Battle of the Best: Segway Ninebot MAX G2 vs. Okai Neon Ultra - Unbiased Review & Test

[@danceboyktown]

I ride ninebot max g2 in city of los angeles and it is a perfect scooter for commuting…great solid premium build quality, accerlation is fast enough to ride in both sidewalks and car roads, reliability… slight difference in top speed wouldnt really matter…buy max g2

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Thanks for sharing

[@The_Cannabis_Connoisseur]

I agree! Plus Segway is a bigger company with better quality control and there's a reason Amazon does 5 monthly payments with any Segway scooter as long as you have Amazon Prime, but they don't do that with any other e-scooter company!

[@JackyChimm]

Bought mine and got stolen after 3 weeks :(((( so sad it was the best thing i had​@@The_Cannabis_Connoisseur

[@TheAngelboi17]

​@@The_Cannabis_ConnoisseurI heard that this E Scooter overheates but thats all from like 1 year ago, is that still true now?

[@musicmann7891]

@@TheAngelboi17no they gave a software update to fix that

[@knowwherefamous9067]

I ride a Max G2 daily! I absolutely love it! Smooth ride and great performance. I would love something faster but that would be a luxury lol Just crossed the 1000 mile mark on it!

[@mav3818]

How are your tires after 1000 miles? I have a VMAX and its rear tire went bald after 900.

[@knowwherefamous9067]

@@mav3818 My rear tire is definitely looking a bit bald it's something I ill definitely be replacing soon

[@leonardogoodman357]

i love watching your videos since i live in australia and in the state that i live in e-scooters are legal but, it is limited to 25 km/h (15.5 mph) which feels quite slow so i love watching your videos to know how all different scooters preform (i have the MAX G2) 😁

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@JonathanStrome]

I'd be wary of lesser known companies, Segway is an established company not that Okai.

[@goldjoe]

@@JonathanStrome i got an Okai Ultra and have done 400 miles in it and still as awsome as the first time I rode it. Okai is not bad and they already made escooters (Lime scooters are Okai and a lot of rental ones). My Okai neon ultra es40 is doing great!

[@brianmc3479]

Thanks for the information on these as I'm trying to get a scooter I'm looking forward to getting the G2 but I'm going to keep this in mind do to the range is what gets me more then the speed

[@marknowak6683]

I can tell from Vermont here that it is a lot brighter now!

[@goldjoe]

They uodated the app some days ago. Now I have seen 25 and 26 in the speedometer. What you guys said in another video is so true. There has been 3 uodates since I bought it and it feels completely different with the updates as it was at first. Even the brake is not as HARD as it used to be. I love it lol, still hopping for the regen brake control on the mobile and the mileage ajustment. I want to ride at 15, 16 mph sometimes and can do it easily with the throtle but always end up accelerating all the way from time to time. So yea it woulb be great!

[@skiing101]

Great review, thanks! How would the Okai compare to the KQI 300x?

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Oooh, good question. Unfortunately Mitchell tested the 300X and I tested the OKAI. I haven’t ridden the 300X at all since he is in Las Vegas. In the future we plan to have me do all of the testing (which is what we’ve been doing 95% of the time anyway) so we will always be able to compare apples to apples. -Paul

[@BasilisGreen]

you should definitely review the hovermax/evercross h85f 350w, i think its a great budget pick!

[@ReviewsandTech]

Excellent review and comparison as well. I have the Segway Ninebot FSE, so i would imagine the full suspension makes a big difference. I can tell that Segway makes quality scooters too. Thank you again sir.

[@chaxologist2024]

Next must be Apollo Go vs VMAX VX2 Extreme after you review the latter! Same price point, making them head to head contenders! The latter has higher peak power than the former's dual motor for a single motor and is a buffed up version of the VX2 Pro!

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Oh wow, that’s a good idea. You may have just changed the thumbnail of our VX2 Extreme review. I haven’t tested the Extreme yet, but I have been riding it. -Paul

[@king1ny]

Vx pro blows away the apollo solid build quality on v2 love it swiss made. My friend bought two Apollo's and returned both of them and they returned policy is kind of shady.

[@fancypants6089]

Great review as always! Love the comparison videos ! PLEASE REVIEW TEVERUN FIGHTER MINI PRO !!!!’❤

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

I will check it out

[@idrissamorehouse322]

Hmmm although you get some extra range-- for an just $200 you can get a Uscooter GT sport w/ handles that fold in

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

When it comes to speed and portability the GT Sport and Fluid Mosquito are hard electric scooters to beat. The Ninebot MAX G2 and OKAI Neon Ultra have a smoother ride and better traction though. -Paul

[@MrRedLord]

Nice review. What about Apple Find me or Android?

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Not for the OKAI. -Paul

[@zaphnath74]

good rivalry review!

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

@@zaphnath74 thanks so much! I felt like this was the question everyone was going to want answered about the OKAI Neon Ultra: “should I buy this or the Ninebot G2 MAX?” -Paul

[@MedronaSky]

Spend a couple hundred more and get an Ausom Gallop. You wont be disappointed. So much torque and its built like a tank!

[@hyperstimmed]

The reskinned kugoo g3 lol

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

We have not reviewed that brand yet!

[@MedronaSky]

@@hyperstimmed Yes, everyone is aware that its a rebranded KuKirin G3 (not really anything "lol" about that), but its the same scooter and much cheaper.

[@hazzer54]

Here’s a quick question, do you think that soon you could do any reviews on the kugoo kukirin electric scooters as I am thinking about buying one and your channel is my favourite for scooter reviews! (Particularly the kugoo kukirin g3 pro)

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

We’re getting a ton of interest lately, but I don’t think we’ve ever heard from the company. I’ll ask if we have any contacts there. -Paul

[@hazzer54]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Iv seen the brand from gingeronwheels in a few videos and also quite a lot them on TikTok

[@hazzer54]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I think that I might just get the solar p1 3.0. Is the front suspension bad on the solar p1 3.0 or just really stiff?

[@frankbenavidezakakid7734]

I have a okai ultra and love it it's thicker and a stronger build then any other scooter I've seen it's built to last

[@jamescurl4092]

Happy Fourth! I know you said Dualtrons were hard to get, but the Dualtron popular blows both of these scooters out of the water for the same price. 37mph, dual motor, better display, swag lights, 1,300wh battery, lg cells, and on sale for $999. I’ve seen some other people review them, but I’d love to see your in-depth review on it

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Great timing. We just unboxed three small Dualtrons on Tuesday and the Pop is one of them. I’m testing them next week, so we should have a review in less than 2 Weeks. -Paul

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Happy 4th!

[@jamescurl4092]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Nice! It'll be interesting to see what you think of it, it's a neat scooter with the only handicap being the 9" wheels

[@rc-ops]

Another great video

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Thank you so much! -Paul

[@Ronin-ninoR]

so this is basically a test of Okain Neun ultra. Almost no words about Segway

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

We've previously covered the Ninebot MAX G2 (video linked below), but have never tested or reviewed the new Neon Ultra, so you're right, this is our review of the Okai Neon Ultra, but I felt like the most interesting thing to do with a review of the Neon is to spend most of the review comparing it to the scooter most people are going to cross-shop it with, the G2. But I didn't want to re-review the G2 within the video. -Paul kzbin.info/www/bejne/mni8aoOQp8eri6csi=GltChxrv47qlSN9l

[@Teapode]

"It is 2049 now, and if you ask your friends which scooter should you buy, most likely you would hear Ninebot Max" Wonder why Ninebot Max does not have its own Wikipedia page. History of electric scooters in a nutshell: 2000 Razor, 2016 Xiaomi M365, 2019 Ninebot Max.

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

:-) Yeah, it sort of makes sense that the legacy continues because they have the biggest development budget and also the most to lose if they get the next generation wrong. -Paul

[@dustyroads5409]

@Teapode Great response, Seaway has been hamering R&D way longer than the "New Kids on The Block" I'll stick with Tried and True technology ..

[@oMega-sm1eg]

Thank you for making this video! I'm planning to buy the Max G2 but it does snow a lot in my place during winter. I wonder how well would a e-scooter handle snow on the road, like half an inch or even one inch of snow on pavement or sidewalk? I definitely wont be going 20mph in such road conditions, but I do hope it will still be rideable at least. Or would it be better if I buy a fat tire e-bike instead? Also, having Apple find-my is cool but I don't own any Apple device. Does that mean this feature is completely irrelevant for me?

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Should be okay with half an inch snow but be careful in rain or snow. Check the link in description for latest price

[@NENathaniel]

I wish the videos talked about how easy it is to lock & secure, if the digital lock is easily bypassed, etc

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

The NFC key locks and unlocks the scooter, or you can leave it unlocked and just use the power button. You can also lock it with the app. If you mean physically locking it up: Unfortunately leaving a scooter anywhere is risky and the vast vast majority of locks out there can be cut in 1 minute with a cut-off wheel. There are some cutting-wheel resistant locks but they’re in the $200 to $300 range and will resist a good 15 minutes of cutting, plus they will destroy 3 cut-off wheels in the process. We should make a video about the good locks. I tend not to focus on the security measures built into the scooters since none of them are very secure. The one exception being cellular tracking that lets you track and disable your scooter remotely. But only a couple scooters have that. -Paul

[@NENathaniel]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thanks for the explanation! I’ve found a couple scooters are a bit difficult to use most U-Locks with, while some are very easy. Might be worth testing? I like that GOTRAX requires a PIN and is basically non-functional until you put it in (no phone required). Video on locks would be great!

[@terminator7619]

Can we see a video on most comfortable scooters to ride? At different price points?

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Good idea!

[@hyperstimmed]

The front fork on the Okai should be significantly more durable. The G2 owners have been having issues with the front shock piston bending.

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Great feedback. Thanks! First of its kind features are always prone to first of its kind problems, I guess. -Paul

[@shortRAGE]

yes because people think its for riding trails and floating over evey obstacle. The suspension is just for more comfy riding snd not for riding over obstacles with 20mph. I have the g2 max and have 1000km on it and no problems

[@VoltRiderX]

What about the OKAI spare parts. Are there any available like the Ninebot ?

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Should be available!

[@chrisk1255]

*new package arrives that possibly has a scooter in it Me: What's in the box?!?!

[@wobble4204]

Oh and the app function on the neon ultra was fairly buggy for me

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Which function in the app was buggy? The only one I had a weird experience was a beta feature where the scooter turns on when it senses Bluetooth. -Paul

[@wobble4204]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide the beta app has some issues but changing from the different speed displays it would some times freak out and one of the speed displays was way off on the mph compared to the other two

[@goldjoe]

I bought the Okai Neon Ultra and the battery get hot as hell only cruising for 3 miles in 24mph. Is that normal? O and the charger doesnt turn green when it says charge complere. Can you help me with that to?

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

If it was very hot outside then yes!

[@goldjoe]

The charger doesnt change its light to green when the scooter says battery complete. Anything on that? And thank you LOTS!

[@goldjoe]

​@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideits always. Maybe its not made for Puerto Rico's nasty heat like today was 104f. My old 350 wat scooter never got that problem(it was 15.6mph mas )

[@goldjoe]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thank you and sorry for all the questions. You have a new sub from Bayamón, Puerto Rico!

[@goldjoe]

The only thing i dont like about the Okai Neon Ultra is the range in High (24mph) I get like 10 to 14 miles. I never use it to 0% i charge it at 15-20something. I hope thats normal.

[@goldjoe]

Now I get everything I was doing wrong lol. It last so nvm that comment ppl! Greetings from Bayamón, Puerto Rico!

[@ChoJun69]

@@goldjoe what did you do wrong and what did you change? So other could learn and maybe fix it too or improve.

[@goldjoe]

@@ChoJun69 I used to unplugged it when it said charging complete instead of letting the charger turn from red to green. It sound stupid but yea. That way I can use lets say 10% and when I turn it on hours latter is in a 100% again. And I live in Puerto Rico and when its to hot its unevitable for it to drain faster and Ive read that in really cold places is bad too.

[@jbcoker]

Do you have any reviews on the Ninebot F65?

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

We don’t! I really want to cover more of the Segway Ninebot lineup, including the F65, and the P-series electric scooters as well. I think it would take me 6 months to make fresh reviews of them all. I’d love to do it though. -Paul

[@jbcoker]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I just bought the F65 currently charging for the first time. Surprising lack of videos on this scooter on KZbin. Thanks for the quick reply! I really like your channel.

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

@@jbcoker oh man, first rides are the best! Enjoy (once you get it charged!). Let us know how you like it! -Paul

[@jbcoker]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I’m an old man so we’ll see how it goes. 😬

[@capcom4eva]

@@jbcokerhow’d it go?

[@wobble4204]

So the the battery on the neon ultra I bought stoped charging after 4 days and the top speed was 28mph not 22 but I returned it due to bad battery it’s too bad because the ride felt nice and smooth

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

That’s really strange, because the firmware limited speed on ours is 24mph with the wheels off the ground, free spinning. Do you mean yours spun up to 28mph with wheels off the ground, or did you see 28 indicated while riding? -Paul

[@wobble4204]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I believe I changed the top speed in the app if memory serves

[@ZZTalkZZ]

I need to watch your hill climb video again… Got the unagi voyager for a test… over heated and failed to go up two hills: with all honesty i can go around. Id say its the minimum viable option for me… Note: Bus max weight is 55lbs (bike rack or carry on) according to local laws (im trying to change.) can you do a round up with weight of scooter? Im thinking >40, 40-69, 70-99, 100+ LBs as categories. Im trying to change the 55lbs to +70lbs legally due to the majority of cheap e-bikes being 60-80lbs.

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Great to know about the weight limit. I didn’t know that. Thanks. How long were the hills you were climbing? Do you know how steep? (% wise). -Paul

[@ZZTalkZZ]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide the ride home from bus station is a 400ft elevation change over a 1.5mil one way trip but my need will be 1,000ft of elevation over 8 mile total trip.

[@goldjoe]

Update: I bought the Okai Neon Ultra and it fricking awesome!!!!! Going at 24mph feels great! I recommend this scooter to anyone!

[@cadebeek3111]

When we getting that full review of the RX7?

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Should be next week!

[@menderesazar]

Segway maxg2 bende var çok memnunum sorunsuz bir şekilde işe gidip geliyorum.. İstanbul dan selamlar sevgiler

[@TheCptPepper]

They should really change the top speed rating from 24mph to 22mph. I've read alot of customer reviews and no-one can get up to 24mph.

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Noted!

[@goldjoe]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide i get to 24mph with it. Not all the time but a lot.

[@homieclix]

Would the okai be any good for doing doordash food orders?

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Should be fine! Check the link in description for latest price.

[@emilyblossom2769]

Does the fact that your Ninebot isn’t new change these results in any way?

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

No our Segway is almost new!

[@sunnykundi2479]

What about the NIU KQI 300X?

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

We haven’t tested it yet. Mitchell should have a review out very soon. -Paul

[@sunnykundi2479]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Awesome! I’m looking forward to it!

[@MohamedAbouzaid-it6gz]

Still waiting for that kqi3 300x review...

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Mitchell is working on it. Soon! -Paul

[@guy-t7b]

you didnt do a Unblocking for the Max G2

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

For our tests, we'll use the app to turn performance all the way up. We'll use P-settings, but we won't use any hacks which could violate the warranty. We use the same standard for all testing on all scooters?

[@paradiseowji]

Which one should I get for my boyfriend’s birthday? Ninebot G2 OR NIU kqi 300x? I like the look of NIU better, but Ninebot has rear suspension. HELP 😅😩

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Can’t go wrong with the Segway max! Check the link description for latest pricing.

[@stephenreeves-v5b]

I had a bad experience with the okiascooter the latch system while riding it’s a good thing I was wearing a helmet there is a fault with the bolt system it will unlock while riding

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@nickg31224]

Okai scooter is better for sure. Plus its a 48v battery 🔋

[@matthewdenham7398]

Ninebot will do

[@Zuid5314]

Is there any way for the Segway g2 to convert from eu to usa ? In eu there is no option for 22 mph and no cruise control.. Speed hacks ?? New controller?? Can someone pls help ?!!

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

We test all scooters with OEM

[@louisdinter4791]

Add more volts and do somethings with the controller scooterhacking utility is your friend

[@Zuid5314]

Eu version is same volts and controller as the US right?.

[@AnontheGOAT]

lol what’s with the grunt on every scooter launch Paul?

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

👀

[@AnontheGOAT]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide huuu ughhhhh!!! 😂

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

@@AnontheGOAT it’s me kicking off as hard as I can. It’s part of the test procedure. Though the grunt isn’t explicitly part of the S.O.P. -Paul

[@andrewwhite1065]

You are braver than me... no gloves.

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Haha yea! Don’t try this at home

[@noamcohen7737]

What about the inokim quick 4 new version

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Decent scooter

[@mav3818]

I'll keep my VMAX VX2 PRO GT I got for $809

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Great scooter. Tons of power! -Paul

[@benjaminadames7266]

OKAI scooter felt great but the app is awful had to return it and get an Apollo air

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

What sort of problems did you have with the app. To me it doesn’t have a ton of features but also wasn’t getting in my way like it can on some scooters. -Paul

[@George_M_]

Glad you missed the snake.

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Me too! -Paul

[@abezeke9100]

I am buying Emove Cruiser, do you have a link I can buy through it? Thanks in advance

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

geni.us/Cruiser use Code RIDERGUIDE for $50 OFF

[@franklinwoodden]

$999 and you just get a rinky-dink bell.. c'mon Okai.

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

👀

[@50kArchipelagos]

More laughable readouts. I've taken a pass on about 10 scooters because of their display. Battery is most important but they insist that maybe riding companions would say "I got to 5.9 mph up that grade. Dude, you beat me, I got to 5.7, we could have gotten speeding tickets!" What a crock. Meanwhile they couldn't see their childish displays with the critical sunglasses on anyway - because the display is blue or green in full sun with sunglasses, completely invisible. Serious riders want white on black everything. When you're pushing that puppy on a dead battery the passing motorists aren't going to wonder if your tiny green invisible battery level indicator wasnt noticed because you didn't stop to take your glasses off and bend over to make shade to see it every mile or so. They're going to know you bought an insufficient set of circumstances at whatever level. Manufacturers: That 7 year old doesn't buy the machine. Tackle serious matters seriously. White displays, largest should be battery percentage, in numerics, speed in bars, you've got it all backwards.

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@space.cowboyyyyy]

Segway Ninebot MAX G2 better for sure.

[@jeduwardovega6239]

I don't think nothing can beat the Kugokirin G4 it's only $899 with a 2000 watts motor and looks better in my opinion 😉

[@ImReadyAyu]

That scooter is not even UL Certified and uses cheap Chinese batteries. Wouldn't trust it for long term. There is a reason why a lot of the top reviewers for scooters don't review them

[@yarlsanchious]

@@ImReadyAyuexactly

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

We have not tested that brand!

[@capcom4eva]

@@ImReadyAyuwhat batteries do you think the ninebot max g2 uses? I don’t think it’s name brand cells.

[@ctvx]

its just a g2 with a worse handlebar and pretty much a copy

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Thanks for the feedback. What do you like better about the G2 handlebar? -Paul

[@ctvx]

@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide the entire handlebar itself

[@ctvx]

​@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuidethe front of the Okai looks like a Ninebot SNSC

[@n9ivo6n46]

firsttt

[@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide]

Thanks for commenting! -Paul