Ejection 067 - Nats Skipper Dave Martinez Tossed After Extra Inning Obstruction Call Gives Phils Run

2B Umpire Dan Iassogna ejected Nationals manager Dave Martinez for arguing an obstruction (type 2) call by 3B Umpire John Bacon that allowed Phillies runner JT Realmuto to score from second. Report: www.closecallsports.com/2022/...
In this video were tmac takes the lead, we review the play and conclude that the proper call here likely is offensive interference for the runner impeding the fielder's ability to make a play on a batted ball (the rule is "attempting to field a batted ball"-not "successfully fields" or "could possibly field a batted ball"); the collision occurs prior to the ball arriving at the fielder's location, or even with the fielder's location, which means the runner interfered with the fielder before the fielder had a change to unsuccessfully attempt to field the ball.
Had the ball already arrived and the fielder had already unsuccessfully attempted to field it, and THEN a hindering contact happened between the two players, it would instead by obstruction (type 2), as ruled on the field here, as the fielder would no longer be in the act of attempting to field a batted ball.

[@michaelcarpenter2762]

Even if this is ruled obstruction since it is Type B I really can’t see protecting the runner past 3rd base.

[@phillipmauller2999]

@@FAB_GNC sure, but we can still think the umpire’s judgement was poor.

[@darkarima]

I'm in a weird position: I think Iassogna was right to rule it obstruction. The fielder had no realistic play, and may have even been deliberately getting in the way. But I don't think the runner had a realistic chance of getting home safely, and the rule is to nullify the obstruction rather than penalize it. Give him third, and play ball.

[@Jamesott86]

Awsome to have T-mac and Lindsey both on a video. Very informitive.

[@amonrodriguez3518]

Ya a guy who refers to em self as TMac and he’s not Tracey Mcrady sounds awesome….

[@gameguru1234]

@@amonrodriguez3518 Tracy doesn't have a monopoly on the TMac nickname dude...

[@amonrodriguez3518]

@@gameguru1234 says the guy tryna copy spider-man nick name...

[@holthogan5562]

Thats such a difficult call in real time. But I've got interference, only after the replay.

[@MaydayAggro]

Only after the replay because the first video had a crappy/zero angle.

[@MyBiPolarBearMax]

@@MaydayAggro that crappy angle was better than the one of the ump that made the call. Pure hubris. Also, i really dont think its that difficult of a call, just a less common one, why do you think its difficult?

[@Rowgue51]

It's not a difficult call at all, it's clearly interference. The only reason you needed the replay to see it is because the initial camera view didn't even have the action in question in frame.

[@Mike300Smith]

Davey was making up for all that lost time not being ABLE to come onto the field. I dare say he got his money’s worth. 🏧

[@brendonneely9456]

*Super Mario Coin Sound Effect*

[@MichaelKolesarKoleslaw]

I said that out loud and was sad I did not hear a coin.

[@priceright8963]

You would have had a pissed off manager no matter what call was made. Surprised we don't see more plays like this with the infield in.

[@tigersfan14]

No, that's not how it works. Umpires only job is to make the correct call. It's that simple. They blew this call and doubled down during the post interview. Just wrong all the way around.

[@coolrelaxingmood4847]

Runner interference all the way…the fielder had no chance to make a play because the runner interfered. Even if there was a snowball chance of the fielder wasn’t going to make a play, he was denied the opportunity to field the batted ball…therefore runners interference

[@super8brit]

Easy to make that Monday morning QB call in slo-motion isn't it!

[@phildunn3195]

Looking at the video at 1:16 before the collision, the fielder had a good reaction and angle and a decent chance to make that play. Still, it's a tough call for the umpire, and he had to make a call. Before the hit, the fielder's starting position in the runner's path is questionable and could justify the call.

[@terrencecitywide]

Coach stays in the dugout and demands meeting with umpire. When the umpire is convinced the meeting is over, he or she walks away

[@hilaryweiner893]

It takes a lot for Davey Martinez to get that worked up, and usually it has to do with obstruction vs. interference on a play. Check out the 2019 WS call of interference against Trea Turner for comparison. IMO, Davey got it right both times.

[@alanhess9306]

If you are referring to the runners lane violation, it was the correct call.

[@chesterthompson6835]

Trea Turner was 100% correct by the umps. At no point waa he ever in the runners lane that's he's required to be in to be protected.

[@darkarima]

I'm actually with Dan Iassogna on this one because to me, the critical point is: Did the fielder have a realistic chance of getting to the ball? If not, then let's take it farther: If a ball is hit down the third base line and the first baseman jumps in that direction (almost tackling the first-base runner in the process), should that be called interference by the runner? The fielder has an "opportunity" to make a play, but no realistic chance.

[@Oceangirl_505]

Both of you in one video? This is a first!

[@KWally]

tough one in real time, could go either way, but on replay definitely interference. gotta love how theyre both judgement calls, which are not reviewable.

[@catman-du8927]

Reviewing a judgement call just leads to some other umpire not on the field making the judgement call.

[@mikek82]

Yep they missed this one. That was Interference.

[@super8brit]

Easy to say in slo-motion.

[@dougeballgame44]

@@super8brit should we all just watch the video once at fast forward??? They missed the call. It’s fine. Mistakes happen. The umpire made a mistake, slow motion, real time, fast forward, he blew it. At this point the umpire knows he blew it. I don’t understand the constant… well easy to say once you’ve watched the replay. That’s why we are here, to watch the replay.

[@63076topher]

@@dougeballgame44 The umpire DOES NOT get the chance to see it in slow mo to see what we see.

[@super8brit]

@@dougeballgame44 Sure the call was missed in real time. We have access to replay they dont. But Im glad we have a huge supply of armchair experts that exceed the actual number of officials to make the correct call.

[@dougeballgame44]

@@63076topher 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@kencunningham663]

After watching the play live, I agree with Dave Martinez's statement in the post game, give the runner 3rd base, if the inning did play out different fine. That call cost the Nationals the game, also when in doubt use replay.

[@thebeautifulfamily8938]

If defender didn’t trip up the runner it would’ve been a score they had the right call.

[@brianmullaney6237]

@@thebeautifulfamily8938 You mean the fielder who was interfered with? The guy with the right to field the ball without a runner deliberately running into him? Just another blown call that changed the result.

[@holmj12]

The umpire said "say it to my face" versus saying it when he is walking away. And the manager comes back with getting in the umpire's face and saying "I'm in your face" -credit Jomboy Media

[@anthonyc639]

Two points in defense of Davey getting as mad at he did that weren't discussed in this video: 1) Hoskins wouldn't have been on base at all if not for a two strike pitch right down the middle that was called a ball. He later walked. 2) He got ejected while he was on his way back to the dugout. This can been seen from the camera angle of the Nationals broadcast. I don't blame him at all here, whenever he goes apeshit on the umps it's generally warranted.

[@direcorbie]

It doesnt matter if he was going back to the dugout; a magic word is a magic word and if the umpire hears it he's gone, period.

[@Niel2760]

What did it get him by going apeshit?

[@two-nine7730]

Right or wrong,no matter what,wrong or right.UMPS got together,still got it wrong.

[@LarrySkylines]

Phils fan who was watching the game so I was wanting to hear your take on this. I didn't understand why they allowed him to score and not just award him third with that call. Is it because he tried to score and the obstruction was called? Or is it an extra base award for the obstruction?

[@johnleonard6878]

In the judgement of the umpire the runner would score if the obstruction didn't happen.

[@Redpoppy80]

@@johnleonard6878 To me, that is laughable. I have a better chance at winning $1000 dollars than that runner reaching home on that play.

[@johnleonard6878]

@@Redpoppy80 I said it was his judgement not fact that the runner would score if the obstruction didn't occur

[@Redpoppy80]

@@johnleonard6878 Oh I know it is a judgment call. I am just saying that I am calling hogwash on that judgment call.

[@theuncoveredlamp]

What should be done in this situation is let it play go with no call. Both were acting reasonably within their jobs. They should cancel each other out. Just let it play out.

[@Ghostrider6A]

That was one nutcutter of a call. It could have been either way at combat speed. Upon review, I would have had interference.

[@auzmo]

It wasnt that tough of a call but I dont think the covering umpire was really looking at or saw the potential inference. He seemed to be more worried about the ball heading toward him. Given that most of us on here probably said interference as soon as we saw it with a poor angle.

[@terrencecitywide]

I coached baseball 22 years. I’m a little embarrassed I can learn so much. Interference vs obstruction? I lov beisbol

[@normanreynolds9889]

Definitely Davey would his money's worth (cue Mario's Coin sound)

[@alexhuevera939]

Umps screwed this up. Keep in mind these announcers are Philly Homers. they kept saying "hes not going to get to it" like they know.

[@tiger35jb]

He was not going to get that ground ball.

[@drewphillips2907]

The big problem is giving Hoskins home. Should of just put him at third

[@brianwitherby1958]

This play is a perfect example of why the MLB rule change banning playing games under protest was a terrible rule change.

[@darkarima]

Their knee-jerk reaction has been "Just sweep everything under the rug" for so long, that after the Astros wrist-pat they should've changed the name to Make a Larger Bump (of dirty laundry under the rug).

[@alcoraces]

This play is not protestable anyhow. This is a judgement call on the part of the umpires.

[@brianwitherby1958]

@@alcoraces the part about would the runner have scored but for the obstruction of the fielder is certainly a judgment call. but 6.01(a)(10), unlike most of the rest of the section on obstruction and interference, does not say "if, in the umpire's judgment..." it is written as an obviously objective standard. if the runner does x, the umpire does y: He fails to avoid a fielder who is attempting to field a batted ball, or intentionally interferes with a thrown ball, provided that if two or more fielders attempt to field a batted ball, and the runner comes in contact with one or more of them, the umpire shall determine which fielder is entitled to the benefit of this rule, and shall not declare the runner out for coming in contact with a fielder other than the one the umpire determines to be entitled to field such a ball. The umpire shall call the runner out in accordance with Rule 5.09(b)(3) (former Rule 7.08(b)).

[@mae2759]

Interference for sure!

[@jeffhagstrom4140]

they can say as much as they want "HE IS NOT GOING TO GET TO THAT BALL" except the fielder started in towards the infield because of the runner in his path. if he went straight to his left or a step back without the runner, you never know. but the issue is he was interfered with while trying to make a play, in the act, whether he makes the play or not, it was in range of possibility. it wasn't on the 2nd base side. it should have gone against the runner and to have the 3rd base umpire call it, that was not right.

[@TreverWhipbuilder]

Interested in your thoughts on the slow draw of the ejection. I understand (and would support) throwing him earlier but why wait until his walking away cursing under his breath? Anything below the mlb I totally agree his reaction is grounds for immediate ejection but it’s part of the fun in the mlb. Why throw him after he’s done? All the umpires did was reignited the anger. Seems silly.

[@teebob21]

Personal, profane, prolonged. We don't know what was said. Walking away isn't a free pass.

[@JD102790]

Managers and players do that all the time. Say something personal about the ump or something worthy of ejection as they're turning away. That way when they get elected, it looks like the ump is in the wrong.

[@dean_604]

@@JD102790 yeah cause we hear everything that is said with every umpire and manager miced up right? 🙄 As far as why this ejection wasn't done sooner, I think umpires in general will give people more room to argue when they know it's a contentious call they may have missed.

[@DJTexan]

@@teebob21 that’s dumb. When I started umpiring it was only personal that would be grounds for ejection. Anyone that ejects for a non personal ejection or long argument is weak.

[@umpire8025]

@@DJTexan There is a point where one needs to move on (not in this play), if they wont and the game wont continue what would you do DJ?

[@terrencecitywide]

3rd base coach waived him home anticipating an interference call. Big league.

[@davidswift7776]

I listened to both radio broadcasts and tv and I was most impressed with Nats… they correctly called it obstruction. Most broadcasters don’t know the correct terminology. The fielder obstructed the runner’s pathway rather than Hoskins interfering with Garcia’s ability to field it. It was a gutsy but good call in my opinion. Garcia had no shot . He obstructed Hoskins pathway . 3rd base coach must of seen umps obstruction signal and was smart sending him home, brilliant. Obstruction is a delayed signal. Runner’s interference is immediately called and kills the play at that time. I’m glad you asked😀 Drives me nuts that most broadcasters have no clue😅 Nevertheless, I don’t agree with your perspective on this play nevertheless I do respect it and love your channel 👍it would be nice if MLB came out with their professional analysis. We seldom to never get that from them!

[@TheeJeffL]

The base runner prevented the fielder from making a play on the ball, no way in hell that’s a good call. It’s one thing to call it wrong during real time, but absolutely absurd to not correct yourself post game. Watch Jomboy

[@alanhess9306]

I disagree with your statement that the 3rd base coach was smart to send him home. If the umpires judged the runner would be awarded third base, the runner would be out when tagged before he got to the plate.

[@joshr.6785]

The runner was trying to get the obstruction call by his positioning and he weaseled it out of the third base ump.

[@ocbroadband]

The issue here is 'could the Short Stop' had they not collided with the runner, actually made a play. Thats the judgement side of this play. So, if there's no interference, then it has to be obstruction. For me, 'in real time' I would have ruled interference. Its a matter of how big of a bubble of protection you give to the defense when they are attempting to field a batted ball.

[@terrencecitywide]

There should be NO coaches on the field. Ever. Only sport with coaches on the playing field.

[@oaker55]

It's a catch 22 here I would say. The runner on second has two defensive players lined up in the base path when the pitch is made. If the runner runs behind the SS when he gets the ball and the SS would try to tag him, the runner could be called for being out of the base path but yet, he really has no choice because the two defensive players are in the base oath. I think they got the call correct.

[@alanhess9306]

It's unlikely the runner would be called out if he ran behind the SS to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball since the rule requires a runner to do that.

[@brendankane5734]

To solve the problem, make everything reviewable

[@jeffreymanestar5319]

To me, the SS is pretty much in the baseline and dives for the ball right at the runner. The runner actually tries to avoid the SS or he would have probably scored....inteference by SS run awarded, no put-out at 2....

[@kevindavis8175]

I always thought “Interference” only applied to the offense and “Obstruction” only applied to the defense. Sort of like Offsides and False Start on football.

[@MC-ij9dw]

Whole crew deserves to work a week for free for that.

[@jeffreybate1548]

Miami marlins jazz ejection as well earlier!

[@stevenseelig945]

Davey has a case for Rhys not being awarded home but he is definitely in the wrong about interference with the runner. He's been around baseball long enough that he should know that the fielders have to give the runner a path to the next base which Cesar clearly doesn't allow to happen by standing right in the Rhys' path when the play starts. Cesar is literally in Hoskins shadow when the ball passes which clearly doesn't give Rhys any time to be able to get out of the fielders way so that he can make any attempt at the ball. This is a rule that a WS winning manager should know but is clearly wrong about

[@Oceangirl_505]

Watch JOMBOY's lip reading on this one.

[@darkcloseau5785]

Davey went full on Earl Weaver on him. This was a good one by Davey.

[@ARR0W8l]

I think it was interference but is there any way it is a nothing because the short stop didnt have much of a play on the ball?

[@shannonbradley2879]

Because I don’t know the answer to this question but what happens if they protest the game over that?

[@priceright8963]

Won't happen. Protests are no longer allowed.

[@shannonbradley2879]

@@davej3781 I still don’t understand how he was awarded home when he was clearly never going to make it there reasonably understanding nullifying the act is a thing.

[@tervalas]

Yeah....on interference the runner is supposed to be given a base he would have had if the interference hadn't happened. There was no guarantee he would have scored without the 'interference'. At worst, he should have been sent back to third.

[@eddiehuff7366]

I agree with Martinez. No wonder he lost it. Bad bad call.

[@super8brit]

Its easy to be a Monday morning QB making calls in slow-motion isn't it!

[@TheCharlesJLee1000]

I have a question, why isn’t the umpires required to wear glasses in the game?

[@MaydayAggro]

I would have called interference here. Obviously my opinion is what matters. :)

[@SLC-Smudge42]

I’m so skeptical that Davey even knows the rule he’s arguing. He’s proven he is fairly rules illiterate.

[@MichaelKolesarKoleslaw]

He's "rules illiterate" but he gets 100 in "yelling at umpires for my team"

[@skeeth1905]

This is 110% runner interference. A fielder has ALL rights to the real estate when attempting to field the batted ball.

[@michaelfalkner1186]

1st and 3rd, one out. R2 is out. OBR does not say the attempt has to be believed to be successful. You could make an argument R3 scores because he's so far away and that the interference was not relevant to R3 scoring.

[@teebob21]

No. If you rule INT on this, R3 cannot score if he has not touched the plate before the moment of INT.

[@michaelfalkner1186]

I thought we said INT was a "reverse the interference" call. That's why I thought that, if the ruling was that he could not make the play, then the INT does NOT impact the run.

[@LPCruz212]

I feel like the nats fall victim to these calls like 15 times a year. This is not the first time I've seen the nationals fall victim to this.

[@mptr1783]

Im a Phils fan, and in reality, interference shoulda been called. In real time though, I understand why the umps called obstruction. They felt the SS couldnt have fielded the ball........case closed. Now, what is the bigger joke, is that a play like this isnt reviewable. How dumb is that? Im sure the umpires would love to have seen a replay like all of you Monday morning QBs who rip them for every call you don't agree with

[@hbk314]

There was no chance he could have fielded the ball.

[@mptr1783]

@@hbk314 Sorry, but you can't say "no chance" on that ball. Now, I don't think he couldve, but Im not saying "no chance". IMO, that play is a perfect no-call.......sometimes both the offense and defense make contact, and to blame one or the other ends up in a cluster

[@thebeautifulfamily8938]

He dove for a ball that was no where near him. That was the right call whether you like it or not.

[@joesavary6081]

Apparently, Dan still fucks up every possible opportunity

[@perrytilton5221]

Obstruction, yes. Scoring him, not likely.

[@XXelpollodiabloXX]

Let's say it is obstruction, shouldn't he just get third, not home? Can we reasonably say he would have gotten home if he hadn't been obstructed? I think I would have had interference, though. I'd protect the fielder before the batter.

[@andreasgottlieb2758]

No, I would have ruled him out. If you rule it obstruction, it is type 2 obstruction in this case, so there's no automatic base award, and the runner is only "protected" to the base that, in the judgement of the umpire, the runner would have reached without the obstruction. If the runner decides to run further than that, he's in jeopardy to be thrown out. In this case and in my judgment, the runner wouldn't have made it home even without the obstruction, so I would have still called him out.

[@nathanc8478]

It is so weird how the Umps cannot even be consistent on these calls. Just last week hey prevented a runnier from advancing after there was interference by the 2nd baseman on the runner, yet here they gave the runner and extra base because they said the fielder interfered with the runner? They should have given him third if there was any question as the interference was before third, but to give him home for interference just 8 feet from second? Nah.

[@teebob21]

It's almost like Interference by the offense and Obstruction by the defense are different things!!

[@nathanc8478]

@@teebob21 not sure what that has to do with what I said. Both plays were the defense stopping the runner. Only they gave the runner two bases in this instance and none to the other.

[@alanhess9306]

@@nathanc8478 It's obstruction, not interference. You need to look up the two types of obstruction.

[@mikek6658]

Seems like Hoskins didn't try to avoid contact while the fielder did. I respectfully disagree with the call and side with Davey and Lindsay for once. First time I remember Lindsay not backing the blue. I'm impressed

[@leskobrandon3497]

Given where the runner and fielder were and where the ball was hit , I don't think either one of them interfered or obstructed each other in the play , so the only call is out at home . He was out by a mile and not because he was obstructed . In the end though it was NOT the winning run so other than killing the NATS moral , it didn't really effect the outcome of the game . NATS lose anyway .

[@ChrisMeade18]

Wow. It's bad when big league umpires miss a call (didn't see the interference). But it's worse when they miss a call so bad they make a call on the opposite team (calling interference obstruction). But it's maybe one of the worst possible calls when they miss a call so bad they make a call on the opposite team AND give an undeserved run to that team (they did not have to, and shouldn't have, awarded home to R2). This is the equivalent in football to missing a pass interference, then the ball touches the ground before the defensive back catches it, but calling it a catch (interception), and then someone touches that defensive back while they're on the ground but you don't end the play, and that defensive back runs for a touchdown. Bad, to worse, to worst. Dare I say it, but a recreational ump that saw this play, froze (be honest, most of us would have), did nothing, and just allowed the pay to happen (and R2 would have stayed at 3rd), would have been twice as correct as this 4 man MLB crew.

[@admiralJONK]

great analogy

[@kurtwitten]

I'm not sure how it can be "interference" when the fielder begins the play in the baseline. What is the runner supposed to do? If the fielder fields the ball cleanly and goes for a tag and the runner tries to avoid the tag, the runner will be called out for "out of baseline." I can see the argument for not awarding him home, but it's a judgement call same as if a ball is thrown into the seats. However, the argument made about "he's knocked out of the line 10 feet and thrown out by a mile..." well, he was knocked nearly off his feet and his momentum killed. So it's impossible to say how close it would've been at the plate. If only there was a system in place where the umpires could've come together, watched a video replay from all angles, and then made a decision about how the play should've been called...

[@tu6202]

Where exactly is the baseline between 2nd and 3rd? The runner creates a BASE PATH during play which means there is no actual BASELINE established. In this situation, the runner should have been a step or two deeper than the fielder as it is his responsibility to avoid the fielder causing interference. Additionally (I know it did not happen on this play, this is an example), if the ball hits the runner prior to getting to the fielder , runner is out. If the ball is past the fielder and hits the runner, provided the runner is struck unintentionally, no penalty is given. To me this is a case of poor base running and awareness but he got away with it on a bad obstruction call by the umpires. The fielder has a right to try to field the ball.

[@thomasscartozzi3451]

@@tu6202 Here is what the runner is supposed to do.....stay away from the fielder!

[@ronpeacock9939]

Realtime, I probably would have gone the INT route... watching the replay, the fielder was never getting to that ball... I think the OBS was probably the correct call on this.

[@michaelfalkner1186]

By OBR, he was still making an attempt. It's interference.

[@chrismundy3032]

@@michaelfalkner1186 whats the criteria for deciding it was an attempt though? If the third baseman dove for the ball too despite being 60 ft away can we say it was an attempt? That's obviously absurd, but when does it become an attempt? If you dive and are 10 ft away? 5ft? 1ft? In my mind, it has to be possible for him to make the play to call it an attempt and I'm not sure it was there. No idea if that's how the rules define that though.

[@michaelfalkner1186]

@@chrismundy3032 That's the problem. As in a number of other OBR rules (check swing, anyone), what's "common sense" is NOT what is written. It is clear that an attempt was made (futile though it was) to field the ball -- that would satisfy the INT decision.

[@ronpeacock9939]

@@michaelfalkner1186 As I said, on the field I would have called INT.. I don't do any level that ALLOWS replay and I don't expect to ever work a level that does. That said, it's clear on REPLAY that he had no chance.. then again, I saw a partner call an INT on a ball that flew into the stands (was never playable.). This is one where if the ump said, I had it not playable and thus nobody protected... I would not have blamed him. (on replay)... but I also would never have blamed him for INT.. because that case to me being an on-field ump probably should have called. IDK what the ump was thinking.. but it can go either way (oh, and just because a player is attempting to make a play does not mean said player is protected... it goes by who the ump gives the protection to (if anyone))

[@michaelfalkner1186]

@@davej3781 OBR doesn't make that distinction, at least from the reading CCS is showing us of it. If that's the case, then you rule it intentional OBS, at which point both runs score and I'm not sure where you put the batter.

[@notvalidcharacters]

"What is the runner doing"?? Obviously he changed direction to go *behind* the shortstop to AVOID interference. The tangle definitely slowed the runner's progress. So it's a judgment call as to whether he scores without that slowdown.

[@MyBiPolarBearMax]

This is not the difficult call everyone is making it to be, The fielder is clearly trying to make a play on the ball and even the most basic knowledge of the rulebook would know how to make the right call here. Then the play is magnified by the ump with the wrong view making the call, refusing to get together with the other umps, and the kicker, throwing the manager out *AFTER* he had said his piece and was walking away. Clearly (imo) Martinez said something that was accurate and cut to the umps ego and he threw him out out of an emotional reaction a few seconds later. Something needs to be done about MLB umpiring and accountability. This literally cost the Nationals a potential win (and gave Philly one in what might be a tight NL East/WC race) and seemingly only comes from not knowing the rulebook. The same thing happened to the Nationals a few years ago in the Playoffs against the Chicago Cubs where the umps didn’t know the rule regarding interfering with the catchers throw (hit by the bat on the follow through) and Dusty Baker literally talked to the umps about what the rule was, they said they saw it the same as him but said he was wrong about the rule when in fact he was right (Joe Torre admitted such later). It literally made the wrong team move forward in the playoffs and cost Dusty Baker his job. These are basic rules that umpires should know and it seems like they think they’re athletes and worry more about moving from a 92.8 to a 92.9% accuracy rate rather than making sure they are aware of the rulebook through and through. They think they’re a part of the game rather than neutral arbiters and i hate it so much.

[@catman-du8927]

So Davy is allowed to get emotional & scream & point his finger right in front of the umpire's face but an umpire getting emotional is something that should be punished by the league?

[@devinbrown1775]

Dave Martinez was walking away and the umpire from 2nd base throw him out for no reason. Bad umpiring!

[@mptr1783]

yeah, because you heard what he said to him as he walked away. Seen that excuse a lot on here.

[@devinbrown1775]

@@mptr1783 well that's true!

[@antonioperez2623]

Davy is right for being upset. Bad call by umpire.

[@kristopherwagner4173]

Once again… the umpires are the ones determining the outcomes of game and not the players. Clearly the fielder has the right to the ball first and foremost. Terrible fucking call in an important situation. And what will happen to the umpires? Absolutely nothing. But the manager will get fined for being tossed. This is why I don’t go to games anymore. I shouldn’t know a single umpires name. No one goes to see them. I’m not going to spend my money to watch the god damn umpires give a team a win or a lose because they fucking feel like it or to fucking incompetent to do their jobs correctly. And I love the commentary from you guys. Could have been improved on, we are all human, blah blah blah. They fucked up once again, and nothing will be done to fix the behavior. You guys are amazing teachers and I’ve learned so much from this channel but please for the love of god crawl your way out of the umpires rectum.

[@KWally]

Someone needs to go blow some steam somewhere else.

[@Seanster_94]

obviously a bad call, think everyone agrees on that, but then on top of that ejects Martinez as he's walking away....hate when they do that

[@alanhess9306]

You don't know what was said. Managers don't get to say whatever they want because they are walking away.

[@Niel2760]

If Davey says he’s a c@#’$@+’&# motherf##@ker as he’s walking away, he’s gonna get run. They ALWAYS say that stuff with their back turned because it makes the umpire look bad when they run em. Don’t fall for it.

[@super8brit]

Oh look another Monday morning QB making calls at slow-motion videos.

[@Redpoppy80]

Yeah this play is a M.E.S.S. and it really is impossible to make a sound call for this play in real-time I don't even know how a replay crew would get this right. I think that this play demands a redo of sorts cause this game was won and lost because of this decision and not because of players playing the game. I say that this play should be voided and replayed from this point. This play made me look up playing under protest and it was eliminated which seems to me to be a way to just screw over players and protect umpires over the integrity of the game. And don't get me started over the fact that this play was not even reviewable which is beyond stupid. Just because something is a "judgment call" doesn't mean that you can't have a second pair of eyes look at it because maybe your "judgment" was wrong!

[@borisjohnson7799]

I would agree a coach or player should have gotten Martinez at some point

[@kricestophercook3841]

Sometimes the best call, is well, no call. IMO, I leave that alone, call it a train wreck, and let the play go. THe runner had no impact on the ball being fielded, and the fielder had no impact on the runner being thrown out by 60 feet. Ball, runner, fielder all where in the "can" as we sometimes call this. Meaning, everything arrived at basically the same time. If its me, I give the "safe" signal, and have nothing.

[@Syndyne]

Yeah… I don’t see that. Either you have interference here or you have obstruction. If you have obstruction, you can still determine you wouldn’t have protected the runner past 3rd, but there’s no way this is nothing.

[@Jason-qu4fe]

No call....fielde4 playing in....let the guys play

[@garygemmell3488]

The 3B umpire should never have made that call. He has absolutely no angle on the ball position. Also, that's interference 8 ways from Sunday.

[@63076topher]

Doesn't need one to make the OBSTRUCTION call only if he was calling interferance would he need that. The second base umpire made the no interferance call.

[@garygemmell3488]

@@63076topher They were both wrong.

[@63076topher]

@@garygemmell3488 How is OBSTRUCTION wrong the shortstop did impead the progress of the runner. If the second base umpire did not see interferance he can't call it that should not prevent the 3rd base umpire from making the obstruction call. The second base umpire DOES NOT have the benefit of slow mo as this video does.

[@garygemmell3488]

@@63076topher Very simple. I believe the 2B umpire blew the INT call, which led to the 3B umpire blowing an obstruction call. Nothing more, nothing less

[@63076topher]

The problem is the second base umpire does not have slow mo to look. At first I see the runner going AROUND the shortstop trying to avoid him.

[@clachapelle]

Thats Interference all day......... On a Batted ball the defense has the right away.....

[@bigalan3145]

The issue is that the fielder never had a chance at the ball, at best he redirects it but never gets possession which makes it obstruction.

[@mbdg6810]

of way

[@alanhess9306]

@@bigalan3145 We don't know if the fielder would be able to reach the ball because the runner was between him and the ball. Who should the benefit of the doubt go to?

[@metzilla]

@@bigalan3145 yeah, I'm sure that was your first inclination when you saw this video? I think not. INT all day

[@bigalan3145]

@@metzilla I saw the fielder was at least 20ft from 2nd base at the start of the play and the the ball passed 2nd less than 5ft from second nobody is moving 15ft in half a second.

[@toddstuckey3947]

Bad call! Fielder has right to the ball and if the runner interferes he is out. Bad call and wrong call. MLB can’t get it right.

[@maximus9972]

Hoskins never touched home..

[@alanhess9306]

I think he stepped on home after he turned to head to the dugout. But if he didn't, why didn't the defense appeal it?

[@SUzzer-jy9lj]

As a fielder you can not stand 1 and 1/2 steps away from the runner before you collide and think your going to get away with that when the runner is going from point A to B.

[@syduk]

That is flat out a bad call.

[@syduk]

At BEST, it’s just an inconsequential coming together. Allowing that second run to score is a travesty.

[@DJTexan]

Wow ejected while he was walking away. That’s pathetic. To make things worse the other umpire intervened and put hands on the manager. Umpire wasn’t being attacked. No need for a second umpire to help out. If he is going to throw him out while manager is walking away, he can handle the argument on his own. All in all, this was a terrible look for the umpire profession.

[@HuskerIsNumberOne]

No its not. Dave Martinez was escelating the situation and someone had to break it up. That's what umpires are supposed to do. You see it when it gets REALLY heated and that was a heated exchange.

[@DJTexan]

@@HuskerIsNumberOne If you can’t handle a heated exchange then don’t be an umpire. Be a counselor. The umpire wasn’t being physically attacked so there was no need for other umpire. This wasn’t a Pete Rose or George Brett situation. Also, the fact that he had enough guts to throw him out when he was walking away not showing umpire up in anyway, tells me he can handle a heated argument. If someone needs to break it up, let someone on the team do it because they can put hands on and grab them, agree with them and calm them down. Team members don’t want to have an umpire putting their hands on them after they are already mad at another umpire. Another umpire can’t agree with the ejected person because they would be throwing the ejecting umpire under the bus.

[@HuskerIsNumberOne]

@@DJTexan Issaogna handled it just fine. Where does the buck stop with arguing with the ump when you know he’s not gonna change his mind? The argument wasn’t going anywhere.

[@DJTexan]

@@HuskerIsNumberOne I was referring more to the umpire intervening and putting hands on the manager. That was bad. Now they usually will leave if you give them a chance too. Either they’ll get tired of arguing and you defending your call and walk back to the dugout, or they’ll personally insult you then you throw them out. It’s not difficult to understand. The manager was at the point he was tired of the umpire not giving in and going in circles. So he was walking back. Then when the umpire threw him out it relit the fire. Both umpires handled this very poorly.

[@mptr1783]

@@DJTexan Hey Texan, umpires are taught this mechanic to have another umpire step in between and escort the manager out..........comprende?

[@amonrodriguez3518]

When In doubt benefit the team that interference was against. So ya. Sorry Nats, but the fielder lost you the game. Shoulda had Esky in

[@douglassepic9030]

Interference. Nonetheless, you're confused. Davey does have every right to go ballistic on the umpire. He doesn't have a right to make contact with or harm the umpire (what I'm saying is that he didn't cross that line).

[@CoachOlsson]

Correct kind of. He also clearly has to be ejected. So "the right" is a weird term.

[@jacobrichardson1952]

Wow 🤣🤣🤣🤣 hilarious!

[@pavanatanaya]

Fielder ran into the avoiding runner. Good call

[@metzilla]

uhmmmm no, that's not how it works

[@pavanatanaya]

@@metzilla Obviously it is I was a shortstop, I did that shit. It works, This SS just got caught

[@22bk113]

Come on if you thought more about obstructing a runner than making the play.. you were never a SS..

[@pavanatanaya]

@@22bk113 I saw that the runner was cheating wide to make a turn at third. When the ball was hit up the middle, I went directly at the guy and bought a call. It happens. If you dont realize that, you never played the position

[@22bk113]

@@pavanatanaya your kidding me right.. then your not even comparing the same play .. here the SS left his feet .. he didn’t run into him😀 I’ll let you live off that play if that’s what you think separates you.. but if that’s your idea of playing the position then I can’t agree .. and just for kicks I played over 500 games at SS in professional ball .. so I’m not being an analytical responder.. I’m sharing from very educated experiences.. I’m not saying that you didn’t do what your explaining, but if your inside the runner like the in SS was .. your going to try to make the play .. not hope for an interference call..

[@charlesrivers2647]

I would call the runner out. He is off the line. It’s not like he is going 1st to 3rd where you take a wide turn.

[@mptr1783]

youre showing your baseball lack of knowledge. Runners MUST avoid contact and are allowed to run around a fielder fielding a batted ball. There is no line

[@dougthegreat1808]

The fielder is given the proximate vicinity to make a play such that the runner has to give way! In this case the fielder was SEVERAL steps away in try to make a play! Therefore we have OBSTRUCTION! Now do we score the runner?? From the video hard to tell! The judgement here was is the VACINITY impeded on? No as the the shortstop was SEVERAL steps away! OBSTRUCTION

[@deckerrm]

Too bad Martinez doesn't exert some of that effort on a winning record.

[@franktank9511]

philly announcers are the ABSOLUTE WORST, bar NONE - they are the biggest hugest fan boy homer whiners in the world

[@scaryperry19]

Definitely interference. The angle the shortstop took to that hard hit ball was unrealistic and looked intentional to interfere with the runner or give that illusion. The result was obstruction but ONLY because the SS intentionally interfered with the runner.

[@DO-ur7oy]

Shouldnt have been either. Should of been a no call. Both players had a right to do what they did. I play SS, that happens so quick you dont have time to decide in your mind "oh I wont be able to reach that". You just instinctively dive. Absolutley BS to penalize franco there and dont give me the "he couldnt get to it" argument. That's bs. It happens too fast and quick for that argument.

[@newlifebb4ldwrs]

I believe the correct call was made 100%.

[@dustinedwards7821]

This is why Umpires are getting knocked out, beaten, assaulted, and quitting at the lower levels. It is Stochastic what these coaches are doing, and it influences the lower levels. Crack down on coaches screaming at umpires, maybe more umpires will stay in the game and the good ones will make it to the higher levels, rather than quitting because it's not worth the humiliation or threats.

[@richardschulz2371]

The phillies player tried avoiding the fielder. It’s the fielder who then prevented the phillies player from advancing. Plus the rule states you get extra base which means advance home.

[@Niel2760]

No it doesn’t.

[@kennowens7381]

The fielder has the right of way when fielding a batted ball. It's up to the runner to avoid being in the fielder's way. This was a bang bang play, but interference (on the runner) is what you usually see, not obstruction (on the fielder).

[@andreasgottlieb2758]

Totally wrong on the last part. There are two types of obstruction. Type 1, when there's a play being made on the obstructed runner, which results in a dead ball and the obstructed runner will be awarded the next base after the last base legally occupied. That would only be 3rd base in this case. But it doesn't really matter, because in this case we don't have type 1 obstruction, but rather type 2 obstruction. Type 2 obstruction happens, when there's no play being made on the obstructed runner (as in this case) and results in a delayed dead ball. After all plays have stopped it is then to the umpires to judge what would have happened without the obstruction and potentially award based. Important word here is potentially, because base awards aren't for sure in type 2 obstruction. Also the obstructed runner isn't immune to be thrown out. If the runner is thrown out by a larger margin than what the obstruction had cost him, he can and will still be called out. In this case calling the runner safe at home was the wrong call in my judgment. The obstruction did cost him some time, but seeing how early the throw from F8 arrived at F2 I really don't think the runner would have made it home, even without the obstruction.

[@bobmack5196]

He went nuts after this ego tripping ump threw him out. Please stop these umps from letting their power tripping ego ruin the game.

[@63076topher]

He was there long enough so he said SOMETHING heading back to the dugout which should not be said.

[@bobmack5196]

@@63076topher so the ump threw him out for saying something while he wasn't even near the ump anymore ?? The ump just wanted to toss him because they all get their egos hurt when they get called out for being incompetent so they try to show the stadium who is boss and throw people out of the game or dugouts. Crybabies all of them. MLB is trying to weed out these power tripping umps but they cannot do it fast enough.

[@danielhetue6968]

Please fire Dave Martinez, Nats!! He’s just a terrible manager and so is the organization.

[@thomaswatkins9398]

so dumb all the guys calling INT the defender had no chance to get that ball and made contact with runner, they made the right kudos to the Phillies 3rd base coach knowing the rules and sending Hoskins home

[@metzilla]

I'm sure that's what you had in real time.... please

[@thomaswatkins9398]

@@metzilla no im not saying that, but the umpire had that in real time and so did the 3rd base coach, and clearly after the replay its obstruction....

[@alanhess9306]

It's risky for the 3B coach to send the runner home. Had the umpires determined 3rd base would be the awarded base, the runner would have been out if tagged before he reaches the plate.

[@DEATHBYJOKES01]

If they didn't protest the game. It wasn't really worth going out there.

[@alanhess9306]

Protests are no longer allowed in MLB.

[@DEATHBYJOKES01]

That's pretty silly@@alanhess9306

[@mptr1783]

@@DEATHBYJOKES01 plus, its a judgement call, and you can't protest judgement calls at any level

[@alanhess9306]

@@DEATHBYJOKES01 Silly? Maybe , but that's the rule.

[@Utoobwatchers]

Nothing compared to Jomboy. Not nearly as good.

[@teebob21]

Correct. CCS is less biased, more accurate, and more valuable than a Jomboy lip-reading circlejerk.