EFAP Mini: Reacting to the complete first season of Obi-Wan Kenobi

[@EveryFrameAPause]

Hey hey folks, this supercut took a bit to get together but it's ready to go with a lil extra at the end. An EFAP will premiere tomorrow and the next one will likely be on Thor: Love and Thunder - See yah when we see yah folks o/

[@fulcrum5849]

Will there be timestamps?

[@kreese-yi2nb]

Thank you EFAP! Now off you go to RLM rebuttal video #2 😂

[@fookinkoont]

Sending all my love to the squad, your dedication never ceases to amaze me. May the Spiders guude you all

[@JulianDoe]

@@fulcrum5849 I'm on it!

[@scottishcelts2040]

Cheers big man 👍

[@matthewcollins4773]

Character One: Never leaves Tatooine, cares about the local community, works to improve Sand People-Settler relations, "respect, not fear". Character Two: Jets around the galaxy tracking people, getting into fights, sometimes takes random citizens hostage. One of these characters is Obi-Wan Kenobi, one is Boba Fett. Can you guess which is which?

[@EyeOfMagnus4E201]

It’s almost like they swapped the story outlines for the Boba Fett and Obi-wan Kenobi shows, and then filled in the details using the “appropriate” events and characters. I swear it seems Disney is just trolling fans at this point.

[@NickYoung22]

Well said. I mentioned this on a singular breakdown of an episode. So cool the way they subvert our expectations. Vader being menacing? Nah, it’s his muppet inquisitors that are the real scary guys. I mean, they have two stomachs after all. Obi wan standing up for something he believes in because it’s what’s right? Fuck that shit, a 10 year old that believes you should respect droids will teach him what it really means to be brave and courageous with what you believe. Who should trust who more? A 10 year old that is being rescued by a Jedi? Or a Jedi who is rescuing a 10 year old. Obviously the Jedi is the one that doesn’t know shit, 10 year old thought process will save us all!

[@danishcartoonist545]

Fucking great comment Matty

[@username45739]

Vader pwns Reva and is menacing, are you saying the lead cenobite inquisitor upstaged Vader? Your other claims are prb also bull, to carying extents.

[@owlsayssouth]

Spot on.

[@calebjohnson4748]

I still love the fact that 15 minutes into the first episode, Fringy and Rags cold-guess the entire Reva arc, but are dissuaded from it because they identify certain plot holes that make it "impossible".

[@SangheiliSpecOp]

lmao

[@KneelB4Bacon]

Yup. The whole show, they're like, "the writers wouldn't do that. That would make no sense . . . oh."

[@lordvarrax5060]

It is hilarious, because her motivation makes zero sense but is also incredibly obvious.

[@jimberjamber8540]

@@lordvarrax5060 It's Schrodingers Plot Hole

[@RecluseBootsy]

Pretty much all of Disney's productions are this predictable, to be fair. 😂

[@ghostprojekt]

"I'm gonna avenge my Jedi friends... By killing Jedi for years!"

[@HerohammerStudios]

Including the children! Especially the children!

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Not to mention that a lot of the Jedi she's chasing are around the same age as she is, meaning she's been hunting down her fellow padawans many of which she might actually know. So it's more like “I’m gonna avenge my Jedi friends...by killing my Jedi friends!!!”

[@username45739]

A fanatic chip on the shoulder villain has a contradictory hypocritical mindset??

[@UltraKardas]

@@username45739 So let's say that people attack your family and friends. Let's call them.... the Matzis. You develop a chip on your shoulder, and join them?. . . There's a movie I suggest you watch. It's called Inglorious Bastards. Its a movie about fanatics with a chip on their shoulder. Kinda gives you a better idea of what happens in these scenarios. Spoiler alert, they don't join the Matzis.

[@username45739]

@@UltraKardas "o let's say that people attack your family and friends. Let's call them.... the Matzis. You develop a chip on your shoulder, and join them?. . . " Well in order to "crush them from within" via stealth... yeah? It's a stock plot, really. "There's a movie I suggest you watch. It's called Inglorious Bastards. Its a movie about fanatics with a chip on their shoulder. Kinda gives you a better idea of what happens in these scenarios." If Shoshanna had *intentionally* joined up with the Nazi invaders in order to pull that revenge plan - rather than improvising it after being pressured and then forced to participate in the cinema presentation - then that would've been the exact same plot as with Reva, yes.

[@tunabones5534]

“You can’t kill me yet, Vader, I still live in a cave” Made me LOSE IT

[@Vario69]

my favorite moment was when Lola was revealed to be the daughter or R2 and Bumblebee in his Chevrolet form

[@anthonysaylor8120]

Ruby Rose Batwoman 🤝 Kenobi show Obi-Wan >Letting mass murderers go free when they have them on the ropes, making them culpable for the future crimes committed >Impressively stupid, incompetent, and ethically questionable >Having a female antagonist miraculously survive when they absolutely should have died >Said female antagonist is pissed they weren't saved when they were a child, when the one they blame legit had no idea they could save them >starred in shortened seasons

[@Lundarian1]

>Not understanding, or certainly not acknowledging that female antagonist is by all accounts an evil villain.

[@nont18411]

Jacob 🤝 Obi-wan Getting blamed for everything that are beyond their powers

[@-Azure.EXE-]

>Shouting equals acting for female antagonist.

[@Shadowxx98]

i hate how much this fits

[@Kujo174]

Batwoman vs Kenobi when?

[@xxx-us9fj]

I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When you left me alive on that planet for the second time I was but the learner, but now I am the master.

[@casbyness]

"Obi Wan...Kenobi? Obi Wan. Now that's a name I haven't heard, for a....few days. A few days..."

[@wojak-sensei6424]

Only a master of evil, Da- Oh yeah, did you just blew up a fuggin' planet? Because I'll kinda be responsible for that.

[@Yusuke_Denton]

"I killed Anakin." "So my friend really is dead. Well goodbye there!"

[@Calvinosaur]

"So, at last we meet for the first time for the last time!" - Lone Starr

[@nicholaskinkaid]

After that line....Obi wan should have responded with "Have you come here to destroy me?" since obi wan went to Vaders ship lol. Oh and then Vaders response could be "I will do what I want"

[@pubcle]

A note on Imperial security and her cover: The Galactic Empire uses several layers of protection and information security. 1. Codes and credentials have authorization limited to specific assignments. Not just sectors, but assignments. If you're not in the exact right position you will be shot. 2. A base like this would be very tight security. It would also have at least a few Imperial Security Bureau officers within its ranks who make certain procedure is followed at point of blaster and are commonly around among the troops. They are also always sniffing for treason. 3. All vessels incoming require active and up-to-date credentials with clearance codes memorized that pair to the specific type of vessel. 4. These are extremely strict and punishable by death for violations, because the Empire will just jettison you out of an airlock. The only characters that can do anything without showing proper and full, exacting clearance of this specific station are potentially Grand Moff Tarkin, the head of the ISB, Darth Vader, and Emperor Palpatine. Other Grand Moffs also have near-universal authority within their sectors but that's still limited to the specific subset of systems. The 12 Grand Admirals also have pretty wide-ranging authority but that's limited to naval affairs. Considering that the number of people who can get clearance without being specifically cleared for it at this point would be maybe 4 people among the trillions serving the Galactic Empire, yeah that's not gonna happen. Also stormtroopers have vacuum seals in their armor that can last several hours. How dare anyone compare Disney to the Prequels. I would rather watch 7 hours of Jar Jar failing upwards than 10 minutes of 70% of Disney Star Wars.

[@HerohammerStudios]

Uhhh source?

[@Grrk_Jr]

But have you considered “no”. This needed to happen so fuck it. If only we had a Star Wars show account for these things. Oh well

[@pubcle]

@@HerohammerStudios What a redditor response. How about Return of the Jedi where it is directly described how difficult it was to get Imperial security clearance. As well as any military ever on how there's a separation of authority and clearances. Or the multiple sourcebooks both pre and post Disney dating back to the 1980s The entire existence of the Imperial Security Bureau.

[@eugenekrabs6400]

The stormtrooper getting limply slapped seems like the actors were told to improvise an action scene on the spot and they just went with the first take.

[@eugenekrabs6400]

@@Xeroph619 Would’ve honestly been better if there was a banana peel

[@fraiseld2183]

@@eugenekrabs6400 Dont forget the cartoony sound effect to emphasize that this is a show about "Space wizzard for children".

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

@@Xeroph619 or maybe the action scene was just shit?

[@patrioticcat5768]

That slap reminds me of the one from GET SMART where Steve Carell punches some guy going right but his body goes left and he says "wrong way" Because they had to fake it. But Get Smart seems like they put in more work for a silly movie.

[@kinagrill]

Imagine if they revealed she were a Former Padawan, so she had at least some force capability.

[@AugusCrafting]

The only thing they left out is an post-credit scene of Luke thirsty under the sun fixing a moisture collector, followed by Obi-Wan and Leia in a big speeder with huge drinks. They then stop, call him a loser and go full speed, leaving Luke under a mountain of sand

[@KneelB4Bacon]

And then a Jawa walks up to him and kicks him in the balls.

[@Vario69]

​​​@@KneelB4Baconrepeat this ad nauseum, inspired by the brilliant scene in Loki ©®

[@malcanth3481]

"Only you know how important she is." I can't stress how stupid this is. She is (supposed to be) their DAUGHTER. It would be more suspicious if they didn't use every resource at their disposal to rescue her. Nobody is going to be shocked if a parent wants to rescue their kidnapped child. It wouldn't matter that much if this didn't impact the plot. But considering that the ENTIRE show is based on the idea that parents aren't supposed to care if their children get kidnapped, we have a major issue here.

[@wojak-sensei6424]

With how braindead the Organas, Owen, and Beru are, I'm surprised Kenobi didn't just say "okay, as incompetent as I am, you people are utter tards. I'm taking these kids back."

[@rynobehnke8289]

And even if we for what ever reason granted Bails stupid point is Obi-wan still the wrong chose. Yoda is more powerful and has no one he has to look after so contact him instead.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@rynobehnke8289 The problem is he’s also supposed to be in hiding since he has already tried to kill Palpatine and failed. And if he left Dagobah, every force sensitive in the galaxy would know where he is and could track him down easily. Would have made much more sense to hire mercenaries to get her or go to the Imperial Senate to get the Empire to get his daughter back for him. Getting Obi-wan to do it is the second stupidest thing he could have done.

[@rynobehnke8289]

@@Lobsterwithinternet I didn't want to imply getting Yoda is a good Idea just that he would still be a better chose for the job than Obi-wan as he doesn't have to protect anything, his hiding place is clouded in the dark side meaning ones he retreats is no one gonna find him and is more powerful in the force meaning if he runs into opposition would he be better at dealing with it. The obviously right choice would be to ether alarm the Empire it self (he is a Senator so they have to act) or use his massive fortune to hire professional bounty hunters making it very clear that they are not to harm Liea or else they won't get payed. No matter if Mando, Boba, Cad Bain or who ever else they all should be able to get that job done.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@rynobehnke8289 True enough. Still would make a great HISHE video where he goes to the senate and Reva gets brought in for kidnapping a senator’s child while Obi-wan excitedly comments that he's happy he didn't have to do something so stupid as leave Luke alone to go on a pointless adventure.

[@annatardlordofderps9181]

Fun is not something one considers when watching a franchise they love die.... but this does put a smile on my face.

[@ritenac6770]

Star Wars died a while back. These recent shows are flies feeding on the decaying corpse

[@nananamamana3591]

@@ritenac6770 Stop ruining the joke, Ted.

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

@@nananamamana3591 the joke was crap so it ruined itself

[@kinagrill]

and this is how a great franchise dies.... with stumbling Failure.

[@username45739]

@@ritenac6770 Yeah didn't it die in like 1983?

[@auto_mata]

I'm just sad they tried to say that Reva should have been more injured because it looked like Vader's stab may have gone through her lung. Don't they know humans have two lungs? It's so obvious!

[@bananaboi9067]

Awesome comment cows now have 4 lives vs a lightsaber

[@dianebrooks1859]

04:19:43 will never not be my favorite part. The silent disbelief at the incredulous trenchcoat scene followed by howls of laughter. It was my exact reaction as well XD

[@sirpepeofhousekek6741]

Someone *wrote that.*

[@NUTnCASE]

He's got four legs!

[@tahuluke6133]

@@sirpepeofhousekek6741 They planned that. They wrote that. They approved that. They filmed that. They approved that again. They didn't see anything wrong with that. They edited that. They released that. We were forced to witness that. How are these people allowed to do this insanity?

[@alexandermccabe429]

I talked to one of my friends about my problems with this show, when I brought up that the Inquisitors or Imperial Security Bureau should be exectuing the Organas, she only said that the Inquisitors only go after Jedi. Like they WOULDN'T INFORM ANY OTHER IMPERIAL DIVISION about TRAITORS

[@LN997-i8x]

They sure go after civilians a lot for an organization that only hunts Jedi.

[@GamingGardeningAndLayingSiege]

Nothing functions they way it should.

[@scienceviking4490]

Bail was hiding a Jedi. They'd interrogate him just to see if he knew the location of any other Jedi, and then they'd execute him as an example of what happens to people who harbor Jedi.

[@petriew2018]

@@scienceviking4490 It's Darth Fucking Vader, the Fist of the Emperor. As soon as gets any details from Reva, he doesn't need her tracking device bullshit. Take the Executor to Alderaan, summon Organa immediately, and tell him the fate of his planet relies on how quickly he can deliver the Jedi that's working for him for some reason. Then they'd make an example of him. THAT is how OG Darth Vader and the Empire from A New Hope would handle this situation.

[@dragonknightleader1]

Tarkin had a ten year old case and assumed that Alderaan was a nest of Jedi given how the Organa family acts toward Jedi. -Obi-wan and Leia were seen working with a proto-Rebel Alliance giving the Jedi witness protection services. -Bail was the one who contacted Obi-wan specifically to retrieve Leia because he wanted to keep the kidnapping secret. -Bail then sends a message that he will be the one to watch over the Lars homestead because Obi-wan couldn't be there. Extremely sus behavior to an Imperial prosecutor. Geez, Tarkin made a few assumptions of his own, but they were reasonable ones under exigent circumstances when he blew up the planet.

[@IcePhysicsGaming]

So, it occurred to me that in episode 3 Vader tells Obi "I am what you created" or something like that. But in the last one he says the literal opposite thing and says Obi Wan has no accountability for his origin. It's like the writers want it both ways or something, but that can't be right!

[@_Russ]

Luckily Vader is a minor character in the Star Wars Universe so the origin story is insignificant and doesn't matter /s

[@JekPorkbricks]

Wow did not notice that before but that's another thing that doesn't make sense indeed. "I am what you made me" and "You did not kill Anakin Skywalker, I did".

[@pumpernickelrye9736]

Oh, damn you're right. I guess this is what happens when writers focus more on emotional moments or cool sounding lines rather than a coherent plot.

[@unpopularopinions7407]

tbf i think i prefer the latter. i actually kinda like the idea that vader finds obi-wan’s genuine remorse condescending and is like “lol fuck off, i’m an adult, i make my own decisions”

[@dumdumer892]

I kinda agree about the latter explanation for Vader but I wish Vader had been able to explain it in some way that seemed less forgiving. I don’t know if everyone felt this way but Vader’s lines after the last fight with Kenobi seems almost forgiving. I think they wanted to give it a lighter note so that they could stick with the theme of absolving Kenobi of his past sins. It just felt weird for Vader to strike that tone.

[@JulianDoe]

Timestamps 0:00 Introduction to Part I 5:42 Part I Commentary 41:18 Opinions on Part I 1:00:37 Introduction to Part II 1:04:02 Part II Commentary 1:30:02 Opinions on Part II 1:44:47 Introduction to Part III 2:05:27 Part III Commentary 2:43:13 Opinions on Part III 3:18:06 Introduction to Part IV 3:26:42 Comment Showcase (1) 3:58:58 Part IV Commentary 4:24:40 Opinions on Part IV 4:43:20 Introduction to Part V 4:53:33 Comment Showcase (2) 5:07:00 Part V Commentary 5:41:07 Opinions on Part V 6:05:06 Introduction to Part VI 6:38:21 Part VI Commentary 7:20:56 Final Opinions 7:55:20 Super Special Secret Surprise Episode Comment Showcase 8:22:59 Bonus Clips

[@bilbobalboa1499]

Legend

[@erykrejner2528]

THIS should be pinned. Or in the description.

[@jameshale1740]

You’re doing God’s work

[@ThatDangerousWolf]

Needs to be pinned!

[@broisyougobbling]

THANK YOU KING

[@SweatiestDegree]

They're going to milk this to the point where when Vader said "a presence I've not felt since" he means last week...

[@thorwaldspolle7498]

"A presence I've not felt since... Monday!"

[@MetaFanWing]

Reminds me of what they did with Dooku in the Clone Wars.

[@icekid1275]

Bruh Fringy called Reva story from her first scene. And Mauler called Reva catching Leia on that tunnel and also that there was a reason Leia's droid attacked Reva. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@bananaboi9067]

Literally loved that part so much it was so predictable her backstory I saw I coming aswell but fringu literally nailed it EXACTLY. Wtf was her character and why is she not dead Vader is not so incompetent he can't kill someone with his lightsaber its kinda a speciality of his going around killing all the Jedi left alive.

[@sentient_typewriter]

I don't understand how people didn't get the whole Reva being the youngling at the beginning. It was framed later as a reveal or twist and that's insane it was so obvious 😂

[@anuragguria008]

In the next season Kenobi is living with the Tusken Raiders Tripping balls to make a Gaffi stick attacking a gun train putting an end to the spice trade

[@pond0479]

He finally got some death sticks.

[@dragonknightleader1]

-Bombs the Sarlaac pit. -Demands price controls on a water merchant in favor of a band of punks. -Rides a Rancor into battle.

[@HerohammerStudios]

@@dragonknightleader1 it's still hard to remember that that show wasn't just some fever dream... How the fuck do you write this?

[@Pink.andahalf]

Rewatching this, I'm struck by how the guys can't help but describe a better version of the show while watching.

[@KneelB4Bacon]

Vader and Kenobi are quipping at each other, like they do this fight every day. And they're just saying stupid obvious stuff like, "So. You have returned." I agree with Mauler when he says, "You can SAY something like that, but that should be one small line in a MUCH larger conversation." This is Darth Mf'ing Vader and Obi-wan Kenobi, who haven't seen each other in ten years. They should have much more to say to each other. Here's what Vader has to say during his fights with Obi-wan: "Did you truely think you could defeat me?" "You have failed." “You cannot run, Obi-Wan.” ... “I am what you made me.” ... “The years have made you weak. ... “Now you will suffer, Obi-Wan. ... “Bring him to me.” "Then you will die!" These are the kind of lines you would program into a Darth Vader action figure toy.

[@Phoenix0F8]

it's like the taunt lines in a boss fight that you wish you could mute or skip after you've been stuck on it several times in a row lol

[@Vario69]

Even League of Legends characters in-game have better set of lines 😂

[@eugenekrabs6400]

I LOVE that people say Vader couldn’t grab the ship because it was moving too fast, but the ship he does grab is already flying away and the one that is “moving too fast” is literally parked in front of him before it escapes. He’s got slower reaction speeds than the sloths from zootopia.

[@sparkypack]

Plot contrivance 100%

[@hassathunter2464]

I just can't believe they saw TROS and wanted to steal that horrible scene from there... like really, steal good content? Not things from the freakin Rise of Skywalker?

[@spiceboyog9083]

Also he can sense if people are in there. Part of the force is sensing those around you so he could tell if people are in there

[@rodrigoluz2040]

To anyone curious "Jump the Gun" refers to sports like track and field, where shooting a gun stars the race, so "jumpt the gun" would mean act prematurely

[@dragonknightleader1]

I do prefer people literally jumping their guns though.

[@sologamer3122]

@@dragonknightleader1 yeah that clip was pretty funny

[@ZombifiedGuitarist]

Been letting this play while I was out running errands and I came back to this inexplicable scene of Black Inquisitor lady, for lack of a better descriptor, INTERROGATING the tiny child Leia? ....Uhh....what does she hope to get from her? TELL ME YOUR SECRETS! Leia: I once stole candy from the candy store *sobs* and then, I blamed it on my frieeeennnndd. *sobs* And another time, I went out past my bedtime and *huffs* I didn't even tell my mom where I was goooooooinnngg!

[@karbonknight2278]

LOL the Chunk interrogation scene from The Goonies!

[@KelShu]

Watch Reva later be revealed as Finn's Mom

[@xpurplethighs7596]

AND MAYBE SHE'LL SAY A LINE THAT WE KNOW FINN SAYS AND ITLL BE A CIRCLE!

[@KelShu]

@@xpurplethighs7596 She'll just yell out her lover's name

[@xpurplethighs7596]

@@KelShu It RHYMES!!

[@sigmaarmstrong8460]

Nah. Modern, woke Disney is against female characters having male love interests, because that is patriarchy.

[@SatanLiterally]

@@xpurplethighs7596 I used to mop the floors on Tosche station, I know all about it - Reva Finnwalker

[@MsNovaris]

Man, the Expendables in space idea with Kenobi in disguise leading or working with a group of bounty hunters and intermittently using the force to remain secret is awesome!!! It's brings tears to my eyes it's never ever going to happen.

[@MsNovaris]

@Purple Emerald For real? What was the scenario?

[@rascoehunter3608]

@@MsNovaris in the Clone Wars arc that he is talking about Obi Wan faked his own death and then went undercover as a bounty hunter to stop a conspiracy to kidnap Palpatine.

[@rascoehunter3608]

@@MsNovaris it is Season 4 episodes 15-18.

[@echoesoftheancients5002]

"Expendables in space" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nananamamana3591]

I mean... it did. In the Clone Wars. Obi Wan literally fakes his death so he can use "Face Off" technology to pose as a bounty hunter, where he joins a bounty hunter team with rogue's gallery, which includes *everyone's **_FAVORITE_* bounty hunter ever, the coolest space cowboy *EVER* trust me, bro, Dave Filloni's INGENIUS original character that is, in *NO* way just Clint Eastwood in space -- Cad Bane! It was super cool and not at all basically plagiarized from half a dozen other, much better movies...

[@roglach4681]

Qui-gon basically showed up, said "Yo, what's up", refused to elaborate further and left.

[@blackdragoncyrus]

The disappointment saga, now in a complete Blu-Ray box set.

[@diazdelosmuertos1503]

I got the Canonbreaker’s Edition in 4K.

[@TheHardys01]

They do not have the BALLS to put out an Exclusively Disney Star Wars box set.

[@thefigure13]

Blu-Rey

[@creativecorner2071]

I’m glad I still have the blu-ray box set of the first 6 that were put out before Disney took over. I think it is even called “The Complete Saga” or something like that. To me, that is the only true version of Star Wars. Everything Disney has done with Star Wars more closely resembles Spaceballs, except not funny.

[@username45739]

@@creativecorner2071 Is that because you like the number 6 or something? What a random opinion.

[@kreese-yi2nb]

That show was infinitely more entertaining with your commentary, boys. Thank you EFAP!

[@kenXtripleI]

Only way to watch it

[@wafflingmean4477]

"I care more about the loader droid than her." That's because they didn't give it any dialogue.

[@liongus]

Meaning they had to do show don't tell for the droid. Which imo makes the whole of the series even worse because it showed that they were capable of making a relatable interesting character without a single line of dialogue and i hate everyone that talks in the series.

[@Tacti_cat]

LMAO

[@S4ns]

So let's do a character casualty checklist: Kenobi - a cowardly loser who lost connection to the Force and ditched his ONE job, protecting Luke, to go rescue Leia, who should have had the resources of an entire planet behind her, and in doing so, actually endangers Luke MORE by basically leading Reva right to him. Vader - Completely overpowered yet incompetent when plot needs to move forward. Also reduced to idiot status by leaving Reva alive. Leia - Turned into an annoying insufferable brat who somehow simultaneously is wise beyond her years yet also incredibly stupid when plot needs to happen. Reva - A completely unnecessary nothing one note character who has one setting: "screaming". Has a stupid plan that's executed in a stupid way with no payoff and we're forced to believe that she's now redeemed because she chose to NOT kill a small defenseless unconscious child. Luke - Oh, was Luke in this, I totally forgot, since this was the Reva and Leia Show, featuring Jake Kenobi. Owen and Beru - morons who stay to fight a Sith Inquisitor with a rifle and sticks. Bail Organa - turned into a MASSIVE idiot by getting Kenobi to rescue Leia instead of, as stated, USING HIS INCREDIBLE RESOURCES AS KING OF A PLANET AND SITTING IMEPRIAL SENATOR. Also, needs to break communication protocol and endanger Luke because plot needs to happen. The Inquisitors - made into goofy caricatures. Stormtroopers - completely useless in every regard and can easily be stopped by slapping them and can't recognize that a person is hiding a small child in a trenchcoat. Aside from that, the lighting is terrible, the editing is terrible, the shaky cam is beyond annoying, the dialgoue is cringe, the acting is half-assed, the writers need to be minecrafted, Disney is horrid, LucasFilm is a mess, and Star Wars is dead. The Diznoids that slurp up this slop and clap like braindead zombies because "reference" happened are the worst thing to happen to media.

[@jaysimpson3920]

Yeah that's sadly 100% true.

[@andrewconrad2859]

Fantastic comment. Great summary.

[@MegaSpideyman]

I'm not sure Bail's a King, I've never heard him referred to that way. You could be right, though, if Leia is a Princess. I agree with everything else you say.

[@Jay_Perrotta]

👏👏

[@RampantDaydream]

Brilliant summary.

[@Quetzalcoatlus100]

Taking vader's stance at the end. "Kenobi means nothing", then summarily forget this happened. Then return to the OT with exact mindset that this show never happened.

[@chromicm6686]

"I wonder if your feelings are quite clear on this my friend."

[@TurKlack]

You know the worst thing about the Tatooine Scenes, all of them, throughout the Disney Shows, is that it is presented as if it's an anarchy. Think about Tatooine as presented in the movies. Under Jabbas rule Tatooine became a place were different kinds of people could hide from a Republic, a Federation or an Empire. While the citizens of Tatooine did buy, sell, use slaves the living standards for Slaves on tatooine are surprisingly high. A Mother and her Child worked, got paid, could not only buy the necessities for survival, but also luxury goods, like the Droid parts with which the boy created a certain Protocoll Droid they could freely move in the City of Mos Eisley. They had their own house just for themselves, and from the little interactions we have seen the Tatooinians are surprisingly helpful. Many Filoni fanbois keep thinking that Jabba is evil and that he'd rule over the poor denizens of Tatooine with fear and violance. That's factually wrong.

[@zacharyhobia159]

@Pinko Slink Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?

[@gaelstromproductions]

Eh, just don't let the discussion degenerate. Discussing slavery from a historical and economic standpoint is not wrong, otherwise it just becomes denying world history and places us at risk of repeating past mistakes. And in that same vein acknowledging realities about slavery's benefits to economies in worldbuilding of a story is equally as important otherwise you have the clusterfuck that is Book of Boba Fett where we're told bad things are occurring, but effectively none of those bad things are shown happening and it becomes ludicrous. You can intelligently and reasonably discuss slavery's presence in history and stories and what it does to a society and economy without condoning slavery as a concept.

[@jonsimpson6240]

@Pinko Slink there is a lot wrong with slavery, and practically all civilizations have used it.

[@gaelstromproductions]

@Pinko Slink I'd actually say that's true if you mean dictated morality as opposed to perspective based morality, since the real reason slavery is disappearing is because as humanity has evolved in consciousness they realize that the workforce becomes more effective if they are incentivized and more is accomplished. So 'morality' (or more accurately the realization that harming people doesn't actually lead to long term benefit ala WWI leading to WWII) is something that we are steadily growing into as a species and as we understand consciousness and perspective more. With the increase in perspective which allows us as people to empathize with enemies, the idea of slavery being a viable approach falters. Especially since even the Romans realized that while slavery was an option, integration was far superior to let people keep their autonomy and culture so they retained happiness and just became taxable vassals of the empire rather than become slaves. Slavery was more of a last resort as opposed to the intent for a conquered peoples to the most intelligent civilizations contrary to movie and book portrayals. It's like Indentured Servants has been forgotten as a concept. Plus our perception on slaves has been inaccurate, to the OP's point. The pyramids weren't assembled by slaves who were forced to do it alone, at the time there was a true belief present in the godhood of the pharoahs and to work on it was an honor of a lifetime, even to sacrifice one's life in the building. So without going into ridiculous detail, long story short slavery has evolved out of the more stable places in the planet because true morality has been built based on perspective based empathy, not dictated doctrinal morality which isn't real.

[@jonsimpson6240]

@Pinko Slink the moral issues behind slavery are too numerous to list. But there are practical issues with it as well. It is more efficient to pay workers a wage and allow them to look after their owns housing/food/amenities/entertainment than it is to manually look after it. A paid worker is more motivated and effective at their job than a slave, especially if they get a pay or benefits incentive for production. With slavery, there is basically only stick the carrot option is pretty much off the table. And it's not that slaves revolt sometimes, it's that they always revolt. You have to be ready for a revolt always, addi to the cost of keeping slaves. It's a bit like paying for snow removal, you have to pay for it all year, even if you don't end up getting snow, because if you don't and the snow shows up you get fucked.

[@SatanLiterally]

1:46:10 Regarding Darth Vader extracting thoughts from Luke, that seems much more passive than what we see in the Force Awakens. In Return of the Jedi, it's almost like Vader overhears Luke's thought. "Your thoughts betray you." That implies Luke is actively thinking about his friends, in particular Leia, and Vader is simply picking up on that through the Force. Whereas in the Force Awakens, Kylo Ren and Rey are using the Force to actively pull thoughts and information from each other's minds. I think the former works better because a disciplined individual, which arguably Luke is not at that point, would keep their mind clear and thus avoid being goaded into striking out in anger. It makes for a better blance of powers if Sith can sense powerful emotion but a well-trained Jedi can mask their emotion.

[@Xeno_Solarus]

On top of that, there's the further connection of Vader being Luke's father, and I'm not super knowledgable about Star Wars lore, but perhaps that also adds to it.

[@oXRaptorzXo]

I like that they function differently. Vader is way stronger and so will overhear thoughts, while Kylo and Rey had to forcibly take them

[@SatanLiterally]

​@@oXRaptorzXo nah that's weak. Being able to pull specific thoughts out of someone's head at will is way more powerful than just "overhearing" them passively. Shit Disney Star Wars is shit.

[@oXRaptorzXo]

@@SatanLiterally What I was saying is Rey would have to focus really hard while it’s effortless for vader

[@SatanLiterally]

​@@oXRaptorzXo it's better as a passive power. It's one thing if they can sense thoughts someone is having while under great stress, it's another if they can just pull them out. It becomes a question of why don't Sith just mind rape everyone they need information from? Why bother with the rigamorale of interrogation?

[@itbesilly4544]

"When the time comes, he must be trained" Luke's 10 years old, he should have started Jedi training 5 years ago if Obi-Wan wanted to train him, artificial conflict for pointless drama.

[@sparkypack]

Remember, Rey Palpi didn't even need training.

[@thefigure13]

Issue with that was Owen didn’t want to let him. The conflict was between Owen and Ben

[@mysterymastermind175]

@@thefigure13 Woulda been nice if we spent more than 3 lines on that conflict

[@storytellingchampion6438]

I mean, they can make an exception during unusual circumstances. Anakin wasn't 5 when he started training. Obi-Wan could definitely still train 10 year old Luke.

[@Manostion]

@@storytellingchampion6438 Anakin was "too old" when he started his training and if Obi-Wan hadn't promised Qui Gon and then threatened the council that he'd train him with or without their consent, he wouldn't have been trained. And since he was too old and Qui Gon wasn't around, it led to Darth fucking Vader existing. So, all in all, that wasn't the best example. Yes, Anakin was still trained despite being too old, but everyone considered it a mistake, including Obi-Wan, and "when he's old enough" makes zero sense for him to say. What's more is that Obi-Wan was never gonna train him to begin with, just keep watch over him. Only when Leia reached out to him and the Owens got roasted by the Empire did Obi-Wan decide to train Luke after all. In short: Obi-Wan would not have said that the boy needs his training once he's old enough.

[@Medaumplay3]

It's amazing how early they just guessed the entirety of Reeva's plotline

[@andrewconrad2859]

Gary from Nerdrotic has talked a lot about how Wokeness limits the scope of storytelling to such an extent that certain characters only ever have a small handful of possible arcs. The EFAP guys have seen the ramifications of these limitations plenty enough by now to make educated guesses.

[@akashajones6079]

​@@andrewconrad2859Reeva's storyline isn't woke though, it's just been done a million times before.

[@SolarDragon007]

@@akashajones6079 It's one of the lamest and most un-compelling versions of that type of story.

[@RM_VFX]

That RLM review was one of the most disappointing things they've ever done. Thank you all for giving this the treatment it deserves.

[@Daxinar]

Mike and Rich's brains were on vacation for that one. Jay seemed as confused as we were.

[@SangheiliSpecOp]

​@@Daxinar Their brains were indeed on vacation, they were stuck inside the high on life movie theater probably

[@madcapmakov2]

They went soft

[@lordvarrax5060]

Tiny tidbit of Star Wars lore: Jabiim is possibly the stupidest planet to have a Jedi resistance network on. Why, you may ask? Well, it may have something to do with the fact that the Jedi decided to lead an army there and brutally crush all dissent after the legitimate planetary government chose to join the Separatists and declare independence from the Republic. So Jedi would basically be seen as warmongers and war criminals on Jabiim- probably not the ideal place to make a secret Jedi hideout.

[@sologamer3122]

True but if it's secret (at least in theory so bear with me) sometimes the best place to hide is in plain sight so it could work. I could be wrong but it's not totally impossible.

[@SolarDragon007]

God, the Clone Wars comics were so much better than the CGI show.

[@BlargeMan]

Justified intervention honestly, if the Separatists were going to use that place for any significant economic or military purpose. The Separatist movement was a poison pill of unrestrained kleptocratic corporatism sponsored by some of the galaxy's biggest conglomerates.

[@timetogeaux5149]

You know what could have been an amazing story for the Empire side of this universe? Have the Organas turn to the Empire when Leia is kidnapped and be taken seriously. We could follow the officer and their squad in charge of the case and see them taking great care with Bail because he's a very high ranking member of their government. Maybe they get slogged down in red tape because the Inquisitors are behind this, and they have to decide if its worth breaking the chain of command to rescue a little girl.

[@davidmendez3899]

Ben “when the time comes, he must be trained!” Owen “like you trained for the past 10 years?” there is absolutely no consistency with Kenobi in his show but the fans will swear up and down that he’s well written here. “he’s conflicted with his ideology!” no, he’s just poorly written.

[@RogueFox2185]

The only character they did right by was Owen, he was the most sensible person in this entire show.

[@LN997-i8x]

It's the Kylo Effect all over again.

[@petriew2018]

well, they'll swear it's well written for a week, and then a month from now they won't remember what happened in a given episode if quizzed for details... pretty much nobody will ever watch this a second time, but they'll still give it a 8/10

[@dragonknightleader1]

@@RogueFox2185 Yep, the best character is a straight White man who's married. Which was not what these writers were planning on.

[@TheMaleRei]

@@RogueFox2185 Uncle Owen: Paraphrased to Reva - "LUKE *IS* MY SON!"

[@scienceviking4490]

It really isn't possible for the fact that Vader is Anakin to have been public knowledge. If it was public knowledge, Leia would have known, since she was a member of the imperial Senate. If Leia knew, she would have almost certainly mentioned it to Luke at some point during the years between A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back, especially since Luke has the same last name as Anakin. The fact that Luke had no idea in Empire makes it pretty clear that it wasn't widely known.

[@bertimusprime7900]

Iirc the inquisitors in the original EU were more like super undercover force spy assassins. They didn’t have uniforms, or military ranks, they just had secret ISB and Emperor support. Filoni is the one that turned them into cartoon villains.

[@HerohammerStudios]

Oh, that actually makes sense. Glad they changed it...

[@DemonicRemption]

@bertimusprime7900 So lemme get this straight. What we're given in this "show" are bootleg Inquisitors? Lord no wonder y'all hate what Disney's done to Star Wars.

[@boomer.beasley]

​@@DemonicRemption 80% with Walt Disney is done or direct rip-offs of the EU. As someone who is a fan of the EU, I became more and more jaded as they ripped off more and more things by making them shit. Disney has not had a unique idea with any of their products. (Andor was good, but also I rip off of an EU book.)

[@davidgonzales8970]

Given Disney's track record, I'm honestly SHOCKED that this show didn't take the opportunity to shit all over Luke, again. That seems to be the only thing they can be counted on to do at this point.

[@RogueFox2185]

They did but in a subtle way with that one frame of Luke in Kenobi’s final flashback, like Bail himself said: “It’s not about the boy and you know it!”

[@eugenekrabs6400]

They did make it so that he’s already seen a lightsaber before a new hope so the scene where Obi Wan shows him his father’s weapon is now just a little worse.

[@petriew2018]

Old habits die hard. Luke's well wihin the age range most Disney execs have a 'soft spot' for....

[@Сайтамен]

In original script he was the child and then they replaced him with Leia because it was "too much like the Mandalorian"...even though they already have Ahsoka and Omega...

[@ThePessimisticTech-Priest]

Oh I'm sure there is a deleted scene where Luke falls face first into a pile of Bantha shit while running away. Then a random Jawa comes up and kicks him in the balls because why not.

[@EpicJasonX9000]

Disney Wars is now on the same level as Rob Zombie's Halloween II, where they labeled an axe as a fire extinguisher.

[@kenXtripleI]

Well they have one thing in common... they both rely on shakey cam

[@kinagrill]

I mean if you try hard enough you CAN extinguish a fire wit han Axe.

[@solarsailer4166]

Mulch. That's a good descriptor. Mulch riddled with the seeds of weeds for a garden no one wanted. If Reva's whole plan was to kill Vader, where the hell was she in Ep3 when Vader was wandering around after Kenobi? Why was she still tracking Leia through the tunnel? Why wasn't she stalking Vader waiting for the opportunity to finally end him? Oh right, that objective doesn't exist until Ep 6.

[@petriew2018]

why is she somehow almost 30 when she'd have to be no older than 18 for the timeline of her life to make any sense? That's how little actual thought went into this writing...

[@solarsailer4166]

@@petriew2018 Agreed. But you see, maths be hard. :P

[@SamiClemens]

How can Obi-Wan train Luke, which he says must be done when he’s of age, if he doesn’t have any connection to the force anymore?

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

"Look, he gets his powers back and trains the boy." -disnoids

[@jcore0981]

My working theory is that scene was shot specifically for the trailer just to drum up interest. The scene basically plays out the exact same in both the show and trailer. Which is why it feels so disjointed from the rest of the show and themes.

[@TheMandaloreFett]

To be fair. He was still a Jedi Master, he still has the knowledge to train and guide in the ways of the Force. That being said, the show is still sadly and objectively not very good.

[@jcore0981]

@@TheMandaloreFett Yeah but when the young Jedi kid comes for help he basically says, fuck off I can't help you, the Jedi are dead. That doesn't really seem like the attitude of someone looking to train.

[@TheMandaloreFett]

@@jcore0981 That is unrelated. Completely.

[@KayronTheFifth]

How did the story-writers forget Obi-Wan knows Darth is *Anakin? It is in the recap that THEY show! *First response loosely corrected me and second response directly corrected me. If only they had 3 writers/an assistant writer.

[@GhostLink92]

I think the idea was that he assumed Anakin/Vader died on Mustafar. Which is ludicrous, because you'd think he'd hear whispers of the Emperor's enforcer across the Galaxy for a decade. As soon as he hears his name dropped, he should know Anakin's alive. Hell, even without concrete proof, he should just assume that's the case. It just makes his decision to spare him a second time even worse. Edit: he doesn't even seem fazed by the existence of the Inquisitors, so if he's aware of who they are and what they do, he must know Vader is alive.

[@KayronTheFifth]

@Kirby Thank you, it didn't occur to me to check the video and I couldn't find it with a quick search. Also, I wasn't paid to write that comment, the show-writers/producers (plural) at Disney were paid to write and make theirs.

[@gakon8154]

Even better question: how did the actor of Kenobi forget that? I mean he was actually saying it.

[@dark_fire_ice]

Real life comparison of Aunt Beru: UO; they're sending a Tiger Tank AB; we've got a slingshot and a wine bottle, we can't lose

[@Dave_McKansas]

I counted 8 Lightsabers in the box. So there are at least 8 other trained Jedi in the space port and NOBODY gets their weapon to fight the Stormtroopers. Spectacular.

[@ProjectRedfoot]

It was actually 7 lightsabers & a massage wand

[@BlargeMan]

I don't think that implied all 8 were in there, just that 8 had come through at one point or another and left their sabers behind.

[@RogueFox2185]

Obi-Wan has become the Joel of Star Wars except unlike the meme, everything is actually his fault after EP6 due to him being such a moral coward.

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

But Joel still killed starwars right?? JustWrong cannot be.......incorrect.

[@prestigemultimediagroup6436]

Murdering an opponent in cold blood after they are defeated is NOT THE FUCKING JEDI WAY FFS STOP BEING SO FUCKING STUPID THATS WHAT VADER WOULD DO NOT OBI WAN OR ANY LEGIT JEDI KNIGHT LET ALONE MASTER AND COUNCIL MEMBER jesus christ im so sick of you people making thisnarguement out of everything that was the most jedi thing obitwo does in this show so ffs stop being so rageful

[@KelShu]

Is there any reason why the Organas couldn't get the Empire to help rescue Leia?

[@gingeranagram2467]

Absolutely none

[@DerichndofCoomland]

Because the "plot" needs to happen.

[@matthewcollins4773]

Because the modern writers ignore or don't understand the nuances. They know that Empire = evil, Organas = good, and so the fact that the Organas are part of the empire doesn't seem to compute for them.

[@randomperson-up5vt]

It would be logical and that is not allowed

[@petriew2018]

no good ones, no.

[@inferior3199]

Actually couldn't have Luke found out about Jedi since the Inquisitors did land on his planet announcing they are hunting for them. That would be the talk of the town. His friends would have gossiped about it.

[@burnypython8230]

So we have Star Wars: A Droid Story and a Reva spin off announced. Here are a list of ideas of Star Wars Spin Off Series: Binks Jettster Frik Book of Phasma Holdo: A Star Wars Story Ewoks: A Star Wars Story The Legend of Rose

[@commontwodrop]

I think we all need more Frik

[@matthewcollins4773]

We'd all hate a Rose series, but we cannot win by fighting what we hate, and so we must accept it.

[@apocryphicdeath]

Only if Jettster is an underworld crime boss hell bent on ensuring his diner franchise stays #1 and keeping the secret ingredient of the Mon Calamari burger safely hidden.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

I'd rather see more of Bea Arthur and her Tatooine bar than any of those.

[@Сайтамен]

By the way, in the trailer for Mando season 3 they brought BABU FRIK back! YAAAY!

[@sapheiron]

"The dark side is a pathway to many abilities, like butter spread over too much bread." Bilb Backwalker

[@otameal]

Bilbobi Wan?

[@MegaSpideyman]

What's the story with the Bilbo memes?

[@sapheiron]

​@@MegaSpideyman It's a reference to this moment from EFAP #21: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpezgHysbq9ljaM

[@ziplockcreations2313]

I can see the writer's room now.... How do we get to the next scene? Someone's stupidity. How do we get to the next scene? Someone else's stupidity. How do we get to the next scene? Already there, just keep moving. How do we get to the next scene? I don't wanna do this anymore. How do we get to the next scene? Uhhhhh Mulligan. How do we get to the next scene? I said Mulligan!

[@TheMaleRei]

We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!

[@SRow_Plays_Games]

Disney doesn't understand silence. Dark Vader wasn't scary because he spent hours telling us he was scary. The same was true of the emperor (previously). Telling someone your scary and intimidating just tells us your insecure and trying to project strength you don't have!!

[@TecTitan]

The only thing that cheapens the "he is my own" line is the way Reeva has to laboriously set it up for him with her line before it.

[@luxanmusic]

I'm convinced this show wasn't written by a human being. Disney fed the original movie script into an algorithm that pooped out 6 TV episodes, and they just filmed whatever was in them.

[@harry426]

6:59:10 "That is why you will always lose." He literally won the Mustafar fight against Anakin and left him for dead...

[@kennethcrist443]

If Third Sister's plan was to use Bail Oragna to find Obi-Wan by kidnapping Leia hoping that Bail would contact Obi-Wan, how was Bail allowed to travel to Tatooine without being detected? A hooded cloak? He should have been under surveillance by both mechanical devices and by living agents. He is not a trained undercover operative that knows how to evade surveillance.

[@JFresh9]

I'm at a Amazon warehouse listening to this, seething at how this show SHOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD. At least your guys commentary helped me get through 12 hours. You guys are awesome.

[@EpicJasonX9000]

if you slowed the footage down, you can see that Obi Wan's lightsaber is doing zero damage to the Stormtroopers armor. Disney Wars is so bad that they can't even show the damage being down by a lightsaber swing.

[@adambreen1615]

This show seems like a subtle fuck you to Luke. Defeating Vader doesn’t seem like a big deal now. Or at least kanobi didn’t think so. Even though, if he did kill Vader he wouldn’t have had anywhere near the threat to Luke’s life. Making his job on Tatooine a fuck tonne easer.

[@wafflingmean4477]

Instead of trying to appeal to Reeva's better nature Kenobi should have just said "I'm going to rat you out the second Vader gets here. He knows I'm not a liar. Your only option is to help me."

[@DeepEye1994]

TV Tropes' excuse for not riddling this show with a lengthy "continuity snarl" section? "Well, Leia meeting with Obi-Wan now explains why she names her son Ben!" And they also think the duel scenes are good.

[@grandarkfang_1482]

TV Tropes has stupid people working on their website, we know this already.

[@reverendrico5631]

The actual reason, Ben was Luke’s son in the EU and Disney just rips off the EU and does it in an inferior manner.

[@baileylanore]

Another thing to counteract that point is that it could have been that Han chose the name, as he interacted with Kenobi more in A New Hope than Leia ever did

[@BluePhoenix_]

@@reverendrico5631 while also claiming there is no source material

[@ProjectRedfoot]

Rittling*

[@rudecanadian1412]

It's funny how obi wan went from killing Darth Maul just because he learned obi wan was protecting someone. But Reva, (someone who up to this point is still an inquisitor) literally almost kills Luke but obi wan decides this one he'll let live? what you're that confident she wont tell anyone, or that the empire won't try to capture and interrogate her for information. Obi wan would never have taken that risk but since it's modern star wars the only people who are allowed to die now are faceless stormtroopers.

[@alfredvickers4054]

I like how in the beginning of the first episode, you all seemed hopeful. Like, "that's not too bad" or "that's a nice idea." You had no idea how far this show would fall. Lol

[@jawnkwan956]

Kenobi himself states that he had not gone by the name Obi-Wan in a long, long time, since before Luke was born for that matter.

[@archstanton9073]

I love when Mauler says "Who's fault is that?!" and there's like 10 seconds of silence at the end.

[@Ultimaterockmanx135]

I swear from EP 9 all the way to this series is meant to be a parody. Thinking disney is trolling everyone they know their drones will defend it regardless.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

It's been a late April Fool's Day joke since Poe did a ‘Your mama’ joke.

[@chriscross8547]

I love how Fringy immediately, accurately guesses what Reba's deal is as a character, but it still gives him pause because it makes so sense. I thought something similar XD

[@KelShu]

Don't worry, we'll learn more about Wade in the Andor series

[@sparkypack]

ugh.. 😩 why can't they just produce an enclosed story?

[@ritenac6770]

I just realised, if the inquisitors hold the dead bodies of Jedi at their HQ (including child padawans) then why the hell did they leave the guy from episode 1 dangling in Tatooine? Either those other Jedi are in stasis and that’s going to be a dumb plot point for future series, or they left him as a pointless warning not to harbour Jedi when they already showed the consequences by cutting off a hand and nearly murdering a guy with a knife. Or the writers just had them do something against protocol to give Obi-Wan guilt

[@jbonify]

Happy Forth of July to all the EFAP audience, heartfelt from Americaland!

[@johncra8982]

a few years back I was about to start working in LA as a talent agent but opted against it at the last minute. sometimes I wonder about what it would've been like if I'd followed through but shit like kenobi makes me realize I made the right choice, bc if I had to manage the kinds of morons that make this garbage and then get rewarded handsomely for it, I would've lost my mind and become a drug addict or something.

[@add_some_air7475]

I agree with Vader being tried for war war crimes because the same happens to Megatron in the "More Than Meets The Eye" and sequal "Lost Light" comic book series. After spending time with the crew of the Lost Light and being redeemed in the eyes of the main crew members and readers eyes he still faces trial and the best we are told is that he could face either life in maximum security prison or execution. The reader is not told what happend but based on context clues I belive he was killed for the millions of lives he took and ordered to be killed.

[@ainotto9551]

Obi-Wan is trying to contact a force ghost,and he lost his touch to the force, ah, of course, why wouldn't he.

[@UltraKardas]

The only way the writing could salvage that... is with a retcon. Obi-Wan should have been given a near impossible task during his training with Qui-gon. Like having to confront the reality of Vader. The fact his apprentice survived, only to kill countless people; and to be able to carry that burden, even beyond death. It should have shown Obi-wan doubting himself in his isolation and that doubt leading him to fail the training, and struggle for a time. Later by his acceptance of his failures, he gets the strength to persist. That strength and determination helping carry him on past the failures of his body and even past his own death.

[@HerohammerStudios]

@@UltraKardas random people in youtube comments are 1000% more qualified than 'professional writers' at this point. It's insane

[@austinwoods466]

Bonus content was a treat. EFAP's killing it. Can't wait for Ep 200!

[@godpigeon]

They seemed to have made Vader evil for evil's sake. Sure he used killing/torture of those under him to keep discipline, but he wasn't the one to order the destruction of a populated planet.

[@atomicdancer]

Dear EFAP Team, You are wise, discerning, kindhearted... These are qualities that came from MauLer. But you are also passionate and fearless, forthright... And these are gifts from Rags. Both are exceptional people, who bore an exceptional podcast. May the Don bless and protect you... and may the EFAP be with you, always. 🖖

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Just finished this and all I got to say is this: This is what happens when the marketing department and/or the finance department makes a TV show.

[@regis1077]

Me:"Watches EFAP day one" EFAP: "Reuploads full mini's" Me: *Wat'cha bring me?*

[@archstanton9073]

To save everyone some time, there's no "What did you bring me?" supercut at the end due to laziness, I guess.

[@skits_3d824]

I just found out what Palpatine did to the jedi archives. I googled this and in a year the archives were ransacked and destroyed. HOW does Reva still have that information between Bail and Obiwan if the archives were destroyed when she was still a kid, is a mystery to me. The only three people that broke into the jedi archives would have been Obi, Yoda, and Jocasta Nu. Jocasta was chased by a full suited Vader into the temple and stole some of the jedi archives. Btw Jocasta dies because she knew Vader's secret

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Actually, the comics have both Vader and the Grand Inquisitor looking into the Jedi Archives when Jocasta was infiltrating them. But this just opens up a bigger can of worms.

[@Warmaka]

the books played dead and survived, is my guess.

[@Matty-pn9fy]

I remember the battlefront two level where the archives are destroyed

[@TheAdarkerglow]

Vader should get his plans stifled by Obi Wan and say, "This is all Obi Wan's fault!" and then Obi Wan steals his droids, so Vader says, "You've turned them against me!" but actually it was because Vader mistreated them, so Obi Wan says "You have done that yourself!" and then later they face off in a swamp, and Obi Wan finds a spot that isn't submerged so he can move around easier, and he says, "It's over, I have the dry ground!" but vader says 'don't underestimate my power!" and then falls over. it's super smart.

[@ProjectRedfoot]

switch to decaf lol

[@HerohammerStudios]

No one would write that, come on.

[@tahuluke6133]

@@HerohammerStudios I hope you know they're joking, come on.

[@HerohammerStudios]

​​@@tahuluke6133 I hope you know I was joking, come on. All of these are lines taken from an actual movie, so saying no one would write that was a joke, you smelly zoomer....

[@sapheiron]

Stabbing someone straight through the stomach with the blade coming out the other side severs the spine. No one is paralyzed despite having their spine severed.

[@SatanLiterally]

They have two stomachs bro, relax

[@sapheiron]

​@@SatanLiterally Oh right, I forgot.

[@drunkencowboyagni]

no bro it makes sense they have 2 spines

[@HerohammerStudios]

@@sapheiron it shouldn't even have to be said.

[@sonicrush44]

No, no, no, you all go it all wrong. Thay have 2 sets of intestines that makes 4 different intestinal tracts, 2 stomachs one of which being called the squeedillyspooch, 2 main lungs plus an extra lung behind the second lung, and four spines connected to one spine inside the main spine. I thought everyone knew that.

[@kngt_ldr9853]

Show: "See, the last scene between Vader and Obi absolves Obi of the horrors and death Vader caused!" Except Obi sparing Vader makes him responsible for every horror and death Vader causes from then on... At least in RoTS he left Anakin for dead so Vader wasn't really his fault, now though? Absolutely his fault.

[@Mytelefe]

Jedi separated a child from its mother leaving her to die in SLAVERY then completely botched the training of said child all the while knowing it was very risky thing to do. Left Anakin to fend for himself vs sith lord then put all the blame on him used his pregnant lover with complete disregard for her well being then mutilated him leaving him to die in agony. On top of that later training and indoctrinating Anakins children in order to kill him.

[@petriew2018]

@@Mytelefe this would all be true to someone who hasn't actually seen the prequels. Anakin was not exactly an angel by nature, a big reason his training was 'botched' was because of his own inner demons that he couldn't, or wouldn't, face honestly. This left him a prime target for Palpatine, who also played a big role in his fall from proverbial grace. There's also a big argument to be made that Qui-Gon's ultimately at fault for insisting he be trained as a Jedi in the first place, in spite of he fact he may not have been up to the pressures of it, because of his pre-existing emotional attachments that ultimately undermined his training in the first place. Blaming Darth Vader solely on Obi-Wan or the Jedi is the kind of simplistic nonsense Disney would like you to believe so they don't have to deal with the kind of complex storytelling they don't want to pay a professional to write. Darth Vader is the end result of choices Anakin made, knowing full well he was headed down the road of darkness.

[@nont18411]

@@petriew2018 Plus, Anakin’s main motive of getting more power aside of saving Padme is to rule the empire and free the slaves, right? He ended up enslaving way more people during his reign and it’s not the Jedi’s fault.

[@chromicm6686]

@@petriew2018 I disagree, the Jedi council are squarely to blame for Anakins fate. Qui-gon was right to have him trained, can you imagine how an insanely powerful, vengeful child prodigy would turn out on his own on Tatooine, without any guidance in slavery? He would have become Angron Under a decent father figure like Qui-gon he would have probably become a decent person, but after he died and no other Jedi were willing to step up and give him paternal affection the only father figure he had was creamy sheev. Realisticaly what was going to happen when they shunned him as a problem or outsider and ignored his fears for years, all while palpatine treated him as the son he never had? Even better when they told him to let his wife and kids die while palps gave him a way out.

[@petriew2018]

@@chromicm6686 uh-huh, you disagreeing means little when you explain that it's based on really terrible reasoning... Anakin as an untrained, ignorant 'child prodigy' is not dangerous, because this isn't Disney Star Wars yet were training is purely optional. What would Anakin have done without training? i mean, this was back when the force had rules, so the most likely scenario is he'd have lived and died in anonymity on a planet the Galaxy had long since forgotten. Tragic end? sure.... but less tragic than what happened when he did get trained... You're assuming Qui-Gon would have been a great father figure, but once again this is an assumption that flies in the face of what you were actually shown. Qui-Gon's motivation was a vague prophecy, the belief in which may have over-ridden his better judgement. Clearly there is a good reason why you don't train children like Anakin, children who you do have to force to leave the families behind. Anakin himself demonstrated why there is, in fact, some wisdom in that practice. This blind assumption that Qui-Gon was somehow automatically in the right is a mistake a lot of people make, but is contradicted by the film itself. He was not motivated by concern for Anakin, his motivation was blind faith. realistically the only conclusion you can draw from the film is that Anakin was doomed from the start.... which, i mean, duh, that was the whole fucking point of the story from the get go. Lucas said as much, he was written to be a tragic figure. Every step of the way Anakin is shown to be aware of what he's doing. He struggles with his emotions, he knows when he's doing something he shouldn't. He has he reasons for doing them, but you have to be a complete idiot to convince yourself he's just an innocent victim in any of this. And before it even comes up, i don't give a flying fuck about what gets retconned in 'the clone wars'. The continuity in that show is dogshit no matter what it made you feel.

[@chillmanchan3829]

This whole 8 hours is gold.

[@rodrigoluz2040]

It's funny when Beru starts talking as Owen climbs the stairs and he slows down with a "here she goes again..." face expression

[@morganlippincott1494]

Did the writers think that the first interaction between Owen and Reva was a good setup for the finale? The only way it works is from a totally meta perspective if you've already watched the whole show because in-Universe it just establishes Reva as nothing more than a Saturday morning cartoon villain, just like every other in Disney Star Wars.

[@zak7an2]

you know who did the "I have a huge weapon i can use to my advantage so i will open the fight with that" right? fucking Sans

[@spooplegeist5260]

It's pretty incredible how every planet they visit in this show looks exactly like southern California.

[@williamframe2317]

I wonder if series two will have a time jump to clear the deck for next series of amazing adventures of, Bob Kenobi king of the desert.

[@TheTriforceDragon]

The funny part about the whole Bounty Hunter discussion near the end of ep 1, there is a series of 4 Clone War's episodes where Obi-Wan goes undercover as a Bounty Hunter because Count Dooku is hiring Bounty Hunter's for a scheme and he is chosen to infiltrate it. Rako Hardeen is his undercover identity, a Bounty Hunter specialized in sniping his targets from afar (cause guess what, force abilities like enhanced reflexes and precog are pretty handy for a sniper). Also just to add some more context, Obi-Wan is the one chosen to go undercover because they fake his death and Anakin is not in on the ruse. This is because Anakin's reaction is what is considered important to sell the idea that Obi-Wan is dead. This also ends up being another push for Anakin's mistrust of the Jedi Order once the ruse is revealed. I would even say they are some of shows better episodes. And if Obi-Wan has to go off rescuing Leia and takes up a fake identity as a Bounty Hunter you could call back to how he did it once before? I mean they do love their call backs and at least if he is undercover it is, if only slightly, more believable.

[@billyb1996]

My favorties bits were the backflip, the "have you come here to kill me?" and the chasing leia scenes!

[@thefigure13]

They really needed to give Reeva the Count Dooku treatment

[@sakkra93]

There was once a time when Sith would murder their peers for such blatant disrespect. I miss those times.

[@GaidenFreak]

Mauler must have love in his heart for the colonies giving them this beautiful RLM bonus at the end on the weekend they celebrate our interdependence. Hail Mauler! I mean death to tyrants but thanks!!

[@sparkypack]

🦅 Happy American tisms 🦅

[@haku8135]

"they hunt anyone who's force sensitive" I thought EVERYONE could use the force? That's a major theme of all of disney star wars.

[@danielwilliams7562]

The dialogue at 29:18 is something straight from a Neil Breen movie. That's the level of quality Disney has brought to the table for their multibillion dollar property