EFAP #33 - SPOILERS - AvengE;Rs: Endgame Full Breakdown - Ft. E;R - No seriously..... Ft. E;R

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Timestamps - 00:00 Go! 1:00 Enders Game 1:56 Wolf Superchats 7:01 Copyright tisms 7:50 efap movies 8:53 E;R awakens for the first time 10:00 Avengers Endgame discussion begins + thumb ratings 11:55 spoiler warning 12:53 Time travel Tisms start 14:30 starting words 15:10 subjective takes 16:23 time zone tisms 17:13 ant man and the wasp criticisms 17:59 Nebula discussion 19:12 captain Wahmen rage Further discussions on Endgame follow with a scene by scene analysis + IW tangents 29:07 discussions on rat 35:03 Time travel Tisms volume 2 44:40 Thor critique 47:24 Hawkeye discussions 49:46 shitting on time travel about how the Avengers shit on time travel while also shitting on time travel 51:00 mention of primer as a good time travel movie + making sense of time travel movies 56:23 Grandfather paradox 1:00:28 Glorious diagram and discussion of said diagram + timelines 1:24:40 Thor discussions 1:31:00 Nebula being a tism 1:33:35 New York 2012 discussion 1:39:10 Vormir discussion 1:41:47 Act 3 1:52:49 Thanos discussion 2:01:00 Nebula vs Nebula 2:02:20 Cap picking up Mjolnir 2:06:07 Portals 2:13:35 Whamen Time, please clap 2:24:40 Tony's death 2:34:09 Captism America 2:47:40 final ratings 3:00:00 Quinton is a misaginist 3:03:34 Hbomberguy is wrong 3:04:28 Hbomberguy is a member of the toxic brood? 3:06:05 drawing memes 3:21:35 Akbars takes 3:26:55 Papa Franku on the Efap crew 3:29:08 video memes begin 3:31:37 beowyn art memes 3:42:17Jay reg video + are we video essayists 3:48:00 Is Aang better than Korra? Ft E;R after someone wakes him up 4:16:40 E;R answers chat questions 4:49:00 who is best waifu to who is best Mary Sue? 4:55:50 more memes 4:57:15 Wolf leaves 4:59:07 Superchats

[@Warfolomei]

Thank you xD

[@austinwoods466]

You have earned 10,000,00 XP!

[@WaterMeLoan64]

Wii Love You 3,000.

[@soyuzdavillan721]

Thank you SOOOOOOOOO MUCH for these timestamps!!

[@reysolo3672]

Thank you!!!

[@faultypillars9697]

E;R: *minimal speaking* video: Korra is the best Avat- E;R: Who has awakened me from my slumber?

[@MultiCrimsonRain]

When does that part happen?

[@deathsdoor07]

I hope he does a response vid to that poor take of Aang and Korra.

[@zedbee2736]

Crimson Rain around 3:38:00 I think?

[@k2k4]

She's the avatar and he has to deal with it.

[@tardigrade8019]

@@zedbee2736 close, 3:48

[@jakefrost7404]

3:48:08 - Mauler pokes E;R with a sharp stick.

[@Ike_of_pyke]

In the eye!

[@ajohnymous5699]

Bless you for posting this, I was able to immediately jump into the gang fucking with E;R.

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

It was super effective!

[@Lazarou101]

Valkyrie gets plastered for hundreds of years: Supermodel Thor gets plastered for 5 years: Big Lebowski

[@morelstrike]

Well Valkyrie was at least doing something, Thor Was just sitting on his ass. Even if you are doing day to day work it still big difference from doing nothing.

[@GhostLink92]

Fortnite will do that to ya.

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

Different people have very different metabolisms. Some people tend to accumulate fat whereas others have bodies that are very good at using or getting rid of excess fat.

[@jamiekagemori1299]

Phil Mike Hunt >captain pointless You mean best avenger

[@SPTX.]

@@jamiekagemori1299 He was talking about manvers.

[@Furcifer93]

I like E;R, especially when he gets to talking more. That Aang/Korra debate really got him going. Hopefully being on EFAP more in the future will get him used to live shows.

[@fearlessleader343]

When?

[@Furcifer93]

@@fearlessleader343 3:48:15

[@fearlessleader343]

Stabbers thank you

[@cat_jk00]

Rags talks a ton, seemingly over E;R at points.

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

This happens in every stream though, wolf, rag and mauler dominates while the guest stays ackwardly silent.

[@Laxhoop]

It would have been funny if E;R literally only said “Hi” and “Bye” at the start and end of the stream, and was totally silent for everything else.

[@ClingingMars]

I was expecting this meme given how quiet he was at first

[@LieutenantSilver]

It would have subverted expectations but only by aggressively disappointing them. EFAP are smarter than this. _Argably._

[@gobbotits1686]

I skipped ahead 1 hour (cause I don't have 7 hours of free time) and still didn't hear e;r talk, so I just went back, and watched some of his other videos

[@MilkT0ast]

So u dudes are just here to listen to e;r talk?

[@luckierloser]

@@MilkT0ast Duh

[@FutchCassidy]

Black Panther is great in every film that is not titled “Black Panther”.

[@peterjoyfilms]

Dr Strange is also great in every film that is not titled "Dr Strange"

[@MrDavo511]

Aharkhan but also dr strange because it’s a great movie

[@Jdudec367]

black panther was pretty good so was strange they didn't appear that much in endgame

[@brightgarinson3099]

@@Jdudec367 Strange was good. We wuz kangz was boring.

[@Jdudec367]

@@brightgarinson3099 black panther?far from it

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

Captain Marvel is Superman, without all the moral baggage that makes the character interesting.

[@milliondoller06]

I need no channel youtube! Exactly

[@BennysGamingAttic]

I said this and my friends nearly bit my head off.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

@@BennysGamingAttic They are idiots. No offense.

[@JohnSmith-op3qj]

@@euglenii i just realized, what IS her weakness? By and large, nothing of the sort was ever explained.

[@SPTX.]

@@JohnSmith-op3qj Because she has none. Edit : actually she has one, she's not omnipotent. Yeah her only weakness is to not be the biblical god.

[@RobynReanimates]

I'm still surprised and quite happy that you guys managed to get E;R

[@borob.5168]

@đøPpƏłĞāŅģƏŔ ānøņ Give him time to get used to it. Not everybody fluently talks in podcasts from the first go.

[@brasteen1]

@@borob.5168 Indeed I've been in a podcast only once and it was extremely awkward. Making points while talking on the fly is easier said than done.

[@maskeddog2077]

Poor E;R, I imagine him looking at the floor and spilling his spaghetti all over trying to get a word in while Rags and MauLer constantly beat him to the punch (look at how many times his avatar lights up but he doesn't say anything), then when they ask him a question he just starts with "uuuuuuuuhhhh... I have... uh.... no opinion on that" *awkward silence* You'd have thought he was all charismatic and nonchalant, but he turned out to be an adorably awkward little sperg. Give E,R a hug everyone.

[@maskeddog2077]

I watched a couple more hours now, when they bring up the Korra video everybody's like "alright E;R do your thing" and E;R is like [SWEATS LOUDLY] Funny stuff.

[@warpath8453]

Yeah..he should have known this content better... it seems like so many of the important movies he hasnt even seen, amd the ones he has seen is a vague recollection.. people say he isnt talking because hes shy, it probably has more to do with him not being very knowledgeable, atleast compared to MauLer. Could have done without him.

[@cleanserofnoobs4162]

When you realize a rat save the universe and Captain Amarica let 9/11 happen.

[@sammydray5919]

Wait what?? How did 9/11 come into this??

[@cleanserofnoobs4162]

@@sammydray5919 It's a joke. Because he went back in time.

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

@@sammydray5919 More specifically, Cap went back to the past to live out a life with Peggy Carter, presumably laying low so as to not interfere with the current timeline's own frozen Steve Rogers. Thus implying that most of the major bad things that happened during that time (like 9/11) happened on his watch. We jest about actually blaming him, of course.

[@WasLilChrisnowbigish]

Has it even been confirmed that 9/11 even happend in the mcu

[@cleanserofnoobs4162]

@@WasLilChrisnowbigish I believe it was actually mentioned in civil war.

[@lostcause78]

E;R was a surprise. He seemed almost too polite in that he would stop talking as soon as one of you wankers started speaking over him. Still, I enjoyed his input - hoping he'll be back again in the future.

[@muttonsword]

And people call him a Nazi

[@MetalFire1998]

@@muttonsword he is. look at the election of hitler and his speech before the nsdap. In the third row on the left. There he stands... the fking nazi

[@michaelrodriguez470]

Yeah, I I think Rags should've let him talk more. Seemed like a couple times he wanted to say something when Rags would cut in.

[@Whereisthearmynow]

It's the tism

[@SPTX.]

@@muttonsword nazis just happen to be nice guys in the real world. Who would have thought? I guess life isn't like hollywood and the history books are full of lies; but that's just a guess.

[@JREG]

YOU GUYS ARE ALL COOL AND WILL BE SPARED MY SATIRE (but srsly thanks for the share and double thanks for the responsible crediting)

[@cat_jk00]

Hey it's that one guy. Nice.

[@cat_jk00]

Just kidding, love your stuff

[@iamnotinvolved1309]

🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩 🍩🍩Dad is that you🍩🍩 🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩

[@Debicus]

OH NO, you spoke to the baaaaad long men, you are now diagnosed with racist.

[@majpeaches]

Nah, Thanos def used the Power Stone to fight Hulk. He puts the stone in the gauntlet and basically charges up

[@CaptainCraptain]

Watching this after all of the phase 4 crap passed now, it’s really sad to hear the hopefulness of everyone for what’s to come

[@sithsaiyan4529]

Yep. I came back to hear their fresh thoughts. Oh how sad it is.

[@notsae66]

Yet another reason to hate Disney. Never forget what they took from us.

[@hue_jazz59]

I can't even think of the mcu without bursting into flames . Such MASSIVE disappointment

[@HyoureiKyouran]

Thanos would have won if he had his helicopter.

[@jaypeterman9721]

hk_1123581321 maybe if he identified as one, maybe the Avengers might have gone easy on him

[@michaeldorsey9231]

He looked like he was fighting with helicopter blades; does that count?

[@Relugus]

@@michaeldorsey9231 His sword was obviously from his helicopter.

[@amanibob1416]

He could have been using the instant-teleport thingy he used to get on the ground once... THREE TIMES!!! One: He gets back to his ship. Two: He get near the car/time machine. Three: he slaughter any foe and destroy the car/time machine. Four: he get things done.

[@E.B711]

@@amanibob1416 huh

[@electricbayonet2]

"Your writers were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." -Dr. Ian Malcolm, regarding the casual use of time-travel in 'Endgame.'

[@metalliclark86]

''Now you are Rian Johnson''.

[@MassiveiusBiggus]

"Yes." -Some Crackhead

[@hue_jazz59]

Every remake/reboot I say this

[@Longshanks1690]

So Thanos’ plan is literally “Let the past die, kill it if you have to?”

[@guitarded55]

Purple Kyle Ben

[@markopusic8258]

Yes but also remember that "No one is ever really gone"

[@matthewmuir8884]

To be fair, he came up with it on the fly after learning that his original plan resulted in an "ungrateful" universe.

[@Jonny-xq5cb]

its the only way to become what you were meant to be!

[@theobserver9951]

Where have I heard that before

[@oozmakappa6415]

E;R is a great guest and I hope he comes back to EFAP. Doesn't matter if he doesn't talk too much, it's still nice that he's here.

[@guitarded55]

Those eyes... When I see those eyes

[@nintendo101ish]

Yeah ok we all know it's you E;R

[@moonlightrouge3956]

I mean to be a fair a rat in a san Francisco warehouse... Im surprised it took 5 years to happen

[@ryanrodriguez3319]

Ouch.

[@thoughtfulpug1333]

>Sees Captain Marvel get manpunched out of the fight > *Hard Nut*

[@OP-LCybSTR]

I got wet

[@BelugaNetwork]

Mauler: Korra is a better avatar than Aang E;R: *Enters The Avatar State*

[@themysticman956]

"Doubt"

[@xorras8037]

I would have never guessed E;R would be so shy.

[@politicallyincorrectthrowa6384]

He said before on twitter that he doesn't work well in live action. Hell I'm shocked that they got him on here at all.

[@xorras8037]

Now that i started watching fully, instead of skipping around, i noticed that. He probably agreed so people would stop poking him about it.

[@Eliel20117]

Xorras /ourgoy/

[@godofall7624]

Xorras yeah, he’s a bit of a shy bastard

[@MilkT0ast]

I can relate He’s only comfortable by himself Regardless how smart or funny he can be, he won’t open up that easily. Main concerns being looking like a fool. I’m sure he looks up to some of these guys in some way and doesn’t want to ruin his “image”

[@teedee9393]

You guys should have brought E;R on for a different subject. It was clear he didn't really care to talk about Endgame.

[@Disfigure7]

this

[@leonhartdragomir8948]

They should bring him on to talk about the live action Avatar whenever it comes out.

[@spenser9908]

What's E;R's appeal? I found him boring as fuck.

[@aTalkingKoala8294]

@@spenser9908 his personality is just really calm. He rarely uploads but his content is very good.

[@spenser9908]

@@aTalkingKoala8294 Yeah I take it back actually, just watched some of his stuff and he's really good tbf.

[@luke8801]

What's so weird about that women shot is none of them even know each other. None of them. Wasp hasn't met any of them, neither has Pepper, Captain Marvel, Mantis, Gamora is from the past, Valkyrie knows none of them. Only Wanda barely knows Okoye and Shuri from Infinity War but why would Okoye separate from her troop she leads? It's like they know there is a camera there, and despite being so unrealistic because none of them even know each other or even met, they all convene to one spot on a crowded deadly battlefield, away from all the men just because they are women. Plus, they say Captain Marvel needs help. That's coming from a guard with a fucking spear. A teenager with some stun guns. One valkyrie on a pegasus. Mantis. The only one there can seriously help is Wanda, who almost killed Thanos. The rest are there just for girl power even though none of them know each other. Why wouldn't the thousands of men on the battlefield - Asgardians, Wakandans, Sorcerers, Ravagers, even edge into that shot. On the other hand, that Wanda scene with Thanos was incredible.

[@minimundus1712]

E;R was awsome first he was a lil bit meh and talked not so much but when Mauler showed him the Avatar video he was ready and full of rage and anger...... Stream was awsome wee need more E;R

[@charlie1234500]

I really wish he was like a permanent member

[@wolfven4623]

Abit superficial but I did finally see cap say "Avengers Assemble"....... been waiting 11 years for that.

[@Kwazy-mojo]

He whispered it though

[@user-yf2hw3bp4p]

@@Kwazy-mojo well technically he shouted Avengers and whispered Assemble, for that dramatic effect. However, this doesn't change he still said something

[@mantha6912]

@@user-yf2hw3bp4p it sorta does, 99% of them probably couldn't hear lol

[@user-yf2hw3bp4p]

@@mantha6912 whether they can hear is irrelevant. I can say hello in my room right now intended for my parent in the other room. If they don't hear it, it doesn't change I said it. Saying is dependent on the person speaking not on the person hearing.

[@ujjwalmishra8962]

@@mantha6912 shhh dont think about it

[@carmandirda]

Best part of the movie was Thanos punting Carol across the field. 56/10.

[@megashark1013]

"YEET!"

[@paragonpoints8420]

I went fucking ballistic at Cap saying Heil HYDRA.

[@garywintle8023]

Scarlet Witch was the only Avenger to truly beat Thanos with her Chaos Magic.

[@viruspimpc420]

We love you 3000/10

[@thibaldus3]

My theater loved it.

[@goji3755]

I think a big part of the reason Thanos is so much more resentful of the Avengers despite this version of him never having fought them before, in addition to a lot of what you guys bring up in the video, is that he respected them to a certain degree in Infinity War because he had some level of interaction with at least a few of them before things got violent. He learned that they possessed certain personality traits that he respected - a level of integrity, accountability, and in particular, an ability to accept ones failures and learn from them. The problem is, Thanos doesn't see things in terms of good and evil the way our heroes do. He believes that prosperity requires sacrifice and that failure and responsibility should be embraced as elements necessary for growth. Making it worse is that the time-displaced Thanos doesn't get to see the traits that his older counterpart recognized in the Avengers. So while all of the Avengers see their quest as trying to right the most heinous crime ever committed, he simply interprets their efforts as an attempt to deny their failure, deny their responsibility, deny their growth. To him, this is a childishly stubborn, selfish, and short-sighted view that will render everything he gave up for the universe pointless and imperil everything he thought he was saving. Obviously this infuriates him and destroys any respect he would have had for the Avengers if they hadn't interfered with the timestream. "You couldn't live with your own failure. And where did that bring you? Back to me."

[@wrayday7149]

goji3755 , well he saw that he succeeded, and they found a way to undo his work, so he isn’t as smug as his other, no one can stop me now, self. Also, now he knows the cats out of the bag and it’s a race to the gems. Also, also, it’s hinted that he failed in the past, with the failing to sacrifice something he loved, which is why he adopted Gamora... so that stuck with him.

[@Seomus]

We're seeing the true Thanos. He has this vision of himself as the savior of the universe. But it has to be saved HIS WAY. It is why he doesn't consider any other method. And when he learns that people are going to be grateful to him for what he did, his ego rears. So he'll use this power to make everything over so it's his way from the beginning.

[@HimothyHimsworthy]

I was a bit disappointed with Thanos in end game but I love this analysis and it makes me appreciate him more

[@Tomgd420]

Actually he does see alot of what he had Respected of them...... Well as much as Nebula was able to see. Thanos in Endgame I don't think was done by the same person. He knows Stark in IW he says I like you was cursed with knowledge and yet no reference here no acknowledgement and it would have been a perfect. Thanos even at the beginning of IW didn't kill Heimdal needlessly and we see what he does is based on what he considers necessity especially with Gamora when she was younger. Even the Thanos in Endgame would have been more relaxed and just aimed to whipe the Avengers out as something that is needed. When this Thanos sees Nebula has betrayed him nothing no reaction no emotion based on that action and when he sees his death Ebony is the one to react and there is only 1 thing ge cares about. His failure they speak of is Titan he was powerless to stop his people from facing the same thing he was trying to prevent others to go thru.

[@joesomebody3365]

Excellent comment, interesting analysis; Thanos is the best part of both Avenger's movies that he's in.

[@TheMasterJCL]

E;R not being into it was kind of a bummer, should bring him back one day but pump him with red bull beforehand.

[@benwatford3068]

Well I mean he’s surrounded by furries

[@V_y-r_e]

And a gasmaskie

[@dragonknightleader1]

Or just talk about Avatar. That's what he cared about when he started.

[@Kancerru]

@@benwatford3068 I was hoping those were just profile pictures.

[@denkerbosu3551]

@@Kancerru wolf kinda jokes kind doesn't joke about being a furry. Idk about the dog. I think he just liked the dog with glasses.

[@sugarysugarysweet]

Wolf is right, Quinton needs a beard. Shaved Quinton scares me. Also, all the anime fan art comes when E;R did. Of course.

[@ThatBugBehindYou]

The beard hides the insanity.

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

HIS *_CHIN!_*

[@HimothyHimsworthy]

He just always look like shit

[@KheptlaxaXonu]

Uncle Iroh is the best mentor character. Change my mind.

[@aTalkingKoala8294]

Changing your mind here would be impossible.

[@Epsilon191]

I'm probably gonna get crucified here but, who?

[@ryaneftink7364]

Hayden Rodriguez Avatar Character. Zuko’s Uncle.

[@Epsilon191]

@@ryaneftink7364 ohhhh. Thanks

[@matthewmuir8884]

Why would I try? It's true.

[@gilsonpassos1047]

"They both did things that changed the world". Aang saved it from a never ending war, Korra made it unstable and full of hostile spirits and yeah she doomed the countless spirits of ancient the defenders of the planet to oblivion, including Roku and Aang. Yep, Korea was _great_

[@Jdudec367]

how did she boom the spirits?

[@azh698]

@@Jdudec367 You need to (not) see the ending of Season 2 to find out.

[@Jdudec367]

I saw it was more so her just freeing the spirits

[@Pawonashi1]

Rags: If they have another "Guardians...", we'll get more Thor MauLer: Oh god yeah *excited laugh* I'm so ready for that! Rags: I really want that so much, I really, realllyy... want to see that. *Sigh* dreams and expectations are beautiful things, aren't they...

[@jomarcato4894]

The future is so assssss 😂

[@Jaymalkin980]

Is proof we live in the worst timeliness.

[@lukenotskywalker2957]

I likes when E;R talks about the chosen ones

[@michaeldorsey9231]

Timestamp?

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

@@michaeldorsey9231 About 3 and a half hours.

[@KiririnOnline]

"clearly they must be stopped"

[@tardigrade8019]

Avaar Video: Aang rarely had to deal with government bodies opposing him looks at Ba Sing Se aRE YuO SurE aBouT ThAT

[@LevenScholar]

And you know...THE FIRE NATION

[@TheSaladKing]

MauLer, please please for the love of God make an emergency rant/ EFAP mini or something on game of thrones last night. My blood is boiling and all I can feel is anger, I don't understand why people keep letting rian Johnson write and direct things.

[@JohnSmith-op3qj]

Wait, was Rian Johnson involved in GoT?

[@zedbee2736]

Well you’re in luck

[@kren62]

Did they start worshipping brie Larson

[@zedbee2736]

@@kren62 I want to answer but wtf is your profile picture and why lmao

[@zedbee2736]

Ryan Johnson wasn't involved, but the past three episodes have done worse damage to the show than TLJ did for Star Wars, so far as I've heard.

[@krennicsaspirations4883]

"The Cosmic Chicken heard our prayers, and has graced us with E;R's presence". - Bilmon Bag;le face

[@lorddolamite6141]

They finally got the special guest, Rag''''''s to come on.

[@MrSmuuf]

Safe lil' take here: Endgame is the RoTJ to Infinity War's ESB. Time travel was the ewoks to the rest of Endgame's...rest of Jedi. ...

[@samwallaceart288]

MrSmuuf I thought of this before. Infinity War is the best movie but has too much of a cliffhanger; Endgame is a hot mess, but is the most _satisfying_ movie.

[@Jonny-xq5cb]

Ewoks are my fettish!

[@Jonny-xq5cb]

@@samwallaceart288 Summed up perfectly

[@scottski02]

Had the same thought myself. Bet you anything that will be the general view for these two films years from now

[@amanibob1416]

It's excusable at best, botched by default and I would argue to the death that this sh*t was about 45 minutes that could've been cut or never existed to begin with. You can appreciate the nods and there was genuinely good stuff in that, but 45 minutes of the movie was bonus stuff we didn't need to see in the theater.

[@wlfmanjack]

Captain Marvel didn't necessarily ruin Endgame but it truly shows the flaws in making her this powerful You have the MCU that has always more less tried to stay within this window of relative power levels for years, no one's ever too powerful where they can't receive help or can't be applicable to future team ups. Iron man was shown to be very strong and powerful but he was never shown to be too strong or powerful for Civil War to work However you just got Captain Marvel to say fuck consistency, she's just super fucking powerful because she's just better than everyone else. Question if you put her in Thor Ragnorok instead of Valkyrie would there be any tension in helping out Thor and Hulk? If she was in Avengers 1, would she be as much of help as Thor, Iron man, and Hulk or could she just do that job entirely herself? I mean how is this character suppose to fit in the MCU when not even Thanos can challenge her, who is she ever going to team up with in movies outside her own solo films that doesn't narratively feel mismatched. I assumed with Captain Marvel the next phase heroes were gonna start getting as powerful as her. Stormbreaker Thor could have more to show than what was in Infinity War, maybe we'll get to see World Breaker Hulk, maybe Iron Man has a new suit on par with them. But no she's just op because.... I don't know, because women?

[@moonlightrouge3956]

She's op because she's captain marvel not because she's a woman, captain Marvel would be just as powerful if it was the male version. And you already got a peak at how they're gonna handle her power level, she'll only be involved if it's an existential threat, that's why nick fury didn't contact her until last minute. Like the movie said she's in charge of taking care multiple planets not involving earth.

[@thedoomofsodan5163]

They should had brought her in By Phase 4, if at all. And do it soley in outer space. And dont give her lightspeed. And give her a character....

[@takaro0]

​@@thedoomofsodan5163 Exactly. Every scene with her sucked. Brie is so miscast, she's always expressionless, so boring to watch and yes, she's also badly written. This movie made me even more pissed off that they haven't made a Black Widow movie yet, that would've been perfect instead of Captain Feminazi.

[@wlfmanjack]

@@moonlightrouge3956 1) Captain Marvel wasn't that OP in the comics, she was never the strongest Avenger, she's lost plenty of times and people like Thor Iron man and Thanos could lay her out. 2) Losing the Tesserect in Avengers 1 is kind of a big deal, a human could have taken over the world with it and Fury had no idea what a God could do with a mysterious glowy cube with infinite power. There's no excuse to risk earth's safety and countless people's lives on a bet that current heroes could handle it cause of how many unknowns would be. Hell with how OP she is, it be no different than having her in the final battle of Endgame as how easy it is for her 3) Having Threats specifically big enough for her to handle limits how she can be used for the MCU. She already didn't fit in Endgame cause she could have easily lightspeed all of Thanos's troops and Thanos himself. Narratively this would be like having DBS Goku in Game of Thrones the power difference in anything he'd be in would eliminate any tension and any manufactured tension would be the result of bad writing. All you can really use her for is any Captain Marvel films not Avengers not any team ups not anything There's literally no excuse to have current heroes and villains relative to each other for over 10 years and then out of no where just say "CaPtAiN mArVeL cAn BeAt Em AlL eAsY cAuSe ShE tHe StRoNgEsT"

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

@@wlfmanjack This. All of it. Also, Goku in Game of Thrones at least has potential to be very entertaining. Captain Larson has no such potential, not without completely overhauling her character.

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

Hbomb: Endgame is a movie for small children Endgame: Contains - Copious swearing Onscreen death Onscreen suicide Onscreen murder Onscreen dismemberment Onscreen alcohol abuse Onscreen self harm (potentially, I couldn’t really tell whether Hawkeye was cutting his gloves or his arm) Additionally, much of the first act is very slow and would likely bore a little one, and later scenes can be pretty intense and could scare them.

[@fredrikgranstrom6743]

fuck Hbomber guy

[@PurpleColonel]

A more graphic beheading than Revenge of the Sith.

[@Hawbitten]

Well really the only one of those I'd object to in a kid movie is the searing. The books I read as kid had all the other things.

[@M3gabassUltra]

Hawkeye never cuts himself. He was wiping the blood off his sword but I agree with everything else this movie is definitely not for kids.

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

Jai CH You’re right, I couldn’t really see what he was doing due to my shitty eyesight.

[@Brian-rx9sp]

Seeing E;R outside his natural habitat is quite an experience.

[@highdefinition450]

What is his natural habitat tho

[@ohfrickitsphil]

I just realized that Captain Marvel is every Neil Breen character. The best that there ever was and will be at being whatever.

[@SPTX.]

Even neil breen shows more restraint in his power levels.

[@Film0Graphic]

I remember when I first saw the movie and they established that Steve Rogers lead a self help group after the snap and I genuinely thought it was set up, when they revealed Thor to be fat, miserable and depressed I connected the two thinking there would be a scene where Steve helps Thor out with therapy, even bringing back the line “gotta move on”, then that would be the drive for Thor to help out. As you can imagine my disappointment when that never happened

[@highdefinition450]

Fucking sucks how they make fun of a clearly depressed and PTSD-riddled man. He has a panic attack at one point and Rocket just slaps him like wtf man

[@Film0Graphic]

@@highdefinition450 Ikr, it was super distracting with how much they made fun of him

[@gottesurteil3201]

Nope gotta shove in the ghey no time for Thor!

[@Film0Graphic]

@@gottesurteil3201 yet they have plenty of time for an overly long Fortnite joke and showing us the Hulk dab

[@BennysGamingAttic]

I think how they handle Tony's death was perfect, from a writing perspective. Comparing it to Luke's death, they handled Tony with such respect to the character, it was really great screenwriting. I loved it.

[@PurpleColonel]

You're telling me Tony dying after snapping his fingers and sitting down is more respectful than Luke saving the entire resistance, watching the twin suns set as he gracefully fades away like his mentors did years before?

[@JohnDoe-yp3zv]

@@PurpleColonel Yes, Luke dying alone and fading to nothingness to save maybe a few dozen people without ever truly recovering from Rian Johnson's character assassination (as beautiful an aesthetic Luke dying while looking at the binary suns was) was *totally* better than Tony dying using all 6 infinity stones to ensure the entire universe's safety from Thanos after several movies of character development (with no skips in logical character progression; everything that Tony does makes perfect sense for him to do, unlike Luke, who should have never considered killing a family member let alone his student) bringing him from selfish asshole to what could essentially be Thanos's nemesis, dying slowly as he is reassured by those he loves that he can finally rest, followed by a funeral that nearly brought me to tears as basically the entire franchise sends him off with the memento from the first Iron Man movie, the first portable arc reactor: "Proof that Tony Stark has a heart". I cannot imagine a better sendoff for the character, nor a greater way for him to die. As beautiful a shot as Luke's death was, the circumstances were absolutely horrendous and the damage to the franchise is nigh irreparable. The difference is night and day.

[@krissuyx]

@@PurpleColonel I think you might have accidentally watched some fan film on youtube, instead of the Last Jedi.

[@RobertMorgan]

@@krissuyx irony, the fan film would be arguably better

[@krissuyx]

@@RobertMorgan Exactly my point.

[@S4ns]

I'm only 1.5 hours in, so I don't known if he wakes up later but thank god E;R came in for the scintillating conversation. EDIT: 3 hours, someone check E;R's pulse.

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

He talks occasionally, but doesn't really say much at a time until about 3:48:15

[@ronin_0421]

Yeeah

[@fearlessleader343]

If only E;R was more talkative

[@dragonknightleader1]

E;r was very low energy.

[@dusky5535]

I have a feeling he was a bit nervous speaking live. Which I wouldn’t expect, but I must say once he got going he did pretty well.

[@borob.5168]

Come on, did you ever hear him in a podcast? It's obviously his first run, he's getting used to it. Give him time.

[@stijnvandevyver7958]

@@dusky5535 I wouldn't be surprised it took this long to get him on is because he was nervous to be on a podcast.

[@alanvitorj.b.fragamoreira7668]

He always struck me as a bit of an anti social type, or at least too introverted to care/want to participate in podcasts, nothing wrong with that though, but it's good to see he at least gave it a try

[@DrLipkin]

The entire Star Wars OT wouldn't have happened if the R5 unit hadn't taken that exact moment to break, leading to R2-D2 being purchased instead. I'm fine with a rat freeing Ant-man.

[@GoblinKnightLeo]

And apparently that was the result of a conversation between the R5 and R2-D2. Literally he broke his own motivator.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

Star Wars has the Force to account for Deus Ex Machinae. That said the novelization dosles explain that R2 flat out pulled rank on the poor rust bucket.

[@DrLipkin]

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 It HAD the Force to explain Deus ex Machina, until Last Jedi, when instead of things conveniently going right, everything inconveniently goes wrong to subvert our expectations.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

@@DrLipkin Disney Wars dowsnt exist, And if you say otherwise I wont believe you.

[@DrLipkin]

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 Sad but true. Can we get the Russos to do a Star Wars trilogy?

[@nightbreed9305]

When E;R is actually on a stream.

[@TrajGreekFire]

Jay's days are gone, now E;R is official 4th member

[@guitarded55]

As soon as he gets more comfortable, hell yeah I'm up for some more n-words

[@dusky5535]

Jay is the owner though, it will be decided by trial by combat for the position of leade;r.

[@onnixcarmichele3911]

I don’t like Jay anyway. I’d much prefer AppaBend or E;R be the new regular.

[@tannerlawley8435]

Jay Are You suck

[@abracelin]

If they wanted to nerf Thor they should’ve let him do the snap and have him dealing with similar injuries as hulk and that could’ve accounted for his poor performance vs thanos

[@maxoro4370]

they also need to nerf hulk.

[@zedbee2736]

Max Oro They did, he’s got Banner’s mind, who’s by no means a pacifist, has also probably not been in a serious fight in his life.

[@SteveSmith-ty8ko]

Zed Bee Did they ruin Hulk so then they wouldn’t have to deal with the dichotomy between Hulk and Banner. They just say, “oh yeah offscreen Hulk and Banner became one. Now he’s the incredible Bulk.”

[@gottesurteil3201]

Did you guys know Korra is better than Aang because she doesn't rely on others, especially her animal companion, and her villains have the pretense of moral gray instead of genuine intimidation like what Ozai had? She doesn't even need the Avatar state, screw the supporting cast!

[@0xlamon]

She also fuck-up half of the world and then tries to explain to people, that it's for their best. Because she prefers biopunk over dieselpunk, I guess.

[@jd2792]

sure excpet the kite of doom incarnate but he dosen't matter

[@mariokarter13]

Aang was the link between the human and spiritual worlds, but Korra is a god. Checkmate atheists.

[@spuart3308]

all of Korra’s villains are absolutely facetious and retarded. Amon doesn’t want equality, he’s just pissy about being abused as a child and blames Bending as a whole. Unalaq doesn’t want harmony with the spirits he just wants power. Zaheer is the only villain that unironically believes what he preaches but his philosophy of absolute anarchy is so monumentally retarded that it could only be believed by edgy Redditors or 14 year old Minecraft stans. By season 4 the writers ran out of ideologies to slander so they turn to good ole fascism, just like with Ozai. Except Kuvira could never be as intimidating as Ozai and she falls flat on her face because the writers didn’t want to go the distance to show the horrors of fascism in TLoK.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

So for the Pim partical and Thanos's ship thing, What you have to remember is that the machine is still essentially a shrinking machine, that shrinks Ant Man and the team into a layer of space time.. Whatever it was called. So it makes sense to me (for what that is worth) that the ship basically 'grew" out of the machine.

[@alikahubbert52]

That is what I understood too.

[@fimbulwinter1780]

Except nebula only had one canister of pym particles for herself. There's no way the ship should have been able to come back as well. Endgame was shit.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

@@fimbulwinter1780 Well we don't know if the machine allowed for targeted time travel nonsense. But I was still refering to how the ship came through the shrinking/time travel machine, not how Nebula managed to find them and ring them through it.

[@Emobullymaguire]

@@fimbulwinter1780 except your argument is shot since Ebony Maw reproduced those particles

[@dmidkif]

In retrospect, this film perfectly encapsulates the arc of the MCU. Both beautifully playing tribute to the mastery of the first three phases, plus signaling the disaster to come that was Phase 4. Tony’s death was the perfect ending to the Infinity Saga, and the Lady Avenger hero shot basically encapsulated where the MCU was about to go for the next 4+ years

[@thedishonoredamerican129]

That was a fun one lads. Slice and dice.

[@mathers000]

brothers

[@mackenziethebestbunny2776]

Hell yeah, brother!

[@aTalkingKoala8294]

Fuck yeah, brother!

[@MrNinjaBurger]

So I could be wrong but in regards to the gauntlet wasn't the fact that Thanos had it made specifically the way he did so that it would protect him from the stones backlash? That's why the 1st snap just trashes the gauntlet but the 2nd almost kills him. So in theory anyone could snap with any gauntlet/glove but they'd not have the protection from the specifically made one.

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

For the MCU version, yes, you're correct. The gauntlet was indeed specifically forged to allow its wearer to use the power of the Infinity Stones safely.

[@MrNinjaBurger]

@@insulttothehumanrace3807 Ah right I was responding to Mauler saying he didn't get it during the video but thank you for clarifying I wasn't imaging things.

[@RobertMorgan]

In the source material version, the Gauntlet had no such limitations. In fact, The Snap in that story is a throw away line, Thanos kills all the heroes easily and is just like "Oh yeah, I almost forgot I was going to kill half the universe to impress Lady Death, snap, ok That's done, now back to what we were doing". It actually makes the moment even more horrible because he does it so cavalierly, and that it's all just to impress a girl that's not even into Thanos in the first place. I think the Thanos/Deadpool/Lady Death love triangle storyline would have been far better than the completely made up motivations and plot of Infinity War/Endgame.

[@mrrm5456]

so sad yet so nice to see Anikan's force ghost at the end. 10/10 really good job haters gonna hate

[@PurpleColonel]

You joke about it but that's my greatest fear for episode 9

[@zachgilbert3815]

@PurpleColonel Me too. I really liked Hayden Christensen's Anakin (dialogue he was given aside) in the Prequels, I really hope they keep him out of this Disney SHIT.

[@Сайтамен]

​@@zachgilbert3815Well, he had a voice cameo... and then a role in Kenobi show... and now in Ahsoka.

[@clapmatic]

Around 1:17:50ish you're talking about how they should have set-up time travel before, and thinking back to Ant-man and the Wasp I was thinking "they did, with all the adventures into the mircoverse," then I remembered. Scott says its was 5 years on earth when he was down there, but it was only 10 minutes for him, but Janet aged in real time down there to be as old as her husband when they rescued her. So yeah, the time travel they used is just a complete ruleless asspull

[@GiovanniPrince]

They do actually set it up in the Ant-man and Wasp. Pym explains that time in the Quantum Realm isn't a constant, in some places it moves slowly, in some it moves faster, some places have an normal rate and as you find out in the first movie it doesn't move at all in some places. That was why they needed to map out a path through the realm. Hell, it even goes reverse in places, which allows them to "time-travel." So, it is set up, it's just in the movies people don't seem to like.

[@randomperson-up5vt]

Half baked time travel was not a good idea to include into the series. That's just my thoughts on it.

[@bearistotle2820]

Yeah, now every movie needs to take this into account. Also, how is old man captain America in their timeline? Does this mean he made out with his grand-daughter in civil war?

[@marcus8101]

Think its a completely new timeline to allow for the x men and fantastic 4 to be integrated into the new universe

[@bearistotle2820]

Marcus In the movie, they establish that A. Warping back in time and changing things creates a new timeline B. In order to avoid this, we must warp back to the time travel platform when we return to this timeline. C. Therefore, we cannot kill baby Thanos. However, old man Captain America is just chilling on the bench, so he went back in time in their timeline and changed things. So can they, or can they not kill baby Thanos?

[@googlestolemywallet2729]

@@bearistotle2820 Joe Russo tweeted that Cap loved to old age with Peggy in another timeline and then jumped back to the original one late in his life. Why they didn't just have him come back to the pad as an old man is beyond me. It's such a completely avoidable plot hole.

[@afriendinthevoid6522]

Google Stole My Wallet They could’ve had a small moment where they thought they messed up the time jump like with Ant-Man earlier in the film. They probably wanted the sad, serious moment with an old man on a bench. Works emotionally but as stated, avoidable confusion with the scene.

[@MenosGrande00]

So many missed opportunities and questionable choices made in this movie! One that stood out to me is when Thor was shown all throughout his pre-schlub time, he seemed so determined, angry and withdrawn. And when he took off Thanos' head without a second thought in cold fury and simply walked away with the screen slowly blurring on him, I thought it was setting up a much more vengeful and heartless Thor! I thought he was going to have an arc where we found out he was using his fury and ruthlessness to mask his overwhelming feeling of having failed everyone, being that he was so close to killing Thanos but instead chose to torture and gloat! I was so ready for that! And then we got "mother's basement, NEET Thor. smh And that's just him! There's so much more that didn't sit right...

[@megashark1013]

What more vengeance did Thor have to dish out? How would vengeful Thor work with no one to take revenge upon? Everyone Thor loved has died, and he already had all the revenge he could take, and it left him empty. He already killed Thanos. He thought he had nothing else to lose, but he lost more nonetheless. With Thanos dead, there was nothing more to do in his life. What else is there for him to do? What new meaning is there for him that he would have to stay in shape, to keep fighting for? Nothing. It makes perfect sense for him to fall apart, to fall to drinking, to go out of shape, because there's nothing to stop him from doing otherwise. Fat Thor made perfect sense, and he was damn hilarious. You may not like it, but you can't have exactly the kind of Thor that you want.

[@MenosGrande00]

@@megashark1013 I understand that everyone Thor has loved is dead, and that's why I thought he would be much more angry and unrelenting. Think about how Hawkeye was portrayed the first time we see him in action (which by the way, I was also annoyed at.) I imagined Thor to be much more brutal, to almost overcompensate for how he failed to save everyone the first time. And all that rage would not be out of righteousness, but as a cover for how he feels he's a failure for having dropped the ball at the most crucial moment. In a similar way how he had to convince Hulk to work with him, and befriend him all over again, we could now have this mellow Hulk trying to return the favor in getting an angry and stubborn Thor to correct his path and move on from what happened. Maybe even with the help of Rocket, who not only has some brief but insightful history with Thor, but could also play the blunt and straightforward delivery guy to Banner's new emotional and thoughtful delivery.

[@megashark1013]

@@MenosGrande00 Alright, that's fair. That actually sounds like a cool idea. But I don't feel like Thor would seek vengeance on random people not involved in the deaths of his friends and family like Hawkeye. I think he would just accept there was no one left to blame for everything after killing Thanos, and try to overcome his grief with a false sense of humour and slobbish decadence. It's more in line with his comedic persona to cover up his feelings of loss and betrayal like in Thor: Ragnarok. Thanos was a target for Thor to bring his rage down upon, but after killing Thanos, the Thor we know wouldn't continue a pointless destructive spree simply to hide his grief, and take out his anger. He's not that kind of person. He's always been the tragic, shattered warrior trying to hide his loss with jokes and messing around rather than Fury and chaos. Plus, the guy turning into a brutal, rage filled antihero after he loses his loved ones is already overdone. Your idea is a good one, but I felt like the direction they went in was a breath of fresh air.

[@nickdahl203]

@@MenosGrande00 ''I understand that everyone Thor has loved is dead, and that's why I thought he would be much more angry and unrelenting.'' To who? Thanos? He killed Thanos. Who else after that? Half of the major threats in the universe just poofed out of existence. ''I imagined Thor to be much more brutal, to almost overcompensate for how he failed to save everyone the first time.'' Again, brutal to whom? Thanos? He killed Thanos by cutting off his hand, and then his head, which is what he should have done the first time around. That's the overcompensation. It was hollow, useless, brutal, and left him with a void he tried to fill with alcohol, cheetos, and Fortnite. ''In a similar way how he had to convince Hulk to work with him, and befriend him all over again, we could now have this mellow Hulk trying to return the favor in getting an angry and stubborn Thor to correct his path and move on from what happened.'' Is that not what happened? Hulk personally showed up to Thor's house to tell him he has a second chance. ''Maybe even with the help of Rocket, who not only has some brief but insightful history with Thor, but could also play the blunt and straightforward delivery guy to Banner's new emotional and thoughtful delivery.'' You mean like when Rocket pimp-slapped Thor to get him to stop being all weepy over his tragic past?

[@MenosGrande00]

It seems I may have been unclear the first time around, please allow me to explain. For starters, there is absolutely no indicator that half of the major threats have been erased. Thanos said that the great genocide would be impartial and fair to rich and poor alike, that means it would be as random as the most random number generator. It doesn't mean half the good and half the bad. Crime still exists, criminals still exist, and it wouldn't be ridiculous to imagine that some big players may have been left untouched. Now, I never said that Thor's rage would have a target. The way I imagined him would have been like an angry dog snapping at anyone that would bring a hand near. I thought that's what we were headed towards, and was even more pushed in that direction when Hulk and Rocket were warned about seeing Thor. I honestly took the delivery of the villager to be one of worry and maybe even fear, not shame or disappointment. Plus, wouldn't it make sense that they might want Thor's friends and battle companions to try and talk some sense into him instead of warning them away? Not gonna lie, I was expecting an ax to imbedd itself into the door after the knock, especially with the camera angle chosen for that scene. I do agree that Hulk and Rocket helped Thor in this movie in the way you described, by the way. However, at this point, we're talking about two drastically different characters, and I'm saying that I would have liked to see how they would deal with a much more merciless god of thunder. Hell, he could have even agreed with the Thanos baby murder plan to show further how much more willing he is to spill blood at the first opportunity, no matter the target.

[@JohnCenaWarriorPrincess]

Sharon Carter is Peggy Carter's niece. Not her daughter. No relation to Cap at all. #notbloodrelated

[@SteveSmith-ty8ko]

Ahahahaaaaa 😎

[@endrelad1306]

Time travel is a massive -Bilbo Baggins Blessed be our massive family :D -Me

[@HimothyHimsworthy]

Nice quote

[@barzalonerboyy]

One thing I know: my girl ain’t no Hobbit.

[@makebritaingreatagain2613]

3:48:00 E;R starts talking here.

[@dragonknightleader1]

@1:22 As a person who read Ender's Game, the movie was nutless.

[@fearlessleader343]

I would call it worse then nutless

[@childhoodisthatyou9869]

That could be an amazing movie franchise if they did the books right.

[@GoblinKnightLeo]

The filmmakers wanted to go full-on antiwar with the story - which isn't what the story is about.

[@jaypeterman9721]

The book is good. The movie is not. And Harrison Ford could not save it... as if he wanted to.

[@dragonknightleader1]

@@GoblinKnightLeo A lot of the problems with the movie comes from age casting. Since they casted 16-18 year-olds to play 12 year olds, you never get the creepy sense of... hmmm... let's say Tiger Mom the Battle School is supposed to provide. We send teenage boys to bootcamps to fix their anti-social tendencies, so we as the audience go, "whatever." HOWEVER, by casting 8-10 year olds, you get 8-10 year old acting. Which is why I hold that animated films are better than live action. Casting has a bigger talent pool to draw from. Mona Marshall would have fucking nailed the role of Ender, but because she's an adult woman, she can't perform in a live-action version of this movie. Then you get the toned-down violence in this movie, like the fight with Bonzo. In the book, he gets kicked in the nuts and headbutted in the nose to death, and it's clear that he did die from it. In the movie, he slipped on the floor and hit his head. "Help! I've fallen and can't get up!" Harrison Ford is horribly miscast and I don't understand why people keep casting him in anything that's not Indiana Jones or Star Wars. He DGAF. I would have gone with a much cheaper actor like Richard Dean Anderson. Even fat McGuyver would have worked in this movie because Graff gains weight from the stress of his job and the horrors he inflicts on Ender. Much like Captain Marvel, Ender's Game deserves an Unbridled Meh, but I'll settle for an EFAP movie of it.

[@mcsatans5120]

Time travel is just a cursed subject for movies.

[@dommydench4693]

Like Back To The Future? Yeah that film was horrible because of Time Travel.

[@mcsatans5120]

@@dommydench4693 exceptions that prove the rule, and I'll qualify the statement with "modern", happy?

[@dommydench4693]

@@mcsatans5120 Well considering how successive Avengers: Endgame is critically, finacially and with the general public you seem to be in a very microscopic group.

[@mcsatans5120]

@@dommydench4693 Not really, I like Endgame and went to see it in theaters but the time travel is the weakest part.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Except back to the future had one of the worst time travel story. So clearly it's not about the time travel itself.

[@lokenontherange]

It's less time travel and more spatial travel in Endgame. The real issue with it being spatial travel is that Captain America wouldn't be able to get back into their universe without being able to use 'time travel' from the universe he visits. It also makes no sense in terms of physics, but oh well. It is time travel after all. In regards to Harry Potter though that form of time travel is dealt with via predestination, which means there's no real concept of free will in that universe. In regards to Hulk, his point is that time travel is conceptionally impossible but that since it's possible to travel through time then something else must be going on. In essence, he's making the case that what they are talking about is not time travel. It's more like interdimensional spatial travel between semi-parallel universes. So what you have at the end of Endgame is plots in two major worlds. There's the 'Thanos Timeline" where Thanos destroys the world and which we're familiar with, and then there's the timeline where Thanos goes to the timeline we're on and subsequently dies. Meaning there's an alternate timeline where Thanos isn't going to be anymore, and it's from that timeline where our new Gamora comes from. Everything kind of works plot wise EXCEPT when Captain America goes onto another worldline and somehow is able to get back onto the Thanos Timeline in orders to meet with Bucky and Falcon. That is a mess and I have no idea how they plan to square that circle, unless they want to start dealing with the issues of having interdimensional travel that isn't initiated from what we'd see as the primary worldline. Though that does open options for new stories like alternate heroes/villains coming into the main universe from other universes, which we saw a bit of in Endgame but which gets real problematic when something like a cranky villain faction starts trying to conquer all of the universes. In short: the infinite worlds problem is a rather big issue. Also in regards to real life time travel: You can slow down time by increasing the effect of gravity or hanging about near a massive gravity field like a black hole, since the passage of time is an effect of particle attraction. You could speed it up by hanging about around something like a white hole (assuming one could actually stabilise) or hanging about in a region of space with less in it. Space isn't as empty as most people thing it is and there is some friction in space but it's so minimal we can barely even register it, like most physics it's complicated but to simplify it: if space was empty then time wouldn't pass the way we perceive it does on Earth in space. Since time does pass in the same way, then the gravity fields are still in flux and that means there's something there even if we can't quite figure out what that is. That something is also the reason why light has a top speed. Anti-matter may also work to speed time up, but have fun trying to get that to work since you'd need to suspend it in either a gravity field or a magnetic fied to get it to stabilise enough for any usage. You can change your perception of the passage of time quite easily though, all we need to do is induce a deep enough sleep to lessen your ability or put you under stress to increase your efficiency when it comes to perceiving the flow of time. But in terms of going backwards in time... yeah not likely to work irl. You're even less likely to be able to accelerate or reverse time's effect on an individual, though you might be able to decelerate it by dropping them into a black hole. Survival is kind of unlikely though.

[@gorantharon]

The Capatin going back thing works actually too, because how can you tell that we aren't on the time line where he did it already? Just because he never showed up prominently before doesn't mean he wasn't there. Endgame is just set on the time line where Steve traveled back, and that works because he's going back along a time line where everything happened as we saw it.

[@alfredvickers4054]

1:40:32 Rags mentions how the movies set up that basically the only family Black Widow has is the Avengers. Well, the Black Widow movie complicates things. It's apparently going to show that young Natasha lived as a fake family with other sketchy Russian people posing as an American family, and they grew close over the years so that in the present day of the movie (between Civil War and Infinity War) she visits them and they agree to help her with whatever's going on. If she had this other family besides the Avengers, why did she never mention them or visit them before? It kind of undermines Black Widow being alone in the world until Hawkeye became her close friend and then they joined the Avengers together. That's the problem with prequels, interquels, and retroactively establishing something as always being there (like shoehorning Captain Marvel into the timeline, or WandaVision saying that SWORD has been around for decades despite no previous movie or TV show hinting at its existence): it messes things up for previous stories. EDIT: It turns out they referenced SWORD in a scene from 2011's Thor that was ultimately deleted for some reason. If they had kept it, it would have helped SWORD feel less like it's coming out of nowhere.

[@jamescarr1265]

2020s MCU try not to ruin everything challenge lol

[@alfredvickers4054]

@@jamescarr1265 And they've been making it worse ever since my comment. When the Black Widow movie came out, it turned out the guy controlling the Black Widows had infiltrated the governments of the world for decades much like Hydra. Shang-Chi's father the Mandarin had another secret organization operating behind the scenes. How many secret organizations are there!? The Eternals have super powers & have been on earth for 1000s of years but never stepped in to help, not even when the whole world & even the whole universe were in danger. Loki reveals that there's yet another secret organization that works to stop time travel that creates new timelines & immediately destroys any alternate timelines that pop into existence but for some reason they just allowed the Avengers to do everything they did in Endgame. After Eternals there's a giant celestial sticking out of the earth, and in Moon Knight there's a major kaiju fight, but no one ever mentions these again. Doctor Strange 2 establishes the concept of the Incursion, where someone being in the wrong universe (i.e. not their own) can cause that universe to be destroyed, but as shown in No Way Home, 2 extra Spider-Men & a number of their villains doesn't seem to affect the MCU at all. Things are stretched beyond believability, and nothing makes sense anymore. And the decade's not even half over!

[@hassathunter2464]

Endgame; An unbridled EFAP

[@Drink4Exp]

Honestly, I thought Thor was depressed. I went through the same thing myself, never really recovered. Everything Thor did strike me as someone who was depressed; drinking, gaining weight, falling into a spiral of addiction (video games), and just generally slacking. I thought the jokes were a little cruel because he was actually in a depression. And to anyone who says "No he was making jokes and laughing!" well so was Robin Williams. Acting happy does not mean he IS happy.

[@MediumRareOpinions]

Arguably the character assassination is less of thor but other characters treating it like his depression is funny.

[@yor9783]

Sucks that only Dog and Skull on Wheels could show up for this episode

[@Krisozz22]

Best Ad break ever. 2:20:20. Mauler says " captain marvel is barely in it and I'm like..." and rambo appears on my screen firing a lmg. That made my day

[@CreationSGame01]

I run back to my phone every time I think E;R is about to say something. But no he just sighs 😅

[@Dja05]

Outside of the bullshitery that is bucky not being the next captain america for the sake of "muh diversity", why did nobody commented on the fact that litteraly all bucky did in both infinity war and endgame was shoot an M249... Something any army grunt can do... Great use of superpowers there...

[@violetvita4218]

Well to be fair, Falcon does take up the mantle in the comics so it's not completely out of left field.

[@heathenpride7931]

Violet Vita Bucky takes it as well, and before Falcon

[@violetvita4218]

@@heathenpride7931 True, but I don't think it's too big of a deal for Falcon to get it first. Plus, there was a male Captain Marvel before a female one, and nobody seemed to care that much when a female only Captain Marvel came out. Not that I'm defending Captain Marvel, because Brie Larson and the "character" they wrote is trash, but people like to pick and choose what to be mad about.

[@heathenpride7931]

Violet Vita I feel like people were too busy bitching about the obvious SJW push Marvel was trying to care about the original CM. M

[@fimbulwinter1780]

Falcon cap was dumb in the comics too.

[@roninmedic7661]

I'm way behind on my EFAP, and just getting to this. You may touch on it eventually, I'm only at about 2 hours in. I watched a chinese version (not illegally downloaded at all) while in a war zone, and with many other old soldiers. There were two moments that the entire room went silent in act 3. When Cap's comms picked up Falcon's "On your left." ...I have never been in a room full of grown ass A type personalities, with absolutely no shame in the tears. I mean, a couple of full on ugly cries. If there were a way for all of us in that room to go back in time, and bring a team mate back to life... the Russo's won lifelong fans with that single line of crackled dialogue. And, of course, most of us being dads, the way RDJ's acting when Tony sees Peter again, all of us in tears again. None of us gave a shit about Capt Agenda's yay women scene. In fact, one guy even coldly said, "Shouldve been Natasha."

[@Nastuf]

E;R sounds like he has peered into the abyss of humanity and seen horrors within

[@samuelerickson1815]

Finally able to see E;r in a live setting this was awesome!!

[@puggietaur]

It's interesting hearing how people speculated time travel worked in endgame. Now with Loki we know none of that was correct and it's just all terrible

[@jamesbasdeckis]

On the topic of Cap and Bucky talking: I don't actually think there was a 'talk'. When they said goodbye before Steve went back in time, the way Bucky talked to and looked at Steve, he obviously knew what he was about to do. But I think that's it, there was no previous conversation about it. Their friendship has grown to the point where they can basically tell what the other is thinking without them having to say it.

[@derigel7662]

thank god you have some sense

[@DJprofessorK]

I love to see first impressions compared to after fringys endgame video. Subjectivetisms definitely switch after a second watch. I feel some pride in thinking episode 7 and endgame weren’t good after watching them in the theater. I felt at home immediately here

[@hue_jazz59]

I was too young when TFA premiered . I didn't know how bad it was . By the time endgame came out, my eyes had been opened by black panther and captain marvel . I was the only one out of that friend group att that noticed how bad the movie was and I felt so alone and hurt . Until i found efap. I had to stop being friends w those ppl bc they were soooo unbased .

[@TheAdarkerglow]

I thought what Rag's was thinking, that the Thanos ship was orienting weapons on an opposing fleet, specifically the Nova Corps or the Ravager Ships, but it was just ol' Catpan Manvers.

[@deathsdoor07]

I thought the Nova Corps was wiped out when Thanos went for the power stone.

[@TheAdarkerglow]

@@deathsdoor07 That was some years prior. The potential for them to have partially repopulated and rebuilt is there. I'm not saying a huge fleet or anything, but some of their ships, some Ravager ships, more than a single person is all I'm suggesting. I do understand it'd take them time to get there, but was Carl just near Earth at the time and her Marvel-Senses went off? It's just as feasible someone else could arrive with her. It wasn't that horrible of a scene, except that I don't get why they'd orient all their weapons on a single, human sized target.

[@deathsdoor07]

@@TheAdarkerglow Because Marvel had to give her a "spectacular" scene.

[@HimothyHimsworthy]

deathsdoor07 Superman without the parts that make him super likable

[@kristiandimitrov7066]

Semantic Dragon i believe you mean captain WOmanvers I think it’s very important to know she is a waman

[@LukasJampen]

Wow you finally got E;R xD

[@godofall7624]

Lukas Jampen yeah, that bastard

[@Nick_Hammer]

E;R is so soft spoken and adorable. i wouldn't have guessed that.

[@NovasChannelOfficial]

I’m not hating I actually quite like this episode but I’m just giving a few takes. Updating as I go: He didn’t destroy the stones he reduced them to atoms so in theory they could come back in the future. Tony’s been working on it in the background as he talks about trying it again but he knows it probably won’t work again.( Could be wrong need to watch again). I agree with Thor he was my favorite avenger favorite marvel character ever. I get they did it in order to keep him around and continue his character they should have still made him a loser but chilled with the fatness and jokes. I’m not in any way defending the confusing rules of time travel I’m sure they will try to explain it more in the future. They are using the multiverse in their time travel theory. So they weren’t changing their timeline they were changing a different timeline. For example the scene with hulk and the sorcerer supreme. She said his timeline wouldn’t change but hers would transcend into darkness without the stone meaning they were messing up someone else’s world not their own world. It’s very confusing and hard to explain im not the best at explaining it but it’s a real world theory.

[@civcity1]

Arrow Nova On your first point, what do you think “reduced to atoms” mean? It usually means obliterated, destroyed

[@morelstrike]

@@civcity1 Only in practical sense, those stones were formed from atoms in the first place at the beginning of the universe. There is nothing stopping them from forming again in time or to be created because MCU was vague about if they were created or a natural "ore". Especially that there is entire universe of "resources" for them to form from. And when it comes to importance of those stones, we just lost the dials for "creator mode" in this universe, but it can run on it's own, probably.

[@mryellow6918]

If your as strong as hulk it's not hard to beat him, he has no fighting discipline. Strength doesn't mean shit if your against someone who can fight.

[@who23809]

But hulk does not have limited strenght

[@omis6610]

Of course Thanos is an asshole now. This Thanos literally just lost the battle of New York, learns that he ultimately succeeds, but those same guys who defeated in New York are now trying to undo the snap.

[@amanibob1416]

They didn't need to have him acting like an asshole, but oh yeah, him going all out and not giving a flying fu*k, nor allowing himself to take aby sh*t from anyone? In caracter, no doubt about it. Tanos threw a moon at a group fewer than a dozen people without any hesitation whatsoever, so him going fast and looking all: "sure, I'm here and I'mma waste your share of livable space. Wonder if I can just walk in your neighborhood and kill y'all? No prob, just watch me sucker!" That was literally too much Tanos to be weird. He sent the god of MISCHIEF to Earth alone and let's be frank, utterly unsupervised, exept for a couple of "Space-Skype-check-ups". He's been half-genociding the whole frickin galaxy with a "hands-on" approach for what could be, (depending on if it's the same thing as the comics), centuries, eons, or at least a few decades of slaughter... Yo he ain't got sh*t to do beside that so he'll be patient with Murphy's law, (anything that can happen and should come to pass, will happen eventually), but if he's wrong and he can be both defeated and MADE WORTHLESS, then, he'll do that right away, no more "nice" guy. His mindset in Infinity War was on par with the idea of him being a thousand times better, stronger and more focused than anything he'd ever had the chance to meet or even hear about. Him in Endgame was just a different beast, a culminating force of habit, used and betrayed by the very idea of being supreme in the universe. He was the one being alone at the top, able to wreck the Hulk without breaking a sweat, (didn't need the power stone for that, so he was that strong by default), then, he saw/heard the news: "Tanos win then dies" and THEN, he learned that the hard truth was just about the very opposite direction: "the forces opposed to your very goal are going to win by default, if you don't have a way to remove any and all chance(s) that they might." There was no "?" in his head, just a matter of time and effort wasted. Tanos wasn't able to act with a pragmatic mindset because: A)he saw himself, decapitated. B) Time-travel was still an option after the Infinity Stones had been destroyed, removed as an option. C) He saw/heard the news that the very first threat against him was already partially responsible for taking some of the Stones from his own timeline, so both versions of himself had failed by default if nothing was done from his end. Tanos had his back against the wall and knew that he, (the future version of himself), had never lost sight of his goal and managed to "win" if only for a short-term/span of time, no matter what happened. He going all: "must go faster", was on point with the idea of being the one that couldn't win alone but still able to win if winning meant to be alone at the top once again. That plan was the only way for him to "think things through", to irationally go for a "tactical" way of thinking. His lines of thinking went as far as follow: 1) "I have to get this over with." 2) "There is one planet, (Earth), that is too much for "not me" to handle, but I have to get this over with, so let's just go "all in". 3)"Well, if I can die and did get killed by those guys, well, you know what? I'mma go fu*k your own plan sideways... See how you feel after that, punks!" Finally, he was fine with "half" and if it's "just that simple", erasing one universe and redoing it is a very linear plan. Not just simple, but also smart as a "one-time" option. It's insane, but then again his plan already was insane, both for it being ridiculously illogical and also, for all the "moraly wrong" parts in it. His new plan was just as close to the "good guys" own plan as he could've made it. He was going first with a snap and thus removing anything/ anyone else except for him, then bringing some of it back. The tweak was that he'd bring it all back without the actuall memories of anything else being present to create a risk, so to avoid any further damage, any chance of a person, anything, or anyone, that could think of what was gone from existence. No cause for concern, no one else to be "making problems" for anyone. He was worse than "future Tanos", but from his perspective, he wasn't different in any way. He didn't know what was different from the other version and the version he was? He lended the frickin scepter containing the Mind Stone as a tool and offered a planet, ( Earth), to Loki in exchange for helping him get another ONE STONE!!! After doing stuff like that for so long, Tanos doing away with not some, but ALL POSSIBLE SUFFERING with what? Maybe one out of three, maybe four alterations he'd have to do? He wasn't able to think of it as a "bad" choice and le me make sure it's perfectly clear and logically sound: " Tanos was fine with leaving half the universe to live forever on, remembering that which was lost/killed/erased, because he was crazy enough to think they'd "change their ways", either because they'd fear his wrath or by simply being fewer than before but with the same amount of time and resources to get by with from then and there, until the end of the universe." His first plan was stupid enough, but going from that one to just: "erase everything and everyone else but me, then make some crude adjustments and bring it all back together after removing any knowledge of the changes being made"... That was just about the same level of insane, "but better-er", because he'd bring the risk down to zero percent. The way it was shown in the movie wasn't perfect, but I'm fine with the Mad Titan being a bit more Mad Titan than before... Guess I had to put it out there. isn't a positiv

[@RandomizedCTRL]

@@amanibob1416 I'm starting to think the wrong guys won after reading your post.

[@amanibob1416]

@Zmir Moore Cuz I wrote the name of the guy maybe ten times in me life and don't have to bother so much when everyone would know either ways, so incorrectly every time makes as much sense as vice-versa, or sometimes with an h, then also sometimes without said letter..? Basic case of: "eh, whatever, they'll get it".

[@CSN1017]

Most of my favorite creators in one place. Good to see E;R and hope Wolf comes back when hes ready.

[@ericenstrom8691]

Isn't immortality a thing now since Ant-Man still had his memory after changing age, so you could continually reuse the quantum realm machine to get immortality, at least in terms of age?

[@benjaminlennox4249]

I think someone says that if you mess with time itll mess back, so although you could do that, there could be consequences

[@ericenstrom8691]

@@benjaminlennox4249didn't seem like it in th movie but I get your point

[@HawerTipeZero]

E;R !!!! For 7 hours=? HYPE

[@zachgilbert3815]

With all of 17 minutes of "screen" time........ :(

[@mahoutsuguy863]

This is such a weird one to go back to knowing how much they dropped the ball following endgame and even how the crew originally felt. I still wish they saved the "i could do this all day for when cap was ready to stand down Thanos and not for a joke

[@WL1264]

That would be cringe

[@mahoutsuguy863]

@@WL1264 as opposed to how they actually used it in Endgame and then "America's ass" right after. Okay sure

[@WL1264]

​@@mahoutsuguy863yes that's better than saying it to thanos

[@mahoutsuguy863]

@@WL1264 yeah, keep thinking that

[@WL1264]

@@mahoutsuguy863 bruh if cap said I could do this all day to thanos at that moment it would've been cringe.

[@Kernwadi]

“I've been used as an object, and it's fucking amazing.” -Rags

[@-MrFozzy-]

Well……i can certainly see why E;R was in such high demand for EFAP…………………..charismatic, high energy, captivating and really brought a lot to the discussion……………….. Ah maaaan, watching this well after Thor 4 came out…..their excitement over Asgaurdians of the galaxy……misplaced and such a letdown in the end…Marvel/Disney MUST have know just HOW MUCH a majority of the Fanbase were so excited for it, and they go and throw a 5 minute montage essentially….what a massive waste of a golden opportunity. Alsoooooo….sorry Rag’s….Tony’s last word was ‘pepper’……Ironmans last words were ‘I am ironman’. Tony’s was ‘Pepper’

[@Volthoom]

Well, if this movie's got one positive, it's getting me to try out writing again. I am now starting to work on a fanfic based on Scott Lang getting erased along with everyone else, and no time-travel and snap-reversal ever happening. In which Morgan Stark grows up in a slowly dying world with the population that completely gave up on life, and has to take matters into her own hands to make them _actually_ move on and create something new from the ruins of the old world. I'm actually pumped to try this out, should be an interesting "what if" variable.

[@Volthoom]

@@alexandergreene461 Nothing like coming back to a month-old video and finding out that youtube didn't notify you about a response to your comment. Wonderful. Ehh, i'd probably be anxious about putting my work online, the things that i write are mostly read by my circle of friends :D But hey, first time for everything, so i suppose we'll see.

[@thejonbrownshow8470]

Sounds promising for the tv show 😜 maybe if you write a fan letter with a concept, it could work?

[@Rannos22]

There aren't alternative timelines or universes There's one timeline and universe The Ancient One's point was that if the stones aren't returned to when they were taken then the timeline would fracture into multiple timelines and chaos

[@matthewmuir8884]

Most inconsistent character in Episode 9: The Force.

[@jays8287]

The whole Bucky Captain America thing is actually explained in Infinity War. When they were preparing for battle, Black Panther calls bucky the White Wolf. In the comics, the White Wolf was an outsider who came to adopt Wakanda as his home and fight for it alongside black panther. So it does make some sense that the shield is past to Falcon as they have set up Bucky as the White Wolf.

[@JohnSmith-op3qj]

Now that's a cool nugget

[@SPTX.]

Still not gonna see a movie with what's his face as captain america.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Bucky for Next Black Panther Lol

[@Dieci-9]

About Thanos, I agree that a change to his character could happen but, given how he behaves in IW, I believe that him going assholish like "I'm going to take pleasure in destroying this planet" is not believable. I'd be more inclined he'd be more in a state of like "These guys must be stopped at all costs for the sake of the universe" and during the fight saying lines like "What you're doing is stupid\I AM Inevitable" and at the end as he disappears say something along the lines of "With time, you'll learn that I was right. You'll learn that what I tried to do was necessary". Instead, he became almost one-dimensionally evil in this sequel. And "Almost" just because he was already set up to be deeper than that in IW.

[@CyberBolt21]

3:48:00 E;R Aangatar part

[@its1899]

About the time thing in america and africa, I looked it up and theres an 8 hour difference between where hawkeyes farm is (iowa) and where wakanda is, which is around next to Kenya. So its entirely possible for it to be 6-7 pm in wakanda and 10-11 am in iowa

[@666lupine666]

I propose a new villain called *Yeah-noes* (an amalgamation of the avengers) who goes from reality to reality doubling the population of the universe. the result is pretty much as seen in the movie "us"

[@DrewTheDuke]

When I saw the movie, a couple people outright Boo-ed at the Star Wars trailer. That made me laugh. The audience had a fit of cheering or laughing out loud for almost anything. However, not a peep when Cap Marvel was on screen. Not when she does her heroic entrance at the end, not when she saves Tony/Nebula. Only one person next to me did a little "Yeah!" when she started fighting Thanos. Buuuut she also was a teenage girl who was commenting on almost everything. There were more cheers for Pepper Pots. Pepper. Pots. **I think it was stupid that she was fighting in a suit, but dang if my nerd heart didn't love it anyways** I had a little flashback to Rey getting her triple kill in TLJ when Marvel came flying in at the end. Same sudden savior of people getting bombarded on the ground, doing something amazing with the greatest of ease. Same kind of reaction from the people on the ground, with people looking up and cheering. Between that and Thor just saying "i like this one", the movie wanted you to like and cheer for her. But the audience just didn't care.

[@Wuoffan1]

*Spoilers* My biggest problem with this movie was how it handled Thor. It gave me serious TLJ vibes to see them throw away his development from Ragnarok and Infinity War for a series of fat jokes. I don't buy that he would just give up because he "lost everything" like many fans are saying. Thor already "lost everything" by the beginning of Infinity War. He lost his mother, his father, his brother, his friends, his girlfriend, his hammer, his home, half his people, and he was left out in space to die by Thanos. Was he grieving after all that? Absolutely. But did he give up? No. He almost immediately went to Nidavellir, after being rescued by the Guardians, to create a new weapon. And when asked by Rocket if he's still up to fight after going through all that he laughs his way through his pain saying, "Absolutely... rage, vengeance, anger, loss, regret, they're all tremendous motivators," and that Thanos is in trouble because he has "never fought me twice." And when Rocket asks what if he's wrong about himself, Thor says, "Well, if I'm wrong... what more could I lose?" Thor has already hit rock bottom in his mind by this point and yet he didn't stop for a moment to rest (let alone 5 years). What does this tell us about Thor? He doesn't give up. And when creating Stormbreaker he was willing to nearly die, taking the full force of a star, just for the chance that it would help him in the fight against Thanos. Even after failing to stop the Snap, Thor still had half his people to look after, lead, and console after they arrived on Earth, as he was now their King. By Endgame it looks like he's done none of that, he just completely gave up, letting himself become an obese recluse and playing Fortnite for 5 years. I don't buy it.

[@aredblip1315]

Same. I kept wondering how such an impossibly optimistic character would become so utterly nihilistic even though he overcame much worse losses in the previous 2 films. Another great line from Ragnarok, "I choose to run toward my problems, and not away from them, because that's what heroes do."

[@jamescarr1265]

*IT GOT WORSE*