Efficiently Grinding The Warthunder Tech Trees In 2024

Discussing the mechanics to grind through the tech trees in war thunder after the 2023 roadmap. Please feel free to post your own tips down in the comments so we can all learn from each other.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Tech Tree Basics
07:18 Reward Modifier Calculations
09:45 Advancement Strategies
23:54 Premium Vehicles, Talismans, Accounts, Boosts
37:08 Closing

[@TimsVariety]

Transitioning from Props to Jets: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHq0pYmXfs9piqM

[@bfc2338]

Can we have a video on how to transition to top tier and not die to R-77s 16:34

[@torpy9212]

R77S?@@bfc2338

[@nagykiss6020]

If you pay for gayjin, you just simply ruin the game for everyone! If you dont pay, they need fixing the issues (br decomp, toptier meta mess, engine mess). Backlash, boycotts, reviewbombing works (like in creative assemly case), but the best thing is not paying for this shit.

[@randomotter6346]

Can we get a video on combat tactics for planes?

[@obycajnyneznalec1237]

vehicles have been sorted by BR in Arcade, thats why some of the placemants are wierd like the f8f or Fw 190 D9

[@dswngz]

You forgot to mention arrows. When there's an arrow between vehicles, the previous one can effectively grind the next one no matter the Tier gap between them. That's very important for minor nations that have huge gaps between the vehicles. Japan is the best example: you can effectively research R2Y2 with B7A2 or Type 87 with SUB-I-II.

[@swegmann2345]

You also don't have to use the cursed F4-EJ to grind top tier! Pull out the F-1 and unlock the F-16, then slap a talisman on that!

[@sumting258]

And there is another important benefit about the arrows, you have a 130% efficienty bonus! Which is why I use a variation on the unlock and spade everything way. I use the arrow/efficiency bonus as much as possible but avoid the bonus from the modifications on porpuse (most of the time) on that vehicle. For 3 reasons, first: I don't need the modification bonus to unlock the next vehicle because of increased research. Second: those bonusses from the modifications allow me to unlock vehicles behind a vehicle a don't want to play. And lastly the 130% efiicienty bonus (or any other bonus) doesn't aply to the modification bonus (as explained in the video). For example: I wanted to unlock the swedish T54 without playing the Challenger VII, so I used vehicles from lower tiers (even down to tier1) to unlock it by spading those lower tier vehicles. Very good video on many important tips, but I felt this tip was missing a bit.

[@jojojam753]

Its also fair to mention that if there is a folder, the folderd vehicle does not have this bonus to the next non-folderd vehicle

[@dswngz]

@@swegmann2345 This may have been a good advice few month ago, but right now F-1 sees too many uptiers. So I'd recommend either T-2 or F-4EJ, which currently plays 80% of games either in downtiers or against 11.3. I've literally unlocked F-16AJ yesterday.

[@sumting258]

@@jojojam753 Yep, that is true, however it does still receive the research bonus from the vehicle before it. Example from the swedish techtree: both the Comet I and T-34-85 receive efficiency bonus from PT-76, but as you mentioned, the T34-85 doesn't receive a bonus from the Comet I.

[@TacgnolSimulacrum]

Two tips that I think should be mentioned: 1) The bonus RP for completing a tier of module research does not get reduced for being outside the -1/+1 tier range. 2) When you unlock a vehicle and have leftover RP to allocate from a match, that *also* does not get reduced if it's outside the range. These are obviously edge-case scenarios, but it does make it very easy to unlock low tier stuff with high tier planes if you skipped over them or if the snail added them after the fact.

[@combatwombat2134]

The former, especially, is super useful. I've been using the tier unlock bonuses for the Strv 122A, B and B+ to quickly complete the CV90 Fin which came out after I'd gone past it and I've been sweeping up. Rank 8 might be out of effective researching range but the bonuses have absolutely barnstormed the unlock.

[@Kazuya68530]

It's really efficient in the way that for exemple you have a tier 3 vehicle that u play well and your already far in the tech tree (like rank 6 ). you can play your tier 3 vehicle with a huge booster activated, research a rank 1 or 2 vehicle with it. All the leftover xp goes to any rank vehicle you want. So, sometimes if u did well u can have like 5000k Rp or more to put on a high rank vehicle just by playing a low tier aircraft u love.

[@randomthings3776]

wait if I spade a vehicle and have leftover modification research that goes to the next tech tree vehicle im researching?? I always thought it was just wasted

[@TacgnolSimulacrum]

@@randomthings3776 no, the modification research left over once spaded is lost. But if you need say 10k rp to unlock a vehicle, but get 15k rp in a match, the extra 5k rp when you select a new vehicle to research isn't penalized for any rank difference.

[@LEGIONCABAL]

i used to exploit the latter strategy when sim rewards were still good. I would research some plane from rank 1-6 until it has like 1000 RP left and then i would take my ju 288 into a sim bombing match and absolutely hussle. after finishing the research on that particular plane, i still have like 200,000 RP left which i can allocate to any top tier vehicle, although youre not supposed to be able to effectively research top tier vehicles with the rank V ju 288. not really worth it anymore now, since they fucked sim rewards so much.

[@johncope1793]

Thank you for posting these videos to help make the grind easier. I just got the F104A today which is my first rank 6 plane.

[@CrustaceanAllergyEnjoyer]

Used to be mid, now it's very good

[@mikailvito7200]

I hate that plane fr

[@syfi9531]

F104 is probably the most fun ive had at that br

[@swynty5767]

F104 is actually insane, it's a king in down tier and can still hold its own in uptier if you play right

[@bfc2338]

It has a Vulcan, but other than that it’s not great

[@franklinplayz69]

just a note at 34:00 it is actually better value to directly purchase premium from the webstore instead of ingame

[@DGCastell]

Indeed! sale only happens there.

[@franklinplayz69]

@@DGCastell and it costs less compared to GE anyways

[@anginkentut1756]

I bought my first premium yesterday (mig 23ml) by pressing the order button in-game. The price is the same as on the website and i can pay using steam wallet.

[@charleslujan1038]

​@anginkentut1756 as someone who also bought it a few days ago, its both the best and worse vehicle i have ingame.

[@franklinplayz69]

@@anginkentut1756 yes buddy, im talking about premium time

[@Asto0031]

I grinded Most Rank 6 Jets with the F3D-1 because it gets an air spawn with two, 2,000 pound bombs and can get bases before anyone else typically. Good jet for anyone looking to grind the rank above it

[@niksonrex88]

I got a talisman for the A Sabre. Literally grinded all of the supersonics and Korean war era jets with it. Didnt play a single other F-86 lmao. With the A i could basically outmaneuver anything in a 1v1 if we started with the same energy. Its a good and very agile plane but has a pretty weak engine.

[@KR0LI0SIS]

A as in attack?

[@timothysmith160]

@@KR0LI0SIS he means afterburner?

[@PerfectedVenus]

Listened to it at x2 speed, I now know the molecular formula for RP

[@lucky7th331]

The 20 bucks for half a year of premium account is the best deal in the game (only on the store not in game)

[@teriyaki_joe]

its 40 usd for me, do i have to wait for it to go on sale?

[@lucky7th331]

@@teriyaki_joe It goes on 50% off a couple times a year, I think May Sales, Summer Sales and Winter Sales

[@OLidartz]

tricks I found are 1: when you find a good grinder, play it constantly until you get what you want, it may be dull but you get good at the plane, when grinding the MiG-29 i got so good with the 23 I got regular Ace matched in games full of 29s and F-16s. 2. play in the mornings when you can when you're refreshed and focused. I usually grinded before my late shift and could get around 120K RP in about 3 hours with premium

[@TheNaughtysheriff]

I like how you mentioned playing when you’re rested that’s a big factor in decision making. This game fatigues you fast

[@OLidartz]

@@TheNaughtysheriff unfortunetly and also i think the allergic reaction to Teamplay most seem to have is a result of years and years of hard grinding that kind of brainwashed us into this "me first" mentality. I do love the game but I also do believe it deserves the psychological horror tag

[@vasownedv1548]

content creators like you should really push gajin to add new game modes we badly need them for toptier even just having a game mode like 4V4 or something would be great

[@Ralphie750]

Especially at top tier, maybe even voice chat options for team members in 2v2

[@TimsVariety]

We try. MANY of us, not just me. Sadly, there are more than a few areas where the snail just brushes us off completely, and thats one of them. :-\

[@cherchezlesoir7166]

I only hear toptier. Sorry, the game needs interesting modes from the very beginning. New players dtart low , getting frustrated they will lrave. Too much focus on top tier, one of the big faults of gaijin

[@MrJohnnyseven]

​@@cherchezlesoir7166I hate "top" tier...you get your tank and within a minute you are toast,totally not fun and same with a plane. I much prefer 1930 -1945 tanks/planes.

[@magicmissile7533]

Great video Tim! I'm sure it'll be pretty helpful for a lot of people coming into this game. A tip i learned from Tankenstein here on KZbin which i think you should tell your viewers: *If you're planning on buying premium time and are thinking of purchasing GE to get it, DON'T, it's quite a bit cheaper if you buy it on the Gaijin store directly.* And on the sales throughout the year like the one we just had, there's usually 180 days of premium time for half off, which is an amazing deal.

[@FirestormMk3]

The grind is rough, even reasonable to say awful, even after the changes in air. The ground forces grind just went from hellish to an almost unnoticeably less deep circle of hellish. Truly contributes, at least I think, to that mode having the saltiest players and worst behavior, and deliberately crashing into allied bombers props for the "sin" of playing a bomber is something you won't get through a Saturday afternoon grind without seeing at least once. Ground is full of players rightfully frustrated at the game, wrongfully taking it out on each other.

[@Panocek]

Grind, salt and frustration are snail's primary monetization drivers so they aren't going away.

[@ChielVL]

The main problem in grinding ground vehicles imo is that fact that the higher you get the less effective your tank is when you first unlock it. You basically have to spend 20 games hoping for 1 or 2 kills in a GRB game when playing stock rank 6 or 7 tanks. It is the most frustrating thing in the world and it is not even due to a lack of parts and fpe but literally having a round that is so infirior to the rounds you unlock later on. Its like flying a dual engine plane but you only unlock the second engine after you gained 10k rp... Grinding tier 7 mbts with heatfs shells vs using apfsds rounds is so annoyingly frustrating that players just abondon toptier vehicles at all. Im a GRB main for usa and I am litterly researching top tier vehicles while im most likely never going to play them. I really hope they going to implement a system where once you researched the entire tech tree of a faction you can use those vehicles to research maybe the firsst 3 or 4 tiers of another nation just like they just did with the option to research helicopters with ground rp. Sorry for the long post lol.

[@Sol-Orion]

I think the grind for air rb is fine if you have premium. If you have premium time + premium planes it's an absolute breeze. Ground is a different animal entirely.

[@nicholaspratt8473]

The ground players TK'd bombers? That's an air thing. Maybe a Vor Tinder thing in general. They are more usually praise in ground

[@fluppet2350]

One thing I don’t see talked about lots is the fact that lots of more experienced players are staying lower in br. Players who have rank 5 almost fully unlocked will drop down into br 3-7 more often. With more med-high skill players at low br’s, the amount of times you get sent back to the hanger with no more than a few hits for xp drastically increase. It’s not really a problem with the game itself and that’s why it’s not talked about much but as a newer player trying to climb the British tech tree, it’s kinda crazy how often I encounter level 50-60 accounts. Edit: After going into the game for a while, in a 3.7. I have concluded that 50-60 was an understatement. Played 5 games and every one had 3-4 level 90 accounts.

[@matiastorres1510]

I feel like more players are drawn to realistic at top tier and arcade low tier is pace of match, and how top tier WEP is significantly different in the performance output.

[@nick4754]

Its also worth pointing out air ab will always be a better mode if you are a below average player, yes even at jet teir, a player whos averaging

[@fluppet2350]

What sucks is that i have found there are large amounts of far more advanced accounts with players who have been playing for years are playing a lot more in the lower tiers. I am not horrible at the game but I am by no means good. Every game I get destroyed and when i check the player cards, more often than not, the person who got me is level 80+ in a 3.7 br game. I know arcade is somewhat of a solution to this but to be honest, arcade and realistic are two completely different games and one is many times better than the other. I know its kinds dumb to complain about but damn, smurf accounts are annoying.

[@Thevegetableslayer]

Another good thing to keep in mind when purchasing premium vehicles: The crew train cost is significantly less to train a crew to an experienced slot

[@Paronak]

Yep, use top tier premiums to grind crew exp

[@wenferf8928]

I've already grinded almost 3 entire tech trees, but this video still clarified a lot of things lol. Thanks!

[@abdulmalikal-zahrani1536]

Thank you Tim, this video is really useful and helps a lot i really enjoyed the information you dropped on this vid and that makes my time faster when grinding keep up the good work tim!

[@MikhailTukachevsky]

I'd say a good strategy is to research the tier, choose 1 vehicle and get expert crew with all mods. Grind one rank ahead, then repeat. Use lines with folders and pick up a bf-109 e-7/xp-50 for some sl grinding (or bomb in sb for sl)

[@gendo1]

An unexpected surprise and I love these videos thanks Tim! Happy new Years brother!

[@davedalizard9539]

Hey there Tim, I love your videos, they’re always helpful in war thunder! ❤️

[@zawadlttv]

i have seen up to 6 vehicles required to unlock the next rank, but usually it moves around 3-5 with higher ranks needing less

[@franklinplayz69]

Unrelated to the video but I love the fact that the new cheater banwave has removed most instant flares in top tier so im actually starting to get missile kills again. Also not getting shot through bushes from 10km away in tanks anymore

[@TimsVariety]

I always smile when I see a new cheater banwave.

[@MrJohnnyseven]

Why do people cheat!! Are they so insecure that they lie to themselves that they "won" a battle?

[@MunitionsDudTester]

Once or twice a year you can get premium time at 1/2 off (normally around November / December for anniversary, winter sale, and even summer sale) and get a full year of premium for about $40. Larger GE packs and premium time are cheaper on the web store than on Steam/client. The easiest way to grind ground is to stay at a BR range of 0.3 of each vic (such as only 3.0 and 3.3 vics) and stick with that until you have at least 3 vehicles of the next rank before moving up. Having more things to spawn in = more team contribution which = higher chance of winning which = those nice bonuses Tim was mentioning. Don't get that first shiny new vehicle in the next rank and be a "one-death leaver".

[@muhatmaandy1984]

Thanks for this. Useful for someone like me that has played this game for years but without much thought or strategy, only a few times a week and now wants to start the grind properly!!

[@pfdes]

great vid, very informative and complete with no bs. thank you!

[@kalui96]

Thank you kindly Tim I shall refer to this guide until further notice going forward into 2024

[@terrified057t4]

Surprised Assault was mentioned, it's fun (if broken) but obviously forgotten by Gaijin and the community.

[@norske_ow3440]

I do it every day for the boosters. Quick tip if anyone doesn’t know: queue all regions to help with the sometimes painfully long queue times

[@PTParatrooper]

My friend Tim - just wanted to tell you I watched all your videos in this channel and left a like. Happy 2024!

[@Anti-Villain-Wolf]

Thanks for the video Tim! Really wish I knew about your channel 2 or 3 years ago when I started playing this game. Have a happy New Year!

[@TimsVariety]

o7

[@airadve]

tbh i would courage most people to get premi8um time every yearly sale, its only like $3 per month and if more people buy in gaijin will be less aggressive with marketing

[@crumbumcomedy666]

It may be my ADHD but these here videos are THE ones to watch if your first starting. I've been playing for over 10 years in this video just made me get it lmao I hope you don't mind that your videos will be playing in the background of my life lol

[@airbornegr4815]

Buying 90/180/360 days with 50% is the best! It's dirt cheap, you get great value for your money and you support your favorite game

[@GooberD]

I did my American air tree very wierdly. I went down the bomber line as fast as I could, first for the B57, then for the Thud (MY BELOVED). I would exploit breaks in the TT lines and differing lengths of certain lines to get to the next rank for bombers faster. I used the first B25 until I researched the B24 liberator. Why, you may ask? Because I am a slave to Gaijin and refuse to by GE or do anything of logic. Working towards the F15 (RAHHHHH🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅) using my F111(MY BELOVED RAHHHHHH).

[@Boris_The_Turtle]

An additional tip for more experienced players: During special events where Gaijin offers those Silver Lion loot boxes, it is very much worth it to open them solely for boosters (and backups if you play ground rb). If you are using a premium account and/or premium vehicle, you will very quickly make up for the Silver Lion cost with the boosters it provides, in addition to a ton more Research Points.

[@turgeon1235]

I would rather expert crews on vehicles with those SLs than spend it on the loot crates. Expecting a crew is more permanent

[@piscessoedroen]

@@turgeon1235 i guess what he meant by experienced players are those who already have tens of millions of SL saved. there's fuckton of those guys

[@derheiligespaten435]

Touching on the "Spading everything" advancement strategy that you talked about: It is relatively hard to impossible to grind out and buy all modifications and still be able to buy and crew the next vehicle. I do this most of the time and I found that even if i'm really good with one vehicle, unless I have a high SL booster, the SL I earn during the grind will barely ever be enough for the purchase cost of the next vehicle. I tend to grind all of the fighters first and spade them as I go. When I have to farm SL I'm researching the attackers and bombers. That way I still research every vehicle but I don't play the ones I don't like to play and still maintain enough SL to buy the ones I'm interested in. I usually buy bombers when there's a SL sale, so I'll only pay half price.

[@RimCheck]

This is what I do. I only buy a new vehicle after I spade the one I am using and the next one I buy is one I like and fits into a lineup. Dont buy vehicles that don't complete a lineup. Work on spading one vehicle at a time. While you unlock all those around it. This is a game to have fun on also. You normally get battle trophies when you spade out a vehicle I have 8 talismans this way. Even f2p I had enough sl even before the economy changes. Wagers and boosters are useful. Points for caps mean more then kills. Cheers.

[@malcolmmorris3947]

you don't need to buy the modifications to get the bonuses, you can fly the plane stock the entire time or only buy important things like missiles/bombs. flight performance will be a little worse but that doesn't matter if you are never going to fly it afterwards. You are also increasing the repair cost of the plane with every one you buy. same with the crew, never buy the crew qualification unless you plan on playing the thing long-term. it super helpful to have, but just a massive waste of credits if you only play the thing for a few days.

[@LokirofRoriksted]

Not trying to be rude, but are you at early ranks? (1-3) There are some tactics to farm and medals to achieve that will greatly help the grind If SL is a problem early on

[@derheiligespaten435]

@@LokirofRoriksted No, I mostly play 6-8. I know that you can get SL more easily on lower ranks but on high tier it's actually quite hard to come by

[@DISRUPT_WT]

Additionally you should never fully spade the last vehicles in your tech tree until an update releases so that you do not throw away your tier rp bonuses. You can also strategically have tiers ready to complete so you can spade multiple vehicles very quickly when new vehicles release and get lots of bonus rp to shorten the grind or outright unlock new vehicles.

[@Shankmeyster]

Started playing again this year and been grinding air trees. Got my first tier 8 this summer and now have multiple. Grinding into MiG 29 next after F15.

[@appendix_gang2245]

I just started playing War Thunder this week, your videos have been a life saver

[@jamesdap2793]

Another awesome video by war thunder's most informative content creator. Always a good day when I see a new one of these videos. Hope the new year goes well for you Tim and that you finally get recognised for your efforts by the Snail.

[@anydaynow5595]

This video is insanely helpful thank you so much.

[@overtigo5d]

Nice video thanks for all the info. Played a good amount, mostly air arcade up to about 5.0-6.0 with the US, with some of the other nations. Took probably 2 years off and thinking about getting back into it. Talk about a steep learning curve with this game. Thank you for clarifying the progression on what planes help gain RP while grinding out a tier. Not really the best player but feel pretty comfortable in the 3.0-4.0.

[@EricThyKaiser]

In tanks they also foldered a bunch. The panther G used to not be foldered that got foldered. German bmp1 got foldered, TAM2C got foldered tanks also had their trees changed

[@weefyman7330]

Thanks bud, so much detail there, i didnt know some of it, gg.

[@derek96720]

Every time i come back to this game, my previously grinded lines have been expanded and broken by more plane variants in folders. Gaijin knows full well why they're doing this and so do we. Good luck reaching any of the higher ranks without premium in any reasonable amount of time.

[@frostedbutts4340]

Make sure you make the most of the SL crates! They give a stupid amount of backups and RP boosters, both of which add up to a huge amount more research while you do the event.

[@duckmartin9853]

I think they need to rework the converting GE to RP rate from 45 RP per GE to 100 RP per GE !!

[@kennethknecht9179]

Super informative. Ty

[@DGCastell]

Thank you for this well-put informative video! I concur that premium time is the best bang for the buck, mostly if you get in on sale like I did: 360 days for $40 USD.

[@altaccount4697]

5:13 Hey Tim, great video overall. I believe you may have misspoke here though; the bonus you get is 414 RP, the 2070 is the total cost of all the modifications in that tier (required to get the bonus).

[@niksonrex88]

If you dont have a premium account, turn off the auto repair thing!!! This has saved me so much money over the years. Especially if you play GRB a lot. A whole line up that you play could cost about 50k to repair, but if you only wanted to play it once with friends or something theres no need to repair those vehicles. I had it turned off even with premium but now when they changed it to compensate for any SL losses after a bad game, if you have it turned off you dont get compensated. So turn it on if you have premium. It adds up seriously.

[@Dedalus94]

Huh, I can't believe I finished US air before Tim. I mean... I have almost nothing else in any of the other nations... but it's still cool to find out lol.

[@shabah2644]

Hey Tim, another great video. One thing, though that you didn’t mention that I feel like is worthy of talking about is when it comes to grinding a tree it’s important to know what you want to play and what you don’t care about. For example, I recently unlocked the leopard 2a7v and I consider myself at top tier for German ground forces. However, I stopped grinding the tank destroyer line for Germany around the time you got the first missile carrier. I just didn’t really care too much about these vehicles because they aren’t really all that meta-and I don’t really feel like using them granted I know that the missile weasel is quite good and cheesy but I just don’t care about it enough for me to grind it right now instead, I decidedI’m going to start using ground research for helicopters because I really want the tiger helicopter so I would advise people grinding out a text to figure out if a certain line of vehicles is interesting to them and if it isn’t don’t bother grinding it more than you have to for rank progression.

[@gorak74]

I’ve been playing war thunder for the past few months and the tech trees are really confusing me. Thanks for making this video I should be able to get my head round it a bit easier. Subscribed to your channel for future help.

[@TimsVariety]

I've got totally bingeworthy playlists to check out too ;-)

[@Gunz1234]

hey wat tech tree have u got? ND what progress u are at

[@Aaronschannels]

I’m happy that they seemed to soften the repair cost

[@axxproer]

thanks you just opened my eyes thanks

[@DaveyCooter]

Great video Tim! Ive been playing since the closed beta as well. A couple things Id add: If youre just trying to progress through the tech trees to get to something in the top teir, you have to pay attention to those arrows between the vehicles. Some of the trees have spots where you do not need the vehicle before it. You can also pay attention to how many vehicles in each rank you need, and see if you can grind to top teir by just following 2 or 3 "branches". The foldered vehicles help a lot with this. I also dont recommend buying premium time when it isnt on sale. During this holiday sale, GE was on sale on War Thunders website, and at the same time a year of premium time was on sale, which made it a very good deal. I also dont recommend someone hop right into a top teir jet premium for air battles if you dont have that much time into the game. During this last sale, ive seen a lot of very irritated new players jump into the top teir and repeatedly die with little to no points. It was a great point to add using a talisman on a vehicle you grind well with. I did that when the Thunderchief came out and ground most of the jets out by bombing bases faster than anyone else.

[@joshuacrafts9284]

The only thing I would add onto that great vid is the use of RP and SL Boosters, (either from the warbond shop, the daily login rewards, or from events) assuming you're doing a grind session those are always super helpful.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

My biggest top tip after playing this game for like 10 years now is to concentrate on playing just to have fun rather than getting your reward from the next unlock... Because that's a very quick way to get frustrated and turn toxic and we shouldn't let Gaijin do that to us in our leisure time.

[@True_Draconian]

Wow I like your tutorial video ,you talk slow and put example that help highly thank you for existing

[@angrytigermpc]

My tip is to keep in mind that one thing all WT content creators seem to say: Try not to view the tech tree as the end goal, or rather don't measure your enjoyment of the game based on how quickly you're progressing down it. Yeah, there'll be some combinations of nations, vehicle type, and tech level that are absolute slogs, but there's plenty of fun to be had at most levels. Rank 2-3 ground is tons of fun because there's a ton of variety in both what you can drive and what you can face, things are relatively fast paced, and there aren't as many mechanics to worry about as there are in Cold War+ era stuff.

[@CheesyBloke]

The set number of vehicles you need per rank is usually 6 with a few exceptions like im pretty sure rank 6 or 7 in japan you only need 1

[@il_nam]

Really cool video 👍

[@gaijinbroken6571]

grind strat: >put on bombs >fastest plane possible >win

[@smokingsnek4497]

>get top tier >fail miserably because you bombed yourself to top tier and be bad at the game >mald on forums/reddit

[@angus6678]

​@@smokingsnek4497> stop playing

[@piscessoedroen]

i bombed my way to MiG-19S and 21MF (21SMT was the toptier at that time) because i was so dogshit at fighting and somehow actually got good at toptier after a week which in turn made me good at midprops too after like a full year of grinding germany using MiG-21MF

[@allorfh2495]

would rather suck at playing my desired vehciles than not playing them at all@@smokingsnek4497

[@gaijinbroken6571]

@@smokingsnek4497 Top tier is garbage, just play

[@alexanderh.3655]

Another benefit of premium vehicles is that they to train a crew only cost 10k SL. Thereby you can put them on different crews during the grind to get some crew xp :)

[@drderper]

Good video in general. I wanted to add a caveat with premie time; if you expect to be able to play consistently, pay for it consistently (or atleast at every big sale, and can do that regularity that other equivalent MMOs require, then it is the most efficient. If this is a game you do not play and pay consistently, pack premiums are the better option. Not only do they come with premium for a bit, they suit those that play something else consistently, only play in shorter bursts (like due to work or preference, etc), or any number of other situations. The premium vic will always be there if you want to play the game whenever you can. Also I found the comment about an Italian main wanting to switch for the F-104 funny :). Good video and solid explanations of the mechanics!

[@MotWIsildur]

Any chance you'd do a video showing off everything you've unlocked from all the nations? Would love an overview video of your progress unlocking stuff. As always thanks for the awesome videos!

[@Kraus-]

Backups can be activated in game now which is a huge improvement. You don't have to permanently allocate them to a vehicle with the possibility of never using them. Also the number of vehicles required to unlock the next rank isn't a constant based on the rank value. It's based on the number of vehicles in that rank, so less are required in a small tech tree. I wonder if putting vehicles in folders lowers the requirement.

[@CaptainGrief66]

I really wish WT went the extra mile and added some more things to make the grind easier like giving 2x exp on weekends or during festivities (or for the first match of the day with that vehicle) like World of Tanks used to do or how Armoured Warfare does it or _especially,_ take something i love about Armoured Warfare which is a research bonus for every vehicle unlocked and owned for a specific tech tree, it would incentivize getting foldered equipment aswell Because, let's face it, unless you're B-Lining a specific top tier vehicle in a specific nation and ONLY PLAY THAT, it'll take you a while to get what you want, I've been playing semi-regularly (3-4 days a week of WT for a minimum of a couple of hours give or take) since 2017 if I don't remember wrong and I only recently got to 8.7 with both planes, helicopters and tanks (and 5.7 with ships) with italy, but I'm also at 5.0 with the US and Russia and soon with Japan too for air and ground trees (and ships), it's very inefficient BUT IT'S SO BORING TO ONLY PLAY TANKS/ONLY PLAY AIR FOR ONE NATION UNTILL I GET WHAT I WANT Anyway, I look forward for another year of Tim's Variety, happy new year everyone

[@LadyWrathOfficial]

10:15 you can actually play assault as much as you want, you just only get a booster for completing it the first time. its how i ground out tanks with bad shells in low tier, then once i had a better shell i went into GRB

[@dominatorandwhocaresanyway9617]

for the required number of vehicles: mostly 6, but if there isnt enough (like sweden) it can be as low as 3

[@l0v3r13oi]

Thank you.

[@t.sheets2798]

They should just link this video in the tutorial, and save people the trouble. Thank you!

[@josecoronadonieto6911]

From experience i find that the switch between arcade and realistic happens at around tier 3, as the planes start to get faster.

[@TheIsemgrim]

i got some premium a few weeks ago, i went from the mig21-MF to the first mig 29 on the german tech tree, i feel like they made it a bit easier to unlock new stuff. but the constant need for SL sucks tho. i had to go sealclubbing at lower tier with premiums to get enough SL to actually buy my new jets.

[@LokirofRoriksted]

You also get 15-40-100% exp if you manage to get 3-6-10 kills respectively, so its another good reason to use backups if you're confident you're gonna get those 6 or 10 kills. Its easier in arcade where everyone spawns 3-5 planes

[@andrewtorres476]

For the broke and/or natty: checking in daily for the battle pass has been very helpful for the bonuses. Even if I don’t have time to play a game I still check in to keep the streak and get bonuses.

[@kilo_kilo]

very helpful.

[@brandonbao7097]

It is highly suggested to buy Premium account in bulk during seasons. Such as Christmas where I bought 90 days half off.

[@LastGoatKnight]

I'm happy that this video exist but I'm so mad that I didn't got notification about this one. And this one will be useful to me because I grind the D4Y3 and the STB-2 currently 14:31 yeah, I did this afore mentioned strat but sadly my poor playstyle makes me spade a vehicle before even progress on my research. But I'll grind the living shit out of my J7W1 Shinden because my goal is the Kikka and I'm researching the A6M5 while I researched a bit of the A7M1 so I need like 2 more I guess, I don't know

[@gabork5055]

Don't forget it might also be worth going back because of the killcount bonuses they added recently if you're doing well and only need just like 1-2 kills for the full 100% bonus. I think they will end up nerfing the base RP gains sooner or later to balance out the rare good matches when it actually benefits you and snail forbid your team doesn't suck on top of that and maybe even win and the nerf is going to affect newbies the most ofc. still deep in the grind.

[@Gareth96v1]

I'll give it a try when I get a chance.. but on that Assault Ground/Air Arcade, do you have to win to get a booster? Or you get a better booster for winning?

[@timothysmith160]

that's a lot of money right there, boosters, back ups, premium.

[@ToastLord42]

I cannot believe I am only just learning about talismans +1 Sub

[@TheCloudCreation]

Sim battles are way too underrated. They give more research and SL per in game XP than RB does, plus practically no one plays sim so it almost always turns into a PvE match where you can effortless grind out XP without worrying about losing a bunch of SL from getting shot down in an expensive jet.

[@wapniak666]

Barrier to entry for sim is way too high for avarage player

[@TimsVariety]

@@wapniak666 I tend to agree. You need a pretty solid HOTAS joystick setup for sim, and for my 5cents its pretty painful without a VR headset.

[@DriftwoodJesus14]

@@TimsVarietyIn all honesty, you don’t really need any of that. I play on PS5 with a controller and I make 45K RP and 200K SL a game just repeatedly dropping 2 napalm on bases and maybe a kill with the premium AV8A (Not trying to arguing btw, I love your videos man, keep up the great work) I bind looking around to LB and it’s easy

[@moniamark]

@@TimsVariety why not just ose joystick(hotas) on the left side and your mouse on the right side so you can still look around and use the mouse buttons

[@TheCloudCreation]

@@TimsVariety I do agree on the VR, it's almost a requirement to dogfight. HOTAS idk I'm M&k and do okayish, I often have stability issues in prop planes and can't utilized rudder control to optimize my turns though, so I do want to get a nice HOTAS

[@tamasbenedek5318]

The quickest way to farm out a tech tree is to buy the max available tier premium vehicle+premium time.

[@AselevID]

I think the biggest tip to mention is to not get caught up in the grind, worrying about the next shiny new toy. Just play the game in a manner that you enjoy, and you'll get there.

[@squee317]

Do you have a Discord? Theres a shitload of KZbinrs that cover WT but you are the best quality since you dont shill and actually learn the nuance of vehicles.

[@TimsVariety]

I don't. I get asked all the time, but the simple answer is that I don't have enough free time to moderate a discord server. (Not that I'd want to censor anyone, but like .. our community can be toxic at times and I'd want to delete violent threats and shit like that ...)

[@soldat88hun]

>queue times it's a difference of a few dozen seconds, you can get into ARB in under a minute there is also a bug where if you unlock a module, the remaining rp goes poof if you are in a match

[@ak-1271]

I dont know if anyone mentioned it, but if you are to buy premium account, it is best to wait for sales and buy 180 days for only $20 through the game store.

[@danieljoseerrazurizjuarez1344]

I’m a very casual player. I only play sim because I care more for the feel of piloting a plane rather than just competitive killing. My HUD is off and all. I like it. I spent around 3-4 years on a normal account playing some months and some I didn’t touch the game. Always worried about my SL and got to the first F-86. After that I gave premium account a try and in around 2 months I’m currently unlocking my last jet before trying out the top tier. The difference is notable

[@lokifoki8071]

I finally deciden to put some $ into the game a get a 30 days premium after watching this video, very good stuff!

[@Gunz1234]

hey got a question hopefully it gets answered 😅 so lets suppose that im in the ussr tech tree for aviation and i want to get the Su-25 Strike Aircraft which usnin rank VI. so the question is that do i need to unlock the planes in rank V IV III II? from the start?

[@blarthunder]

Great videos and reviews, could you please make a video on the best planes for grinding tech trees? Thanks!

[@TimsVariety]

Well, which vehicle to use really depends on a person's individual playstyle. For example, for low tier soviets I could suggest the I-16 because its a fukn murder factory dogfighter .. but if someone isn't great with air combat maneuvering and prefers ground attack, it would be really bad advice, if you get my meaning.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

20:57 Air arcade is funny that while you can only use one backup you can use as many planes as you have in your "garage"... So yes it is very pay to win but I love it as you can have a top teir premium and play with all you other teirs even teir 1 reserves. Which you can win a match this way by getting manuver,surpise kills and ground targets... Which most Air AB match will devolve to the lower teirs because of that... So remember to always bring as many planes as you can into Air AB... Also atleast with back ups for premuims the snail loves to feed them to me so I never run out.

[@TAMAPEARL2411]

I just started to play wt. How do i lvl my crew? Mostly i start a match with 3 planes and i hit the point where i cant get the expert crew since they need a higher level first.. i would be happy about any advice.

[@lennonbueno7274]

I've been playing War Thunder since 2013 and didn't get a tech tree like you, fully researched. Never got a Premium Account (except for the 5 days i've got free at the game)

[@ICYFINISHERS_667]

Why am I here I already have the entire USA ground and air tree I just clicked😂

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

I fly sim controls with a gamepad in an Ace combat laylot in 3rd person in air acrcade at rank 11 with mostly premiums... Controls are not an issue the game modes, different fly models, different stuff simed on the frames, limits and rewards are the only main differences. Like if you want to fly full sim at rank 1 in air acracde you abslutly can controls wise.

[@TimsVariety]

Not everyone is comfortable using a gamepad for a game like WT. For me, and a LOT of others (based on forum and reddit comments), its basically a non-starter.

[@tshimmin3577]

Forgive my ignorance. How important are the crew points? And is making your crew expert worth it? Because it seems like the bonuses are minuscule and get reset once you move through the tech tree

[@patricktho6546]

4:00 with full tech trees like this it is mostly 6 vehicles neccesarry