Getting Started in Amateur Astronomy - for COMPLETE BEGINNERS. Telescopes? Books? Binos? Part 1

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[@ch4eunwoo]

Hello. I’m 14 years old and for years I’ve been in love with astronomy but never knew how to start this video and some of your other videos have helped me a lot and I genuinely appreciate it. Thank you!

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[@henx9140]

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[@memerhd8888]

are you me but a year older?

[@Gmacrone]

That was hands down the best explanation of how binoculars and telescopes function, really eye opening.

[@richscales9376]

he really does a fabulous job..... thats the teacher in him :)

[@nucle4rpenguins534]

Eye opening….Ba dum dis (unintentional optics pun)

[@pet_maquette_]

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[@natethegreatest1000]

@@nucle4rpenguins534 eye see what you did there 😏

[@ajhosu.7524]

get out of here :D xD

[@manoffaith2501]

I am 76 years old and am now getting interested in Astronomy. I found your KZbin channel and have viewed many of your videos. I find your channel very informative and now subscribe. Thank you for your videos.

[@cday131]

It's always fun to listen to someone talk about something they're knowledgeable and passionate about. You don't even have to be interested in it yourself.

[@richardmorgan1588]

I learned more about binoculars in this 14 minutes than I knew all my life! (I'm nearly 67) I was delighted to find out that the ones I've had for years are actually pretty decent for sky views!

[@georgemorley1029]

It’s good news isn’t it?

[@jorymil]

Really nice to see a video about astronomy that doesn't cover telescopes. You don't need a lot of money to get into science, and while people like to watch review videos, they're not learning about science that way.

[@GorgieClarissa]

I am going to second this. I don't know what I'm doing... but he also makes a really going point that it's better to buy binoculars than a cheap telescope. I would have never known that and the books.... I'm going to the library tomorrow just to browse the astronomy section!

[@brandonwilson1586]

Saw the moons of Jupiter last night for the first time using 15x70 binoculars. Blew my mind.

[@michael-mvtd]

These are very useful intros for anyone early on in astronomy. Often the most overlooked tutorial that beginners need is a really good discussion of eyepieces, especially advice on what to avoid, where it's worthwhile to spend extra and why you need various pieces.

[@spacemanschannel6380]

I never considered binoculars as an astronomical tool. I tried last night with a pair of old binos from grandpa, and WOW was I wrong! Thank you for this great advice!

[@TrailBlazer5280]

Some years back I mounted a pair of small travel binoculars to a tripod, I was able to see Jupiter and a few of its moons. It wasnt the best image but you could still tell some of the moons were fully lit and some were not. You could tell it was in motion even though it appeared still to me. It was honestly incredible. Something about it to see that on my own of my own will, its like it proved to me that things can be proven. Like ok yeah it really is out there doing its thing and we only have to look to see it

[@videogames-lm7eq]

This is the reason why I subscribed to Ed Ting. He explains really well about telescopes and other things. This video deserves one million views!

[@alexsellars5335]

Excellent video Ed, looking forward to part 2!

[@mtlfpv]

fantastic video Ed, can't wait to see more of this series. I'm just getting started in astronomy myself and was considering buying a telescope, but i already have a good set of binoculars in the house so i think i will spend a few months with them first.

[@BuildingCenter]

This answers a couple questions I asked on a newer video. Thanks for your work.

[@paddycampbell576]

Thanks for the info. Really appreciate it.

[@MartyInLa]

The binocular tips alone made the video way worth watching, thanks Ed! Gonna test my binoculars right now!

[@iamaghost7971]

Such a good guide. I will follow along. Thanks Ed

[@bornasaeednia]

You’re very well spoken and this is quality content. I hope you get more and more views

[@mr.smartguy2940]

Thank you soooo much, the perfect video for beginners:)

[@thepuzzlax627]

One of my neighbors just gave me his old 70mm aperture, 700mm focal length, equatorial mounted refractor telescope, and this video has helped me get into the hobby quite a bit, thanks!

[@bobszoldra3515]

Excellent! This is the third video of your that I watched. I haven't decided on a telescope yet, but you have completely changed my original thinking and have probably stopped me from making some huge mistakes! Thank you!

[@o2g1337]

Thats an amazing video. It was the perfect introduction for me as a beginner.

[@karlb8481]

Watched so many videos as a photographer, trying to get into astronomy after all these years. Where have you been? These are some of the most helpful astronomy videos on youtube. If it wasn't for you , Niko, and Astrobiscuit, I'm not sure I would have had the courage/knowledge to jump in, though it was you that explained it most clearly. I wish i was still living in New England. THANKS!

[@o.l.6964]

Wow i loved this video, so inspiring! Hope your channel grows as it deserves! Could you do more material on binocular astronomy? I have just gotten into this hobby and it seems theres really not much on youtube on this subject! And its obvious you know so much!

[@juandavidbarrada]

I’m absolutely in love with your channel! Glad to find this kind of quality content here in KZbin! Sadly I can only give you one like per each video, I’d give you several for each one!

[@edting]

Ha, thank you for your kindness!

[@ldsklLtgmer]

I agree this is quality content, even if i already knew this myself i will introduce this video to my friends and few relatives who do not yet know this.

[@sombotaking2282]

I’ve ordered my first telescope but it’s going to be at least a month until it comes. I might get binoculars to hold out until then, thank you

[@lilacKurage]

Amazing video! Thank you so, so much!!

[@drumman33]

This is such great information. Thank you!

[@TheNobbynoonar]

Hi Ed Thank you for taking the time and effort to make these videos and for passing on valuable knowledge about this wonderful hobby. Just one small point, when I was starting out in astronomy, some of the best advice I was given was to join a local club/society. If you think it appropriate, could you please mention this in one of your beginner videos. Thank you.

[@ParallelPages]

This guy is such a good teacher! Thank you for making this video, it's so helpful and contains so much invaluable information

[@Soladaddy]

Just found your channel 2 days ago and am watching way too much. Really like the way you deliver information.

[@prajaktarahangdale2971]

This was very helpful. Thank you for such good guidance. Subscribed! 😀

[@jameschapman4824]

I've only just come across your channel and I have to say I found it very interesting and will now look forward to the next part. Many thanks.

[@edting]

Thanks for the nice comments. Glad to have you aboard!

[@AschGalaxy]

Thank you so, so much for this video! I have always loved space, and the concept of space itself. This video helped me so, so much!! ❤❤

[@Swtorswtor]

This is fantastic, thank you!

[@musesoftheinternet]

i really learnt a lot from this. thank you

[@iLoveLessons]

great video - enjoyed it a lot

[@aayush1363]

What an amazing explanation. Learnt more about binoculars here than the optics course of entire school curriculum. I wish more teachers could explain the practical aspects like you rather than drawing ray diagrams on auto-pilot. ♥️

[@soulmaster846]

This is really helpful! I'm gonna try out your recommended binoculars for now, but will definitely get my own telescope :)

[@andromeda121]

This is amazing, I saw hundreds of video on binocular and nobody gave these amazing tips. Thanks Ed

[@edting]

Thanks for your nice comments!

[@derp812]

Perfect video, thanks!

[@bignaughtydog]

Thank you. I learned much here.

[@erichowry7197]

Loved the video. I received a telescope for Christmas and anxious to use it!!

[@rogerthomas169]

The good thing aboit the department store telescope I received for Christmas is, it got me hooked. Thanks to your videos my new telescope is on it's way. I agree the small telescope isn't a whole lot better than my 10×50 binoculars but is steady on the tripod. Thanks for your videos...the best

[@stevenryles2773]

This guy is great I did buy a scope from a dept store when I first started out 30+ years ago. Anybody who wants to take up astronomy should watch his posts. Bravo Sir.

[@edting]

Thanks for the nice comments!

[@MiguelAriasS]

Thanks! Outstanding channel. Already subscribed. I wish I could have known these things before I got my first telescope, already some years ago.

[@annakuttyjohn7250]

You are a good teacher 👍

[@kunkunaku]

Thanks Ed. Really informative.

[@Filsterman1]

Thank you very much for these videos. You are like, the Bill Nye of astrology. Totally de-mistified it for me. Amazon and Orion should send you a thank you note!!!

[@gayathiris134]

Awesome sir👏... I'm so much interested in astronomy... Your way of talk and explanations made me so excited and enjoyed with those telecope and binoculars!

[@gsr4535]

Thanks for a nice video introduction. I've always been fascinated by the night of sky. I know a little about a few constellations but would like to learn more. Thanks!

[@bendaniels8572]

Thank you Ed! I really enjoyed this. I am currently saving for a nice reflector telescope. However, after watching your video, i and going to the store to try and find some binoculars! Because I never even thought of that!

[@ganderstein3426]

This video was both terse and comprehensive. It was well done. Thank you, Mr. Ting.

[@edting]

Thank you. This is an old video at this point and I'm thinking of updating it.

[@brettatton]

I've had a lot of enjoyment from my Celestron 8x56 SkyMaster DX binoculars over the years.

[@petersmith264]

Excellent presentation. Very informative.

[@krandom5242]

I just learned so much today thank u❤

[@rodneyjohnson4794]

i love this stuff!

[@sotanedo]

Excellent! Very well explained.

[@stevencbradley]

Ed, transform the greatmaterial! I read your scope reviews in the early who's. This is even better! Btw, did you know that this YT video has its captions in Portuguese? I thought you might want to know that. Thanks again!

[@calumcadwallader2127]

Thanks Ed, great video :)

[@joef6398]

Like other comments these videos are wonderful I have watched about 5 of them now , and they are very helpful for nobs like me . Yes I have a department store telescope and it's crap and I like to get something better and your videos are great for this , I have put holds at the library for some of the books you like and will start more learning , looking forward to it. Thanks so much , and keep up the great work .

[@Adhd_huh]

Hi. I'm a 13 year old who loves astronomy and would like to become an astronomer, this video really help and I'm looking forward to the next one

[@JH-lz4dh]

GREAT VIDEO!

[@mountfairweather]

Great explanation ☺️

[@yellowlynx]

The first objects I looked through my parent's binoculars when I was 10 were Pleiades and the Great Orion Nebula - and that got me hooked on to astronomy.

[@jeffreyvictor3678]

Excellent tips on bino's!!

[@joelcarrera6922]

Nice video Ed, greetings from Panamá 🇵🇦

[@richscales9376]

Thanks Ed for your videos. Theyre EXCELLENT. Ive been an amateur astronomer for some time and have a massive interest in.... everything about it. I have a celestron 925 edgehd. But haha before you say.... uh oh, you went for the big one with a 2000+ mm focal length... but wait :) I also have an orion ed 80 mounted to the 925 ota. I use both every night I watch the skies.... examine the moon jupiter saturn etc. And more recently Ive imaged some brighter dso.... I use an off axis guider... its a Godsend. Im learning most DSO with the orion. I absolutely love the hobby :) Clear Skies :)

[@rbrtck]

A binocular is really just two relatively small, low-magnification, wide-field-of-view telescopes paired together for use with both eyes simultaneously. This is the deepest way to look at and understand what they are. Some folks even do this with much larger telescopes or use special accessories to view through a single larger telescope with both eyes. You know all of this, of course, but I'm mentioning this for anyone who might read this.

[@protopines8372]

Thanks my dude

[@AGKyran]

Thanks to you!

[@georgemorley1029]

I’ve seen andromeda in my back garden through a pair of Nikon travelite 8x25 binoculars. Just start with binos people. They are nice, cheap, lightweight and if you bring a collapsible chair with you like a deckchair or similar, you can just lie back and gaze upwards at your leisure.

[@user-vt2ib7vz9u]

You're pure magic.

[@johnnyjr]

I am going to be watching these and soon I plan on getting my own telescope and viewing the stars myself. I used to stargaze when I was younger with my older brother and I haven't in so long and I miss it!

[@johnnyjr]

I feel like I have found my new favorite hobby. Life has felt so boring and I find that I am smiling ear to ear hearing this man talk. I cannot wait to get more into it!

[@ohwell2790]

I would suggest for those starting out a paper published in the Journal of Double Stars written by Darrell Grisham 3 inch Tasco of 3 doubles in Hercules 2008. Shows what can be done with small aperture telescopes.

[@gerryroush8391]

I had only about 300 US dollars so I got the Orion Resolux 7x50 binoculars a bit heavy but I can see whole field of view with glasses on love them Later I "stole" a pair of Fujinon made in USA mil spec binos for 40 Us dollars😊😊😊

[@cloudstrif]

Earned a sub my good sir.

[@borealisdreaming]

I only found your video today! Unfortunately after I got a 12x binoculars lol. Wish I'd known earlier ): Looking forward to a better informed telescope acquisition 😊 Thank you!

[@rbrtck]

My family was also too poor to afford a telescope when I was a kid. Regardless, I showed such an interest in astronomy that my mom bought me a $30 Steven Manufacturing (the famous maker of toy kaleidoscopes) 3" Star Worlds reflector (Newtonian, of course) telescope. The primary and secondary mirrors seemed pretty good, but the mount was so hard to use and the eyepiece was so bad that I decided that as much as I had dreamed of owning a telescope, I would rather have our $30 back, so I returned it. My family were shocked, but I knew we could put that $30 to better use. Had we been a middle-class family or anywhere close to that, however, I would have made the most out of that little telescope.

[@gerryroush8391]

I had a Stevens 3 inch but have not been able to find it

[@depannitasarker7665]

really useful

[@SamSam-qm1li]

I needed this video, thank you. I'm looking to get my first binoculars or telescope

[@richscales9376]

If you dont mind a little bit of chromatic abberation... an Explore scientific AR102 is nice :)... and not expensive.... there are models with tripods too. Start with a good refracter around 3 to 4 inch.) ( a 3 inch (80mm), theyre light, and great to travel with. will be a little cheaper... if you wanna pay a little more.... go for an ED doublet /:) like the fantadtic Orion ed 80 (though that model is very barebones) if you want a low cost goto scope (electronic) The nexstar from celestron is great, they do a range of sizes. Whatever you do dont go for a huge long want if you want to start deep space imaging... its a big learning curve....

[@Jonononon]

The way you explain everything is the work of gods

[@edting]

Thank you for the nice comments!

[@YeloSub7]

Love your videos and reviews of telescopes. Can you do some reviews of eyepieces? And why you choose the ones you use?

[@MikeLikesChannel]

You are my Polaris of astronomy, Ed!

[@edting]

Wonderful, thanks!

[@rebsredone450]

Thanks for for the video. I have been looking for something like that. May I respectfully suggest you revisit your “light loss with and without coatings” graphic. It appeared to me that the arithmetic was slightly off.

[@GaryMCurran]

Ed, I've watched a couple of your videos, and I've finally gotten around the subscribing. I like the stuff you're doing, and your presentations are easy to understand and straight forward. I'm looking forward to part 2 of this series. I hope you also will do something on Astrophotography, as that's where my interest lies. I have some gear, but a couple of years ago, I ran into job loss, eventual loss of my home, and it just went downhill from there. All my astrophotography gear, what's left of it, is in storage, and I hope by springtime to be in a position where I can have it back, replace the stuff I'm missing, and get out under the stars once again. In the meantime, I'm going to keep on watching as I expect to learn a lot from you.

[@Sandra-hj9mj]

hey...genuinley wishing the best to happen..even i have intrest in astrophotograhy...i am also saving up to buy my first camera....you will do great in your life..its just that god will give you some tough circumstances to know how well you deal with them...everything eventually sets back properly with time....wishing all the best friend...i am getting into college next year...you are going to do great in your life buddy..!! stay safe

[@GaryMCurran]

@@Sandra-hj9mj thank you for the kind words. There are a couple of other young ladies into astrophotography, AstroStace is one of them, look her up. I can't remember the other one right now, but this isn't a 'guys only' thing! 😄😄😃

[@rbrtck]

I still use a 7x35 binocular that has been around for years, even before I started observing, and it has the typical non-coated lenses and undersized Porro prisms that form the diamond-shaped exit pupils and dim the view. It still works fine in my suburban sky (on the good side of that), and it has helped me learn the sky over the years, but I know I'm missing out on some things when I look through the 6x30 finder on my main telescope. This finder is very basic and cheap, but it does have at least a simple magnesium fluoride coating, and of course it doesn't have a Porro prism. Despite the binocular offering 36% greater light-gathering potential with its larger aperture, I can readily and easily tell that I can see more and dimmer stars or other objects in my finder than in my binocular. This means the coatings (or lack thereof) and prisms (or lack thereof) make a pretty major difference.

[@Cortedad]

That story about “The Star” is equally wholesome and heartbreaking. Great outcome though

[@retribution1056]

Bro u are legendary

[@edting]

haha, thanks!

[@dimos15]

Very nice thnx

[@588158]

I used to have a pair of Bushnell 6 x 35 binoculars which had a field of view large enough to see the constellations very well were Ideal for star gazing but it seems 6 x 35s are not made any more.

[@robkeane]

Hey Ed, can I call you Ed? I feel like I can as as the way you presented this video, and explained everything you covered so clearly, I feel as if we've been friends for a long time. I subscribed to your channel, and naturally 'liked' the video. I live on Long Island (NY) and have always been interested in astrology, meteors, aurora borealis ... from a distance (no pun intended) I've also been interested in photography (sports of my kids) and I've seen some really awesome amateur photography and that has brought me to your channel. I do have a pair of 10x50 Minolta binoculars that I will use until the time comes that I am ready for a telescope. Thanks for saving me several hundred dollars out of the gate. I'll be picking up a few items from your list. Thanks again.

[@MegaGaggu]

Please make a video on observing deep sky in suburban/urban sky. Also do light pollution filters work with dobs?

[@jdowanderson]

Merry Christmas Ed

[@PeterJahans]

Glad I found your channel Ed, I'll soon be buying my first telescope since I was a kid (who owned one of those silly department store models many decades ago) and your videos are very informative. I'm already doing some astrophotography with my Nikon and star tracker with really nice results but looking forward to getting serious with more advanced optics and and an equatorial mount. I would like to see you talk soon about what we have available to us today to help us learn that we didn't have when we were young - software, smartphone apps and the internet. There are vast resources out there now that we can use to understand the night sky and help us identify and find objects using a smartphone and free computer software like Stellarium, not to mention all the terrific forums and YT channels dedicated to astronomy and astrophotography. I still like and purchase books and star charts but I'm amazed at what the kids today have at their disposal that we didn't have. I'm a new subscriber and looking forward to more excellent content!

[@Sandra-hj9mj]

heyy...i am also going to start astrophotography...i am 18 now and i am saving up to buy a camera...what lenses will suit me the most......and could you please tell me name of the star tracker tooo...i would be a great help...if my parents also help ,then i will be able to buy a sony a7iii full frame camera..please do suggest some lenses...and all the best in buying a new telescope...one day ,i will also get one....i am also an aspiring astrophysics getting into college next year... stay safe thank you

[@PeterJahans]

Hey Sandra, welcome to the astrophotography world. Since I'm a beginner myself, I can only help from my limited experience but since you asked... My star tracker is the SkyWatcher Star Adventurer Pro. It works great for tracking the right ascension of stars, moon and planets when polar aligned accurately. Get a polar align app for your smartphone to help with that. Also get a planetarium app like Stellarium, Star Walk or Night Sky all of which are awesome tools. I have been using my 70-200mm telephoto with a 1.7x teleconverter (340mm max focal length) on my Nikon D600 with very good results. This would be considered "wide-field" equipment, good for shooting the larger objects such as the Andromeda galaxy, the Pleiades cluster, and many nebulae. Wide angle lenses are good for full sky shots of the milky way core (spring and summer skies in the northern hemisphere) especially if you can get out of town away from city light pollution. Another popular star tracker is the iOptron SkyTracker Pro. I strongly advise you to check out the websites and videos of Trevor Jones (astrobackyard.com) and Peter Zelinka for tons of information and tutorials on using a star tracker with camera and lens. Peter has been using a 150-600mm telephoto zoom with his Nikon D750 on the iOptron tracker for most of his astrophotography. His work is excellent. There is much to learn in this hobby but thankfully there are many experts (including Ed Ting right here) who can provide a wealth of information to get you going. All the best to you in your college aspirations!

[@Sandra-hj9mj]

@@PeterJahans thank you so much for this precious information and taking your time for me...cheers to your journey ...i am pretty sure that you are going to do amazing in astrophotography...in the end we are looking at the same sky so we are kind of refractory or reflectory exchanging gazes....all the best...!!! and thanks again...!

[@algonice5894]

Thanks for another great video Ed. I have been looking into larger binoculars like the Oberwerks XL series which are 100mm and 120mm. What are your thoughts on big binoculars like those?

[@rbrtck]

An additional word on coatings, especially on binocular optics: some binoculars are famous for having highly reflective coatings, such as the ones that reflect red light pretty brightly. As common sense would suggest, these binoculars are losing more light than ones that have coatings that reflect dimly (regardless of the color), as they should. The dim reflections (often limited to a narrow range of the spectrum) mean that less light is lost than with normal, brighter glass reflections, while the bright colored reflections are inferior because they're reflecting quite a bit of light instead of transmitting it through. I don't know why coatings like this are made. Perhaps they're based on mil-spec binoculars that for military reasons block (filter) certain wavelengths from entering, and maybe they're the same, but whether they are or not, this is not good for astronomy. Of course, there are astronomical filters that work the same way, but those are designed for certain specific purposes relevant to astronomy (visual or photographic) rather than the military. The bottom line is that binoculars should have the nice dim (and usually colored) reflections, not bright ones.

[@keithnordin1116]

You can always get binoviewers. For a telescope. Anyone will enjoy it more with even an ST80. I've gotten one of the Meade 80s for $65.00.

[@Kittensagere]

So I don’t have a pair of binoculars but I do have an monocular which is something that visually impaired people used to see Like signs and labels on food and such

[@Handles-R-Lame]

One more thing id like to add. Have you ever purchased any 60mm SharpStar ED or AstroTech ED Apo Refractors? There are a few different versions. I believe they are all similarly made; FPL-53 ED glass, dual focuser, doublet etc. I purchased High Point Scientifics version the Aperatura 60ED not that long ago, and its a great little scope for the price. I think even William Optics may have there own take on it aswell. Needless to say its a wide field beast for astrophotography and would recommend anyone looking for a smaller sized, quality telescope. Plus the colors on these babies are outta this world literally! Thanks again for all that you do Ed! Take care and clear skies! ✌😁🔭

[@Handles-R-Lame]

Lol i forgot the video before you had an Astrotech ED you were reviewing! Well my question still stands for the 60mm tho! Haha