EG4 6000XP 1.5 Month Update - Should you buy it?

[@kenfewell4200]

you should be in running the government.... common sense, practicality, communication skill...just plain entertaining and instructive. Thanks

[@rodneyhunt]

Government lol! Can’t stand any of them and definitely not spending time with them. But thanks!

[@tlteal]

Thank you for all of your videos --- I find / found them very helpful and really enjoying learning from you. I also love how "REAL" you are. Most of the youtube influencers seem to just do what I'd consider "infomercials" especially when they get free equipment from the company sending it to them in exchange for a favorable (biased) review. I love that you'll say it as it is --- don't change that!

[@rodneyhunt]

Glad you like them! Thanks

[@EastTexasHomestead]

Good Stuff, Rodney! I was shocked (see what I did there) to hear that there's no auto restart. One of my favorite things is how it switches to grid instead of turning off when we overload our three. Hopefully they will send out an update to fix the off-grid issue.

[@rodneyhunt]

Going to test again as Gavin says his single inverter auto restarts after 5 minutes. Maybe different in parallel but will overload a time it to see what it does. Maybe I thought it was longer than 5 minutes and it wasn’t

[@EastTexasHomestead]

I can try turning off my grid input and overloading to see what happens on my end as well. Let me know how it turns out on yours.

[@rodneyhunt]

Will do! Thanks

[@Mike-01234]

I think at least it would auto restart 3 times before shutting down incase your not home something is overloading.

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

Just retested. Parallel units will restart after 5 minutes. (5 Minutes gives compressors sufficient time to bleed off pressure)

[@realeyesrealizereallies6828]

Wow, hard to believe you overloaded that system, lol, that is pulling some serious power..I know you have a huge family, god bless you...I hooked mine up with my home made batteries and have to use a lead acid profile, which is mind bending...The display is crazy busy...But, I'm a fan of the EG4 6000 XP

[@rodneyhunt]

My car can charge up to 6600 watts at a time so that was probably the problem. Would still love the auto restart feature

[@beebop9808]

Good to hear. I finally got two of them received, probably have a third before it's all said and done. It'll still be another month before I get started installing though. Waiting on battery cells too. They're still out in the middle of the deep blue sea somewhere. I'll be using JK Inverter BMS' and hope that won't be too hairy of a startup. But EG4 talks Pylon and so does JK. Should be alright, we'll see. Just got my pv panels in yesterday. Little bit of a pain having to pick them up at the freight terminal and costed me an extra $200 bucks for help with the 1500lb pallet. But I didn't discover until this evening that I had 36 panels instead of the 30 that I ordered and paid for. Expecting to have 12kw in panels turned into 14.4kw (400w/bifacial). Dude, Signature Solar hooked me up! They will hear my appreciation tomorrow no doubt.

[@rodneyhunt]

Nice! I want to get some bifacials to test as well at some point!

[@stalwart56k]

A man after my own heart! I'm in the Piedmont Triad area of NC and also have an off grid system at my house. I went with Sol-Ark instead because I felt so burned by the older EG4 6500 xp units. They made my basement 80 degrees in the summer and failed after a year of running so hot

[@rodneyhunt]

Yeah these seem to be doing great especially compared to the previous models. Can’t go wrong with Sol-Ark but after playing around with the 18kpv during the install at my parents I think I want one or two lol.

[@kenfewell4200]

Are the sol-Ark similarly priced?

[@rodneyhunt]

They cost much more usually.

[@TimSams-p8u]

I’m currently running 1 inverter and when I overload it it kicks to grid. I run in off grid configuration but also have grid input. It automatically changes back to battery when it’s no longer overloaded.

[@rodneyhunt]

Unfortunately no grid input for me. Too far from my grid power and I would need to add a separate panel and move all breakers from main grid input panel.

[@randya9143]

I have two of these with a grid input and three power pros. When I overload them they switch to the grid until the load drops back down and they automatically switch back on to solar/batteries. Wire in the grid and have no more restart worries.

[@rodneyhunt]

Well my grid is not close and I would need to move all breakers in my main house panel so I can pull grid power with loads on a separate panel. Just not interested in that cost at this time

[@randya9143]

​@rodneyhunt It's always something, isn't it ? Welcome to my world! 😢

[@sophiegrisom]

Just bought and installed an EG4 6000XP and works. Mine has a grid connection (draws from, doesn't feed it), 7.7 kW solar panels in 2 strings (350 V, 12 A each). No battery yet (shipping) and no generator. Tried to download the EG4 Monitor app for my Android, but it requires a "customer code" from the supplier (InvertersRUs) and today is a Saturday. They didn't list cryptic number that on the invoice. Why not, since all customers will need it to use the app? Nor in the box (drop-shipped from EG4). I sent e-mails and voice-mail to both. Why make the customer jump thru such hoops?

[@rodneyhunt]

Not sure. Have you looked at FAQ on that site? Maybe try the company name

[@rodneyhunt]

If you buy from SIgnature Solar it us “Signature” but not sure that will help you

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

I’m not sure what surprises me more. The fact that your family can overload 3 inverters or that there’s no auto-restart on the inverters. Crazy! A 10k inverter coming up eh? Should be interesting! Thanks for the update!

[@rodneyhunt]

My thoughts exactly! Lol

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@rodneyhunt 🤣

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

What about a 10K?

[@rodneyhunt]

I am testing a 10k inverter that I will be making a series on soon. 👍

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@rodneyhunt EG4 or Calpha?

[@charlygrizel3399]

Thanks for the great update Rodney. I live in Jamaica and have to be considering/researching power options because of the instability of our dollar and the cost of electricity.

[@rodneyhunt]

Thank you. This inverter is a good option

[@charlygrizel3399]

@@rodneyhunt You have done an excellent job exploring them

[@charlygrizel3399]

@@rodneyhuntI truly love this inverter but can only afford the 3000 watt inverter. If you "happen" to have a 48 volt battery that you don't need or the capacity to give it away, I would greatly appreciate it.

[@rodneyhunt]

Thanks

[@rodneyhunt]

Maybe one day if I continue to receive products for review that won’t be used!

[@callmebigpapa]

Will all this cool tech you should have a solar hot water heater setup! Great video thanks for sharing.

[@rodneyhunt]

Well it does run on solar lol. But yeah that would be cool maybe one day

[@joetripp123]

This was an older video I missed somehow. 1:50 as you posted in a later vid - there's a ~4 minute auto restart. I 100% agree with you on the unit's display - let me pick what stays on there and stop auto cycling data.

[@rodneyhunt]

Yes! That would be awesome

[@grosjarvis8061]

You likely tripped out on low battery, although the display does not identify warnings/faults very well. All error codes in manual say basically same thing "restart inverter" . That often will NOT clear the issue particularly low battery as you have to come back above voltage/SOC threshold THEN restart. (Manual doesn't describe that fact) manual is crap for diagnostics and had to develop my own table/methods to clear identified faults/warnings.

[@JR-xw5dk]

But there may be something that could give an alert when power usage goes up. Signature Solar may have a suggestion.

[@rodneyhunt]

👍

[@ericbooth9584]

Always great information! Thank you!

[@rodneyhunt]

Thanks for watching!

[@stopdrpnro]

Can you do a video covering all the things you and the family run in the house?

[@rodneyhunt]

Yes. I have one but it was with the growatts I had

[@JR-xw5dk]

The sense energy monitor may be helpful. I have one and I wish it would identify more things. Most of the big things it knows most of the time but not all of the time. $350 with the solar might be worthwhile?? There may be something that would be better. Ask your viewers and see what they think.

[@rodneyhunt]

Will need to check that out. Thanks

[@JR-xw5dk]

The Sense will give you new peak usage, but it will be hours later most of the time.

[@rodneyhunt]

Oh ok. Thanks

[@EbanQHanna]

Hey bud, how much Ah’s of power do you have for the loads in your home? Also, can I install these inverters outdoors in a weather proof cabinet bolted to the side of a cinder block house?

[@rodneyhunt]

I have 1700ah or 85kwh of batteries. These are not rated for outdoor use so the 18kpv might be your best option. Not sure they would get the correct cooling in a small cabinet

[@EbanQHanna]

@@rodneyhunt the cabinet is 60"W x 48"H x 12"D

[@rodneyhunt]

I would not recommend it. You can ask EG4 or signature solar what they advise. But I would be cautious with that

[@grosjarvis8061]

Be careful with that, IMO as these units are extremely sensitive to heat. They do not like to run in environments above 85 degrees although data spec is higher. Basically, the real world use is higher the load, the lower the ambient must be for this particular unit, in my experience. Also, the unit efficiency drops considerably as temp/load goes up.

[@midwestfreedom2024]

We start with 3 battery's we found we need 3 more we can't get the app and the batteries to see all 6 batteries. What was your fix. We try updating all firmware?? What did you do to fix yours??

[@rodneyhunt]

So your system says 300ah and you need 600ah. Depends on your batteries but signature solar has an auto updater for the lifepower4 v1 tgat is free. That will update firmware which should fix issues. Also update the 6000xp if needed

[@cplbitterklinger594]

Excellent review, sir!

[@rodneyhunt]

Glad you liked it!

[@LONE-SOUL]

Would anyone advice against this unit for a moving vehicle like an, RV, Van or skoolie?

[@rodneyhunt]

Not sure if it is rated for that but I am sure it has been used for that. Diy solar fun with Ray might have a video doing that

[@GavinStoneDIY]

How long did you wait for the auto restart? The units typically take around 2 minutes to restart automatically after an overload. If you switch the ac output switch off and on they’ll restart immediately. But of course that’s not automatic.

[@rodneyhunt]

I have waited at least 5 minutes. Also SS said they do not have that option at this time. Hopefully they get a firmware update first this.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

@@rodneyhunt that’s still confusing. Mine always restarted. I need to check into it tomorrow again.

[@rodneyhunt]

@GavinStoneDIY Do you have ac going into inverter or off grid only?

[@GavinStoneDIY]

@@rodneyhunt off grid only.

[@rodneyhunt]

@@GavinStoneDIY Well I guess I need to start a timer and let it go first at least 10 minutes. But I have the email from Peyton at SS that an overload doesn’t restart without turning off the eps. Let me know if you retest and it still works. Maybe I will try only one inverter as well

[@TylerTheCompiler]

great update as always...what happened to that series on the "battery-less" operation? would love to get one without battery...

[@rodneyhunt]

Been busy but will try to get back to that! 👍

[@KoiAquaponics]

Ok Morpheus, it seems you found the One! Anyways, i'm about to pull the trigger on 3 units. Have you done any surge testing to see how it handles?

[@rodneyhunt]

Just normal home loads. Two HVAC’s, cooking, dryer, water heater, etc. Need to get a video on something with a big surge

[@KoiAquaponics]

@@rodneyhunt I saw some people install 2 service panels, one for all the line out from inveter, and one that feeds into a panel for all loads. I noticed you just have 1 panel, which makes sense, why go with 2 panels when 1 panel with 40 spaces will do. It all feeds in a loop anyways.

[@rodneyhunt]

Yes. Just personal preference really. But my panel has a mix

[@KoiAquaponics]

@@rodneyhunt So one side you have all the line in breakers from panel and the other side you got all the load breakers to feed the house right?

[@rodneyhunt]

Actually have mine on both sides but would be easier on one side. As long as you match up line one and two you can do both sides

[@blainecelestaine4543]

Thx for doing these vids. What do you think the realistic life expectancy of these are at half load. I don't think people will get the life they think they will. But no one keeps inverters longer than a year . They upgrade . So how do you amortize the cost.. great channel btw

[@rodneyhunt]

I hope that last many years. They have a 5 year warranty so I would guess that will last double that. Usually companies want a good margin for warranties but we will see.

[@clifflong7944]

Weird you didn’t go with the 17k….it has a much higher surge output.

[@rodneyhunt]

The 18k doesn’t have enough output for my needs. Only 12k output and the 6000xp’s have 18k output

[@amio_roseto1]

Great Video Rodney, good information, talking about. the growatt, what did u manage to do with them ?

[@rodneyhunt]

Nothing yet. Probably use at some point

[@URackADisciprine]

So you are not selling back to the grid but you are still grid-tied i take it? If so, how are you getting past the neutral ground bonding issues? Or are you completely isolating your solar system from the grid to a load center with separate grounding? Meaning you have to manually switch between grid and off-grid. I do not want to have to manually switch between grid and off-grid. I would rather run the inverters in a grid-tie limiter type of situation.

[@rodneyhunt]

Off grid only so no grid input or selling. 👍

[@glennwest4438]

Great uodate. Have you considered using one of the growatts seperatly for charging ev.

[@rodneyhunt]

Yes but have another inverter I am testing that I will probably use first that. Video coming soon

[@Darren-C]

Hey boss. These are just the calculations I needed. Thanks for the explanation! I’m building a larger electrical mobile unit out of an enclosed trailer I’ve converted to be powered by the 6000xp with 10.2kwh server no alternator charge tied. My biggest question is grounding the system in a mobile application with no grid tie. Is grounding to the frame fine because of wood blocks and rubber tires. Or do I need to tie the ground to a rod at every location. I’m worried times I’ll be around pavement only. Thanks again boss!! @rodney hunt

[@rodneyhunt]

Not 100% sure but I would think being grounded to frame would be normal for this type application. Would ask EG4 just to verify though.

[@Darren-C]

@@rodneyhunt Ok thx Rod

[@aroundtheshop]

The Display on those are far superior to the 3000ehv, But I also went to a separate app (Solar assistant)

[@rodneyhunt]

Haven’t tried the 3000 but yes it is definitely better than some I have seen

[@SavageScientist]

Yoooo, this is great content brother.

[@rodneyhunt]

Hey thanks! Long time no see

[@SavageScientist]

@@rodneyhunt , man im chilling i moved to Seattle last year.

[@rodneyhunt]

Nice! Good to hear from you

[@SavageScientist]

@@rodneyhunt yo same here,

[@ahowl7mx]

With 3 inverters isn't it more cost effective to get the 18K? Or did you build over time? Can you connect to utility without battery and use solar during the day and grid at night?

[@rodneyhunt]

More cost infective with 3 6000xp’s. I built first system over time but switched to the 6000xp’s at the same time. I do not have grid input for these inverters directly so nit sure about the battery question. I have run some loads with the batteries off though and it does work fir some loads

[@justinmitchuson8992]

Can I connect one of these to my 8 100ah redodos. I didn't know if the communication would be issue

[@rodneyhunt]

You can use lead acid settings and it should work as long as wired in 48v

[@michaelshin69]

I just ordered the 6000 like you to ipgrade my Growatt inverters. I am having trouble updating firmware on y Lifepower batteries. I am able to use the BMS app from EG4 but when I tried to do firmware update, it fails to get the information from the batteries. Thanks

[@rodneyhunt]

I had the same problem. I was able to just keep trying and found one battery that worked. Then move to the next one without closing out program and it continued to get information from each battery. I have a video about it

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

Check your data cable pin out.

[@michaelshin69]

@@theadventuresofarenaissancman I am using the one signature solar provided. It has two pin on ethernet end. Green and white. Is that wrong? It does read the battery info running EG4 bms app

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

@michaelshin69 on channel around July I posted a video, how to modify a read only data cable. It may or may not be your issue. I don't know if Rodney has a similar video for the cable. I'll try to post a link.

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

@@michaelshin69 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWiVlXyao92ce7M

[@secondadventmessengerminis3594]

What did you do with your Growatts? I’d like to consider switching to these.

[@rodneyhunt]

Nothing yet. Will use for another project at some point

[@P81OS2]

Great video, sir!

[@rodneyhunt]

Glad you liked it!

[@TheAnthonyBrandi]

can you use the wifi app without internet and just a wifi router hooked up? im in the boons with no internet

[@rodneyhunt]

You can connect your phone locally but not sure about router option.

[@rodneyhunt]

And these do not feed back to the grid. Off grid only. 👍

[@makemoney1894]

Thanx for all the info... Just placed an order and used your code.

[@rodneyhunt]

Your welcome and thank you! Really appreciate it

[@tjmooney4181]

Thanks 👍 I love these inverters

[@rodneyhunt]

Me too!

[@grosjarvis8061]

You haven't seen all the bad stuff yet...but it is coming. These units are "lightweight " not heavy duty like Outback units or Victron.

[@tjmooney4181]

@grosjarvis8061 I have had one mounted outdoors paired with an outdoor powerpro battery for over a year now that gets 100% humidity almost every night and it's had 0 issues

[@tjmooney4181]

They were outdoor rated when they were released so I put it to the test and has been perfect so far

[@wholev1251]

Been watching your videos on the 6000xp and have one on the way. Can you do a quick overview of the web browser and options?

[@rodneyhunt]

As soon as I get a chance lol! Been super busy but I need to make a Q/A video to answer several questions like yours soon

[@wholev1251]

@@rodneyhunt looking forward to it! Keep up the work

[@rodneyhunt]

👍

[@dave3005]

You really should do something about that rats nest of wiring you’ve got there. I would run it in conduit.

[@rodneyhunt]

Still have not installed PV wire conduit outside. Rather for it to be working if I need it than wait till it can look clean. But we are all free to do it how we like! 👍

[@kerryzubrod8868]

How many solar panels do you have hooked up?

[@rodneyhunt]

40 to these inverters so far

[@Skeptic100100]

Damn, you must be using some serious power. I am running my house off of one of these. Thanks for sharing

[@beebop9808]

Rodney's got 3 wives, 27 kids and an AC powered butt scratcher to boot. 🤣

[@rodneyhunt]

Lol

[@rodneyhunt]

Have 9 of my 10 kids still living at home so yes we use some power. Homeschool as well so here most of the time

[@Skeptic100100]

@@rodneyhunt 10 kids !?!?!? Holy cow, you really are a busy guy. My hat is off to you.

[@rodneyhunt]

👍

[@highmountainfarmersoffgrid]

Are you wishing you had one 18v EG4 instead of 3- 6xp? Thank you

[@tjmooney4181]

2 of these > 18kpv for off grid systems and for the price difference you get a 3rd as a back up 😉

[@rodneyhunt]

No. I am glad the came out with these. I would need two of the 18kpv for my ac output needs. That’s big money for two

[@jordanwitherow6324]

Would you recommend getting the Eg4 battery that needs the firmware update or is it worth the extra money getting the newer battery that doesn’t need updated thanks

[@rodneyhunt]

Just depends on your budget. The lifepower4 are a great deal but you may need to update. The newer ll-s may work without it but you could need to update any if them depending on manufacture date I would guess

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

@@rodneyhunt I can confirm that the LLs work without needing a firmware update. Rcv'd 3 last week and I only needed to switch the BMS to LUX protocol. The user manual explains how to do it.

[@jackwells1452]

Do you have to have WiFi to make the system work

[@rodneyhunt]

No. I use mine but not required

[@Mike-01234]

Signature solar has Free shipping right now

[@rodneyhunt]

Indeed! 👍

[@Mike-01234]

@@rodneyhunt I bought a 6000XP just now used your promocode got $50 off thanks. I noticed they raised the price to 1499 I think it was 1399 before like Current Connected probably cover the shipping. With your code and free shipping Signature came out little cheaper.

[@ry2456]

Absolutely need restart added. Freezers.....

[@rodneyhunt]

I does restart I found out. I was just impatient. After about 4 minutes they start back

[@kevinc9416]

Can I hook a generator to this to charge batteries and run house through this unit?

[@rodneyhunt]

Yes. The generator will need to be pretty big compared to the inverter size though. Might be better using the chargeverter gc to automatically charger batteries from a generator when needed.

[@kevinc9416]

Have a 6500 watt generator.

[@rodneyhunt]

You would be better with the chargeverter gc. To use the 6000xp you need a 10kw generator for one inverter. 2=15kw 3=20kw etc. Depending on how many you have in parallel

[@grosjarvis8061]

You can connect a generator to "share" the loads and charge is there is excess gen power available. You can charge automatically if you connect inverter style genset. inverter does not like non-inverter style gensets and overheats quickly if you use.

[@unijabnx2000]

Does the phone app work without internet?

[@rodneyhunt]

Yes if in bluetooth range! 👍

[@unijabnx2000]

@@rodneyhunt thanks for the quick answer. I havent heard anyone mention if you could connect and setup the inverters without internet .

[@rodneyhunt]

Well I didn’t try it but the manual says you can. I just went with the wifi since it was available for me!

[@robertkehlerjr.8258]

You got a lot of power and decent system but yet have not taught your family how to run the system … that’s your own fault for the system shitting down …. Teach your family how it works then you won’t have this issue …. Shoot I could run my whole house on 2 6k and have an abundance of power, and never have to worry about power. Teach them right then you don’t have to worry about your system.

[@rodneyhunt]

The restart after about four minutes! Found this out later

[@woolval52]

FYI, Signature Solar now has FREE SHIPPING until February 27th. SWEET!! I just set up my two LP4 batteries, a 6000XP and eight 400W Bifacial Talesun panels. I'm feeding several circuits of my house thru a Reliance 10 Circuit Transfer Panel. I must say, I'm very happy with my system so far. And with the free shipping I'm considering ordering another 6000XP and two more LP4 batteries. Although... my Reliance panel is only rated for 30A. Wish I'd have installed their 50A Transfer Switch panel but I didn't know about it when I ordered.

[@rodneyhunt]

Nice! Loving mine as well!

[@ScottieBMan]

Bro u are using some serious power lol 70kw a day and need more?! Lol

[@rodneyhunt]

Yes we are. Trying to ring everything as normal. Dryer, water heater, and cooking use tons of power at my house. Big family

[@ScottieBMan]

It’s good to have a big family, you’re blessed!

[@rodneyhunt]

Thanks!