Electric Euro roadtrip! England to Italy in a Peugeot e-208

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Andrew Till / Mr. EV

Andrew Till / Mr. EV

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@elbarkero
@elbarkero Жыл бұрын
The excitement when this showed up on my homepage
@AndyC2_
@AndyC2_ Жыл бұрын
That speaks volumes about your life
@antoniopalmero4063
@antoniopalmero4063 Жыл бұрын
Your honeymoon must have been a blast 😂 .
@elbarkero
@elbarkero Жыл бұрын
Yea speaks volumes that I’m planning on driving my ev across europe and love to see it can be done so easily.
@shanabugs
@shanabugs Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. As a newish EV owner, these journeys you have shared have inspired me to be confident with long trips across the length of the UK. Looks like Europe will be just as easy so thats next on my list!
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to hear that. Yes, do it!
@ginapeterb
@ginapeterb Жыл бұрын
Yes I was not confident about travelling across Europe then I watched Andrews video going to Italy last time - actually was followed his route most of IONITY stations we stopped to charge - starting at Baralle then Champfleury on to Troyes Sud - Jura - Bonville etc etc through France Switzerland and to Italy actually the IONITY stop around northern Italy are good - plenty of chargers up to Mont Blanc tunnel the choice is great - it was only when we watched video we decided to go
@JS-vs9co
@JS-vs9co Жыл бұрын
Great video - good to see that charging on long trips is becoming more trivial. Would love to see a separate showcase of the Tronity app 👍
@danwood7770
@danwood7770 6 ай бұрын
As a new E208 EV owner this video was so helpful and has shown me how to make my longer journeys easier thanks so much
@MrEV
@MrEV 6 ай бұрын
Lovely to hear. Thank you!
@JeanPierreWhite
@JeanPierreWhite Жыл бұрын
I chuckled when you mentioned guiltily using a toilet in a hotel. If that isn't bad enough one time I stopped at a supercharger, it was at a swanky shopping center so I thought, right no problem here. I walked for 20 mins around the shops, all high end clothes and other worthless places. No where to go. No food places or coffee shops. So I went back to the car with my legs crossed and saw a hotel across the road. I went across the road went in the hotel, acted like I owned the place with bravado and confidence to get by the receptionist without raising any concern. I found the toilets really quickly and was very proud of myself and then saw there was a lock on the toilet door with a sign saying see receptionist for a key and if you are charging your Tesla don't ask. I went out the side entrance and found a skip where I could go behind it and have a piss. On the way home we charged at the same place. I simply waited and drove to a target a mile down the road and used their facilities. I did buy something for my wife as a thank you to Target for meeting my needs.
@judebrown4103
@judebrown4103 Жыл бұрын
😂 Now this story is worthy of an Andrew and Flaviana video! 🤣
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
That's hilarious!
@hollyandtheev6519
@hollyandtheev6519 Жыл бұрын
Your road trip vids are genuinely some of the best content on KZbin. Love ‘em!
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@chrisrowe22
@chrisrowe22 Жыл бұрын
Love road trip videos! I find ABRP excellent for planning journeys, but useless for navigation. Plan on ABRP, and then put the route into Google Maps for a less stressful journey. I agree about driving an EV through France, a real pleasure. I’m off there again 2 weeks on Tuesday and I can’t wait!
@PierreSimonsson
@PierreSimonsson Жыл бұрын
wxactly my point i tryed to navigate with ABRP but i will NEVER EVER more use ABRP as a navigation tool, But again it is supergood to plan your trip.
@michaelridley2864
@michaelridley2864 Жыл бұрын
Exactly right.
@techwhizard
@techwhizard 10 ай бұрын
What if the map plan in ABRP incl charging stops along the way is different to what google or Apple Maps tell you for same route?
@smijas
@smijas Жыл бұрын
The drama-factor in EV-driving will subside, I'm glad you can spice it up with family members of Mr.EV, Nice trip, good video & edit work!
@antoniodimascio5340
@antoniodimascio5340 Жыл бұрын
I love to go to Italy 🇮🇹 with my fiat 500e it's my dream from childhood I remember when we went on holiday with a Austin 1100 from Cambridge to montecassino and with a fiat 124special T as a little boy I was excited thank you Mr. EV for your service and dedication
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
What a special memory!
@jozef5373
@jozef5373 7 ай бұрын
This year we will spend our holidays in Italy for the 3rd time. 2nd time with EV. Last year with citroen ec4 we did total 3500 km from Slovakia to Italy very easily. We have enjoyed it a lot.
@richardholland2389
@richardholland2389 Жыл бұрын
Great road trip video. It’s interesting to see the difference from your earlier trips to Italy. Faster, more reliable and easier to plan
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Definitely getting easier every time.
@cinnamonrage
@cinnamonrage Жыл бұрын
I left comments elsewhere complaining about a car brand - but this has been a really interesting well done video - thank you.
@LEgoiste.
@LEgoiste. Жыл бұрын
This was a great watch, you keep it real and with humour. It’s not only me then that takes that last second panic wrong turn!😢😂
@KeithWilliams-h2x
@KeithWilliams-h2x Жыл бұрын
Great, laid back presentation as usual Mr E V.👏👏😊😊
@seanashmore8785
@seanashmore8785 Жыл бұрын
Best EV channel on KZbin - I live vicariously through your videos.
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@jayrap94
@jayrap94 Жыл бұрын
Before having watched this I'm already excited and hopeful this trip was smooth and comfortable (energy and ride-wise). I STILL don't drive a few months before my 30th birthday but I'd love to one day drive from Britain down to Italian lakes and the French and Italian coastlines with a 14 ft/ 4267.2 mm long racing paddleboard on the roof of an electric car (advise on carrying SUPs/surfboards on EV roofs welcome from all commenters) and trip videos like this should be VERY helpful. I hope everything is even easier when I finally can afford to drive and buy an electric car! 🏄🛶🔌🚗🚄
@jayrap94
@jayrap94 Жыл бұрын
Watched it all - a nice easy drive (as far as long range drives go)
@SeanyAHardy
@SeanyAHardy Жыл бұрын
Wow that was an epic but enjoyable video. I’ve driven as far as Germany but I’ve always wanted to do Italy and you’ve encouraged me to do it.
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great to hear.
@geoffreyjones6019
@geoffreyjones6019 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video as per thank you. I can’t travel long distances because of health issues so really enjoy watching your peregrinations around Europe.
@kevinclarke9933
@kevinclarke9933 Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure I like EV’s, but I love these videos.
@troop73oo
@troop73oo Жыл бұрын
What a great road trip video, full of useful information and no music! Fantastic, really enjoyed thank you.
@michaelridley2864
@michaelridley2864 Жыл бұрын
Another great road trip video, thanks. We managed a long weekend in Normandy recently, our first EV experience abroad, and it all worked pretty well. Ionity are brilliant, particularly with plug and charge enabled. And on Electroverse they are also a bargain at 39p per KWH. However away from the main routes, some of the urban charging infrastructure (7kw AC) seems not quite as reliable, to put it mildly....
@harley883ap
@harley883ap Жыл бұрын
Glad you got through all the editing & got this video out great evening viewing for me & my Daughter Gilly
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Yes, it was quite a task getting it edited. In the middle of the next part now... Thanks so much!
@iantaylor1172
@iantaylor1172 Жыл бұрын
Watched it. Gives me confidence to do road trips to Europe.
@ISuperTed
@ISuperTed Жыл бұрын
Brave man! I drive an e208 And i the UK have had a couple of range anxiety moments that have put me off long trips here. Seems like Europe is far better - what a surprise!
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
It never used to be that way. France in particular has made enormous strides in the past two years. It helps to have a relatively competent government! That said, things are improving quickly in the UK. Just not quick enough!
@PhilippeDHooghe
@PhilippeDHooghe 11 ай бұрын
Great video, Andrew. I guess the way back was not worth another video, which is quite all right. I have owned the e-208 for over 2 years now. My wife and I absolutely love it. I started looking at your videos when I bumped across the "Charges too fast" one, which intrigued me and I ended up watching the whole very long thing because I really like how you do these. They are the most real life experience video's I've seen on EVs. I always look to Bjorn Nyland's because of the techie stuff I'm into and also the 1000 km challenges speak to me. I skip a lot through his. But your video's have a much more "normal people" and "every day use" approach, I skip nothing on yours. The e-208 you used is a better version than mine that is a first batch production. Yours had more and better heat pumps, a transmission ratio that is better suited to hiway driving and a more informative dash. My e-208 may have done 23 kWh/100km on the same trip, but I found it becomes more efficient when DC fast charging. Mine is a GT on those beautiful but inefficient 17 inch low profile tyres, also not helping with consumption and very harsh suspension, but the thing handles like a gocart, "like a Porsche" as Bjorn said. Stellantis is learning, but I'm pretty disappointed about the e-308 which they should have done on the STLA platform. I don't mind my e-208 being thirsty, we use it for local stuff and we have a Mercedes Diesel Estate for long haul. On local stuff our e-208 does 18 kWh/100 km on average. And it charges from our solar, so there is really nothing to complain about. But it limits long haul capability, we never used it for a destination that does not fit one full charge. I may stretch it a bit and do some DC fast charging to get home. I see your Megane is quite a bit better. I believe 12 kWh/100 km should be achievable in the not too distant future for "local driving" and hiway consumption should be more like a Tesla Model 3, proving we are perfectly capable of 18 kWh / 100 km on sustained hiway speed limit driving. I believe the future is to not too fast charging and big batteries for long haul EVs. 18 kWh * 6 * 1.42 makes the battery 150 kWh charging at 1.5 C (230 kW) for a 10-80 charge time of 30 minutes for adding 600km of range. With future batteries that don't mind 100% SoC, the battery capacity may be lower at around 120 kWh.
@judebrown4103
@judebrown4103 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, really enjoyed this. I'm sure you wont have argued on the way back but i bet something happens to make us chuckle😄👍
@hansj5846
@hansj5846 2 ай бұрын
Jura is tremendous ❤
@somethingpeculiarthistime
@somethingpeculiarthistime Жыл бұрын
With the Kempower chargers, if you tap your side of the screen you get a QR code you can scan and follow the charging on your phone. You also get a charging curve recorded.
@judebrown4103
@judebrown4103 Жыл бұрын
Ooh that's interesting to know, thanks 👍
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
I’ve filmed another video just about Kempower where I show exactly that. It’s such a great feature.
@bartvanhoof6278
@bartvanhoof6278 Жыл бұрын
@@MrEV and if you tap the "globe" icon at the centre top of the screen you can switch the language to English (or another of choice).
@decimal1815
@decimal1815 11 ай бұрын
Charge speeds are really impressive in this car.. nice!
@Keith_Butcher
@Keith_Butcher Жыл бұрын
Great video. Did that trip years ago using petrol. Great to see familiar places again and that the major problems are still language and customs. Never did understand how shops worked!
@lknight5579
@lknight5579 Жыл бұрын
Always very watchable and I like the Guy Ritchie editing.
@nealy2815
@nealy2815 Жыл бұрын
Well done for taking the trip on for the sake of the review. 👋
@ginapeterb
@ginapeterb Жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew welcome to Marina de Cerveteri !! Great video
@CookiezFlow
@CookiezFlow Жыл бұрын
These hour long road trip videos of yours are always a treat ! Hopefully we will not have to wait a year for another one. However as much as I love roadtrips, from a financial perspective, if you are travelling alone sadly it doesn't seem to be a great option with how cheap flying/trains can be these days. The tolls, tunnels, hotels, food and snacks during the charging stops, and of course the charging itself really adds up quickly. As well as the added mileage on the car so less resell value, tire usage, car washes, and also always the risk of an accident that could be dangerous and expensive. Which is a shame because I would love to do more, but you really need to be at the minimum 2 in the car in most cases to at the very least makes some sense.
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Very true. Certainly if I wasn't making KZbin videos, I'd probably have flown as well.
@COSolar6419
@COSolar6419 Жыл бұрын
As an Ioniq 5 owner, I can appreciate why you would be missing it.
@nicholasarthurwood
@nicholasarthurwood Жыл бұрын
Just imaging how boring it would be. Having to watching someone constantly stop......... and fill up their Diesel car!
@kathrynmoll86
@kathrynmoll86 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful -- a veggie burger with gerkins! If you have it made to order, BK has the best Impossible Wopper Burger. It doesn't taste like cow breath (believe you me, I know what a cow's breath is like after growing up on farms). Agree with you on road trips with charge breaks. Never a hassle! With our Tesla X, as comfortable and roomy as it is, we would rather get out every so often, stretch the legs, have a coffee & croissant while the car charges. It does make the trip so much more enjoyable. Hey, always enjoy your videos even though we live a continent away! Love seeing the European maps with your charging stops, chuckling with your lovely sense of humour!
@francecmax
@francecmax Жыл бұрын
Thanks again Andrew, just love your videos. Just to mention, if you take the Irish Ferries from Cherbourg (yes pronounced "Cherbourg") in France to Dublin, they have 7kw onboard EV chargers for just 15 euros... must give it a try!
@mysurlytrucker7510
@mysurlytrucker7510 8 ай бұрын
Driving in Italy is interesting 😊 you could say, even dangerous 😳 but one thing is you will be happy when back in Switzerland or France.
@Jaw0lf
@Jaw0lf Жыл бұрын
Great video to show what can be done with a smaller range EV. I think that you need more to show the time you have driven between charges, as it would be easy for non EV drivers to just see charge after charge! Driving to Disneyland Paris was my biggest trip in my EV and it was also very easy with charging done when I was ready to eat, drink or use the facilities. Also the charging was done before we were!
@bazbexchashan7075
@bazbexchashan7075 6 ай бұрын
I know its not always possible but if you get the chance, visit Langres next time.
@MrEV
@MrEV 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@riccardomarinoni6733
@riccardomarinoni6733 Жыл бұрын
I'm italian, i have a Kona Electric that Is fantastic. You are a Hero, a very long trip with the 208. Also thanks to free to x, becase they install a lot of new charger in the service stations in the highway. Without them took long trip, with an electric car, was almost impossible
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
We may be getting a Kona soon!
@riccardomarinoni6733
@riccardomarinoni6733 Жыл бұрын
@@MrEV very efficient car with a stunning range
@Ava481
@Ava481 Жыл бұрын
Interesting content and well edited - appreciate this must have taken ages! Taking out the onto costs, it seems like quite a frugal way to travel especially if your wife and daughter had travelled together with you, albeit I know the Shell card saved you £££s. Interesting charge time was just over 4 hours, which given total travel time of 24 hours, seems completely reasonable. There's a bit of obsession about range all the time but I like the small but frequent stops to put that at bay. Certainly convincing that it's becoming much more viable. Cheers
@bloodynorahvan2203
@bloodynorahvan2203 11 ай бұрын
Enjoyed watching this, thanks 🙂
@DebbieDaydream
@DebbieDaydream Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching this, great video 👍 can’t wait for part 2!
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@UloPe
@UloPe Жыл бұрын
I’m about to leave for a ~650 km road trip as a brand new (4 weeks) EV owner (Volvo XC40). Very much looking forward to how longish trips will be. Your channel really has been quite a positive influence on getting an EV now.
@LEgoiste.
@LEgoiste. Жыл бұрын
Great car, I’ve had my B4 5wks thoroughly impressed. It’s so quiet and smooth it feels like an ev! Vapour Grey looks lovely too. Enjoy, oh and aren’t the headlights amazing?!
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Have a great trip! You should be fine in the Volvo as it has route planning all built-in I believe.
@mrmidland_traveller936
@mrmidland_traveller936 Жыл бұрын
I can confirm that the Google Maps that’s built into the Volvo XC40 does it all for you. And it is a great car !
@UloPe
@UloPe Жыл бұрын
​@@MrEVFirst leg done, it was a total breeze with the built in charge planning via google maps. The charge estimation was a bit overly pessimistic though. I arrived at both planned charge stops with ~8% more than was predicted so I might have actually gotten away with even shorter charging stops. I'll try to come up with a more aggressive plan via ABRP for the way back.
@UloPe
@UloPe Жыл бұрын
@@LEgoiste. Yeah I'm really enjoying mine :) The pixel lights are indeed amazing!
@kamally
@kamally 11 ай бұрын
Surprisingly doable with enough planning. Also experienced that if you run into a broken Ionity charger, you can call a phone number that is on the charger and they will remotely restart it within 3-4 minutes.
@patrickfavier4310
@patrickfavier4310 Жыл бұрын
E-Niro here, from 2019, 127.000km, and can still drive Netherlands to Piemonte Italy in a single day.(1200km drive) The ABRP has been usefull at first, with not much experience, but getting to know how the car behaves, learned to plan it down to below 10% SoC stops to get the maximum charging speeds, running 5-55% SoC runs in between charges.
@europainvicta3907
@europainvicta3907 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been driving London to Rome for decades. I’d like to try it in an electric car. I used to do the trip in about 28 hours - sleeping in the car. Those days are over now 😊 I last did it about a month ago and stopped in Chambery and Parma on the way to Rome but was a bit quicker on the way back stopping only in Oulx. Mind you we were going to Paris (where we also live) on the way back. I left the car in Paris and used the Eurostar when I needed to come to London. One of my favourite routes - but a bit longer - is through Belgium into Germany down to Stuttgart, Ulm, across the Fern Pass to Innsbruck, then the europabruke to Trento, Milan, Piacenza and then it’s a straight road to Roma.
@willielarsson9651
@willielarsson9651 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing this.. jeez I'm worried about travelling from Glasgow to Bridlington in Oct!
@phphph6022
@phphph6022 Жыл бұрын
Just travelled to Belgium from Newcastle (via the ferry from Hull) in our 40kwh Leaf. I invested in a Chargemap card for 20 euro and it worked everywhere, highly recommended. Our trip of 675 miles cost £62 in total.
@somethingpeculiarthistime
@somethingpeculiarthistime Жыл бұрын
Yay! Been waiting for this!
@EVDaysOut
@EVDaysOut Жыл бұрын
Finished watching - took 3 sessions 😀. Hubby really wants to do a long trip in Europe, but I am not so keen. I would need a holiday when we got back. Your experiences are pretty much what we find in the UK - plenty of chargers and they mostly work.
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Well done getting through it all. You'll need another three sessions for the next part, but there's some more beautiful Italian scenery in it at least!
@grahamhill7845
@grahamhill7845 Жыл бұрын
37.49 mins in and loving it
@nipa6666
@nipa6666 Жыл бұрын
Great Video as always thanks!!!
@cp4512
@cp4512 11 ай бұрын
Great video and I thoroughly enjoyed watching your trip, but does show how long trips are still dominated by charging planning in an EV.
@MrEV
@MrEV 11 ай бұрын
Much depends on the country. These days you can pretty much drive anywhere in France without planning as every motorway stop will have a hub. That’s going to be what I try next time!
@forcata
@forcata Жыл бұрын
I love your videos man please upload more
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@drxym
@drxym Жыл бұрын
I've had an EV for 4 months now and I'm yet to connect to a public charger. What I really hate though is how many stupid apps and cards I've had to apply for just in case I need to charge some day.
@nickman011
@nickman011 5 ай бұрын
I have had the same problem with ABRP and tronity with my e208 I have one from 2020. I know you probably don't have the car anymore. So this comment might help other owners. I found and app that is better in my opinion for on route rplanning with charging stops it's called Pump it connects with your car's API to get live battery data and consumption it does not lose connection like tronity. I have used it for a year now and I like it it has awesome Apple car play integration.
@MrEV
@MrEV 5 ай бұрын
Pump is great - it's got a lovely, clear interface - although I found it better in Europe than the UK when I last tried. I'll try to feature it in a video soon.
@francodellamura7471
@francodellamura7471 Жыл бұрын
Hello Andrew, I hope you and your family are well. Have you driven over the new Morandi bridge in Genova? Talking about the state of the roads, I once had to drive to Rome on business and drove through a village called Mentana (the worst road I have ever been on).
@bmwalker89
@bmwalker89 Жыл бұрын
Another great video
@pxidr
@pxidr Жыл бұрын
The charging network in France got better really fast.
@richardlphillips
@richardlphillips Жыл бұрын
"Moral of the story is to use your eyes and not the satnav" 😂🤣 that really did make me lol.
@victorseal9047
@victorseal9047 Жыл бұрын
Do you still have to bring your own charge cable in Europe on the 7/22kw chargers ? 😊
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Most of the time, yes. I’d always leave the cable in the car just in case.
@tobytroubs
@tobytroubs 11 ай бұрын
We used to drive to the South of France regularly back in the 80's, the thing that's striking is the number of stops you have to make , overnight charging seems to mitigate this somewhat
@QALibrary
@QALibrary Жыл бұрын
38:00 Total agree with your thinking about social media but thanks to you and others Twitter is a nice place
@TJWhiteStar
@TJWhiteStar Жыл бұрын
I know you've said that Tesla's route planning is what you'd call the Gold Standard but what did you think of the Renault Megane's Google Maps based system as that includes all the stops etc too?
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Yes, the Megane is also brilliant - as is Volvo and Polestar actually, which share the same Google OS. Tesla's route planning is just arguably better as it obviously includes Superchargers (the ones exclusive to Tesla) and the way it shows charging hubs from other networks is clever: it will only show the ones that are reliable and have been used by other Tesla owners recently.
@ThroughJermainesLens
@ThroughJermainesLens Жыл бұрын
I don't get the no hydrogen allowed? While we have seen many for instance tesla's burning up out of nowhere... and they are pretty much impossible to put out
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
As I understand it, gasses are stored at unbelievably high pressure (hydrogen especially so), so if there is a problem, an explosion is far more likely and potentially more damaging. I've not heard of any hydrogen car exploding but I have seen videos of LPG cars and hydrogen busses going up and it's terrifying. As you say, battery fires can be a nightmare to put out so that would create a whole other set of problems, although I imagine the occupants would at least still have a good chance of escape.
@JonathanPalfrey
@JonathanPalfrey Жыл бұрын
btw the flicking on the screen is caused by the high shutter speed of the iPhone because its bright, it needs to match the screen to avoid flicking but that would require an adjustable aperture, which the phone doesn't have or using an ND Filter.
@shreyaanagar
@shreyaanagar Жыл бұрын
Great video Andrew, as always! We do an annual drive from UK to Italy in an Ioniq 5 and absolutely love it. I wonder, is there a reason why you don't take the route via Switzerland and always prefer to go down south to France? Just curious. Thanks!
@QALibrary
@QALibrary Жыл бұрын
46.08 that a very interesting film affect - it looks like you driving backwards when you look at the crash barrier
@andrewjohnston1963
@andrewjohnston1963 9 күн бұрын
Hi really interesting drive. As a Peugeot diesel driver (and since 205GTi days a Peugeot brand fan - Hyundai - really?? - how much carbon is used shipping the thing from Korea?!!!!) considering the 308SW electric and as a ski instructor I was really interested in the drive. Three points surprised me a) how fast the car charged b) how risk averse you were (perhaps wisely so!) to running it below 10% charge and c) how easily you got charging spaces. I do wonder if for example I was driving to the Alps on the first Saturday of Feb half term a) how many charges I would need driving with heater and lights on the car and carrying skis luggage and potentially 2 more adults and driving up to ski resorts in sub zero temps b) whether I would actually not spend hours waiting in queues for charging stations and c) whether I wouldn't be asking myself why I gave up the ease of 2 litre 308 diesel power! Can you answer a) b) and c)?!! I also have a gut feeling that as with mobiles, the battery longevity will improve substantially if I just hang on for 2-3 more years before making the jump to e308SW
@swanvictor887
@swanvictor887 10 ай бұрын
fascinating video. For me, what I like is wondering how we will look upon videos like this in say, ten years? Already, today, travelling across Europe in an EV is now possible with little inconvenience...imagine in a decade: every petrol station will have been converted, route planners and Ai will have improved the software systems greatly...hopefully, paying for charging will be much simpler than it is now and hopefully, much much cheaper than it is now thanks to more green energy. These videos might become rather like those old Cine films your grandparents shot in the 1960s...! lol Looking forward to watching part two. By the way...these were only in my feed this week, they were not recommended to me when you uploaded them!
@MrEV
@MrEV 10 ай бұрын
That’s an interesting thought. We’ll probably look back at journeys like this and wonder how we managed! To be honest, Tesla drivers already have a taste of the future since the route planning and charging provision is so brilliant.
@EdgyNumber1
@EdgyNumber1 11 ай бұрын
The cable thickness is because of the water cooling jacket. If water cooling was not available, the cable would need to be three times as thick.
@MrEV
@MrEV 11 ай бұрын
Yes, it just surprised me how big it was for a 150kW unit. The cable was the same size as IONITY's.
@michalrybinski3233
@michalrybinski3233 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Tronity code!, signrd up and looks really usefull long term
@SJP7752
@SJP7752 7 ай бұрын
Hi Andrew, just rewatching this, as we are taking delivery of the e208 shortly. We are travelling to France in the summer and I was wondering did you have to add headlamp deflector? Great video and always.
@MrEV
@MrEV 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! I couldn’t find a definitive answer to that simple question but as far as I’m aware, modern LED headlights negate the need for deflectors.
@mdshovel
@mdshovel Жыл бұрын
Enjoyable as ever Andrew. Most reviews say the Citroen eC4 is much more comfortable than the Peugot. I have the Volvo XC40 Twin which is very comfortable for long journeys and runs on Android Automotive - so has Google Maps built in with EV route planning and SOC etc ... I reckon that is the best after Tesla. Also has Plugshare on screen that integrates with the Google Maps. Then the voice control is the best ever.
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Funny enough, we have the e-C4 at the moment. It is certainly a bit more comfortable. If I was buying a new car, I'd be very tempted to go for Megane/Volvo/Polestar simply due to it using Android. It really is brilliant!
@mdshovel
@mdshovel Жыл бұрын
@@MrEV The wife likes the look of the Polestar but banged her head getting in - so agrees the XC40 is much better for access and higher view 😀
@Knott1701
@Knott1701 Жыл бұрын
Did the trip back from Dole (about half the trip you did). Was hot, over 30 degrees most of the way (air con full on), motorway speed (81mph), and still managed 3.7 miles per kw. Had a wait at Eutotunnel so charged up, but didn't need to to get home, and still only cost me £38 to get home with 60% charge.
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Impressive! What were you driving?
@Knott1701
@Knott1701 Жыл бұрын
@@MrEV 2022 Model 3 Long Range (dual motors) with the 18" Aero wheels and hub caps
@colinmcbottle
@colinmcbottle 7 ай бұрын
Checking the finish trip distance. Its crazy to think the 208 mk1 with HDI engine would have only required 1 refuel in the whole trip (estimated autonomy of 900-1000km), while the mk1/mk2 petrol variants would have required 2. Gives perspective of how the range warps the trip around smaller, more frequent stops and that in turn changes driver habits: one big stop over 8-9 hours of driving will most likely mean the driver will eat/dine/go to WC/take a nap/etc, vs smaller coffee/snack + WC stops in a EV. Lastly, I think Europe and SEA are ideal use cases for EVs regarding to urban/charging infrastructure. Everything seems to be at arm's length and for some people it will be crazy to travel several countries away with a car. More scattered countries like US, Brazil, Russia, India, Australia, Argentina may produce a different experience since the inter-urban and travel stop distances are still defined mostly by ICE vehicle ranges. This limits routing and stop choices for EV/PHEV users a lot IMO
@GF-ep1pf
@GF-ep1pf Жыл бұрын
Share your bridge fear. Haven’t taken my 500 out of the UK (though tempted to take it home to Turin) but am looking forward to some road trips when our polestar arrives.
@_moto_marc3854
@_moto_marc3854 Жыл бұрын
Just bought a 72 plate GT model e208. Get it next week. Our first EV, been stressing about range but if you can get to Italy, I can get to work 😂
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! It's a great car. Even my wife likes it!
@Jeddin
@Jeddin Жыл бұрын
A running theme seems to have been that you would’ve been better off getting your destinations from ABRP but actually navigating with Apple Maps or Google maps. The share function in ABRB will allow you o share your next destination or your entre itinerary, with all the charging stops to either maps with one click so it’s hardly an inconvenience. Select the next charging distilnation or select the final destination in ABRP then click share You only need to refer back to ABRP for how long to charge for.
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
I've done that before and it works very well, but I do like getting the live info about charger availability in ABRP. Also I hope it made for a more interesting video!
@rtfazeberdee3519
@rtfazeberdee3519 Жыл бұрын
Wow Ivrea !! see that mentioned very rarely. I worked there for a number of weeks for Olivetti way back in the mid to late 80s on their computers post their typewriter phase. there used to be a hotel in the main square that was externally modelled on a typewriter due to Ivrea being the main site of Olivetti offices and software/hardware development factories.
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Amazing! That must have been such an exciting time! A bit like going from ICE to EV perhaps?!
@rtfazeberdee3519
@rtfazeberdee3519 Жыл бұрын
@@MrEV They had their own PCs until they dropped it for MS PCs and various Windows server boxes and other multiuser boxes running the dreaded SCO unix. it was fun going away to work for periods of time to Olivetti's home town :)
@dmn1000000
@dmn1000000 Жыл бұрын
Great video Andrew. I'm driving through France and Spain in 2 weeks in my Zoe ze50. What does the future have in store for your channel now that onto has gone into administration? Tbh i think you and Flaviana could do anything and people would watch. Keep up the good work all of you
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
I'll make a video about Onto soon. It won't change anything much for us - there's plenty in the pipeline and loads of opportunities for content, thankfully. Thanks for your concern!
@trevorlarwood6118
@trevorlarwood6118 Жыл бұрын
Love the video. I can'y imagine how long it takes just to edit all the footage! Would love to see get to 10% state of charge before charging. Although you probably would be very stressed! he he
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, editing takes absolutely ages. Since why I've still not finished the Model 3 road trip video from last year! I'd have been fine with 10% really. There are enough chargers around to make it less nerve-wracking than it used to be.
@dlschgo
@dlschgo Жыл бұрын
Flaviana! Thank God!
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Briefly, yes. Hopefully a bit more in the next part!
@pawekropi5077
@pawekropi5077 Жыл бұрын
I would go for more frequent charging at lower SoC and up to like 60-70%. Charging above 80% is soooo inefficient... As for the Ionity - I've got them close to my place and 3 out of 4 stands have been out of order for couple of weeks now. That is why I am thinking on switching to Tesla, although I also prefer physical buttons and compact size of the eNiro.
@colinwiseman
@colinwiseman 4 ай бұрын
I think it was this video that will make me buy a 2nd hand Peugeot e-208. The range and charging speed is at that sweet point with a half decent price. And maybe...just maybe it'll get me to Greece if her indoors says yes to a 5 day journey 😂
@MrEV
@MrEV 4 ай бұрын
I’d love to do a trip to Greece in one. It’s about the only size of car suitable for driving on some of those narrow roads!
@colinwiseman
@colinwiseman 4 ай бұрын
​@@MrEV ooh the double sweet point.
@rabidpb
@rabidpb Жыл бұрын
Those new chargers at Folkestone have been under construction for about a year now, don't hold your breath for them... but the Tesla chargers there are available to non-Tesla cars so maybe it doesn't matter too much.
@johnroberts118
@johnroberts118 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Surprised at efficiency. Less than 4 miles per kwh seems low. We have a niro and would expect more than 4 this time of year? Had ours 4 and half years and still love it (except the weird radio!)
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
e-Niro is certainly more efficient in my experience, although not by very much when going European motorway speeds as it's not very streamline. The old Hyundai Ioniq would be more efficient, for instance.
@necunecu4230
@necunecu4230 Жыл бұрын
great video, only the steering wheel is on the wrong side as well as the wrong units.😁
@moragkerr9577
@moragkerr9577 Жыл бұрын
I'm semi-seriously looking at equipping my MG4 so I can sleep in it if I want to on journeys like this. With the front seats as far forward as they'll go there is 1.8 metres from the seat backs to the tailgate. I'm five feet seven. A lilo or single airbed, a sleeping bag, figuring out how to keep the car awake with the HVAC system on all night without the 12v giving up the ghost. Maybe basic supplies for breakfast/bedtime snacks, basic washing facilities - but service stations might eliminate the need for that. VtL would boil a kettle or even run a microwave, though I'm not sure I'd want to go that far. Might not be practical, but there have been times I'd have been glad of the possibility. Like trying to find accommodation in a town in Champagne when there was a wine festival I didn't know about. (I got what seemed like the last hotel room in town.) Same thing in Donegal when everyone seemed to be heading for the same place. I got lucky again, but that won't always happen. Or the time I spent over £100 for a hotel room I arrived in at 11.15 at night and had to get up and leave again at 8.30 am to catch a ferry. Expensive sleep.
@B0jangle5
@B0jangle5 Жыл бұрын
Great video, makes me want to plan a trip to France. Almost bought an e-208 due to it feeling more sporty than the Zoe. Only found out from this that the max charge rate is almost double which might have made me think twice.
@dmn1000000
@dmn1000000 Жыл бұрын
The Zoe has more range and is cheaper - thats why I bought mine over the e208.
@mymiphone1841
@mymiphone1841 Жыл бұрын
​@@dmn1000000It's true but the e-208 is more beautifull😉
@dmn1000000
@dmn1000000 Жыл бұрын
@@mymiphone1841 I agree!
@gaztambo139
@gaztambo139 Жыл бұрын
Great video, but having to be obsessed about where the next charger is, and dealing with queues and broken ones, really puts me off EVs. They really need to hurry up and perfect solid state batteries with 800 mile range. Charge up and just enjoy your Holiday, that’s how it should be. 🙂
@Petelmrg
@Petelmrg Жыл бұрын
An enjoyable but bittersweet watch for me as we should be driving through France in our Tesla right now but had to postpone due to an ill wifey; our trip earlier this year in an MG4 was totally hassle-free btw.
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope your wife gets better soon. (Great to hear it went well in the MG4 anyway. Now that's a car I need to try!)
@Petelmrg
@Petelmrg Жыл бұрын
@@MrEV - if you’re a depressive goth you’ll love the interior.
@JayWalker
@JayWalker Жыл бұрын
To change units on apple maps. U go to settings, then general, then language and region, and measurement system is in there. Totally agree it should allow you to say Auto pick based on location. iOS18 maybe eh? ;)
@bimlico
@bimlico Жыл бұрын
Why oh why do you put yourself through such grief? My 520D has a range of 1,100 kms when full. It does 54mpg and I've never yet pulled into a filling station to find all the pumps broken. Why are so many ev chargers so often out of order? Also it takes 2 mins to fill my car. Go figure.
@colinwiseman
@colinwiseman 4 ай бұрын
Did he put himself through grief? It looked quite a relaxed drive to me.
@graafisk
@graafisk 10 ай бұрын
We are considering an e-208, so I though: "Road trip! He's bound to use the adaptive cruise control and talk about lane-assist." - Nope, not a single mention. All about charging with a 'free' credit card and using a pay-per-month app to plan the charging route. It wasn't that useful to me... except to know that I don't want to do a (toll)-road trip through France or Italy. You seem to like the car though... that was useful.
@MrEV
@MrEV 10 ай бұрын
This trim level didn’t have adaptive cruise control so I didn’t use it. I think I mention it in the next part briefly.
@mozzaev
@mozzaev Жыл бұрын
This is why I love my Polestar 2, as put in the destination and let the car plan the stops... ABRP I find is buggy as hell at times
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Baffling that more EVs don't use Google's OS as it's clearly so good in the Megane/Volvo/Polestar.
@alecporter1784
@alecporter1784 Жыл бұрын
Did a trip to Pompeii in 2017 in a motorhome and also found the whole drink v food at service stations frustrating and so inefficient
@salipander6570
@salipander6570 Жыл бұрын
Your video watches like a storybook. Very relaxing! What do you think its actual, practical range is on a full charge?
@MrEV
@MrEV Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was getting about 160 miles on average, doing European motorway speeds in summer. Around town it's closer to 180.
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