Testing The Historicity Of Romans | Paul

[@asadullahsaaid3794]

*Timestamps:* 00:00 - Intro 01:22 - EF Dawah Panel joins 01:50 - Today's Topic 02:17 - Analysis & Historicity of Romans 05:44 - Affirming Paul's Authorship of Romans 06:37 - Scrutinizing the content of Romans 10:20 - Meaning of Jesus' appointment as the Son of God in Romans 11:45 - Issues with Paul's teaching & apostleship 13:13 - Paul equating the Law with Trap & Death 15:20 - Paul contradicting himself about keeping the law 16:29 - Problems with the Christian concept of Sin & nature of humans 18:32 - Issues with Christian concept of being Righteous 20:16 - Analysis of Paul's intent of writing the letter 22:04 - Paul's paradoxical teaching about being Righteous & Saved 25:02 - Impact of Romans on Christian theology 25:53 - Inviting christians to join together 26:40 - *David & Frank join* 27:30 - Frank's view of Romans 28:08 - Frank's view of the Law being a Trap 29:22 - Frank equates Forgiveness with Debt 30:48 - Frank's absurd claims about God 35:20 - Can Humans harm or benefit God? 36:47 - Discussion on Adam's nature & relationship with God 44:36 - Inconsistencies in the Christian Doctrine 45:51 - Discussion on forgiveness & repentance 50:34 - Fate of People ignorant of Jesus 51:53 - Paul vs Jesus on Repentance 54:03 - Contradiction b/w Isaiah 59:20 & Romans 11:26 58:43 - Issues with Romans 5:6 & other parts of the Bible 59:25 - Christian teachings conflicting the Bible 1:00:56 - *Ripple Project (David) joins* 1:01:38 - David losing his Christian Foundations 1:02:09 - Advice from Hamza 1:03:14 - Not letting go of Jesus pbuh 1:04:29 - The teachings of Islam 1:05:57 - Jesus pbuh in Islam 1:07:23 - Advice to David 1:13:01 - David shares his experience 1:14:55 - Seeking the Truth 1:16:10 - Mercy of God in Islam 1:22:09 - Addressing David 1:22:36 - Exposing Islamophobes 1:23:37 - Christianity differing from Islam due to Paul's influence 1:24:25 - Ripple Project (David) joins again 1:25:03 - Dream Analogy of the Suffering of this life 1:25:37 - SC Dawah Livestream 1:26:33 - The Wisdom behind Sufferings 1:31:07 - Story of Adam pbuh in Islam 1:32:12 - The Message & Guidance of Islam 1:34:32 - Fate of people who're ignorant of Islam 1:37:58 - Justice & Mercy of God in judging the people 1:47:22 - Suffering of Jesus pbuh in Islam? 1:49:15 - Allah ﷻ being the Most Merciful 1:50:49 - Bible supporting the message of Islam 1:52:58 - The Trials & Miracles of Prophets 1:54:33 - Dawah to David 2:38:44 - Inviting Christians 2:38:57 - Banter 2:41:18 - Geoffrey fails to join 2:42:05 - Chinwag 2:43:22 - *Geoffrey joins* 2:43:45 - No Women on the Panel? 2:45:52 - Message to the Viewers 2:47:56 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up SubhanAllah ❤️🤍💖 Awesome Stream 👍🏻👌🏻 _May Allah ﷻ bless you all and reward you for your efforts._ 🤲🏻

[@kconsidine313]

I cried when David came on, it was heartbreaking and so freaking exciting at the same time!! Inshallah Allah makes him Muslim, I prayed for you David. I am a convert and know how you feel. May God make it easy for you because its not easy all the time, but it takes courage for what you have done. God willing you will be rewarded tremendously!

[@rawman2353]

david wood???

[@Toronado2]

To @Martin Ramsbottom Mr. Bottom, I see your back with knew tactics. Can you tell me how is it that your GOD ends up with another GOD? How does that work? As I understand it that means you have a GOD and your GOD has another GOD, which means you end up with TWO GODS??? I can't rap my mind around that one.

[@Toronado2]

To @Martin Ramsbottom I'm pleased to see that you are saying that your Bible doesn't make any sense. What it shows is that you have NO idea what your Bible teaches because you haven't studied it.

[@Toronado2]

To @Martin Ramsbottom You wrote quote: "@tony G If you stick to the truth you can not be refuted . As for me using new tactics , I don't use tactics . I'm here solely for the souls of others and may the almighty expose me and rebuke me if I'm lying. Spiritual blindness is very very powerful . I'll leave you with a verse from the new testament. " The gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing ". God bless you Tony ." You say "IF I speak the truth", Of course I'm speaking the truth because I'm a Muslim first and foremost. Then you pray that "GOD may expose you". And you shall be exposed, just give me a minute. Then you quote a Verse, "The gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing ". Do you know what it is trying to teach you? I think not, otherwise you would not have quoted it.

[@Toronado2]

To @Martin Ramsbottom Let me quote a Verse from the Bible so that per chance you might understand what it means, Psa 45:7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. Now please explain who is the GOD that HAS a GOD in this Verse?

[@wolvezoid8729]

Seriously guys what is wrong with y'all? See David? He watched the videos and his Fitrah awakened, imagine what u could do by simply liking the video so that somebody else can see this

[@originalsource8952]

When David came on, this stream was so off topic but I loved it. May Allah guide him to the right path.

[@wisdom7004]

Aameen

[@wisdom7004]

The ultimate goal of any Efdawah stream is not only the topic itself but rather to guide ppl to the right path ! and for me yesterday was a real success when David came on to the stream, may Allah guide him to the right way !

[@originalsource8952]

@Martin Ramsbottom Usually every other Friday, Brother Hamza has a stream called The Arena on his own channel Hamza's Den. That stream is free for any topic.

[@originalsource8952]

@Martin Ramsbottom Have you watched The Arena stream on his channel? They leave it open for any topic to do with religion. It's mainly Christians & Atheists that go on to debate. I've got a question for you. Are you Christian / Atheist or any other belief? If you're a Christian why do you believe what the NT says is true?

[@originalsource8952]

@Martin Ramsbottom On The Arena stream they debate whoever comes on. Frank is a Christian who went on. So if you want a free 4 all, that's the best stream. EFDawah said they'll do Quran streams after they've dealt with the Bible so no one is hiding. You can debate with me on here if you want but it looks like you're even afraid of telling me what you believe in.

[@truthseeker6692]

Who is here after the video with david

[@ABDURRA7MAAN]

When i saw how emotional it was for him and for everyone else when he took his Shahadah I had to come back and see what he had on his mind earlier ❤️

[@MotivatingMemers]

Can you give me the video link please ? Thankyou

[@MotivatingMemers]

@@ABDURRA7MAAN can you give me the video link please? Thankyou

[@iambetterksa2566]

@@MotivatingMemers please comment it if u find it?

[@umayrahrahman9685]

@@MotivatingMemers kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYawgICtZcSlo8U

[@r.rahman12]

these streams of ef dawah, sc dawah, hamza's den, jordan m, adnan rashid, and of other brothers will take a special place in history, and after 20-30 years when these brother will become very old and watching these streams again, they can take pride that they have really done great deeds for islam.

[@sorayayaya754]

Alhsmdulillah

[@r.rahman12]

@Martin Ramsbottom mr. lunatic, u better grow up.

[@kconsidine313]

Come on Frank I was a christian for a long time too, Alhoumdulilah Allah chooses the ones who loves him in sincerity!! When Hamza asked you if you believe God feels pain you shook your head no but said yes!!

[@frankszanto]

If God is not pained by our sin, then it means he doesn't care. The Muslim view of God is that he is a concept, not a person.

[@ibrahim-rv4oe]

​@@frankszanto the muslim veiw is very simple god is happy with those who strive to be righteous , and angry with those who follow their desires and go astray knowingly , on the other hand the Christian view is if someone came to your shop and stole and then asked for forgiveness he has to kill your son and all his progeny should bare his sin.

[@ibrahim-rv4oe]

@@frankszanto what do you mean by pained , you mean physical pain?

[@kconsidine313]

@Martin Ramsbottom I think that is ironic talking about pretending coming from a Christian. I dont live in la la land.! I dont know what you are talking about as far as questions go, be clear!

[@T.V.K.]

@@frankszanto you LIED about the Law! saying we can't meet the Law! Proverbs 10:16 16 The wages of the righteous is life, but the earnings of the wicked are sin and death. Deuteronomy 30:8-20 8 You will again obey the Lord and follow all his commands I am giving you today. 9 Then the Lord your God will make you most prosperous in all the work of your hands and in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your land. The Lord will again delight in you and make you prosperous, just as he delighted in your ancestors, 10 if you obey the Lord your God and keep his commands and decrees that are written in this Book of the Law and turn to the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. The Offer of Life or Death 11 Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach. 12 It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, “Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, “Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” 14 No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it. 15 See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction. 16 For I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in obedience to him, and to keep his commands, decrees and laws; then you will live and increase, and the Lord your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess. 17 But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, 18 I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess. 19 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live 20 and that you may love the Lord your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the Lord is your life, and he will give you many years in the land he swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

[@micoberss5579]

1:18:18 Dr Imran quoted this : Say, ˹O Prophet, that Allah says,˺ “O My servants who have exceeded the limits against their souls! Do not lose hope in Allah’s mercy, for Allah certainly forgives all sins. He is indeed the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.(Surah Zumar, verse 53)

[@osb7948]

Ijaz's word's in response to brother David at 1:26:33 to 1:30:02 are genuinely some of the most profound testaments of dawah anyone can give. Wallahi I'm a grown man and I shed a tear listening to him. Ijaz I know I told you this on a chat before but I honestly regard you as a hero of dawah given what you've been through and what you've continued to offer to the people for the sake of Allah. I do not know of the nature of your illness or suffering and I'm sure many of us can relate but what we could all see without a doubt is the amazing result of your diligent work on people's salvation. Brothers like yourself, Imran, Hamza, Sadat, Nazam and the other brothers are truly working for a higher purpose as you are all working to save people's souls in their eternal life and everything else we do in this life pales in comparison. I pray from the bottom of my heart that Allah reward you all immensely in this life and the hereafter. Ameen.

[@iman_lazim]

This was one of the best streams. ALLAH guide ripple my fellow Aussie mate 👍

[@3aeren]

insalallah fellow aussie

[@zakariyajaama7586]

Alhamdoulilah our brother turned to Allah swt and reverted.

[@kconsidine313]

Allah does not make a person a Muslim, who is not already inclined towards what is good, and David is clearly inclined to that which is good MashaAllah SubponAllah

[@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651]

"You said person, person, person, but not 3 persons, but 1 person. I'm asking my Christian brothers and sisters, what language are you speaking?" - Syeikh Ahmed Deedat rahimahullaah.

[@m.a4123]

David, you made us cry with your honest and sincere way...😢😢😢.

[@chocolatte9459]

My heart goes out to Ripple project may Allah guide his heart to the right path...Aameen

[@AdrianMuslim]

May Allah reward you guys and may people open their heart to the truth. Love for Muslims & non Muslims 💕

[@rizwanramzan5729]

Brother Sadet...is awesome....so is everyone on the panel!

[@fazilamakkan1770]

Brothers, I have been searching for this particular stream as I found it particularly moving when brother David comes on. Needless to say I watched the streams FROM THE VERY 1ST STREAM in order to find it!! That's right, I watched them all over again and I found it just as much enjoyable to watch them now as I did when I first saw them. May Allah swt bless you brothers and reward you immensely for all your hard work and effort InshaAllah. Ameen

[@tarakkhandakar]

May Allah guide David

[@greatahmed1708]

Dear brothers Allah bless you you are so blessed and lucky and doing great work on this planet and we love you

[@mrquija]

David, don't allow family, pride, culture, or any of these things to hold you back from accepting Islam, these are all just excuses. Be a Muslim and follow Allah for Allah's sake only. Guidance only comes from Allah.

[@abofares2261]

May allah SWT guide our brother David to the straight path, i ask everyone to not forget him by your Duaa in your prayers

[@saift2933]

These streams are some of the greatest "substitute" for hollywood, bollywood etc.

[@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651]

Masya Allaah Brother Saddaat excellent explaination barakAllaahu fiikum

[@HPzFreelance]

So much intelligence in this panel MashaAllah.

[@4i4ui4i4u4]

جزاكم الله خيرا

[@VigilanteMian]

Satan can definitely make someone procrastinate on things. It happens to me too, Satan would play in my mind like delay your prayers, you still have time, pray later. Satan is our worst enemy.

[@jamephioful]

I'm crying.

[@moonlightlight5450]

nice stream💖🇧🇩💖

[@eddie2562]

All of the brothers are amazing. I love you for the sake of Allah.

[@4i4ui4i4u4]

Brothers please don’t forget to remind the Christian and the Jews if the become Muslims Allah will reward them double , zero bad deeds account and plus good account for what ever they had done before Islam “according to what Allah consider good” Sura Alqasas : chapter 28 - verse 54

[@gwolf6975]

I think a good point was trying to be made, God CAN do whatever he thinks, so therefore he CAN Seperate himself from himself for a moment or in a way if he desires. Right?...

[@afuadjam]

subhanallah

[@paulbrill3668]

@Hamza can't wait to discuss! When am I next?

[@abdulelahkhunji6871]

They wiil tell you God is mystery, but the holy Quran says: There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.... 🌹👆

[@IndoFahmi]

Ripple Project: I'm a bit disappointed and upset that you're taking something away from me and not offering anything in return. Hamza: Fantastic... 🤣🤣🤣 Keep up the good work brothers. Wassalamualaykum.

[@micoberss5579]

Mashaallah

[@cure4islamophobia649]

40 Contradictions in the Bible: 1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? God did (2 Samuel 24: 1) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1) 2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) 3. How many fighting men were found in Judah? Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) 4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? Seven (2 Samuel 24:13) Three (I Chronicles 21:12) 5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2) 6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9) 7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem? Three months (2 Kings 24:8) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9) 8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time? Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8) Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11) 9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after? After (2 Samuel 5 and 6) Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14) 10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark? Two (Genesis 6:19, 20) Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9) 11. When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture? One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4) Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4) 12. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have? Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26) Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25) 13. In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die? Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:8) Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1) 14. How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple? Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2) Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16) 15. Solomon built a facility containing how many baths? Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26) Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5) 16. Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab? Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6) Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11) 17. How many were the children of Zattu? Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8) Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13) 18. How many were the children of Azgad? One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12) Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17) 19. How many were the children of Adin? Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15) Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20) 20. How many were the children of Hashum? Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19) Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22) 21. How many were the children of Bethel and Ai? Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28) One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32) 22. Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows: 29,818 (Ezra) 31,089 (Nehemiah) 23. How many singers accompanied the assembly? Two hundred (Ezra 2:65) Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67) 24. What was the name of King Abijahs mother? Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2) Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27) 25. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem? Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40) No (Joshua 15:63) 26. Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary? Jacob (Matthew 1:16) Hell (Luke 3:23) 27. Jesus descended from which son of David? Solomon (Matthew 1:6) Nathan(Luke3:31) 28. Who was the father of Shealtiel? Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12) Neri (Luke 3:27) 29. Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ? Abiud (Matthew 1: 13) Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway. 30. Who was the father of Uzziah? Joram (Matthew 1:8) Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1) 31. Who was the father of Jechoniah? Josiah (Matthew 1:11) Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16) 32. How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until Christ? Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17) But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen (see Matthew 1: 12-16) 33. Who was the father of Shelah? Cainan (Luke 3:35-36) Arphaxad (Genesis II: 12) 34. Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come? Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13) No (John 1:19-21) 35. Would Jesus inherit Davids throne? Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32) No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon Davids throne (Jeremiah 36:30) 36. Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals? One - a colt (Mark 11:7; cf Luke 19:3 5). And they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it. Two - a colt and an ass (Matthew 21:7). They brought the ass and the colt and put their garments on them and he sat thereon. 37. How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ? By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17) His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41) 38. Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew? By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22) On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43) 39. When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus daughter already dead? Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, My daughter has just died. No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, My little daughter is at the point of death. 40. Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey? Yes (Mark 6:8) No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3

[@islammakessense5979]

i'm borrowing this, i hope it's ok :p.

[@asay88]

1.00.58 is when ripple project is introduced. May Allah guide him

[@conantheseptuagenarian3824]

46:45 - Jesus said you're saved through believing in him in John 6:29.

[@jav8070]

believe WHAT about Jesus exactly ? We Muslims also believe in Jesus alongside ALL of God's Prophets . peace be upon them all .

[@iambetterksa2566]

Does anyone have the follow up David video?

[@farhaan1924]

Even i have the same question 🧐

[@mych197]

Type efdawah David shahadah , you will see he reverted. Alhamdulilah

[@conantheseptuagenarian3824]

although you guys are obviously hostile to christianity, i think it's pretty great that you're taking such a thorough look at the NT. they're probably out there, but i haven't seen christians doing this with the koran.

[@abofares2261]

please tell us if you receive any good news from brother david

[@maximus9146]

☝🏼

[@mdrasheduzzaman5139]

David I am from Australia..Sydney let me know if you need any help with anything

[@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651]

Assalamualaikum @EfDawah, please consider inviting Brother Yusha Evans to the streams. Ex christian missionary muslim revert.

[@cure4islamophobia649]

The Qur’an identifies the ruler of Egypt as “Pharaoh” sixty-five times, but only in the story of Moses (peace be upon him). Not a single time is Egypt’s earlier king during the time of Joseph (peace be upon him), called a “Pharaoh” in the Qur’an. This differs from the Old Testament which uses the label for both of these rulers (see: Genesis 40:7, 41:15/31/46, 50:7), though it has since been established that the term “Pharaoh” was first coined during the reign of Thutmose III (d. 1436 BC), the 18th dynasty of ancient Egypt.[16] Historians have further discovered that during the era of Joseph, the 15th to 17th dynasties of Egypt were an invading force from Palestine, and hence they were called the Hyksos (literally: foreign kings). Since “Pharaoh” meant “great house” or “elite bloodline,” and since the Hyksos were occupiers and not indigenous rulers, they were naturally ineligible for the honorific title-had it even existed.[17] Dr. Bucaille writes, I must confess that when the Qur’an was first being conveyed to people, the ancient Egyptian language had vanished from the collective memory of humanity for over two centuries, and remained that way until the nineteenth century. Therefore, it was impossible for us to know that the king of Egypt should be called anything other than the title mentioned in the Holy Bible. The subtle word choice of the Qur’an on this matter is thought-provoking.[18] The historical accuracy of the Qur’an is not just confirmed by recent archeological excavation; it astonished many early Jews and Christians just the same. The fact that Muhammad ﷺ could simply speak of personalities across different cultures like Abraham, Joseph, Moses, Jesus, Dhū al-Qarnayn, and others, with such detail was inexplicable. Similarly, the fact that he ﷺ could extensively illustrate scenes from the hereafter just as their earlier scriptures did was unbelievable for them, as Allah said, “Over it (Hellfire) are nineteen. And We have not made the keepers of the Hellfire but angels, and We have not made their number except as a trial for those who disbelieve (i.e., will they mock nineteen as few?), and so that those who were given the Scripture [prior] would be certain...” (74:31). Some Jews in Madīnah conceded that Muhammad ﷺ was, in fact, a true prophet, then resisted his message under the indefensible claim that it only applied to the Arabs. This was due to their inability to contest its divine origin, for they knew there was no access to any semblance of this history in the Arabic language whatsoever. As Allah says, “That is from the news of the unseen which We reveal to you, [O Muhammad]. You knew it not, neither you nor your people, before this” (11:49). Some of the toughest critics of the Qur’an today, like William Tisdall, confirm this: “There seems to be no satisfactory proof that an Arabic version of the New Testament existed in Muhammad’s time.”[19] In a similar vein, Pope Tawadrus II of Alexandria writes, “The first Arabic translation surfaced towards the end of the eighth Gregorian century and more than one hundred years after Islam. It was done by Bishop John of Seville in Spain. It was a partial translation that did not include the entire book, and was insufficiently circulated.”[20] As for the Torah, there is near consensus among Orientalist scholars that even incomplete translations of the Old Testament into Arabic did not exist until the 10th century.[21] Some detractors of Islam argue that none of this history is remarkable, let alone miraculous. They claim Muhammad ﷺ either learned these accounts directly from the mouths of his contemporaries or that he plagiarized them from manuscripts of the Bible that have since been lost. The accusation of being spoon-fed by others existed during the Prophet’s ﷺ life, but it quickly disappeared, and until today most serious Qur’an critics avoid citing such a ludicrous proposition because it risks their being perceived as desperate. First of all, this would be contrary to the historically indisputable integrity of Muhammad’s character. Secondly, the suggestions that Muhammad’s ﷺ knowledge of previous prophets and nations came from a Roman blacksmith in Mecca (a layman), or from a passing midday encounter with Baḥīrah the Monk, or to a single conversation with a dying Waraqah ibn Nawfal, are simply implausible. Sensible people realize that the bulk and veracity of what the Prophet ﷺ brought could only be attained with decades of apprenticeship that would be impossible for him to hide. “Say, ‘If Allah had willed, I would not have recited it to you, nor would He have made it known to you, for I had remained among you a lifetime before it. Then will you not reason?’” (10:16). As for the second accusation, that of plagiarism from the texts of Judeo-Christian scholars, only someone with a strong confirmation bias would consider this possibility, for two major reasons: As shown earlier, the Qur’an escapes the Bible’s minefield of historical inaccuracies unscathed. Therefore, in order for the unique Qur’anic narrative to be plagiarized from an earlier scripture, this would necessitate that the Prophet ﷺ somehow had access to the accurate version from the thousands of variant manuscripts. Moreover, this version would have existed only in 7th-century Arabia of all places, in a foreign language Muhammad ﷺ secretly learned, then vanished without a trace, never to be recovered again. Even if this bizarre hypothetical were true, it only accounts for the source of this incredible precision and ignores the miraculous nature of the end-product. The Qur’an responds to this notion, asserting, “And We certainly know that they say, ‘It is only a human being who teaches him [the Prophet].’ The tongue of the one they refer to is foreign, and this Qur’an is [in] a clear Arabic language” (16:103

[@abdulelahkhunji6871]

Imagine God the Almighty can suffer and can forget too. ❗👀❗👀❗👀❗👀

[@kconsidine313]

Please link Sadat's wives lectures!

[@ekadria-bo4962]

Remmebering me when Br. Ijaz is talking to Dr Bob, hehe..

[@harissohail8122]

17:00

[@Fahaady6]

Allah is more merciful to the human than his own mother or as our prophet said in hadith which goes like " there was a slave woman who was crying searching for her infant child when she found him she immediately gave her breast to him to feed him and the prophet and his companions where watching then the prophet said: do you think that woman will ever put her son in hell fire ? the companions said : no way! then the prophet said : Allah is more merciful to his slaves than this woman to her child don't ever think that you are more merciful than the one who gave you the trait in the first place

[@B.Y.A]

Paul in Romans says to Jews that if they convert to christianity they shouldnt practice the Law,read below: Romans 7:5 While we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we are discharged from the law, dead to that which held us captive, so that we are slaves not under the old written code but in the new life of the Spirit.

[@harissohail8122]

1:30:30

[@cure4islamophobia649]

Allah is the best of planner Praise be to Allah. Firstly: The original linguistic meaning of the Arabic word kayd (plan, plot, scheme) is simply planning, but after that the meaning may vary according to the way in which it is used and the context; it may mean planning for a good purpose or scheming for an evil purpose. Abu Mansoor al-Azhari said: Kayd means planning, for a negative or positive purpose. End quote from Tahdheeb al-Lughah (10/327). See also the answer to question no. 297850. Secondly: When Allah, may He be exalted, referred to Himself as planning or plotting against the wrongdoers, this refers to planning for a good and true purpose, to requite the wrongdoers for their planning or scheming for bad purposes. In the case of Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, it is a matter of perfection, even though the word kayd (planning or plotting) may be a shortcoming and blameworthy in the case of people, for Allah, may He be exalted, does not resemble His creation either in His Essence or in His attributes or in His deeds. He, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing” [ash-Shoora 42:11]. Allah, may He be exalted, says regarding the requital of the disbelievers for their scheming and plotting against His believing slaves and their spreading mischief on the earth (interpretation of the meaning): “Indeed, they are planning a plan, But I am planning a plan. So allow time for the disbelievers. Leave them awhile” [at-Taariq 86:15-17]. Shaykh as-Sa‘di (may Allah have mercy on him) said: “Indeed, they” that is, those who reject the Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and the Qur’an “are planning a plan” to defeat the truth and support falsehood “But I am planning a plan” to cause the truth to prevail, even if the disbelievers hate it, and to ward off what they have brought of falsehood, so that it may be known who will prevail, for humans are too weak and insignificant to be able to resist the Most Strong, All-Knowing and His plans. “So allow time for the disbelievers. Leave them awhile” that is, for a short time, for they will come to know their fate when the punishment descends upon them. Tafseer as-Sa‘di (919). Thirdly: The Qur’an did not attribute kayd (planning, plotting) in a general sense to Allah, may He be exalted, without qualification. Rather kayd (planning) is attributed to Him, may He be glorified, as a counterpart to the kayd (plots and schemes) of the disbelievers, as we see in the verses quoted above and in similar verses of the Holy Qur’an. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said: These actions - plotting, making fun and mocking - if they are directed at one who does not deserve punishment, then they are wronging him. But if they are done to someone by way of requital and as a punishment to him by doing to him what he did to others, then doing them is justice. End quote from Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa (7/111). Hence it is not correct to attribute this characteristic to Allah, may He be exalted, in general terms; rather it should be qualified by stating that it is planning for a true purpose, and Allah, may He be exalted, cannot be called by a name derived from this word. Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) said: With regard to an attribute of divine perfection that is to be qualified within a specific context, it cannot be attributed to Allah in a general sense, without qualification. This applies to actions such as plotting, deceiving, mocking and so on. These are attributes of perfection that are to be qualified within a specific context, and may be attributed to Him as actions done in requital for what they (the disbelievers) do. In that context, they are attributes of perfection, but in general terms, without qualification within a specific context, they are not to be attributed to Allah, may He be glorified and exalted. Hence it is not valid to describe Him in general terms as a “plotter” or “mocker” or “deceiver”; rather these terms should be qualified and placed in a specific context. So we might say that He is a plotter against those who plot, He is a mocker of the hypocrites, He is a deceiver of the hypocrites, a schemer against the disbelievers - thus placing these words in context, because they are never mentioned except in such contexts. End quote from Sharh al-‘Aqeedah al-Waasitah (1/143). Shaykh ‘Atiyyah Saalim (may Allah have mercy on him) said: The words “Indeed, they are planning a plan, But I am planning a plan” [at-Taariq 86:16] attribute this action to Allah, may He be exalted. The scholars said that this comes under the heading of a requital and response to their action, as in the verses “And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:54] and “And when they meet those who believe, they say, ‘We believe’; but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, ‘Indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers.’ [But] Allah mocks them…” [al-Baqarah 2:14-15]. The early generations (salaf) were unanimously agreed that these actions cannot be attributed to Allah, may He be exalted, in general terms, and it is not permissible to derive a name for Him from them; rather they may be mentioned in the context of discussing what people did and how He counters their deeds, because without this context such actions are not appropriate for Allah, may He be exalted, but in that context it is very appropriate, wise and proper. End quote from Adwaa’ al-Bayaan (9/164-165).

[@1407saint]

The father also suffers?? Bears pain?? Looses ??

[@javaid2499]

They twist things or simply don't understand because they think God is a Man . mixing it with God getting upset over our actions and WE can MAKE HIM feel that way thru our actions ? but there's an example in genesis where GOD Himself REGRETTED for creating Man after He saw man behaving badly as if HE did NOT know that man would do that ?

[@habasoosy2202]

Does anyone have the Come to Success Instagram? I went to look for it but there were so many with the same name I wasn't sure which one is the correct one

[@Zul3rdC]

Take a U-turn to the life before ECG line refuses to take a turn - Amol Gade

[@MrJMont21]

Law written in our heart or belief in God?

[@kconsidine313]

Sadat has never been an addict clearly hahah

[@oumalbanin9534]

May Allah guide you David, Islam is the thruth i say Islam not muslim.

[@rizwanramzan5729]

I love Frank too! 👍😀

[@NJ-ju8fr]

Mock the Christian faith but careful cuz when we lose patience we got some questions about the donkey Ya'fur. Christ is risen in power. But for you who fear my name, the sun of righteousness shall rise with healing in its wings. You shall go out leaping like calves from the stall.

[@kconsidine313]

Nice profile pic Hamza hahaha mashallah

[@jav8070]

Father can suffer ? Jesus was alive and he was and then he was not and then he was again ? Frank 1.. Ijaz said God CAN'T ? (so saying GOD CAN'T that's a problem )? Frank 2 ... God CAN'T Die . so saying GOD CAN'T is now ok BUT ONLY if Frank says it ? lol

[@marijana9361]

You said Sahih Luke could come onto the stream but you blocked him from entering stream yard and the live chat.

[@frankszanto]

Just after I had to leave, Nazam raised the question of repentance. Paul certainly taught repentance - it is implicit in the idea of faith, and God forgiving our sins. In Romans 2:4 “Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness leads you toward repentance?” In 2 Cor 7:10 “Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation”. In Acts 20:21 “I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in the Lord Jesus.” In Acts 26:20 “ … I preached that they should repent and to turn to God, and prove their repentance by their deeds.”

[@originalsource8952]

Hi Frank. If you believe Jesus (PBUH) died for your sins but you never repent for any of your sins, do you still go to paradise?

[@Nazam44]

Hi, Frank. It’s not just about using the word repentance but it’s about preaching the forgiveness of sins through repentance. Whereas, Paul taught salvation came about by professing that Jesus is lord and believing in his resurrection that saves you, and not simple repentance. The book of Acts doesn’t accurately represent what Paul actually believed in or preached. Whoever, wrote Acts was unaware of Romans 10:9. For example Acts 26:20 Paul’s says you have to repent as part of being forgiven or saved, which is contrary to Romans, in which he teaches that salvation comes through faith, alone.

[@frankszanto]

@@originalsource8952 Repenting means turning back to God. If we don't repent, it means we are choosing to stick with our sinful way of life - which means we don't believe Jesus died for us (or maybe just in an intellectual sense). Those verses I quoted above show this. Also, 1 John 1:8" If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."

[@originalsource8952]

@@frankszanto We're all sinners. Are you saying you need both to be forgiven? Believing Jesus (PBUH) dying for your sins isn't enough so you have to repent as well?

[@frankszanto]

@@Nazam44 There is a bit of circular argument here that on one hand, the Gospels (and Acts) are corrupted by Paul's teachings, but on the other hand are not in agreement with Paul's teachings. The NT teaches that repentance is the first step to forgiveness, and there is no forgiveness without repentance (and a changed life). But forgiveness is often portrayed as the paying of a debt, e.g. Matthew 21:18-35. If the debtor cannot repay his debt, then by forgiving the debt, the creditor is accepting the loss. Like a boss who pays his employee even though he did not turn up to work for a month. When we were sinning, we should have been serving God. Instead, we are opposing Him. And we can never make good the loss. If God just says "Don't worry, it doesn't matter", then he is saying sin is no big deal. But by the sacrifice of His Son, He is saying this is a very big deal- it is the worst of the worst.

[@frankszanto]

Your problem is blind disbelief. You have no reason to disbelieve the Gospels. You cannot prove they were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, or that they were written after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. All you can do is raise doubts. That is all that this stream has achieved. And raising doubts about God's word goes right back to Genesis. God had said that Adam and Eve would die if they ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. But the serpent said to the woman "You will surely not die. For God knows when you ear of it, your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God." The Quran cannot be compared to God's word. You cannot prove all or even some of it came from Gabriel, or from any supernatural creature, whether angel or demon. Muhammad apparently did not intend for it to be written. The manuscript evidence does not support its supposed history. And it contains silly myths, and cruel punishments. You attack the Bible, but have nothing to put in its place.

[@originalsource8952]

Someone had to tell me you started a new thread. I'm assuming it was a mistake. Blind disbelief? For it to be blind disbelief you have to provide evidence what you have is the truth. If a Mormon claims their book is true. When you ask them why they believe that but they can't provide any reason then say you are doing blind disbelief. Are they right? Same goes for a Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist & their scripture. If you can provide good reasons why you believe who wrote the "Gospels", when they wrote, what they wrote originally, clarify not just the discrepancy but clear contradictions, tell me why you believe the fake fabricated forgery verses (1 John 5:7, Acts 8:37, ending to Mark, story of the adulterous woman in John) belong to the original writing & why you believe what they wrote is 100% true, then I'll happily admit blind disbelief. Until then you're just like a Mormon, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist claiming their scripture to be true without any evidence then waffle & hide when they can't provide the evidence. By the way I believe David took his Shahaadah on The Arena stream (on Brother Hamza's channel) yesterday. I believe this is partially thanks to you not being able to address the issues raised in the EFDawah Historicity streams. I've still got to watch that full stream. Unlike you I have many reasons why I believe the Quran is the word of God & I'll happily provide them to you. I just wanted you to see how you waffle & hide 1st because you can't provide any reason why you believe what the NT says is true.

[@frankszanto]

@@originalsource8952 I really regret if I in any way contributed to David's actions. I will pray for him, and for you, that you will not be blinded by the god of this world, who opposes the work of Christ. All of the stuff you said above, you have said before. I gave you an answer about 1 John 5:7. There are about 6 or 7 verses or passages in the NT which have some unresolved questions about them. These are well known, and they are clearly marked in all modern Bibles. We do not claim that we have perfect manuscripts, but we know what we have is 98-99% accurate. Muslims have for many years claimed perfect transmission of the Quran, and this is now being shown to be far from true. While this stream has attempted to create many doubts about the NT, at no point has a counter-narrative been offered. It is like a conspiracy theory without a theory. When did the Gospels get written and who wrote them? Who were these clever guys who could write such clever stories - much better than anything in the Quran? Do you have any proof they were written after Paul's letters? When you encounter something which is clearly good, you accept it at face value, and consider it prayerfully before you start slandering the writers.

[@originalsource8952]

@@frankszanto David realised that you & every other Christian can't answer the questions raised by the panel. You & the other Christians who go on just waffle since you don't have answers. You said you'll pray but who will you pray to? God or Jesus (PBUH) who said by himself he can do nothing & who also prays to God. You've not explained why 1 John 5:7 is not there in any manuscripts before codex 629 in the 14th century nor an explanation to Acts 8:37. Even after you have to blindly jump through so many hoops to believe what the NT says is 100% true, you then have to play about with what is written for it to conform to your trinity belief. Blind faith on top of blind belief. The problem is you admit it's not 100% true by coming up with a made up figure of 98 - 99% How did you manage to come up with this figure since you don't know what was written originally? P52, roughly the size of a credit card after year 125 with recent evidence pointing more towards year 200 is your oldest manuscript. What do you base your 98 - 99% figure from, that's not fake fabricated forgery verses in the NT?

[@frankszanto]

@@originalsource8952 For all that has been said, the panel has not said one word to justify belief in Islam. It is as if they are telling everyone the plane (of Christianity) is crashing, and it is time to bail out. Then when people get to the door, they are given a folding umbrella. What you have to offer is a joke. You accuse me of waffling but you keep repeating the same arguments. I have already explained about 1 John 5:7. Look back through the emails. For 300 years, Christians were persecuted. The Romans burned manuscripts, and Christians did not have the luxury of writing on parchment. But there are many manuscripts and fragments, from which the originals can be constructed with high confidence. And all modern Bibles show the places where there are unresolved variations. The Muslims were in power from the beginning, and had the resources to write enduring manuscripts, and to preserve them. But the manuscripts you have all show variations (which you hide), and they do not support the narrative about Uthman etc. But what surprises me most is that while Muslims claim the Quran is from God, you rarely quote it to establish doctrine. Most Islamic beliefs come from the Hadiths, written 250 years later. Why would you need these if God had done a proper job with the Quran?

[@originalsource8952]

@@frankszanto I agree with you that on these historicity streams the panel has not bought up much to justify Islam yet. I believe the reason for that is because they have planned to do the Quran streams after showing how the belief in the NT is false. Before you tell someone what is true, you have to 1st show them what they already believe in is false. I also agree that yes I do repeat the same question several times. This I do when I feel the person hasn't answered the question. Usually they try to hide by diverting the topic or they waffle without addressing the question asked. I've noticed Christians tend do that a lot, not just you. Some people get distracted by these techniques but I try to stick to the question asked. You've not provided a satisfactory answer why 1 John 5:7 is not found in any manuscript before codex 629 in the 14th century. Nor an answer on Acts 8:37. Nor an answer on how you have come up with your 98 - 99% figure from. Nor why you don't believe what your own scholars say. There is a reason why 1 John 5:7 & Acts 8:37 has been thrown out of modern Bibles like the NIV & RSV. That is Christian scholars doing that. Unless you can show you are more qualified than them, then why should anyone believe you over them? You keep throwing words like high confidence, 98 - 99% accurate..... without anything to back it up. All you've provided is your opinion without any substance. Until you can provide something to back it up then how can you tell someone who is a pure monotheist to also now start worshipping a man who was born through the private parts of a woman who was created by God, requires God for sustenance, said by himself he can do nothing & prays to God. Our main belief is that there is nothing worthy of worship except God. We can get that from the Quran. The Quran tells us to pray Salaah but doesn't tell us how to pray. We go to the Hadiths & Seerah for that. How did Jesus (PBUH) pray? Did he go to Church on a Sunday to sing hymns?

[@conantheseptuagenarian3824]

59:25 Hebrews 9:22. making interpretive errors is one thing but simple mistakes like this are ridiculous, especially given how much criticism you throw at your christian audience for the same errors.

[@cure4islamophobia649]

Concept of God in Islam Monotheism, belief in one God, is the most important and foundational concept in Islam. Muslims believe in one God who created the universe and has power over everything within it. He is unique and exalted above everything He creates, and His greatness cannot be compared to His creation. Furthermore, He is the only one deserving of any worship and the ultimate purpose of all creation is to submit to Him. The Islamic understanding of God is distinct from all other religions and beliefs in various respects since it is based on a pure and clear understanding of monotheism. This essentially captures the concept of God in Islam, which will be further elaborated in this pamphlet. Muslims often refer to God as Allah. This is a universal name for God and does not refer to an exclusively ‘Islamic’ God. Interestingly, this name is related to the Aramaic and Hebrew names for God, Allaha and Elohim. Therefore, Allah is simply the Arabic name for God which affirms that He is One singular God with no partners or equals. The name Allah cannot be pluralized or limited to a specific gender, which establishes that God is One and that He is unique from everything He creates. Muslims continue to use this original Arabic name for God (Allah) since it perfectly expresses His unique qualities. God is the Creator and the Sustainer of the universe who created everything for a reason. Muslims believe that He created humankind with a simple purpose - to worship Him. He sent messengers to guide people in fulfilling this purpose. Some of these messengers include Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad, peace be upon all of them. They all taught a consistent message about God by affirming His greatness as the Creator and guiding people to worship Him alone. This basic concept has always resonated with people’s natural understanding of God. (Click here to learn more about prophets in Islam.) When the final prophet, Muhammad, peace be upon him (pbuh), was asked about God, the answer came directly from God in the holy book of Muslims, the Quran (also spelled ‘Koran’): “Say, ‘He is God the One, God the eternal. He begot no one nor was He begotten. No one is comparable to Him.’” [112:1-4] This is a clear statement by God describing Himself to humanity without any room for confusion. God is One and is exalted above everything He creates and He is capable over all things. Fully accepting the oneness of God is to accept that He is distinct from everything else. It would not suit God’s majesty and glory to associate the limited attributes of His creation to Him because He is not restricted in any way, while His creation is. He is the First with no beginning and the Last with no end. Everything in the universe was created by His will. He is not confined by space or time and He is the only One who is in control and provides for His creation. “He is God: there is no god other than Him. It is He who knows what is hidden as well as what is in the open, He is the Lord of Mercy, the Giver of Mercy. He is God: there is no god other than Him, the Controller, the Holy One, Source of Peace, Granter of Security, Guardian over all, the Almighty, the Compeller, the Truly Great; God is far above anything they consider to be His partner. He is God: the Creator, the Originator, the Shaper. The best names belong to Him. Everything in the heavens and earth glorifies Him: He is the Almighty, the Wise.” [Quran, 59:22-24] Why did God create people whom He already knew would reject Him and go to hell? Shouldn’t God who is All Loving instead not create them so that they won’t go through punishment? These are some common questions connected to this topic. Answered by Nouman Ali Khan Pure Monotheism “God: there is no god but Him, the Ever Living, the Ever Watchful. Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. All that is in the heavens and in the earth belongs to Him. Who is there that can intercede with Him except by His leave? He knows what is before them and what is behind them, but they do not comprehend any of His knowledge except what He wills. His throne extends over the heavens and the earth; it does not weary Him to preserve them both. He is the Most High, the Tremendous.” [Quran, 2:255] The primary pillar of Islamic belief clearly states that there is nothing worthy of worship except God. Associating partners with God or attributing qualities of lesser beings to Him is considered to be the greatest sin in Islam. In the past, this often took the form of idol worship or praying to multiple lesser gods. Although this is less common now, the current era has replaced many of the physical ‘idols’ of the past with other contemporary ‘gods.’ Many people today allow passions like entertainment, drugs, relationships or material objects to become the center of their lives. They become so consumed with these things that they submit to whatever will allow them to fulfill their desires. For example, if a drug addict allows their addiction to control their actions, beliefs, feelings, and behaviors, causing them to risk their personal safety and the safety of others, that drug has essentially become their god. Likewise, if another person puts a loved one before God by obeying that person even if that causes them to transgress against God’s commands, their loved one has taken precedence over God. Islam teaches that people should completely submit only to God as He is the only One worthy of their worship. He is the Creator and Sustainer of the universe and everything in it belongs to Him. The Quran points out the faulty thinking of those who worship other than God: “‘How can you worship things you carve with your own hands, when it is God who has created you and all your handiwork?’” [37:95-96]

[@cure4islamophobia649]

The Prophecies of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ: Proofs of Prophethood “Say, [O Muhammad], ‘I do not tell you that I have the depositories [containing the provision] of Allah nor that I know the unseen, nor do I tell you that I am an angel. I only follow what is revealed to me.’” [al-An‘ām 6: 50] Amidst the fiercest persecution and abuse that the Muslims faced in the earliest Meccan period, the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ would stand without wavering and convey to his followers God’s promise of Islam spreading all over the world. Tamīm ad-Dāri (rA) reports that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “This matter will certainly reach every place touched by the night and day. Allah will not leave a house of mud or [even] fur except that Allah will cause this religion to enter it, by which the honorable will be honored and the disgraceful will be disgraced. Allah will honor the honorable with Islam and he will disgrace the disgraceful with unbelief.”[3] In another narration, reported by Thawbān (rA), “Indeed, Allah gathered up the earth for me so that I saw its east and its west; and indeed the dominion of my nation will reach what was gathered up for me from it.”[4] The fact that these predictions were made at a time when Muslims were a powerless handful, and Islam was expected to be buried in its cradle, is nothing short of miraculous. At that point, presuming that the faith would even survive would be considered by most nothing short of a pipe-dream. But to predict that Islam would not just survive, but grow to thrive globally, was at that point inconceivable. For us nowadays, witnessing a quarter of this planet’s population as subscribers to Islam makes it clear that this was no presumption, but instead another prophecy inspired by the Divine. The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ foretold a multitude of Muslim conquests, including those of Rome, Persia, Egypt, Yemen, India, and Constantinople. None of these prophecies were described vaguely or with equivocation, but rather with an air of absolute certainty. Jābir b. ‘Abdillāh (rA) reports that while digging the trench outside Madinah to repel an approaching army, a massive boulder obstructed them that no ax would break. With time running out, and with people’s fears and hunger eating away at them, the Prophet ﷺ walked over and picked up the ax. He said, “Bismillah (In God’s name),” and hammered the boulder, reducing a chunk of it to rubble. He said, “Allāhu Akbar (God is Great)! I have been given the keys to Shām; I can see its red palaces at this very moment.” Then he shattered another chunk and said, “Allāhu Akbar (God is Great)! I have been given the keys to Persia; I can see Madain’s white palace.” Then he shattered the last chunk and said, “Allāhu Akbar (God is Great)! I have been given the keys to Yemen. By Allah, I can see the Gates of Sana‘a at this very moment from here.”[10] Regarding Egypt, he ﷺ took its conquest for granted, knowing his Lord’s promise was true. Abu Dharr (rA) narrated: The Prophet ﷺ said: “You will certainly conquer Egypt; a land in which [a currency] called al-qīrâṭ is customary. When you conquer it, be gracious to its people, for they are entitled to a covenant and [the right of] family bonds. And when you see two men disputing over the place of a brick, then leave [Egypt].”[11] The Prophet ﷺ accurately spoke in the second person here, foretelling that none other than his personal Companions would conquer Egypt. Then he ﷺ instructed them to honor their peace treaty with the Egyptians and reminded them that their grandmother (Hājar; the mother of Ishmael) was from this land. In this same narration, Abu Dharr (rA) adds, “I witnessed ‘Abdur-Raḥmān b. Shuraḥbīl b. Ḥasana and his brother, Rabī‘a, disputing [in Egypt] over the place of a brick, so I left.” Regarding Constantinople, which is presently called Istanbul, the Prophet ﷺ determined that it would become a Muslim land nearly a millennium prior to that happening. ‘Abdullāh b. ‘Amr (rA) reports that they were once sitting with the Messenger of Allah ﷺ and writing, he ﷺ was asked, “Which city will be liberated first; Constantinople or Rome?” He said, “Indeed, the city of Heraclius will be liberated first,”[12] meaning Constantinople. An entire 800 years later, the Ottoman sultan, Muhammad al-Fātiḥ, accomplished this great feat. In another hadith, “Constantinople will certainly be liberated, and how excellent a leader will its leader be, and how excellent an army that army will be.”[13] Some scholars hold that this second hadith may refer to a second liberation of Constantinople which was also prophesied, but has not yet taken place. Regarding how material prosperity will be a sign of the end-times, the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said, “And if you see the barefoot, naked, shepherds of camels competing [for praise] in the construction of high-rise buildings, then this is from among the signs [of the Hour].”[46] In a similar hadith about this egotism infesting the mosque atmosphere, he ﷺ said, “The Hour will not commence before people boast of their mosques.” Ibn ‘Abbās (rA), the narrator, added, “You will ornament your mosques just as the Jews and Christians did with their temples.”[47] This intense competition will involve exploitation of others, and thus we find parallel prophecies of hedonism and exploitation in the prophetic tradition as well. In the hadith of Miswar b. Makhrama (rA): “By Allah I do not fear poverty overtaking you, but I fear that you will have abundant wealth at your disposal as it became at the disposal of the nations before you, causing you to compete in it as they competed in it, and then it destroys you as it destroyed them.”[

[@cure4islamophobia649]

Hadith Explained: “The Sun Prostrates Under the Throne and Takes Permission to Rise Again in t is Reported by Al-Bukhari from Abu Dharr that once the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) asked him after sunset, “Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?” He replied, “Allah and His Apostle know better.” So the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) answered: “It goes and prostrates beneath the Throne, then it asks for permission (to rise) and permission is given to it. Soon it will prostrate, but it will not be accepted from it, and it will ask for permission (to rise) but permission will not be given to it; it will be said to it: “Go back to where you came from.’ So it will rise from its place of setting and that is what Allah, may He be Glorified, refers to in the verse: ‘And the sun runs its fixed course for a term (decreed). That is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted in Might, The All-Knowing (Qur’an 36:38)'”. The above hadith has caused much controversy in our times and many critics of Islam use it to disprove the authenticity of Islam. It is also one of the hadiths used by Quranists in an attempt to show the unreliability of hadith literature. However, if we really sincerely ponder over this hadith, it becomes quite clear that critics are just exaggerating in their critiques. The critics of this hadith attack it from four angles: Sun’s rotation around the earth Movement of the sun Prostration of the sun Sun going under the Throne So let us examine these four angles in detail: Sun’s Rotation Around the Earth The first criticism is the claim that the hadith somehow suggests that the sun is rotating around the earth (geocentric), whereas in reality, it is the earth that is orbiting around the sun (heliocentric) and on its own axis that gives us the impression of sunset and sunrise. This contention can easily be resolved by pointing out that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) here is speaking in the context of how things appear to be from earth not how as they really exist. A resident of this planet observes the sun moving from sunrise to sunset and not the earth. This is no different than how the rest of the world uses the terms sunset and sunrise. Even NASA uses such terms. When the day ends, we say the sun has set, and when the day begins, we say the sun has risen. To be more accurate, shouldn’t we say “sunlight has moved away from our location” or “sunlight has come upon our location”? However, we universally use the terms sunrise, sunset, and statements like the sun has risen, the sun has set, etc. because this is how the sun appears to us here on earth. Therefore, the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is trying describe the same phenomenon to a 7th century Arab in words that he will understand because the sun moving is what appears to him from earth. In the Qur’an, Allah also uses similar wording to describe sunrise and sunset in the story about the people of the cave. The Qur’an is conversing with mankind who live on earth, therefore, it uses concepts that they are familiar with: And [had you been present], you would see the sun when it rose, inclining away from their cave on the right, and when it set, passing away from them on the left, while they were [laying] within an open space thereof. That was from the signs of Allah. He whom Allah guides is the [rightly] guided, but he whom He leaves astray - never will you find for him a protecting guide. [Qur’an 18:17] Movement of the Sun The second criticism leveled against this hadith is that it suggests that the sun is moving, whereas, it is the earth that is moving. This too deserves the same reply as in the previous section, however, it should also be noted that the sun is not still. Yes, the sun is not moving around the earth but it is moving at a very fast pace through the Milky Way Galaxy and it is taking us along with it. This moving of the sun is stated explicitly on NASA’s own website. In fact, our whole solar system is moving through the galaxy. Therefore, the critique of the very movement of the sun being problematic should be rejected. This phenomenon of our whole solar system on a move is in complete harmony with a verse in the Qur’an where Allah says: It is not allowable for the sun to reach the moon, nor does the night overtake the day, but each, in an orbit, is swimming. [Qur’an 36:40] Prostration of the Sun The third criticism against this hadith is that it is speaking about some act of prostration occurring from the sun which is not visible especially with all the modern scientific tools we have at our disposal where the sun is watched all the time. The critics say it is just the earth rotating and the sun itself is not doing anything. This is where belief in the unseen comes into play. It is a type of prostration that we do not understand nor can we comprehend its true nature. It is part of the knowledge of the unseen. The absence of an understanding of something does not necessitate that it does not exist. In fact, in one verse Allah tells us that everything prostrates to Him: Do you not see that to Allah prostrates whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth and the sun, the moon, the stars, the mountains, the trees, the moving creatures and many of the people? But upon many the punishment has been justified. And he whom Allah humiliates - for him there is no bestower of honor. Indeed, Allah does what He wills. [Qur’an 22:18] When was the last time we observed the mountains, trees, and moving creatures prostrating to Allah? We haven’t yet they are doing it in a way that we do not understand. In one verse Allah is so explicit about this fact that it should suffice as an answer: The seven heavens and the earth and whatever is in them exalt Him. And there is not a thing except that it exalts [Allah] by His praise, but you do not understand their [way of] exalting. Indeed, He is ever Forbearing and Forgiving. [Qur’an 17:44] When was the last time we observed these things exalting Allah? Never. But they are doing so in a way we do not understand. In another verse, Allah tells us that even thunder exalts Him with praises. Hence, Imam Al-Khattabi said, “It cannot be denied that it [the sun] halts beneath the Throne, in a manner that we cannot see or comprehend; rather this is speaking about a matter of the unseen. So we should not disbelieve in it or ask how it happens, because our knowledge cannot comprehend it.” The problem is that these critics try to give a shape to the prostration in a way that a human being does, but the sun is not a human being. We have our way of prostrating to the Creator and rest of creation has its own way. Much like how different creatures on this planet have their own unique way of communicating with each other. What would small bugs think of our prostration? Do they comprehend what we’re doing? This point requires faith in the revelation that has reached us through His final messenger. Sun Going Under the Throne The last criticism against this hadith is that it claims that the sun goes under the Throne yet we do not see any physical Throne in our modern 24-hour monitoring of the sun. This objection can also be easily resolved by pointing out the fact that the Throne of Allah is part of the unseen as is its location. Therefore, it is not possible for us to physically define its location so that we can actually see the sun prostrating beneath it. We do not posses sufficient enough knowledge of the unseen to be able to unravel its secrets. In addition, there is a big difference between the inability to conceive something and the inability of something to occur. Just because we cannot imagine or understand something does not mean it cannot occur. One of the many causes of people to have doubts about such religious texts is that they often mix the two and then claim that it contradicts modern science. Even in the realm of the scientific world, which is constantly changing ideas, there were numerous things in the past which were considered impossible but only later on with advancement were proven to be in fact possible. In other words, even in science when the appropriate tools are not there to be able to conceive or understand something, it can lead to the rejection of its existence even though it may be right in front of us. If this is the case for things in this world, then what of those outside of it?! When we look at this hadith from the angle that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is describing something from the world of the unseen, it is not difficult to accept it or believe in it. As Muslims, it is part of our duty to believe in the unseen and accept it as true because Allah or His Messenger have said so. For us, authentic religious texts (Qur’an and hadiths) are considered reliable sources. Allah tells us in the beginning of His last revelation sent to mankind: This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah - Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them. [Qur’an 2:2-3] There are numerous statements in the Qur’an and the hadiths which tell us of things from the unseen that we cannot imagine but we believe to be true because Allah and His Messenger said so: angels recording our deeds, angel of death taking souls, questioning and punishment in the grave, divine decree (qadr), paradise, hell, soul, jinn, power of du’a (supplication), etc. thethinkingmuslim.com/2019/06/06/hadith-explained-the-sun-prostrates-under-the-throne-and-takes-permission-to-rise-again/

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The Bible Denies the Divinity of Jesus The Gospel of John, the fourth Gospel, was completed to its present form some seventy years after Jesus was raised up to heaven. This Gospel in its final form says one more thing about Jesus that was unknown from the previous three Gospels - that Jesus was the Word of God. John means that Jesus was God’s agent through whom God created everything else. This is often misunderstood to mean that Jesus was God Himself. But John was saying, as Paul had already said, that Jesus was God’s first creature. In the Book of Revelation in the Bible, we find that Jesus is: “the beginning of God’s creation” (Revelation 3:14, also see 1 Corinthians 8:6 and Colossians 1:15). Anyone who says that the Word of God is a person distinct from God must also admit that the Word was created, for the Word speaks in the Bible saying: “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works...” (Proverbs 8:22). This Gospel, nevertheless, clearly teaches that Jesus is not God. If it did not continue this teaching, then it would contradict the other three Gospels and also the letters of Paul from which it is clearly established that Jesus is not God. We find here that Jesus was not co-equal with the Father, for Jesus said: “...the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28). People forget this and they say that Jesus is equal to the Father. Whom should we believe - Jesus or the people? Muslims and Christians agree that God is self-existent. This means that He does not derive his existence from anyone. Yet John tells us that Jesus’ existence is caused by the Father. Jesus said in this Gospel: “...I live because of the Father...” (John 6:57). John tells us that Jesus cannot do anything by his own when he quotes Jesus as saying: “By myself I can do nothing...” (John 5:30). This agrees with what we learn about Jesus from other Gospels. In Mark, for example, we learn that Jesus performed miracles by a power which was not within his control. This is especially clear from an episode in which a woman is healed of her incurable bleeding. The woman came up behind him and touched his cloak, and she was immediately healed. But Jesus had no idea who touched him. Mark describes Jesus’ actions thus: “At once Jesus realized that power had gone out from him. He turned around in the crowd and asked, ‘Who touched my clothes?’” (Mark 5:30). His disciples could not provide a satisfactory answer, so Mark tells us: “Jesus kept looking around to see who had done it.” (Mark 5:32). This shows that the power that healed the woman was not within Jesus’ control. He knew that the power had gone out of him, but he did not know where it went. Some other intelligent being had to guide that power to the woman who needed to be healed. God was that intelligent being. It is no wonder, then, that in Acts of the Apostles we read that it was God who did the miracles through Jesus (Acts 2:22). God did extraordinary miracles through others too, but that does not make the others God (see Acts 19:11). Why, then, is Jesus taken for God? Even when Jesus raised his friend Lazarus from the dead, he had to ask God to do it. Lazarus’ sister, Martha, knew this, for she said to Jesus: “I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask.” (John 11:22). Martha knew that Jesus was not God, and John who reported this with approval knew it also. Jesus had a God, for when he was about to ascend to heaven, he said: “I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.” (John 20:17). John was sure that no one had seen God, although he knew that many people had seen Jesus (see John 1:18 and 1 John 4:12). In fact Jesus himself told the crowds, that they have never seen the Father, nor have they heard the Father’s voice (John 5:37). Notice that if Jesus was the Father, his statement here would be false. Who is the only God in John’s Gospel? The Father alone. Jesus testified this when he declared that the God of the Jews is the Father (John 8:54). Jesus too confirmed that the Father alone is the only true God (see John 17:1-3). And Jesus said to his enemies: “...you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God.” (John 8:40). According to John, therefore, Jesus was not God, and nothing John wrote should be taken as proof that he was God - unless one wishes to disagree with John. God and Jesus Are Two Separate Beings: Many people use certain verses of the Bible as proof that Jesus is God. However, all of these verses, when understood in context, prove the opposite! For example, in Matthew 9:2, Jesus said to a certain man, “Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven.” Because of this, some say that Jesus must be God since only God can forgive sins. However, if you are willing to read just a few verses further, you will find that the people “...praised God, who had given such authority to men.” (Matthew 9:8). This shows that the people knew, and Matthew agrees, that Jesus is not the only man to receive such authority from God. Jesus himself emphasized that he does not speak on his own authority (John 14:10) and he does nothing on his own authority, but he speaks only what the Father has taught him (John 8:28). What Jesus did here was as follows. Jesus announced to the man the knowledge Jesus received from God that God had forgiven the man. Notice that Jesus did not say, “I forgive your sins,” but rather, “your sins are forgiven,” implying, as this would to his Jewish listeners, that God had forgiven the man. Jesus, then, did not have the power to forgive sins, and in that very episode he called himself “the Son of Man” (Matthew 9:6). John 10:30 is often used as proof that Jesus is God because Jesus said, “I and the father are one.” But, if you read the next six verses, you will find Jesus explaining that his enemies were wrong to think that he was claiming to be God. What Jesus obviously means here is that he is one with the Father in purpose. Jesus also prayed that his disciples should be one just as Jesus and the Father are one. Obviously, he was not praying that all his disciples should somehow merge into one individual (see John 17:11 and 22). And when Luke reports that the disciples were all one, Luke does not mean that they became one single human being, but that they shared a common purpose although they were separate beings (see Acts 4:32). In terms of essence, Jesus and the Father are two, for Jesus said they are two witnesses (John 8:14-18). They have to be two, since one is greater than the other (see John 14:28). When Jesus prayed to be saved from the cross, he said: “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” (Luke 22:42). This shows that they had two separate wills, although Jesus submitted his will to the will of the Father. Two wills mean two separate individuals. Furthermore, Jesus is reported to have said: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46). If one of them forsook the other, then they must be two separate entities. Again, Jesus is reported to have said: “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.” (Luke 23:46). If the spirit of one can be placed into the hands of another, they must be two separate beings. In all of these instances, Jesus is clearly subordinate to the Father. When Jesus knelt down and prayed he obviously was not praying to himself (see Luke 22:41). He was praying to his God. Throughout the New Testament, the Father alone is called God. In fact, the titles “Father” and “God” are used to designate one individual, not three, and never Jesus. This is also clear from the fact that Matthew substituted the title “Father” in the place of the title “God” in at least two places in his Gospel (compare Matthew 10:29 with Luke 12:6, and Matthew 12:50 with Mark 3:35). If Matthew is right in doing so, then the Father alone is God. Was Jesus the Father? No! Because Jesus said: “And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.” (Matthew 23:9). So Jesus is not the Father, since Jesus was standing on the earth when he said this. The Quran seeks to bring people back to the true faith that was taught by Jesus, and by his true disciples who continued in his teaching. That teaching emphasized a continued commitment to the first commandment that God is alone. In the Quran, God directs Muslims to call readers of the Bible back to that true faith. God have said in the Quran: Say: “O people of the Book (Christians and Jews)! Come to a word that is just between us and you: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords beside God.” (Quran, 3:64)

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Old Testament: The Single Author Theory The Old Testament, or Hebrew Bible, narrates the history of the people of Israel over about a millennium, beginning with God’s creation of the world and humankind, and contains the stories, laws and moral lessons that form the basis of religious life for both Jews and Christians. For at least 1,000 years, both Jewish and Christian tradition held that a single author wrote the first five books of the Bible-Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy-which together are known as the Torah (Hebrew for “instruction”) and the Pentateuch (Greek for “five scrolls”). That single author was believed to be Moses, the Hebrew prophet who led the Israelites out of captivity in Egypt and guided them across the Red Sea toward the Promised Land. Yet nearly from the beginning, readers of the Bible observed that there were things in the so-called Five Books of Moses that Moses himself could not possibly have witnessed: His own death, for example, occurs near the end of Deuteronomy. A volume of the Talmud, the collection of Jewish laws recorded between the 3rd and 5th centuries A.D., dealt with this inconsistency by explaining that Joshua (Moses’ successor as leader of the Israelites) likely wrote the verses about Moses’ death. “That's one opinion among many,” says Joel Baden, a professor at Yale Divinity School and author of The Composition of the Pentateuch: Renewing the Documentary Hypothesis. “But they're already asking the question-was it possible or not possible for [Moses] to have written them?” By the time the Enlightenment began in the 17th century, most religious scholars were more seriously questioning the idea of Moses’ authorship, as well as the idea that the Bible could possibly have been the work of any single author. Those first five books were filled with contradictory, repetitive material, and often seemed to tell different versions of the Israelites’ story even within a single section of text. As Baden explains, the “classic example” of this confusion is the story of Noah and the flood (Genesis 6:9). “You read along and you say, I don’t know how many animals Noah took on the ark with him,” he says. “In this sentence it says two of every animal. In this sentence, he takes two of some animals and 14 of any animals.” Similarly, the text records the length of the flood as 40 days in one place, and 150 days in another. READ MORE: Discovery Shows Early Christians Didn't Always Take the Bible Literally The Old Testament: Various Schools of Authors To explain the Bible’s contradictions, repetitions and general idiosyncrasies, most scholars today agree that the stories and laws it contains were communicated orally, through prose and poetry, over centuries. Starting around the 7th century B.C., different groups, or schools, of authors wrote them down at different times, before they were at some point (probably during the first century B.C.) combined into the single, multi-layered work we know today. Of the three major blocks of source material that scholars agree comprise the Bible’s first five books, the first was believed to have been written by a group of priests, or priestly authors, whose work scholars designate as “P.” A second block of source material is known as “D”-for Deuteronomist, meaning the author(s) of the vast majority of the book of Deuteronomy. “The two of them are not really related to each other in any significant way,” Baden explains, “except that they're both giving laws and telling a story of Israel's early history.” According to some scholars, including Baden, the third major block of source material in the Torah can be divided into two different, equally coherent schools, named for the word that each uses for God: Yahweh and Elohim. The stories using the name Elohim are classified as “E,” while the others are called “J” (for Jawhe, the German translation of Yahweh). Other scholars don't agree on two complete sources for the non-priestly material. Instead, says Baden, they see a much more gradual process, in which material from numerous smaller sources was layered together over a longer period of time

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The Quran contains many Prophecies that have been fulfilled, The first two prophecies are noteworthy: unlike any other world scripture, the Quran prophesizes its own preservation under divine care, and we will demonstrate how it actually occurred. The Protection of the Quran from Corruption The Quran makes a claim no other religious text makes, that God Himself will keep its text safe from alteration. God says: "Behold, it is We Ourselves who have gradually revealed this reminder, and, behold, it is We who shall truly guard it [from all corruption]." (Quran 15:9) The Ease of Memorizing the Quran God has made the Quran easy to memorize: "And in truth We have made the Quran easy to remember; who, then, is willing to take it to heart?" (Quran 54:17) The ease with which Quran is memorized is inimitable. There is not a single scripture or religious text in the world that is as easy to memorize; even non-Arabs and children commit it to memory easily. The entire Quran is memorized by almost every Islamic scholar and hundreds of thousands of ordinary Muslims, generation after generation. Almost every Muslim has some portion of the Quran memorized to read in his prayers. The Twofold Prophecy Before the rise of Islam, the Romans and the Persians were two competing superpowers. Romans were led by Heraclius (610-641 CE), a Christian Emperor, whereas the Persians were Zoroastrians led by Khosrow Parviz (reigned 590-628 CE), under whom the empire achieved its greatest expansion. In 614, the Persians conquered Syria and Palestine, taking Jerusalem, destroying the Holy Sepulcher and the ‘True Cross’ carried to Ctesiphon. Then, in 619, they occupied Egypt and Libya. Heraclius met them at Thracian Heraclea (617 or 619), but they sought to capture him, and he rode madly back to Constantinople, hotly pursued.[2] The Muslims were grieved by the Roman defeat as they felt spiritually closer to Christian Rome than Zoroastrian Persia, but the Meccans were naturally buoyed up by the victory of pagan Persia. To Meccans, the Roman humiliation was a sinister omen of the defeat of the Muslims at pagan hands. At the time God’s prophecy comforted the faithful: "The Romans have been defeated - in a land close by; but they, (even) after (this) defeat of theirs, will soon be victorious- within ten years. With God is the Decision, in the past and in the future: on that Day shall the believers rejoice with the help of God. He helps whom He will, and He is the Mighty, the Most-Merciful." (Quran 30:2-5) The Quran made a prophecy of two victories: (i) The future Roman victory within ten years over Persians, something unimaginable at the time (ii) The joy of the faithful on a victory over the pagans Both of these prophecies actually occured. In 622, Heraclius left Constantinople as prayers rose from its many sanctuaries for victory over the Persian Zoroastrians and the reconquest of Jerusalem. He devoted the next two years to campaigns in Armenia. In 627, he met the Persians near Nineveh. There, he killed three Persian generals in single combat, killed the Persian commander, and scattered the Persian host. A month later, Heraclius entered Dastagird with its stupendous treasure. Khosrow was overthrown by his son, who made peace with Heraclius. Returning to Constantinople in triumph, Heraclius was hailed as a hero.[3] Also, in the year 624 AH, Muslims defeated the Meccans in the first and decisive Battle at Badr. In the words of an Indian scholar: "…a single line of prophecy was related to four nations and the fate of two great empires. All this proves the Holy Quran to be the Book of God."[4] The Prophecy of Pagan Defeat The Quran predicted the defeat of unbelievers in Mecca while Prophet Muhammad and his followers were still being persecuted by them: "Or do they (the Meccan disbelievers) say: ‘We are a great multitude, and we shall be victorious?’ Their multitude will be defeated, , and they shall turn their backs [in flight]!" (Quran 54:45) The prophecy was revealed in Mecca, but was fulfilled at the Battle of Badr, two years after the Prophet’s migration to the city of Medina. The Fate of Specific Individuals Waleed ibn Mugheera was a staunch enemy who openly ridiculed the Quran: "Then said he: "This is nothing but magic, derived from of old; this is nothing but the word of a mortal!" (Quran 74:24-25) The Quran prophesized he will never accept Islam: "Soon will I cast him into Hell-Fire! And what will explain to thee what Hell-Fire is? It leaves naught nor does it spare aught." (Quran 74:26-28) Waleed died in a state of disbelief as prophesized by the Quran. Also, concerning Abu Lahab, a fiery opponent of Islam, the Quran foretold he will die opposing the religion of God: "May the hands of Abu Lahab perish, and [indeed] he has perished. His wealth and gains will not profit him. He will be plunged in flaming Fire." (Quran 111:1-3) Specifically, three prophecies were made about Abu Lahab: (i) The conspiracies of Abu Lahab against the Prophet would not succeed. (ii) His wealth and children would not benefit him. (iii) He would die opposing God’s religion and enter the Fire. Abu Lahab also died in a state of disbelief as prophesized by the Quran. Had Waleed or Abu Lahab accepted Islam even outwardly, they would have disproved its prophecies and thus its heavenly source! In addition, Abu Lahab had four sons, two of whom died at a young age during his lifetime. The other two sons and a daughter embraced Islam and frustrated his hopes! Finally, he died of a plague; people would not touch his body out of fear of contamination and dumped mud and stones on him where he died to make it his grave. A key foundation to believing that a scripture is actually a revelation of God is internal truth, whether it be in regards to occurrences in the past, to come in the future, or in contemporary ages. As one can see, there are many prophecies mentioned in that which is to come, some of which were fulfilled in the Prophet’s lifetime, or have been fulfilled since his death, while others are yet to appear

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Official written copy by Uthman The Quran was originally revealed in Quraishi dialect of Arabic. But to facilitate the people who speak other dialects, in their understanding and comprehension, Allah revealed the Quran finally in seven dialects of Arabic. During the period of Caliph Uthman (third successor to the Prophet) differences in reading the Quran among the various tribes became obvious, due to the various dialectical recitations. Dispute was arising, with each tribe calling its recitation as the correct one. This alarmed Uthman, who made an official copy in the Quraishi dialect, the dialect in which the Quran was revealed to the Prophet and was memorized by his companions. Thus this compilation by Uthman's Committee is not a different version of the Quran (like the Biblical versions) but the same original revelation given to the Prophet by One God, Allah. Narrated Anas bin Malik: Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to Uthman at the time when the people of Sham (Syria) and the people of Iraq were waging war to conquer Armenia and Azherbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their differences in the recitation of the Quran, so he said to Uthman, 'O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Quran) as Jews and Christians did before'. So Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, 'Send us the manuscripts of the Quran so that we may compile the Quranic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you'. Hafsa sent it to Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin Az-Zubair, Said bin Al-As and Abdur Rahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, 'In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Quran, then write it in their (Quraishi) tongue'. They did so, and when they had written many copies, Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied and ordered that all the other Quranic materials whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt…" [29] Again a very stringent criteria was set up by this Committee to prevent any alteration of the Revelation. 1. The earlier recension (Original copy prepared by Abu Bakr) was to serve as the principal basis of the new one. [30] 2. Any doubt that might be raised as to the phrasing of a particular passage in the written text was to be dispelled by summoning persons known to have learned the passage in question from the Prophet. [31] 3. Uthman himself was to supervise the work of the Council. [32] When the final recension was completed, Uthman sent a copy of it to each of the major cities of Makka, Damascus, Kufa, Basra and Madina. The action of Uthman to burn the other copies besides the final recension, though obviously drastic, was for the betterment and harmony of the whole community and was unanimously approved by the Companions of the Prophet. Zaid ibn Thabit is reported to have said: "I saw the Companions of Muhammad (going about) saying, 'By God, Uthman has done well! By God, Uthman has done well!" [33] Another esteemed Companion Musab ibn Sad ibn Abi Waqqas said: "I saw the people assemble in large number at Uthman's burning of the prescribed copies (of the Quran), and they were all pleased with his action; not a one spoke out against him". [34] Ali ibn Abu Talib, the cousin of the Prophet and the fourth successor to the Prophet commented: "If I were in command in place of Uthman, I would have done the same". [35] Of the copies made by Uthman, two still exist to our day. One is in the city of Tashkent, (Uzbekistan) and the second one is in Istanbul (Turkey). Below is a brief account of both these copies: 1. The copy which Uthman sent to Madina was reportedly removed by the Turkish authorities to Istanbul, from where it came to Berlin during World War I. The Treaty of Versailles, which concluded World War I, contains the following clause: 'Article 246: Within six months from the coming into force of the present Treaty, Germany will restore to His Majesty, King of Hedjaz, the original Koran of Caliph Othman, which was removed from Madina by the Turkish authorities and is stated to have been presented to the ex-Emperor William II". [36] 'This manuscript then reached Istanbul, but not Madina (Where it now resides)'. [37] 2. The second copy in existence is kept in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. 'It may be the Imam (master) manuscript or one of the other copies made at the time of Uthman'. [38] It Came to Samarkand in 890 Hijra (1485) and remained there till 1868. Then it was taken to St.Petersburg by the Russians in 1869. It remained there till 1917. A Russian orientalist gave a detailed description of it, saying that many pages were damaged and some were missing. A facsimile, some 50 copies, of this mushaf (copy) was produced by S.Pisareff in 1905. A copy was sent to the Ottoman Sultan 'Abdul Hamid, to the Shah of Iran, to the Amir of Bukhara, to Afghanistan, to Fas and some important Muslim personalities. One copy is now in the Columbia University Library (U.S.A.). [39] 'The Manuscript was afterwards returned to its former place and reached Tashkent in 1924, where it has remained since'. [40]

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What is the Purpose of Life? So what does the Creator, Allah, tell us about our purpose in life? Allah states in the Quran that He created man to be His Khalefah, His trustee on earth (Quran 2:30). Mankind’s basic trust, our responsibility, is to believe in and worship Allah: And I did not create the Jinn and mankind except to worship Me… (Quran, 51:56-58) Very simple! The purpose for man’s creation is to worship the Creator. The essence of Allah’s message through all of the prophets also was: O mankind, worship Allah, you have no deity other than Him. (Quran, 7:59,65,73,85; Also 11:50,61,84; and 23:23,32). Allah further states that He made this life in order to test man so that every person may be recompensed after death for what he has earned: [He] who created death and life to test you [as to] which of you is best in deed - and He is the Exalted in Might, the Forgiving. (Quran, 67:2) But in order to worship Him, we have to know Him well otherwise we may form a distorted concept of Him and then go astray. In the Quran Allah tells mankind what He is and what He is not. For example, in response to a question about Allah that was posed to the Prophet Muhammad , Allah instructs Muhammad to give the following reply: Say (O Muhammad): He is Allah [Who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, nor is there to Him any equivalent. (Quran, 112) It is clear from this that Muhammad is not the author of the Quran otherwise he would not have shown that someone is dictating to him what to say. Also, Allah has to tell us how He wants to be worshipped, which He does in the Quran. He also tells us in the Quran that all Prophets came with the same identical message to their people - that is to believe in Allah and to worship Him. He also tells us in the Quran that all the people of other religions have deviated from the original teachings of their prophets. This is due to two reasons. The first is that earlier scriptures were not preserved simply because of the absence or scarcity of writing paper and so the teachings were transmitted orally and with time became distorted. The second reason is because the clergy of various religions introduced doctrines that were never there (e.g., the Christian trinity creed was introduced only after the council of Nicea in 325 AD and the Council of Constantinople in 386 AD). Because of the changes that crept into earlier religions, Allah tells us that He sent the Prophet Muhammad as the last and final prophet and guidance to mankind with a scripture that He promised would be preserved forever. Allah provides a test to prove that the Quran is from Him. Allah says: Then do they not reflect upon the Quran? (i.e. its meanings and its objective) If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction. (Quran, 4:82) The Quran is available for scrutiny and investigation by any person to try to find even one error or contradiction in it. In fact this test must be applied to any other scripture that claims it is the word of God

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How the Qur’an Corrects the Bible. There is a lot of commonality between the Qur’an and the Bible. Both Scriptures share many similar stories about the Prophets and also overlap in many areas of creed such as belief in one God, the existence of angels and the Day of Judgement. Muslims put all such similarity down to continuity in the messages of various Prophets whom were all sent by God Almighty. Some critics of the Qur’an offer a different explanation. They claim that the author of the Qur’an copied much of the content of the Bible, and so any similarity is down to plagiarism. 1. God did not grow weary after creating universe. universe The Bible makes the claim that God Almighty rested (and was “refreshed”) after creating the heavens and the earth: It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed. [Exodus 31: 17] The original Hebrew word used for “refreshed” is ‘naphash’, which means “to take breath, refresh oneself”. According to the Qur’an, God does not display these human attributes of weakness and fatigue, for He is truly Omnipotent. Hence, He does not need rest or to refresh Himself. This false claim is corrected in the Qur’an: And We did certainly create the heavens and earth and what is between them in six days, and there touched Us no weariness. [Qur’an 50:38]. Notice how the verse in the Qur’an matches, nearly word for word, the verse in the Bible. This surely must be considered a divine rebuttal. 2. Jesus is not God. There are some ambiguous parts of the New Testament which are interpreted by Trinitarians to mean that Jesus is God: The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him. [Colossians 1:15-19] When we examine the Bible holistically, we find that the attributes and personality of Jesus and God are so juxtaposed that they cannot be the same God. This is because Jesus lacks many of the attributes of God such as Omniscience and Omnipotence. The common way that Trinitarians attempt to resolve this paradox is to say that when God took on flesh in the form of Jesus on earth, He had a human nature alongside a divine nature. So the person of Jesus had two natures such that he was both fully man and fully God at the same time. Therefore in becoming man, God was subject to the limitations of human beings because of the human nature of Jesus. Once Jesus was crucified, resurrected and ascended back to God, he took on a new glorified, spiritual body. Now that he has taken up his place on the throne at the right hand of God, he is free of all the limitations he had when he was here on earth. Now there is a real problem with this explanation. The Bible explicitly states that God Almighty has an eternal and unchanging nature: Your throne is established from of old; you are from everlasting. [Psalm 93:2] I the Lord do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. [Malachi 3:6] So as you can see, this explanation creates more problems than it attempts to solve. You can’t have an eternal and unchanging God on the one hand, and a ‘person’ of Him, Jesus according to Christians, that is changing. If Jesus took on a dual nature, that is, a limited human nature alongside his divine nature, whilst at the same time still being God, then the implication is that in becoming man, the nature of God changed. When Jesus then ascended and took on a glorified, spiritual body, whilst still being God, then the nature of God changed once again. This conflicts with the knowledge from the Bible that God is eternal and unchanging. Here is a diagram which summarises the Christian claims and why they are a problem (click on picture to enlarge): dawah-diagram The Qur’an resolves these paradoxes and theological problems by portraying Jesus in the correct light: They have certainly disbelieved who say, ”Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary” while the Messiah has said, “O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.” Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers. [Chapter 5, verse 72] So, the reality is that Jesus is a Messenger of God, not divine, just like the other messengers sent by God before and after him. You can learn more about why Jesus can’t be God here. You can learn more about Jesus in Islam here. 3. Jesus was not crucified. Empty cross All the writers of the New Testament unanimously state that Jesus was crucified. The Qur’an claims the exact opposite, Jesus was not crucified but rather God saved him from this grisly fate: And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. [Chapter 4, verse 157] The Qur’an states that those who believe that Jesus was crucified “differ about it” and are “in doubt”. In other words, the claims of the New Testament about these events surrounding Jesus are not reliable. It would be truly remarkable if the Qur’an’s claims about the reliability of the New Testament were proved to be correct, when not only is the Qur’an in direct opposition to multiple eyewitnesses of the Crucifixion (as the New Testament claims), but the Qur’an was also revealed much later than the New Testament. Since the Crucifixion and Resurrection are the bedrock of the Christian faith, one would expect the information presented about these events in the New Testament to be in perfect harmony. When one analyses the various New Testament accounts of the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus, we find that they are filled with irreconcilable contradictions and inconsistencies. One very famous issue is known as the “Mary Magdalene Problem”, details of which can be found here. If the writers of the New Testament can’t even get the details of this significant event right, then it casts doubt on their credibility as inspired writers, and therefore the reliability of the New Testament as a whole. Why should anything that they recorded about Jesus be accepted as a reliable account? Mankind should rely on the Qur’an as an accurate and reliable source of information about the life and teachings of Jesus, peace be upon him, because the Qur’an is free of contradictions. 4. Defending the honour and integrity of the Prophets. falsehood The Old Testament paints a very noble and honourable concept of Prophethood: “…Have faith in the Lord your God and you will be upheld; have faith in his prophets and you will be successful.” [2 Chronicles 20:20] “Although the Lord sent prophets to the people to bring them back to him, and though they testified against them, they would not listen.” [2 Chronicles 24:19] Unfortunately the Old Testament presents the Prophets in an extremely negative light when it narrates their stories. No sin is too great for them to commit, nor is any vice beyond their lowly desires. Just one example is the allegation that David committed adultery and murder: One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, “Isn’t this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite?” Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (She had purified herself from her uncleanness.) Then she went back home. The woman conceived and sent word to David, saying, “I am pregnant.”… In the morning David wrote a letter to Joab and sent it with Uriah. In it he wrote, “Put Uriah in the front line where the fighting is fiercest. Then withdraw from him so he will be struck down and die.”… When Uriah’s wife heard that her husband was dead, she mourned for him. [2 Samuel 11:2-26] This is a real problem, as it goes against the very nature and purpose of Prophethood as defined in the Bible itself. The Qur’an defines the concept of Prophethood in very noble and honourable terms. Unlike the Bible, the Qur’an presents the Prophets in such a way that satisfies this ideal. For example, regarding David: And We had certainly given to David and Solomon knowledge, and they said, “Praise [is due] to Allah, who has favored us over many of His believing servants.” [Chapter 27, verse 15] And We strengthened his kingdom and gave him wisdom and discernment in speech. [Chapter 38, verse 20] In the Qur’an there is no conflict between the purpose of Prophethood and the Prophets themselves, as they are said to be the best of mankind. You can read more about a comparison of Prophethood in the Qur’an and Bible here.

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Sun Setting in Murky Water? Refuting a repetitive missionary allegation by Hesham Azmy Although we keep answering accusations of Christian missionaries against our religion and Scripture, they vehemently keep parroting them again and again as if we have not answered them already!! Jesus is reported to have said, "Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?" (Matthew 7:1-3) We will show here that what is in their eye is not just a beam, but a big wedge! Well, among the issues whom Christian missionaries use to object against the Holy Qur'an is the following passage, "They ask thee concerning Zul-Qarnain. Say, I will rehearse to you something of his story. Verily we established his power on earth, and we gave him the ways and the means to all ends. One (such) way he followed. Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: near it he found a people." (Holy Qur'an 18:83-86) Their objection is that how sun could set in a spring of murky water while it is over billion times greater than earth and can never set in a spring of a murky water! They persistently confront us with this objection in all their arguments concerning scientific aspects of the Qur'an. Well, we are going, insha'Allah, to answer them. I begin and quote the following biblical verse, "Are they not on the other side Jordan, by the way where the sun goeth down, in the land of the Canaanites, which dwell in the champaign over against Gilgal, beside the plains of Moreh?" (Deuteronomy 11:30) As we all know there is no way where the sun goes down because the sun is over billion times greater than earth . etc.. while if the meaning is that it is the way where it appears to people that sun goes down in, the objection will be solved. But certainly they accept such explanations for their Scripture, not for ours! Moreover, the verse is very clumsy as one of our Arab brothers notes , The text as you see is extremely clumsy as if he describes the address for a lost person: Where-the-sun-goeth-down St., Canaanites' City, leave the first plain of Moreh, right against Gilgal! Let's move on to another verse, "The sun shall not smite thee by day, nor the moon by night." (Psalms 121:6) We quite understand what is meant by the sun smiting someone, but what is meant by moon smiting?! Is there anything known - for example - as moon stroke?! Perhaps we should know! Our last biblical quotation is this, "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars." (Revelation 12:1) How can a woman be clothed with the sun which is over billion times greater than earth?!! This is indeed mythical! Now, we leave the Bible to discuss the objection of the missionaries. The verse says, "he found it set in a spring of murky water" i.e., according to his vision and sight that's why Allah does not say "it is setting". Imam Al-Baidawi notes, He probably reached shore of the ocean and saw it like that because there was but water at the furthest of his sight that's why He says "he found it set" and does not say "it sets". (Al-Baidawi, Anwar-ut-Tanzil wa Asrar-ut-Taw'il, Volume 3, page 394. Published by Dar-ul-Ashraf, Cairo, Egypt) Imam Al-Qurtubi states, Al-Qaffal said: It is not meant by reaching the rising or setting of the sun that he reached its body and touched it because it runs in the sky around the earth without touching it and it is too great to enter any spring on earth. It is so much larger than earth. But it is meant that he reached the end of populated land east and west, so he found it - according to his vision - setting in a spring of a murky water like we watch it in smooth land as if it enters inside the land. That is why He said, "he found it rising on a people for whom we had provided no covering protection against the sun." (Holy Qur'ân 18:90) and did not mean that it touches or adheres to them; but they are the first to rise on. Al-Qutabiy said: Probably this spring is a part of the sea and the sun sets behind, with or at it, so the proposition takes the place of an adjective and Allah knows best. (Al-Qurtubi, Al-Game' le Ahkam-el-Qur'an, Volume 16, page 47. Published by Dar-ul-Hadith, Cairo, Egypt. ISBN 977-5227-44-5) Imam Fakhr-ud-Deen Ar-Razi states, When Zul-Qarnain reached the furthest west and no populated land was left, he found the sun as if it sets in a dark spring, but it is not in reality. The same when sea traveler sees the sun as if it sets in the sea if he cannot see the shore while in reality it sets behind the sea. (Ar-Razi, At-Tafsir-ul-Kabir, Volume 21, page 166) Imam Ibn Kathir states, "Until, when he reached the setting of the sun" means he followed a certain way till he reached the furthest land he could go from the west. As for reaching the setting of the sun in the sky, it is impossible. What narrators and story tellers say about that he walked for a period of time in earth while the sun was setting behind him is unreal, and most of it is from myths of People of the Book and inventions of their liars. "he found it set in a spring of murky water" means he saw the sun according to his vision setting in the ocean and this is the same with everyone ending to the shore seeing as if the sun sets inside it (i.e. the ocean). (Ibn Kathir, Tafsir-ul-Qur'ân Al-'Azim, Volume 5, page 120. Published by Maktabat-ul-Iman, Mansoura, Egypt)

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It's an optical illusion. I can see the sun set in between 2 of my fingers. I saw the sun set in the puddle when i walked on the street. It's the reflection of the sun setting in the water. I can see the sun set in a bowl of water.

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Finding and Following Jesus: The Muslim Claim to the Messiah Jesus was “God’s word conveyed to Mary and a spirit from him” (Qur’an 4:171) but he remained only the son of Mary (Qur’an 5:110), not of God. The Qur’an understands literally the notion of a son and therefore rejects a consort for God (Qur’an 6:101; 72:3) who has no son, only honored servants (Qur’an 21:26). There are no saviors, only prophets who warn. Nor are there any intercessors-unless God wills otherwise. He alone has the power to forgive sins and to answer His creatures’ prayers for help and guidance.Yesous Yeshu‘a, rendered ‘Joshua’ in English. The Hebrew original contains the idea of being a savior. ‘Isa has no meaning in Arabic or in Hebrew and its use might startle Christians since they expect Yeshu‘a or Yesu‘a to be the relevant Arabic transliteration. God made Jesus and his mother ayah) for humanity, a mercy (rahmah) from God, his miraculous birth “a matter foreordained” (Qur’an 19:21). Muslims proclaim Jesus as a sign of God (ayatu Allah) for all humanity (Qur’an 19:21) but not a (or the) son of God. The Qur’an also calls Muhammaﷺrahmah to all the worlds (21:107) and eulogizes the Word of God as a mercy and healing for believers (17:82; 41:44). The Greek Christos (anointed one) is a translation of the Hebrew meshiakh, meaning someone selected for a sacred role or special honor. It can refer to any chosen or regal personage. Al-Masih is probably an Arabic transliteration of the Hebrew. But what does al-Masih mean or intend in the Qur’an? The Arabic verb ma/sa/ha, like its virtually identical Hebrew cognate, means to rub lightly with water or oil; formal washings before Muslim ritual prayers require this light touch or anointment with water (Qur’an 5:6). The Qur’an’s description of Jesuعليهالسلامal-Masih ‘Isa ibn Maryam (3:45). In Judaism, ‘the Christ’ functions as an indefinite description since the identity of the true claimant must be distinguished from false pretenders. The referent of the phrase remains disputed: Jews are still waiting for the messiah. In first-century Palestine, the messiah’s lineage and identity were topics of fierce sectarian dispute. The self-segregated Qumran community expected two messiahs, one royal (of Davidic descent) and one priestly. In prophecy, an indefinite description is made partly definite; a proper name may or may not supplement the title. Thus, “His name is Ahmad” (Qur’an 61:6) can function as an attributive adjectival appellation or merely a proper (nominal or content-less) name while “His name is John” ( Yahya; Qur’an 19:7) simply introduces a proper name. The Qur’an denies the crucifixion (4:157), a fact that further defines the Messiah. God would not permit such a one to die a shameful death. In later Muslim piety, Jesu was ‘translated,’ a technical Christian term for describing ascent into heaven, without the normal precondition of bodily death. Allah exalted Jesus to himself. The Qur’an’s denial of Jesus’ crucifixion obviates the need for his resurrection but the Islamic scripture attests to Jesus’ ascension, understood as his miraculous entry into heaven through God’s direct intervention (see Qur’an 3:55; 4:157-8; 5:116-117). Only Luke mentions the Ascension of the risen Christ (24:50-51) after his resurrection and adds in Acts (1:1-3) that this event took place forty days after his resurrection. (Mark 16:19 mentions it too but this passage is absent from the most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses.) IV. The New Testament Jesus in the Light of the Qur’an The New Testament writers considered Jesus to be the messianic descendant of King David . For Christians, Jesus’ humiliating death was simply a fulfillment of divine prophecy: he was innocent of the accusations made against him by the establishment. While claiming that Muhammad’s advent was promised in antecedent scripture, the Qur’an never calls Jesus the promised messiah. This may be because the Qur’an recognizes at best only the Torah (Pentateuch of Moses) as scripture. For Jews, the Masoretic text of the Hebrew Bible, what Christians effectively dismiss as the ‘Old’ Testament, has three levels of holiness. After the Torah, the prophetic oracles quoting direct divine speech form the second holiest portion, the Nebi’im (Prophets) division. The messianic prophecies are concentrated here but, as in the third portion, the Ketub’im (Writings), much of this prophetic material is humanly composed and has been partly corrupted in transmission and through unauthorized scribal amplification. al-Injil) to confirm the Torah (al-Taurah). The Qur’an reveals that the Gospel vouchsafed to Jesus was a relaxed version of the Torah (Qur’an 3:50). Some laws imposed on the Children of Israel seemed prejudicially rigorous but, the Qur’an explains, these laws were intended to be conspicuously rigorous-as a just punishment for their specific iniquities and persistent delinquencies (Qur’an 6:146). However, the Qur’an does not suggest that the Gospel was a law-free version of the Torah or in some way legally or morally superior to it. The Qur’an concurs with the sum verdict of Matthew’s gospel: Jesu Abba (heavenly Father) scandalized his Pharisee critics. The Jesus of the Qur’an enjoys a close relationship with God, despite not addressing him as Father. So long as the believer does not obliterate his or her identity but remains distinct from God, Islam salutes the closeness of such mystical piety. The Qur’an speaks of the signs of God in nature and human nature (3:190; 30:20-25). John’s gospel, too, sees the actions of Jesu In the Qur’an and the Prophet’s canonical sayings, al-Masih is the Lord’s anointed, an accolade conferred uniquely on Jesus Islam pays special tribute to Jesus but not in a way that would satisfy the highly ambitious credal and ecclesial requirements of orthodox Christology. For Christians, the Muslim Jesus is a dull, predictable figure, a mere prophet, of whom there are legion in the Bible and the Qur’an. He would resemble the harmless figure of the cultural Jesus whose message can entertain kids at Christmas and Easter. This may sound like a caricature or parody of the Qur’anic Jesus but the Christian point is that only the adult version is the real Jesus, the incarnate God who suffered on a cross to secure redemption for sinful Adam and all his descendants. The Islamic Jesus appears as the real Jesus but minus the distinctive and unsettling aspects of his life, nature, and mission. as a miraculously created being, appointed a prophet and messiah, the seal of the prophets of Israel, and essentially no more. Otherwise, the Christological deadlock shall remain permanent. For Muslims, the Jesus of Christian faith will remain a divisive figure whose mission cannot provide a basis for genuinely harmonious coexistence among the adherents of the Semitic trio of revealed faiths. The Qur’an envisages these three groups disputing in front of their Lord on the day of resurrection (Qur’an 5:48).Muslims are religiously obliged to demonstrate that Jesus himself preached only a pure monotheism. Only then can we prove that the Muslim Jesus was the true leader of the Jesus movement. No Muslim can take as a leader someone who rejects or compromises strict Abrahamic monotheism. This is an essential qualification for anyone who claims to be a leader or exemplar for Muslims. entertained the prevalent Jewish view, he would have seen his role as that of a revolutionary, a zealous prophet and a human messiah who would deliver the Jews from the political bondage of Gentile nations. Christian tradition has bestowed countless honorific titles on Jesus who, as Christ, enjoys the role of messiah, naturally, but also prophet, priest, and king. According to Christian doctrine, during Christ’s divinely willed but humanly accepted humiliation on earth, he was a mere servant under the law, voluntarily divested of his regal divine majesty; in his later exaltation as Lord, after the resurrection from the dead, he rose above the law. Leaving aside the Muslim caveat that Allah would never humiliate his messenger, did Jesus proclaim himself the Son of God and/or God? . Objective historical and critical scholarship on Jesus for the past 100 years confirms the truth of the Qur’anic portrait as both converge on a Jewish Jesus. Islam is not annexing or colonizing the Christian Jesus, merely rescuing the historical character from the clutches of later church conjecture and dogma. Christians are called to change and meet Muslims on Muslim ground since the entire Qur’an is unchanged and unchangeable. By contrast, both testaments of the Bible are widely acknowledged by Jewish and Christian scholars themselves to be mainly edicts that evolved over centuries, under human if inspired redaction, the texts being, in the case of the New Testament, in demotic Greek while reporting the classical Aramaic speech of Jesus yaqeeninstitute.org/shabbir-akhtar/finding-and-following-jesus-the-muslim-claim-to-the-messiah

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Im just wondering who writes these?

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this is spamming and it's bothering me , sure it will bother other people, stop doing it we don't want to become Zelatos.

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It doesnt bother me Alhoumdulilah

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Do I Have to Speak, Read and Write Arabic to Be Muslim? Although Arabic is the language of the Quran, the final revelation to humanity, and, as such, every Muslim should consider learning it a priority, there is nothing in the sources to indicate that learning Arabic is a prerequisite for being a Muslim; nor do we know of any recognized scholar of Islam who considers it a prerequisite for being a Muslim. The definition of a believer is one who believes in Allah and the angels, the Books, the Messengers, the Last Day, the fact that good and bad are decreed by Allah; as regards practices, a believer upholds the five fundamental pillars, namely, the five daily prayers, offering zakah, fasting the month of Ramadan and performing Hajj-provided one can afford it. Allah says, {Whoever surrenders his purpose to Allah while doing good works, they will surely have their rewards with their Lord, and they will have no reason to fear or grieve.} (Al-Baqarah 2:112) In conclusion: It is absolutely wrong to insist on knowledge of Arabic as being an absolute requirement in Islam. Shedding more light on this issue, we’d like to cite for you the following fatwa: As for making Arabic compulsory for all Muslims, this is a rather complex question. It is Allah who has made us speak different languages. He says in the Quran that this is one of His signs which manifest the greatness of His creation. He puts it on the same level as other signs such as the creation of the heavens and the earth. He says, {And of His signs are the creation of the heavens and the earth and the diversity of your tongues and your complexions. In all that there are signs for those who are endowed with knowledge.} (Ar-Rum 30:22) What is required of every Muslim is to be able to read surat Al-Fatihah and some other passages of the Quran in Arabic to enable him/her to offer his/her prayers. However, it is to the advantage of every Muslim to understand Arabic, because that would enable him to have a better insight into his faith. There is no doubt that you will understand the Quran and the Sunnah better, if you know Arabic. This applies to any work which you may be able to read in its original language or in translation. No translation could give an exact meaning of the original text because of the different associations and connotations of the words used in each language. Almighty Allah knows best. Source:

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I hope mr frank read all comments here. How many muslims here prays for him hope allah guides to islam. But mr franks first to be humble and admit the truth however difficult heavy to swallow his pride. Cos allah guide only those willing to submit.

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What happened, did David accept Islam, did he come back. I am in Australia, in a street dawah team as well, we can help if he needs it.

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Yes bhai, he did , alhamdullilah. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g52ahmeuraplqZY

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Taqabbalallahu Minnaa Wa Minkum

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جزاكم الله خيرا

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BIBLE AS GOD'S WORD ❓ Can God be the author of confusion and contradiction? i) I John 5:7 which hinted at the Trinity is taken out of every modern version of the Bible as it is not to be found in the most ancient manuscripts (that they have access to today). There is therefore no longer any verse in the Bible which preaches three gods as one. The Koran preaches that God is one indivisible, and not a trinity ( Koran 4:171) ii) II Samuel 24 :1 says that God incited David to number Israel . I Chronicles 21:1 says that Satan incited David to number Israel. God and Satan are not synonymous. iii) II Chronicles 36:9 says that Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he became king. II Kings 24:8 says Jehoiachin was 18 years old when he became king. A difference of 10 years iv) II Samuel 10:18 talks about David slew the men of 700 chariots of the Syrians and 40,000 horsemen and Shobach the commander. I Chronicles 1:18 says that David slew the men of 7000 chariots and 40,000 footmen Contradiction: one says 700 the other 7000. One says 40,000 horsemen(cavalry), the other 40,000 footmen (infantry). v) I Chronicles 9:25 says that Solomon had 4000 stalls for horses and chariots. I Kings 4:26 says that he had 40,000 stalls for horses A difference of 36,000. vi) Ezra 2:5 talks about an exile Arah having 775 sons. Nehemiah 7:10 talks about the same exile Arah having 652 sons. vii) John the Baptist contradicts Jesus. According to Jesus, John the Baptist was Elijah in his 2nd coming Matthew 17:11. John the Baptist denied being Elijah when the priests and Levites questioned him (John 1:19-21). viii) Was Jesus put on a cross (Stauron in Greek) Mark 15:11 or on a tree (Ksulon in Greek) I Peter 2:24 ix) John 3:13 Jesus says that none has ascended into heaven except the son of man who descended from heaven. This contradicts II Kings 2:11 which says that Elijah ascended into heaven. x) Genealogy of Jesus. a) From David to Jesus 41 names (generations) are given by Matthew [although he claims there are 42] as against the 26 names [generations] given by Luke [Luke 3]. A difference of 15 whole generations in the genealogy of the same man. Matthew mentions that Jesus was the seed of David through Solomon while Luke says that Jesus was the seed of David through Nathan [Solomon's brother]. This is a contradiction as the seed of David could never reach Jesus through Solomon and his brother Nathan at the same time. According to Matthew Jesus' grandfather is Jacob [the father of Joseph] while according to Luke it is Heli. xi) Luke doesn't claim inspiration of his Gospel by God. He wrote it because he knew of the events and it "seemed good to him" ( Luke 1:1-5). Also see I Corinthians 7:25 where Paul, in this specific case says that he's informing without God's commandment. II Timothy 3:16 is presented to "prove" that all of the Bible is God's inspiration, the above 2 references apart from the many others disprove that. The point is that the Bible itself doesn't claim to be completely from God (as a whole by name). That is what the Muslim point of view is also. Since God is all- Knowing and isn't the author of confusion, the above references cannot be from God. "How can you say that we are wise and that the law of the Lord is with us but behold, the false pen of the scribe has made it into a lie." Bible. Jeremiah 8:8 "Woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say:"This is from God", that they may trade it for some miserable gain. So woe to them for what their hands do write and woe to them for what they gain with it." Koran 2:79 This paper is not intended to be an attack on the Bible but is supposed to be an objective study and is recommended to be used as such. Indeed if similar mistakes were found in the Koran, I would gladly reject it as being God's word based on its own test: "Do they not carefully consider the Koran? If it had been for anyone other than Allah (God), it would contain many contradictions. " (Koran 4:82) May God guide us always closer to the truth. BIBLE PEACE: 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000 Syrian soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000 remaining Syrians . 2KI NGS2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and killed, presumably according to the will of God, for having jeered at a man of God. .2KI NGS5:27 Elisha curses Gehazi and his descendants forever with leprosy. .2KINGS 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we may eat him,' but she had hidden him