Elden Ring Shadow Of The Erdtree | The New Best Bleed Build - Impenetrable Thorns Location Guide

[@syrobe]

thanks for the mention! good stuff 🎉

[@Bob_thegreat]

for anyone wondering, yes this somehow survived the latest patch

[@Ghostprince31]

Hasn’t it survived again? Which btw this means impenetrable thorns was intentionally made like this which is odd…

[@Pandadragoon]

I saw SYROBE's video yesterday and it is what helped me beat the final boss after banging my head against the wall for hours. Ended up using the same talismans as you but used the Alberich's Set for armor and Dung Eater as my tank.

[@BloodersFox]

I went the opposite way, I did a tank build with the fingerprint shield and a great spear. I was stuck for hours.

[@gaminglord2138]

Any tip for that boss? I am struggling with that one ... Tried perfume build but still can't do damage much .like syrobe did ..please any advice ..thanks alot

[@BloodersFox]

@gaminglord2138 I did a tank build strat the first time I beat him. Finger Print shield, Mohg spear. And the best armor I could equip. My talismans were Lord of Blood, a talisman that boosts physical defence. A talisman that boosts holy defence, and the twin turtle talisman. I then just poked him to death while hiding behind the shield. Bloodfiends Blood Arm is another option, it's easily the most broken weapon in the Dlc. Just do a bleed build and press R2 it's a colossal weapon with insta bleed, I'd recommend Cragblade as the Ash for easier stuns. He can also be, parried there's plenty of no hit runs where he gets parried to death. You can also just go blow for blow with him with another tank build, it'd require the most defensive armor you could get. The Giant crusher with Lions Claw (not the new one). Physical and Holy defence boosting talismans. And Melanias great rune. Essentially it's just pure defence. This one isn't super reliable tho. Both this build and the top one just use Physicks that boosts defence. Sorry for the message being long, I wanted to give multiple ways I've seen people beat em and some that have worked for me. Other than that just keep at it and don't give up. The physical and holy defence talismans, should be the best ones you can get. Sorry for any spelling mistakes I'm not wearing my glasses so I can't see.

[@BloodersFox]

​@gaminglord2138 I dunno if my last reply got sent or not. So I'll do it again. Build 1: a great spear tank build. Best possible armor, Dragoncrest Greatshield Talisman, Golden Braid, twin turtle and lord of blood exultation. Use fingerprint shield and a great spear with bleed. You can also parry him to death, plenty of no hit runs do that. Bloodfiends blood arm build. It's a bleed build, do a heavy attack and win. Giant Crusher tank build. Giant Crusher with lion's claw, melanias great rune. Stack as much holy defence and physical defence as possible. Wear the the best possible possible armor. Talismans are Two handed Talisman, shard of Alexander, Golden braid and Dragoncrest Greatshield. With this one you just go blow for blow. Other than that keep at it and don't give up. I've seen these builds work and I've made them work. First build works the best. If you have any questions feel free to ask.

[@walpurgisnight7]

I think the point of the DLC has been to encourage creative play to offset difficulty. They know we like finding cool ways to break encounters lol

[@House_of_Green]

Thats what it’s always about to me, you got plenty of options.

[@STNJ_YT]

Nah they just didn't play test any of these banana weapons and spells

[@v0x712]

​@@STNJ_YTI think they test at least some of the weapons and whatever etc, but they want players to feel extremely godly in dmg department but will nerf it, hell look at ROB/rivers of blood.

[@nanashiryuu5630]

Encourage creative play Yeah right. more like encourage players to find a new Ash of war or Weapon to slap BLEED on. nothing creative about bleed spamming

[@STNJ_YT]

@@v0x712 that makes literally zero sense.

[@filipesilva7778]

Hello 👋🏼 former perfumers!

[@julpet6145]

:D

[@b3ralph92]

hello to you too

[@asajoseph13fn52]

LOL

[@darrenthompson7995]

Been working a lot and been gathering the stuff to get the perfume build just to find out it’s been patched today lol well screw it I just wanna destroy Radahn and I’ll beat him the right way on my bonk character I didn’t know the build has been out for two weeks lol

[@nerdoutreachprogram5358]

Lol I’m so glad the thorns haven’t been nerfed.

[@screamer22222]

i cant believe you are doing the shoutout to syrobe!!! great, well done, arekkz gaming, always great content, love it!!

[@jimmyabort8763]

Syrobe is the goat for builds

[@aristophanes00]

Thanks for explaining this new bleed build. Using it, I was able to defeat Radahn consort of Miquella after about two dozen tries. Would never have finished it otherwise. Highly recommended for Shadow endgame.

[@zzZmakaveli]

Same

[@Ocean5ix]

Now that this build is "out there" From will 100% nerf it. Funny how they've been quiet on the insane difficulty of the last boss but will surely nerf broken builds ASAP.

[@dracowolf2081]

They just want everyone to poke the last boss to death.

[@dec2567]

The dlc just came out are you expecting a patch today? 😂😂

[@Ocean5ix]

@@dec2567 Oh they're quick when it's about nerfs.

[@pacman5800]

Wouldn't be surprised if we get a patch in the next couple of days with secret nerfs that will not be mentioned in the patch notes

[@theninja2k14]

​@@pacman5800their first patch didn't come until a month later after release so probably you got 1 month to have fun

[@Oozerl252]

Big ups for actually shouting out syrobe cuz he’s been doing hella

[@gamingvideos3560]

I tried it. It's CRAZY WORK

[@dylanmorgan3949]

The only thing i would add (if your ok with being squisher) is use the alberich armor set (except legs they don't boost) because the head hands and chest all boost thorn sorcery by 6% each (18% total)

[@ThaiiAnh]

True but fashion souls is just TOO important 😅

[@jarlhenrik]

Would losing 6% thorn to gain 10% bleed be worth it? Thinking of White Mask. I've def had people run this build on the last DLC boss while I've tanked him. It's the only Mage style that has seemed to work

[@RedXIII365]

The Maternal Staff has a A in scaling for Arcane and Intelligence. So if you scale both stats to 80 you do alot more damage.

[@v0x712]

Doesn't it have a cap where it just eventually increases damage by a singular digit? I might be wrong if so please correct me

[@RedXIII365]

I got both stats to 80 and the sorcery scaling is 430. To my knowledge that is the highest out of all the staffs you can use. An S tier only scales to 413.

[@clivelowell4273]

@@RedXIII365it’s 413 and I have both stats at 80, how

[@RedXIII365]

@@clivelowell4273 My stats are as follows: Vigor 60 Mind 60 Endurance 63 Strength 50 Dexterity 70 Intelligence 80 Faith 80 Arcane 80

[@GodKingButters]

@@RedXIII365Holy hell you must be max level

[@TheDonBalboa]

They knew what they were doing. They aren’t gonna put a new staff that scales that high in arcane and a new stronger thorn sorcery not expecting us to use it in bleed builds. As far as I’m concerned it should stay.

[@dakotamcgee6432]

Do you think using the thorn armor from that one mage(forgot his name) but the hat chest and gloves boost thorn sorcery. Would that be even better damage?

[@anthonypacemusic6786]

great build, it helped me finally beat Rahdahn ;-) Thorns to the rescue

[@nicologuerriero6723]

bro pls help me why i don’t have the arcane scaling?

[@anthonypacemusic6786]

@@nicologuerriero6723 did you get both staffs

[@greatlovevenerableimmortal3333]

I wanted to say I solo(ed) the final boss with this build in literally 7 shots .. IDK why people complain so much when something like this exists .. YOU ARE STRONGER THAN ANY BOSS

[@shadowwolfgm-br2353]

How about mix wonderous physick any ideas what is best to have on it?

[@dariru27]

lmao the frenzied guy died in 5seconds, ty for this build

[@danielbaseball6811]

I just did that today, took me a few tries but holy shit, yeah, when you land them consecutively right on him it's night night. So satisfying.

[@darthinfection6367]

I first saw this build from a random guy called blight who tried helping me with messmer, he was doing all the work but never could beat him, after doing some research this build is legit😂

[@mannymanuel4800]

This build is op af, helped me bleed out consort radahn in about 10ish attempts. Thanks a mil. Was struggling to even get to 2nd phase, 2 hits, then cut scene 😂 holy f*k

[@harshitrakhiani8833]

Is it still working after patch update?

[@mannymanuel4800]

Yes, it survived👍

[@harshitrakhiani8833]

@@mannymanuel4800 can u pls share the requirements and items needed?

[@mannymanuel4800]

@@harshitrakhiani8833 all is explained in the video. Pay attention lol

[@hungry4dpower336]

Any alternative for white mask? I don't have it unfortunately. I'm running str/fth build and really enjoy it. Was thinking to respec and tryout this build to see how much fun is it, then to go back with str/faith.

[@zkskakksis1514]

The white mask is pretty easy to get, its just from mohgs location with an npc invasion On top of myhead I dont think theres a similar alternative.

[@scott5912]

@@zkskakksis1514but if you’re in the dlc, mohg is already dead, and mohg needs to be alive for the invasion to spawn

[@zkskakksis1514]

​@@scott5912 oh I didnt know that. I suppose maybe just get the magic shrouding cracked tear for the wondrous physick as alternative. As for the head slot maybe just get the intelligence boosting ones.

[@kakyoink1987]

Alberich's Pointed Hat increases the strength of thorn sorceries if you have that

[@bkteer]

does staff of the guilty work though? The wiki lists the impenetrable thorns spell as a scadutree sorcery instead of a thorn sorcery.

[@Fire.and.Forget]

you can test it yourself

[@Martin_Scortese_]

I was able to kill the last boss at ng+9 thanks to this build, really broken. Thank you for sharing it.

[@dspmusik81]

Does leveling up the staff of the guilty multiply the thorn boost?

[@ZoranBlackRose]

I love videos like this and i always enjoy watching them but part of me wishes, especially for Elden ring, that they weren't made given fromsofts recent mindset of nerf everything the fanbase finds fun to to brake and play with, and videos like this lead them right to it lol great vid as always though man

[@jasminbertrand923]

Can you wear alberichs set to do more thorn damage or it wont work?

[@rgctoxicity7728]

You can also use the frenzy spell that gives you a dmg buff

[@pivotomega]

This was the one brother… I killed every boss except Romina.. I could get her until this build. Thank you!

[@PapaTanduo]

If I use a staff that scales with intelligence but still get my arcane high will it be any good?

[@jasonheath7045]

Had no idea the albinauric staff was nerfed, I used it cause of the s scaling in Arcane

[@ct-782hevy4]

Honestly I’ve found that even if you just use guilty staff and about 50 faith it can still do great damage and bleeds in 2-3 hits so it’s become a great addition to my faith/ quality build as a solid damage incantation without any real investment in it

[@platterbuss2328]

Im keeping game to offline mode going forward. I wasnt bothered about rolling sparks, was so awkward to land but endure plus thorns is a nice combo and if a sliver of health left the scarlet rot sword is nice and fast to finish off some enemies

[@emknight2]

Combo with mimic tear and its good too just sometimes casts with the off hand staff

[@PROUD_CANADIAN78]

I just beat Radahn in my second try with this build 🔥🔥🔥

[@gaminglord2138]

They did nerf it or not?

[@PROUD_CANADIAN78]

@@gaminglord2138 no I used it this morning. Been easily beating most bosses in a few hits. I returned to the campaign and ate Fire Giant alive with it

[@gaminglord2138]

@@PROUD_CANADIAN78 so I can kill last boss with this?

[@PROUD_CANADIAN78]

@@gaminglord2138 I beat him in my second try using it.

[@PROUD_CANADIAN78]

@@gaminglord2138 put the same build on your summons. Both of you fight the last boss ONLY with this spell and build. Your mimic will go into the match and start SPAMMING the Throne spell all over, Radagn will agro to him which will be your chance to also start spamming the thorns. Radagn will take massive damage all around. Just made sure to let the mimic take the agro and you use your thorns as he is attacking your mimic. You will kill him fast with this full build.

[@matthew5395]

Are ppl tripping or did this just get nerfed? Cuz on NG8 it doesn’t do squat vs messmer. Hit him 3 times with 80 arcane and no bleed proc

[@Ardeus]

I think a patch just came and it along with rolling sparks perfume and other good stuff got nerfed

[@chriss6614]

Wondering the same

[@matthew5395]

Well on the plus side, bloodfiends arm still kicks butt. Slapped messmer around with two of those bad boys/jump attacks. Poor guy didn’t know what hit em’ That was on NG8, bleed proc’d every other hit

[@Fraudkunna]

I can verify it didn’t get nerfed I’m on ng plus 9 and I destroyed radahn

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

Isnt alberichs pointed hat better since it strengthens thorn sorcery?

[@Fire.and.Forget]

no idea since the impenetrable thorns sorcery belongs to scadutree school magic

[@leonharris5460]

It counts as a thorn sorcery

[@Xdori23]

SYROBE really the trendsetter outchea 💪🏾🔥

[@blazingzombiex1724]

Any suggestions for the Flask?

[@luna_kits2345]

Hi I'm still in the first playthrough of the DLC, i hope you can confirm that there are no missable items required in the build. TIA.

[@ohzaphix795]

What did you use in the Physick

[@_imhungry]

FOR PEOPLE HERE IN THE NEWEST UPDATE, THEY NERFED THIS TERRIBLY. DO NOT DO THIS. IF YOU WANT A GOOD BUILD, LOOK UP RAKSHASA BUILDS. THEY ARE AMAZING

[@TaartRBC1990]

Its unclear. Do i need to wear the seal or just equip it? I cant use the vow of gold

[@xchimera9552]

Not gone lie I'm learning the sword we get from the eldin beast is the weapon to use its destroying bosses for me

[@setha7398]

It's amazing against every boss except the two really hard ones , messemer and the final boss. They jump over it and rarely get staggered by it. Not to mention they both have a lot of holy damage resistance. I went into the dlc with it and flew through almost every boss but the two hardest ones. Had to switch off it unfortunately

[@zeye5921]

which staff should i use the thorn skill on?

[@J10B100]

Maternal staff

[@Dinxw123]

Graven mass taliman or shard of alexander? What would be a better option?

[@thomassurbellajr3840]

Graven mass because shard of Alexander only boosts skills

[@foofighter-cr4xp]

What flask's would u guy's recommend for this?

[@itachi8044]

you dont need any

[@saiboticrage8581]

Love that you use main gauche on your right hand but main gauche means , my left in french (thank you Duolingo)

[@soullight7003]

What about the staffs that boosts Thorn sorceries with that spell

[@mercurialblonde]

I hope it doesn't get nerfed. I use the spell as a faith build just with the staff of the guilty. The spell isn't broken. The maternal staff is

[@HolesomeVR]

There's also a set of gear that increase thorn spell damage.

[@DuskYokai]

So many dlc setups are completely busted I don't understand if they didn't test or if there fine with them

[@jasonheath7045]

I really hope they don't nerf this, the bosses are very difficult in the game plus they attack really fast so this spell leaves you vulnerable when casting A lot of nerfs need to be done to pvp and not pve (Talking to you Swift Slash ash of war)

[@gaminglord2138]

Will this build work on final boss? 😢

[@savage1144]

Iv seen so many “THIS IS THE BEST BUILD” and at most like 2k damage which is horrid for the bosses in this dlc but this build is truly the “best build” Iv ever seen. Iv almost one shot every boss.

[@TheArmyofHades]

Ive killed Radahn in various inefficient ways (dryleaf arts, twin spears, gazing finger) but impenetrable thorns was fun to use. Its not as easy as ppl say though, only phase one is a joke. Phase two you need to hope he does the moves that leave openings and that he decides to stay close otherwise you will need to reset if he simply decides to keep distance and do the phantom slashes all the time. Bloodfiend arm is still the easiest Radahn kill.

[@BigFloppa-_-]

Tried bloodfiends arm and it was just not working good and i have 80 arcane and i was using royal knights resolve so I resorted to this and got more out of the thorns sorcery

[@LolTac0Bell]

​@@BigFloppa-_-they nerfed Bloodfiend Arm in the patch too 😢

[@TheArmyofHades]

@@BigFloppa-_- Curious about this. Of course each player has their own experience in the game, but are you familiar in general using heavy weapons? Did you know Radahns openings? And how were you trying to utilize the bloodfiend by fully charging r2, by jump attacks, by regular r2? Just asking out of sheer curiosity.

[@TheArmyofHades]

@@LolTac0Bell I think it was not massacred like the rest though, its overall damage was lessened in terms of AR but it had bad AR to begin with, the blood loss is pretty much the same the difference is negligible. At least from what ive seen in testing.

[@BigFloppa-_-]

@@TheArmyofHades trust me bro I was literally doing what your supposed to do with the blood fiend arm everytime rahdahn was open I always charged R2 him and it was just not dishing as much damage as the thorns sorcery

[@mikhaelalmazov817]

Hello, the assembly is strong, but I couldn't kill Mesmer with it, but the katana dragon fighter helped me kill him for 10 times on ng +++ One question, what kind of sword do you have in the video when you pick up thorns

[@AlexisFernandez-du5pl]

Using it today shits insane in July 2024

[@TheInfamousWolf]

Fromsoft can't help themselves, they will end up nerfing this to the ground but keep bleed and dex as the filthy meta rather than spreading things out.

[@OG1Jayy]

They don’t need to nerf bleed lmao. Frostbite is arguably just as powerful and it’s definitely better in the dlc than the base game since almost everything is weak to it. Too add, STOP SAYING SHIT NEEDS TO GET NERFED AND TO “SPREAD THINGS OUT”. NOTHING NEEDS A NERF, BUT A TON OF OTHER THINGS NEED MASSIVE BUFFS.

[@Senderson-et9fq]

Stood right before a perfumer enemy, casted it and it wasnt a one shot lmao, and i have 99 arcane 😂. Crazy, I dont know what I am doing wrong, its not working for some reason.

[@KEKWSadge]

dam i just made this build this morning before taking a nap , woke up tried it and dam it got nerfed bad with the patch :(

[@bstclan5831]

No it didn't lol

[@hugofragoso5887]

Yea I took Bayle out quick first try

[@SSS-Has]

Thank you🤩

[@lammie-858]

Can anyone tell me why I need a second staff on the left hand? Does it increase damage of the thorns?

[@badkarma368]

Yes it does

[@KaBrook]

Got to be staff of the guilty as it boosts thorn sorcery and cause slight blood loss buildup. No brainer for me

[@syfayre3957]

What would they nerf about this to make it not broken but also not useless? Sorceries/ incants like this one really are complicated to balance

[@cystamistic]

decrease bleed proc

[@syfayre3957]

@@cystamistic ya but the poise dmg and the normal dmg is still super strong

[@realsatt]

I just beat the final boss with this after respecing my arcane stat from 22 to 85 thanks gents

[@darthode]

You just wasted 5 stats, 80 is the hard cap unless your using Morgotts ruin that gives +5 to each stat

[@Gamfluent]

Did everyone forget about Alberto’s wardrobe?

[@lancelot2615]

Flask recommandation?

[@larryglasper7605]

It works perfect with my 713 level.

[@TheRetro_Furry]

the bat right at the impenetrable thorns spell was nice to me lol

[@alfredofiguera1340]

Need second hand staff +25?

[@julpet6145]

What is with alexanders sharb?

[@SERENDIPITY-b6e]

This just saved my sanity.

[@theplayerschannel6589]

Did this build and melted the final boss on the 5th try

[@user-ke2cd3oi4h]

was your build tanky or no? cos it feels like when i try this he just slams his blades on my cranium and drains my hp (15 blessings btw)

[@mingi1489]

This DLC has so many good and fun weapons but Sword of night is the coolest

[@boscarbru]

The Albinauric staff now has C arcane scaling and the Maternal staff has D arcane scaling. So the Albinauric staff is the best option now.

[@leonharris5460]

Not only are you completely lost with the scaling because C and D are not even close to each staffs real scaling, but the albinauric staff got nerfed to do a lot less status buildup, so the maternal staff is better because it does more status buildup

[@sonny7874]

Thank you

[@GamerTag999]

Replace radagon icon with beloved stardust

[@exalphagosthedestroyerofwo4873]

Still cant figure out how to get to the Dark Chambers Entrance

[@stevenrobinson1614]

Anyone know if raising faith higher does a difference

[@unknownmain69]

nah the spell scales off of arcane since its a bleed spell

[@ashisel]

i don’t understand what i’m doing wrong, the only thing i don’t have is white mask and im barely doing any damge

[@larssoderstrom6244]

People say it has been nerfed already

[@davidrieck6302]

Wich sword is this at 1.13min ?

[@HiVoltg3]

That's the Fire Knight's Greatsword.

[@Kain_Highwind_]

For the records, Death Prince's staff remains the best one.

[@leonharris5460]

Yeah but no arcane scaling which means no crazy bleed buildup which is where most of the damage actually comes from

[@danielabargil4936]

I have done everything in this video and still can’t get those dmg numbers??????

[@JoeWillz82]

Did you upgrade the staff to +25?

[@danielabargil4936]

@@JoeWillz82 yeah now I did it’s doing the good numbers thanks

[@thomasfurrer1340]

Same for me Daniel at least you know that your not along 😢

[@hailakmal4683]

Whats your wondrous physick

[@zerorezy]

Mine doesn’t do bleed and I have everything in the build

[@BigFloppa-_-]

Do you have a lot of arcane? Also for the sorcery to do a fuck ton of damage all the thorns have to land on the boss/enemy

[@Senderson-et9fq]

Same, everything. Doesnt do anything 😮

[@zerorezy]

@@BigFloppa-_- my arcane is at 80

[@BigFloppa-_-]

@@zerorezy I was using it against rahdahn you gotta be up close and personal like right on his balls and spam that shit and the bleed loss damage is crazy if your kinda far it won’t rlly hit hard and do that much damage

[@zerorezy]

@@BigFloppa-_- no but my problem is it’s not doing bleed

[@gardevoirtrainer4526]

It's still good without the Varre mask, which is good since I missed it on my current playthrough.

[@jacksongrinage8172]

if only i still had my bell bearing to upgrade weapons, i had them all at one point

[@ho1mi8ci7de4]

Yea go try this build on the 1st mob on 7th floor of castle lol can't even get a cast off 👍

[@madmanvarietyshow9605]

So I made a backup of my save to try this out and yeah it's busted good. 100% too good. I love it, but you know it's a gonna get abused by everyone until From is forced to nerf it because it's a breaks everything kind of good.

[@CharlieKampp]

This saved me from messmer’s wrath

[@zachkroening3584]

First off… how do I defeat metyr because he’s near impossible

[@lordkars3971]

Weak to scarlet rot. You can scum any rot breath + run

[@dannyfugon1213]

After putting my stats on right and talismans I went back to fighting Radahn in the dlc and beat him first try after a week of trying to beat him 😭

[@nomecognome8448]

Ng?

[@dannyfugon1213]

@@nomecognome8448ng+4

[@Toothbrushs]

@@nomecognome8448does it matter?

[@nomecognome8448]

@@Toothbrushs obv

[@mr.gamingz]

The souls community: Using spirit ashes is noob shit. Also the souls community: Yeah, a cast that deals 25% damage to bosses is totally fine. 😂

[@sakuranohana1014]

Their ego is out of this world.

[@Gamfluent]

@@raijinthemaster88holy yap fest

[@its_sonoska]

Wish they could separate pvp and pve nerfs

[@fahdalarming4566]

I can’t put the ash of war why ?

[@Slow_KZx10r]

Killed the final boss of the dlc first try with this build😂

[@dede_701]

I've beat messmer with the torns😅

[@Lil_Downy]

i got it on my first respawn

[@michaelumiker3561]

Nothing about this build is going to get nerfed, look at the other nerfs and the videos around those items and you will realize 2 things 1. Those items are still pve viable 2. They were impossible to deal with in pvp, the only nerfs for 2 years have been aimed at pvp while maintaining pve viability so you should all really pay attention to whats been going on for the last 2 years before opening your mouths. Remember, it's better to be thought a fool then to open ones mouth and prove it

[@dceasedbrickfan74]

Everyone making the same bleed build & I’m mad I can’t get a black steel great hammer. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@nicknick6380]

Trade you one for white mask if you're on pc?

[@dceasedbrickfan74]

@@nicknick6380 I’m not. Sorry.

[@ultrabash5]

Uhh... You can find it in the Church of Consolation, friendo. To the right of where you first spawn into the DLC iirc.

[@dceasedbrickfan74]

@@ultrabash5 if you were playing offline & didn’t know about a secret update you got the shield.

[@ultrabash5]

@@dceasedbrickfan74 That's nuts! If you're on PS5, I'll drop mine for you. I don't use it.

[@sportybaby797]

This buildvturns the game into easy mode