Electricians day installing shower circuit and consumer unit find.

[@craigmcdonald4988]

Brilliant video, nothing better than doing electrical work all day they coming home and watching other guys do electrical work during their day ha

[@DerekHundik]

you nailed it

[@MysteriousDrJ]

Great to see these vids from the likes of you and Nagy, unfiltered unscripted just told how it is in the real world. Excellent.

[@emian4534]

Love the videos, doing my level 2 electrical at college right now and just watching these vids helps me understand things even more, since it’s in a working environment.

[@mrhaydon]

Fire clips are definitely not a load of old balls. I have a friend whose dad is an ex firefighter and he's told me stories about the times he's been caught up in cables that have collapsed. Scary stuff!

[@JasperJanssen]

Plastic melts *long* before wood starts collapsing.

[@tomcoles7726]

Top electrical work. Shocking pipework from the plumber! I hope that was a handyman and not a tradesman!!

[@cjmillsnun]

I'm guessing it was the homeowner.

[@davidmarsden8868]

Tom Coles I noticed that, looked crap

[@trcostan]

Never gets old watching you guys across the pond! Electric showers seem so weird coming from the US! We do have demand water heaters mostly gas around here but you will find an electric from time to time. Last one I saw was feed with 3 x 30a 240v circuits one 10ga (2.588 mm) run for each stage of the heater. Keep in mind this is a whole home unit not just one shower.

[@1414141x]

I am a plumber in the UK and always suggest to customers that they choose an electric shower in preference to having a shower supplied by hot water from the boiler. Main reason being that if the boiler breaks down and it's going to be out of service for some days due to getting someone available to fix it or waiting for spare parts, having an electric shower means you even though your heating and hot water supply to the taps (fawcets) is down you still have a hot water st the shower. Especially important if you have a large family and children to keep clean !

[@gartmorn]

Hi there, I just discovered your channel and it's really interesting. Definitely subscribing. I'm a retired power station electrical fitter which is quite a different job so it's good to be able to see the domestic side of things! I'm quite amazed to see some of the jobs you are confronted with at times, ie botch ups! I know I would be tempted to walk away from quite a few of them! Keep the videos coming and keep an old spark amused!

[@MyTrustedElectrician]

Great idea with those ties. Will be looking into those

[@brucewrobak9065]

I'm enjoying how you do electrical work in the UK. Especially the flexible stranded conductors in the cables. In the US we typically use a 5ma trip rated 120 volt GFCI receptacle to protect people. The 30 ma trip would be to protect wired equipment. The residential voltage supplied by the utility is nominally 120/240 volt with lights and receptacles supplied at 120 volts.

[@yensabi]

Nice job , shame about that dodgy pipe work , some people don't give a shit and get away with it......😡 Cheers.....👍

[@Blitterbug]

Yeah, that pipeworkwas shite. Your trunking job was ace.

[@peterryan7827]

OMG, that cold water mains, For christ's sake a couple more clips would have helped.

[@B3CK377]

Great video! I've seen other electricians videos of them installing some sort of isolator that automatically turns off the other shower to reduce the current demand

[@Cjrelectrical]

Yes a priority switch it’s an idea but a pricey one that the client won’t go for.

[@jonl536]

Good video! You can get a shower priority unit that would only allow one shower supply to be on at a time, works well 👍

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

How much are those units?

[@jonl536]

£100 plus VAT for a unit where you choose which shower is priority or £140 plus VAT for a unit where the first shower to be used becomes priority, from meteorelectrical 👍

[@juicebox22a]

I am literally mesmerized by the difference in electrical work just across the pond! Love the vids of you calling out poor workmanship. I do the same over here in the US......just not on youtube.

[@danieljones8419]

Keep the videos coming pal I don’t know why but I enjoy watching people doing this job and your the only youtuber that I watch doing this work. Great job with the videos and the work you do in general 👍👍 thank you

[@tresslerj1985]

Fixing the cables is to protect fire fighters coming into the building from getting entangled, not people exiting. Nice job. 9.5/10

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

I think it's to protect both, if you remember in the 3rd amendment, it was only wiring along escape routes that required supporting from premature collapsing, that was primarily to protect ordinary persons trying to exit the property. The supporting along the entire run is to protect both firefighters and ordinary persons.

[@Mrfort]

Loved the ( wire) cable tie above the fuse box!

[@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers]

Really enjoyed this video and your others. Please keep them coming.

[@mertguzel3878]

Thank you for your videos it helps me a lot for the future.

[@michaelbrooks4003]

Another great vid Chris. Keep up the great work. Getting loads of tips. Cheers mate

[@Brown969]

Ha! Fitted a Sprint last week and had the EXACT same weeping shower hose out the bottom of the shower. It was like dejavu!! Come on Toolstation!!

[@mrscottfaz]

could you not install a priority switch for the lady with 2 showers?

[@MysticShiv3r]

Nice idea on the DP isolator in the cupboard mate. Saves getting in the loft if anything 😂

[@thumbclicker7173]

Carry on! we’re enjoying 👍 great work.

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

Top job Chris... Good to know I'm not the only one that leaves a few mil gap for trunking bends. I probably would have tried to persuade the customer to have a few lengths of perforated cable tray fitted to support the wiring in the garage.

[@Cjrelectrical]

Yes I might mention it to her it’s bugging me too.

[@argylefan1985]

Just wondering how come you didn’t take the trunking right to the end of the wall after going through to the shower I find it always looks more tidy than just a bit stopping half way across a wall with a stop end on it.

[@persona250]

You could install the 2 x 10 .8 kw showers if you incorporate a shower priority switch

[@wizard3z868]

interesting with that isolator box we have some similar trunking in the sates the only thing i would have drilled for a bushing instead of leaving conductors so close to that jagged edge. keep in mind tho im no professional and can take all day. time is money but workmanship is priceless

[@Stevebriggs293]

Just subbed to the channel, great videos. The plumbing in this video shouts out a DIY job, if he was a plumber, he should retire double quick.

[@TheEcorristine]

Another excellent video, love the tips especially. Every day is a learning day ..

[@apartmentswales]

Hi, this is my 2nd visit to this installation video and a couple of things sort of jumped out at me. The Consumer unit should have their MCB/RCBO Installed from the Greatest Ampere Sizes nearest the Main Switch to the lowest Amp Rated being the furthest away, large loads need to be fed first and a real bonus is that lighting that dims when these loads are being fed can indicate issues. Placing a 50A breaker near the end is not a good idea. Maybe also another good idea where it is not practical to re-configure the Existing Consumer Unit [short cables maybe] is to install a Separate 4 to 6 way Consumer Unit wired direct via a pair of 100A iscol links, Next to the Origianal Board, to then install a Main RCD Switch rated at 30mA/80A and then place a 50A Type B,C or D Series MCB Dependent upon Max Circuit Resistance. Interesting point here is that everyone and their dog selects a Type B Breaker without considering the value of selecting a more suitable one via the Tables in the Wiring Regulations I also noted an extraneous conductive part [Wall to Rafter Metal Tie] next to the Consumer Unit with no earth attached and I doubt that the Garage Doors/Frame had been earthed ! Also omitted was the check to verify if the Bath / sink had been Bonded, bearing in mind this installation appears to be old school regs not having a 2 x Main RCD Split M/C Board affording all circuits with RCD Protection, it needs to comply to the regulations of that time and sure as eggs are eggs this needs checking, also a quick check as to the type and Class of light fitting installed in the Bathroom. Mr Spence Eng April 2022

[@AE-mu1jc]

13:49 In Thailand they use these showers too. But without special on/off switch in cable line, power cable direct to fuse switch. The shower self have a on/off button switch. Why do you need three switches in UK?

[@delspark]

Tidy work, and a new screw tray 👍

[@jaker8795]

That plumbing is criminal

[@richardwash6678]

Love the video Chris, keep up the sense of humour 😂😊👍 great explanation on what you're doing as well.

[@Rosscoff2000]

You could have offered the option of an automatic load priority switch for her to 10.8kW showers.

[@Lyndalewinder]

Another great video - keep em coming!

[@motorone5301]

It's a shame the colleges don't teach the City & Guilds Part C Electrical Installation courses anymore ! Great videos .

[@ef7480]

lovely 'push fit' fittings that won't be trodden on or bashed lol...

[@andychara1631]

another great video mate. keep them coming.

[@adamparkin4791]

Right video mate. Real life stuff just what I need 👍👍

[@train4905]

A superb job sir. Well done.

[@joshpaea8958]

Try use a miter box with a hand saw for the corners. I use mitered corners all the time and it looks mint.

[@wizard3z868]

i being from usa wld have sleeved some pvc conduit thru the block and left not so much of a tight bend out of the hole i think you may have over done the clipping a little but maybe there are different codes on that side of pond. in my area its one clip every 1.2 meters larger cables like those i might go every 1 meter

[@mikerodrigues9091]

Brilliant video mate. Thanks👍🏻

[@louielith3422]

great video mate could you maybe show some of the testing that you do

[@albertsteptoe3710]

Good to see you used trunking this time 😊. Great video and great job 👍👍

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

But did he put any fire clips in the trunking... 🤔 I'm only messing Chris, I wouldn't have in that location 😉

[@Cjrelectrical]

Maybe the firemen will want to rescue the towels?

[@ek6868]

Tanx for the upload plz carry on with the video's and tips.

[@ratgreen]

Mate get a cordless multi tool. Will make cutting those larger squares for knockouts so much quicker and easier

[@countbailiff3120]

Great tip for the neon I didnt realise that, thanks

[@wizard3z868]

everytime i see the top of GB panel boards im amazed we need to use retainer grommets for all of our wire runs you just leave them flopping around on sharp edges although you did add some puddy

[@andrewdonagher6497]

Great video neat install

[@securespark]

That Busbar extension kit is (or was) a kosher MK kit to do just that sort of job.

[@Souped-up-Saiyan]

I love those magnusson wire cutter. Use it all day long for Stripping wires and 25mm meter tails - no problem.

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

I think Screwfix do a pair of cutters for about £10... there's no way I'm paying +£35 for a pair of cutters.

[@JIBS.]

Hi Chris, What size trunking did you use in the cupboard? Thanks

[@michellefoster1020]

It’s so when you put the lid on the switch lid the cables fold into the box neatly

[@benlng1989]

Pipework looks fine. It’s not leaking.

[@ped0000]

Diamond drill bit for holes in pattress box.

[@alexbrooks6435]

New drinking game: 4 shots of tequila every time he says intramescent mastic. Great vid as always mate.

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

He loves a bit of intramescent mastic doesn't he... What ever you do, don't expanding fire foam around him 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@nearlyjuly7990]

Would love for you to show the testing parts and what you do there

[@Cjrelectrical]

Will do

[@aron2015]

Looks good. I need a connection and electronic shower installed. What is the cost for both? BTW I looked and I live in London, you guys are to far away. Not sure if you have locations or workers all over?

[@kobirelf97]

Anything great video keep them coming would be great if they was longer as well love long KZbin videos but definitely one of my favourite guys

[@alfredcanning9053]

Video all over the place

[@skyem123]

Our consumer unit at home looks like a very similar model to the one in this video. The RCD looks (a bit) newer than all the other breakers, though it's still all MK. (though there is also the same hole at the top of the box)

[@traychekitanov8642]

Isn't it better with cooker switch outside instead of pull cord inside the bath??

[@garyalcorn3831]

How you to insulation resistance test with a neon indicator 500v through shower switch?

[@johnwaby4321]

Brilliant as always ... didn't you feel a bit lonely without James 😂

[@andreiiama6369]

Hi, if i have a shaving light above the mirror with a pull cord but i want to change the light to a one that doesn't have a pull cord how will I do it ? i don't have a wall switch for the light is just the pull cord at the moment ? Thanks

[@literoadie3502]

I guess you could put a changeover switch between the supply cable and the two load cables coming from each shower, so only one at a time could be used, but I think that's a bit too out there for a domestic dwelling?

[@lynks123]

I'm a little confused, why are you running mains power into a shower? Is there no central hot water service installed in the U.K? Here in Australia every house has a centralised hot water service, only exception is some units that have a complex hot water service.

[@casper1240]

Question i am now on my 3rd isolating wall mounted Switch the previous one lasted 7 months the first one 7 years when the shower was fitted by a Qualified Spark i normally turn the shower isolating switch off when ive finished showering just wondered if it causes the switch to fuse together if you turn it on anmd off ? the last one i have replaced today the top wire had burnt out and caused the switch unoperable ,the second switch was fitted by another Qualified Spark but this only lasted 7 months i have now fitted a new 45 AMP switch myself as my spark said he was ogff till Jan 6th 19 thanks in advance any ideas

[@meganjperry9489]

You may have made an omission by not installing supplementary equipotential bonding to the lighting circuit or an rcbo on the lighting circuit, since it was not covered by an RCBO or RCD in the consumer unit. 18th Edition regulation 701.415.2, in particular 701.415.2 part V states it can be omitted if all final circuit in that location are protected by and RCD. That didn't seem to be the case?

[@jondonnelly3]

What would happen if you connected up 2 x 10.8kW electric showers on the 100 AMP? and ran them at the same time? Would 2 x 8.5kW be ok as it comes in at 83 amps ? Or is there just no way to have 2 electric showers working in a domestic house? I mean surely that is a problem in any bigish house? Or fit somekind of automatic lockout box that means if one shower is drawing power, the other wont turn on.

[@dansmith436]

2:37 .. plumbers pulled a really nice bend there -_-

[@Ratzfaz]

I'm from Germany and a bit confused about GB regulations. What's up with Zone 0/1 around a shower ? Isn't there this safety Zone, where mains power isn't allowed ?

[@ralphsterz2889]

I think 2 firefighters were killed last year tangled up in fallen down wiring. That's why they've bought in that new reg, makes you think doesn't it!

[@Cjrelectrical]

Yes I totally agree with it but the installers got to use common sense to.

[@raysmith6891]

CJR ELECTRICAL why say it was a load of balls then? Firefighters have died as a result of being entangled in dropped cables. We now receive specific training in how to free ourselves and my brigade now have insulated wire cutters permanently attached to our breathing apparatus sets. Also, one of the priorities at a house fire is to make your way to the cu to isolate it so not having to deal with a nest of cables is always good. Remember that in a fire you have zero visibility and you have to cut and release yourself blind, it's not easy. Rant over. Love the videos.

[@noskills9577]

Looked like an MK pattress and switch, you can chop them about bit - try that with a BG or LAP 😂 good video

[@Cjrelectrical]

Yes both Mk won’t entertain anything less for a shower or cooker.

[@steogorman]

And great clean job by the way.

[@albertsteptoe3710]

Desperately in need of some cable tray in garage for this cables . Shocking leaving them like that whoever the spark was who was their last .

[@Cjrelectrical]

I agree.

[@JayTheSparky]

Thought the same, always hate seeing cables just bunched like that. Loved the twin and screws bunching them into the CU! Another quality video though mate

[@missmarplefan]

what amp breaker did he use ?

[@DerekHundik]

don't buy MOULDED boxes but PVC Conduit Entry Box. They have knock outs and easy to drill.

[@carguillo1]

nice vid mate i wish you was in Epsom all the best/Kev

[@boschkid81]

Out of interest mate, did you cut the wood in the airing cupboard or the trunking to make it fit?

[@Cjrelectrical]

Cut the timber out my way do the trunking is continuous.

[@boschkid81]

@@Cjrelectrical fair play 👍

[@Sparks0001]

For your customer with a 2 shower request, could you connect them via a changeover switch, so only one could be live at a time? Yes, they would have to manually switch it, but that may be better than a no, or an upgrade to three phase?

[@JasperJanssen]

You could, I suppose, but why not an automatic changeover via a contactor?

[@mattrackley6768]

Love this video, nice one mate. Keep up the great work.

[@philiphesden7550]

No conduit through the wall to sleeve the 10mm?

[@yiyodder]

Why? i have never seen anyone do that through a block, stop trying to pick fault's for no reason .

[@yiyodder]

@@doltonddiary8342 UK speed limit 70 mph on a motorway.

[@donnierobertson3088]

Good job

[@kkpropertysolutions3785]

No eirth bypass on the copper pipe?

[@roberthatcher2773]

Nice work!

[@arniewheeler4673]

why don't you sleeve the hole through the wall, protecting the cable?

[@Cjrelectrical]

What am I protecting the cable from? Falling insulation? Anything under 50mm doesn’t require sleeving.

[@pistolpete5189]

I was alway told to stick a bit of conduit through brick walls for cable! Is it not better and takes the same length of time to do?

[@arniewheeler4673]

@@Cjrelectrical i knew that would be your reply. i just find it good practice chap.

[@Cjrelectrical]

Okay wait for the next video 👍

[@arniewheeler4673]

@@rickybeans8504 ' good practice '

[@johnoreilly7052]

I bet the consumer unit is mk and I always have all different types of mcbs and rcbos on me all the time just for the job

[@iotelectrical]

Would you still used the banding straps if the cable was covered by plaster board?

[@Cjrelectrical]

No I would just clip as normal anything covered by building fabric does not apply.

[@CrazySparkie63]

Had the manager of my local pub ask me to install a 10.5Kw electric shower he bought, I tried to explain that it can't be done and a power shower would be the answer (gravity hot and cold water) he ain't 'having it (he tells us he has been an engineer most of his working life Haha). 73 Amp (with diversity) that's just the commercial kitchen + pub + external function room + 3 bedroom flat (with electric cooker) Supply is 100a single phase, and he was an engineer, yeah right!

[@apartmentswales]

Electrical Engineers have test equipment which can monitor Peak Current Consumption over Time, this gives an exact idea of useage, but one should always take onboard change of a Tenant who's needs may be different, but as I have said many times, if Diversity is calculated then 100A will run what appears on paper to be a massive load. The biggest dangers I have seen in the Industry is where Large Cables are Connected to small Cables ie 35mm Tails linked out to 16mm Tails at the Origin, this can and does cause Fires Especially when running large E7 Loadings overnight. Mr Spence Eng

[@CrazySparkie63]

@@apartmentswales Totally agree with you on this matter!

[@apartmentswales]

@@CrazySparkie63 Thanks for your agreement, but come to think of it a I have never seen a Pub unless running from someone's house in West Wales that does not have a 3 phase installation, as the classification of this type of Business is a Commercial Business Mr Spence Eng

[@swiftgames5382]

Great videos thank you.

[@k1100ltwhite]

Rcd protection for the light in that bathroom?

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

He weren't working on the lighting circuit for the bathroom so why would he fit an RCD for it? The installation certificate applys to the installation of a shower circuit and that's it.

[@Cjrelectrical]

I only installed the shower circuit.

[@travoltasbiplane1551]

He's right. If you're not supplementary bonding into existing all circuits need additional protection with 30ma rcd. Special location innit. Whole thing needs to comply not just your addition...

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

I'm pretty sure the pipework for the electric shower doesn't need to be supplementary bonded as the pipe is pvc, all he is required to do is fit a 30mA RCD for the circuit he's installed. What the other electrician did or didn't do to the lighting circuit is he's problem.

[@travoltasbiplane1551]

@@ashmanelectricalservices4318 maybe. But my point is that in a special location you can't just treat your circuit in isolation. By bringing a new circuit into the bathroom you have to consider its interaction with the existing installation to ensure additional protection is provided.

[@johnschlesinger2009]

Nice job. Shame the plumber's is not as good. I don't like the way that pipe is not supported as it runs up in the cupboard. Just an observation: a 100A BS1362 cutout can run 120A for twenty minutes, so, provided there is no electric hob, one might get away with two 10Kw showers, though you're right to advise against it.

[@Cjrelectrical]

The pipe had 3 clips on it not visible as hidden by the new plywood shelving.

[@Dailymailnewz]

Goodman, do you have to install a consumer unit for a shower circuit or can you use an existing one if it has space?

[@peteredwards9147]

It may just be me, but what about earth bonding the water supply pipe to the shower in the cupboard and shower unit. Looking at the pipework in the cupboard, it's feed with 15mm copper, then a 15mm plastic elbow, then what looks like 15mm white plastic pipe, then another 15mm plastic elbow. From this plastic elbow they used 15mm copper pipe through the wall to the shower unit. I would bridge the plastic parts with earth bonding.

[@MRICE-qe4sv]

Enjoy your videos and seeing it done differently. From Texas. Not to sound dumb but is that a hot water heater/water pressure booster? We have nothing like that here I’ve seen..

[@barrybritcher]

Yea most showers here have cold water in. It then heats it and boosts it

[@devonfuse]

Okay, so how about protection of the cable where it passes through the concrete? Looks to me like you forgot about that.

[@timcamm6364]

devonfuse what a nob!

[@jinksonyou]

Very professional job mate! Have to ask tho, what was that that you just installed? I live in Canada and I have a 30 gallon Hot Water Heater in the basement! Cheers

[@1414141x]

Great video Chris, lots of helpful info. Would like to ask why you chose an RCBO rather then just a standard circuit breaker to supply current to the shower. I am not an electrician but a plumber/heating engineer so I do install showers now and again. thanks.

[@Cjrelectrical]

Circuits in a special location ie bathroom need rcd protection

[@1414141x]

@@Cjrelectrical Thanks for your reply Chris. I am a still bit confused as to why you installed and RCBO rather tan just a 50A MCB ? Is there a specific requirement in the regs that specifies a RCBO over an MCB or was it a matter of preference ? Thanks

[@davidodonovan4982]

Wherever possible showers should always be protected by an RCBO, this is a device that does the job of both an MCB, to provide overload protection and short circuit protection, and an RCD to give Earth Fault protection. ... The RCBO is the better option as this gives overload, short circuit and Earth fault protection.