EFAP #78 - RE: "Why I loved Rise of Skywalker" - "It made me appreciate TLJ more" w/ WW, JLB and Jay

[@headmetwall]

Timestamps For Intellecutals: 0:00 - Philosophy of Reproduction Systems & Corona 2:33 - Intro to Guests (Star Wars Defined) 7:24 - Twitter Kind /EFAP Movies 9:45 - Metal's John Wick Video was Claimed - Premiere Version on his Streaming Channel! 14:25 - >Pledged's Animated Meme 16:35 - The other Weekend Worrior(Chicken Sacrifices) First Video: 20:33 - Intro (Short) 21:16 - Video Start/ Darth Mall's Criticism 33:49 - HUVIAN Production Values (OH BABY) /Video end Second Video: 39:45 - Intro /Wearing A mask 41:08 - Video Start /Tiny Detail Oriented 49:58 - >But how did it make you feel? 1:00:46 - Evander & EFAPs Rap Name 1:03:53 - >Next Batwoman (Editor) News 1:06:46 - 'Emotional' & ‘Detail’ Oriented, Distilled Fonts 1:17:19 - Soulless Safe Stories 1:26:18 - Callbacks ‘Cool!’, The Spirit of Star Wars 1:41:05 - They said no, but they did (Distinctive) 1:43:58 < -AT-AT Chat Copyright Strike 1:48:42 - What SW Could be without pressure. 1:56:56 - >Alt. SW Sequel Art & Cheese Lady 2:00:48 - Love of The changed Past 2:04:10 - >Self Aware Cringe *Hulk Dab* (Also, Ugly does not make Noise) 2:08:04 - >*Bleep* Damn 2:09:21 - >An Assumed Longman(Comment From First Video) - They Know better, it was their vision (Archery is Dabbing) 2:20:31 - >Hulk Dabs through the pain 2:22:51 - Characters can be whoever they want 2:31:51 - Taking Ownership of Cringe 2:42:07 - Take a Ride on: [It is] What it is 2:48:48 - /End of Video - Final Thoughts Memes & Art: 2:50:50 - >Spider Jay (Can he see LoTR?) /Meowler /Bobs Choice - Apex Homo /Fem Jay /MEDIC & more goodisms 3:21:54 - >Halloween vs Christmas: The Battle Continues - Kick Jay /LoTR EFAP Movies is Amazing 3:25:24 - >EFAP Mandalorian Part 2 (Tentatively) Next Week Third Video: 3:27:02 - Intro 3:28:34 - Video Start /Tweet Quotes 3:30:19 - >Electrolemon /Liking Things, A different time 3:42:18 - Star Wars Defined /Emotional Connections 3:48:14 - What is Art /Feels Trap (AA Meeting) 3:56:41 - Dissonance Bias Slapping 3:58:35 - >An Intellecutal Approach To FIlm 4:07:07 - Respect the Humanity you Pathetic Twitter Weasels 4:15:00 - Sad Piano /PERSPECTIVE Rey Journey Issues 4:25:14 - The Legends (Kick Jay, One reason here) 4:28:55 - The Face of a OldMan Hero 4:37:00 - >Memes: Jar Jar's Fate /Electromon Evolution 4:42:23 - Luke Hecking, VR Gamer 4:46:34 - The RoS Twitter Wars: A Survivors Account 4:51:30 - >Meme: JLong Likes Kylo Ren? - Morally Apprehensable 4:59:44 - Marvel Mcguffin /Collecting Plot 5:10:33 - A Changed Perspective No One Had 5:18:49 - >Jay Kicked, Has a New podcast: aahhh - (Stay Safe Jay.) - Meme: Piano keeps playing 5:22:11 - Relevant clips! /Rey Journey Details? What Details? 5:31:15 - A new flaw found /What Rey Believed, Graphed, Unspoken 5:43:17 - Dyad Requirements: Sheer Will, Metaphysical Roots 5:50:09 - It All Makes Sense (no it doesn't) 5:54:57 - Video End /Poor Piano - Final Thoughts 5:57:10 - >Weekend Warrior Leaves 6:02:40 - Superchats Start (Timestamps in the comments) (Thanks Oren Albert Meisel) Snips: 40:02 - Simp for Kylo Ren 1:23:00 - Breast Pockets 1:36:42 - No Jay, watch LoTR 2:34:44 - New End Credits

[@Emperor_Toxatine]

You do The Don's work. Bless you 🦏🥛

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

Slide and Dice.

[@austin9568AuraMasterDX]

Blessed Wallhead

[@bedoniyt]

O my gawwwwddd. Already? Vids been up for 5 mins

[@brasteen1]

May the Don be with you. You massive.

[@NickPoeschek]

The realization that guy misspelled “intellectual” made me laugh so hard my sides hurt.

[@theblacknothing]

Or him using all the wrong words like calling Kylo Ren the "Prodigy" of Darth Vader when he meant, "Progeny"

[@talunable]

@Shirane No Kappa really? I'm so excited to see this intellecutal as a guest. Hope it's true.

[@talunable]

@Shirane No Kappa thanks, looking forward to it. Have two episodes to watch before it.

[@talunable]

@Shirane No Kappa yes, it's 81. I've noticed his intellecutal icon with brains in the thumbnail.

[@mrshmuga9]

“I don’t think creators should be hamstrung with what came before” But... you’re making the middle movie of a planned trilogy... of an existing franchise. If you didn’t want the responsibility then don’t take the job.

[@mpw26]

"Its only a sequel if you interpret it that way" Bington Revidias

[@SoftisNelaris]

Just make it a reboot in a different timeline/dimension like Marvel and DC writers do.

[@FuddlyDud]

@mrshmuga9 Imagine if the LOTR trilogy followed this strat... Bringing up ANY other series of films exposes just how wrong Rian and Greedo are.

[@supershadey09]

Well, they planned to make a trilogy. That's about the only way the word "planned" could be applied to the ST

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

🐖➿

[@thereviewersblock7459]

“Joker isn’t about The Joker, it is actually about this guy, this butler guy.. I... I don’t know... is this... is this supposed to be Alfred?”- The Intellecutal

[@razkable]

i want less of this and more of this...meanwhile last jedi resets at the end and is at basically the same spot all star wars films end at...and this is star wars so its going to end the way you think rey beats the evil guy somehow...its not going to subvert that no matter whose directing it...because that kind of story doesn't sell merch to kids or bring in the regular crowd...if rey died at the end and kylo saved the day and became good no one would watch it so they are handcuffed to making money and doing the obvious at the end anyways so no matter how we get there this franchise is stuck in place anyways which is why these films were not needed in the first place and were made for money knowing people will pay to see it so they could get their money back for buying it from lucas

[@chadam917]

"It is what it is" is what my grandfather said to me after his dog died and I've never seen the man in more pain.

[@djdeadbeat4380]

That’s very sad. I don’t think “It is what it is” should be used in a positive context like how HelloGreedo uses it. It literally means “well we don’t like how this crappy thing happened, but we have to deal with it anyway. Life goes on.”

[@noble20xx56]

@@djdeadbeat4380 Exactly

[@death3678]

DJ Deadbeat I think tacos might taste good with dog meat

[@An_Actual_Rat]

​@@death3678 That's just, like, your subjective opinion.

[@death3678]

White Knight Indeed

[@threshermaw6042]

Holdo Maneuver = universe breaking. There's a reason why people don't like it. Basically it's "Well why didn't they use this against the 1st death star? 1 fighter/ship as opposed to the several pilots and ships lost? Same thing with the 2nd, or how about Starkiller? There's a reason you don't introduce something so game changing in the late game.

[@crossbones116]

Or at least give a reason why it can't be done again, and not just some nebulous 'it's a one in a million' throwaway line. Like if they said it was an experimental hyperdrive designed by an absolute lunatic who never wrote the plans down... it's wanky but it at least doesn't make you question everything that came before.

[@nautdead3197]

The holdo maneuver is just a minor detail.

[@ethanfox8979]

The Prequels make it even worse. The separatists had an entire army of droids. Strap a hyperdrive to a vulture droid and you have a lightspeed guided torpedo.

[@nautdead3197]

@J yeah but how did it make you feel

[@TheTriforceDragon]

@J The only solution, short of retconning the entire thing (preferable), that I can think of, is to make gravity well generators like those seen on Imperial Interdictor Cruisers far more prominent. While mostly used in the old EU, they have shown up in Rebels, so they are canon. Every settled planet would need a giant one capable of protecting it and every fleet would need either ships with or personal ones. It could be solved in universe, but it would be best to just erase it completely.

[@alekseischafer4287]

Anyone else notice how often ‘mauler kills rags’ is mauler’s go-to scenario for examples...?

[@gadellomagnollo1810]

Aleksei Schafer I wonder if he’s trying to signal something...

[@SilverTypo5081]

@@gadellomagnollo1810 he is getting tired of rags self aware cringe.

[@MegaSpideyman]

​@@SilverTypo5081 Do you think so?

[@tuffy1992]

I love how Mauler doesn't need to change his avatar to be topical.

[@nekonomicon2983]

He's been prepared long in advance

[@scottski02]

@CJED CJED The Long Man cannot be brought down by something as quaint as the Kung Flu

[@archiedebaldo5963]

"Mentor Rey"? Didn't Steve Irwin get killed by one of those?

[@kailaine3974]

ono

[@kylefrank638]

Fuckssake Jack Jack

[@danishcartoonist545]

*angry and sad Australian noises*

[@Emperor_Toxatine]

Force Jay to watch The Star Wars Holiday Special WITHOUT ALCOHOL on repeat as punishment for his sin. I have spoken.

[@StupidWeb]

I wanna do a reaction video of the holiday special, just fucking BLIND DRUNK

[@unpopularopinions7407]

That’s a reward not a punishment

[@TaoScribble]

That needs to be an EFAP Movies.

[@StupidWeb]

@@TaoScribble rags would be absolutely drunk

[@thatoneguy4452]

I don't have a problem with Luke being broken, disillusioned and cynical. I do have a problem with the events that lead him to be that way though. If they removed the whole "he tried to kill his sleeping nephew because of a bad dream" thing, it would've been better.

[@Birthday888]

I agree. If they drew more attention to the fact that the entire Jedi Order that Luke was trying to rebuild was wiped out by Kylo, I could understand why he was that way. But I can't picture the optimistic hero of the Rebels trying to kill his own nephew based off a bad dream and the potential for him to turn evil when he spared Darth Vader and believed that he still had good in him.

[@dragonknightleader1]

@@Birthday888 And definitely not do a cowardly thing like murder while someone's sleeping. He'd at least let them be awake if he was going to kill them.

[@thereviewersblock7459]

That One Guy also having Luke *actually* try to save Kylo multiple times. Instead of having 3 flashbacks of the same event through different perspectives. Actually have Luke try to bring Kylo back to the light but Snoke and The Knights of Ren keep preventing it. That’s what I thought was going to happen, that’s the whole reason I thought Luke was on the island (to find out a new force ability or where Snoke came from).

[@rascoehunter3608]

It is more important about how the story is executed. I can't stand it when people say "well it took risks" and think that is what makes a story better.

[@rascoehunter3608]

If Luke was stranded on the planet because of an accident would have made more sense, then him coming to the planet to die.

[@devonhickey3302]

Agree, and again, for the people in the back: NOBODY SAID YOU HAD TO BE A SKYWALKER TO BE A JEDI. This strawman created to defend TLJ is the biggest insult to Star Wars and its fans.

[@zorn1745]

Exactly. I honestly would’ve been fine with her being a nobody if she wasn’t so powerful at the start. The argument isn’t, “shes a Jedi so she has to be a Skywalker/Kenobi/Palpatine”, no, it’s, “oh my fucking god she just beat a trained Sith Lord after picking up a lightsaber for the first time, oh my fucking god she just used a force mind trick after learning of the force’s existence 5 minutes ago, oh my fucking god she just used force pull after learning of the forces existence 5 minutes ago, she must be from a powerful family/lineage”

[@GhostlyReeve]

But how did it make you feel. It made me confused and realize that they just ruined future space battles. The lore of star wars is awesome and a move like that messes with that lore.

[@HerohammerStudios]

But how did it make you feeeeel?

[@JakeMXZero]

Literally I started laughing, I was like "so every space battle ever was a waste of time and resources"

[@Kingofdragons117]

I can't believe they killed off Ackbar for that hag to steal the show....

[@FuddlyDud]

@Mason Smith The best part is that things can make you feeeel and make sense!! Have her move the ship in front of the shuttles and speed into the Supremacy, hyperspace jumping around the last second, this ripping a massive piece of said ship with it! It’s funny how they use the feeels as an excuse when HUNDREDS of movies make sense and pull on your heart strings, especially the OT and ROTS (Order 66)! It’s so sad that we are so unable to critique and love something at the same time

[@calemr]

"How does it make you feel" "Don't think about it" "Ignore any massive lasting harm it has on the future". HelloGreedo thinks brain damage is an unimportant detail to getting addicted to smack.

[@wilder11]

And people wonder why our society and government are utterly corrupt. Thinking is bad. Objectivity is impossible. Feelings and consumption are what matters. Feel good bro, don't worry about it. The motto of a dying civilization.

[@mpw26]

Anyone else notice this? This thing of how sequel defenders must always spend half of their videos setting the viewers up to feel certain things and/or talking about how people who dont blindly consume whatever products thrown at them are toxic & etc and/or how society views whatever movie in a bad light is totally not because of what's actually in it but rather because of expectations or just the classic "people who dont like it are blakisms and blankists" and/or having to point out how the previous movies weren't absolutely perfect in every regard imaginable by pointing out something like bad acting and speech patterns, like that's comparable to how people are now able to destroy whatever spaceships they want anytime they want as long as they have someone willing to kamikaze................or just have some spare droid laying around. Of course there are even more recognizable patterns amongst the sequel defenders but you all get the point. Why do the sequels need so much setup to be talked about? Ya know, it's almost as if its a bunch of trash written by two idiots who hate each other.

[@Canaris3]

Sequels cant stand on their own so they need to setup elaborate traps and bank on nostalgia to get some traction. Just like leftists can never win an argument based on facts and logic so they always have to deflect and call people -ist and -ism.

[@thomaswalsh5848]

"But how does it make you feel?" It makes me feel angry because they destroyed everything that came before, the characters are inconsistent and lacked any development that would lead them to their actions or inactions in the sequels... "Oh, you just hate women then.."

[@SteveSmith-ty8ko]

@@thomaswalsh5848 “You’re a sextism, and a racetism. You just can’t handle our diverse cast and shitty plot you bigot.”

[@TheJolle]

Emotional piano music... Soft voice... Emotional arguments... Intellecutal film analysis... This... is a video essay

[@kylefrank638]

You might have THOUGHT this was how the thing in the movie it was... but actually you'll find it's DEEPER

[@Doctor_Straing_Strange]

Do you find that HiTop films is as bad as this guy? I actually quite like him and I would like another opinion.

[@kylefrank638]

@@Doctor_Straing_Strange I think HiTops is all over the place. Sometimes I agree with him nearly 100% like his Batman Doesn't Kill vid, but then there's his Birds of Prey review, and it's just like making excuses for why the story or characters don't matter because he likes colorful things...

[@Doctor_Straing_Strange]

Kyle Frank same. I think that when it comes to Spider-Man he lets his emotions get in the way of objective criticism, but otherwise he's got talent and the majority of his videos are great. I also love his Batman does not kill video, his absolute best.

[@crossbones116]

21:35 Damn MauLer. However will you recover from his scathing satire of you.

[@ori.g4mi]

HelloGreedo: "Yeah sure sure lore broken, sure, get it, uh-huh, how does it make you *FEEL* though"

[@franciscoercoreca9081]

orig4mi angry. Disappointed. Unable to understand how we got here

[@espalorp3286]

I feel itchy

[@mgeiger2341]

*Oversimplified busts in* But what does it mean, exactly?

[@GigaChadh976]

“Fucking infuriated that I got conned into seeing this trash”

[@10011110011]

I dont feel so good

[@TaoScribble]

For the second video, here's a concept that people seem to COMPLETELY miss: People that disagreed with your opinions and tastes and commented on that? They've literally *always* existed. Have you seriously never had a conversation with your friends, family, or co-workers? Can you seriously tell me that you have the exact same tastes? That you or they've literally _never_ said ANYTHING along the lines of "That thing is trash, and your tastes are questionable"? You're telling me that you've NEVER ribbed each other? You're telling me that you honestly believe that NO ONE talks behind your back? Add to that the fact that YOU ARE ON THE INTERNET. It is a PUBLIC SPACE. All public conversation that takes place on the internet includes *EVERYONE THAT CAN ACCESS THE INTERNET.* If you say something offline that someone agrees/disagrees with, they'll tell you. So why the bloody hell do you NOT expect that to multiply WHEN THE ENTIRE INTERNET IS INVOLVED?! So no, it isn't that all of a sudden it's 'not okay to have a different opinion', it's that you can't handle the size of the crowd.

[@Ramsey276one]

And good lick walking away from THIS crowd Or claiming you didn’t say something that’s probably archived and mirrored who knows how many times Basically doing something online is the Ultimate Bungie Jump INTO A SARLACC PIT HAVE FUN MAKING IT THROUGH UNTOUCHED

[@archiedebaldo5963]

When Mauler has 100,000 subscibers, he will be awarded the Silver Pause Button.

[@AnAngryMarauder]

Silver paws award*

[@johnk.7523]

The silver paw print would go to Rags

[@alpharage1090]

"What is a film without a hero to root for?" Godfather, Pulp Fiction, Clockwork Orange, Citizen Kane, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, etc. Also known as some of the greatest films ever created.

[@thereviewersblock7459]

And if you want modern films where you don’t root for the hero Whiplash and Joker

[@alpharage1090]

@@thereviewersblock7459 also very good movies

[@SangheiliSpecOp]

The only one of those I ever saw was pulp fiction. It would seem that I am missing out......

[@legomoviesstudios8822]

@@thereviewersblock7459 but you do root for Andrew in whiplash. That's why the end is so satisfying, when you see that he stops caring about pleasing Flachter. And he just dies what he wants and stops being held back by someone's approval.

[@thereviewersblock7459]

Nir Yovel Studios Not really. Yeah, gets what he wants but at what cost? He pushes his girlfriend away, he gets much more violent and lashes out constantly, is emotionally tramautized by this guy, and even distances himself from his dad (which is why he looks at his son so frightened at the end). You root for him at the beginning because he’s humble and kind of introverted but once Fletcher starts to influence him, you see him become more of an asshole.

[@MichaelS-jk8tj]

These people who think that characters don't have to be consistent and a continuation of an existing story doesn't have to be beholden to the previous installments in that story are called "bad storytellers" and their opinion on stories is safe to disregard completely. They clearly do not understand the purpose of continuing stories. They should only be permitted to make original stories and never continue any existing stories.

[@samwallaceart288]

Tommy Wiseau’s “Star Wars 3, Chapter 1” Official Trailer (transcript): (violin music) Mid-afternoon in Coruscant Leia and Poe look upset. Starkiller base is hovering in the sky above them; glowing ominous Red. Leia: “ThAt’S nOt RiGhT... (turns to her mentally challenged BFF, Poe) ... Did you know about this?” Poe: (eating a sandwich) “Don’t ask me. You’re the boss around here.” Dramatic closeup of Kylo Ren grabbing Max Von Sydow by the back of the neck. Kylo Ren: “I ASKED YOU ABOUT THAT DROID! YOU’RE BEING VERY impolite. I’m going to fucking kill you.” Cut to dramatic black. FROM VISIONARY DIRECTOR-WRITER TOMMY WISEAU Tie fighters chasing the millenium falcon A NEW STORY AWAKENS Rey using the force OVER A THOUSAND YEARS IN THE MAKING slow fade in Han Solo: (enters the falcon)... oh Hi Rey, I didn’t know it was you. Rey: That’s me. STAR WARS III Chapter I The Force

[@Сайтамен]

I want this.

[@Marcara081]

If the Empire had shot down the escape pod with the Death Star plans on it how would they have known that they had destroyed the plans? They'd still be searching endlessly for them. The point was to secure and then destroy the plans.

[@skinflutey]

They did have orders to destroy all escape pods

[@Raigan_Avalon]

@@skinflutey When did we hear that? It was ages since I watched A New Hope, but I have no memory of them having orders to destroy all escape pods. As I recall the only line regarding that was something along the line of, "Hold your fire. There are life signs onboard. It must have malfunctioned."

[@skinflutey]

@@Raigan_Avalon true they don’t actually say they have orders it’s just implied

[@Raigan_Avalon]

@@skinflutey Fair enough. Though I've always seen it as they're under orders to not let any of the crew escape. Not that they need to destroy the escape pods.

[@skinflutey]

@@Raigan_Avalon that could be true also

[@deusvult7903]

I haven’t seen any of Darth Malls content but I trust him

[@fizzlewick]

But i heard he hangs out with that mooper guy, so dissapointing

[@deusvult7903]

Just a Bee idk, I feel like Ralph painted Mooper in a really bad light but I feel like he made some good points. Honestly, watch Mooper’s video series called “In defense of clown movie that Ralph doesn’t like”. It really showcases just how good Mooper can be at long form critique

[@samwallaceart288]

I can’t wait for Darth Mall, MooLer, Mooper, and MauLer to collab! It will be epik.

[@Squeeble00]

@@samwallaceart288 bro you forgot about mewbshlie

[@samwallaceart288]

@@Squeeble00 Let’s not forget that none of this would’ve been possible without Wumbo

[@Mythonaut]

“What’s a film without a hero to root for” literally citizen Kane

[@Hashbrown1682]

Pulp fiction

[@franciscoercoreca9081]

Would rocky be considered here too? Apollo isn’t “evil” and rocky doesn’t do anything “heroic”. He trains and prepares himself but that’s not heroic itself

[@ottob9804]

Good bad ugly

[@razkable]

the best film of all time

[@emile1365]

The Godfather one and two, or any Depalma psycho thriller. Edited for being a spaz.

[@dtzyYT]

I immediately lost my shit and started laughing when hellogrreedo said that he does not *really* care about star wars, really. That storm trooper masked dude/girl is a gem!

[@kylecampbell565]

He’s a father so he’s a dude

[@Squeeble00]

@@kylecampbell565 how dare you assume such a thing in [current year]

[@151monka]

​@@Squeeble00 it has been 3 yrs since [current year], and in [current year] you still cannot say such things

[@hosaepalvin9795]

@@151monkaif people getting mad at you is why you are afraid to say anything, then you are just as bitch as them.

[@sunbro6998]

Palp did give false info, the rebels didn't think the death star was operational.

[@anonymouspotato1082]

Doesn’t mean he had to actually put in the fatal weakness, theirs overconfidence and then theirs just plain stupidity.

[@sunbro6998]

@@anonymouspotato1082 this is incomprehensible. I have no idea what you're saying.

[@papershadow]

The way the DS2 plan acquisition is framed tends to suggest it was a heist that the Emperor made easier, but it is kept pretty vague. In the scenario where the alliance steals fake plans, that means they have to be convincing to a group that they know has access to the first Death Star's plans, while not being accurate enough for them to use once the attack is underway. At that point wouldn't you essentially have to have the architects craft a completely different Death Star architecture in addition to the one actually used for the false plan? The amount of work that would take for a false flag bait runs the risk of the Rebellion discovering the station on their own terms, making them even more wary of information they acquire if they know the Empire will expect their retaliation. It's not like the Emperor even left them in position for that information to work well. He had a massive defense for the Shield, meaning the fighters couldn't enter the structure, set up a massive fleet to wipe out a potential assault, and omits the DS2 actually being operational while able to quickly destroy Cruisers and having operational point defenses for the fighters. Logistically there would have to be several steps to clear beyond "just use fake plans" given how hard the working DS design was to finish, much less a fake-but-convincing set for such bait. Even with the real plans, the Rebellion came within a hair of being wiped out if not for the Ewoks and Han's ploy to capture the Shield base well behind the planned time. This would be a Post-Hoc plothole because it assumes the Empire could draft believable fake plans for the Death Star and put them in such a position as to convincingly leak to the Rebellion without also acquiring the real ones or any inclination that there is more (much less different) information. On top of that, this whole argument is a whataboutism that assumes RotJ (often debated as being of-quality in the OT and generally agreed to have questionable writing decisions) is an entry that these critics do not also criticize AND whose plot hole has relevance to/explains away the reference point of contention in the Sequel film in the first place.

[@Stad122]

@@anonymouspotato1082 People seem to forget that the second death star was, ya know, under construction.

[@anonymouspotato1082]

@papershadow69 yeah but why not have a backup shield generator for the actual energy core that wasn’t a part of the original plans and was added by a special team a week ago? We know from the prequels that smaller shield generators like this do exist. I mean it could have been because of his overconfidence but I’m sure most leaders would have taken the extra precaution since the same thing kind of happened with the first Death Star and it’s destruction coming from their overconfidence and would have taken the extra risk since they were putting all their eggs in this one basket.

[@DougRampent]

I think this group is sniffing "Experimental Internet Gas!"

[@DougRampent]

@warystatue33 All I know is that Rags likes to stick his nose into everything! lol

[@Red_Lanterns_Rage]

more like huffing their own beer farts.....

[@Red_Lanterns_Rage]

@warystatue33 LMFAO!

[@amanibob1416]

"Let's weaponize it!" Bildo Haggin'

[@kws_1338]

32:27 it’s also VERY much worth pointing out that Yoda originally didn’t train Luke because he was testing him and Luke just acted like a bitch, and Yoda still chose to test him at Obi-Wan’s urging and knowing that Luke (and Leia) was perhaps their only hope(s) in saving the galaxy. Because of this, Luke learned from the situation and grew both as a Jedi and as a character. In TLJ Luke refuses to train Rey because he was a cunt, and he also had no motivation for wanting Rey to succeed, AND he didn’t end up training her at all anyway. All Rey learns from the experience is... don’t trust in myths that you didn’t even think were real in the first place the previous day? You don’t need to train as long as you flail your lightsaber with confidence? That people can just outright lie and say their situations were the same is hilarious. Rian Johnson WANTED us to recognize them as similar, and they seem to think that’s enough; they’ve just fallen for extremely lazy bait without using their brain to actually think about what they’re watching. Edit: 4:45:35 coincidentally upon further watching, here is exhibit B of "Rian Johnson wanted thing so don't think about what led to thing"

[@ShiningSpecks]

Don't ask questions, just consume

[@kden9772]

Heros can fail. If you try to kill a kid in his sleep, you are no longer a hero.

[@samwallaceart288]

Eh.. depends on context

[@johannesseyfried7933]

@@samwallaceart288 If that Kid was possessed by the Anti-Christ?

[@samwallaceart288]

Johannes Seyfried - Antichrist is a descriptive term, not a singular person. It just means “person not living in the ways of Christ.” That’d be like killing a kid for having marxist tendencies.

[@kden9772]

SamWallace Art the only good commie is a dead commie

[@amanibob1416]

"But what about baby Hitler?" Bilbo Piano Wirenschtein

[@michaelmccarty1327]

“I HAVE to kill StarWars, or it will die.” -Rian Johnson

[@Ramsey276one]

LOGIC 100

[@Darkness1984]

Lucas already killed it in 1999.

[@michaelmccarty1327]

@@Darkness1984 That's precisely why he had to kill it!

[@techno639]

Star Wars can't die, it never died and it never will

[@SteveSmith-ty8ko]

@@Darkness1984 How though, did Yoda doing backflips make you not like those films.

[@TonyTama]

Isnt a detailed oriented star wars fan? Is that like an admission to watching it for the pretty lights and sounds then if the details do not matter? Why like star wars if not for the details, nuance, and things. Just being hypnotized and entranced by sparkly, shiny effects is like watching a candlelight fire. It gets boring.

[@Longshanks1690]

The Intecelucalism of this EFAP was the most self-aware cringe I've ever seen.

[@CR2024T]

I agree. This leftist podcast smells of incel cringe right wing sexist propaganda

[@emile1365]

@@CR2024T At least it's not the r/ Sigmarmarxism podcast, Mauler avoided a bullet there with that absolute cringefest!

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

indeed, it was morally appreciable just how deep the self-awareness of the Cringeiness went.

[@solarsailer4166]

Team EFAP vs Intellecutal Man and his powers of Subjectivity.

[@RebornVengeancex]

"Too much detail in the title" -Hello Greedo

[@nathanjora7627]

5:38 « I’m gonna reference it in TFA part 3 » Oh boy, I can’t wait for that, and I heard Half Life 3 is scheduled to come out at the same time, so many exciting prospects :D (You frickin tease 😭)

[@raam726]

After that he'll review game of thrones season 8. Then iron Man 3.

[@reginaldfromnigeria5206]

@@raam726 Then Terminator...

[@raam726]

@@reginaldfromnigeria5206 dark fate?

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

The more YT reviews I see like these, the more I think these YTers are all film appreciation majors who simply want to classify everything as good regardless of the merits of such claims, knowing they write at the same level of incompetence. Thankfully there is the oasis of logic called EFAP in this desert of self-delusion and purchse confirmation bias.

[@dragonknightleader1]

Film Studies majors and most professional critics are also very snooty who believe they have an "evolved" sense of taste and they definitely poo-poo plenty of media that doesn't fit with their taste. Oscar-bait movies are a good example of their taste while many popular films are seen as for the plebs such as the MCU or the Orville. So it's not like they can't discern good from bad, it's that they have a lack of empathy for why popular media is popular.

[@spencermadison]

EFAP is barely logical.

[@ruinaze]

@@spencermadison with how idiotic the videos they cover are they look like an oasis of logic next to them, tbf

[@razkable]

it makes them human just like us..wow....me: wants to throw up because 1. luke was aready like us without making this big a error and he lost my sympathy for it 2. not ever fictional character in a fictional world has to be like us 3. this is not a normal mistake he lost his mind and went psycho which goes against his entire being

[@gringles]

Somewhere in the world, Doomcock heard them tearing into this guy for wearing a mask, recording the audio separately and waving his hands around in front of a camera.

[@hitchhicker2013]

In his live streams he does the voice change in real time so I'm not too sure about that.

[@darthdragonborn1552]

@@hitchhicker2013 and he’s playing a character greedo is literally just him with the helmet lol

[@mattarcher8103]

3:33:09 "Remember when it was ok to like different things?" Jay: "oh fuck off!" My thoughts exactly

[@RocketarmsMedia]

00:53:37 When they mention rooting for a terrible person I thought of thanos, not for his scheme but for his commitment towards a goal; he gets shit done and succeeds (even if endgame changes things)

[@TheSlammurai]

"Nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask." "No, they still don't care." God DAMN.

[@holy1to325]

Oh my god I totally forgot we are approaching the first gdelb I will actually understand the references in

[@TheRedGauntlet]

What an Intellecutal podcast this was

[@95keat]

Wow, I can't believe these massives spend *EIGHT HOURS* bullying that sweet girl Jay What self aware cringe

[@matthewreyes5951]

It never ceases to amaze me just how bad and devoid of logic so many of these video trying to defend Star Wars actually are. It's just poor argument after poor argument with these people and I can't help but wonder...is their inner-fanboy blinding them to what's actually on the screen or is it something else, because Episodes 7, 8, & 9 have done nothing positive for Star Wars at all.

[@crimsonpotemkin]

Maybe the real self-aware cringe were the friends we made along the way. I'm sorry.

[@thevoicej2511]

The Bandog The sorry is the made you along the thumbs way.

[@espalorp3286]

Thumb.

[@nautdead3197]

I like this comment because its self aware cringe

[@amanibob1416]

"-T'is a theme of tisamy!" Bildo Haggin'

[@151monka]

This EFAP was self-aware cringe

[@TaoScribble]

"But how does it make you _feel?"_ It breaks my immersion because it's so stupid and that *_PISSES ME OFF._*

[@archstanton9073]

24 hours later and he still hasn't fixed the spelling of "intellectual".

[@Mythonaut]

Arch Stanton “Intellecutal”*

[@terasutube1]

2 days later and he just remove the text altogether

[@Sharicite]

@@terasutube1 lmao he did

[@151monka]

​@@terasutube1 4 years later, and i cant even find his channel, so i think he deleted the whole channel at some point

[@kingkwon8002]

God damn, hearing about Jar Jar’s fate made me feel disgusted with Disney’s Lucasfilm. I’m sure Ahmed Best would be thrilled to learn about it, smh.

[@jitterygravy2829]

You mean G*d damn?

[@Arko777777]

Wait, what's so bad about it? When I first heard it I had a "meh" reaction, but people seem to be offended by the fact that the person partially responsible for Palpatine's rise to power doesn't have it that well. Is it about the fact that he ended up as a clown? Please elaborate. I'm genuinely curious.

[@kingkwon8002]

Arko Palpatine tricked the entire Galaxy, not just one man/Gungan. In fact, the Gungans as a whole were nothing more than pawns to help the emperor solidify his power. But of course these writers don’t think that hard. Jar Jar’s downfall is purposely spiteful imo because of its completely meta commentary; him becoming “a clown that only children loved but adults hated,” and that the Gungans were “convinced he and Palpatine were one person.” Lucasfilm’s way of mocking the character, George Lucas and the fans all in one swoop.

[@unpopularopinions7407]

Arko Regardless of how you feel about Jar Jar, when a large part of TPM was him being an exile who is accepted back into his home, it just doesn’t seem right to have that suddenly be undone in a book and have his character end right back where he started. At least we can probably make some good Jar Jar/Joker memes now

[@kingkwon8002]

Unpopular Opinions Doesn’t change the fact that Jar Jar was only one out of trillions of people tricked by Palpatine, added to the fact that he was an essential part in bridging the gap between the Gungans and the people of Naboo. Under any other circumstances, that would’ve been extremely beneficial for his people. I’m not asking for anything to be “undone,” I’m saying look at the facts. With, or without Jar Jar, Palpatine would’ve created the Empire which makes his fate absolutely undeserved.

[@Richiedoesmc]

A Tommy Star Wars trilogy would be a beautiful train wreck that would be immortalized in gold for eons to come.

[@kylefrank638]

"Hai this is Tommy Wiseau, creator of The Roommm, let me introduce you to the newww, EMPEROR!" "AAAAAAAAAAAAAghgghAAAAAA-"

[@ToonamiT0M]

With everything going on, this year's GDELB will be such a breath of fresh air.

[@charmandyorton006]

A breath of non-COVID air, if you will

[@ZachDoumit]

Good lord, this is like listening to a completely different person. Cannot fucking believe I used to like TROS

[@themexican8720]

Character development

[@megaultradamn]

Or tlj ...right?

[@Galvatronover]

It happens to the best of us eventually you live with it

[@LZeroK]

When did this happen? This never showed up in my subs when it was live... GOD DAMMIT KZbin!!!

[@Arassar]

Yeah... 😑

[@ericv00]

Worse for me. I could SEE that it was happening, but KZbin wasn't presenting me with a link to the stream. We REALLY need to migrate to another platform. KZbin is awful.

[@sagacity1071]

Its cuz they spoke about the virus, KZbin thinks they are the ccp.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

I'm a Mauler describer and it never showed up in my inbox lol

[@no_names-]

"Go back to Africa! Go back to the OT!" Jlongbone never change. 8:33 0.25 speed

[@archstanton9073]

Ugh, I hope she would change. Half the stuff she says is weird racially tinged stuff.

[@archstanton9073]

@Lick Tasty I'm well aware.

[@spencermadison]

@@archstanton9073 Nice reference to The good, the bad, and the ugly. Your profile pic.

[@archstanton9073]

@PragmaticHornet Nah. I just don't like her shtick.

[@KelShu]

If Snoke was made by Palpatine does that mean he's Rey's uncle?

[@unpopularopinions7407]

and kylo’s great uncle

[@KelShu]

@@unpopularopinions7407 And Luke's Uncle?

[@Dreamerx47]

@@KelShu So has anyone aknowledged the fact that palpatine is Kylos great grandfather and Reys grandfather? I found it interesting that the incest kiss is the one tradition they kept from the old movies.

[@praetorianjoelnjoku9805]

juho aalto has the palpatine made anakin thing canonised

[@KelShu]

@@praetorianjoelnjoku9805 It was in the comics until they retconed it

[@MF-nu3pe]

I think TRoS would have actually been amazing if Palpatine killed everyone. He's the only one in the movie that actually worked to earn a victory. It also would have been very therapeutic for every sequel character to be killed. Similarly, it's kind of what Disney did to Star Wars, they plunged it into darkness.

[@Se05239]

This HelloGreedo guy is trying his damnedest to fold the paper he has been given more times than its physically possible.

[@TheCalamityCain]

Hey guys, I comment on your videos a lot, mostly just for fun or the shitposting, but I'm pretty down lately. But you guys are such fun to listen to. It helps. It's nice to tune into a discussion with real dudes and dudettes who don't get wound up and offended by every little thing. I feel like if I were on your podcast I could speak my mind, no matter if we disagreed or not, before getting on with laughing at terrible videos. That's the kind of podcast I enjoy. Just like the Drunken Peasants back in the day. It's an oasis in a sea of bland or nightmarish shit. So many times I feel outnumbered by the kinds of people who think everything is racist or sexist, even some of my friends can get that way sometimes. Some of my online communities are gripped by this mentality and I feel like I'm walking on eggshells just to fit in. Places where shitposting or off-color jokes are immediately branded "hate speech" and "problematic". It makes me feel like I'm the asshole sometimes, when intellectually I know I'm not. It's a real pain in the ass. So thanks for showing that real people of all stripes still exist, can gather, and can enjoy each others company laughing at shit movies, regardless of your race, sex, sexuality, politics or creed. Don't quit.

[@austinjohnsen4430]

I wonder how Greedo would feel if someone made a video where they just insert themselves into scenes in the sequels to mock the characters and stuff that’s going on in them? That’s what he did to the prequels.

[@anonymouspotato1082]

I don’t think he’d care.

[@austinjohnsen4430]

Ryan Griffin Really? I find it hard to believe it wouldn’t get under his skin a little bit. It would for a lot of sequel fans.

[@anonymouspotato1082]

@Austin Johnsen Yeah but he’s not really one of those fans, he’s pretty laid back honestly, just because I don’t agree with some of the things he says doesn’t mean he’s a bad person, he’d probably think it was funny since that was the intention when he did. For kicks and laughs.

[@austinjohnsen4430]

Ryan Griffin He’s made plenty of videos taking shots at the detractors of these movies. Like in his if the internet was around during the OT video. Sure they were probably made in good fun but I doubt that he doesn’t harbor just a tiny bit of resentment over how these movies have been ripped apart. There are fans out there who say they really can’t stand this kind of negativity.

[@thesnipingseal8011]

I have an even better one: Why I hated rise of skywalker-it made me hate tlj and the entirety of the ST even more

[@Red_Lanterns_Rage]

you mean SW....... ST is Star Trek SW is Star Wars for future reference

[@thesnipingseal8011]

Red Lantern's Rage It stands for Sequel Trilogy also

[@Red_Lanterns_Rage]

@@thesnipingseal8011 then just say DSW for Disney Star Wars, same thing but more clear eh

[@thesnipingseal8011]

Red Lantern's Rage ok

[@Red_Lanterns_Rage]

@Victor Kurske I can get behind that....

[@vivacornholio9649]

“Rian thought Luke hiding there (the island) was heroic... while everyone else is dying....” sums up Rian and his shitty movie perfectly.

[@TheTriforceDragon]

Regarding fixing the Lightspeed ramming in future Star Wars stories. Outside of just retconning it out (which I would prefer, it is stupid), one could potentially draw upon the lore behind Interdictor Cruisors (which show up in Rebels) and their gravity well generators which when active prevents lightspeed travel around the ship using the technology. The problem presented in the past for such technology was that it was incredibly energy intensive and thus required a dedicated ship which could also only field minimum armanent, but if it is a question between using such technology and getting lightspeed rammed I think the answer is obvious.

[@alesin1992]

But Spaceballs is still boring.

[@DZ-X3]

Nope, that couldn't work: JJ has already established that gravity wells have no effect. You can jump in and out of Disney's hyperspace anywhere you like, even right above the surface of a planet.

[@blankadams3120]

'Snoke' is his full name, but, this other character who only had one name for three movies was revealed to have the name Sheev...

[@kamenLegendJ]

You got a point there.... yikes that name

[@espalorp3286]

YIKES 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 LOL LMAO ROFL

[@kylefrank638]

4:31:59 As if to insinuate Luke's "old mindset" was to stab family in the back, hide from responsibility, and give zero shits about greater causes. The guy that stood by his boring aunt and uncle to help them with unfulfilling farming, instead of pursuing a glorious battle against the empire, and then when they died, didn't hesitate for a moment to risk his life, step up to face off with those responsible, and in the end, had the faith to believe his murderous, dangerous father wasn't beyond saving.

[@grfrjiglstan]

I may not always get a chance to catch these live, but I'm glad I was here for "intellecutal".

[@germanscience7246]

1:56:50 fun little fact. when JWFK was being marketed universal and collin trevorrow actually brought on a group of fans to create a whole website called the dinosair protection group which helped plug up plot holes in the preivous 4 films. in addition to this, the fan group also set collin and his team straight on what was canon to the series or not. thanks to their efforts, the Jurassic park coninuity is pretty air tight and most of the plot holes in the first 4 films and even some of the ones in JWFK have been plugged up

[@SangheiliSpecOp]

Thats cool and good :o

[@KirkulesTM]

Imagine if Rey looked at her being related to Palpatine as a good thing. That she was going to use all that power from her "dark side" to try and eliminate the first order once and for all.

[@andrews4717]

Does anyone think Greedo has six siblings named Prideo, Envyo, Slotho, Lusto, Wratho, and Gluttonyo

[@Naekil]

If Greedo hello doesn't want souless homages why is he defending TLJ???? That movie is scene by scene The empire strikes back and the thrones scene of Return of the Jedi. Ruin Jhonson original take is to put the scenes out of order and ad breaking Univers stuff. Even DJ switching side is "homage" to Lando and his deal with Vader"...

[@austin9568AuraMasterDX]

Is it because TROS subverted TLJs expectations

[@laughingapples5345]

jlongbone's laughter brings me joy even when a big galaxy brain tries to defend TLJ

[@666lupine666]

Jay is the only person everyone on the panel is comfortable making fun of. We need him back.

[@raddarat8471]

5:48:40 so since Rey gave some of her palpy's DNA to heal the worm does that make the worm a Palpatine?

[@Lunartic_]

Only 8 hours? Why don't you love us, MauLer?

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

Short man bad

[@Arko777777]

@@lieutenantnomad9198 And the newest one is only 8 hours as well! Short man bad indeed!

[@CatoSierraWasTaken]

if "die Jay" is German for "the Jay", why is Jay a woman?

[@GigaChadh976]

He doesn’t do it on purpose

[@spookbuster4862]

Jay is pretty effeminate.

[@freshnicki5777]

Because Die is feminine in german and Der would be masculine

[@spookbuster4862]

@@freshnicki5777 I think cato knows, but jay obviously didn't, otherwise he wouldn't have referred to himself as a woman lmao

[@CatoSierraWasTaken]

@@freshnicki5777 Ja, es ist die Basis meines Kommentars.

[@HiperPivociarz]

I love them just bullying Jay for liking the Hulk dab

[@LordMephilis]

Palpatine did give the rebels fake Intel in Return of the Jedi, that the Death Star was not yet operational.

[@S4ns]

Someone who liked TLJ ... AND ...TROS? That's just ... scary.

[@MetalSandman999]

I come across some every now and then. Usually they are among the "all Star Wars is great and of you don't like every movie then you aren't a real fan and are just a toxic fan who hates everything but the OT" crowd.

[@NearingLostLight]

4:38:38 Please bring us justice for jar jar

[@ZachDoumit]

Stay Intellecutal my friends, we appreciate the massive boost of views on our channel

[@Longshanks1690]

@The Thought Theater Is your channel banner an inside joke or were you just drunk when you wrote it?

[@ZachDoumit]

King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England I might’ve been a little drunk

[@tysocks5059]

The Thought Theater say fart! Say it!!!

[@ZachDoumit]

Ty Socks fàrt

[@tysocks5059]

The Thought Theater thanks 😊

[@-MrFozzy-]

If you correctly assume that Hello Greedo first records the audio, then records himself standing there, listening to his own words while adding emphasis with his arms….it becomes a weird experience watching his content. It’s certainly…..a choice. I’d mic the helmet or run the audio through a helmet style filter….it would be much less weird than clear, crisp audio.

[@vadandrumist1670]

The rappers of EFAP: [a cigarette]'s Rags, Longbone J, Big W2, Lil Kick Jay, Mauler Objectively Gold (Mog)

[@oshaqsha9826]

Lil’ KJ

[@TheRealJabbergeist]

Ragz 2 Richez

[@yashaoftheflames8475]

her: you cheated on me with my sister and mother! Me: I know, but how does it make you feel? Her *turns super saiyan

[@TheThaiBuddy]

I wonder if EFAP has ever seen the Star Wars parody by Aurelnauts on KZbin. The Jedi are literal drug-addicts who use midichlorians as heroin

[@nautdead3197]

Tree world we go hard

[@ProjectRedfoot]

I want them to watch Kylo's videos again! They have only seen a few seconds

[@scienceviking4490]

5:16:00 This is something that really annoys me about the discussion around Rey. Thought Theater says that Rey's identity is tied to her lineage in a positive way because "They're coming back". But, that has nothing to do with lineage. Rey doesn't want her parents to be special, she just wants them back. Her reaction to her parents not being special should have been "I don't care, I just want them back". Rey being upset that her parents were nobody is the moment that broke her as a character more than anything else that happened in the entire trilogy. Before that, she had a motivation that was uniquely hers, and that would be hard to achieve, even with all her power. In other words, for all her flaws, she at least WAS a character. Then, Rian sanded off her only motivation and turned her into a generic plot device/self insert.

[@mateuszz259]

Doesnt Revenge of the Sith end with the dual sunset? This means episode III is the PERFECT beginning to Luke's story

[@alonivercuthalion9902]

Wow thanks KZbin, I search like crazy to see if EFAP was streaming and turned up with nothing

[@leonhartdragomir8948]

Electrolemon and Intellecutal: The Legendary EFAP Pokemon!

[@pezdispencer113]

It's clearly a Digimon, it was speaking instead of saying it's named repeatedly like all brain damaged Pokemon do, and it ends in 'mon' which is consistently a Digimon thing and not at all a Pokemon thing.

[@JustAnArrogantAlien]

Imagine being so smitten by how “cOoOl” some scene in a movie was, that you end up arguing in favor of dismantling the entire film series just so you can keep your “cOooOL” scene. That is apparently what the hyperspace kamikaze did to HelloGreedo.

[@Warmaka]

4:20:55 The Hero's Journey isn't just a fucking Checklist where if you can check every box it makes for a great story. For. Fucks. Sake. Yeah, sure Rey met her mentor. How well was that story arc done though? It was horrendous.

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

8 hours? That’s a damn work day!!!

[@Strawberrymilkdrink]

It's a pretty short EFAP

[@Arassar]

It's definitely on the short end for this show

[@theentangledwiggler-man2344]

It's pretty fun though.

[@SilverTypo5081]

Long man bad

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

#shortmanbad But seriously, I'm glad that EFAPs have been getting shorter lately.

[@spooplegeist5260]

The meme of them being long went too far. Time to return to basics. ONLY 8 hour streams.

[@Guinnessdrnkr1234]

Mauler's American accent is better than mine! And I'm from Kansas City.

[@Lukas-ix7ir]

Hello again, Mr AS THEY RELEASE WEEKLY man

[@Anuojat]

Maybe it was just silly joke, but the Dab stuff felt same as Rags at the end of that 1 EFAP. Popular cringe association is not an arguement, it might be funny but still...

[@crazykirsch]

Yeah a lot of the recent EFAPs have been really jarring in that regard. A little too much superiority-complex circlejerking on mundane shit. Like incessant whinging about redubbing audio over video.... as if that's not an extremely common practice across multiple professions.

[@LTDLetsPlays]

rags should be kicked and replaced by jay in my subjective objective opinion

[@LTDLetsPlays]

@Ed Carone if youtube stuff didnt negatively effected him i would agree but it does

[@DangerSquad]

Can't the part of Leia remembering her mother be explained as her adoptive mother? Bail's wife? As far as I'm aware she just knows that Luke is her brother, not that she was adopted. Obi Wan only told Luke that they were separated and hidden after birth.

[@Le-cp9tr]

Me, a few hours ago: Gee, Quarantine sure is boring. I hope we get an EFAP... EFAP: * Uploads * Me: * Pikachu Face *

[@dearcastiel4667]

Me: * happy degenerate noises *

[@franciscoercoreca9081]

Are you a spider?

[@deltacommando130]

How can hello Greedo dare call himself a fan of anything?!

[@supershadey09]

Oh he is. He just likes to pretend that he's not.

[@InsolentCrow]

Wow that second video. We may have found peak video essayist!