Elden Ring's MAX LEVEL Community is INSANE

[@OnlyWaifuYT]

Here's the full video of Angry PvE Squidward, if you want to see it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWOwZmRqfNeYac0 Do you plan on getting to Max Level?

[@matthewcriner1740]

Can you make a vid on how to start a new level 125 character quickly?

[@gundamheavyarms4879]

Not until after Shadow of the Erdtree; I've never maxed a FromSoft game before, yet I feel a strong desire to max out Elden Ring. I'm almost to level 500, and have made the determination to go for it. I don't think I've ever desired to max a game out; if I have, the desire has not been as as strong as Elden Ring.

[@johnnyjohnson4813]

am a completionist and already max level. so many murdered frogs also mystery weapon is the watchdog staff

[@theangryswede5521]

Wait, we can add waifu as fren on steam !? Ill happily get ganked for that privilege ~

[@AigisRe]

The mystery weapon is the axe of godfrey my beloved

[@VisonsofFalseTruths]

I don’t fear someone wandering Limgrave at RL700. I fear someone in Mountaintops at RL70.

[@loscratch3467]

i fear the man with no armour

[@fritzmuller1469]

i remember being level 30 in lyndell in my first playthrough everytime i got invaded people just left and i wouldnt get why

[@vvvvv6574]

thats me im trying to beat the game rn

[@vvvvv6574]

i think im lvl 60

[@vvvvv6574]

im using a bleed build with summons so im running through everything lmao

[@AllisterNovum]

The only reason I'd want max level (or at least all stats at 80) is so I don't have to worry about switching stats to try a new weapon or build.

[@AllisterNovum]

Ill say this now cause I just saw it, I'd want 60 in Vigor, Mind and Endurance cause that's their softcap, meaning I would need to get to level 501, I think

[@kondek420]

​@AllisterNovum getting endurance to 99 isn't bad cause of the equip load. I did it recently just so I can maintain light rolling on most builds. Not to jam pack every weapon I can like in the video.

[@ileiad]

This

[@mrpotch]

Idk why they still wont lets is farm larval tears

[@urazz7739]

@@kondek420 Yep, Endurance is the first stat I don't mind maxing out because you the higher equip load makes it easier to get the light roll and having a bit more stamina. You can easily wear the heaviest loadout pretty much and still have a medium roll with wearing one of the talismans, Erdtree's Favor (+1 or +2), Arsenal Charm, or Great Jar's Arsenal. It also allowed some of my lighter weight medium roll builds to actually turn into a light roll.

[@ness1307]

Squidward is going crazy at the start of the vid

[@Scharfster]

sounds like Linkara lmao

[@JagorM]

@@Scharfster The lightbringer, so easily defeated .

[@OnlyWaifuYT]

SQUIDWARD 💀

[@econ347]

He sounds like the meme guy, that says: "At the end of the day its not funny is it? That could hit an orphan on the head."

[@lordgrub12345]

He sounds exactly like I imagined the nerd wojack sounds like.

[@BlueShellshock]

Probably a carryover from other games. When you're playing WoW, the strongest player is the guy in the glowing armor wielding sacred weapons and who has the biggest numbers. In Elden Ring, the strongest player is the dude who can kill a god while bereft of anything but a club. One game considers gear to be a mark of skill, whereas the other measures skill by how much can be accomplished using the least.

[@cyryl3827]

They're not the highest skilled ones either though, since you go for max ilvl in WoW to skip mechanics and brain-off high difficutly content.

[@tetsatou2815]

Thing I learned playing D&D 2nd and 3rd edition. If you see a dude taking up the particle effects budget, he's probably bad, but if there's some hobo looking motherfucker about 15 feet behind him cackling like a lunatic, you should probably deal with that wretch first, because he's clearly the more dangerous problem.

[@cyryl3827]

@@Sarah-yh4sg gear has item levels, there are gear checks. skilled players prog at bare minimum item level on the launch of a new raids maximum difficulty, while bad players use other systems to farm out maximum item level to kill lower difficulty bosses before they can do any mechanics.

[@BGgungame]

Not really true for WoW anymore. Blizzard throws shiny gear at you like it’s nothing.

[@sheriffcraft7673]

not true even for wow, I've beaten some braindead people 5 or 6 levels higher than me. No good having gear when you don't know how to dodge a simple hunter's trap

[@skillie5677]

i remember talking to a friend in highschool and they tried to brag about being max level in dark souls 3. and everyone listening just sat there instead of thinking they were good most of us thought "you needed to be max level to beat the game?"

[@apolloisnotashirt]

did you tell them obviously not?

[@aoiminase]

To me, I only level up a bit more than the cap points such as status resist to trade some hits against banished knight on castle sol because one of them was almost really tanky with OP ash of war that doesn’t even exist to find it

[@apolloisnotashirt]

@@aoiminase status resist?

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

You know it's kinda funny because in a lot of other multiplayer RPGs, being high level is kind of a big thing. It's funny how in these Fromsoft games, where whether and how you level is pretty optional, it's not so much.

[@aoiminase]

@@apolloisnotashirt think of those as ailments too Status resist such as immunity, robustness, focus & vitality

[@dimentedguy]

I don't really understand how anyone could argue that levelling is indicative of skill in a game like elden ring where hours of mindless farming is the only reasonable way to get past like level 250 legit

[@grandgibbon2071]

What do you mean, I learned so much farming that one spot endlessly.

[@KarmaMate]

ironically the fastest way to level up past 250 ish is to get invaded alot and kill them, not to mention they suck so its pretty easy and id say i blow at PvP so

[@dokuujin1851]

@@KarmaMate How many souls does a level 250 player drop? Because I can farm 1.2 million runes (at NG+1) in exactly 3 minutes. And level 150 players only drop about 8k runes, I can't see 250s dropping the several million that would be required for it to be able to compete with actual farming. Mind you I dont have a single character over 150, most of my characters are 120-130 for the sake of PvP meta. The only reason the one I'm playing is as high as it is, is because it was my day 1 character and the community originally decided on RL145-150 for PvP Meta, but then one youtuber (I think it was Oroboros?) made a video saying it should be 120, and everyone was just like "oh well if he says so, fuck everyone that's already at 150." xD TLDR of rant: I've never leveled anywhere close to 250 so I have no idea what the rune drops are, but I find it hard to imagine it beats farming.

[@mikusama8030]

@@dokuujin1851 Ik this is a few days old but thought I'd drop in with the info that PvP rune drops are a % of the runes required for the previous level. Hosts gain 15% of the cost from killing an invader and since level costs are exponential in Elden Ring the difference between a level 150 and 250 would be quite substantial. For this specific example, a level 150 invader would give the host 23,052 runes when killed where as a level 250 invader would give 80,198. Invaders only gain 4% of the level cost on killing phantoms or even the host. As for the actual fastest way to gain runes from multiplayer, I'd say it's to spec into comet azur 1 shot build and just plop your summon sign in front of mohgs boss door. 120k every kill and each kill will only take you a couple minutes at most with most of that time being spent in loading screens. If you level up higher to a point of getting summoned for NG+ you get more runes for each kill with no extra effort. This is also a great Rune Arc farm.

[@bryanadam4578]

Honestly, I will just farm mindlessly if I am in a call with friends, or in a dnd session. It has made me appreciate the legit people that get past 300. They had to put some work into it. Or, you know... cheat. XD

[@SarahHardy-bi1sn]

Roderika back makes this video a 10/10

[@Dahtrugus]

Industrial drills!

[@DillonMeyer]

Best weapons for max level are usually Madness weapons. They tend to have four out of five scalings, this includes incantation seals. It's fitting for anyone insane enough to farm to max level to get better usage from frenzy.

[@xenonxan184]

i think they accidentally nicked themselves irl on a madness weapon with how easily they rage

[@cloudniinee941]

Its unfortunate because their scaling stats are generally icky at best, but madness does tend to obliterate fp bars so there is that

[@THE_MOONMAN]

"If i can use my summons this would be a difderent story" 🤣🤣 My brother in christ, than youd just be getting bodied by their mimic. Smh

[@OnlyWaifuYT]

PvEr cope moment

[@xp1446]

@TheDoc_Kyou can…

[@CNSninja]

I don't pvp ever, it's just not my cup of tea because I believe I would lack the skill to do so, but despite never having entered the colosseum I would never in a million years think SPIRIT SUMMONS would be a part of it 😂

[@rafaelbordoni516]

@@CNSninja It's one of the many categories. If you go in the arena you will see 1v1 no summons, 1v1 with summons, 3v3 and free for all, maybe even more categories I'm forgetting.

[@RamsesIsaac-q5j]

I'd say "Mf if you summon someone then the number of ass whoopings received finna get multiplied by two"

[@JarekSSJXify]

My proudest achievement in a FromSoft game was beating Bloodborne's The Old Hunters DLC at lvl118 on NG+1 as I didn't want to make a new character, took me a few days but I beat Orphan of Kos first try when I finally got to him while seeing many people struggle on him. Never really saw the point of getting to max level on any of the games unless I was doing trolling builds.

[@defox8929]

You can be max level and still be skilled but if you're not skilled then being max level becomes a crutch

[@knabrotzky4826]

Not a crutch in their current ng level that’s why they’re always summoned to low lvl carries. Usually they just try to trade hits rather than using tactics/strategy…which is why my lvl 1 invader stocks up on over 350k runes per kill on them.

[@2009samiy]

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[@2009samiy]

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[@coorsbanq]

@@knabrotzky4826 I mean the NG scaling stops at +7 so if they 're replaying the game it does become a crutch against any PvE.

[@knabrotzky4826]

@@coorsbanq a full bull goat still dies to Melania without any understanding, so again…it’s not entirely a crutch. I don’t have a max level or see the use for one because the effort to make one isn’t worth the grind. I can see gaining max stam or fp could be beneficial, but taking hits is still a skill issue that most max level players aren’t capable of learning.

[@iainhansen1047]

Frankly invading low level (25) I tend to run into people who are much better at fighting me off then with my maxx level character.

[@fanatic9926]

I know this is true cus i encounter this.

[@fnatixcsgo]

Smurfing in Elden Ring is crazy

[@raijin7707]

That's because lower leveled players have fewer options which takes out the guess work in combat, there's only so many weapons available for use at lower levels so your locked into one archetype, no hybrid builds. Once they see your equapiment you can be read like a book at low levels.

[@KhreamedKhorne]

I will attest to that

[@exilemorin04]

I’ve had people who Invaded me and my friend in limgrave with grave scythes and poison build up, seems like some loser shit to me tbh spending all that time doing that just to get some dopamine for easily stomping on new players

[@topcat59]

Even demigods can experience identity theft in land-between.🐱

[@konigstigerr4518]

"this is why we use nordvpn"

[@Crunchy_Tinfoil]

6:25 "IM BEING IMPERSONATED CHANGE THE CLIP"🤣

[@_BBAGG_]

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[@Kaazeda]

Original comment , I am amazed ! Yep he likely used a macro not gonna lie.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

God damn, there is a folder icon on YT? Who even...

[@ProbablyKnives]

Silent hill music In the background had me thinking I was schizophrenic for a second. I had to rewind lol.

[@Acusumano25]

in DS3 it was the dark sword spammers, and in this game it's the L2 spammers. Dark Swords 3 and L2Den Ring

[@Andrew-s3b]

Makes me appreciate DS1 more

[@papercat5829]

​@@Andrew-s3b havel flip. Dark bead spam. Tranquil walk of peace.

[@Acusumano25]

@@Andrew-s3b flashbacks of when i played the remaster, never having played the original, and buddy taught me how to backstab chain within 5 minutes. got some poor bastard with 3 or 4 in a row shortly after that

[@chop2531]

Bros mad that everyone doesnt use roll catchers.

[@qwormuli77]

The early days of DS3 with dark sword was easy life. The sequels in toggles and bowglitches were the real (unironic and straight) shit.

[@josinhio0]

Found your channel yesterday and I'm loving the videos 😂❤

[@Tak3034]

This video basically incapsulates all players in pvp. Doesn’t matter what genre shooters, fighter, or battle royale lots of player don’t think about what’s going on.

[@gentlemanjoker1777]

i've said that off and on for years, tried looking it up to see if a can find a discussion but usually can't find any meaningful discussion. or it's pros bushing it off as a gid gud issue. or it's the same nitwits to which we're referring. gaming wasn't like this even 10-12yrs ago what happened to a sense of community, saying GG and respecting other players. now a days it's just don't learn the game. devs will dumb it down n balance around the morons anyway, don't respect anyone else online, they're all npcs for you to abuse n scapegoat for your own amusement. and generally just being a doodoo gamer and a awful human being. and soon as this turns up in a game/community it'll start to rot. soon as the masses or normies or none fans or non gamers or w/e you wanna call them flood into a space b.c it's "popular" or "trending" like E.R after winning G.O.T.Y just gets flooded with scum who bring bots/ Bm = cool/ toxicity acc selling, more cheats etc. sorry i'll end it here ^^; these largely being the reason i've withdrawn from gaming past 5yrs and barely look forward to 1 title a year. just had to get this off my chest somewhere. nice to see people who are aware and can acknowledge it, do exist hope one day gaming can go back to how it used to be in the manners and community aspect.

[@1000REMBOY]

​@@gentlemanjoker1777I'm not reading all that.

[@audreyrewinded]

​@gentlemanjoker1777 When was online gaming kind? I only started playing video games around when Halo 3 came out but as long as I've ever played toxicity was completely rampant and its expected to find rude people. Not really that weird or problematic unless you're sensitive

[@LiliumCruorem]

@@gentlemanjoker1777lol what are you 15? Pvp gaming has always been disrespectful af lol. We were just more mature back then and didn’t let the mere words of idiots online get to us. Nowadays everyone in pvp gaming is a whiny little pussy.

[@fanatic9926]

I use lightning spear, if you can't learn how to not do the same thing a bagilion times and sit still then your going to eat a bagilion damage

[@FlyingBrotata]

DS1 was my first souls so I kept around level 120 ever since then I aim to keep my builds at that level. Elden Ring was the first where I went to level 150 and it felt weird :D

[@teocappy]

Since the game is longer and the late game areas are really though its only natural to reach 130~180... In Ds1 and Ds3 i beat the game at SL90~100, in ER i had to reach RL150 to even try beating radagon xD

[@JP-go5tr]

My characters are all 125 because I figured that would mean other players like me have to actually choose a build and I can understand who I am fighting

[@iggytheincubus]

I always figured 151 was the stopping point to go for, myself. I guess I just like Vigor a little too much

[@orphancrippler9526]

@@iggytheincubus Elden Ring has higher soft caps than previous "Souls" games and about level 150 would be the rune level you can expect for a "complete" build. Dark souls 1 and 3 soul levels were about 120-125, Dark souls 2 soul level were about 150-200.

[@monhi64]

Why do people say 125 or 130 is the meta for PVP? I’ve been trying to figure this out for awhile. It’s my first from soft game and I went mage so there’s pretty high stat investments. I only just hit the soft cap damage with 80 intelligence and I’m already level 140 I believe. Was kinda upset just in case I ever decide to get around to PVP and accidentally locked myself out of PvP by leveling or something

[@anthonyschlott916]

@@monhi64 I don't invade or focus on PvP so I doubt I'm the best person to say, but I'll give it a go as I have played DS3 and Bloodborne before. Basically the community has the community council (CC) of streamers/influencers/etc and they all take turns voting. It happens with pretty much every Fromsoft game where there is some internal debate over what level should be 'meta' and where we all say to stop leveling if you want to have access to the conglomerate of players who want to invade/1v1. Usually argument for higher levels is that it lets you have a more 'complete' build but advocates for lower say it's the truest test of who is able to squeeze the most out of their levels and stat points. So in short, I don't believe you have though I also don't know the current numbers of people who pvp within the ranges. I think Elden Ring is one of the first Fromsoft games where the debate became inconclusive. I take my characters now up to level 200 and stop because that's where I'm happy with them and I only occasionally hit the arena. eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Summon+Range+Calculator If you want to eventually get around to PvP, this is a useful tool for understanding who you will matchup with. The wiki also has more info if you have further questions.

[@thecockdepartment2543]

@@monhi64 soft cap is at around 50-60 in pretty much everything especially when it comes to spells otherwise its mostly wasted points

[@TGMMargaret]

I'm a DS2 PvPer, and it's fascinating to see that the same exact things that happen in DS2 happen in ER. Max level poopwalking Havel monsters (why use Flynns Ring when 838 makes you feel so powerful), Sacred Oath, Sunlight Blade, the works. I do wish you had touched a bit on why most PvP enthusiasts *don't* play at max level, such as having the ability to make build decisions. Good video.

[@A13-.133]

Sellen is slowly dominating the channel. And thats the best things that could happen.

[@javiersce6010]

Just as how she did with RayaLucaria just to end like a massive bunch of heads.. Omg ONLYWAIFU PLZ PLZ (this might sound cursed af but..) Maybe u could end up making a SellenModel that is fashioned with emeralds and stone but in the entire body just like those heads of the academy.. It took me almost 2 min to realize how weird does that sound.. I just needed it out of my system. Sorry.

[@A13-.133]

@@javiersce6010 Lmao

[@sucloxsucloxsson]

@@javiersce6010bro what

[@bluesolace9459]

Bruh casual Sellen looks too good. If she's topping the channel then I'm here for it

[@warmak4576]

You need a pope..... a dog pope

[@violence2968]

the grind is no joke, through this dlc on ng+4 and after beating the dlc i only leveled up 3 times. my total level now is 417.

[@requiemagent3014]

Max level only makes sense for PvE but only until you reach the soft cap. A vigor of 60 to a vigor of 99 makes barely any difference. For PvP this is pointless

[@IronChief13]

Nah even for PvE it's nonsense. You need 458 millions to go to level 501 and have the hard cap in everything. Then you need 1.235 BILLIONS to go to 713. And as you say stats after the hard cap are... meh. Only the carry load past the hard cap is useful

[@snowman-ib8sg]

this videos only targeted to pvp players, mostly

[@Just_B0red]

Even in PvE it's useless, even if you want to max dmg you need STR/FAI/INT/DEX/ARC 99 (one of those or 2/3) then you need some END/VIG/MIND and you still end up with level 400-500 max level does absolutely nothing

[@mitchelldittes2555]

I think the entire point is that in PVE specifically, going for the highest NG+ possible will take you beyond soft caps and lead to the highest skill bossfights possible... as for pvp it's all irrelevant

[@pokelogikx]

99% of players stop spamming L2 right before a big win! Don't stop till the gamble pays off!

[@Epsonea_482]

Ahh, max level. All intelligence, no common sense

[@DTGeorge]

Ahh, can't wait for your next video. And you put Dante on the newest one, put Doom Slayer on the next! Pls

[@miimiibeschde4818]

​@@DTGeorgethe newest Video came out today

[@DTGeorge]

@@miimiibeschde4818 I know I have seen it

[@draketinjum428]

Your only purpose in commenting on every single one of waifus videos is to scalp subscribers. Show yourself some respect.

[@zerotech8938]

i feel attacked

[@M1stRtee]

the best thing about having all stats around 60 or 80 is being able to use anything and everything at maximum efficiency, which is a lot of fun at ng+7. deaths poker + malikeths black blade + scarlett aeonia into the fire giants foot is just fun to watch

[@magnus0017]

Sorry, I've still got the VSauce song running in my head, what were we talking about? "Now, that didn't happen because I'm so strong, tarnished . . . . even though I am." - Michael, the All Knowing

[@Weyk47]

BRO "THAT'S A LOT OF NUTS!" i just watched Kung Pow the other night. Legendary movie. lol

[@azazelsiad3601]

Not me with over a thousand hours on one character who’s only level 365. I had a guy ask me, “why do you have so many hours and your only level 350?” And my response was simple “I don’t need to be a higher level.”

[@monkeybuisness.]

The Mystery Weapon is the Watchdogs' staff! Tell Roderika congrats that she kept her job

[@casperhein1892]

It could also be the "Rotten Staff" or "Axe of Godfrey"

[@monkeybuisness.]

@@casperhein1892 im not sure honestly

[@casperhein1892]

@@monkeybuisness. They all have the same amount of damage and block. And seeing as there is no more info it could be any of the three

[@monkeybuisness.]

@@casperhein1892 true but the watchdogs staff was the first one I saw so it could be any of them

[@shadowwalk1153]

THAT’LL BE 4 BUCKS BABY, YOU WANT FRIES WITH THAT

[@nexemisroguelikes234]

Very few Max Level Players are actually Competitively Decent its just a very niche Community altough i agree max level randoms have an ego thinking L2 Spamming is the bestest move.

[@Foxtail190]

I mean shoot, being high level, I can confirm that my L2s deal ridiculous damage lmao

[@crimson1953]

Same.goed with low level players

[@roberthill5805]

As a person who is max level, I stand by everything in this video. I feel like I'm stomping puppies with how much of a fight some of them put up, half the time they don't use a carian phalanx or the equivalent for defense, they don't duel as it is surprisingly refreshing to get a bow, and they burn all their FP on arts when you can just poke them with a crossbow.

[@F4ke6]

Mystery weapon is either axe of Godfrey or watchdogs staff cuz they got the same phy and DMG negation when blocking :quick edit the mystery weapon could also be rotten staff.

[@ClingyParasite]

Regardless of being low level or high level, the true sadists hang out at lvl 1. Those people are the ones you wanna avoid like the plague, you never know what level of BM they'll throw your way

[@JagorM]

Im assuming the only benifit of being max level is that you dont have to use larvel tears anymore.

[@monroedeonne7248]

The benefit is being able to use absolutely any build you want and experiment with any spells or weapons your little heart desires. The variety available to you is incredible. At least for PvE that is.

[@raikaru0]

@@monroedeonne7248 You can already do that around level 200

[@erichdegurechaff9515]

Yeah, but around 350 you can have stats to equip every item in the game, you dont need 700

[@monroedeonne7248]

@@erichdegurechaff9515 that’s true, but I just never stopped playing with that particular character, I didn’t see any reason to stop leveling and didn’t have a desire to create another character at the time… I just kept playing NG+ and made it to 713.

[@moongod424]

I have a character level 225 at ng+7 and stopped (since that's when the new game plus scaling ends and i wanted to keep it as a trophy character), purely just beating the game over and over (also let my brother do one run on the cheesiest build I could do for him). People who genuinely get involved in things like bragging about levels or gatekeeping what builds 'should' be played aren't real gamers, they just want to have control over everything they do including the only game they may be good at/passionate about.

[@TruehonestMickeyMouse]

Me being lvl 250 Vagabond, because I really wanted that 80 dex/fth, 60 vgr, 38mind, 20str for bolt of gransax, saw I was already at 200 something, said F it we ball and dumped 30 in endurance and 25 str

[@LonesomeKrow]

Based

[@thatoneguy2886]

I would argue that low level invasions are, generally harder than mid to high level for the following reasons 1 options: you get fewer options of weapons and spells particularly if you want to have high vigor 2 level gaps: while you will be generally the same level as the host, their allies are ALWAYS either the same or higher level however i have noticed that it isn't incredibly uncommon for both to be about the same level, you will still never get the possibility that someone is rolling up significantly lower level than you 3 chaos: there is no predicting what low level players will do, rush in? Lure to an ambush? actually let you duel their phantoms 1v1? pretend to let you duel only to jump in when it looks like they are losing? this might be a thing with mid-high level invasions but inexperience breeds bizarre behavior

[@matthewcriner1740]

I mean, I went the whole hog to 713. PvP is interesting because the good players swap it up like crazy mid fight. I will say I do regret going there though, I should have stayed at 125.

[@Terminalsanity]

The highest level I have on a character is about 400 lvl which I got to mostly through the runes gained through invasions you wouldn't believe the amount of times I've tricked entire gank squads into jumping into the bottomless pit near the 1st step or the amount of players that don't know you can't parry a 2 handed colossal weapon.

[@PupWishh]

It would take you no time to make a level 125 character. And just keep your super high leveled tarnished to mule

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

@@PupWishh Maybe if you mule... but as soon as you want to do something besides invade, it's not such a small feat. If you want to do CoOp AND invade, like I do, you gotta find the Stakes of Marika everywhere - and simply going around to poke them all is I shit you not a 30+ hour endeavor if you're at least making things tolerable by doing multiplayer while you do it.

[@THE_MOONMAN]

​@@monsieurdorgat6864what do you mean, why find all stakes of marika?

[@computrix230]

i'm good at pve not pvp and char lvl 300 is more than enough to help anyone who might need in during pve runs

[@elijahford3696]

I thought I was bad. Till I invaded. Then I realized what the invaders job was all along, and that I'm actually pretty decent. Max level takes all the skill out of beating the game, low level ensures a higher difficulty, and puts tighter restrictions on your build crafting. Twinking gets thrown around a lot, but in the climate of overleveled phantoms, an invader can take any advantage they can get.

[@DTGeorge]

I love my level 320 builds (pve) and you can't do nothing about it. Not saying I'm better or something, I just love it, but I'm on NG+3

[@tomcaniff6437]

farming up builds that can use whatever weapon or spell they want is just fun tbh, I love experimenting with stupid set ups and bat shit insane gimmicks

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

Ain't nothing wrong with having fun, unless it's at someone else's expense. So don't gank for the love of god...

[@DTGeorge]

@@monsieurdorgat6864 gank? Bro nobody even plays on PS5 I've never played with another player except one time that I summoned someone for malenia but he was very bad lol

[@THE_MOONMAN]

​@@DTGeorge i really doubt that. PS has way more souls players and xbox even alwasy has LFG posts up for people looking for randoms to gank people with. Not saying you partake, but id be shocked if people arent ganking on PlayStation. Theres just no way thats true

[@THE_MOONMAN]

I do agree though that having a level 300+ character is nice. I have one thats like 313 and than another thats 150 for pvp, and its great. I hope the DLC balances things a bit better so that high level pvp isnt as busted, but its noce having a high level character for testing stuff. I hate having to re stat my character just to use a weapon that is already adjacent to my build

[@rcbt4458]

Me casually doing lvl 1 no hit bosses

[@DaBluees]

nice man, so you want a cookie?

[@Inarimiko]

I have 6 characters for pve and two for pvp, no need max level for having fun.

[@OnlyWaifuYT]

Based

[@smilezzelims5129]

They max level because their meats' small. I max level because I'm SICK and TIRED of trying to remember where I got which larval tear when I wanna respec my build. We are not the same

[@overthinkingisbad]

a moment of silence for mystery thingy, ruthlessly eliminated by mystery weapon

[@markoltr6756]

Personally the only reason I want my lvl to be high is to be able to use anything anytime. But no matter how many lvls people have, you have to know how to read others movements, mechanics timing. Sometimes literally expect the unexpected, which no amount of lvls will help you with

[@thesussadin]

Never thought I'd hear second best girl Sellen say, "Golly Gee!"

[@horsthooden4600]

I think shes Ranni....

[@chips1752]

from experience, max levelers are generally younger than 15 year olds that have trouble adapting to the fast reaction gaming, so they max level to compensate. Sooo, the video is mostly refering to young teens and children playing elden and have a massive amount of time to become a high level

[@DR0NG0-t4x]

The weapon is the watchdogs staff

[@vincentkeith5259]

I don't do PVP - ever. And it's not because I suck, I do, but that's not why. There are a few people who are fun to watch, they often win, but when they lose, they do it with a smile. These players have a skill and game knowledge that I will never achieve.

[@LostWallet]

the only reason i keep leveling up is so that I can equip all the weapon, because I do like using them for fun.

[@monroedeonne7248]

Same here, I have a character that’s maxed out because as I play through NG+ I can try any type of weapon/skill/spell etc. I have another character that stays at a lower level, but my max character is tons of fun as I like to switch up constantly. Because I can.

[@Foxtail190]

Someone who gets it finally lol. I aint trying to prove anything Im just trying to co op with friends and use whatever I feel like using.

[@dennismadrid5146]

That’s why I enjoy making new character and make a new build. Not only do you learn better at pvp at being a lower level, learning how to manage ur stats and gear is way more fun then just equipping everything and spamming everything. I just switch my characters

[@monroedeonne7248]

@@dennismadrid5146 I couldn’t care less about PvP, you want to have a bunch of different characters, that’s fine. I’d rather swap gear and weapons on the fly in NG+ and see how I can adapt against the harder difficulties.

[@MrVictor1227]

Boring

[@trapperofdaeast2716]

Honestly I’m lvl 302 and for some reason it’s more difficult to get players to join when I run through any place with the summoning pool like it says they’re unable to join but when I was like lvl 100-150 it was easy to get a join up

[@gexe3181]

I've seen your videos since the Dark Souls 3 era and now somehow, here I am, trying to understand how the heck Arcane works only to notice is the same KZbin channel. Congrats on making it big, skeleton! 🎉

[@MyouKyuubi]

Arcane = Luck Just a new name, for the same stat.

[@adinwilcox3836]

An argument to be made is that if everyone fighting is a max level, then they are equal, and what it comes down too is preparation and skill, as every has access to the same things. But in practice, it's seems to be even more lopsided, as only a few things truly become viable

[@hazelnutlasagna7321]

The mystery weapon is the Axe of Godfrey!!!

[@ULTRAKLOWN]

He sounds exactly what a max lvl player sound like in my head

[@OmicronX-1999]

The thing is, most players who level beyond lvl 250 or so have got there by rune farming, if they didn't take one of the more underhanded routes and used save editors or, horror of horrors, actually paid real money to buy runes online. I finally finished the game at lvl 300 and something, and I did it mostly by making the Moghwyn bird fall to its death for probably a full week of real time play. I spent more time at Palace Overlook Ledge-Road than any other location in the game by far, and after I eventually beat the game, I went right back and combined the Moghwyn bird with the Albinauric genocide until I was close to lvl 400 in preparation for the DLC. The point I'm trying to make is, I'm the kind of player whose preferred method of beating soulslikes is to overlevel my character until they're a physical God and then break the difficulty curve over my knee. Also I hate most forms of social interaction so I've always avoided the PvP side of the games. Sure, I've done it once or twice in DS1 and DS2, and I dipped my toes into Eden Ring invasions for about three days a few months back, but I know full well I'd get destroyed by experienced PvP'ers despite my character's high level, because I deliberately don't play the game in a way that develops my skill at the game beyond being all that much better than the average casual player. I'd bet money most max level players are in the same boat as me. The type of person who will grind that high grinds to overpower challenges the same way I do. The fact that doing so means you've played the game longer doesn't mean anything if most of that time was spent tricking giant monster birds into running head first off cliffs. Honestly I'd say the lvl170 PvP crowd will in general be much more proficient at the game because lvl170 is the most competitive level range and people who stay at that level to PvP are doing it more often and at higher skill levels. TL:DR - Having a bigger stick means nothing if you don't know how to swing it like somebody who knows what they're doing.

[@Hullbreachdetected]

Do you realize the DLC area will use new stats? Your RL1 and RL400 will be the same there, gear is the only thing will matter.

[@Heinz4455]

Same as me so when i tried pvp for the first time for see it well looklike i look stupid exactly like these people

[@prodigy_xd]

The PVE game already teaches you that ashes have no use in a PVP fight. The scripted invaders will dodge each and every L1/LB cast and jump attack you in retaliation. Even if they seemingly have a short downtime from a heavy attack, they will still be able to dodge roll the ash cast. That should tell anyone with a brain to switch up the playstyle for such encounters and just play it smart. Experienced players should have learned from that just like i did early on, and im just a NG2 scrub.

[@IBeatBees]

The mystery weapon is the watchdog's staff

[@capri5246]

I’m a challenge runner who is in a friend group full of max levels. I like my friends cuz I like to hang out with them but it gets frustrating when the vibe is what it is sometimes. Like they will be completely sweating in their max level charicter meanwhile I got my fashion souls on at level 70-90 and I’m still running their shit. But since they technically won they feel an inflated sense of skill and totally gloss over the fact that I dodged 99% of their attacks and absolutely juggled them. But since they’re here max level they got one or 2 shots off and kill me. I don’t mind the challenge, it’s why I play with them, butttt it’s really sad to see sooo many ppl doing this. TLDR if your max level, you are playing easy mode and you have no right to claim any skill, even if you are skilled otherwise. It’s like bragging about beating someone up in full diamond enchanted armor when they are in regular iron armor

[@Delinka3D]

Hey! I featured in your video! Woohoo! I actually remember that fight and I also remeber that I had defeated you in our previous encounter near windmill village. The only reason I do remember you is because you're one of the VERY few invaders that got my scalp and that's because I underestimated your skill based on our first encounter. I admit you may know more about the game and have much more skill than me but you'll have a very tough time defeating "Turtle Power" 😎 cause for what I lack in gamer skill I compensate with streetsmarts and brawn. I'm happy to have featured in one of your videos and to have encountered you in the game, I'm a big fan. Till we meet again, I wish you success. PS. My new hunting spot is at Queen's Bedchamber, please feel free to come and test your skill some more 😉

[@Evanz111]

Have you had any encounters since? I need a lore update :o

[@HCG]

Reading this made me cringe

[@Delinka3D]

​@@Evanz111I can't say, with over 2,000 slain invaders under my belt I can't tell who's who 😁

[@Delinka3D]

​Thanks for sharing your feelings, not sure how that make me feel, not sure I care enough... 🤔

[@losoldsdeinternet6273]

"You want to reach higher levels because you want to prove something. I want to reach higher levels so I could use a cool weapon I found, we are not the same" -Someone who just want to have fun

[@Eternal_Placidity]

Waifu attacking disabled people now? Goddamn.

[@OnlyWaifuYT]

💀

[@Onkar_xd]

I love this channel lmao i binged all the videos

[@OnlyWaifuYT]

Slow Binging in the Dark

[@Trax95]

Never been much of a pvp player, but I hit the “Max Level” mentality to a lesser degree on the final boss of the SOTE DLC. So many times I got him to a one hit, and would just be slaughtered. Leveled from 200 to like…235 now? On NG3. Went back, still lost. Turns out the issue was actually the fact that I was losing aggro to my summon. So many of the DLC bosses actually get a lot easier when you’re their only focus.

[@mathemann5570]

Invincible and touhou mentioned? This is heaven

[@deejay554]

There is another, equally cancerous side of the coin: people claiming that anyone who leveled a character above level 80 has not actually beaten the game and was cheating, because from 81+ it's no longer "real souls".

[@KenanVonKaiser]

Ms Marvel Is Goated 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵!

[@hakageryu-hz7jz]

In Dark Souls 2, I was SL 200 on my main character, and didn't really care much about the PvP meta as far as levels were concerned. Did a ton of PvP on Iron Bridge, and in the usual people who showed up was always the same person who used only the highest damage weapon (That one glaive/halberd) and was max level, as proven by the number of souls we got when we killed them. They didn't completely suck, but they would have lost at least 75% more of their matches had they not had 99 in every stat. Some people only want to win, not to earn it. I fucking miss the hackers that gave themselves busted ass but still beatable movesets and would just do PvP so it would be like a boss fight.

[@Valkyrie649]

I’m close to that I’m level 700 everything is max accept intelligence sorry ranni it’s only 86

[@francois9018]

I'm a bad player, pvp wise. But I love testing out builds and just playing with friends. This game has such rich potential with how you can mix and match things or takes specific themes. Its why I really enjoy the seamless coop mod, allows me to just have casual fun with friends without having to worry about getting invaded. The added bonus of running around on glitchy torrents is also hilarious.

[@hazelnutlasagna7321]

40 seconds let's gooo

[@alduinthetyrant5225]

Claiming that being higher leveled denotes higher skill is a very funny statement considering a cornerstone of the souls community is a test of skill known as a "Soul level 1", or "sl1" run.

[@charlestalbotrice2007]

Tbh I think they are just new to pvp. L2 spam just about cuts it for PvE, but for PvP the enemies actually have brains

[@6Theories]

This is a rather cold take; but most people that are semi-"serious" about PVP will generally aim to land their build somewhere between level 40-120 (but there seems to be a decent amount of action up to level 200 in ER specifically). This is to ensure build diversity (in theory anyway, I'm well aware 99.9% of PVP matches will contain META builds...) but this also means that the people that go far beyond these brackets generally won't be fighting good, or even decent, PVP:ers. So in short, these are people that've spent hundreds of hours fighting PVE in NG+infinity (assuming they didn't just cheat their way to max level), and they're mostly fighting people that've done the same. Of course they're going to be clueless in PVP.

[@Zarkrer]

Tengo un amigo q es la definición de redditor, no se puede entrar en razón con esa gente

[@DrPiggy101]

I've got a single character that's at least over lvl 250 and legit the only reason was because I collected every armament and piece of armor and wanted to be able to use them all and be able to change up my playstyle without going through the whole game and tracking down the items I wanted, but to get to max level legitimately is insane. I've played through it technically 6 times on one character cause me and a friend played it together and I'm still no where close to max lvl even though I fought every boss on every run and have grinded multiple times.

[@JudgeNicodemus]

They reach max level as a crutch. I grinded for max level so I can do different builds in ng+ cycles without making new characters.

[@Skewda]

I’m getting to max level using only the runes I pick up from luring invaders (1v1s only). If you can win 90-95% of your fights, it can be a fun/fast way to level up when you’re over lvl 400-500

[@hightiernub1313]

Being max level means you have a lot more arsenal, but also means you need to be skilled to use such arsenal. Being low-level could make your tactics 1 dimensional and predictable but still can also take skill to fight with limit arsenal.

[@o3941]

So, I can't speak for anyone else who didn't pump vigor up, but when I first played, I knew magic would be powerful. I knew it was looked down on. I gave no fucks, and specifically didn't level vigor past 35-37. It was my own form of added challenge. I had enough HP to not get 1-shotted by a boss, and that was it. I wanted FP, I wanted Stamina, I wanted more powerful purple rocks and blue stones to throw at the enemy. It was only when I hit NG+ that I started to level it. My original character's currently at 237.

[@Lainlegend]

I don't know if this holds true in Elden Ring.. but I always holded myself to the older souls meta levels.. 120 for pvp 150 for coop..

[@MrKillerdie]

Been rocking that sweet sl125

[@mbazzanella6400]

I just got to level 300 and decided to see of arena is active at this level. It is. And it's the weirdest experience. It is an even split between people bringing back old lazy metas and creative builds I've never imagined. It is also an even split between players who have obviously never PVPed before and players whose mastery of spacing and true combos is alarming- like to the point of needing a wellness check. It's super bizarre.

[@MoonTurky]

And here i am sitting, trying to find a single arena match, 20 minutes, nothing, log into different characters of different levels, nothing, make sure i have cross platform turned on, 30 minutes, nothing I thought it was beyond dead

[@ASNS117Zero]

I think a lot of people will get to high levels, like, 300+, specifically so they can play co-op w/o invasions. At least, that's what me and a buddy did in Dark Souls 3. We just dumped a bunch of levels into useless stats that had nothing to do with our builds explicitly to get to such a high level that we could do co-op w/o getting invaded when we wanted to play w/o invasions one time.

[@shadedias5563]

Lower level characters are either newbies or people doing specific builds (or every so often are twink builds going after newbies with stuff they shouldn't have because killing newer players is the only way they can win). Higher level players are either Mohg palace grinders, people with 1 character, people looking to have a "I can do anything character", are AFK farmers... or worst of all, PAID ACTUAL MONEY for rune drops... there ARE lots of good playrrs in low and high level... it's just the bad types of players are more noticable.

[@sengets5968]

Im lvl 521, and the number of people who just spam and panic roll in both pvp and pve is astonishing

[@rafaelbordoni516]

I feel like Sellen and Ranni could have been friends if they met, they're both dissidents who shunned the current state of things. Biggest difference is that Ranni was much smarter, did things in secrecy and pretty much succeeds (if the player chooses to go with her) while Sellen didn't try to hide at all and got punished for it, getting a bad ending even if the player helps her. Sad how every sorcery teacher in From Software games are so cool and friendly but they all get bad endings =(

[@imanallamericanrejek]

I'm becoming high-level not because of my skills, but more-so my lack thereof 😂

[@t3tsuyaguy1]

The thing is, assuming they didn't cheat, they have to have spent a huge amount of time farming. That means the many hours other players spend actually learning to fight were spent repeating simple runs.

[@bloodyidit4506]

the thing about this game is there's enough cheese that it's entirely possible to not learn basic aspects of the game. I started out as a dirty Moonveil spammer but hit a wall at PVP, so I retrained as a Guts Greatsword user and explored more options, did research on PVP and I got better at games in general. That was my own choice and the truth is that this game doesn't teach very well lol, most of my knowledge came from the outside.

[@DoctorTBR]

I exclusively play at max level, but I fully accept that it only makes things easier and I don't engage in PVP.

[@EminemInEldenRing]

Ah yes killing frogs at mohg’s sex dungeon is very skilled and hard🦧

[@leek5682]

The first sign of incompetence I look for is roll spamming after getting hit. A good player expects an average player to roll after getting hit with a running R1, so they stagger the next attack to catch the roll. Prove you are sigma by boldly refusing to roll after getting hit and just walk right into them. The ash of war spam is "tell me you're a talentless insecure loser without telling me"

[@GlyphAbiff]

I'm max level with hundreds of hours, and this channel inspired me to finally learn how to parry because that's what really separates the men from the boys.

[@antoineguerrier2965]

As a pure pve player, I only level vigor enough to get out of one tap territory, so I can understand someone doing some multiplayer to mess around with friends having only 35 vigor. The other stats are more fun to invest in.

[@themasterofdisaster9052]

I’m curious, have you ever met someone who got to max level legitimately. I mean I got 130+ hours on my character and I’m only at level 243. So how long would it even take to get to max level?