NEW ZEALAND - A 'BREAKDOWN'...BREAKDOWN??

[@tamcurtis7950]

As a New Zealander and an avid ABs supporter, I have to say I'm embarrassed by that episode of "The Breakdown." That is not how we view our rugby. The ABs were outplayed by a far superior team on the night; end of story! It is now time for us to look at how we control our game under the rules and conditions that everyone else in the RWC are playing under. It doesn't get any fairer than that. Well done our Springbok brothers, you gave us lots of lessons to learn from. Sorry about our commentators.

[@chrisalheit3205]

Good man. You understand the brotherhood of rugby. God bless you. From SA

[@KernowekTim]

👍now that's a New Zealander proper. Bloody sound words.

[@nickvanrenen8052]

The shoe is very often on the other foot, so huge respect for that comment!

[@warrenbooysen]

I am a bok supporter and have toured before and encountered many NZ supporters. The best in the world and they know their ruggers better than anyone. They know a spanking when they see one and indeed were gracious in defeat. One sour grapes pundit show does not a true New Zealand supporter make ... more concerning is that SA did no one any favors by waking them up. See you in the final hopefully ... it's the gold standard fixture.

[@nepiahemopo1702]

Nah, the guy meanwhile generates discussion.

[@sidknee4975]

As a kiwi I watch SA commentary when ever I can and prefer to listen to the SA pundits more than any other. They’re the most impartial out there. Love your channel.

[@snowblak_tsl]

Lol I’m actually always fuming that our commentators never defends our teams unlike other commentators from other countries do

[@johankotze727]

You should try the Xhosa commentary, you have zero clue what they're saying but its soo entertaining to listen to.

[@Sikasays]

The SA pundits are impartial?! Having a laugh. No pundits are impartial.. They're all biased lol Rather watch youtubers personally (not all). Ps. The Xhosa commentary is absolute gold! Love the passion!

[@KR-jg7gc]

​@@Sikasays"the most impartial".. why do you choose to remove the words " the most " clownery

[@Sikasays]

@@KR-jg7gc fair enough.. I don't think they're the most impartial either.

[@wollieerasmus9444]

Hats off for the NZ fans who actually apologize for their commentators.

[@jessicakruger7]

As a South African, happy for the win, but always have and will respect AB's. To the AB supporters, back your team, they are always a force to be reckoned with. Great team, great players, much respect from a South African 👏

[@lioneldaniels6067]

.....like we do !! 🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@johnnyholtzhausen3493]

And what about their cheating tactics playing the man from offsides etc and always abusing the reff 😢😢😢😢

[@trickyjw]

You’re right. I’m a Kiwi and had nothing but admiration for the Springboks in that game. They outplayed us and brought pressure and physicality we couldn’t handle. I was surprised when I watched The Breakdown myself.

[@doomedrpgproject4473]

The Breakdown is incredibly entertaining to watch when NZ loses. The salt, the cope, the excuse making. It was a busy week of rubgy warm ups and 95% of the show was a whinge fest over one match. I love that show.

[@gergemini2993]

yes I watched it after their loss at home to Ireland in the series and with exception of 1 pundit they were whinging, making excuses Jeff aka Goldie is the WORST followed by JK, Mills has his moments to be fair but they are possibly the most biased pundits in international rugby at least that I have seen!

[@johannblignaut1966]

The Breakdown has to many stupid people on its panel.I am out of there.

[@andrewmorkel2269]

Spot on, bud !!! 😂😂 As a Bok supporter, I've been watching the Breakdown for a few years now. So unashamedly biased towards NZ rugby, and I get it. It's all about their passion for the game and their birth right that the AB's are the best in the world. But I absolutely love watching the Breakdown show when the AB's lose 😂😂 Bring out the 🍿 Ireland series was a Classic one. OMW, the excuses. If the AB's win, hey, they'll unpack that for an hour 😅😅 Hopefully, i can watch next week Monday after France have beaten them. That would be so good.

[@crispybug]

Before they hid behind a paywall the New Zealand Herald was absolute comedy gold when ever any opposition (and particularly northern hemisphere) had the temerity to defeat the all blacks!

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

To be honest as a SA their coverage is no more biased than ours. Difference is everyone making a meal out of SA bias and what shitty fans the boks have

[@desttu9531]

I am so glad you covered this! As a Saffer it has always been a pleasure to have the competition with NZ who are always gracious in defeat but this week I felt that some pundits (the breakdown especially) was so salty and bitter at the same time that I felt embarrassed for NZ supporters who surely must have been cringing through it all.

[@ruadoy]

Agreed. I found that the Ireland series win in New Zealand was covered similarly. Alot about referees and rules of the game and nothing about the All Blacks discipline or loss of it. Glad normal Kiwis see the game properly.

[@SeamusDunmaggotin]

Just embarrassing really

[@juanpierrebosch]

Hear hear

[@bernieone1]

​@@ruadoysame as

[@maffrose]

FYI the commentator Patrick Gower is not a Rugby Pundit, he is a political hack that knows nothing about rugby and was part of the corrupt nz media that took money from the Govt for positive news stories. Jeff Wilson and this show is sponsored by NZ Rugby so are never critical of the ABs. Our independent media outlets, not paid for by NZ Rugby were highly critical--this show is a bit of a joke over here.

[@cobus5841]

Funny! Nice one, Tim! I must say, I've seen scores of comments from NZ supporters who downright slated The Breakdown and apologized on behalf of NZ. They also complimented the Springboks on a well-deserved win. SO, I concur. The fans handled it great but the pundits had a mental meltdown. Fans at the game said the atmosphere was electric and Twickenham was buzzing. I personally did not get bored watching the game on the telly. Perhaps the pundits are on some combination of speed, cocaine and caffeine that the game bored them to death. Most of the stoppages were from penalties requiring set piece play which points to lack of discipline. TMO's always take time but in my opinion the way the bunker system works is awesome as it does not add time to the TMO or referee decision and every single bunker decision came so quickly when the ref called it on the field that you could easily miss it. In fact, I think the bunker system may well shorten TMO times if used properly. So, if the pundits want the game to flow more, they should advocate for teams to maintain stricter discipline in their gameplay. I wonder how many minutes of the 107 minute game were due to infringements or penaltiesand the following set piece preparation versus the actual time taken for TMO decisions. Perhaps The Breakdown could divulge that those stats to us too. I hardly ever watch The Breakdown as I find the commentators overbearing and pompous. I get my commentary from Eggchasers, Brenden Nel, The Black Jersey, Alfred Reynolds, Squidge, TAS Analytics, Two Cents, World Rugby, Wildkard and Inside Rugby with Mark Philpott. They are not all balanced, but you go out of your way to keep your comments as fair as you can give them, so thank you for that.

[@oysterman250]

Surely the bunker system enables the game to FLOW better, allowing the referee to play on while a yellow card incident is reviewed. It doesn’t delay the game at all - these butt-hurt Kiwi pundits are just fishing for something to pin their humiliation on…

[@free_stylabro6490]

I had to watch Wildkard after the game. Wow he really had a session there. 😂

[@riri1718]

@@free_stylabro6490 he's very entertaining 😂

[@ryancheeseman4688]

Give The Final Whistle a go, ex springboks and coaches on the panel.

[@shitstorm222]

As a kiwi Jeff Wilson is an embarrassment and quite frankly, he needs to be spoken to. There's a point where understandable bias is acceptable to some degree from a former All Black, but he went beyond that into an almost weird frenzy. It was really quite odd.

[@rogerdeiss4172]

As a French fan, so a neutral viewpoint, I agree with Tim….Jeff Wilson and Co blame the ref, the bunker, etc…sorry guys…although the ABs is still a great team, the current refs are now applying the same rule for everybody, without exception. That said, Scott Barrett s lucky coz he could have been sent off directly without the bunker decision. As a younger boy, I used to support NZ after france. The joke of the 2011 final in NZ has changed my mind…NZ has often been refereed with caution and care…times have changed, this is now over…at last. 🙏

[@slayboutique5756]

You are absolutely correct. For years the ABs enjoyed preferential treatment from the refs. Those days are now over.

[@catlikepizzagaming8280]

Kolisi didn’t deserve a red didn’t he? I have no issue with Barret being red carded, the issue I have is Kolisi being alllowed back on the field

[@barrysamson5139]

@@slayboutique5756 Wah wah blah blah - stop the bleating, you're as bad as Wilson and Co. Your target is McCaw who understood the laws completely, and as the refs who controlled the game said, he knew his stuff.

[@whytheface777]

Bingo, now that nz's actions are also being scrutinized, they don't know what to do. It's like a bank robber who gets caught and now he has to get a normal job to survive. It's almost impossible

[@JOATMOFA]

@@whytheface777 LOL - touche'!

[@walkedale1986]

It was crazy. I found it particularly sour of them when they stated the game was boring, You just had to look at the fans in the stadium and how they loved watching that game and it was not even a home game for the boks.

[@nzfreeski]

agree agree completely - it's sad to hear this breakdown show.

[@jakeclough8090]

I was at that stadium that night and I’ll tell you it might as well have been a home game for them, they’re fans completely outnumbered kiwi fans probably about 4/1 or more

[@kencoveny7965]

It was most likely English fans who don't support the AB's

[@leroywilliams5237]

​@@kencoveny7965there are loads of South Africans living in the UK.

[@saml2621]

I was there too haha, I found it almost comical how rare us kiwis were in the crowd. I thought I heard an "All Blacks" chant a few times, but turned out it was just "Bok......ke". Was definitely the equivalent of having a home crowd, only in English conditions.@@jakeclough8090

[@nevillematodes3550]

At long last - a proper pundit! Well done Tim.

[@dcs4880]

BEST RUGBY VIDEO ON KZbin in a long time! Great content mate, I thought the breakdown episode was absolutely appalling. Lost a lot of respect for those pundits, absolutely unreal.

[@vdw_12500]

Yeah same

[@alastair7399]

Totally agree!

[@wildernessdreaming]

Watching the breakdown here in SA it was very evident that the AB’s don’t loose often and they don’t know how to loose gracefully. Nothing but respect for the AB’s and we have been creamed by them enough to really enjoy this victory.

[@johanjohan1045]

The pundits more than real fans.

[@bradparker6156]

@@johanjohan1045 I agree with that. The "pundits" were after all members of all-conquering teams for whom losing was an absolute rarity. Handling it now in later life seems pretty difficult for these gentlemen. The fans and players I suspect on the other hand appear to be able to say "well done" to the opponent who got it right on the day, because they have a quiet confidence they are good enough to reverse the result. That is how I know the ABs..

[@MartynKilian]

Great video!! "The breakdown" or "The emotional breakdown of jeff wilson and jk" as it should be renamed is embarrassing to watch. I feel for genuine NZ supporters who are proud of their team and don't stoop to this level and know their team will bounce back.

[@mikenewtonnz]

Am a proud kiwi and avid AB supporter and I totally agree with what you're saying. We were totally outplayed and deserved to lose. Like you said, guarantee the team will be looking at themselves not tge ref/bunker/rulebook. It's embarrassing when you have "experts" behaving like this...just admit, we got beaten by a better team. And yes, Barrett deserved the 2nd yellow, so people should stop blaming everyone else and finding excuses.

[@jamescook4116]

As an Irish supporter I still would prefer the French to NZ in a QF. Pretty confident the ABs right the ship for the WC.

[@beatrixwoite3623]

OMW whining about everything. Scotty got a yellow for driving with his shoulder into Malcolms neck, so he deserved it. The bunker system makes their decision while the game carries on so the matches won't last forever because of it. Just take your beating like a man and stop embarrassing yourselves

[@tonyvellere9118]

Barrett got off as nothing was wrong. You call yourself a kiwi?

[@mikenewtonnz]

@tonyvellere9118 Yes I do. Just because I don't blindly think the ABs are God's and can do no wrong doesn't mean I'm not a supporter. Barrett infringed and was carded for the second time therefore had to be given red.

[@mikezog1030]

@@tonyvellere9118 he didn't "get off" as he got a (2nd) yellow card for a cheap shot in the first place. It was worth at least a yellow and a second look. Maybe not a red.

[@t_roth9413]

I am so glad you did this, and it honestly couldn't have been done better. This episode of the Breakdown was one of the most embarrassing things I've seen in rugby media. No class whatsoever.

[@quentinadkins432]

Its the amnesia over Bismarks' send off years ago over a legit tackle on Dan Carter for me

[@nzfreeski]

@@quentinadkins432 hahaha. some memories hurt. Mate the Boks were immense on Friday, wow

[@KernowekTim]

Aye.

[@jaconortje5009]

Can you imagine someone insinuating that Malcolm Marx faked an injury like a football player, the guy is one of the hardest and toughest rugby players in the world. Shamless from the Breakdown pundits

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

You could hit him on the head with a hammer and we wouldn’t fake an injury.

[@danielstruwig3078]

​@@plc2866no

[@nicolasnaude-im3wc]

you do know you can still take an illegal knock and not have to leave the field@@plc2866

[@DonaldDods]

That little dude should never come to SA 😂

[@flyingllama2315]

I subscribed. This commentary is spot on. The New Zealand commentators watched a different game. I’m glad you called them out. It sounded like they were already making excuses in case they lose the next world cup. A strong AB team make the sport exciting and I’m sure the AB team will eventually find their groove again.

[@JOATMOFA]

LOL - your comment aged well! And you were right - they did lose the RWC final ... to the Springboks! What was *_more_* interesting after the conclusion of RWC23 final, is that neither Jeff Wilson or John Kirwan were on air for almost a month! They just disappeared! And *EXCUSES* were plentiful! LOL - it was the best time for me as a SAFFA!

[@gaelicd8328]

New Zealand lived off of cynical leading edge play for years. Thank god for someone bringing the real issue to the surface. Improved refereeing has highlited really issues with their game. Well presented view 👏

[@charlestruter7171]

Well Said!

[@johnmc3862]

100%. The Ireland/NZ series showed this as well.

[@nelsoncasquilho9654]

ABs are to blmae themselves...... thank goodness Paddy is gone

[@LeMerch]

Excellent. Thanks for covering this! I remember their episodes after the Ireland series loss.. some of the most biased pundits I've EVER heard!

[@MayMcCann]

After the Ireland series they were very complimentary with the exception of Goldie. JK spent his time criticizing the ABs (he tipped Ireland to win before the series), Marshall said he could see it in the stadium that Ireland had it. Isa Nacewa was delighted for Ireland of course. It was only Goldie who made excuses for the ABs. His penchant for blaming reffing decisions is getting a bit out of control. He has become that child that calls cheat whenever they lose.

[@retrorampage484]

The pundits seem to have missed the point somewhat!!

[@donaldpinkus5284]

The best review of the NZ pundits. Well done !

[@MrFarr007]

Aaron Smith did an interview with the Rugby Pod, he was asked why the ABs were so bad. What he said was telling... Basically he said the ABs were pumped. But were blown away. They had no excuses to hide behind...

[@tommcg7564]

13 players is the reason. You’ll hear no excuses from the players

[@taniac1860]

What is so telling about a player saying it as he honestly sees it? From your comment I’m unsure if I’m missing something, or are we meant to be reading something else into Smiths comment?

[@tommcg7564]

As I said, you’ll not hear excuses from the players. It’s obvious that was the real reason but that’s how humble the players are

[@MrFarr007]

@@taniac1860 I am sorry, your comment makes no sense. Why don't you listen to this video, where egg chasers is critiquing the pundits. Then listen to that interview. Aaron smiths comments basically rubbishes the pundits claims. The players themselves are humble...

[@deesquires1097]

What a bunch of bad losers!

[@matthewdewet2242]

Really loving your work and your opinions! Excellent analysis and most importantly - fair and unbiased! That is so refreshing. You and Two Cents Rugby are my absolute favorite! Thank you.

[@Sir2ube]

Can’t get over how good this is. People must agree as subscribers have gone up by 1k in the space of few hours. Guess kiwis do want some unbiased, fare and balanced rugby content. 😂 class!

[@Davidvx1468]

They're still not used to not being the best in the world anymore, when u have a win record like the ABs had in the past its hard for them to show humility, the fans seem to realize but the pundits are still living in the past.

[@nzfreeski]

But the All blacks and coaches and mainly most fans all agreed it was amazing by the Boks - all NZ radio shows, TV shows, journalists - I disagree, we gave the Boks their credit for blowing us off the park. Just these muppets on the breakdown (sad some were ex ABs)

[@71bootneck]

They in denial. They still think they team of McCaw DC and Read.

[@stephenlennon7369]

​@@71bootneckbuhahaha keep the jokes coming lol 😅😅

[@jacqloock]

@@nzfreeskiWe feel your pain but Jeff Wilson JFK and MilsM are not just some exABs

[@nzfreeski]

@@71bootneck shouldn't you wait till after the WC? just saying.

[@jasoncugs]

What a legend...loved how you didn't hold back... but agreed I don't want to be talking about this all the time

[@dumisaralane]

Nicely done. Calling out the hypocrisy. Much love to the All Blacks supporters that were gracious in defeat, as for the pundits, well we they can jump in the air and remain there. Awesome KZbin channel 👌🏾 🇿🇦

[@nzfreeski]

and the actual ABs and coaches!

[@dumisaralane]

@@nzfreeski yeah absolutely. The AB players and coaches were a great example of how to deal with a loss like that. I have no doubt they’ll bounce back. They’re still one of the favorites to win the WC 🏆

[@johndiamond6931]

Kiwi here, yes this was an absolutely shocking episode of the Breakdown, I hope the show improves with a more analytical perspective.

[@mthunziphakathi4215]

7 months later and I'm sure you have lost hope.

[@duncgb]

Great call-out, Tim! Liked & subscribed - really looking forward to your RWC coverage. Spot on about the S Barrett head-fart cheap shot. Reckon Jeff Wilson, whenever he looks in a mirror, must still see his goldie locks instead of the chrome dome of reality. He and Sir JK certainly deserve each other.

[@JOATMOFA]

LMFAO @ chromedome! Funny !!!!

[@jaydetrail]

I will watch everyone of your shows mate. Well done! THE TRUTH!

[@nwana_wa_mutsonga]

I’m glad that someone finally said something about that episode of The Breakdown, as a Saffa I love watching the breakdown but I felt like the Boks were not given credit at all for their performance and it went on and on and on about the things how the game was ruined. Also saw a lot of people complain about the 7-1 split and I don’t see how that’s a problem because it’s a big risk from our side too, had it not happened worked out for the Boks then no one was gonna complain about it but now that people have seen how well it worked and maybe they see that on a good day no forward pack would be able to stand up to the Springboks then “World Rugby has to do something about it “ that’s just ridiculous. We are probably not gonna use that 7-1 split again but it’s very disappointing seeing these kind of comments from pundits, ex coaches and ex rugby players

[@antonyholmes7451]

A storm in a teacup.....I think Rassie and Niebs are laughing because in a warmup match they can take this risk. It is never going to be a tactic when it matters, but the other teams are now running scared. Don't worry - SA will announce their team on Tuesday and then you know what is coming....

[@williambotha5864]

We should use an 8-0 split in the quarters when we thrash them again!

[@ant1056]

@@williambotha5864Haha😂😂 When was the last time you beat the All Blacks 3 times in a year?

[@williambotha5864]

@@ant1056 When was the last (and only) time a team won the World Cup after losing a game in the pool?

[@williambotha5864]

@@ant1056 What has been the ABs largest points deficit so far? Who beat them that badly?

[@louisvanderberg7756]

One of the best comments I read from that breakdown episode on youtube was that the Boks scored 35 points in only 33 minutes of action 😀

[@commentwell3870]

Which makes them oh, so absolutely brilliant!

[@rudietrivium]

+1 Subscription for you buddy. This is what Rugby break down is all about...the good and the bad from the teams. Well said!! From a South African fan!

[@tonysa2337]

This video was pure gold Tim!😂 Was superb when you posted it but it's even better post World Cup.

[@AndrewGurnett]

I am so happy that you commented on this Tim. I went looking for uploads of the Breakdown after that match to see how they would lay into their team (like they often do). I was stunned to see their reaction. I felt quite narked on behalf of the refereeing team who I thought did a very solid job. So a big thumbs up here. You nailed it.

[@raf4992]

If you thought that refereeing team did a good job then bog off and watch Headers.. The beautiful game of Rugby doesn't need boring officious clowns as supporters.. I bet you're a public servant🤡

[@ravenwampach9901]

Pure class, mate. I lost a lot of respect for those pundits after listening to their drivel. The Boks were the better team on the day. The margins between the top 5 team are tiny. And NZ must deal with the new realities of pro Rugby. They will lose more games now than what they used to. But they will always be a top team.

[@colinmelling]

As a Springbok fan, one of the things I love, is watching post-loss reviews from New Zealanders and Australians when the Boks have slapped them. The salt tastes wonderful.

[@bodybalanceU2]

and so bitter when the boks lose then the salt becomes too salty for you

[@lauriecarter8931]

Yeah goes both ways Vice Virsa aye.

[@pearseodonnell2364]

First up, I really like your channel. No gimmicks, no silly stats, just a genuine rugby lover sharing his knowledge and opinions. Keep it up. As for "the breakdown". I was first made aware of this show after somebody sent me a link in the aftermath of the Irl - NZ game in Chigago in 2017 and I thought " what a condescending bunch of arrogant as*****. I always switch them on after a N.Z defeat - the tripe they come out with is hilarious at times. Particularly enjoyable is their reaction to Sonny Boy Williams getting a red v the LIONS and of course the 2nd test in the Summer series v Ireland where a certain Jaco Peyper is literally hung drawn and quartered. Every so often they have a decent pundit - Isaac Bent & Jarred Payne spring to mind but the majority of the time it's more like a sit com than a serious sport show. BTW - I gave lost all respect for Sir John Kirwin - a genius on the field, a bigot on tv.

[@markcrossman3356]

Just subscribed to your channel. Thank you for calling out the ridiculous hypocrisy. As South Africans we definitely don’t do well when we loose but this was just as bad as any moaning and groaning we have ever done. Easy to be a good looser when you never loose. One big thrashing and they are blaming everyone but themselves😂

[@david1golfer]

As a through and through NZer and All Black fan I completely agree with you. Just embarassing. How many times were many other fans like me begging them to shutup.

[@cambridgeclaassen4743]

Touche!!!

[@fomofud9479]

​@david1golfer I was truly amazed at the class of the AB fans absolutely tearing them apart in the comments after tht show. As a Bok fan it made me proud of being a Kiwi fan too.

[@dollytapara7259]

Cmon What are you on about. It’s the way the Media prints the story. 😊😊

[@rusellsolomon1228]

That was brilliantly presented !!! Even as a SAFA, I was shocked and embarrassed by the Breakdown presenters throwing pasta to the ceiling hoping some point would stick

[@carelpapenfus]

Thanks for speaking out 🙏 from a Safa🇿🇦

[@shaunhartley3687]

First time i actually caught this and man you were so spot on. Anyhow, old news now. Thanks for the amazing coverage and for making the WC23 all more enjoyable!

[@MrChrispy79]

I salute you! I had a look at the Breakdown just before watching your reaction on the NZ v SA game, and was amused when you stated the NZ public took the loss well. My first thought was "did he even watch the Breakdown". Kudos to you for pointing this out. Love your content mate, keep it up!

[@chrismostert5338]

Brilliant comment and absolutely accurate. New Zealand were soundly beaten fair and square so to these pundits with their ludicrous view of the match, SUCK IT UP !!!

[@JohanMorgan-o1p]

Brilliantly done! love the edit mate. Quite an embarrassment for the Breakdown - not so much NZ rugby as the players and coaches handled the media very well.

[@citroes1000]

Couldn't agree more - the NZ players and Fozzie's responses were classy. It's just Mills, Goldie and whoever that other fool is on the show that didn't show any class

[@NickSterson]

Actually Fozzie has been at it as well. In the post match interview and quoted in rugbypass he inferred that their lineout was impeded and that Marx was acting.

[@grahamarthur]

This is brilliant Tim and you are hereby granted the freedom of South Africa. 😂

[@arkleegan282]

Yourself and Two Cents Rugby ... Both Class Acts analysing the games ... Keep up the Good Work

[@ludwigerwee961]

You are so correct. ALWAYS the blame game, really so unprofessional!!

[@KevinOGrady]

Brilliantly done. You made your point very well. "We don't wanna be talking about this all the time..."

[@ThandoNdoku-hk1ew]

Justin Marshall the only real one outta that lot.

[@Primal-Weed]

He’s a joke too.

[@JustinMulder1]

As a South African, thanks so much for making this video, I really like your common sense approach and your sense of humour

[@PowrAl]

This video just popped up on my timeline a few months after the WC. So happy I started following you during the WC.

[@stevedavidson666]

But their problem is they hate it when they can't get around the ref, although I do believe Carley let them get away with a bunch of stuff early on, but he had a really good game otherwise. Many thanks for your excellent analysis anwyay!

[@TurtleFPL]

The Breakdown was so pathetic after the game. They literally have no idea how the bunker works or what the rules are.

[@francoiscoetzer9920]

True words. I was flabbergasted with their commentary and reactions, especially Jeff Willson. What if the Scott Barrett infringement was committed by PSTD, Eben or Duane? I expected more humility and professionalism. The source of their behavior can only be fear and doubt of their team’s ability to go all the way in WC23.

[@ochrechap]

Peter Steph-Du Toit.....PSDT....Post-Stress Disorder Traumatic!

[@stephan-wesselswart5934]

Mate, you are my hero! I thought I was going mental watching this episode of ‘The Breakdown’

[@pamaerysovershares7373]

I just saw this and watched it again cause it was such a good video. More of this format pls 😂

[@BeegMike]

Thanks for airing this. Most times pundits are just fans that get paid to gush over their home teams. Thanks for being impartial. New subscriber right here

[@we-must-we-can]

As an all black fan...congrats bokka on a brilliant win...you were the better side on the day👍 Goodluck to both teams in your 2023 RWC 👍

[@johanjohan1045]

Respect. Goldie does not talk on NZ rugby fans' behalf. Embarrassed themselves.

[@RVieira14]

Let me just double check: is this something they don’t want to be talking about all the time? I couldn’t tell from the video…😂 Great video Tim!

[@vrry8835]

The breakdown is rarely good. It feels less a channel reporting on New Zealand centric rugby news and more a faux news station akin to Fox in the USA. They're top down direction is intent on drumming up opinion and influencing public discourse purely in a game to game fashion in benefit of the All Blacks. A few bad eggs can sour the whole bunch. James Parsons is probably the best pundit in NZ and is worth far more than everyone on the breakdown combined. Worth an invite to your podcast!

[@tonysa2337]

I think they have plummeted past Fox and are now inhabitng the same depths as CNN.

[@Karma-qt4ji]

LOL this just popped up in my 'recommended' and I had to keep checking the time stamp to check that you were not talking about the final. Nothing changed at all - the team who knocked the ball on 12 times in their 19 turnovers, turned down points at goal and kicked 2 from 4 kicks, still could not bring themselves to blame themselves or their discipline issues, but rather put the loss firmly at the feet of the officials for a game they had every chance to win but simply turned down the chances.

[@GarySweeney-m2i]

Oh Tim! We are so glad it’s someone neutral saying this! We South African’s love you

[@NickSchoonwinkel]

Ask the spectators in the pavilions and us who watched the test on TV. We did not want the final whistle to blow. It was a spectacle for us that did not have to end.

[@jayduplessis7698]

THANK YOU! This episode was quite pathetic to be honest... And the funny thing is they actually mentioned the term "unconscious bias" on the show. Well, thanks for the exhibition of exactly that... And an insufferable amount of ridiculous, inaccurate moaning. I mean, to call that game "boring"... WHAT!? 😂 And that's besides a plethora of totally nonsensical accusations aimed at the referees, South African players, World Rugby and just about everyone... it was unbelievable.

[@jeremyreid9582]

“Toiché” 👌🏼 … unconscious bias, their projection is hysterical!

[@Lechedeesnuts]

@@jeremyreid9582i think you meant "touché" ?

[@vanessamay3689]

They must’ve watched another game because it was anything but boring. More like, what else will go wrong?

[@herculesaucamp3607]

You forgot one thing though, they blame everyone except the all black players themselves, Barrett went off feet to a player not competing for the ball, which is foul play and any good pundit should have asked what is the mitigating factors since the rule says if it is foul play and intentional there are no mitigating factors, which was exactly what Barrett had done. So it should have been straight red. We have seen red cards before for something like this. He went in with the shoulder as well, which means his actions were always illegal.

[@blurrd]

Enjoying your videos ! Keep going 🎉

[@ravineyachad688]

As a South African, The AB's are a formidable team and always would be. I respect the rugby they play. Reagrding this channel I admire the unbiasedness . no better game to watch SA vs AB's

[@johnprendergast7085]

Well done to you sir for calling out this shocking episode from the breakdown. As the breakdown would say. The only reason Ireland, South Africa and France are ahead in the World rankings is because New Zealand aren't playing at their best 😂😂😊😊

[@factandtruth1022]

China bean, it's a number on the score board if you havnt notices... nob shine.....

[@Duggy1702]

Brilliant video, editing is class and hysterical. Embarrassing from the New Zealand pundits and glad you made a mockery of them. The refereeing was spot on, and even if it wasn't, it's not what they should be talking about.

[@jmodyrts25]

“We struggle when we get a ref that does not let us get away with constantly infringing” John Kirwan, basically

[@shintenkai1648]

100%

[@albertvanlingen7590]

Good comment..... nailed it ✅

[@nielrossouw7831]

Yes please!!

[@arminiusgobel4526]

Class video as always mate. Is there gonna be a meet up in France for us eggchasers fans

[@donaldalexander1235]

Brilliant Tim! Thank you. Very unlike New Zealand’s usual magnanimity in defeat but you called them on it. There have been some other NZ knowledgeable pundits who applauded SA and Barnes’ performance. More the Kiwis I remember.

[@timothybeaton6118]

Well I subscribed dude this was kak funny. The problem going forward for the kiwis will be that people are no longer afraid of them. They are still a good team but that godlike aura is gone.

[@jpb7887]

They are still used to very nice and biased referring, that was happening in the McCaw age, like in 2011 WC final with their friend Craig Joubert; New-Zealand is now refereed like any other team, and that's good for rugby

[@nzfreeski]

that's nonsense. But the breakdown blaming the bunker is BS

[@bodybalanceU2]

How ironic you're moaning at the pundits for being one-eyed while you're being completely one-eyed about past games and players - you couldn't make this shit up 😂

[@hanoitripper1809]

And the 2015 final was shockingly biased reffing against Aussie

[@TheMarketSniper1]

2011 - Bryce Lawrence qrts, & Joubert/McCaw cuddle up in the final. 2011 was a serious stain on RWC history. Either a French or RSA RWC Gold. I'd give it to France, But Bryce Lawrences bank accounts should have had FCA investigations post that RSAvsAUS game.

[@nzfreeski]

Well said Eggchasers. As a Kiwi, I felt the response was measured and did nothing but congratulate the Boks - The Breakdown was very sad and something that let us down (even if they felt it, just shut up). Agree.

[@tinythroe3840]

Yeah, SA played a wonderful game, and it was very nice game to watch. SA is definitely part of the TOP3 contender for the title along with France and Ireland.

[@nzfreeski]

@@tinythroe3840 as the all blacks found out a few rimes over the years, rankings don't mean much. good luck

[@tinythroe3840]

@@nzfreeski Sure, i totally agree, but I was not speaking about the official World Rugby ranking, but rather the top3 based over performance over the past year or 2. For example, I don't know if you have seen this year's Ireland-France game at the 6 Nations: arguably the best rugby match I've seen in a long time, with a rugby played at a level and with an intensity that was truly amazing. Now that being said, this is a tournament and you always have surprises in a tournament, so we'll see. Opening match is in 7 days and looking at your tag name, we'll be on 2 sides of the supporting fence for that one (I'm French 😁).. Good luck, may the best team win and of course may the game be enjoyable to watch! 😀

[@nzfreeski]

@@tinythroe3840 great comment! well, if a team deserves a WC it's France. If the ABs can't win it, I hope you guys do, at home.

[@Baz502]

That win was one of South Africa's best ever wins, at least in the last decade or so. That performance was unbelievable, England's semi win in 2019 beats it though cuz of the stakes. But the Boks basically did what England did to NZ in 2019, utter domination

[@saml2621]

I mostly agree with this, although I think this performance from the Boks was even more dominant than that 2019 semi. It felt like I was watching a helpless puppy get beaten senseless, I don't think the scoreline did that game justice, it really should have been 50+ to the Boks.

[@roblouw3038]

That's true - I watched the FULL replay of that semi final in 2019 about a week ago and witnessed just that - utter domination by England in ALL aspects of the game and the AB's only got onto the scoreboard because of an inaccurate throw in by England which was the easiest try anyone will score in a semi final of the WC - i'm actually going to find the episode of "The Breakdown" after that semi final to see what these muppet pundits had to say then...

[@KernowekTim]

Aye.

[@GavinCox-z5i]

Tim please don’t recant your views if you get some blowback…you’re spot on. And more so, coming from a neutral, it is so much more telling. I get the distinct feeling that the New Zealand public and the AB team themselves are not whinging and whining like JW and the weasel in the tweed coat…very poor! As regards it being the best the Springboks can play…well I’m not so sure about that at all. Whilst we have yet to match the guile of the French and the finesse of the AB backs, I’ve seen a definite and continued improvement in backline play by SA. I was also particularly proud of the manner in which Mannie Libbok played as well. He was copping, and justifiably, some serious flak in SA prior to Friday’s game. AB’s are a class team…the Breakdown though is trying to give credence to an ‘alternate reality’ much like Fox News does for politics in the US. SA supporter

[@Empathinow]

Yes, crazy. I tried to watch this episode of the breakdown and had to turn it off. Btw, I find the English rugby pundits to be very fair. Fair in the assessment of England and other teams.

[@M0RR1S10]

I'm from SA and a friend of mine told me to watch that episode today. As someone whos family supports both the Boks and AB's it was very disappointing to listen to them blame everything an pointing fingers instead of talking about the good performance of the Boks. You have my sub!!

[@chezzycj777]

Thank you for this video, so very well said and edited. World Class commentary and insights. Jeff Wilson is out of his depth and cannot see the double standards he ascribes to that you so clearly pointed out. What a brilliant Springbok performance. 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@PeckishCowboy]

This pod is amazing keep up the good work mate you got talent from a springbok supporter

[@andrewwhitehead4966]

Well said sir.... Definately have bok goggles on when watching rugby, but the way you guys play and win is breathtaking.... The one time we get it right the pundits don't want to give us our moment and take it on the chin.

[@Linda_D]

I know this over a year ago. Unfortunately nothing has changed. NZ, UK, IRISH, FRANCE, etc etc etc it’s still never ending🤦🏻‍♀️

[@CedricBruintjies]

Hi Tim, great watching and listening to you. Great work! You deserve a medal...

[@conwayniall]

Rumour has it, Mils is still talking about it 😂

[@shelldrake11]

As a kiwi this was not only well edited for a good laugh, but also so true! The panel are lacking opened mindedness and for not crediting SA for a solid performance! Well done springboks! Actually one of my favourite teams!

[@stephdegoede8316]

What I just love about this is how Kiwis looove to throw the phrase "Salty Saffas" around on Social media. Do we disproportionately complain about the ref? Probably. But I am YET to find a kiwi that won't claim it was food poisoning and that it WAS a forward pass. They truly are an unbelievable bunch.

[@garethclark59]

This video has just dropped in my showreel from 1 year ago and I watched this game live where the Boks outplayed the ABs..but the fans were all very respectfully. Sadly the pundits weren't and hats off to Tim for calling them out...i think this is where I started watching Eggchasers Rugby in ernest ane so glad I did for objective rugby views. Keep up the great work Tim 👍 😁

[@waynemartin7409]

Man I like your down to earth honesty, eggchasers get on that panel and show them how to break it down . I like your style 🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@Vlerkies]

I was also quite surprised to see that reaction from The Breakdown. Steve Hansen, to his credit, was the only one that offered anything of value in that show. All the rest spoke of was largely rubbish.

[@tandinorval180]

Your editing is on point. I laughed so hard.

[@TheWynM]

They are gracious in victory and can’t take a defeat 😮

[@MrIncorr3ct]

As a Scotland fan, this match put the fear in me. Surely they can't play that well twice in a row 😰

[@markdanielleanderson4323]

As a Bok fan thats pretty funny 😂 But without wanting to jinx ourselves the Boks rarely play THIS good twice in a row. You guys are amazing at the moment and I'm sure It'll be a tough game. Best of luck to you guys ☺

[@diasncube4606]

Unbiased, fair and absolutely entertaining to watch .The so called Rugby pundits want to blame the referee when the game is not going well for them

[@BrasidasIE]

I watched this early in the week and it was pathetic from Jeff Wilson saying thats the best SA will ever play. One comment on the video though..the Mils clip on repeat is over done 😢 i have been loving everything else. Keep this up you'll have a huge following by the end of Oct!

[@t_roth9413]

I thought it was hilarious

[@brettfleiner4906]

He was driving a point home with that clip on repeat. They say they don't want to talk about it over and over and yet spent the entire show talking about it.

[@bernieone1]

Not over done at all. Brilliantly done!

[@craigweideman6194]

@@brettfleiner4906 exactly, and ironically, they were pretty much the only ones talking (whining) about those issues after that game. Pretty much everybody else was just enjoying it for the great rugby spectacle it was.

[@BrasidasIE]

I got the point after the second time is all im saying. Its all good

[@theofilusbouwer3430]

The breakdown show living up to it's name as everyone on show having a breakdown 😂

[@BrettStealth]

That was fun Tim. Gotta say I generally enjoy the Breakdown esp when JK gets going. Got to feel for them who likely felt the need to do some damage control this close to the RWC. That game upended a sturdy apple cart and left this Saffa riddled with joy.

[@pierrenaude8152]

So enjoy Eggchaser's commentary through out the world cup and after. Keep it up.

[@andreventer7826]

Absolutely brilliant. Highly enjoyable. 😂 We don't want to be talking about this all the time 😅 You only needed once to put everything in perspective. Come on SKY, BBC, Supersport and the likes get him his own show.