It took me thirteen years to realize the duality at play in this scene: When Peter is at his lowest point, he recognizes what he's done and takes steps to make things right. When Eddie is at his lowest point, he refuses to accept what he's done and wants to hurt other people. Peter goes to a church to take the first steps to redemption and ultimately gets it. Eddie goes to a church seeking revenge and is ultimately destroyed. The symbiote corrupted Peter, but because he is, at his core, a good person, he managed to break free. Because Eddie is, at his core, is a selfish, cruel person, the symbiote utterly corrupted him and led to his death. Spider-Man 3 is a lot smarter than many people think.
@konnichiwa87624 жыл бұрын
I really love how they portray Peter tried to fight against the evil that corrupted him while Eddie accept the new power that came from the evil as a way to get revenge
@LexCrafttoons3 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 3 isn't necesarily a bad movie, it's just..... unfocused is what I'd call it. It's been said before but they tried to juggle too many plots at the same time, Venom, Harry as the second Green Goblin and Sandman all crammed in 2 and a half hours. (Wow, that's actually longer than expected.) Had they just focused on only adapting the Black Suit/Venom Saga, I imagine it could've been the best in the trilogy. Or maybe even franchise, as there would've been a Spider-Man 4 and maybe 5 in which they could've done the other two stories. They could've explored where the symbiote came from, (I don't think it ever happens in the movie, does it? I vaguely recall a scene where Peter has the symbiote examined by Dr. Connors but that might not be this movie.) How the city responded to their hero suddenly wearing all-black, how even before the symbiote, Eddie got screwed over by Peter, even if unintentionally. I think the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon did that last thing very well.
@wowdevon18933 жыл бұрын
@@LexCrafttoons Its in this movie. Doctor Connors only really explains that it needed a host to bind with and that he wonders where Peter got it from. Also hi,,
@Former_Halo_Fan3 жыл бұрын
Actually no. The symbiote didn't corrupt Spiderman. Spiderman corrupted the symbiote. You have to understand. Symbiotes, in nature, are creatures that require another species to survive, but also offer something in return. A remora is a type of symbiote, for example - it's a fish that latches onto the bellies of sharks, and eats the parasites in their skin. The shark has to lug this smaller fish around for a bit, but it's worth it because the remora keeps it healthy. And it's no coincidence that Marvel chose to give the name 'symbiote' to the alien that infected Peter and Eddie. The Venom Symbiote is an alien. It does not understand human morality. When it bonded with Peter, it's first exposure to the human way of thinking and interacting was entirely through Peter's eyes. The thing is, Peter Parker isn't a normal human. He's a mess. He lives two lives - one where he is a hero who goes around saving the city, and the other where he is a reclusive nerd who is bullied and mocked on a regular basis. He allows himself to be bullied and mocked because he doesn't want to abuse his powers or draw attention to himself, but at the same time he resents the way he is treated. At the same time he also takes pride in his role as a hero, but he resents how certain parts of the city are determined to slander him by portraying him as a villain or a dangerous vigilante. So the symbiote looks at this and is confused. It doesn't make sense. But it's still a symbiote, and since Peter is keeping it alive, it wants to help Peter in return. So it tries to find ways to make Peter more successful and happy. Unfortunately, a lot of the successful and happy people in Peter's life and the city as a whole are assholes, so there aren't many positive examples to go off of. The symbiote sees all these confident, assertive dickbags going through life finding success, love, and money, and decides that the best way for Peter to succeed is to come out of his shell, stop being modest, and emulate them. It doesn't understand how this behaviour is immoral or obnoxious - it assumes that it's just the norm for humans. Spiderman eventually notices the effect the symbiote is having on him, and decides he doesn't want it. So, he tries to kill it. And how does he try to kill it? In the most painful way possible - exposing it to its primary weakness. Look at it from the symbiote's perspective: you've spent weeks trying to bond with this guy and help him get out of a dark period of his life, and in return he tries to torture you to death in the most painful way possible for you. Now let's look at Eddie. Eddie in the movie is depicted as far more malicious than he was in the comics. Comic Eddie was actually a good, decent guy, until Spiderman indirectly and unintentionally screwed his life over. He was publicly humiliated, he lost his job, and he lost his girlfriend. In the comics, Eddie didn't go to that church to ask God to kill Peter Parker - he went there to beg forgiveness and then kill himself. It's possible he was planning to kill himself in the movie, too. And this is where Eddie and the Venom Symbiote bond; when both are at their absolute lowest points. Venom has just been betrayed and tortured by Spiderman, while Eddie no longer has a reason to live and thinks Spiderman is at least partially responsible for the state he is in. When they merge, it's not as simple as "the symbiote corrupted Eddie." They corrupted each other. Their shared hatred of Spiderman made them obsessed with killing him, and their shared victim complex caused them both to become selfish and out for themselves. That, and the fact that the Venom Symbiote still felt it was its duty to help its host, and one of the main things which prevented Eddie from being happy was the resentment he held toward Peter. So by the Symbiote's logic, the best way to help Eddie is to kill Peter Parker so that Eddie can move on with his life. TL;DR: The Symbiote is neither corrupting nor malicious. It was actually trying to help Peter, but it didn't understand humans so it accidentally made things worse. Peter, not understanding the Symbiote's intentions, tried to torture it to death. The Symbiote, feeling vengeful and betrayed, bonded with Eddie, who was in a state of intense depression and anger. Neither Eddie nor the Symbiote were in a state where they could healthily process what they were feeling or help each other overcome it, so instead they both became even more toxic - more Venomous, you could say. In the end, it was humanity which corrupted the Symbiote - not the other way around.
@nas95663 жыл бұрын
@@Former_Halo_Fan dang bro you spent like 7 minutes on that comment lol but good point of view
@dpchief_2164 жыл бұрын
Something occurred to me after watching this scene again. Right after that small piece of the symbiote touched Eddie’s jacket, the rest of it basically gives up on Peter and goes straight for Eddie. Like it had a taste of someone with sweet murderous hate and and preferred it over the stale bland guilt. Love little touches like this!
@mckinnellfamilytrio57524 жыл бұрын
That’s cool
@mmlya60264 жыл бұрын
99th like also lmao
@ALJR_YT4 жыл бұрын
All the times that I've watched this movie and I never even noticed that, good observation!
@sheleryshtickproductions70704 жыл бұрын
Dang dude
@peaceunion53164 жыл бұрын
Tasted someone who hated peter, just as the symbiote did by being rejected by him
@siddharth_07713 жыл бұрын
The fact that Eddie really took the advice of him seriously and went to church is hilarious
@JohnJones-lb6xo3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@searchingforfoodonyoutube25003 жыл бұрын
⛪ at night
@Chadmiral3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@kylerdrawz90613 жыл бұрын
*“You want forgiveness? Get religion.”*
@keon2003 жыл бұрын
@@kylerdrawz9061 *cringe*
@John-ns5se Жыл бұрын
I love how Raimi uses the black suit to tackle adult themes like addiction in a way that kids or young adults could understand. Most notably stuff like lust, substance abuse, greed, pride, anger, etc. And have an arc dedicated to overcoming it and how it’s not easy. Just like with all unhealthy addictions it starts off feeling good and you think you have control of it but then eventually you lose yourself without realizing it and it affects every area of your life including the people you care about and you become an an entirely different person. Once you acknowledge you have a problem and need to change it’s not easy to break. I don’t think Raimi got enough credit for it back in the day but I’m glad a lot of people are realizing it now.
@emilyandrews9857 Жыл бұрын
Your comment is well said.
@dmitriydubovetsky5778 Жыл бұрын
As like in their final fight Peter said: "I know what it feels like... The power, everything... But you lose yourself to it, let it go..."
@hannahlarocco4699 Жыл бұрын
What’s your point
@John-ns5se Жыл бұрын
@@hannahlarocco4699 if you read my comment you would know what my point is. I was pointing out how I liked how Sam Raimi used the black suit to tackle themes like addiction and substance abuse in a way kids could understand. Peter displayed all signs of an addict in this movie when used the black suit which as a result he hurt the people closest to him which is why he knew he was far gone and hadn’t realized it until it was too late and knew he had to let it go.
@e-davidi.7354 Жыл бұрын
@@hannahlarocco4699 If you still don’t get the point from this well detailed comment, then you need to work on your reading comprehension skills.
@snitchbstudios3 жыл бұрын
Everyone's talking about Eddie's prayer. All I can think about is how Peter had to web swing back to his apartment, naked in the rain without anyone seeing him.
@bullymaguire66573 жыл бұрын
It was not so easy.
@devoidsharlo91763 жыл бұрын
He can make clothes from his web.
@3motionaldamag33 жыл бұрын
@@devoidsharlo9176 True.
@3motionaldamag33 жыл бұрын
@Fuck KZbin It's better than being freezing cold.
@3motionaldamag33 жыл бұрын
@Fuck KZbin What if he needed to wax that day?
@Guccimustard3 жыл бұрын
Tobey’s Spiderman was such a beast that he had villains praying for his death 💀
@king_bowser5933 жыл бұрын
@Wasa Few no peter is good person it was bully maguier
@whogoncutdagrass413 жыл бұрын
The black suit you mean lol
@muhammadfaisalfachrurrozy12033 жыл бұрын
Its not Spider-Man.. Its Bully Maguire, he's too OP
@vastta3 жыл бұрын
he literally had people praying on his downfall
@Howlingburd193 жыл бұрын
Peter: “You want forgiveness? Get religion” [Eddie Brock literally goes to church]
@Erricane Жыл бұрын
No matter what, this version of him getting the Symbiote off of him is the best. The way how the suit keeps trying to reconnect itself whenever he tries ripping it off is so satisfying to watch. As much as I love Insomniac's version of the black suit, Sam Raimi really nailed the Symbiote removal scene.
@myarmsrgone8 ай бұрын
I love how it kinda looks like little hands clinging to him
@Ligmanuttz7 ай бұрын
It’s genius but creepy like a little demon trying to grab him
@rusty79847 ай бұрын
He literally prayed on a man’s downfall he is more devious that Tom Hardy Venom imagine just how deranged and outright petty you have to be to pray on your enemies downfall
@ClaudioMCCallister4 ай бұрын
@@myarmsrgone me too i love seeing his muscles under the suit and its so satisfying to see him getting off the symbiote. its perfect.
@GojiBoiEarth19643 жыл бұрын
Eddie: I’m sitting here humbled and humiliated. Jesus: Gonna cry?
@reniemiller11663 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😭😭😭
@yurinalanaid20603 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@CDot-vd3kt3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@mindhalf1353 жыл бұрын
Lmao underrated
@thepillow13-v2c3 жыл бұрын
@@mindhalf135 AMONG US 🥶🥶😳
@MegaDrain3 жыл бұрын
Even though Spiderman 3 wasn't originally supposed to have Venom, I'm still shocked at how good the symbiote looks in this film. 14 years later and this still looks absolutely gorgeous.
@cliffturbo21463 жыл бұрын
I am one of those who actually like that Venom was included.
@enzoviana5013 жыл бұрын
the symbiote of this movie is beautiful! Way better than that slimy ball we got in Venom (2018)
@user-xd9ko7ib3w3 жыл бұрын
Actually I don't like this venom at all, but raimi black suit is the most badass suit for spidey imo.
@BananaHoovyJ.Rabbit3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention just how fucking horrifying the transformation Eddie went through was.
@mikatoka2.0503 жыл бұрын
@@enzoviana501 the new venom is cringe
@rachelknightonline3 жыл бұрын
All fan rage and issues aside, EVERYTHING about this scene -The music -The cinematography -The pacing -Visuals -sound design -Tobey Maguire’s physical acting - Topher Grace’s desperation All of it is amazing. I truly feel like Spider-Man 3 is a movie made of individual scenes, rather than a movie made of a solid/functional narrative
@Mantodeaa3 жыл бұрын
Exactly man
@GNo033 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I think! This movie has so many great scenes, but altogether it’s just a mess
@IIIISai3 жыл бұрын
well said
@rafdor51313 жыл бұрын
True
@TheAurelianProject3 жыл бұрын
It just shows how skilled Raimi was. He was forced into making an overcrowded narrative but he still manages to do the best he can.
@marcosvas31 Жыл бұрын
The metaphorical justice in this scene is just awesome writing. Eddie turns to God and dares to ask him to strike Peter down with anger and vengeance, so God punishes Eddie instead. Beautiful scene.
@connorhilchie2779 Жыл бұрын
One detail I never noticed as a kid is that Eddie transformed into Venom while on an image of a cross. God killed the evil in Peter so he could cleanse himself of the suit, while also forcing Eddie's evil out to show just how much of a monster he is
@kuyachamp76183 жыл бұрын
Eddie asked God to kill Peter. God responds by killing the evil in Peter and that evil fell to Eddie as punishment. This is probably one of my favorite scenes in a movie.
@saint83503 жыл бұрын
Not how God works
@MyBitch9253 жыл бұрын
@@saint8350 ok but its a joke
@boymancinder20003 жыл бұрын
@@saint8350 you don't know how God does his work. Nobody does. Edit: if you're going to make an argument with me, don't. The issue (that wouldn't be here if someone knows, understands and accepts that different countries have differing beliefs) has been resolved.
@saint83503 жыл бұрын
@@boymancinder2000 spiritually blind people like you won't see or understand spiritual things.
@boymancinder20003 жыл бұрын
@@saint8350 mhm. If you're not "spiritually blind", as you put it, how does God works then? Please enlighten this mind and body of mine that grew out of touch light! Seriously though, since you had the audacity to call me spiritually blind, I expect that you aren't. Now tell me how God works.
@bichoraro2155 Жыл бұрын
Peter trying to get rid of venom is EXACTLY how addiction feels.
@daveeg7008 Жыл бұрын
Wow this was powerful..
@terrencejenkins2322 Жыл бұрын
My dude this comment hit me very deeply cause I’m a recovering addict and I felt that.. now when I watch this scene I’ll remember what you said
@Echolightr Жыл бұрын
I needed to hear that
@Living_Soul54 Жыл бұрын
More truth than one will ever know.
@antoniozvl4562 Жыл бұрын
When I'm top of a church hitting a bell repeatedly to get rid of my addiction and my addictions falls on someone who prayed to God for my death and I fall unconscious
@ShFred3 жыл бұрын
Considering how Venom was literally forced into the movie by Sony, Raimi still did an excellent job with the story arc and everything.
@Therighthanddon3 жыл бұрын
If they had just kept sandman as the primary villain, had goblin as a villain turned anti hero without venom in the picture, It would have been a better narrative. Albeit not a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination
@ShFred3 жыл бұрын
@@Therighthanddon Agreed. But I can't deny it, without Venom, we would never have this legendary scene and more importantly... The dark suit theme!
@Therighthanddon3 жыл бұрын
@@ShFred very true. That just goes to show how talented Sam raimi as a director. Even when he is forced to include elements that he believes don’t belong he still makes a good run of it
@SpinoRexzillaEN253 жыл бұрын
@@ShFred Some people say the movie should've ended here and Spider-Man 4 would've then started off from that.
@jayambrose61843 жыл бұрын
@@ShFred they should have only had the black suit in it then have venom for the 4th movie
@zyexio Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite scenes ever. Even the CGI! Just the ruthlessness of him ripping it off but the Symbiote’s desperation to stay on him so it tries recovering was so fascinating!
@andreplayboi22moneymaker Жыл бұрын
& thanks god that Bell noises is the cure for Peter to remove the symbiote
@cobraverse0811 ай бұрын
@@andreplayboi22moneymakerI feel like he could've done it either way it would just take a while
@andreplayboi22moneymaker11 ай бұрын
@@cobraverse08 I know
@stevencao08123 жыл бұрын
Peter taking off the symbiote is exactly how it feels to take off a wet shirt
@Brad025263 жыл бұрын
ITS HARD AS HELL 😂 Edit (2022): *I regret commenting this because of the comments below. 💀*
@treyvonwilliams3 жыл бұрын
@@Brad02526 ikr
@masterkai59463 жыл бұрын
Well now we know what a symbiote feels like 😂😂
@mattthesilent777RED3 жыл бұрын
More like an elastic one-piece that fits you exactly
@t1vi1013 жыл бұрын
This is accurate af
@huntercool22323 жыл бұрын
Eddie: “I want you to kill Peter Parker.” Jesus: “Son, that’s not how I roll?”
@reidrzl_3 жыл бұрын
@@bethcail976 wow so edgy
@diollinebranderson65533 жыл бұрын
@@bethcail976 oooooo u sO cOoL yUo DoNt fOlLoW tHe NoRm
@PrinceJes3 жыл бұрын
@@bethcail976 My fingernails are also painted black💅
@jtru65153 жыл бұрын
This reply section 🤣🤣🤣
@breadnacom98973 жыл бұрын
@Edward Garcia I mean, God has historically killed millions of people. If you like to believe that nonesense, that is.
@parrymylogicthen2902 жыл бұрын
The fact that spiderman is strong as hell yet struggling to rip the symbiot from his body just make this scene 10x better.
@Rizzy-Bizzy20 Жыл бұрын
It’s pretty much stuck to his skeleton so it would take a massive amount of force to remove it.
@usuario15965 Жыл бұрын
The only way a normal human could remove it is with the strongest machine removal and vybrations ever
@DarrenJohansenLesmana Жыл бұрын
Actcully the bell helped him right?
@S-Fan2006 Жыл бұрын
@@DarrenJohansenLesmana Yes. I’m pretty sure that was part of what led to Peter figuring out that the symbiote hates loud noises in the climax.
@HurAli173 Жыл бұрын
@@Rizzy-Bizzy20wdym stuck to his skeleton when he could just take the suit off
@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs Жыл бұрын
It's easy to forget, but Peter is actually inhumanly strong and could punch the skeleton out of you if he so desired. For him to struggle with the symbiote and needing to exploit it's weakness to sound to get it off is a testament to the symbiote's own alien endurance.
@aaronkenyon7112 Жыл бұрын
Right? A regular human has no hope of getting it off if he had such a hard time
@DQBlizzard_ Жыл бұрын
Its also metaphorical, the sins and desires the power gave him are hard to get rid of once you get a taste
@tashatrapeznikova5963 жыл бұрын
The shot and music at 0:30 when he is sitting like this, in black costume and then not just jumping, but falling... oh... just iconic... a masterpiece
@LauSymphonicMetal3 жыл бұрын
He falls but he uses his web. Look closely.
@rambokills27503 жыл бұрын
@@LauSymphonicMetal yo WTF I just now saw that
@its18993 жыл бұрын
i kinda like this movie myself, but man you people just try to find every little thing to like about this and call it a masterpiece
@krustyman51513 жыл бұрын
@@its1899 Well it is a great shot, tbh anything with the black suit in this movie is great
@Popcornnugget3 жыл бұрын
@@its1899 When they released the poster that had him in the black suit sitting at the top of the church looking down was mad fire and everyone back then was going insane the shit was like avengers endgame
@BurningBushProductions3 жыл бұрын
I un-ironically love this scene. It’s my favorite interpretation of Peter getting rid of the suit. The visuals and sound design make it look like he’s trying to peel off a layer of skin with how well they’ve bonded. Then the fact he becomes more successful when the suit gets a taste of Eddy leaves you wondering if Peter succeeded, or if the symbiote gave up the fight. It’s so good for so many reasons. I un-apologetically love this film.
@ashlirabid96143 жыл бұрын
There's nothing bad about this scene. There's no need to use the word 'in-ironic' that's not even a real word.
@BurningBushProductions3 жыл бұрын
@@ashlirabid9614 Indeed “in-ironic” isn’t a real word. “Unironically” however (I mistakingly put a hyphen in it, so you got me there) is indeed a real word. You can Google it. Maybe we can just both agree this scene is great instead of nitpicking each other’s comments though 😁
@axyspianostudio3 жыл бұрын
@@BurningBushProductions if i had a nickel for everytime you used "un", I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice
@BurningBushProductions3 жыл бұрын
@@axyspianostudio That’s pretty unbelievable! 😂
@slylancey3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! I truly think it was a little bit of both. I think Venom gave up on Peter not just because he got a taste of Eddie, but I think the suit maybe sensed that Peter would rather die with the suit than be controlled by it. Kind of like in the Web of Shadow Comic
@TheFirehands1504 жыл бұрын
The irony of this scene is that evil Peter Parker "dies" as Eddie asked for. Peter is reborn as his true self.
@SpaceClord4 жыл бұрын
Hey, that actually makes senses!
@daigonmocs07854 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Eddie was gonna try and scoop Peter
@angadjoshi79094 жыл бұрын
Your comment is far better than those stupid retarded shitty gag comment "How did he web swing naked"
@wchambers114 жыл бұрын
@@daigonmocs0785 What do you mean "scoop"?
@Diego-uf7ge4 жыл бұрын
We could say that Peter freed himself from sin, from the evil that was in him, that's why it took him so long to get rid of the suit. In addition, he had already committed many evils, so it would be increasingly difficult to get rid of him. We could also conjecture that Eddie fell into a very great evil and that is why Venom caught him.
@mwakaa6907 Жыл бұрын
1:48 This moment is so well done, for the first time on the movie we finally saw the real monster behind the suit.
@SlashyK_Ultimate4 ай бұрын
I liked that part too
@miguelrivas66693 жыл бұрын
The fact that Eddie was able to recognize peter from that distance is hilarious.
@dashsoulsthehornyone91253 жыл бұрын
Lmao i never realize that
@icycooldefaultguy3 жыл бұрын
Probably the way he was screaming
@Krakayoa3 жыл бұрын
Also why wouldn’t he just swing up there and kill him now that he is Venom and Peter is laying there weak af ? 😂
@miguelrivas66693 жыл бұрын
@@Krakayoa very true man LMAO.
@Bloodhurl673 жыл бұрын
@@Krakayoa That is an... interesting point.
@EK63315 Жыл бұрын
A couple key symbolic things I noticed, cause this scene is absolutely stuffed with details: -Eddie actually goes to church after Peter tells him "You want forgiveness? Get religion", but its for the opposite of forgiveness -The shot of Eddie entering the church is filmed with his reflection upside down in the holy water, signifying his life turning upside down -Eddie quite literally hears a bell when he asks for Peter's death, which brings him to where he gets the power to do so -Peter is up on high, getting rid of the evil (venom), while Eddie is down low asking for a bad deed and gets consumed by the evil -The church being a place people go to repent is fittingly the setting for Peter's repentance, but its the opposite for Eddie because he is full of hatred and desire to sin
@mottom2657 Жыл бұрын
Nice observation!
@FireBen31 Жыл бұрын
Oh so Peter is trying to forgive himself for what he has done because of the symbiote and Eddie is literally doing the wrong thing.
@emilyandrews9857 Жыл бұрын
@@FireBen31, Eddie asked God to kill Peter is not a good choice. WWJD🙏🕊
@Jakesterpop1 Жыл бұрын
Devils don't come from underground. They come from the sky.
@cxrpsie Жыл бұрын
Badass Observation
@SheistyMonstas2 жыл бұрын
Hearing Tobey’s screams of struggle and pain always sent chills through my body as a little a kid and still does to this day
@zrtbcstudio51332 жыл бұрын
qwerftlo
@gamegame97152 жыл бұрын
Ko ớn
@ccelite37822 жыл бұрын
The Symbiote was APART of him. You know how painful ripping a band-aid off is? Imagine that but 100x worse all around your body
@aranighosh39452 жыл бұрын
@@nazimahdollip-abdoollah4587 in the 1994 spiderman tv series, it was painful to take off the symbiote too.
@aranighosh39452 жыл бұрын
@@nazimahdollip-abdoollah4587 But Spidey was finding it painful while the bell was ringing. Obviously since it was a kids cartoon the timespan was shortened
@jackmcmorrow93978 ай бұрын
Peter lying in the clock tower naked, symbolizing his rebirth as a better man and his rejection of the Symbiote's evil is so fucking cool.
@Not_the_wiggles2 жыл бұрын
I just realized Peter has super strength, imagine a regular human trying to rip off the venom suit
@mdsaad87112 жыл бұрын
He was able to do it with the help of the soundshocks of the large bell that makes the symbiote weak... 😉
@jimmy68392 жыл бұрын
@@mdsaad8711 even with the sounds of the bell you wouldn't be able to take it off
@thekingofball23412 жыл бұрын
@@jimmy6839 yes you would. That was the point of what Peter was doing to Eddie around the end of the movie he used venom weakness to remove the suit from Eddie
@jimmy68392 жыл бұрын
@@thekingofball2341 true point but eddie did not take it off by himself peter helped him
@zekelanders67862 жыл бұрын
This is the spiderman that stopped a whole train lol
@huntercool22323 жыл бұрын
Eddie: “I want you to kill Peter Parker.” Jesus: “Yeahhh… You’ve never read the Bible have you?”
@Ermitério3 жыл бұрын
@Andrea De Luca Jesus: Yeah, yeah lives that my father gave and created and took for a purpose far greater than your human mind could understand ;)
@Ermitério3 жыл бұрын
@Andrea De Luca God's human creation wanting him to appear before his child and explain his intentions as if he somehow owed you something
@Ermitério3 жыл бұрын
@Andrea De Luca Did he create you, the ground you walk on, the sky that covers you, the food that feeds you and the people you love and then has to appear before you and explain his plans to you as if he owed you something? you would even understand
@Ermitério3 жыл бұрын
@Andrea De Luca ;)
@mrbond89753 жыл бұрын
@Andrea De Luca your thinking is terribly stupid, I will not sit and discuss anything with an uneducated atheist but you can read any holy book and you will get your answer. ICXC NIKA
@timonayibaduba9653 жыл бұрын
0:28 arguably the most iconic superhero pose...
@thedarkestknight83813 жыл бұрын
This frame alone speaks so many volumes you can tell the disgust and disappointment in himself
@mastersnake8083 жыл бұрын
It definitely holds fallen superhero protects the good vibe like the one batman always has around him
@kanyerahming3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@Gadget-Walkmen3 жыл бұрын
No the most iconic but one of the best and coolest looking poses Spider-Man has done.
@d__00533 жыл бұрын
Yh it actually is. Just him sat there looking at himself feeling disgusted and the music and the rain it all made it into a amazing scene
@steventurous9000 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the attention to detail in the sound design. When the Symbiote has nearly consumed Eddie and the last few tendrils are attaching. The tendrils look and sound like sharp hands hooking themselves into his skin. Sounds very painful. Eddie's anguish is intensified by his transformation
@nateflores8160 Жыл бұрын
Literally, like you can hear everything attaching with such anger from being rejected by Peter so it’s attaching so aggressively. It’s perfect
@grantrobison6132 Жыл бұрын
What song is in this one?
@MiteoR-o7s4 ай бұрын
I want to be on Eddie's place
@asphaltking34525 жыл бұрын
Peter Parker: "Want Forgiveness? Get Religion" Eddie: *Goes to Church
@King-bp6gu5 жыл бұрын
😂😂and then has the nerve to ask God to kill someone
@zuccsucc84525 жыл бұрын
AsphaltKing thumbnail reminds me of when you get slime on yourself and it just keep sticking on you
@tribesman84245 жыл бұрын
*Starts talking to statue* XD
@tuanz80095 жыл бұрын
King 805 god gave him Venom to kill peter that’s what he asked for
@Sarah_Kinz5 жыл бұрын
You’ll get religion when you FIX THIS DAMN DOOR!
@akramdinulakbar99243 жыл бұрын
2007: "This is garbage" 2021: "This is cinema. Absolute masterpiece!"
@karjathebard24013 жыл бұрын
Nobody said it was garbage
@akramdinulakbar99243 жыл бұрын
@@karjathebard2401 Nobody but the critiques.
@karjathebard24013 жыл бұрын
@@akramdinulakbar9924 basically nobody
@JordanDavila3 жыл бұрын
Some superficial fans do find this garbage at the time. I like it and still do
@willson73603 жыл бұрын
It is the weakest out of the trilogy, the problem however with this movie is the casting (especially venom)
@TylerG133 жыл бұрын
This is the most overhated movie of all time, and you cannot convince me otherwise. This scene sends chills down my spine. I can’t believe people have the nerve to say Tobey wasn’t a good actor. He is moving and screaming like he’s fighting for his life. 1:35 to the end is bafflingly good. This should have been the ending to Spider-Man 3, and S4 could have been 2 and a half hours of straight up Tobey vs Venom.
@huangdynasty85363 жыл бұрын
I feel like if this movie came out right now it would be praised. I mean it's better than most mcu movies right now
@TylerG133 жыл бұрын
@@huangdynasty8536 There’s problems with it, like for instance I can’t stand Mary Jane’s character. And Peter kissing Gwen upside down was really out of nowhere and unnecessary. And they definitely didn’t give enough development time to Venom before him and Peter fought. But dude, there are so many moments in this movie that completely overshadow the bad parts. Black Suit vs Sandman, Black Suit vs Harry, this scene, Peter and Harry vs Sandman and Venom, the scene where Peter tells May he’s going to propose to MJ, etc. I don’t wanna type too much but yeah, this movie holds a special place in my heart lol
@Apexssb3 жыл бұрын
@@TylerG13 also, the first look at the black suit which is amazing
@dirtyfighters77513 жыл бұрын
@@TylerG13 TBH, I’d argue that MJ was brilliant and Peter kissing Gwen made sense. Peter was so full of himself in the first act of the movie (hell he regains himself at the end of the 2nd act). He couldn’t even help MJ when she needed his comfort, lied to Harry, kissed Gwen (as you know), and was willing to kill Flint Marko (the symbiote is what basically kicked him off into gear). Then by the end of the movie after he realises how much of an arrogant runt he’s been, he tries owning up for his mistakes and finally becomes the Peter we all know. The whole reason Peter was evil with the symbiote was because it brought out the anger, vengeance, and darkness form within his heart that was slowly built up through the first half of the film and only reached its lowest point when Peter discovered Sandman killed his uncle instead of Dennis. But yeah, we can both agree that Venom could’ve used some more time in the oven.
@VishnooChandra3 жыл бұрын
Honestly,story wise...Spider-Man 3 is the best of them all...it didn't deserve the hate it got.
@hexagonshorts2186 Жыл бұрын
I will defend this movie till my death. Growing up we never had much money and thus gaming was not a hobby for me. We do had a dvd player and these movies were the ones I watched about a hundred times. Seeing them brings back so many memories.
@CloudyWolf713 Жыл бұрын
Hey. I hope you’re doing ok out there.
@traintrack37612 жыл бұрын
The way Eddie looks up and does that evil smile as Venom consumes him is so freaking scary, gives me goosebumps every time and I love it.
@nathancruz91722 жыл бұрын
3:16 Me too.
@Lucasfan3752 жыл бұрын
It's like at first he was scared, then he starts to like it
@ProtagonisTeneT Жыл бұрын
It doesn't even make sense
@vanessamendoza7687 Жыл бұрын
Do you scares you
@SigilOfBaphomet Жыл бұрын
@@ProtagonisTeneTit does, the movie directly states that the symbiote feeds off its host’s negative emotions and makes them feel more confident and powerful, Eddie was scared at first because a weird alien latex was falling on him and taking over his body, but he was at his lowest point in life so all the negativity in him made the symbiote stronger and they started to bond immediately based on their shared hate of the same person (Peter/spidey). That’s why he smiles, it feels good and he’s accepting it.
@Nicholas_Chen_5 жыл бұрын
He prayed to god for an evil deed, and instead the devil reached out to him. This scene is brilliant.
@TheShape--xt6pk5 жыл бұрын
This movie's way to underated people don't get the bigger picture
@user-cs9hz4vb2i5 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Chen that’s deep
@chadfacts5 жыл бұрын
Damn!
@Stanfordscienceman5 жыл бұрын
No God said do it yourself and gave him venom
@projectblade825 жыл бұрын
Kali Warner Very True. because god never kills people. And that's Eddie Didn't even know.
@prathla23143 жыл бұрын
If Peter had more time with suit , we would had more Bully Maguire memes
@baldwiniv28583 жыл бұрын
Damn 😭
@oreocookie31653 жыл бұрын
If only he didn't care about himself being a jerk...
@fantasyhyper80503 жыл бұрын
Meme suit
@senbilirsinabii713 жыл бұрын
shut the fck up
@SavageJarJar3 жыл бұрын
@@DekaNovelist Aw, look at little Tom fan girl. Gonna cry?
@Theterminato2013 Жыл бұрын
Even tho Harry does a good job being Venom, Eddie Brock is the one and TRUE Venom. He makes Venom act more vicious and scarier.
@Wanin_Mind Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree but I feel that Eddie Brock can still be venom in that universe because not all the simbiotes were extinguished
@rezaqalam482 Жыл бұрын
I hope eddie will appears on venom dlc to fight carnage😂
@kaponosucks Жыл бұрын
Harry as Venom was pretty scary and vicious
@slylancey2 жыл бұрын
I was listening to an audio book on the novelization of this movie. And in this particular scene, I read that everytime Peter was losing the will to rip the suit off his body, he replayed the image of him hitting Mary Jane in his head to force himself to keep going until the suit was off him completely. Spider-Man's willpower has got to be the strongest in fiction period.
@loneplayer8986 Жыл бұрын
Cool
@LittleHomieLightningtech Жыл бұрын
him and batman
@1987SilentKnight Жыл бұрын
Imagine Spider-Man with a green lantern corps ring (I know they’re different comic universes)
@Marvelfanatic3658 Жыл бұрын
I highly doubt in fiction period man. There's thousands of characters out there.
@thundersaAscam Жыл бұрын
@@Marvelfanatic3658 ya maybe not but Peter’s *definitely* up there
@kryniuxofficial5873 жыл бұрын
Peter taking off the symbiote reminds me of Tyler1's "GET THIS SHIT OF ME AAAAAAH"
@rizqi51453 жыл бұрын
This is it ! The comment i've been waiting for ! 😂
@dominus96643 жыл бұрын
Yeah because theres a funny video about it already
@d__00533 жыл бұрын
Yesss someone else that thinks the same to T1 and bully McGuire defo need to work out some day though😂
@mdayubsk92663 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHaZaJl5ard2qKs 👍👍❤️❤️
@Deimuragus_of_the_heaven3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@raterus3 жыл бұрын
Eddie really took the "If you want forgiveness, get religion" from Peter to heart.
@CorectAnimation2 жыл бұрын
Get, not Fine
@Sleepai2 жыл бұрын
@@CorectAnimation Find not fine
@jamesestrella59112 жыл бұрын
But the problem is, he stopped seeking forgiveness on both ends.
@CorectAnimation2 жыл бұрын
@@Sleepai Sorry, Find:))))
@Popcornnugget2 жыл бұрын
@@Sleepai It’s not find its get
@roxanne48202 ай бұрын
1:36 what trying to get out of a toxic relationship feels like
@elijahulrich20233 жыл бұрын
Peter removing the symbiote from himself is one of the most intense scenes in the whole movie. I love it!
@Howlingburd193 жыл бұрын
And it’s just like how it looked in the original source material with the bell tower and everything! Phenomenal scene :D
@elijahulrich20233 жыл бұрын
@@Howlingburd19 I know, right? 😊
@cryguy38153 жыл бұрын
Now how Peter get his apartment now if he was naked 🗿
@dungusglumbus99463 жыл бұрын
Wow they did a great job with the Venom cgi. I like how when Peter rips it off, it looks like it’s desperately trying to cling together to stay bonded with Peter. But whenever it touches Eddie, it immediately leaves Peter. Because Venom feeds off of negative emotions, and Eddie has more negativity than Peter
@dungusglumbus99463 жыл бұрын
Also I’m well aware that Venom actually feeds on adrenaline in the comics. But in this movie, it’s implied that negative emotions like hate and rage make Venom more powerful. Also I don’t think it’s explained in the Venom movie with Tom Hardy. In that movie, Venom just stays bonded with Eddie because he likes him I guess.
@BengalsxXx163 жыл бұрын
not to mention what Peter is doing is DAMN near impossible for the average human being to rip off venom just like that but because he has super strength that’s why he was able to do it but even still so he struggled!
@KoolKeithProductions3 жыл бұрын
@@BengalsxXx16l really enjoy SM3, but here's why this scene makes no sense. I get that this was taken from the animated show (and maybe the comics too, l havent read it) where Peter rips off Venom with the help of the church bell, but why does he have to rip it off AT ALL? In the show Venom was bonded with him, so he never took it off until the church bell scene, but in the movie Peter is shown taking it off MULTIPLE times, so why the hell did he need to rip it off here? Just go home, take it off like you always do and be rid of it.
@truecreation88033 жыл бұрын
@@KoolKeithProductions cause the symbiote knows Peter wants to get rid of it so it does not let go of him. Look when he first tries to remove it he goes for the part where the mask connects to the body and he tries to pull it off like a mask. The symbiote has a mind of its own it knows what Peter is doing since it it’s bonded to him.
@BrainDeadNed3 жыл бұрын
@@BengalsxXx16 Peter literally struggled to rip the suit off and this is the same guy who stopped a train by himself. A normal human can never take it off
@xenonboy263 жыл бұрын
Is it me or did everyone just realise that when Peter said to Eddie “You want forgiveness, get religion!” He actually went to church!
@acefrosty44113 жыл бұрын
Just know I did
@faded95813 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think everyone did
@Faoijhfr4rsgioi3 жыл бұрын
Why people hate this movie
@kodekYT3 жыл бұрын
@@Faoijhfr4rsgioi cause of religion?
@frankieeloi4253 жыл бұрын
Except, Eddie wasn't asking for forgiveness. He wanted death to a nemesis.
@puffpuffpassmako4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: In an interview, this is actually how the movie was going to end. In the original 3 script when Sony first asked for venom, Raimi was gonna do just the Black Suit storyline and Sandman as the only villain. When peter gets his suit off and Eddie changed into Venom, he wasn't going to be shown. The transformation would cut away in the final moments and the audience wouldn't see what he truly looked like, and Venom would escape and not be seen at all for the rest of the movie. And in 4 he was going to be brought back as the main villain. But Sony said "No, we want venom now".
@juanp74054 жыл бұрын
Magnus Malo damn I got pissed while reading this XD, fuck Sony
@hos35224 жыл бұрын
Coos
@xyashi75074 жыл бұрын
Its their fault for being so desperate
@Dirandra15064 жыл бұрын
Sony is a b****
@patrickcaville82504 жыл бұрын
@@Dirandra1506 that's why Sony failed
@2ndpartycrasher9544 жыл бұрын
Eddie: I'm sitting here humbled and humiliated.. God: Gonna cry?
@Ronbonon4 жыл бұрын
HAHA
@si-bang-sat4 жыл бұрын
Jesus: I missed the part where that's my problem
@siddharth_07714 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@joefranco60474 жыл бұрын
God: ima put some dirt in your eye
@randomanimations84884 жыл бұрын
@@joefranco6047 instead he got some parasitic alien in his mouth
@hugocecconi40153 жыл бұрын
Imagine the movie ended like this prior to Spider-Man 4, giving Venom a whole new movie to be the main villain.
@trucings90133 жыл бұрын
might cry thinking about that
@Princeofthekoopas183 жыл бұрын
I Don't think it would since Sam rami knew Nothing about Venom so I doubt he was ever put him in and Vulture was next one
@strayorion20313 жыл бұрын
Yeah the movie had really good plot points but they were rushed, if they were divided into 2 movies they would had been a masterpiece
@hanashbinasif25863 жыл бұрын
I think he would become the villain in spiderman 5
@1cioda3 жыл бұрын
I think that was initially the plan. Sandman got the main role, with the black suit being a major plot point. Then at the end, after peter realized whats happening, this scene comes up, then next movie. Which makes a lot of sense considering how we first see venom. That lunge into the screen is a classic "To be continued" moment
@Justinoo_Motivational Жыл бұрын
This venom was more of a menace than mcus carnage
@fezzy5591 Жыл бұрын
*Sonyverse Carnage
@thedlsking1628 Жыл бұрын
MCU Carnage was disapointed .despite woody harelson did great job as cletus kasady
@metasitzaza Жыл бұрын
@@thedlsking1628Sony made the Whole Spider man Franchise Of course Venom Too Not Marvel studios
@LazyGuyCoyote3 жыл бұрын
Y’know. As much hate as Topher Grace gets for Eddie Brock, I think he did pretty great with what he was given at the time. Considering that this isn’t a role he’d normally portray.
@thekeeperofpromise3 жыл бұрын
Eric Forman
@isaiahholland18163 жыл бұрын
@@thekeeperofpromise 🤣
@jackierosas95933 жыл бұрын
Topher Grace was actually great casting when it comes to the themes and overarching characterization in the film. Brock/Venom is a foil/mirror to Peter/Spider-Man. Both are competing photographers, both have a “thing” for Gwen Stacy, and where Peter succeeds Brock fails. Where Peter is normally kind, humble, and awkward (outside of the Symbiote drama) Brock is arrogant, flamboyant, and a schmoozer, not to mention he plays dirty as seen when he fakes the Spidey pic. Granted, he isn’t as successful as he thinks he is and most of the shit he does comes off as well, awkward. But not endearing Peter awkward. Also, Peter with the Symbiote acts more like Brock with the flashiness and weird flirting. Now that’s why Topher Grace fits the bill. Brock’s ego is unearned. He’s a lesser man’s Parker. He also LOOKS like Tobey Maguire. The big blue eyes, slim built, and general awkwardness. Topher Grace could’ve just as easily played Peter Parker, given his other role in That 70s Show as Eric, the lovable, funny nerd who can’t seem to catch a break and who also happens to have the hots for the neighborhood redhead. Sound familiar? Spidey and Venom are mirrors. If the film wasn’t as over bloated and Venom/Brock had a separate film, I’m sure Topher Grace wouldn’t have gotten as much flack. He’s a good actor, the material could’ve been a bit better though, and I say this as someone who likes Spider-Man 3. Either way, it was really clever casting.
@Tony-fq5bn3 жыл бұрын
@@jackierosas9593 Also I think as the first poster showed, people probably could only see him as Eric Forman back then
@Rabanitooooo3 жыл бұрын
Why does people hate him? I mean, he’s not Tom Hardy but he definitely did a good job considering Raimi didn’t really gave him that much to work with
@lucaso15794 жыл бұрын
Eddie: “...I want you to kill Peter Parker” Jesus: “...well you see that’s not how this works”
@TheVladMan.4 жыл бұрын
Tobey Maguire had a black Spider-Man suit in Spider-Man 3. Henry Cavill will have a black Superman suit in The Snyder Cut of Justice League. 🤯
@syna66224 жыл бұрын
More like sony
@Wade_Fucking_Wilson4 жыл бұрын
Vladimir Manosalvas IG: TheVladMan and?
@thatoneguyPCB4 жыл бұрын
Yeah kill him in 1 millon years
@gatomeong4 жыл бұрын
@@TheVladMan. not hating but how does that have any connection with spiderman?
@adamgonzales86773 жыл бұрын
"you want forgiveness, get religion" Eddie: "so I took that personally"
@DroGodina2 жыл бұрын
UNDERRATED comment. $
@rebajoe Жыл бұрын
It might not have stuck, but something did.
@Raziel2696 Жыл бұрын
Pete took his own advice 👀🙏🏽
@saswatsudarshantripathy58465 ай бұрын
I love how all the comments are only 2-3 yrs old while this was uploaded around 7 years ago. This shows that many of us understood the depth of this scene after we grew up.
@foolforchrist3192 жыл бұрын
This scene doesn’t get talked about enough. It is so atmospheric, the creepy church enhances the ominous feeling you get from Peter’s slow corruption by the symbiote. The score heightens the tension, and the sound of the church bells adds a whole new layer of gothic atmosphere. Coupled with the incredibly realistic CGI on Venom (especially for 2007!) really just makes this one of the best scenes in Spider-Man history.
@byattwurns15532 жыл бұрын
For me, It's the near-religious portrayal of the symbiote as a kind of "Sin". I'm not Christian, but I assume the symbiote acts as a symbol for "evil deeds", and that granting oneself redemption requires incredible strain and perseverance. The tolling of the church bells give Peter a chance at redemption, literally and metaphorically.
@jinbe_of_the_sea4577 Жыл бұрын
@@byattwurns1553 as another person pointed out, its really poetic. Eddie went in there with such malevolent request and instantly got damned for it, while Peter did not ask for help or anything and still got one on the form of that bell, which purified him of his ''sins'', while on the same time Eddie got surrounded by his and embraced it
@that_guy_that Жыл бұрын
@@jinbe_of_the_sea4577 they both were at the same place, church. But they were there for different reasons, or... asked for different things. Peter wanted redemption, Brock wanted the opposite, he wanted revenge and asked God to do a terrible thing.
@tobeymaguire7518 Жыл бұрын
@@byattwurns1553Yes exactly, and Brock gets "punished" with venom right after he asks god to kill a human
@SigilOfBaphomet Жыл бұрын
@@byattwurns1553the symbiote in this movie is a symbol for a lot of things, namely addiction and the desire for revenge
@suryanshsingh54353 жыл бұрын
"You want forgiveness, get religion" Eddie: I DID.
@purrformance3 жыл бұрын
God: *You weren't supposed to do that*
@brandonrodriguez12553 жыл бұрын
“Missed the part where that’s my problem”
@izzmanelhammirza75573 жыл бұрын
And the devil responded
@alexpetrumurar12293 жыл бұрын
Eddie got religion ,but not for forgiveness ... For revenge
@syafiqadli71743 жыл бұрын
"You'll get your forgiveness when you fixed this goddamn door! "
@Wade9wilson3 жыл бұрын
This scene exactly symbolizes how desires like Lust, Ego, Pride, Attachment and Greed are easy to get But once you’re familiar with it, its hard to get rid off Sam Raimi is hell of a director!
@Redley953 жыл бұрын
Absolutly , even with a character he didn't want to put in the movie he still did a good job .
@coldwater95402 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of removing my attachments to my ex
@Wade9wilson2 жыл бұрын
@@coldwater9540 you’re not alone bro I’ve been through that 🥺
@canislupus36552 жыл бұрын
I see Venom in this movie as a metaphor for addiction, whether it be carnal vices, drug abuse, or simply getting hooked on power that isn’t earned and internally moderated.
@mrsquietmusic64132 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great analysis!
@KensingtonAddict Жыл бұрын
I like how at 2:04, that was in ATSV when there was stills of the Venom Symbiote
@mikepark25534 жыл бұрын
The 15,000 dislikes are from the New Yorkers who saw Peter swinging home naked later that night
@ironspider74654 жыл бұрын
The clothes were the symbiote
@ironspider74654 жыл бұрын
I'm say the truth the clothes were the symbiote
@ubern00bkye4 жыл бұрын
@@ironspider7465 aren't you supposed to be smart?
@ironspider74654 жыл бұрын
Nope
@martymcfly93384 жыл бұрын
Civilian : *yup big change*
@Howlingburd194 жыл бұрын
Nobody talks about how good the CGI is for the Symbiote “goo” Edit 2024: this scene is still phenomenal, and I love how loyal this “ripping off the symbiote” scene is to the original comic where he also discards the symbiote
@TheCentre1014 жыл бұрын
Howling Burd19 damn straight, it’s so good
@agunsyah53854 жыл бұрын
Uv cxgl
@someguy._.4 жыл бұрын
Great CGI
@trashbrock23204 жыл бұрын
The effects in this movie were phenomenal
@michaelscott34114 жыл бұрын
It’s incredibly satisfying.
@chriskelly47734 жыл бұрын
*So nobody's going to talk about how Peter had to go home naked after removing the suit?*
@jc._.goated66664 жыл бұрын
Maybe and I mean maybe he just web over himself like the private area
@nishorjatheesan66464 жыл бұрын
@@jc._.goated6666 Lmao🤣
@gale48214 жыл бұрын
@@jc._.goated6666 no tobey yeets it all the way home
@defunctgoosebumpsaccount4 жыл бұрын
He was wearing clothes before he took off the suit EDIT: stop replying to me that he was naked
@johnpark67304 жыл бұрын
*Stolen comment*
@DomDOTgaming3 жыл бұрын
So many people hated this movie but I absolutely loved it, one of my favorite childhood movies.
@jliong1283 жыл бұрын
If Venom looked Like the new one with the Spider-Man Symbol and didn’t die and was less evil and Eddie was John Cena it would be my favorite of the trilogy
@DomDOTgaming3 жыл бұрын
@@jliong128 yeah I understand that 100% but me being a kid none of that mattered to me i was just happy to see the black suit lol.
@mikayrose23 жыл бұрын
Same!
@jliong1283 жыл бұрын
@@DomDOTgaming I get that Venom was my only problem with the movie it would probably be my favorite out i oh f the trilogy
@natanalmeidaa3 жыл бұрын
@@jliong128 But have you ever thought, no Spider-Man movie with Venom?
@andreaschong32492 жыл бұрын
This whole movie is literally the entire definition of depression, breaking free from it, and realizing that there are good people in your life to support you
@joellennon67362 жыл бұрын
Thats prob the most underrated thing I've heard anyone say about SM3
@andreaschong32492 жыл бұрын
@@joellennon6736 I mean, I guess, but it's true
@joellennon67362 жыл бұрын
@@andreaschong3249 no i see Ur pov, especially with peters story arc here
@andreaschong32492 жыл бұрын
@@joellennon6736 Yeah
@alessiodelcastillo16132 жыл бұрын
@@andreaschong3249 it can also be viewed as breaking free from substance abuse or your pride
@reaganation6000 Жыл бұрын
For a director who don't want Venom initially, he sure blend the theme of forgiveness and hate well along with Sandman
@asniffer6532 Жыл бұрын
To this day I think Sandman was the best thing in the third movie. The actor really portrayed a very relatable Flint Marko to the point they literally copied it to the Spiderman 2 game. Even the speech mannerisms, slow, naive almost dumb like but good hearted spirit. They also did a theme song score for the Sandman that also gave me goosebumps, very beautiful.
@natek44888 ай бұрын
The symbiote in this movie really embodies anger, spite, vengeance, and violence. When Peter gets it, he wants to get revenge on Sandman for killing his uncle. But after the rest of the film happens and Peter realizes his mistake, he rejects the symbiote and makes himself better, and is even able to forgive Sandman for his mistake. Eddie, on the other hand, just points figures whenever he's at his lowest point. When Peter gets him fired, he wants revenge, and the symbiote lands on him, and he fully embraces that and never learns to forgive.
@alpharius2omegaboogaloo3845 ай бұрын
Never say Sam can’t work with what he’s given.
@alexgray7274 ай бұрын
I like to think this is originally where the movie was supposed to end and Spider-Man 4 was supposed to pick up immediately after this
@NSGhostbusters Жыл бұрын
The scream at 2:31 still gives me chills.
@ClaudioMCCallister4 ай бұрын
i love that scene. its perfect.
@Vexthewolf035 жыл бұрын
Eddie: I want you to kill Peter Parker God: wait that's illegal
@thecrossoverchannel5 жыл бұрын
Your Right
@Jaytube1095 жыл бұрын
Yea how's Eddie gonna ask God to kill someone when he created him
@InosukeChill5 жыл бұрын
It’s very messed up ok what is he standing on look at what’s on the floor
@lucysyd21594 жыл бұрын
Like he ever had a problem with killing
@sran4384 жыл бұрын
Austin Riggs Emperor Palpatine: “I will make it legal.”
@freebird2647 жыл бұрын
Eddie: I want you to kill Peter Parker Jesus: Bruh, do I look like Satan to you?
@xmenpage7 жыл бұрын
Free Bird Yea, bruh. That scene and Topher Grace was terrible.
@KingsManFHYT7 жыл бұрын
Lee Lee bruh why not?
@youngt7617 жыл бұрын
as
@身も凍るエレジー6 жыл бұрын
Free Bird at least the black suit made Eddies wish come true
@Theseamus20006 жыл бұрын
Free Bird I personally only found one passage where Satan actually killed someone and God was the one who allowed it
@louiec92944 жыл бұрын
I don't go to Church but I am pretty sure that wishing Death on someone isn't something you should do in a Church.
@@NeoArashi lol,no religion says to kill people...
@comment39523 жыл бұрын
@@lazarmarinkovic1932 some do but those are the crazy religions
@NeoArashi3 жыл бұрын
@@comment3952 and even then, the religions that promote killing usualy don't promote vengence, especially personal vengence, like this guy did. They usually allow killing during wartime, and only if the other party is the aggressors.
@FatimaPulido-xe9wd Жыл бұрын
This scene is too powerful I love it
@watermel0ns_3 жыл бұрын
Brock: "I want you to kill Peter Parker." God: "Ayo Satan you should check this guy out"
@praesidium42783 жыл бұрын
Funny because god allows Satan to attack sinners
@JacksonZ.3 жыл бұрын
@@praesidium4278 good
@kwakugyebi67053 жыл бұрын
@@JacksonZ. when you realise that according to biblical doctrine all humans are sinners: 😱😱😱😱
@JacksonZ.3 жыл бұрын
@@kwakugyebi6705 So every human is a sinner to their religion
@JacksonZ.3 жыл бұрын
@@kwakugyebi6705 didn't know i triggered the little online keyboard warrior who debates off religions and the Bible 😱😱😱😱
@kris43814 жыл бұрын
3:18 Eddie becomes Venom Venom: First we attack the cameraman!
@athulchandran27374 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ImEternal0034 жыл бұрын
Stolen
@flamepillarx4 жыл бұрын
Camera man: You underestimate me?! Attack me all you want! For I AM INVINCIBLE!!!!
@fly614light44 жыл бұрын
Usually camera mans always survive in movies
@ДимашБекбол-ю5и4 жыл бұрын
Hey, that kinda looks like Goblin's line
@phaethonprime64273 жыл бұрын
Eddie: "I want you to kill my career." God: "say no more."
@Rostar20063 жыл бұрын
Xd
@rodrimg19963 жыл бұрын
That’s just sad…
@theparrishshow98033 жыл бұрын
I thought he did good as Eddie Brock
@literallytired54693 жыл бұрын
Also God: *Because now your the one who’s gonna die*
@I-speak-U-shut-it3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@alekizzu4705 Жыл бұрын
New Spider Man movies got nothing on this one. This one is the best EVER
@nehh_aksat4 жыл бұрын
The whole trilogy was a masterpiece.
@Someone-eb6ih4 жыл бұрын
The hate behind this movie is ridiculous
@Jose-el7yw4 жыл бұрын
@Abolfazl Hoseini right you are mate
@Leahjones5984 жыл бұрын
Abolfazl Hoseini theres only one scene everybody cringed at
@ubern00bkye4 жыл бұрын
@@Leahjones598 ikr, I don't get it. This is my second favourite in the trilogy
@skellybones51194 жыл бұрын
3rd one not so much
@kobra_9xg9624 жыл бұрын
Fucking hell I love this scene. The buildup, the camerawork, the CGI, the music. I just love it so much
@joshuapere9974 жыл бұрын
Pls don't swear man kids r also hear watching this probably.
@HarryDatBerry4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuapere997 there's a thing called KZbin kids
@kobra_9xg9623 жыл бұрын
@@joshuapere997 sorry bro
@144chosen3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuapere997 fuck
@pragatri3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuapere997 fuck Bullshit
@byattwurns15532 жыл бұрын
Small detail I love: At 2:55 we see peter rid of the symbiote, accompanied by triumphant, tonal music, and then right afterwards we're back to the rhythmic, heavy music of the symbiote. Subtle!
@Felix-ic1fc2 жыл бұрын
There's also that religous hymn at 1:50 while hearing Peter screaming right after he prayed for Peter's death
@Luke101 Жыл бұрын
@@Felix-ic1fcChristopher Young went crazy with this score
@aidanfox82192 ай бұрын
2:56 The moment Peter realized he was free (for now)
@sparkshrestha927 Жыл бұрын
When i was kid, i used to think he removed the Venom because Eddie asked god to kill Peter Parker, but now i realized that he wanted to remove because he hurt MJ.
@RtsFps16 жыл бұрын
If they didn't push the director into having 3 villains in Spiderman 3 and saved Venom for a Spiderman 4...The Sam Raimi verse would be hollywood legend.
@bleepbloop1010101015 жыл бұрын
Then there's the new Spiderman trailer.... Did they not learn?
@jwaunlewis89255 жыл бұрын
X
@anthonyshepherd2655 жыл бұрын
Sam didn’t want Venom in his films at all. He said he’s not a fan of the character.
@TKGriffiths5 жыл бұрын
They just chose the villains for this film so poorly. The whole interaction between Peter, the symbiote and Harry was brilliant and more than enough to carry the film by itself. All they needed was a brief second villain for Peter and Harry to team up against at the end. Sandman isn't suitable because he's supposed to be a tragic character, not a monstrous supervillain. If they hadn't conclusively killed Norman Osborn off he could have 'returned from the dead ' like in the comics, which would be an even greater payoff if Harry were forced to fight him. Norman even accidentally killed Harry in Ultimate Spiderman so there's plenty of meat behind this concept. For the film continuity though, it makes more sense for it to be Connors/Lizard. He was experimenting with the symbiote throughout the film, what if by doing so he discovered the missing ingredient for his Lizard formula? They were quietly setting up Connors/Lizard since the first film, what better time to unleash the Lizard than this point in the narrative? A perfect threat for Peter and Harry to team up against. Venom was the most wasted of all though. Eddie shouldn't have bonded with the symbiote until the post-credits scene. That way Spiderman 4 can be all about Venom. Remember how Venom was introduced in the comics, when he covertly tried to kill Peter by pushing him in front of a subway train without revealing himself, since he doesn't trigger the spider-sense? Imagine how cool that would have been on screen. The start of the film could be building tension around this mystery. After that they can take it all kinds of ways. Remember Eddie faked those photos of black-suited spiderman doing evil deeds? Well now he HAS the black suit, he can IMPERSONATE Spiderman. How epic would that be? Peter would still have no idea who Venom is. Gah, so much wasted potential.
@fatherra25345 жыл бұрын
@@TKGriffiths they were planning on making mysterio the main villain for spiderman 4. Sam had no choice but to make sandman bad in order to make them team up at the end thanks to a stupid company called sony which deliberately pushed raimi to put venom in the film, and it was 5 days before the release of spiderman 4 that it was cancelled because raimi decided to give up and let sony take the reboot which was just awful with garfield.
@joeytheslimeboi89006 жыл бұрын
The effects for venom in this film still hold up really well
@funguy88016 жыл бұрын
The new Venom CGI is even less realistic than this 11-year-old version.
@barnacles13526 жыл бұрын
Fun Guy it’s looks like water
@rngamer89736 жыл бұрын
hooked nigga that’s the real ninja!!!!! Tap on his name
@funguy88016 жыл бұрын
RN Gamer ... don't bother wasting peoples time, it doesn't even have the verified "checkmark". You must think people are as dumb as yourself. Troll on.
@rngamer89736 жыл бұрын
Fun Guy click on the name and it has 18 mil subs u twit
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache4 жыл бұрын
"I want you to kill Peter Parker" God: Ask and you shall receive... *But there's a twist*
Eddie called out to God... *And the Devil responded.*
@fabianfollowerofchrist52994 жыл бұрын
No cuz the devil can’t hear your prayers.
@standardperson31894 жыл бұрын
More like god said do it yourself
@Reiss0444 жыл бұрын
Because he pray for to kill someone, exatly peter
@thecreatoritself4 жыл бұрын
He prayed to God to kill someone. And Eddie got the DEVIL himself.
@Josh.V4 жыл бұрын
@@fabianfollowerofchrist5299 Yes, he can hear every word you say out of your mouth, but he can't read your mind.
@kayozzy4 жыл бұрын
Peter tells Eddie to get religion. Eddie goes to church and instead of asking for forgiveness he straight up asks God to kill Peter. I never understood this scene as a kid... but now that I’m older I can see how dark this scene truly is.
@christophersanchez77314 жыл бұрын
youll get your rent when you fix this damn door! Yah in comics Eddie Brock was a devout Catholic which seems to hold true here in this movie too In comics though Brock was disgraced unwittingly by Spider-Man, for Eddie a reporter of the Daily Globe did an interview on a man who claimed to be a serial killer corrupt cop killer named Sin Eater His report earned him fame until Spider-Man captured the real Sin Eater, as the man which Eddie interviewed was a fraud seeking attention Eddie lost his job, his marriage, his way of life over it and blamed Spider-Man for it despite him not being directly causing Eddie‘s troubles He began hating Spider-Man and excerised in part of wanting to kill him, which made him a muscle bound Adonis But as a Catholic he knew it was wrong and sought suicide but again his faith stopped him So he went from one church to another seeking forgiveness for the sin of wanting suicide and that’s where the Venom Symbiote meet him All this is a tie to the movie as Eddie here made his own trouble by using fake means to get fame, and obsessing over Gwen Stacy And while Peter was a cause to bring him down, Eddie wanted him to die and used his faith as a means to pray and make it happen It all seems a dark parallel to the comic version of how Eddie in both versions have warped minds and men of faith
@SPIDER-Man6694 жыл бұрын
“Daily bugle”
@jacobpearson85384 жыл бұрын
Inappropriate
@jacobpearson85384 жыл бұрын
appropriate
@RENEIND4 жыл бұрын
RENT?
@Brad025263 жыл бұрын
Ok so hear me out. I have had depression for about 10 years (2016-18 i still had depression) and it took me a year to realize it was actually very bad Depression when it came to 2020. I haven’t seen Spiderman 3 for a couple of years and that was my favorite Superhero Movie of all Time when I was a kid. And this scene at the Church, the Black Suit to me symbolized Depression, i was trapped inside it. I had Guilt. I thought I was responsible for my Father’s death, even though it wasn’t my fault that he had died in Afghanistan. But this scene cured me because it felt like I took off the suit after so many years of wearing it. I just want to thank this Scene, and most importantly I thank God. 🙏😁 Peter taking off the symbiote struggling, is like us struggling with our addictions such as Drugs and Lust. Like another commenter said, “This symbolism is powerful.” I couldn’t agree more.
@chelsey10873 жыл бұрын
That’s deep. I’m proud of you, stay strong ❤️ I suffer from depression too, but I’ll also be okay 💪
@emilyb47683 жыл бұрын
that was beautiful. i'm so happy you're better now. stay safe and healthy ❤
@armandguillen61493 жыл бұрын
Keep it up mah man
@Ninja-ixy3 жыл бұрын
Stay strong
@jjcerda69903 жыл бұрын
Proud of u don’t forget to pray during the bad times and during the good times 🖤
@03buga Жыл бұрын
I will never understand how people hate this movie, this is cinematic master piece
@SlasherIncorporated Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't go as far as to say it's a "cinematic masterpiece". This movie does have issues. However, it's not NEARLY as bad as people make it out to be and I too will never understand why it's so hated.
@n.paramasivamaditya16044 жыл бұрын
I still have no idea how they manged to make the suit tearing scene, it's just magnificent!!
@mckinnellfamilytrio57524 жыл бұрын
They had a practical suit that they had Tobey tear, aswell as some wires to pull on tobey’s face, then they used cgi to add the “symbiote” trying to hold the suit together
@n.paramasivamaditya16044 жыл бұрын
@@mckinnellfamilytrio5752 WOW, Raimi sure did a hell of a troligy!!
@mckinnellfamilytrio57524 жыл бұрын
《TheLastRider》 yeah!
@prov1derrrr4 жыл бұрын
@@kathyturtle1961 You mean the Spiderman triology? Bro that was my childhood ofc i loved it xD
@dedmemes63134 жыл бұрын
I loykey thought this was Dream lol
@xlostagentz94735 жыл бұрын
12 years and still one of my favorite Spider-Man films.....
@champnino94745 жыл бұрын
Mine too
@viny96665 жыл бұрын
This IS my favorite movie
@BigBrony255 жыл бұрын
Agent 2514 mine to
@CroackyMan5 жыл бұрын
But then we wouldn't have the legendary emo parker
@coultergill77285 жыл бұрын
Agent 2514 I used to like his portrayal until this film
@captprice00797 ай бұрын
It needed divine intervention to kill Bully Maguire 😂
@synergy48676 жыл бұрын
The CGI holds up really really well
@gravservin91106 жыл бұрын
Ayrton Sy thats what i was thinking
@gamebell38066 жыл бұрын
Better than marvel
@MattII336 жыл бұрын
Ar Wan No. lmao
@icarlitos_6 жыл бұрын
True!
@TheFandere46 жыл бұрын
Matt Darga Much better than TASM 2 ;)
@anezinis4 жыл бұрын
In my childhood that was for me the scariest scene ever
@anthonyrios23114 жыл бұрын
Same, along with Venom in general.
@gorachand12354 жыл бұрын
Same here I was in class 3 at that time
@ann3frannk9784 жыл бұрын
I watched this when I was 12 at the movie theater and half the crowd laughed when Peter cried during James Franco's death
@rh14794 жыл бұрын
Same here cuz like the symbiotic “goo” went in Eddie’s mouth dude like EW DISGUISTING
@leeobrien20044 жыл бұрын
In my childhood I thought it was awesome!
@benmorgan88904 жыл бұрын
This movie wasn’t bad until the internet said it was.
@minihalkoja5904 жыл бұрын
@James Davis This people are shitting on Sam Raimi for this movie’s ”failure”, but it was Sony that tried to give fans what they wanted, even though Raimi didn’t want to feature Venom because he didn’t know what to do with him, or how he fully worked as a character. That’s why the Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus and Sandman were so well portrayed. The director knew what to do with them.
@musyrifo4 жыл бұрын
You mean the *critics*
@360Dominator14 жыл бұрын
Different people have different opinions.
@perisicalves4084 жыл бұрын
James Davis a movie so bad it'll likely kill the franchise for nineteen years-
@synthiapyre56184 жыл бұрын
It's only mildly disappointing as a hardcore comic fan. But still a great movie.
@Nikarus213 Жыл бұрын
Who here after Insomniac Spider-Man 2?
@DeterminedTorres Жыл бұрын
[SPOILERS] The fact that Spidey was able to rip the symbiote out like in 2:30 was a pretty nice nod.
@LeNottiBianche7094 жыл бұрын
*Eddie:* "I want you to kill Peter Parker" *God:* "I missed the part where that's my problem"
@sunlightorchestra87864 жыл бұрын
Because Bully Maguire is God
@661_guer054 жыл бұрын
@@sunlightorchestra8786 for real 😂
@Xominus4 жыл бұрын
@@sunlightorchestra8786 Nope.
@Meraj_Vlogs1393 жыл бұрын
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@Stupifyification5 жыл бұрын
The thing that's funny after watching this scene again is Peter probably having to web-swing back to his apartment naked.
@Uniquestanced5 жыл бұрын
Stupifyification i dont think he would do that, my theory is that he may either had boxers on or his cloths from that jazz club
@Jeff-cg2ku5 жыл бұрын
Probably made himself some clothes out of webs lol
@vesha62744 жыл бұрын
He had underwear on him probably
@ejdetailing71894 жыл бұрын
He didnt have anything thats why they cover him but yeh he coulf have sprayed some webs or taken some of the munks clothe
@Hoggaththegreat4 жыл бұрын
Or use Eddie jacket since he throw it before transforming into venom
@deandrethomas18815 жыл бұрын
Kids in the future generation will never know how much this Spiderman means to us R.I.P Stan Lee
@jakeystarsuper5 жыл бұрын
Stfu
@trashbrock23205 жыл бұрын
@@jakeystarsuper um go to hell?
@sonicmania67535 жыл бұрын
Kids can enjoy either Spider-Man. I do grew up with Rami trilogy but I do respect other actors for Spidey.
@JordanWheeler19995 жыл бұрын
@@sonicmania6753 well you dont always have to defend something even tho there not apart of the clip that we are watching. And either way sure but you do know that tom himself stated that he wants and I croute "I want to see a gay spidey in the near future". How can you respect him after that saying?
@sonicmania67535 жыл бұрын
Jordan Wheeler I’m pretty sure he’s joking. Personally I don’t really care, I mean Spider-Man has many different incarnations of himself.
@charbeleid193Ай бұрын
This is some of the most beautiful cgi I've ever seen. The transformation is just incredible
@HygorBH5 жыл бұрын
Eddie: I want you to kill Peter Parker Jesus: Pfft, do it yourself *Gives him Venom*
@maryatim08095 жыл бұрын
that's how god works
@MegaManXPoweredUp5 жыл бұрын
Jesus was feeling lazy that day.
@joscar0625 жыл бұрын
@@MegaManXPoweredUp Jesus was not feeling so good at the moment
@mrwhom91455 жыл бұрын
Thanos : *Fine I'll do it myself...* Eddie : Who the f you are ? Thanos : *oops, wrong universe*
@JeffreyBarkdull5 жыл бұрын
Let me correct you there, Eddie Brock should’ve asked Satan to kill Peter Parker because God or Jesus will never grant that wish
@bruhskimask62664 жыл бұрын
The soundtrack so beautiful when he’s sitting on the tower
@MomoKanjaki4 жыл бұрын
Ikr.
@espresso55124 жыл бұрын
so is the cinematography
@jaganprasad114 жыл бұрын
Yep❤️
@sahilrawat56214 жыл бұрын
The soundtrack in this whole series was just so awesome
@familytime80034 жыл бұрын
Aaronbutler0782@gmail.com
@arthurmorgan36434 жыл бұрын
I don't care what people and critics say, I love this movie
@RandomPerson-jz8ge4 жыл бұрын
Same
@michaelscott34114 жыл бұрын
Only true fans of the Trilogy do. And you’re clearly one of them. Edit: I mean that in a good way. I think this movie is painfully underrated.
@arthurmorgan36434 жыл бұрын
@@michaelscott3411 thank you !
@bunivr39754 жыл бұрын
Same
@rayanbensellamqlf11614 жыл бұрын
How's Sadie btw
@northwestkidmarc15 күн бұрын
I like how eddie slowly becomes venom as the symbiote leaves peter this scene was awesome when i first saw it this movie is timeless 😊