Electric Cars: Inconvenient Facts, Part One

Politicians and activists who want all cars to go electric are guilty of magical thinking.
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Electric car sales are up 66% this year.
President Biden says the future is "electric… and there’s no turning back.”
California and New York are banning sales of new gas-powered vehicles.
We’re told they’ll help us use less oil.
But most of what politicians, activists, and electric car sellers say about electric cars is just wrong.
In this video, and a second one coming soon, I show you 5 inconvenient facts about electric cars.

[@sschuyler1]

California: "We are going all-in on electric cars!" Also California (24 hours later): "Don't plug in your electric car, because we don't have the energy supply to charge them"

[@jonellwanger7258]

ZAND PEOPLE STILL CANT SEE!! lmao, Talk about taking control, no gas cars, but you can only charge your car when the government says it’s ok

[@GuerrillaSM]

Shocker

[@naidoo307]

Grab some solar panels 😂

[@theq68]

There is a difference between "don't plug your car" and "don't You all plug at the same exact time".

[@markkulyas2418]

I realize when people belong to a cult they keep voting for that cult, because they can't think for themselves.

[@samomiotek7210]

Nothing is greener than taking good care of the car you already own and driving it until the wheels fall of.

[@jsmariani4180]

Here is ID, the locals drive their huge gas guzzling polluting vehicles until they are at least 3 times as old as their drivers. Nothing green about them.

[@super8mate]

@Sam O: Wrong

[@rickcholmes1768]

@@super8mate no, he’s right, other than a sm percentage of wind and solar generated electricity, where do you thing electricity comes from? Hoover dam ? Coal and gas burning generators . Gas is here to stay, this is just a greener trend

[@leviluikart977]

@@jsmariani4180 but still greener then electric cars

[@rickcholmes1768]

@@jsmariani4180 you shouldn’t of moved to Idaho if you don’t like how the locals are, I imagine you’re trying to bring your politics to their town . Nothing worse than outsiders moving to get away from their situation and trying to change it to where they came from. Or maybe it’s your second home in the Idaho mountains, yeah that’s so green of you.

[@ohiosbestpeach770]

I get so tired of politicians being stupid.

[@ChannelNews1]

I interviewed a top energy expert on my home page vid a must watch. He warns that EV conversion will not happen and oil can never be replaced.

[@ohiosbestpeach770]

@@ChannelNews1 It does he make any sense that it would work. Have a great day 😊

[@jpt1205]

It kills me that so many "Green Activists" will say--"Follow the Science!" but don't ever actually "Follow the Science!"...thank you Stossel for asking all the right questions!

[@aussiert]

That's because they can't read or have developed brains due to the lack of meat eating.

[@RJDA.Dakota]

I didn’t even have to make a comment- this video and others like it, speaks volumes. Not to mention the manufacturing process of the vehicle itself.

[@stevewilson4321]

What “ right question “ that’s the thing about neocons when they can’t speak to the issue then they always attack the opposing side presentor because its all they have

[@GS-zc4sk]

Green Ragers should follow the money and political motives.

[@johnnorvaisas]

They follow the money not the science

[@jgesselberty]

The day that all these elites ride bicycles to work and take commercial transportation instead of private jets, yachts, and limousines, is the day I will believe them.

[@ROGER2095]

I wouldn't base MY beliefs on what they do. What they DO is indicative of what THEY believe. And since they burn fossil fuels for their own convenience, it's clear they don't believe a word of the global warming crap they claim is real. They just say they do to exert power over you.

[@johnalthor]

Agree

[@oldcrook510]

@Bill Flyer He's talking about all the WEF billionaires behind the scam...not some old career corrupt moron politician like Biden.

[@mnewln1800]

@Bill Flyer "When I was an engineer for the hispanic railroad I used to speak with the breakfast tacos as they cleaned the train." -Joe Biden

[@SMILEYRLR]

They did a study and found that driving an economy car some distance was less polluting than you would be riding a bike the same distance.

[@brandonporter550]

Electric cars being “green” gives me “we don’t need farms because I get my groceries from the store” vibes.

[@AkioWasRight]

It's called "NIMBYism", and it's the issue of point and nonpoint pollution sources, something beyond all the "green" crowd. These people pat themselves on the back for buying a $130,000, 5,400lb Tesla , but they haven't the slightest clue where the electricity used to charge their Tesla comes from, or what was released into the air and dumped into the ocean when all the materials used to produce it was sent around the world.

[@wrongthinker843]

That is exactly correct.

[@HorHeyAK1]

Ha! Love this!

[@stevemiller4292]

Perfectly said.

[@Neojhun]

"vibes" Wow that is sad how you rationalize your arguments. Technical Reality dose not work like that. It is not subjective and opinion based. Wrong is wrong. Nothing you said was relevant or had any functionality.

[@haroldkendra7283]

You are a legend, Mr Stossel! Millions of people who know your name pay attention to your research and fact-based research. Out here in So Calif after the tropical storm dropped a lot of rain, I think millions of future car buyers will have second thoughts and abandon the idea of electric cars. The hazardous risks of fire, toxic waste, and true danger to drivers themselves who drive the cars and who encountered and survived semi-submerged driving conditions in the cities and freeways may soon have no choice in accepting a true reality check when their vehicles begin to break down. What an environmental mess this new technology has produced. LiKind of like the past when the 747 jets were produced only there were very few runways that existed to allow those jets to land.

[@brianworkman9954]

Good points. You really pay attention. I like your comments.

[@Trashed20659]

More ICE cars catch fire than EVs, because they are carrying a tank full of explosive gas! EV batteries are still evolving, and some newer types CANNOT catch fire, unlike gasoline and diesel. Every car makes toxic waste from its tailpipe, not to mention all the improperly disposed of engine oil and radiator and other fluids. Electric cars have fewer parts to break, and are therefore inherently more reliable than complex metal boxes containing thousands of explosions a minute. They have no gear box in their transmission because electric motors have great torque on the low end and great speed on the high end. Diesel locomotives have used electric motors for decades. The diesel engine drives a generator to supply power to four motors at the base of the engine. All we are talking about is using similar tech in cars, just removing the generator and using batteries. Batteries which may eventually out-live the cars and be usable more than once. Stossel's assessment lacks any forward thinkinig. He has chosen a spot in time that is rapidly becoming irrelevant!

[@stevewilson4321]

@@brianworkman9954 U like his pts because you know even less than he does... Ignorance and BS isnt going to stop whats coming

[@Cryaboutmyhandle]

@@Trashed20659 Firefighters said they can usually extinguish a fully engulfed regular car fire with about 500 gallons of water - but it took fire crews about 12,000 gallons of water to put out this Tesla after it caught fire on a Pennsylvania highway. Litersly false.

[@Cryaboutmyhandle]

@@Trashed20659 all energy-producing machinery must be fabricated from materials extracted from the earth. No energy system, in short, is actually “renewable,” since all machines require the continual mining and processing of millions of tons of primary materials and the disposal of hardware that inevitably wears out. Compared with hydrocarbons, green machines entail, on average, a 10-fold increase in the quantities of materials extracted and processed to produce the same amount of energy. For a snapshot of what all this points to regarding the total materials footprint of the green energy path, consider the supply chain for an electric car battery. A single battery providing a useful driving range weighs about 1,000 pounds. Providing the refined minerals needed to fabricate a single EV battery requires the mining, moving, and processing of more than 500,000 pounds of materials somewhere on the planet . That’s 20 times more than the 25,000 pounds of petroleum that an internal combustion engine uses over the life of a car. Among the material realities of green energy: Building wind turbines and solar panels to generate electricity, as well as batteries to fuel electric vehicles, requires, on average, more than 10 times the quantity of materials, compared with building machines using hydrocarbons to deliver the same amount of energy to society. A single electric car contains more cobalt than 1,000 smartphone batteries; the blades on a single wind turbine have more plastic than 5 million smartphones; and a solar array that can power one data center uses more glass than 50 million phones. Replacing hydrocarbons with green machines under current plans-never mind aspirations for far greater expansion-will vastly increase the mining of various critical minerals around the world. For example, a single electric car battery weighing 1,000 pounds requires extracting and processing some 500,000 pounds of materials. Averaged over a battery’s life, each mile of driving an electric car “consumes” five pounds of earth. Using an internal combustion engine consumes about 0.2 pounds of liquids per mile. Oil, natural gas, and coal are needed to produce the concrete, steel, plastics, and purified minerals used to build green machines. The energy equivalent of 100 barrels of oil is used in the processes to fabricate a single battery that can store the equivalent of one barrel of oil. By 2050, with current plans, the quantity of worn-out solar panels-much of it nonrecyclable-will constitute double the tonnage of all today’s global plastic waste, along with over 3 million tons per year of unrecyclable plastics from worn-out wind turbine blades. By 2030, more than 10 million tons per year of batteries will become garbage. The extraction process of lithium is very resource demanding and specifically uses a lot of water in the extraction process. It is estimated that 500,000 gallons of water is used to mine one metric ton of lithium. With the world's leading country in production of lithium being Chile, the lithium mines are in rural areas with an extremely diverse ecosystem. In Chile’s Salar de Atacama, one of the driest places on earth, about 65% of the water is used to mine lithium; leaving many of the local farmers and members of the community to find water elsewhere. Along with physical implications on the environment, working conditions can violate the standards of sustainable development goals. Additionally, it is common for locals to be in conflict with the surrounding lithium mines. There have been many accounts of dead animals and ruined farms in the surrounding areas of many of these mines. In Tagong, a small town in Garzê Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture China, there are records of dead fish and large animals floating down some of the rivers near the Tibetan mines. After further investigation, researchers found that this may have been caused by leakage of evaporation pools that sit for months and sometimes even years. Lithium-ion batteries contain metals such as cobalt, nickel, and manganese, which are toxic and can contaminate water supplies and ecosystems if they leach out of landfills. Additionally, fires in landfills or battery-recycling facilities have been attributed to inappropriate disposal of lithium-ion batteries. As a result, some jurisdictions require lithium-ion batteries to be recycled. In spite of the environmental cost of improper disposal of lithium-ion batteries, the rate of recycling is still relatively low, as recycling processes remain costly and immature. More than 400 million batteries are used throughout the country, with only 5% being recycled, resulting in 8000 tonnes ending up in landfill. Creating the lithium-ion battery pack is also more environmentally harmful than the manufacturing process for an average petrol-powered car.

[@Garrison64]

We’re no more ready to go all electric than we are to start letting cars drive themselves. People get all caught up in the idea of these things but ideas and realities are different things.

[@jamesdaniel947]

We have no choice, We have to stop burning all this fossil fuel! Not only is it catastrophic to the environment, it’s expensive!

[@davebloggs]

most of the electric car fad has more to do with tax evasion than anything else, just follow the money trail.

[@marviwilson1853]

Depends where you live. In Norway last year, less than 10% of new car sales were IC engines

[@davebloggs]

@@marviwilson1853 That is good to see and im not against electric cars i just dont believe the current lithium battery design of power is the right way to go. there are better options out there, but currently to much money is being made from lithium.

[@michaelarturo6864]

I have a Tesla and it drives itself?

[@hugh007]

Isn't it strange that the greenies think electricity generated for your air conditioning is evil, but the same electricity used to charge electric cars is just fine.

[@the_expidition427]

The dissonance is suprising

[@bigblockman11]

And all the more fun to watch it came crashing down on them

[@mustang607]

Doublethink: All air conditioning is evil. But the air conditioning inside your electric vehicle is good.

[@redpillsatori3020]

For them it's a religion. It doesn't need to make sense

[@BOBANDVEG]

The electric fairies have clean magic only outside

[@OlTrailDog]

The fact that a government administrator can mandate such policies, like EVs, via an "executive order" is what is truly dangerous.

[@DtomDOJ]

That's why if we the people don't do something now it's only going to get worse. I remember growing up the government used to hide it from us but now they're just sticking their thumbs on their noses and telling us "what are you going to do about it"? Sounds like a challenge accepted to me I'm sure I'm not alone.

[@leshigger6517]

the government cannot mandate EV's.. they can only offer tax credits just like they do for all energy compaines.

[@bill7125]

Yet, that is just what the American voter keeps voting for

[@jamesnoord6295]

They really can't but the problem is separation of powers is broken!

[@johnalthor]

The greatest threat to our freedom (besides Biden) is the climate and EV scam being used as means to exert greater control.

[@wizardoz905]

It’s all BS … it’s all about stopping the poor man’s freedoms

[@allanzylbert1306]

It is amazing how politicians act as if none of this happens

[@ChannelNews1]

I interviewed a top energy expert on my home page vid. He warns EV conversion will not happen and oil can never be replaced.

[@stephenseth-yr7kz]

And the media…

[@ChannelNews1]

@@stephenseth-yr7kz how does that coincide with my home page vid?

[@HobbiesRfun]

I bet most greenhouse gasses come from the mouths, and butts of the politicians forcing us to go green. I wonder how much greenhouse gas Joe Biden emits every time he farts, which is a lot.

[@hannibalharkonnen7612]

All they care about is their campaign.

[@diltzm]

I work in the electrical utility industry and the biggest thing people don't realize is that we do not have the infrastructure to support this many electric vehicles. You can build substations all you want but if you don't have the power generation capacity to support the demand we're going to have even more brownouts and blackouts.

[@livingunderarockunderarock9963]

I’m a Illinois based electrician Most of the grid we get power from is designed to feed houses with 60amp services. Even if everyone got a 200amp service upgrade and an electric car charger, the grid Is still massively undersized.

[@acquitz2208]

@@livingunderarockunderarock9963 I’m sure that when the gas car came out there wasn’t much infrastructure for gas but hey over time there was.

[@livingunderarockunderarock9963]

@@acquitz2208 absolutely Maybe we can mine all of the extra resources we’re going to need from space!!

[@AkioWasRight]

@@acquitz2208 ICE cars do not need the same infrastructure to support them. One gas station can be refueled by one truck, which can fuel hundreds of cars in a single day, which allows those cars enough fuel to last a week. At the same time, one 220 home charged can only support one car, which will last that car maybe a couple two three days before needing a recharge. Your box cannot support more than one car, and the larger grid cannot support every home charger, so that all has to be upgraded. Then there's whole issue of people who do not have access to private parking. To charge one EV at a public level 3 charger could take an hour. Imagine the wait times, and imagine time as real-estate and the rate at which gas cars are refueled. If a gas car can be refueled in 4 minutes, then you'd need 15 times as many public chargers to turn EVs at the same rate. Otherwise, you'd have long, long waiting lines, because the chargers are too slow.

[@independentfool]

Think downstream too. Powerlines will need to be replaced with larger ones. Transformers will need to be replaced for larger ones. Service wires to the house will need to be upgraded. In my utility this represents DECADES of work.

[@greekifreekifan870]

Electric vehicles are a status symbol for the rich and powerful to show how much more moral they are compared to the proles.

[@williemherbert1456]

And that's why this show how public transportation is the best solution to tackles climate change and threat of resource shortage.

[@forestcityfishing4749]

Or choose an ebike...they dont cost much. Keep your car too. Just dont use the car all the time...

[@TheTEXMIKE]

thats one why of looking at it. it tells me all i need to know about them.

[@kingwr12]

@@forestcityfishing4749 Maybe you need a gasoline powered bike, instead?

[@davidbarlow350]

@@williemherbert1456 There is no climate change,and certainly not an emergency. It's a scam and the same idiots who fell for the "covid" and Ukraine ones are the ones falling for the current "thing" yet again.

[@joerobertson7887]

"Willful ignorance of the truth" is the definition of a politician.

[@petrciperny]

No.

[@tigerphid9677]

If you grew up in the 1960s, you remember that most houses had oil burners for heat. Then came electric heat, where toaster-like coils replaced hot water pipes in every room. I remember that electric heat fell out of favor almost instantly once the astronomical cost was exposed. The drivers of electric cars don't feel the cost pinch because electric cars are heavily subsidized by taxpayers.

[@deanpruit4216]

You do realize that oil burners still suck right? In fact how much do they (electric baseboards) cost to install and maintain? I mean every heating system has it's strength's and drawbacks. It's like baseboards only go in the hundreds of dollars and new furnace you can just assume is at least 10k. Gas forced air isn't so bad but oil sucks. Plus it's really fair to say it's not a one size fits all for every dwelling. I mean do you really want a 10k furnace for a smaller home or say 1br apt?

[@marktwain2053]

​​@@deanpruit4216 Where do you think that overpriced electricity is coming from? Wind farms and solar cells? LOL Most of it is from coal powered plants. Sure, electric heat sounds great until you get "The Rest of the Story". You can buy smaller systems for those houses and apartments, and those electric baseboard heaters are not very efficient (per the Department of Energy). Their only upside is they are comparatively inexpensive, and can be used for zoned heating (but so can the others if properly set up), but their upside can quickly become a downside if your house isn't well insulated.

[@waltzsofa1602]

My first house had electric heat. Keeping it warm in winter was really expensive.

[@workingguy84]

We had and have gas heat

[@user-uk8tl3xy9e]

If you have solar panels the electricity for local driving basically is free.

[@edpontiff8448]

My neighbor also thought his 100 thousand dollar EV was just perfect until hurricane IDA knocked the power out for 3 months with no way to charge it . The batteries went flat and were ruined and cost an extreme amount to replace ! Now he sings a different song because they weren’t covered under warranty , imagine that ! My 2 gas guzzlers got along just fine as well as my gas powered generators ! He even had the nerve to ask if he could barrow gas for his generator because he was too damn lazy to drag his butt out at 400 am to wait in the long lines to get gas like the rest of us !

[@dr.elvis.h.christ]

I'd hate to be the guy in an EV that ran out of juice on a remote highway. With an EV, you can't just walk to the nearest station and back with a can.

[@spacebound1969]

This is a lie. I guarantee you 3 months of no charging wouldn't kill an EV. It MIGHT cause a bit of degradation, but never kill it. Especially if it's a stable lithium iron phosphate chemistry. Get back on your meds grandpa.

[@wm2008]

@@dr.elvis.h.christ Sure can, buy a generator at homedepot

[@edpontiff8448]

@@spacebound1969 No lie , the vehicle was 2 years old and he ran the car until it was almost fully discharged and then it sat for 2 months flat and the dealer told him that the core was damaged and needed to be replaced or low voltage would damage the car further , he told me this himself so is he lying along with his dealership ? I might be a proud grandpa who loves his wife , children and grandchildren but no lier , oh and by the way I don’t need or take meds and perfectly healthy thank you !

[@wilc4036]

Just to play devils advocate, there were some people with EVs in Ukraine that were able to get around because the power grid was still up but gas stations were not being refueled. 🤷

[@moneymikz]

Volvo did a study that found an EV has to travel 90K miles to offset the pollution from manufacturing the battery, and by then it’s due for a new battery 😂

[@dr.elvis.h.christ]

Don't forget the cost as well. Electric and hybrid vehicles are still much more expensive than their gasoline-only counterparts. ROI can easily be 7-8 years so they don't make much sense from a financial standpoint either. I have nothing against electric cars per se, but don't force them on us.

[@holycrapchris]

Tesla warranties it's batteries for 150k miles. Companies use mean time to failure when designing warranty periods, so chances are the battery will last longer than that.

[@dk-bw4gk]

@@holycrapchris Model S/X: 8 years or 150,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period. Model 3 Rear-Wheel Drive: 8 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period. Model 3/Y: 8 years or 120,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.

[@1pcfred]

@@valcaron Volvo is Latin for, I roll".

[@AkioWasRight]

@@holycrapchris That is a battery retention warranty, which only guarantees 70% retention. That means if your Tesla goes from 272 miles of theoretical range at full charge to 190.5 miles at any time in the warranty period, even if its a day after you bought it, Tesla won't help you.

[@shinvergil]

Banning combustion engines should be punished by common law. Criminals!

[@kingofnothing1433]

Generally A good rule is the more people talk about how great something is, the worse it will turn out to be. 🤔

[@ChannelNews1]

I interviewed a top energy expert on my HOME PAGE VIDEO. He warns EV conversion will not happen and oil can never be replaced.

[@zg-it]

Looking forward to gas prices going down, not looking forward to electric prices going up. Supply and demand is such a cruel mistress.

[@janehrahan5116]

If we embraced wide scale nuclearization it could be both, 3 guesses which party opposes nuclear at every turn.

[@ChannelZeroOne]

@@janehrahan5116 I only need one guess.

[@CharlesLumia]

@@janehrahan5116 these people pushing for electric cars but hate nuclear power are nuts. What the heck are we going to use for energy?

[@chuckysmaria6466]

Charles lumia Magic. Just like many of those eco protesters wanting to close farms.

[@ramjamflimflam]

This lie is designed to increase oil prices and the cost of energy uniformly so we have to rely on the government to subsidize the cost of energy which ensures it’s sustainability.

[@DurzoBlunts]

The amount of infrastructure needed to support them is mind boggling. Copper usage ? Will probably go through the roof.

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100% renewables will increase copper demand 10x and legislation has made opening new mines in any western country almost impossible and copper is just one material for which demand will skyrocket, all of which will increase pollution dramatically.

[@youmertz]

Yes, imagine needing to have an electric grid... This is actually the dumbest argument against electric cars. The electric infrastructure is already so vast. Anywhere there's an electrical outlet, there's a charging station. You're probably sitting in a room with half a dozen right now.

[@dootdoot1867]

Copper is a bi product of mining gold. Gold will be hunted till the last drop. Gold is made from dying stars.... not like diamonds which is just compressed carbon. Silver is actually the crazy one for rarity vs need. Then we get to platinum and palladium.

[@chuckysmaria6466]

Youmertz Because the current electrical grid is not enough to even supply the CURRENT EVs sold. Imagine if people actually buy them on mass. Upgrading power grids is not like playing sim city where you magically replace or add new facilities.

[@PsychoTruthTeller]

@@youmertz the electric grid is outdated and cannot handle the capacity of usage today. Add millions of electric cars and trucks and the electric grid crashes. Just look at what happens on very hot days in the summer when people are using air conditioning. You get blackouts because the grid can't handle it. Electric vehicles make the situation worse.

[@adamo1435]

I own a petrol car, and diesel car, and I lease an electric car. When I leased it, charging on the high street was much cheaper than fuelling, however now charging costs 80p per kWh (1.02 usd) , which makes my AMG mercedes cheaper to run. And don’t forget the electric cars are much more expensive to buy too…

[@digysdosdiy9113]

California has something called a "flex alert". This occurs on hut summer days and hot temperatures where they ask us to stop using major appliances between 3 an 9 PM. So WTF are we supposed to do when we get home from work and cannot charge the car to go out. Wait, what if I am in an apartment building with 500 apartments? Who is going to foot the bill to install all the chargers? Can you imagine what that will do to rents? I have a 60 year old house and I know it will be over $10,000 to upgrade the electrical to support a charger. Who is going to pay for that? And . . . what are we going to due with all those worn out batteries in about 10 years?

[@HarmonRAB-hp4nk]

ps ev's get 4 miles per kilowatt, thats more then a dollar to take it 10 miles.... gas would make it almost 80 miles for that much..... so no they arent cost affective to anyone but the seller Its a scam....

[@kng128]

​@@HarmonRAB-hp4nkyour math doesn't add up. Where can you purchase gasoline so cheaply to drive 80 miles per dollar? I pay 7kwh/$ at home and therefore 28 miles per dollar on my plug in hybrid.

[@markmiller8903]

They cant be recycled because of high labor involved.

[@tinaleanne8230]

@@kng128 Yes, the math is wrong but *Scam Alert:* Energy to charge as well as the chargers to charge EV's is subsidized buy the greenies in the government. The cost is exponitialy higher that anyone realizes.

[@tinaleanne8230]

@@HarmonRAB-hp4nk Gasoline: $5 per gallon. I get 20 miles to the gallon. $1 of gas is 1/5 of the gallon. 1/5*20 = 4 miles per dollar. For the more efficient newer cars maybe 40 miles to the gallon. 1/5*40 = 8 miles to the dollar. Best if you go back to school and learn a bit of math. BTW, it is still a scam because they do not include in the calculation that the battery will need to be replaced in about 10 years and estimates are between $15k and $25k. In addition: EV chargers and charging is subsidized by the feds and some states to hide the real cost.

[@thepinkranter279]

What never ceases to amaze me is how can anybody still believe politicians and governments are sincerely concerned about the "environment". Whatever the politicians say you should do is never for the reasons they tell you.

[@OOICU812]

What about gun bans and confiscation?

[@JoeBoozer]

imagine the pollution in ukraine but they dont care cuz its all a lie.

[@JoeBoozer]

@@OOICU812 exactly they lie about guns to. like calling an AR an automatic rifle.

[@stanpski5442]

Are you under estimating stupidity of general population?

[@lynnhooley7608]

Sorry after the all the lies, and crying wolf, The government has lost all credibility with me.

[@CarimboHanky]

biggest joke was california announcing the banning of gas cars a few days later announcing a "power flex alert" because they didnt have enough power 😂

[@CarimboHanky]

@A M mmm yes, recently they signed a ban on gas vehicles, they wont allow sales by 2030, that sounds like far away but it just 7 years from now. they want to push electric vehicles while the grid still cant handle everyday usage. dont get what you mean by hit and run, im not a hack so yeah i reply back. ✌️

[@SocialistDistancing]

Their agenda will fail.

[@Neojhun]

Hmm a giant battery on wheels electric supply. I wonder how they could help save the grid during high demand. You fail at electric engineering.

[@-FreeAlberta-]

So does this mean Gavin is going to stand guard at the California borders and make sure no illegal gas powered vehicles enter the state in 2030?

[@paulevans7560]

Biggest joke is yiu not realising evs will help the grid. Also not realising just how much electricity is needed to get oil out the ground in the US pumps only each month. Just that tiny little saving is enough to power 25million evs.

[@richdemanowski2575]

They also don't tell you that electricity from solar and wind power destroys millions of acres of land that could be used to grow food, or act as habitats for threatened and endangered species. Or that those wind turbines kill millions of birds every year ... and require tons of oil-based lubricants, which often leak profusely and contaminate ground water ... or that the turbine will need to be dumped in a landfill and replaced before it can produce enough electricity to cover the cost of installing it ...

[@strategicperson95]

The "Green Movement" is the epitome of the phrase: "Amatuers discuss tactics, Professionals study logistics."

[@ChannelNews1]

I interviewed a top energy expert on my HOME PAGE VIDEO. He warns EV conversion will not happen and oil can never be replaced.

[@dann952]

I love my EV. I'm not under any misconception of where the battery and electricity comes from. I do not believe they should be mandated or banned, just a choice people can make.

[@gregoryanderson6550]

How are you paying for the use of the highway system?

[@freedomlineman3105]

I don’t own an EV.. but agree with you completely. As competition grows in the sale of EV’s, the prices should hopefully get lower.

[@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem]

charge ur car useing solar or wind thats all u need and steel tires

[@jra7690]

@@gregoryanderson6550 Does the money for road repairs ONLY come from gas/fuel for internal combustion engines?

[@Xckel13]

@@gregoryanderson6550 Why do you care? It's not up to him to figure that out.

[@ren2871]

Would love a series on oil. The vast majority of people don't know what oil is used for and there's misconception we are running out of it. My girlfriend's roommate was this big climate change activist in Germany. She would go to these "end fossil fuel" rallies. She gave me $hit for having a Nespresso machine and the fact they use aluminum pods. Anyways in the last 2 years, she has bought herself a new MacBook, new iphone, new iPad, a Roomba vacuum, new Doc Martens, an 800$ Jura coffee machine, an Air up bottle and a very expensive North Face winter jacket. Also she's been travelling through out Europe living her best life because her parents have money. These people need some education because their hypocrisy is vomit inducing.

[@clpza7463]

Like the eco-terrorists who spray paint everything in the name of climate change even though their spray paint contains aerosol and oil among so many other non environmentally friendly ingredients, lmao.

[@stevencooper4422]

Exactly, the plastics we use on EVERYTHING depend on access to oil

[@nickbono8]

Basically every plastic item you own and use is made of oil based products. Oil drilling isn’t going away anytime soon whatsoever.

[@ren2871]

@@nickbono8 they were forecasting for a long time in Canada that the Tar Sands would run out of crude bitumen by 2065. Just recently they found even more and now there's at least enough bitumen for another 300 years. Just imagine if they actually allowed more drilling in Canada. We would never run out of oil.

[@spacebound1969]

Will it also cover the billions in subsidies it recieves?

[@francomtz7115]

I still can't comprehend how are they going to have just simple tires without petro

[@petrciperny]

Petrochemical industry will be needed for a long time, but what is not needed is to burn fossil fuels. Especially not in cars.

[@robertkubrick3738]

@@petrciperny Every BEV costs 1,500 gallons of fuel More than an equal ICE vehicle before it ever goes a kilometer.

[@jonarauzo]

You will end up paying a fortune for electricity. The energy bill for my house was over $600! It was much lower well before electric cars came onto the road.

[@jonarauzo]

These so-called politicians and activists want us to be poor I guess.

[@ericwelsh4853]

Unfortunately, this is one of those situations where people have so much invested emotionally and financially that they'll never admit they're wrong.

[@justsomeguy934]

You are so right, but right about gasoline.

[@ghz24]

@@justsomeguy934 Nope just about human psychology it's on both sides of this issue. I've seen people convince that liquid fuels will be a thing of the past very soon, until you point out there are no electric jet engines.

[@scottmantooth8785]

*exactly...they will cling to their delusions of of a totally green utopia and call you a racist for not thinking the same way*

[@justsomeguy934]

@@ghz24 there are no space ships with wings, either; does that prove airplanes are useless?

[@ghz24]

@@justsomeguy934 What does that have to do with liquid fuels? The space shuttle had wings so that's a double wtf. I don't dislike electric cars or think them useless I just don't think it's feasable for everyone everywhere. How energy efficient is this car if you don't own a garage and live in Minnesota? The house is insulated and efficient but having to heat the battery as well as charge it when the temperature drops to 10 or 15 below zero Fahrenheit and the wind is blowing. How much electricity is needed to just keep the battery warm in case you need to use it? How much range will it have in the freezing rain heating the cabin and keeping the windshield clear of ice? How much of the battery is used while it's parked at work for 8 or 10 hours draining the battery to keep the battery warm? Used car market? The many people that can't afford new cars? I just see lots of issues that seem to be ignored by the ban internal combustion engine/ electrify everything crowd.

[@ronb8052]

My Saturn gets 35 mpg on the freeway and almost 30 mpg in town. I never worry about charging it and there's a gas station on every corner. If I decide to drive across the country, I never worry about finding fuel. My insurance costs me $35 per month and if someone steals my car, I can buy a another used one for $2500. I saw a new Lucid yesterday (a beautiful electric car). I googled it: $87,000.....I can buy another THIRTY-FIVE Saturns with that! lol...lol

[@IIllIIllIIllIIll]

Those Saturns will be hard to come by someday. Lucid on the other hand..... well, nevermind... they will always be expensive.

[@TheReapersSon]

I've owned newer cars; I've also owned few older cars from the 80's and early 90's. The best car I ever owned was a 92 Ford Escort hatchback. I almost hit 40 MPG on a road trip to California. I think my best was just a hair over 38 MPG, and I was averaging 70-80 MPH the entire time, except a small segment where I had to drive through Portland in the mid-day on my way back. My average still never dropped below 30 MPG. It helped that the car was very light, so even though it was only around 100 HP it was able to scoot along just fine under its own power. It was also a 5-speed manual. What I'm saying is, I agree with your point. The ultimate delusional irony of this entire farcical initiative is that it involves the same crowd who screeches about how climate change is destroying poor people the hardest, but who also have this Marie Antoinette-caliber attitude... "oh, just let them eat cake". "Just have them buy an EV", they say, as though lower and mid-tier income brackets can afford an EV, and also have equitable access to charging infrastructure. For instance, If you live in an apartment complex, you're likely not going to have any charging stations available, and you're certainly not going to be able to install one in your parking space or even your unit. Most of these people will have to forego owning a vehicle in the fut--- *GASP* Oh wait, that is a design feature of this whole scheme. These climate utopians are a danger to humanity and must be stopped.

[@MrMcgooOG]

@@TheReapersSon my God it's a YT comment section not war and peace

[@Bristecom]

It has been proven that the best way to be sustainable is to get/use products that last as long as possible. Electric cars are not only significantly more expensive and require more resources/materials to produce and maintain, but they will never last as long as gas/diesel vehicles! So once again, it sounds like this is all just another corporate/political scam the masses are falling for!

[@anonthehousemouse]

My EcoSport gets about 30MPG.

[@danielc3003]

Sufficient ignorance can make anything seem possible or practical. The only thing green is the money being made by this nonsense.

[@ChannelNews1]

I interviewed a top energy expert on my home page vid. This expert warns that EV conversion will not happen and oil can never be replaced.

[@COSMACELF1802]

The worse part of Electric Cars, they will bring the prices of batteries up so high, cell phones and laptops will cost 10 times more.

[@jiujitsustudent604]

This is the problem with so many of the issues we face. Emotions rule the day, and clear thinking is seen as some sort of moral transgression. Facts are hate speech, and truth is subjective (MY truth is that I feel…) Unless/Until we return to sanity, this trend will only intensify.

[@justsomeguy934]

too bad no objective research was done, but the oil industry appreciates your patronage.

[@AkioWasRight]

It's not just limited to our intellect. As a species, we are generally sliding backwards, because too many have it too easy. It doesn't matter how big of a mindless, unfit, dysfunction blob you are, you are given the same rights as everyone else. This has resulted in Idiocracy in our generation.

[@happymolecule8894]

@@AkioWasRight I've noticed. You Westerners act very weird online. So many delusions in this generation, yesterday I saw a video of a coffee maker crying because she has to work 8 hours a day. In my country you work 12 hours a day or you starve.

[@sethroberts634]

@@justsomeguy934 🤡

[@andrew_owens7680]

Let's replace emotions with profit motive and a policy of trickly down FU.

[@kenthawley5990]

I've been saying this for years now. It's amazing how people don't understand manufacturing and the oil needed for pretty much every aspect of it. They want to believe, so they do--regardless of the inconvenient facts.

[@justineld4905]

"They want to believe, so they do" Woke-leftism really is a new sort of religion, isn't it? Me? I'll stick to Jesus. Little more truth and honesty over there.

[@markd4948]

Was about to reply exactly the same thing but you took the words right out of my mouth.

[@theq68]

The thing is mining trucks are already being swapped for electric ones, why? Are miner's stupid? No, it is much cheaper to operate, industry doesn't care about pollution, they care about money and electric is the future because it lasts longer and is cheaper. Now all the inconvenient truth he said are already dismissed as wrong. Electric take 100k miles to become better if after that you grab the car an dump it in the garbage and are powering it with 100% coal electricity and don't count maintenance of ice cars. if you recycle the battery that people will pay you for the ability to do sow and power it from solar the cheapest way to charge it. It breaks even after 50k miles or less.

[@jaggedskar3890]

It's the same lack of thinking from people who believe farms pollute so they should be curtailed, since we get food from grocery stores anyway.

[@Segaton]

The man hasn't aged a bit since.

[@TJ-qz6hr]

What do electric and gas cars have in common? They’re both powered by fossil fuels.

[@ChannelNews1]

I'm a car mechanic with 30 years experience and explain on my HOME PAGE VIDEO why EV conversion would be impossible. This is all politics.

[@barrya.6212]

POLITICIANS? ....YOU MEAN DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS....

[@wrenchinator9715]

The green movement hasn't actually reduced pollution. They've just pushed some of it out of sight and out of mind.

[@dr.elvis.h.christ]

... into someone else's yard.

[@CuriousKL]

Is there any way possible for people to stop calling CO2 a pollutant? It is not.

[@AkioWasRight]

That's called "NIMBYism".

[@Born_Stellar]

actually from what I've read they made it worse. example: there is at least one power station in calif. that would actually be more efficient if they just burned the diesel in a generator to make power than using the diesel to keep the generator hot so that when the sun comes out the solar mirrors can actually make power instead of warming up for 5 hours. also, electric cars are worse than gas cars to 100,000 mlles? ok, how many are at or going to pass 100,000miles?

[@lefthandedleprechaun8702]

This man has been a national treasure for truth for many years now .... Thank you Mr Stossel

[@justsomeguy934]

His oil-industry advertisers are incredibly happy that he didn't do any unbiased research on the topic.

[@stevep927]

@@justsomeguy934 Have any proof of your statement ?

[@trashyraccoon2615]

Lol, more like this guy is in the pocket of the oil companies, clearly

[@rogerthomas169]

​@@justsomeguy934 what part of his report do you refute?

[@rogerthomas169]

​@@trashyraccoon2615 he just has common sense...that's what's throwing you off

[@davidweinert2041]

Inconvenient Fact is a nice counter to inconvenient truth. Facts over feelings. Environmental movement is basically a religion by now with believers putting their faith in EVs and blind to the damage done making them and charging them.

[@skywongsuwan365]

Protesting with a green safety hat made from oil. Makes sense.

[@yeetproductionsbah3809]

“They just don’t want it near them” Truest statement ever 😢

[@maciej2c]

this, they dont care about nature (cutting ammazon forests etc) they only care about the air purity in the cities they live in

[@j01150126]

Same with nuclear power.

[@sonaleaguetv7747]

No one wants anything possibly unpleasant near them No one is saying put the homeless shelter in my back yard...Put the county dump next to my house...

[@infomanblog500]

steam engines forever 😿

[@boss42971]

It's environmental NIMBYism.

[@someoneelse.2252]

Decades of calling it like it is, Stossel is one of a kind.

[@Neojhun]

500,000lbs of mining for a 1,000lbs battery. Is a Blatant LIE.

[@kozicki4]

He's too smart to run for politics

[@ravenone6255]

Stossel need to run for Governor or maybe President to bring common sense back LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

[@justsomeguy934]

Stossel is wrong about this one, and the oil advertisers that buy media time for his organization wouldn't have it any other way. Follow the money.

[@justsomeguy934]

@A walrus the rock-to-raw-mineral ratio for lithium is dead center of the same ratios for other materials. It's no better or worse than lead, gold, bauxite, copper, magnesium. The clever propaganda part of the video is that they didn't tell you how much ore is required to make an 800-lb engine block or a 300-lb transmission. See how the oil industry works?

[@leowetzel2497]

60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck, and they are expected to buy a $75,000 car?

[@robertkubrick3738]

That depreciated by 50% in 2 years and you have to carry GAP Insurance so you aren't financially ruined.

[@annholland5176]

HI. Should show is how electric cars don't work. No power to charge them. Some states already are having blackouts.

[@neilschristensen9143]

The environmental impact is staggering. All that mining all that waste which digs 500 thousand pounds of material to make one battery.

[@Mrbfgray]

Verify that number? Mining is required for everything we do and batteries will be treated as high grade ore, endlessly recycled. No need for damned mandates, the market will kill off ICE based on simple economics, can't compete with 125MPGe and far simpler machinery. 1/4 the operating cost, BEVs will soon be the poor mans choice. I still love my old 3-pedal BMW V8, bit of a petrolhead, but it's delusional to think they will be built much longer.

[@nickbono8]

@@Mrbfgray well yeah, even if we weren’t changing to EVs for the environment, I believe we would eventually move to something more efficient than an ICE.

[@spacebound1969]

@@Mrbfgray He won't verify it cause he can't. Besides, considering a battery pack for a Tesla weighs 1k or 2k pounds, that's not a terrible material usage rate. You have to dig up more than you get for any metal

[@Mrbfgray]

@@nickbono8 VASTLY more efficient. This vid is as much propaganda as anthropocentric climate alarmism is. Countering emotional arguments of one side (climate alarmism) with equally unfounded arguments from another angle is just DUMB.

[@spacebound1969]

@@Mrbfgray Bingo. This is why I can't fucking stand conservatives just as much as I can't stand progressives. Each side is more than happy to fill you up with bullshit propaganda, you just get to choose which color of propoganda you get!

[@thewedge8823]

This kind of reminds me of the plastic bag problem that we have today... Back in the day, people were concerned with chopping down trees and using too many paper bags!! so one man said, hey how about we make these plastic bags, so we reduce our consumption of wood products... that didn't age well did it .. considering that top food grocers like whole foods only use paper bags haha

[@kgsails7102]

Here in Northern California we've gone back and forth from paper to plastic then recycled paper and now recycled plastic. "Bring your reusable bag or buy one of ours for $10". When I travel to Europe or the Caribbean, reusable bags are $1 or 1 Euro. It's quite a rip-off here in California.

[@MrWolfen]

History is repeating itself. Get rid of plastic to make more paper. Stop coal plants to make wood burning plants for energy. You know the climate was doing pretty good till the wood climate change was invented in 2010 before 2010 the world seemed just fine.

[@NoctilucentArts]

How Stossel-like of you to leave out the important part. Plastic bags were meant to be REUSED not disposed of. That's according to the actual guy who invented them in 1959, Sten Gustav Thulin. The petroleum industry, however, saw the new cash cow. And in Europe, they didn't use paper bags, plastic bags replaced cloth bags. Because again, like the oil industry - the timber industry was pushing something wasteful to make more money.

[@MrWolfen]

@@NoctilucentArts I re use my plastic bags every day when I shop. I'm not a sheep you can condition into climate change brainwashing. I have Brain and I'm a thinker.

[@bill1589]

@@NoctilucentArts the plastic bag barely complete the first use in one piece

[@Milosz_Ostrow]

The deadly, unquenchable electric car battery fire aboard the car carrier MV _Fremantle Highway_ in July 2023 should make us all think twice about proliferation of electric cars..

[@ChannelNews1]

I interviewed a top energy expert on my home page vid. He warns EV conversion will not happen and oil can never be replaced.

[@robertkubrick3738]

It wasn't the first car fire on the Freemantle, but before it was just ICE vehicles and they shut in the hold so no air could get to it and when the oxygen was exhausted, the fire went out. Lithium makes it's own oxygen. Many ships won't carry BEV now...their insurance won't let them.

[@wsugaimd]

When the government says, "you will do this...or else..." run!

[@Boyo1956]

I will walk before I buy an EV!

[@Boyo1956]

@Mike Brown Brainwashed people!

[@happyhardcore7189]

California: Banning internal combustion engine. Me : slaps jet engine on miata.

[@multiplemyelomaigm8542]

Sounds fun, but the combustion is still internal.

[@shanegreen9511]

Each 1000 lb battery costs more than 1000 barrels of oil to manufacture and operate. Carbon dioxide isn't a pollutant plants thrive on it

[@GodofWarChuka]

If the Corrupt Democrats buy me an Electric car, maybe I’ll drive it. But I’ll never buy one.

[@ChannelNews1]

Why do you way that?

[@Alipotamus]

My husband and I (Californian’s) are retired, quite old and far from rich. We could never afford the electric cars and even if we could like so many here own Teslas- I don’t want my govt. forcing us. I do believe most people are truly ignorant about climate, fossil fuels and what it takes to produce and use EVs. So glad you’re doing your best to educate. I’m 73 and I’m not stupid or ignorant about the issues that matter most.

[@redghost3170]

I’m sure the both of you voted a straight Democrat ticket.

[@danstrayer111]

forcing you to do......what?

[@danstrayer111]

@@donarmstrong2182 like get vaccinated? That kind of "forcing"?

[@danstrayer111]

@@donarmstrong2182 what rules?What are they voting for? What are you even talking about?

[@timesup4688]

Well you're as old as I am and I know you probably remember when videotapes were popular remember betamax the videotape betamax remember how long those were around they were just the flash in the pan and I believe the popularity for these electric vehicles will be the same, they will still be around but they won't be as popular as they are right now. Not practical

[@chadjones4255]

The scariest words ever spoken: "The government has a vision..."

[@Gunter_Severloh]

The other problem with EV's is our power grid cant support a growing electric consumption, you get alot of people charging their cars at the same time, you'll have to spend more money, more resources to upgrade the infrastructure that will support the volume. As more EV's are being used eventually so does the infrastructure have to be upgraded to support it, the demand from those nuclear, coal, and other sources of energy to create electricity will cost more, so if you think about it, to charge your ev the cost will rise based on the volume of people demanding it.

[@my3dviews]

California wants to ban internal combustion engines. Ignoring that some hydrogen vehicles use internal combustion engines with hydrogen as the fuel. Are those banned too? Or is there an exception?

[@huffdaddi]

I recently bought an IONIQ 5 made by Hyundai. It is the best vehicle I have ever owned! However, I fully understand that it is not a zero emission vehicle. I jokingly tell people who ask me about the car that it is a “multi-fuel” vehicle. It runs on battery electricity, gas, diesel, oil, natural gas, steam, water, coal and nuclear energy!

[@jeffbonvallet9480]

You are correct, Your EV is power agnostic. And each year the grid gets cleaner, which means so does your EV. An ICE car never gets cleaner.... Ever

[@AlineaEuros]

@@jeffbonvallet9480 except it doesnt get cleaner for an EV, in some cases it even gets dirtier especially when they need to use coal again over an energy crisis.

[@BillyBanter100]

Do you know how much C02 is produced building a EV over a similar ICE vehicle, look it up. You may also like to find out how Lithium is extracted and its many lethal properties . Ever found a local Lithium recycling centre.

[@kylehurlbrink]

We need to get that multi fuel / power agnostic mentality to the manufacturing and logistics sectors. That’s when benefits will be seen.

[@wattlebough]

@@BillyBanter100 Science advancement is ahead of every objection you can come up with, oh ye of little faith.

[@Fredman5551]

As a child, I remember watching Stossel cover public vs private. He made things so easy to understand, even if I couldn’t comprehend everything that was being said. As an adult, I rediscovered him and it’s the exact same. Clear, direct, simple. Only I know what he’s taking about now. Except for the beard.

[@Fredman5551]

That said, I love my Tesla. I don’t give 2 shits about the turtles. Car goes zoom

[@johnnydaggers7649]

I remember John getting the shit smacked out of him by Dr d David Shoultz

[@Fredman5551]

@@johnnydaggers7649 oh yeah, because Dr Ds ego got hurt because stossel (correctly) said he thought it was fake.

[@handgunnar45]

@@johnnydaggers7649 Yeah. Nothing triggers a phony like being challenged.

[@Fredman5551]

@@Lofi.z34 nope. The same way I dont care about co2, carbon and myriad of issues that come with oil. Throw batteries in a pool full of baby seals and the last species of whale. Idgaf, and ill do it myself just to spite people like you. Im supporting myself, and my enjoyment and convenience in life. And I dont need someone whos existence is so vapid they need to tell me im "supporting" somethinf 26 and half steps down a process to come to the conclusion that 'bad things happen and thats bad'. Id rather take a religious zealot berating me for my morality than people like you. Their ideology has more lore anyways, and is far more interesting.

[@markmiller8903]

I read the book "COBALT RED" about cobalt mining in the congo and its the most disturbing thing ive ever heard of.

[@ChannelNews1]

Why do you way that

[@63shakeandbake]

The big question is how is everybody supposed to plug their cars in, especially those living in apartment buildings? Also if everyone drives electric cars there is no way the grid could handle that much strain on the system. Its struggling now as it is in some areas such as California.

[@blessedwithchallenges9917]

My car is from 1986. I feel like I'm better for the environment than people who have bought 3-5 vehicles throughout the life of my one. And it's still running great!

[@paulholterhaus7084]

WHAT..??.........Has it been in storage..???.................Paul

[@blessedwithchallenges9917]

@@paulholterhaus7084 nope. Just take good care of it. Replace things that need replacing. Change the oil every 3k or so...

[@tigertoo01]

So where does the oil come from that you have to put in that engine every 3000miles ? Where does the gasoline come from to run the vehicle?

[@razzor4708]

@@tigertoo01 oil changes are not frequent, jenius. Not 3000 miles, but 50 000 miles - its 3 years... In older cars with bog worn its more frequent, but not much, it depends if you did abuse engine, or just driver it as it should. Toyota Hilux is still more reliable then any EV ever be. For 3 years, your average electric car will degrade into nothing... Stop lying,EV evangelist

[@tigertoo01]

@@razzor4708 I wish I was a jenius but I’m just a lowly genius. So my first ev i bought second hand and had it 7 years without any servicing required. 200,000kms. Traded it in on a new VW ID3. Extremely well built car. 1.5 years old and 50,000kms on the clock. I expect 300,000kms of trouble free driving with no servicing required. Even vw scheduled servicing is just bring it in every 2 years regardless of kms driven. Btw if you’re only changing oil in an ice every 50,000miles then you’re a weirdo liar who can’t spell.

[@SomeeGuyy]

It's not that most people don't know these things, it's that they don't WANT to know them. This is a huge difference.

[@gregoryellsmore2095]

It's not that "they don't know" about the child labor/electric origins.They don't want to know

[@kennethcheesbrough6855]

Going to electric cars has about as much chance as switching to flying cars.

[@ChannelNews1]

Why do you way that?

[@PatrickCurrie1]

Here in Australia there is a KZbinr by the name of John Cadogan and his channel is called the auto expert. He's a highly qualified mechanical engineer, an automotive journalist and from my experience watching his channel a very honest presenter. He crunched the numbers and in Australia the amount of pollution put out by cars is just 8% of the total. So we can see that even if EVs were totally carbon free, and as we just heard in this video that they're far from it, it would still not make a huge difference.

[@lachlanB323]

Um. Australia has a population of just 20 million and mining is Australia's biggest business so this is blatant cherry picking. Regardless nobody is buying ev's for the environment but instead because they like them since they're a better product. Also way better for the economy

[@golden.lights.twinkle2329]

@@lachlanB323 They aren't better for the economy if you can't afford one. The only economy they benefit is China's, because they supply all the batteries and chips. That supply will be turned off once China invades Taiwan.

[@lachlanB323]

@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 The only reason ev's aren't cheap right now is because they aren't producing enough ev's. Right now Tesla has a run rate of 1.6 million per year. And plans to and is increasing it by 50% per year hence exponential growth. As production increases the cost of making it comes down too. Battery prices have fallen 90% in 10 years. And it will fall another 50 from where it is now in a 5 years imo

[@lachlanB323]

@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 Also the only reason the incentives are coming is because ford and GM screwed up and didn't see the EV revolution coming and are freaking out because it's happening way quicker then they expected due to Tesla. So ford and GM lobbied and got the EV incentive. Tesla didn't want the EV incentive lol

[@benlondon8467]

@@lachlanB323 I’ll just keep driving my old dirty Ute/truck , run on cooking oil if required, black outs don’t affect, or creek crossing, can carry a power station in drums , 100 litres or so. 1 Volcano having a fart contributes more Emissions that a shitload of cars etc. I say make hay while the Sun shines, because tomorrow it might not matter. Big rock might fall out of the sky , Emissions from Automotive equipment won’t mean shit 🤪

[@MonstrousRingleader]

The child labourer scene broke my heart.

[@HorribusAT]

You should stop buying oil then. LFP batteries for EVs contain zero cobalt and the EV batteries that do contain cobalt now source it ethically - but cobalt has been used in oil refining with no regard for source for decades.

[@markjoseph264]

@@HorribusAT How do you know it is sourced ethically? Who actually verifies it? How easy is it to cheat the system and use child labor anyways?

[@bobfore3839]

Same kids are diggin lithium for your cell phone battery and your laptop battery. How broken is your heart now? Don't look into who is really making those Nike shoes either if child labor is concerning to you.

[@M.Mazouni]

Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.

[@HorribusAT]

@@Blackout____ not one? Not even the ones that aren't in the Congo? Man you're ignorant.

[@johnbond8743]

I wish they would worry more about big companies polluting our fresh water.I believe many more people die from bad water than bad air.

[@ChannelNews1]

I interviewed a top energy expert on my home page vid. He warns EV conversion will not happen and oil can never be replaced. Search for: Top Energy Expert Warns: Electric Car Conversion Will Not Happen And Oil Will Not Be Replaced.

[@henryklassen3362]

This is like the farmers kid that said, “I don’t like the eggs that come out of the chickens rear end, I prefer the ones from the grocery store”

[@Evan951001]

I'd be interested in seeing the average mileage that the battery has to be replaced and what that alone would add to it's lifetime carbon footprint.

[@Kit_Bear]

It all depends on how quickly you charge and discharge it and the rapid changing temperature of where you live. In the most extreme then perhaps 5 - 7 years. Top end about 15 - 20. Batteries really hate to be totally drained and for long periods so all batteries need to hold at least an 80% charge at all times to keep them at their best performance.

[@darksideblues135]

@@Kit_Bear Sounds like gas is easier to maintain.

[@Evan951001]

@@Kit_Bear there are multiple variables to account for but what I'm interested is the average number. The every day user of an electric vehicle; how often are these batteries being replaced. What is the net outcome. This data will come with time as every "new" technology. There are extremes at each end. But at the end of each vehicles life what is that net carbon footprint. You could take it one step forward and account for the carbon used to modify our existing infrastructure to accommodate all vehicles becoming electric vs maintaining our exsisting infrastructure. I'm positive this isn't something we would benefit from for many many lifetimes.

[@dafunkmonster]

@@Evan951001 Then there's the scarcity of lithium and neodymium, and the expense of recycling lithium batteries.

[@libertarian4323]

@@darksideblues135 Trust me, the Tesla is much easier to maintain. No gas stops, no oil, lube, and filter changes. No transmission fluid. No spark plugs. No air filter changes. No leaky valves/gaskets. Etc. All those annoying "features" of a combustion engine, are eliminated with electric cars. The Tesla phone app can be easily set to charge to optimum level.

[@POCarton]

One of the greatest freedoms we have as Americans is to be able to travel in the US wherever we want whenever we want. I could get in my car and drive from LA to Miami, stopping for gas, bathroom and rest if I need. I wouldn't have to worry about finding a working charging station or spending time charging. Electric cars severely restrict our ability to travel like that.

[@BioniqBob]

And you think it is okay to smoke in a store too no doubt. Learn something other than me me me.

[@POCarton]

???@@BioniqBob

[@BioniqBob]

@@POCarton You really do not understand much, do you?

[@petrciperny]

I drive for 150 miles max and than I need a restroom/break anyway. Always reliable Tesla superchargers give 150 miles in 10 min. But, yes, evs are not for everyone. Only for about 98% of current drivers.

[@robertkubrick3738]

@@BioniqBob That was an extremely random comment.

[@Intensive_Porpoises]

It's strange that so many people don't notice that electric cars are talked about like a perpetual motion device. Impossible

[@ChannelNews1]

Why do you way that?

[@Intensive_Porpoises]

@@ChannelNews1 From the way the green lefties are talking it sounds like they think electric cars are 'green' because they don't kick out any exhaust gases. It sounds like they think they've eliminated the energy requirement,.. but you still need energy input to get from A to B. The only way to eliminate the energy requirement is to not travel. You can't get work out without energy in - perpetual motion device. Electric cars aren't green, they're just an inferior method of transportation energy.

[@davidadams165]

I have to wonder, how many people that are driving around in their electric cars really think their cars are carbon neutral, when in reality, they’ve just exported their emissions to somebody else’s backyard.

[@brandonlee93]

They become carbon neutral after about 6,000 miles of driving. At least that’s the case for Teslas.

[@davidadams165]

@@brandonlee93 Does that calculation include the mining and manufacturing process, and the child labor in the cobalt mines in Africa? It’s not my intention to discourage anyone from purchasing an EV, but I think they are far from green. And I don’t place a high priority on carbon emissions. I guess the best way to say it is, EVs are an option in the modern auto market, and they should simply take their place alongside their gasoline and diesel powered cousins.

[@brandonlee93]

@@davidadams165 Yes, that figure takes into account the mining and production aspects. As far as cobalt is considered, Tesla has stopped using cobalt. About half of all Teslas on the road today have no cobalt. Lithium might be on its way out as well because the latest breakthrough for battery tech is sodium ion. Sodium is cheap, abundant, and non flammable. I’m not in it for the “green” aspects of it. I feel charging my car while I sleep and having more than enough range to get me through my day is a much more convenient way of doing things. No gas stations, oil changes, tune ups, etc. Until you live with an EV for an extended period, it’s difficult to imagine what it’s like. I was paying $600 a month in gas prior to buying my preowned Model 3, and that was right before gas prices got crazy. Charging at home costs me about $70 a month. So I’m happy. For long road trips, we take my wife’s ICE SUV.

[@drxym]

Yes because it's well known EVs only run off electricity generated by oil power stations right?

[@davidadams165]

@@drxym Well actually, coal and natural gas, but essentially in the same class with oil.

[@edinny8001]

Grateful for people like Stossel that still speak the truth and tell it like it is. Thank you John!

[@mustang607]

Truth is the sworn enemy of the extreme progressive.

[@Caseylawton]

Im not a fan of this "Well x amount of carbon is used to build 1 electric car" argument. Okay, but that's also true for gas cars... So one will at least eventually result in less carbon, the other will not. Furthermore, as processes and automation improve the carbon used to produce a car will go down. Look at some of Tesla's factories where they are powered 100% by renewable energy. Batteries are still a problem for now. The same argument goes for electricity that is created from carbon sources. Sending electricity to the charging station is far more efficient vs shipping gas via tanker to a gas station. Not to mention how much more efficient electric motors are vs ICEs... I'm not for a bunch of gov regulations to force the market. That's never a good idea. But there's simply no point in creating a reluctance to adopt electric vehicles. It will happen regardless because they are simply better all around.

[@hubertwalters4300]

@@Caseylawton If I could be the President of the US,I would issue an Executive Order that would require that 99% of all cars made in the US or imported into the US be gasoline or diesel powered,bc there is no reason to go electric, it's all based on the man made global warming/climate change scam.

[@johnnynick6179]

@@Caseylawton When EV's are better, they will become the norm. They are NOT right now. Rather than using government force to transition to "green" energy the market should dictate when/how/who. Anything else is irrational/immoral.

[@slydog7131]

@@johnnynick6179 Depends on your use case. For local travel, they are absolutely better. I have an EV and an ICEV. The ICEV stays parked most of the time. I drive the one that really is better, and almost all the time, that is the EV. If it wasn't, I wouldn't.

[@CharlieLarkin75]

I'm probably more environmentally sound by keeping old cars running, keeping them out of the junk cycle, and using them as long as possible, in addition to restoration. Donut Media, which is a car channel on KZbin, covered a very exciting project in South America (either Venezuela or Argentina, I don't recall at the moment), that essentially recycles gasoline. It's very interesting, and worth the ten minutes to watch. And all these dumb regulations will essentially make real pollution cleaning (like this project) illegal or economically unnecessary, therefore not happening. Regs and decrees hurt in the long run.

[@perception-reception]

If cars ran off of stupidity we would have an endless supply.

[@ChannelNews1]

I'm a car mechanic with 30 years experience and explain on my HOME PAGE VIDEO why EV conversion would be impossible.

[@perception-reception]

@@ChannelNews1 that's what I meant. I think EV is stupidity

[@ChannelNews1]

@@perception-reception please post on my home page video the item segment you are responding to, to further discuss.

[@freddieweimann3602]

At the local charging station there’s a diesel generator running behind the bushes....LMAO

[@jenrey5135]

😂🤦🏻‍♀️ and yet, some geniuses don't even notice

[@nutsackmania]

Doubt it.

[@brownro214]

Lots of charging stations have diesel generators for backup power.

[@pagosa1040]

This and more needs to be shouted from the mountain tops. I have lived with a non grid tie solar power system for 25years. I know what batteries can and cannot do and much of what comes from the political class is completely ignorant, uninformed nonsense. There are a lot of limitations and a limited life to all types of battery packs. Keep sending out the message.

[@mayharmon6948]

Anyone who wants to see a reduction in carbon emissions needs to travel less and buy less. Electric cars would not be the answer; bikes may well be the answer, as well as just living closer to work, recreation, and shopping. I live in a very blue state (MD), but it's impossible to do any basic function of life without getting into the car. It's dangerous to use bikes where I live; I'd really enjoy biking more places and my kids would love the chance. I don't pretend to be an advocate of carbon reduction or climate change; I drive a fair amount and we did choose our house and its many benefits. But I'm just pointing out that EV's are not an answer, and if anti-carbon politicians were serious they'd be altering the roads to make more room for safe biking and walking.

[@raiden72]

Have you tried lifepo4 batteries yet? They're much better than lithium ion and deep cycle acid batteries... Don't be looking at the world through tunnel vision or a 25 year old view...

[@moabman6803]

If public transportation was ramped up with subways and light rails with plenty of convenient stops people would not need cars. NYC kind of has it but the infrastructure is getting old.

[@Thanatos2996]

@@moabman6803 I wouldn't want to live anywhere modeled off NYC. I live in the suburbs and I don't have to drive anywhere day to day; it's completely possible to build a walkable/bikeable city without cramming everyone into a hellhole like NYC.

[@moabman6803]

@@Thanatos2996 Some areas of NYC are nice, some aren't. The point is public transportation is easy to access and faster than driving your own car. Is everything NYC has great? No. But it has systems that can be utilized and developed

[@seekingtruth3054]

Not only is there a bigger initial cost to own an EV. Be advised that states are not just going to sit back and give up their gasoline tax revenue. EV owners will be forced to subsidize gasoline usage. From InsideEVs, Jun 07, 2023 Some states are requiring electric vehicle owners to pay extra registration fees as part of a move to recoup lost revenue on gas taxes. In one state, a new senate bill requiring added costs for EV registration is set to become effective on September 1, and 32 other states feature similar fees.

[@dangradoville-rq2df]

Where r all the chargers? Why aren't they building power plants to make electricity to charge them?

[@robertkubrick3738]

It was nEVer meant to succeed. They didn't expect it to crater this quickly though.

[@UC_Fran]

I think the most environmentally friends way to own a car is whatever car you own, own it for a very long time.

[@jonellwanger7258]

Even better, go pick up a junker, and fix it up, Aren’t the hippies all about recycling?? I’ve got a nice ride thanks to the junkyard!! (Short videos on my channel, nothing really that current though)

[@orderlyhippo1569]

John Stossel is so underrated.

[@robertd9850]

By whom?

[@johnscott2076]

Under appreciated is not underrated

[@inertiaspinner555]

Elon Musk is a con artist

[@doomguy6913]

The truth is underrated.

[@joeyGalileoHotto]

The KZbin algorithm makes sure of that, they don't want the sheep to stray away from their endless stream of TikTok shorts

[@user-hg1ir1rg4o]

i love how they do not dare say where the electricity comes from lol

[@petrciperny]

They don't dare say? It's publicly available data. If you have a PV on your roof, that's where the el. comes from. Not like that with fossil fuels.

[@robertkubrick3738]

@@petrciperny Where did the PV panels come from? Unicorn glass and they magically appeared on top of your house from where they were made in china without ever having been on a cargo ship? Why didn't you mention that? How about the aluminum? Aluminum production is so expensive that it's sometimes referred to as congealed electricity. Yet you dare say nothing about that?

[@KING-FU]

With these recent “California Dreamin” policies, “Gruesome” and his water pipe are waaaay past one toke over the line.

[@brianbachmeier34]

2 words ... Open The Pipeline ⛽

[@Prekkersaurus]

that's 3 words.

[@Prekkersaurus]

@KenEboy what did I say that made you think that way? I've been a Republican for decades.

[@1pcfred]

Three letters FJB

[@MotoXplor]

Don't forget about the cost of comfort in an electric car. If you need air conditioning in the summer or heat in the winter, you pay the price of reduced mileage. ICE vehicles produce heat and that can be used to warm you, electric vehicles don't and must generate it by using up the batteries. Imagine getting stuck in a snow storm and the batteries, which work like crap in the cold anyway, run out of power.

[@Argedis]

A common complaint is 'weak A/C' because they need to use very efficient A/C systems otherwise they would lower the mileage even more. A basic portable A/C for your home can use 1500W easily

[@kevindebiasio5144]

Yes, the heat is free in an ICE engine because they are so inefficient.

[@vectoreyes]

Shhh, you're using logic and facts which contradict leftists ideologies and beliefs.

[@5Cats]

Heaven forbid you should try to pull any sort of trailer! Even a modest load cuts range in half.

[@Redmanticore]

there is ever increasing mileage from better and better batteries. this is just year 1 technology. gas cars are at the end of technological advancement, gas cars are on year 100. eventually batteries will carry at least 5x length than most economical car can go... the switch will be a no-brainer... the batteries also work fine in cold, i live in finland with -40 celsius winters. they shield the batteries from cold, insulate them.

[@allergy5634]

I don’t support electric cars. I support no cars

[@cvent8454]

They (the government) will have to pry my cold, dead hands off my gas powered car's steering wheel. I will never own an electronic car, especially after watching this video. Thank you.

[@AcesnEights698]

You know you're dealing with grifters, scammers and liars when they won't even debate or even acknowledge your arguments.

[@batmanlives6456]

It’s hard to argue for electric cars as there is so many holes in the argument for them… They are NO way green… No matter how they spin the story Look at the cold hard facts and all the magic disappears

[@jgringo5516]

Indeed.

[@kickassprankstaz]

What arguments that involve facts actually benefit electric ? My own experience is nerds are totally sold and maybe car enthusiasts but not mechanically inclined

[@batmanlives6456]

@@kickassprankstaz I would call your observation correct ✅ It’s just a fad thing and has no advantages for the environment despite what the fanatics say They only want to look at things through rose coloured glasses When the facts are analysed things fall apart rapidly I suspect they will be the next betacord … great in some people’s eyes 👀 But who is going to pay for the recycling at end of life … The yuppies that buy these things will have long moved on and as usual will wash their hands of responsibility

[@drxym]

@@batmanlives6456 they are greener than combustion engines. This is demonstrable from looking at emissions from the tailpipe and even upstream during manufacturing and energy. There are sites that break down the figures. The problem here is you're listening to a guy who is a climate change denialist and isn't burdened by evidence or adherence to facts.

[@marshall6604]

I’ve been saying these things for years. I’m nowhere near genius status. Yet there are so very many people who NEVER give much thought beyond the Kardashians, American Idol or what shoes are on sale at the local mall.

[@The_Real_Indiana_Joe]

How damn dumb can people be??? I sometimes feel guilty for not being a conman. I passed by a HUGE battery plant (for electric vehicles) being built in Kentucky, just south of Louisville, and I kid you not, there were 200 diesel powered vehicles parked out front to build this thing 😂😂😂

[@ChannelNews1]

I interviewed a top energy expert on my HOME PAGE VIDEO. He warns EV conversion will not happen and oil can never be replaced.

[@The_Real_Indiana_Joe]

@@ChannelNews1 Of course it can't. Those in power and trying to pervert the facts that cannot be disputed, just like the pervert everything under the Sun.

[@pdet1951]

I have been driving a electric Ford Transit since July. I live in Pa..normal miles per charge in warm weather is 163 miles that is good for are deliveries. Now that the temperature is dropping down to low 30’s the miles per charge went down to 124 miles per charge. That’s a big difference. I can’t believe what it will be went it winter time cold.

[@weaksignal8009]

In the future traveling to different cities will be exclusively for the rich/connected. Just like the Soviet system...

[@anthonyspadafora1384]

I live in PA also, just outside Reading. Last night was the was the first night below freezing. It will be interesting to see what your truck does when you have to defrost windows and keep the heat on when it is 20 out. When you say 124 miles do you mean till the battery is completely out or is it at the 30% mark where they tell you to charge to make the battery last longer?

[@richards4986]

I said this about cold weather and also long unforeseen traffic jams, including in darkness where legally need to keep lights on and to have the heater on to keep warm. I was shouted down by EV owners and some EV supporters.... on a you tube comments section

[@deadskinrippers]

Try the metrics after not using the ev car for a month. Big difference too

[@bmw803]

@@anthonyspadafora1384 I lose 10-15 miles out of 45 miles on my 2015 VOLT in extreme cold. But, at least the engine is there to help with heat. Full EV makes no sense to me. PHEV is the best concept modeled after VOLTEC.

[@codyhaynes6803]

One of the problems I have with electric is that they don't survive into the used car market very long. Many Americans cannot afford a new car,and don't qualify for loans to but them. Many of these people rely on cheaper, older used cars. Plenty of used car lots have 15-20+ year old vehicles for sale that are still in service. So far, the battery is very expensive to replace in any electric car, and no matter how well you treat it, it isn't projected to last that long. Nobody can or should justify spending 10k or 15k on a battery for a car worth 5k. In my opinion, in the long run, this makes the electric car extremely disposable and horribly wasteful.

[@davidadams165]

That’s what I’m hearing. These electric cars will have very little resale value, because of the limited lifespan of the battery.

[@SilveniumTheDrifter]

I agree very much with you, there.

[@shastaweston]

And when all manufactures have nothing But electric cars on their lineup they're gonna realize how screwed they are when no one's gonna buy because they already know that it's not going to be worth it 2 years down the road when the battery degeneration kicks in

[@davidadams165]

@@shastaweston And it looks like Toyota is already there. The last time I went to the local dealer, everything was either hybrid or electric.

[@printgymnast368]

@@davidadams165 Toyota is actually one of the companies that wants to stop this whole electric bs based on how hard it is to manufacture

[@Flemingsound]

The Manhattan Institute has received millions from oil interests over the years, including $635,000 from ExxonMobil and $1.9 million from the Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation, where Charles Koch and his wife sit on the board of directors. Koch made his fortune from oil and currently has significant holdings in oil and gas operations.

[@rickklein7792]

What's your point? Can you dispute any fact presented here?

[@Flemingsound]

@@rickklein7792 FACT is 97% of climate scientist point out the harm fossil fuels do the environment. FACT is these scientist don't receive anywhere near the payout the scientist in the Manhattan Institute do. Fact is you can't dispute the claims the 97% of scientist point out of the harm is being done. FACT is big corporations are not going to pay out to anyone for saying their product is harmful. So, what's your point?

[@humanyoda]

"My president". LOL

[@roquefortfiles]

An electrical expert who knows way more about it than I do said "If everyone in the USA went out and bought an EV tomorrow the power grid would collapse"

[@jamesnoord6295]

wouldn't even take that many really. Just a regional failure would knock out our grid. All fo he zones are interdependent. when one fails, the whole system has to respond by shutting down. Nobody really knows how a complete cold start would work. All the generator plants need to synchronize their AC power frequencies exactly or it doesn't work.

[@roquefortfiles]

@@jamesnoord6295 Meanwhile everyone thinks Musk is Henry Ford

[@roquefortfiles]

@@jamesnoord6295 It pisses me off that everyone is getting this false sense of security that EV's are going to solve all our problems.

[@1D10CRACY]

Your electrical friend has a keen sense of the obvious. In 1940 had everyone went out and bought an air conditioner over night, the grid would of collapsed. (Not that it was fully functional grid at that time) Change takes time, it doesn't happen overnight.

[@roquefortfiles]

@@1D10CRACY Total waste of time. Not practical. When there's a charging station at every gas station then i'll care.

[@intricatic]

It's basically ramping up the same logic behind recycling your plastic in a separate lil container. It's meant to make you feel good about yourself for doing something nice for the planet, even if you really aren't.

[@Dralonet]

Try to see where we are in 10 years instead.

[@scotttild]

try to see where all the batteries end up, right in landfills with all their toxic properties.

[@Dralonet]

@@scotttild eeh, no, they contain valuable materials that will absolutely not go to landfills. It will be reused.

[@matth9359]

@@scotttild false again. You morons just keep repeating demonstrably false information. Turn off the meme news.