REALLY think (Or at least hope) that deep down in Eclipse, he somewhat has grown attached or some kind of affection for his brother. But he's so caught up with his obsession of the star, of everything being perfect, of everything being in his control that it's just blinding him so badly that he thinks that he's just doing what "he thinks it's right". But how he belittles, insults, HURTS Lunar, is unacceptable. He doesn't deserve Lunar

[@DogDay02]

I thought the exact same thing!

[@Blood_on_my_paws]

I love the most recent Lunar, Eclipse and Earth lore :D

[@Jack_the_Killer_Ex-Cop]

*•I'm not surprised but I am happy seeing Lunar stand up for himself as well as him seeing the errors of Eclipse's ways•* *~•same!•~*

[@solaryscastro9148]

Same

[@QueenRamen23]

True

[@QueenRamen23]

Fight for your self

[@elizabethmakos4517]

Raise your hand if you want to KILL Eclipse

[@danielkennedy3100]

good job lunar

[@Bonniethebunny]

Dang, Eclipse, and Lunar had their first fight, and holy hell, i'm proud of you for standing up to him like that Lunar. Having the courage to tell Eclipse no. I'm impressed! And is that remorse coming from Eclipse? Regret? So he does somewhat care, if only a small bit. I'm not sure if that will hold up considering Eclipse also sounded like he's trying to convince himself to not care. That's rather sad. That may've been one of Eclipse's redeeming qualities, but like anything else potentially redeemable about him, he just threw it out the window. There may be some hope for Eclipse, but only a tiny bit, and it's a flickering hope.

[@dazzling.7715]

He’s growing attached to lunar, he’s not as attached as lunar is to him, but I think he still cares for him, but lunar is seeing the cracks, eclipse isn’t the perfect brother he thought he was anymore, he isn’t a good person. Lunar’s going to leave eclipse soon, and that’s certain. Maybe when lunar finally does leave, maybe eclipse might actually realise his own flaws. Either that or he’s going to become worse, it could go either way at this point in time.

[@Whatlander]

Abusive people also commonly express regret or try to make nice after hurting their victim. At least until the next time they feel challenged or get angry and lash out again. Then that remorse goes out the window, like you said.

[@Bonniethebunny]

@@Whatlander i'm well aware. My abusive father used the same tactic. He's put away now, and will be for a long while, but you're correct. It's to keep their victim caged. I still don't think Eclipse is redeemable at this point.

[@sleepyinsomniac-u-]

I adore ur way of talking. I was rlly feeling it for eclipse when he said “why do i even care” and then he IMMEDIATELY ruined it w the next dialogue lmao the villain we love to hate

[@alishawauters]

@@Bonniethebunny I’m so sorry that you were abused

[@EmilySpiritExT]

I love when Lunar sasses Eclipse! "It's not your body, it'll corrupt!" "Why didn't you make us our own bodies then?" Eclipse: *angry silence because Lunar has a good fucking point around his lie!*

[@ii_D4k0]

Lol true, but i think they just havent made a body for themselves so they could keep sun and moon under control without being able to fight them

[@EmilySpiritExT]

@@ii_D4k0 They can't separate from Sun and Moon because it would kill them. There wouldn't be anything left they could use. They need their host systems. I'm sure if Sun and Moon really were killed off, it would heavily damage Eclipse and Lunar if they didn't die. It might come off like they got massive brain damage. And we don't know how serious such damage could be! It could be so terrible if they survived, that they could be paralyzed and unable to function without others helping them. Maybe they wouldn't be able to talk or do normal things they were able to do before such harsh damage was done. That risk is too great because they want to live, and live an active life, they can't do that if the damage is so serious that they can't do anything for themselves. It would end up getting them decommissioned. I'm positive that's what is keeping Eclipse from making them their own bodies right now. Because he's aware of the numerous risks that aren't worth it if they survive or not. So for now, they have stolen Sun's and Moon's bodies to keep control of the boys and to keep them from getting any help.

[@Bonniethebunny]

@@EmilySpiritExT Eclipse still plans to kill off Sun, and Moon if he gets that star. Potentially Lunar too since he'd no longer have any use to him. Once he has what he wants, knowing its' capabilities, in the end, it'd just be Eclipse anyways.

[@EmilySpiritExT]

@@Bonniethebunny Yeah of course. I'm not denying he wants Sun and Moon dead and gone. It's possible that the star might have the ability that Golden Freddy doesn't to separate them without death or massive damage to him. The thing he's ignoring the fact that he'll be alone again. If he truly hates being alone, then it's on him because he's the cause of all his suffering. I still think he's an idiot more than Lunar ever could be because it's he isn't thinking it out perfectly, he can fuck up himself. And when he does that, I'm sure I'll be laughing at his dumb ass for not thinking that was even a risk.

[@bludirose]

Eclipse, even if you are a line of code from Moon back then, you are also a part of Sun.

[@EmilySpiritExT]

I'm so proud of Lunar realizing he's been isolated and won't stand for being caged up anymore just because he's told to stay put! Good boy!

[@saedpitt5135]

I am proud of him too

[@eduardspinu1232]

Ye me to

[@janetmiller8649]

Ya i’m proud of him too🙂 it’s good to see him sticking up for himself🥰

[@selinaaa910]

Me too

[@leiarobinson3549]

Same, I feel like a proud mother. Lunar, I'm so proud of you! We are so proud of you! ❤

[@siobhanpaterson4668]

Love the show and I'm so proud of lunar standing up for himself and fighting back eclipse

[@Celestial438]

I am living for Lunar standing up for himself! Lunar brought up many valid points, and also, that was a nice save on his part about Blood Moon! and Eclipse, ooo! Eclipse is starting to question himself on where he and Lunar stand! Also, how dense can he get! He just dropped the whole Blood Moon topic after only asking twice! Seriously, where is Sun, what is he doing, he isn't one to stay quiet, he's always fidgeting or doing something! Eclipse is dense to think that Sun, being quiet, isn't a concern. Hope Moon is having a better time now that Lunar toned down the pain, hopefully Eclipse doesn't find out during those check ups. Anyway! Great video! As always! Keep it up!

[@FluffyDragonDrawing]

The last time we saw Sun he seemed to have been transported somewhere that looks like Golden Freddy's. So I don't think he's present at this time.

[@Celestial438]

@@FluffyDragonDrawing I remember but, it just doesn't add up, Sun and Eclipse are intertwined, they can't separate unless they both want too. So how would Sun not still be stuck in his head? If anything it's probably just a different part of his mindscape, maybe a memory? That's what I think at least, the mindscape is different from person to person, like memory lane can be a flowing river for one person while in another, It's a vast library. But it's always depicted as places the person has either visited or seen in passing, or just whatever that person finds comfort in. Those are just my thoughts about why Sun looked to be at Golden Freddy's Manor.

[@FluffyDragonDrawing]

@@Celestial438 Idk, joint mindscapes? They are robots, so perhaps there was a kind of "cloud" they had access to, which is how Sun saw moon. We've seen the both of their mindscapes. That said, Golden Freddy is an enigma and I don't think we should even TRY to explain him. He's this several thousand year old spirit that is currently reincarnated as an animatronic, that casted a master level spell to let ALL animatronics be bio-organic if they so wish who has several ACTUAL children and turned Moon into a plushie within 5 seconds of meeting him; with thousands of ghosts floating around his manor constantly and I think he also temporarily gave Sun a stomach for one night so Sun could have some soup. I'm not even going to TRY to explain him

[@Celestial438]

@@FluffyDragonDrawing the joint mindscapes looked to be temporary though, otherwise Sun would have stayed by Moon, they even said that Eclipse probably let them convers. Now, if Sun knew how to astral project, that's a different story and would explain why he's at the Manor, but if that were the case, then Eclipse would probably know and try to stop Sun from seeking outside help. Which is why I think Sun is still in his head probably planning something, and yeah, I wouldn't try to explain Golden Freddy either XD

[@Saydee51]

If I watch this video and he hurts Lunar. . . Edit:. . .I literally do not know what else to say aside from the fact that this these VRchat lore's just get better and better each time. They're always so on point it's so ridiculously well done- And Eclipse. . .go apologize to your brother and stop putting your damn hands on him.

[@jessicaruizcollazo2372]

Like hell hes gonna do that

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

He’s too damn proud to admit he was wrong.

[@Saydee51]

@@SweetOrangeGirl Smfh-

[@Saydee51]

@@jessicaruizcollazo2372 He's lucky we can't jump him-

[@IzzieMakesStuf]

yass!

[@OneMomentPlease...]

Eclipse go apologize NOW! Man I'm glad Lunar's standing up for himself. Standing up against the abusive and controlling one and only (hopefully one and only) Eclipse! I also love how any time Lunar spends Moon's money, he apologizes. I just find that cute :D

[@Exvint]

No

[@OneMomentPlease...]

@@Exvint Ah, it seems Eclipse has underestimated me. You should really work on that. Apologize or I'm taking away your computer privileges for a month.

[@OneMomentPlease...]

@Abigail Croteau True, but that's on Eclipse for making him too violent. Bloodmoon can't help his bloodlust, Eclipse is just an a-hole. He knows what he's doing and he knows it's wrong but he doesn't care.

[@Dragonairy]

@Abigail Croteau honestly? Bloodmoon seemed shockingly nicer to Lunar then Eclipse is.... the most aggressive he got was because he was having withdrawals from blood 😅

[@Bonniethebunny]

@Abigail Croteau Blood Moon has not shown any signs of being abusive. He has a bloodlust, yes, but that's not his fault. Eclipse made him that way.

[@sofieee_]

I'm proud of Lunar for standing up for himself yet again! Also, the end where Lunar spends Moon's money is honestly really funny-

[@eternallylearning2811]

Yeah what was there douche "creator" doing there

[@x0xfandomcollectorx0x5]

Lunar standing up for himself is just incredible and I never thought that eclipse would feel guilty for hitting Lunar,it’s really surprising!the eclipse and lunar show is getting way more interesting than I expected!this episode was so surprising!!!

[@darktooth4576]

A little bit of Sun is sort of showing through Eclipse, but, he refuses to accept any compassion for Lunar, he views him as an instrument to his plan and nothing more. Which is very cruel. I’m glad that Lunar is starting to realize how bad Eclipse is. At first he acted like a rebellious kid that wanted to do what he wanted and what anyone else wants of him, but now, he’s grown, he’s seen what Eclipse puts him through. Having second thoughts about their “brotherly” relationship. It sheds a lot more light on Lunar as a character that was once oblivious to his purpose in life. But now he can see.

[@tends-to-forget3914]

Okay a lot in one lore video, glad Lunar is standing up for himself more. Also it seems Eclipse really doesn’t know how to really show actual emotions towards people, even questioning himself of his own actions. But more importantly was that their Creator’s boy at the end?! What the heck?!😟

[@xdiamondnekox377]

HOLD THE FRICKING PHONE!! Lunar finally realized Eclipse is evil AND Eclipse felt Sorry!? This show just keeps getting better and better. Keep up the good work!

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

Lunar having to stay stuck in the daycare? Sounds an awful lot like what happened with Quasimodo and Rapunzel. If you’ve seen the movies they’re from, you’ll know what I mean.

[@hayden6309]

Yeah and it's sad because some people Have to stay in their homes in place they can't leave or they be shot

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

@@hayden6309 Some abusers are like that. Others will use their words to keep their victims close to them.

[@Puppetry-is-holder]

I agree and yeah I seen the movies :

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

@@Puppetry-is-holder Man, now I want to rewatch those movies again. Of course, I’ll probably be sad thinking about Lunar.

[@hayden6309]

@@SweetOrangeGirl Sadly That is true of what you said .... A lot of people are scared of other People because they had been abused by their family So they may that person well hit them because they're scared And,Some people keep leaving in fear that fear well someday overall them. Monty please safe him. And for everyone Else stay safe And take care of your friends and family's and if they're gone. Just remuber that they are still with in your hearts. Because death is never then end they are still with us as long as we do not forget them Stay safe

[@crookedstaticshadow201]

I knew Eclipse was this evil... but he has a soft side to him. Lunar has some fight in him, now! Awesome video guys!

[@pastelnut027]

Lunar betraying Eclipse is one thing, but if Eclipse does it then it’s a problem!

[@LittleStarlight131]

YEAH!

[@wolfierose2184]

Yeah

[@sunnydrop1496]

Then again he slapped his brother when he was doing his job-

[@katrimil]

UHHUH!!

[@kittyelizabeth5737]

Well, to be honest, luner doesn't understand a lot of things, and the stuff he does understand is, he doesn't want to tear 2 people apart, that clearly care about each other, and he doesn't want the world to end, no matter what he was actually created for he's doing what he believes is right, whether it's betrayal or not.

[@megsterbbb]

I think it's great to see Lunar standing up for himself but I also was so worried for him when he kept saying no to Eclipse. I like Eclipse starting to care for Lunar though, it might mean he can change. Moon changed for Sun so maybe Eclipse can do the same for Lunar. If Moon is the calm, protective personality to balance Sun's excitable energy, Eclipse is exactly that for Lunar and it's not like a little aggression can't be used in the right way in a franchise that has problems with multiple child murderers.

[@MorganLaFayTempest]

God, Eclipse gives me panic attacks every time he's around Lunar-

[@chippyblossom3488]

Same 😂

[@valdomingo199]

Big same

[@TheCelestialDumbasses]

SAMEE

[@222eal]

IKR 😭😭😭😭😭😭 I feel bad for lunar 😞

[@Xenohollday464]

Same and I feel bad for lunar

[@RadioactiveBunz]

Okay so lunar standing up for himself is great and I'm proud of him, and Eclipse feeling some kind of guilt after hitting lunar is really suprising. (Oh my goodness thank you for the likes)

[@Slasha482]

So Eclipse DOES care a little. I guess it's the same thing with Sun: Eclipse can influence Sun and viceversa. Man, I just wish Eclipse wasn't so focused in his total world domination thing. He could actually have friends and a brother. Maybe Sun and Moon could even tolerate him, and Lunar would have his wish. Lunar cared for him from the start.

[@Twylyght2020]

They had their first major fight! I'm so proud of Lunar for standing up for himself. He's not going to blindly follow Eclipse's orders anymore. I was surprised to see a little regret from Eclipse for hitting Lunar even though he's too stubborn to apologize. Totally different from when Moon and Sun got into a fight. Moon didn't hesitate to apologize to his brother. This is the thing that's going to push them apart.

[@HexDoodlez]

GO OFF, KING! 👑 That's what I'm talking about! Putting your foot down, standing up for yourself Said enough is enough, round of applause for Lunar for defending himself against an abusive, toxic person.

[@ZePcreations]

🙌🙌🙌*excessive cheering and clapping*👏👏👏

[@9NINE9_THECOOLGUY]

🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏

[@nightmarewolf7632]

I would if I knew how to put an emoji in

[@i-carriersinc4376]

👏👏👏👏

[@sunnydropxd5069]

KING LUNAR!!!!!!👑👑👑👑👑

[@catspawcreates]

Hot dang. What a call out. Eclipse again ASKED Lunar to do the diagnostic (he's asked every time that I can think of) and now thinks he might care in his own twisted way. Lunar's not having any of this crap anymore and is finding his voice. Poor lil bean, but his reflection on the difference in their brotherly relationship and Sun/Moon is definitely a catalyst for good change in him, but may lead to a more dreadful/angsty demise if he keeps it up with his obviously aggressive oppressor... Lunar has known and isn't going to lie down and take it, good for him! Shove.. it... up ... your... servos... I definitely went... oooooooohhhhh! It does make me wonder, without tweaking how long his systems would last or how long it'd take Moon to be able to free himself. There is so much to digest in this one, and this tension is so thick. I was half expecting one of the other main animatronics to show up at the end, but what a cryptic way to end it. Everything is percolating with delicious drama.

[@sunnydrop1496]

You guys always surprise me!!! I'm so happy to see another episode of the series!

[@sunnydrop1496]

Nevertheless I feel so bad for lunar. He doesn't deserve this.

[@literallyjustanarwhal]

@@sunnydrop1496 yeah

[@Littl3_cut3_m0ves]

5:59 *"should i apologize?"* _thinking_ "no."

[@pohler215]

wow this is very deep it's suprising that Eclipse actually cares for Lunar in a way

[@Asmodeus_682]

I think it's like how Sun was getting angrier as a result of Eclipse's influence. Maybe it's like that but the other way round. Sun's caring personality is rubbing off on Eclipse a bit and making him feel bad for how he treats Lunar

[@pohler215]

@@Asmodeus_682 that's very plausibel.

[@jellybean9551]

It was so triggering when Eclipse wouldn't move his hand off of Lunar. And when he slapped him, lied to him, and yelled at him. Lunar is so kind and logical, but Eclipse is manipulative and insensitive.

[@sunnydropxd5069]

I know anyone who sees this get your pitchforks we’re gonna Hunt eclipse

[@Themooncat2008]

Imma get my torch and a baseball bat

[@i-carriersinc4376]

I got my pitchfork. IM READYY LETS GOO

[@sunnydropxd5069]

@@i-carriersinc4376 Let’s go find ECLIPSE!!!!!!

[@Themooncat2008]

@@sunnydropxd5069 YEA!

[@siutszching]

I wonder if they are going to have a redesign one day since blood moon is pretty unique in style

[@Keira_Akoma]

That's most likely what's going to happen

[@hatsunemikuu096]

I'm so proud of Lunar standing up for his self. He always just listened to Eclipse but he actually stranded up for his self. I can tell ever video he gets a little bit more confident. I hope Lunar will help Sun and moon. That's it keep up the good work!❤

[@nIcoloaEvil3899]

I new it I just new this would happen mate, good look Lunar with Eclipse hurting you, still love you and Eclipse tho xx

[@alextheVA]

I think we shouldn't forget that for a MOMENT Eclipse thought about Apologizing to Lunar

[@Asmodeus_682]

Yea, it's probably gonna be important soon

[@queensurreal]

YES EXACTLY

[@truerichardson282]

I can't believe he slapped Lunar. Absolutely evil he is. I'm touched by the way he felt bad though. I hope he apologizes tomorrow.

[@pastelnut027]

Unfortunately I’m not surprised at all.

[@anime-qf4ir]

@@pastelnut027 yeah this doesn't shock anyone

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

If he doesn’t, then I won’t be surprised. But if he does, I still won’t be surprised if Lunar rejects his apology.

[@VTFpersonal]

for the looks of things, tomorrow we may get a gameplay , maybe already recorder, or maybe Eclipse may fake a apology for Lunar and Lunar may just pretend the believes it..

[@Whatlander]

He's hit Lunar before - I totally missed it the first time around. Lunar even told Monty he keeps track of how often it happens. Sadly, it's not unusual for an abusive person to feel bad right after an outburst, or try to make up for it. It doesn't stick, though.

[@FluffyDragonDrawing]

Alright, damn.... Wasn't expecting see Eclipse apparently actually _care_ about Lunar. I was shocked that he even considered apologizing... This is legitimately the _first_ time we've seen any ounce of positive emotion out of him; I was convinced they were going with him being 100% horrible irredeemable but uh nah. That's pretty interesting. Also, good for you Lunar, standing up for yourself. You deserve so much better. You aren't stupid, you aren't going to mess things up (unless you are trying too that is.) And lets be honest man, why would glowing give it away? It's established that's a feature that Sun and Moon ALWAYS had, so it wouldn't be that odd for him to start glowing. ALSO THE CREATOR (or atleast his body) SHOWING UP THREW ME FOR A LOOP.

[@ii_D4k0]

Agreed, but i think it werent the creator, as i understood it was a bot asking for Lunar to pay the stuff he bought to build bloodmon's body, like a bot from the store he buyed from

[@FluffyDragonDrawing]

@@ii_D4k0 Probably, but we've only seen it as the creator.... and 5 dollars is pretty cheap for robotic parts.

[@ordinarystranger6667]

@@FluffyDragonDrawing it could have just said 5 so it’s more trustworthy maybe the robot took more than 5 dollars

[@EmilySpiritExT]

I think that reappearance even confused Lunar. Remember Lunar saw the creator's robot before, even recognized the voice wasn't the same either. So confusing indeed.

[@ii_D4k0]

@@ordinarystranger6667 Maybe the bot meant 5 THOUSAND dollars, or maybe Lunar just buyed small and cheap parts for 5 dollars, like nails, springs or stuff like that

[@EmilySpiritExT]

OH! Eclipse: Why did I do that? Should I go apologize? So why do I keep caring? Those are very interesting questions that he sounded saddened by. A bit of regret? That is very new for Eclipse. That's probably the remaining bits of Sun in him, that actually cares for his brother that he somehow is finally experiencing. And as soon as he realizes it's a part of Sun effecting him, he'll want it dead so he could focus on his damn goal rather than having a stable, healthy home life. I thought I'd never see the day that Eclipse would sound like that or ask those questions while thinking of Lunar. Maybe I can actually start liking this prick since he finally shown some other emotion other than anger and annoyance. Maybe there is a chance in the future that Eclipse here can get redeemed. But he'll keep fighting against it until he's unable to fight anymore. Sure thing a thing Eclipse shares with Sun and Moon that he is stubborn. Yet he won't give in so easily. He'll keep being a prick until he has nothing else to do but to submit. Eclipse you are making your life a Hell hole because you refuse to compromise with Sun at all. It's not Sun's, Moon's, Lunar's, or even Monty's faults that your life is a nightmare. It's you! You're bad energy, being evil is what is causing all this chaos. Now I finally see it, you're afraid to end up like Moon back when he shared a body with Sun. That sweet Sun would get all the glory and attention meanwhile you are just shoved in the mind with nothing to do but to repeatedly think of how jealous you are. You are blind like Sun was to that situation! Sun didn't know the whole time that Moon was loosing his mind caged up. If Sun would have known that he would have done anything to bring comfort to his brother while they shared a body to the best of his ability! Since he never knew that until recently, he was never able to try to help out. Sun will have to eventually compromise with you because neither of you can separate at all. Yeah, Sun hates you for all the shit you've done and will keep doing. But Sun can learn to give others second chances. He did so with Lunar. And he'll have to because if you keep being so evil, Sun is gonna loose his mind. And I don't think you want to see what happens if you push Sun's tolerance to the absolute EDGE! Sun would HATE that option, he's afraid of that option in fact! Yet if he's pushed hard enough, he just might do what is needed to protect everyone he loves. You just love to test him. If you're gonna play dirty, than so will Sun. Sun only fights you because you are dangerous and he doesn't want anyone hurt!

[@BasicSolar]

Uuuuuuuuuuuhhhhm That's a loooot of text buddy

[@EmilySpiritExT]

@@BasicSolar So? I had a lot to say there.

[@FluffyDragonDrawing]

@@BasicSolar And?

[@BasicSolar]

@@EmilySpiritExT I was trying to do a lil' joke there-

[@eternallylearning2811]

Sigh You know I thought previously that eclipse was doing all this out of posessive love for moon and it was previously with a layer of protectiveness cause I stile feel that sun was intentionally emotionally abusive and I felt like he needed a serious call all out for that I thought that lunar would have had a sootherwand to sadate moon with also the fandom made me madder at sun for subconsciously guiltripping moon into forgetting he had a point in blaming sun.

[@unicornsunpop209]

Well, at least Lunar tried to stand up for himself, hope he's okay 💙

[@katrimil]

6:15 Omg... Eclipse is in denial of caring about Lunar. BUT GO APOLOGIZEE MAN!! 😤😭

[@Asmodeus_682]

Or maybe he's only now realising he feels bad

[@MxPhantomWing]

Or he's only realizing he's caring because Lunar stood up for himself

[@SpiritAmong-Darkness]

Oh thank god Lunar is alright! 😌From the title and thumbnail, I was worried Eclipse might have killed him. Oh nice save though on the Blood Moon thing o.o he's smarter than Eclipse gives him credit for. So happy that Lunar is sticking up for himself! ✨Poor baby bean... so neglected. Maybe after all this is over he can have some real friends. AH HA!! So Eclipse does have a conscience! It's not much but it's a start. Maybe his connection to Lunar will change him for the better. I hope

[@Callmeunknown_creator]

Lunar is so FREAKING ADORABLE!!!! 😍😍😍😍

[@reni0v]

IKR

[@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982]

He doesn't deserve the abuse.🥺💕

[@mariskamyburgh2354]

just seeing lunar stand up for himself makes me happy to know that he has had enough of him.i also feel sorry for him for getting smacked in the face😪

[@MaggotBelly2023]

Eclipses head turn was very dramatic.

[@ilmaris6134]

Eclipse seems to rethink his relationship with Lunar. An interesting twist would be if Eclipse really started take care about Lunar, while Lunar wouldn't want anything to do with it. Overall, I am very proud of Lunar for standing up to his brother ❤️ I wish him the best ❤️ For all of them, actually. Even for Eclipse, if it shows the will to change for the better.

[@kikilovesfnaf9321]

When Eclipse smacked Lunar it almost made me gasp...I CAN'T BELIVE HE ACTUALLY DID THAT!

[@Princhly]

Today’s episode made me cry. I need to rewatch baby lulu episodes

[@lunaytstudios5699]

Lunar honestly did the right thing of joining the gang against his "brother"

[@gachabox3142]

I’m surprised that Lunar is still somewhat putting up with Eclipse’s sh*t. I’m still holding out hope that soon Lunar will just run away and let Moon have his body back for good, and of course that he, and even Sun, will take Lunar under their wing. As for Eclipse seemingly feeling guilty, I don’t think he was feeling guilty at all; I believe it was just residual Sun. I mean, Eclipse had no regret when he tried to kill Lunar when Monty told him to in the other episode, so why would he have any regret about slapping him across the face?

[@A-Ahh...K-keep_goinnngg...A-Ah]

I'm afraid that eclipse finds out what lunar did and does something bad to the bean-

[@ERINCHAMPION5000]

I got so worried when Lunar said he hadn't heard from Bloodmoon in "awhile," thank goodness Lunar can play that off. But.. My Heart aches.. so much for Lunar, getting hurt and insulted by Eclipse like that.. god-the thumbnail alone had me in panic and concern for Lunar. He deserves so much more.. I'm glad Lunar stood up for himself, Eclipse is getting out of hand. ..Eclipse though.. at the end, he felt guilty. He cares.. But his stupid ego and plans are getting in the way of something he could have. He Could have the same relationship as Moon and Sun if he just pulled his stupid head out of his "Servos!" ..Lunar and Bloodmoon really will be his downfall if he doesn't change for the better, things.. are gonna get really ugly. (also random side note: that dang grey robot is still around?? This is a problem, like Goodness- everyone's money is gonna get taken)

[@JesterLoki.]

I knew this would happen from the very start.

[@-1ChaoticMushroom1-]

Heya V!

[@Imdeadnow.]

Yep-

[@Glitchysproductions]

Same

[@JesterLoki.]

@@Imdeadnow. Heya katnnis! IM TRYNA WATCH THIS BEFORE MY BATTERY DIES HELP

[@error404orshadow_knight8]

Everyone did.😔

[@starxolotl]

I’m so glad Lunar is finally standing against Eclipse. Eclipse stating that “it really doesn’t matter” if Lunar tells anyone his plan is a sign of two things: his arrogance and his low view of Lunar. Lunar is correct: he thinks he’s higher than everyone, especially Moon, when in fact he’s worse. The two other maniacal killers in this series (Moon and Bloodmoon), are programmed to be killers. It is in their blood to murder, and they can barely control it. Eclipse, on the other hand, as Lunar pointed out, is a horrible person for f u n. He can chose to be a better person, he just doesn’t want to. I really hope they can stop him, because he is one of the worst people in this universe.

[@ahmedjoycesneakattacksquad5003]

what about the scene where he shows that he cares 5:42

[@starxolotl]

I don’t think that’s him caring about Lunar as a person so much as he cares about Lunar as a tool to his plans. Throughout the rest of the episode (and the series as a whole), he is nothing but cruel to Lunar, but still tries to keep up a somewhat “brotherly” appearance to keep Lunar on his side by baiting him with the familiar affection he craves. “Why did I do that” is immediately followed with “it doesn’t matter” instead of any form of remorse, and is spoken in such a tone that it doesn’t appear like he actually cares. While it would be nice to have Eclipse actually give half a rat about Lunar, it doesn’t seem like he does, or ever will. :(

[@sashomaru123]

...welp guess imma have to fight me a robot. I'm so happy and proud to see Lunar putting up boundaries and sticking to them. Love you Lunar!

[@MegasharkZdaplays]

Was that robot that want money is the creator of Sun and moon

[@ArtsnCraftSlayer]

@@MegasharkZdaplays Pretty sure, although in the episode he appeared, he seemed to be malfunctioning. He probably left it there since he had no more use for it so now it just wanders around aimlessly asking for money or smth.

[@goldenfoxy6940]

YES LUNARRRR, stand up for yourself! But also- eclipse having guilt about what he did and caring :OO

[@Sunny_SunRay]

I'm so happy for Lunar Standing up! And I feel like Eclipse does have a good side. He just doesn't want to believe it.

[@twinart2194]

Good Job Lunar for standing up and tell Eclips what to do! (keep it up. you are cool)

[@Swad_and_Darling]

You care about Moon Lunar? That's so cute

[@L1ttleMissHaze]

So yeah… this was a roller coaster- Glad to see Lunar stand up for himself!

[@Soulizko_ko]

Wait what? HE DID NOT JUST HIT LUNAR Lunar is finally realizing what eclipse really is, I'm so proud

[@Fox_Therian446]

Oh no I hit him

[@Soulizko_ko]

@@Fox_Therian446 your a monster

[@Fox_Therian446]

@@Soulizko_ko Sure am

[@Soulizko_ko]

@@Fox_Therian446 *monster*

[@anartistig9128]

LUNER DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER!!! IM SO PROUD OF MY BABY FOR STANDING UP FOR HIMSELF!!!!

[@samidiaz3832]

Know what *takes Lunar with me so we can have sleepover and gives him cookies that robot can eat and protect him* 4:12 Yeah you tell em !! 4:40 NO LUNAR 5:26 YEAHHH 6:54 I hope Moon can hear that rn 7:19 wait- IS THIS THE GUY THAT *wheeze*

[@MegasharkZdaplays]

Yep

[@exacutionpoints8908]

can i join?

[@MegasharkZdaplays]

@@exacutionpoints8908 ok

[@MegasharkZdaplays]

@Anonymous Kid awesome

[@Enderwaveslay]

omg the memories of returning to this are insane rn

[@Pine-qpple098]

Fr

[@Whatlander]

I could not care less if Eclipse apologizes or feels guilty. Abusers do that; it's just accurate storytelling, not a redeeming quality. I'm happy for Lunar getting fed up and refusing to have daily "checkups." Definitely concerned about Eclipse doing something with the little remote control body, though. Hope he didn't just download Lunar's memories or initiate a shutdown. Why is that thing programmed to collect money, anyway? And Lunar 100% can eat anything metal - shouldn't Eclipse know that? Sun must be making some headway if Eclipse is losing his handful of braincells.

[@FluffyDragonDrawing]

People are talking about it because it's the first time we've seen him be remorseful. It alone is not enough to be a redeeming quality, no... But it's _potential_ for there to be something that happens. Up until this point, he's been shown to never care or think twice about his actions or and form of guilt. Sure, that's something that some abusers do, but not all of them. Some people simply do not have any form of empathy, any ability to care about someone else; and they always perceive themselves in the right. In this case, Eclipse admits that he, ultimately, recognizes that he was in the wrong, which is the first time we've seen that from him. It's not to say "Oh he's not bad" or something, but it's the first time we've seen that side; and it's a potential side of him to grow as well.

[@CL0WNP4RTY]

​@@FluffyDragonDrawing No, not really. As someone who's been abused by my own mother who claims to have loved me since I was born, it's not potential. Abusers will *always* lean back on their abusive traits even if they try to get better, once physical abuse begins there's literally no going back, and no matter how guilty they feel they'll keep making the same mistakes they used to whether they care or not and forgiving them will only get you stuck in a toxic relationship regardless of if you care for each other. There's no potential, the only potential I hope they give Eclipse is Lunar finally leaving him for the betterment of himself because forgiving Eclipse for any of this isn't and shouldn't be an option or it's just gonna teach kids that if someone abuses you and apologizes then you should just "get over it" or keep forgiving them if they do it again. I know you'll probably agree with a lot of this, but I have seen and will continue to see people who genuinely think this false remorse means Eclipse is "good deep down" and that's not how abuse works, it's the uncomfy truth but it's the truth nonetheless- so there *are* people out there talking about this as if this is some form of redeeming quality for Eclipse and I'm kinda scared that stigma is gonna grow overwhelmingly in the fandom when I just want Lunar *away* from Eclipse, permanently.

[@Blue-xn6gg]

@@CL0WNP4RTY Literally, thank you. Sorry you had to go through that, btw.

[@FluffyDragonDrawing]

@@CL0WNP4RTY I respect your experiences and I'm incredibly sorry to hear you have gone through that. It's a horrible thing to have experienced. I personally, am of the belief that it's never too late to change. It may be challenging, and extremely hard to unlearn everything, but it's still always worth trying. That does not, however, negate their negative actions in any way. Those are still their actions, and they should still be held accountable for them. But I do believe they _can_ change who they are, on a fundamental level, with enough work, and the right resources (therapists and such.) Of course, a lot of abusers _do_ say that. And maybe they mean it, but continue to do the same things over and over again. This is not to invalidate that fact. A lot use their guilt as a tactic to be let back into their victims lives, to get off scott free. I've seen it, although on a much smaller scale than you have said. Just because he says he's guilty, doesn't mean he is, effectively, guilty. And I wasn't trying to imply it was anything but that. I am not trying to imply that Lunar should ever forgive Eclipse. (unfortunately, I do think he _will_ because he is incredibly naive.) but that is not my point. Even _if_ someone has changed, their victims don't have to forgive them; That is never required, and I honestly wish we would move away from that mindset. Up until now, I had perceived Eclipse as someone unable to feel remorse. A completely apathetic, narcissist, and slightly sadistic individual. That he never gives his actions a second thought, and never will. That he saw, and felt, Lunar was nothing more than an inanimate object- completely incapable of even _perceiving_ the latter feelings as being significant. But the fact he was talking to _himself_ not to lunar, about his own guilt, means that- although it may mean nothing at this time- he is _physically capable_ of it. _That_ is what I mean when I say potential. Not that he is a good person. Not that he is going to be good from here on out. I don't think at this time his actions are going to change, and he's suddenly going to be better. No... He's going to keep going as it is. But the fact that he's _capable of feeling_ that, means he might, in the future, _potentially_, MIGHT realize the errors of his ways. That it is physically _possible_ for him to put the foot down and actually try to stop. That's what I mean by potential. Not that he IS good or that Lunar should stay around him, and forgive him.

[@CL0WNP4RTY]

​@@FluffyDragonDrawing There's people who honestly think Eclipse genuinely feels bad when he threatened to *KILL* Lunar for the star without even a second thought about it? If he felt genuine remorse about slapping Lunar why didn't he feel guilty for attempting to *kill* Lunar? That's backwards logic and it doesn't sit right with me. Even if Eclipse ends up changing for the better, that does not mean their relationship has to be mended, he doesn't deserve that even if he is forgiven. Adding onto this, but if we were talking about strictly mental abuse, then second chances could be a thing- but we're talking about mental AND *physical* abuse, which is 10x worse and is actually disgusting. No one should be forgiven for laying their hand on you in a violent way. Adding onto this again, this isn't malicious it's just a discussion, I know you aren't defending abuse in any way lmao. I'm just super tired of people trying to give guilt over physical abuse some sort of hope that it can get better because even if that can happen it *shouldn't* happen and with all of these comments I have a huge feeling it's what the Sun and Moon channel is gonna end up doing now- making Lunar forgive Eclipse for all the abuse then everything is "hunky dory" or whatever. This is mostly to give others who do believe this stuff some insight on why that's bad. Actually adding onto what you said again for the 3rd time my bad lol: The guilt Eclipse felt could've possibly been Sun's personality leaking into his, they did mention that Sun and Eclipse share traits at some point but I don't remember the exact wording and when it was said.

[@LadyFurina1st]

4:43 BRO GOT SLAPPED LIKE HOW ANGEL DUST SLAPPED VALENTINO THATS CRAZY

[@dubs67]

STOP 😭😭🙏🙏

[@CocoatheSAMSfan]

BRUHH

[@aRandomTalkingMushroom]

Lunar be like; "Shove it down your servo" made me laugh so hard

[@Opossumstew]

We all love you Lunar! Good job standing up for yourself there!

[@Opossumstew]

Maybe Eclipse is redeemable after all? He's not forgiven at all, but maybe he can learn to love?

[@n-0697]

be quite

[@Opossumstew]

@@n-0697 ?

[@StarryInkArt]

Eclipse no matter how much you try to distance yourself away from Sun or Moon, they will always be a part of you. You will always care for Lunar because he is your brother. Its good to feel. P.s I dont know if this may be right, but I feel that Eclipse starting to care about Lunar may start to foreshadow that due to him working with others such as Roxanne and "Lunar" (even if it is in his own sick way), he may not be able to go through with whatever hes planning or hesitate as time goes on. Then Bloodmoon was right about Eclipse being weak, and Bloodmoon will end up trying to go through with the plan instead.😅

[@ChriseanMcInnis]

Love how Eclipse gives himself a negative pep-talk. Gave Monty some juicy info.

[@moanas9305]

i didnt even see the video but i swear if eclipse did what the title says i will scream and tear him apart, lunar if ur out there go to monty he will probably protect u and ull have somebody who actually cares about u and talk with moon they all would help u and protect u.

[@ZePcreations]

I love that they showed that Eclipse secretly cares about Lunar, but Eclipse probably thinks that caring shows weakness and that's why he isn't telling Lunar about what he is feeling. I'm so invested in this! Cant wait for the next video!😁😆

[@I_watch_you_while_you_sleep]

I knew this would happen sometime. Edit: 5:26

[@g0r3.k1tt3n]

I love how Solar (Eclipse -_-) is slowly realizing that he’s losing control over Lunar, and he’s not helping his case, and tricking himself into thinking that he just doesn’t understand or things like that, but he understands perfectly. Also, another thing is that he still cares about lunar, but tries not to show it, probably because he’s thinking things like “don’t show weakness, love makes you weak”

[@jamesrisch4513]

Eclipse keeps saying lunar screws everything up when he's really the one that's screwing it up himself

[@CasinoBendy]

When I saw Eclipse slap lunar, it filled me with rage, because Lunar didn’t do anything. All he did was stand up for himself.

[@Solar_Flare.]

The pic for the vid is absolutely heart breaking. Poor. Bean

[@R3inatunes]

This video has been such a roller coaster of emotions. Cuz first I was angry and then I was proud and then when that tiny robot came I was just very confused

[@Theatricsanddramatics]

LUNAR REALIZING AND FINALLY JUST KINDA CLARIFYING TO HIMSELF THAT ECLIPSE IS AWFUL AND NEVER CARED IS THE BEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN OML

[@horsewings3561]

Wow I'm surprised eclipse even CONSIDERED apologizing AND admitted that he actually cares for him before denying it. Also good job standing up for yourself lunar.

[@cindypicadomolina7814]

Ok, that ending of the "Fee Bot" actually made me feel better. Lunar's little "Sorry Moon" was too cute 🥺

[@flowerchild7027]

Aww Eclipse- Caring is okay ya know? You did make him to be your counter part and you're starting to see him as a brother; And good on ya Lunar- For standing up for yourself : )

[@leahlombaxrivet0263]

This is like someone who asks a friend to create them a beautiful painting, they hang it on the wall, but they get tired of it and they start using it as a door mat. That friend would be angry and deeply hurt to find out that they started using it in ways it was not meant to be used for.

[@Chesterandhisfandoms]

I love the ending when he pays the robot with Moons money and simply says “SoRry MoOn:)”

[@mwags_fnaf]

Lunar does not deserve to be slapped, he deserves a hug!!! 🫂 ❤ (our sweet bean)

[@onnycarrasco370]

I’m so proud of Lunar because people can’t be bossing him around it’s his decision if he wants to go out it’s not other peoples you did a good job ❤🎉😊

[@k0ma3da.nagit0]

oh great, knew this would come sooner or later. im so proud of lunar for standing up for himself. but eclipse SLAPPING HIM!? heck no!!!!

[@kanao_13681]

THANK YOU

[@Star._.Eclipse]

glad to see Lunar stand up for himself also i wish Eclipse would not hide the fact he cares for Lunar

[@Theatricsanddramatics]

Lunar telling Eclipse to not touch him makes me feel so proud, and Eclipse hitting him is making me feel like doing a funny little thing called murder

[@Tfg_fan_forever]

Agree

[@eternallylearning2811]

I'm feeling more sickened cause up until now I thought he was doing all these things outta his moon obsession and now I'm picturing him doing untalkable stuff to moon each tuning

[@ArtsnCraftSlayer]

@@eternallylearning2811 Oh lord-

[@thewolfmations9384]

I love that lunar stand up for himself not caring a sh*t about eclipse

[@cosmicaster995]

I was clenching my fist almost the whole video. I think Eclipse was lying when he said that Lunar would start malfunctioning if he missed a day of tune-ups. He was just fine every time before this using Moon's body, even when he accidentally trapped Moon in his head for a week. I don't know how the spell they used is affecting them in their borrowed bodies, since it was different than what Sun and Moon used the first time. But Eclipse seems fine without any "tune-ups" if he even is doing them to himself. I bet he's just doing it to keep his control over Lunar intact because of what happened with Blood Moon; he's taking extra caution to make sure he doesn't lose control again over his "toy." And to probably check in on Moon's suffering. I legit thought Eclipse was gonna force Lunar into submission with his special button. I'm happy he didn't but still pissed that he SLAPPED our precious Lunar. He finally built up the courage (and maybe anger) to tell Eclipse not to touch him and to basically "fuck off." XD I'm so proud of you, baby! I know extremely deep down Eclipse somewhat cares about Lunar. I mean, he does have a lot of Moon's personality but he also has some of Sun's as well. Meaning he can't fully push down or ignore his brotherly nature. Granted, he could've fooled me if it were for the part when he considered apologizing and kind of regretting and asking himself why he hit Lunar. This gives me hope that he could be redeemed. Hopefully. At the end when the little bot came walking up, I thought it was Blood Moon for a second. But then I noticed the color wasn't red. Who else could it be other than the creator? As far as we know, no one else other than BM and the creator has that little bot body. The only other person that might have one would be Monty? Maybe he built one while in hiding to keep an eye on Lunar in secret? Who knows. But the asking for a fee part definitely tipped me off to it being the creator or Monty. Cuz it happened the first time we saw the creator and we all know how Monty is money. But hey, might just be me who thinks this.

[@VTFpersonal]

mmm the bot belonging to to monty may be true, but the fact the bot used Eclipse voice has odd ,but maybe it s was an error in the editing .. but now yooouu got me thinking that Monty may show up again, and this time with a finish plan!

[@cosmicaster995]

@@VTFpersonal I was thinking the same about the bot's voice. The shows got me digging into every detail trying to figure out the lore😅

[@VTFpersonal]

@@cosmicaster995 saameeeeee hha I hope to see your theories again !

[@cosmicaster995]

@@VTFpersonal Aw, thx. I post a comment on almost every video😁

[@VTFpersonal]

@@cosmicaster995 same! I will look for you :D

[@Diluc_Sells_Wine_Not_For_Kayea]

I'm quite impressed that Luner stood up to himself tbh but also sad about Luner getting hit too

[@alliewilson]

Noooo! Poor Lunar! 😭💙 I'm so sorry you have to deal with that you precious bean! 🥺💙😢 Please take as much time as you need away from Eclipse.💙

[@SunshineXRayz]

2:43 eclipses avatar doing the falling thing for 2 seconds absolutely killed me 😭

[@Radi0.D3mon-kys]

im proud of lunar for sticking up for himself

[@Sora_art]

4:40 My heart started to beat faster, like i was there. It really hurted me, you know emotionally/mentally.

[@Anthxnycore]

Haven't watched it yet but already sobbing just from the title 👍

[@allthememesnewandold5484]

Dang this episode was amazing also I love the little bot From the “Sun and moon meet their creator” episode cam back

[@Swad_and_Darling]

Lunar your imagination is adorable

[@cadaverous6]

I am so proud of Lunar! He’s growing up in a way. He deserves a lot better.

[@Ellabellaz27]

5:50 Eclipse is completely different now, he doesn’t care anymore ):

[@Yazora_draws]

6:01 he cared just a little it seems but it makes it so sad 😢but good job lunar for standing your ground 😊

[@bethmaggie4114]

lunar betrays eclipse, stands up for himself, then finds who ever the “pay 5 dollars” guy is

[@MoonyBOIII]

Eclipse staring at his hand and wondering "why did I do that?" gives me hope that he's still redeemable. He seemed to genuinely feel guilty about hurting Lunar and such, but he's so dead-set on his goal of complete control with the star that he forces that remorse down. It's probably wishful thinking, but I really want Eclipse to get redeemed😭