Why stacking defensive items is not a great idea | Zac vs Kled

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Patch: 13.23

[@edvinassamonskis3519]

God I love bwipo content so much

[@foxglov3s]

9:41 this part is actually redundant on Zac, as knockups arent reduced by tenacity (and therefore aren't increased by negative tenacity)

[@hellup]

It's still worth getting tenacity against "knock up" cc because very few knock ups are pure knockups. They are often instead a combination of knockup + stun. So getting negative tenacity is still absolutely worth on Zac if you want to be a cc menace.

[@foxglov3s]

@@hellup true! it's worth mentioning though that many of these are sub 1 second microstuns though that -20% tenacity will be adding .1 to .2 onto max, at which point the slot is probably just better spent . Also, in the case of getting tenacity to reduce them, it's often not worth because there is a 0.3s cap on how low you can reduce any disables duration.

[@oscarcorrido626]

no idea that zacs voice gets higher as he gets smaller, nice idea to integrate it like that

[@simons9264]

yea this is quick becoming my fav league channel

[@steatlthyfolf]

same

[@velinahik939]

48 ability haste with FULL BUILD with a champion that lives and breathes with ability haste makes zac sooooo insanely much weaker now that it used to be. Ive otp'ed zac top for a couple of seasons (master/GM euw) and imo it's a rly bad pick most of the time in the current meta for many reasons 1. ignite used to make zac a lane bully even in early but teleport got buffed so much you can't go it anymore 2. insane bruiser meta - every single splitpusher in the game outscales zac and zac is supposed to do nothing but teamfight all game which makes split pushers strong af 3. bot lane meta was also more favourable because zac is a rly good weakside champ, if enemy jg ganks top you always used to win the game bcs ur bot got ahead. now enemy top 1v9 4. literally all tank mythics are rly bad on zac imo after evenshroud nerfs, it's literally better to build 2-3 legendaries before mythic + legendary tank items gave barely any ability haste 5. zac can't build ap bcs of the ap ratio nerfs so you have a lot less carry potential (cant kill hullbreakers and/or dominate sidelane for example) in right comps, elo and matchups it's obviously strong af especially in mid game but as u can see even pro players have very low impact on it if we're being honest

[@kudohlol9379]

you are a really good coach / teacher, very clear, good information, all knowledge love it. When do you pick zac?

[@curatorantoine4081]

Bwipo has such a beautiful smile

[@Manwu5]

Hey buddy do you have coaching sessions? Would love to

[@jimadler2430]

Did he ever switch the anathemas off the kled?

[@nanobotspace]

The sad reality going tank into top 50/50

[@KomandarmKnuckles]

Only champ I've found crown to be good on is Teemo into Jax

[@benoithaeuser6085]

Zac mid with phase rush is very strong

[@cruxae]

wp by kled. He knew to keep Zac side lane. Bwipo ate too much gold as a tank. Should have given more gold to carries. If we went a proper build he would be able to kill Zac easily. Hydra + black cleaver + eclipse + mortal reminder and zac would be useless.

[@dimitriszevgitis4764]

Its blue flubber