Elfilin the VILLAIN?! [Kirby and the Forgotten Land Villain Theory]

[@Shadex_Joestar]

We Kirby fans have serious trust issues after Marx and Magolor

[@vincenzomagnifico6973]

FUCKING TRUE

[@mahoushoujodoinky]

Truer words could never be spoken.

[@kirbmaster9405]

agreed

[@Murr248]

TBF, Magolor wasn't really himself when he was possesed by the crown, and Marx was incredibly shady from the start

[@Sigismund697]

Kirby taught me to trust no one SPECIALLY is they claim to be friends and are egg shaped

[@Murr248]

I don’t necessarily think he’ll be evil. Since he’s constantly traveling with Kirby rather than waiting and biding time like Magolor and Marx did. People also need to remember Kirby has had Allies like him. Prince Fluff, The Magic Paintbrush, Mr. Star, Elline, and ESPECIALLY Ribbon all come to mind In addition, Marx was shady from the start since he "Conveniently" appeared at just the right time, and knew exactly what to do despite not helping the player at all. Magolor is a lot less sketchy but if you speak to him too many times while he's in the Lor Starcutter he'll get nervous and impatient with the player and changes to a slightly more demanding tone From the screenshots we've seen, Elflin has an introduction far more similar to Ribbon and Eline

[@reggielacey2235]

He could be following Kirby for a reason

[@bethaniemartin2409]

You have a point

[@braydenroth2735]

Why would such a cute cyan rodent like Elfilin be so evil? He would never just literally stab Kirby at the back with a knife, now would he?!

[@frokydafroakie]

@@braydenroth2735 no thats too violent they should show him committing mass genocide with a giant laser

[@braydenroth2735]

@@frokydafroakie That's even worse.

[@2011supergamer]

I always thought the implication with Magolor was that he was genuinely in need of Kirbys help, but once they reached Halcandra, he became corrupted by the crown's influence and couldn't resist it.

[@leedlelel2373]

No offense but That makes 0 sense He explained that the betrayal was all planned from the beggining, which is why the lor landed on popstar And also the posession of the crown only happens in his 2nd phase

[@Murr248]

@@leedlelel2373 Actually it does make sense for a couple reasons 1. Magolor stated his plan when he was being controlled by the crown, making it unclear whether this was the truth or a lie. Even if it was the truth, he still seems to have a soft spot for Kirby, thanking him for repairing his ship 2. If Landia was losing its grip on the crown, so was Magolor, and MUCH faster as his mind was weaker. So he was being controlled from the start

[@leedlelel2373]

@@Murr248 false, the pause descriptions make it completely clear he was in control of the crown until the 2nd phase, plus, the crown didnt have some evil in it and landia was NEVER said to have been losing control of the crown Heres how it works The crown can be used for good or evil, landia protected it, magolor wanted the crown to rule the universe, so it had bad intentions, and so his desires took control of him in his final moments If you still dont believe me, he literally built a theme park because hes sorry for betraying kirby, if he was actually controlled by the crown, he wouldve been like "ohmagash kirb im suz surry but the eeevil crown took control of my beautiful head" Still STILL dont believe me? Shinya kumazaki mentions in an interview that at the end of the magolor fight he doesnt die, but instead is "forgiven" by time and space or something

[@bun2041]

@@leedlelel2373 bro bro bro that's enough proof😂😂 the first to second paragraph is already a strong proof

[@shockwave3864]

@@leedlelel2373 You are right however he landed on pop star because he tried to take the crown by himself at first. He DID actually need kirby’s help but he was just manipulating him into doing everything.

[@tmak7345]

I think one connection that could be possible is that Elfillin is related to the main lion villain in some way, as Elfillin sort of looks like a mouse and, given the fact that the main villain is possibly a lion, this could be a reference to the lion and the mouse story. Knowing this we coan infer that Elfillin is trying to save the lion from maybe another evil force. Also Elfillin’s ears are in the shape of a broken heart, implying that the lion betrayed Elfillin due to being possessed leading Elfillin to hate the lion. Similar to how Claycia was possessed by the Dark Crafter and betrayed Elline. Just some connections I made.

[@matthewburke3193]

#lore

[@ASmarterThanAverageSeel]

😵‍💫

[@RyougiShikiMEODP]

Consdering how animal related this game is, I think the Butterfly might be the final boss.

[@leedlelel2373]

@@RyougiShikiMEODP butterflies are insects, we already had the theme of insects in triple deluxe But anyways i would like more lore for morpho so lol

[@RyougiShikiMEODP]

@@leedlelel2373 Sectonia is a wasp/bee.

[@epicdvb3931]

Kirby has always taught us if something looks cute and innocent they are most likely evil

[@mrosilvR7]

Lol

[@crabtank9039]

When I first played return to dream land I said to myself kill anything that looks cute

[@kirbyfreakyt4695]

Fun fact! Gooey is *made* of evil! It's entirely made up of Dark Matter! Doesn't mean it's not a good guy but yeah everything adorable is probably evil in one way or another.

[@crabtank9039]

@@kirbyfreakyt4695 Kirby is dark matter so does that mean that zero is Kirby distant relative

[@kirbyfreakyt4695]

@@crabtank9039 Void may be a distant relative to Dark Matter and Kirby, but I've seen no evidence to hear that Kirby is a Dark Matter.

[@Orkunkadunk]

Nintendo fans: *remembering the floating cat head things* cute means evil…right?

[@nerdmetall]

Scarfy when you tried to eat him:

[@plantimations1232]

This is what happens EVERY TIME when HAL decides to add a cute creature that acts as your friend And now the fandom will never forget

[@mageofshadow]

I too rememeber when Ribbon, Elline and Prince Fluff betrayed us.

[@Empy_C.]

@@mageofshadow Those don‘t count.

[@1Thunderfire]

@@Empy_C. How do they not count?

[@Empy_C.]

@@1Thunderfire because i said so

[@bubbykins4864]

​@@Empy_C. Why did you say so?

[@mcreedance]

Is this the definition of "well yes, but actually no"

[@matthewweinberg633]

Pretty much.

[@TBTabby]

You, and many other people, owe Elfilin an apology.

[@davidmockler7241]

Yes he’s the most good character in the game

[@55twintv39]

We agree. We played the entire game.

[@Timprincess]

Same gave him a Nick name too elfi that's what I call him

[@The0KUltra]

Some of the theories I see in the comments are valid, definitely in the realm of possibility. I personally think Elfilin isn't the main bad guy atm because of his apparent status as Kirby's companion throughout the game. Marx and Magalor acted as friends but waited for Kirby to do the hard work for them so that they could easily turn the tables. They never journeyed with you. Elfilin's role seems similar to Ribbon in Crystal Shards, and she wasn't evil. While this could go in various ways, my current stance is that Elfilin is not evil but I I understand why people are suspicious lol

[@AblazeKing7]

I have a feeling Elfilin, is a part of it or is the main one. But another part of me feels like Elfilin has nothing to do with the kidnappings. But since this game will have some really dark lore behind it. I feel like there’s more to it.

[@youraverageplutoenjoyer7677]

Welp. Not to get into spoilers, but, we were both right and wrong at the same time.

[@warriorwolf8593]

The sad thing is this is actually the exact opposite of what happens

[@Shaprite]

I think it is possible Elfilin is the villain, but then it could just be Nintendo trying to trick us. Elfilin is an animal-based character so he could be the mastermind or maybe he could be in similar role to Olivia in Paper Mario: The Origami King and he wants to stop the Beast Pack from kidnapping the Waddle Dees. Which would explain why he was locked up.

[@nerdmetall]

Same here. When I saw the rat's ears look like a butterfly, and with everyone being marx'd and magalor'd before, I assumed that he/she/they/it is sus

[@usermcskull4713]

The butterfly appears in both trailers, there's even more than one in the second trailer

[@kyubeyz_7062]

I’ve been really disagreeing with the “elfilin is the bad guy” assumption but this actually makes sense and idk what to think about it anymore

[@plooper14]

I feel like it’s pretty obvious that the “bad guys” are wild animals that are going to end up being good in the end

[@whoasked376]

6:01 Marx just was hungry and wanted to control dream land to get a bunch of food. 6:26 the crown controlled magolor and made him evil.

[@aarizm1758]

I hope he's a good guy. its been too long since kirby made a friend that didn't try to kill him at least once. Last time kirby made a friend that never tried killing him (not on purpose) was Adeline from Kirby 64.

[@cupio-stardust]

What about Elline from Rainbow Paintbrush?

[@Yipper64]

8:34 what if theres a butterfly for each star that summons nova? Each star in that summoning sequence had a different color. Morpho Knight is red, and this one is blue.

[@originalnameoriginallastna4266]

Kirby fans when they see anything small and cute "Villan, despicibal no gooder. Will backstab me with my 9 dragonballs."

[@mahoushoujodoinky]

I believe that if Elfilin is gonna be evil, it's not gonna be out of his own choice. Perhaps he gets blackmailed into battling Kirby at some point down the line?

[@aml-001new3]

I guess you were right.

[@leahcrystalcat4411]

No, you were wrong.

[@arcanine_enjoyer]

@@leahcrystalcat4411 they're technically right if blackmail means being shoved into the final boss

[@Bokokirby]

I think that elfelin will have a similar role to taranza, being bad and then eventually helping kirby take down the lion.

[@megameme29]

One of my theories is thay elfelin is actually pretty weak and while the big animal gang are bad guys, they're just the big bullies of the streets, picking on all the little guys untill elfelin had enough and found a way to make kirby believe that the gang is the most evil thing in the world and at the end after the lion ling is defeated, elfelin gets the crown and with his new power as king he orders everyone to destroy kirby now that he dosent need him anymore.

[@kratosmessi649]

I wanted to see something like "kirby's partner was part of a species that was harrasing the species of the main antagonist and now that other species is hunting him down but turns out he wasn't like the rest of this species and didnt want to hurt them" yeah thats a strech but I like it

[@coronadesert]

Intriguing theory Nin10doland! ❤️

[@mrosilvR7]

Agreed

[@grayanddevpdx]

You were about 50% right and 50% wrong.

[@topazmaskian1946]

literally only two people betrayed us, and the mouse is traveling with him instead of biding his time. LOOK AT PATTERNS OF PARTNERS

[@kingshawn6982]

This could be the case. I think the villain could be either a long lost relative to DeDeDe or a cousin to Daroch. Think about it the Wolves in the trailer are capturing Waddle Dees maybe theres a rivalry of some kind happening?

[@sh2619-v9h]

if Kirby's companion is evil that will be a very interesting plot twist Kirby had other companions in his games and they were never evil

[@freechicken4928]

Magalor.

[@Savariable]

@@freechicken4928 they are most likely either joking, or they are referring to the companions that actually traveled with kirby. Unlike marx and magalor who just made kirby do all the work. There has not been a betrayal from anyone working alongside kirby, just from characters who made kirby do the work.

[@saradavies7027]

Every final boss in the Kirby series looks like Kirby and this is no exception he just has some mouse and butterfly aspects but he is definitely a member of the Kirbyspecies and aside from Kirby himself all members of the Kirby species seem to attack the main character Kirby is this is a member of the Kirby species then it’s probably going to have some god level transformation that turns it into a divine creature of universal power

[@ultramatum0]

The cage looks like the master crown Could it be the same material Could they be also created by Void Termina Are the Beasts corrupted by the Cages

[@sheldonakintoye5480]

The crown on the cage has a more generic design compared to the master crown, so I'm pretty sure it's just a normal cage.

[@RyougiShikiMEODP]

@@sheldonakintoye5480 The crown indicates the Lion is just a king more than anything. (Since the cage is the shape of a Lion’s head.)

[@professornova1236]

Honestly, the cages being made from the same material as the master crown is a really interesting concept.

[@iaminpain.]

What if Kirby gets possessed by the butterfly and efflin has to go and save him along with bandana dee near the end of the game?

[@amogusus4684]

The butterfly tried that a few times. It didn’t work. Aka when the butterfly lands on him in trailers

[@sahilhossian8212]

Hmm thanks mr.obvious

[@DDDTJ]

@@amogusus4684there is literally no proof Morpho tried to consume Kirby

[@AndroidHarris]

I think he will be part of the story but if it'll be in some way connected to the squeak squad then I think elfilin will join the squeaks as its navigator or something by the end.

[@ceruledge7934]

Due to marx and magalor almost killing kirby so yeah we don't trust anyone

[@jonathanlatoni8]

Nin10doland: Susie and Taranza were villains that turned good. Magalor: Am I a joke to you? Magalor also turned good, was the first villain to do so if you believe That DDD and Meta Knight were more like anti-heroes back in the old games, and unlike Susie and Taranza, he actually gave Kirby a gift to apologize, he made Kirby his own theme park. Anyway good theory!

[@greensoda123]

The Ferocious Beast Pack sounds more like a DLC Expansion pack then an actual boss or gang name.

[@thedraftingax5963]

I knew it! Even though he looks innocent, but it turns out that he was a villain all this time and was behind the kidnapping of the waddle dees!

[@jeshuarestituyo284]

It's a theory you we still not sure

[@doodleboi6]

You don’t “know” anything yet it’s a theory lmao

[@skyhero6236]

Spoiler Wrong he is a lab experiment and he does nothing wrong

[@Dkirbs109]

@@skyhero6236 Again spoiler... Yeah it was kind of like sort of villain but not really kind of thing

[@dashyburd]

All of you owe Elfilin an apology.

[@Unbounded.]

Absolutely. They were so mean with him :(

[@jacobtheorangeyoshi8710]

Normal people: Aww a new mascot Kirby fans: ok so what abomination god form will it have by the end of the game and how far will they go with it?

[@caseyp8173]

Very intriguing theory you covered so far, NintendoLand. I honestly think that Elfilin is actually the sidekick, rather than being revealed as a treacherous turncoat that is behind everything in the trailer or pulling the strings to drive the plot. I really think that the thing here is that the entire Beast Pack IS the main antagonist and the whatever lion thing is, is the ACTUAL main antagonist. That is what I think. We will have to wait and see what more info Nintendo will share regarding on who is the main antagonist in Kirby and the Forgotten Land as well as more further info about the game as we get closer to its release in March. 👍

[@sahilhossian8212]

Maybe ecto forgo

[@Matias-fh2hf]

Theres also gooey on the good side,along with the animal friends

[@Sigismund697]

There's no doubt in my mind that that heart shaped little cute rabbid/squirrel is EVIL incarnate

[@Unbounded.]

LMAOOOOOO how could you think that Elfilin is evil? He's absolutely cute! >:c You should apology him.

[@Fectoelfilis27]

Man how wrong we were

[@FectoGiratyna]

T r u e

[@MinhTran-pd1tl]

Elfilin: I was evil all along! Everbody: wow what a surprise....

[@GodIAdore]

I bet you felt bad when you realized that he was a baby boy, not a villain. He sacrificed his life for Kirby and planet Pop Star.

[@DeusAnima]

out of all the villains in the kirby franchise (not counting spin offs), only marx and magolor really betrayed kirby (not counting good characters that were possessed even in secret like Fairy queen from 64), in fact, it is more likely that the villain will really just be the villain (zero, sectonia etc), or they will end up having good / neutral intentions from the start (Dedede in nightmare in dreamland / Daroach in squeak squad), and that's if they don't change their mind by the end of the game (taranza / susie). what i'm saying is: it only took TWO twist villains, in TWO games (three if you count super star and super star ultra as different games) to make the entire kirby fandom have trust issues

[@JezElectro13]

I think he will use us to defeat suposed vilans to be like "this time big suprise for anime betreyal ey'?"

[@Ghosthazard96]

Has anyone remembered in that mouthful mode scene that Kirby's left eye turn green for a moment? And it is the same color green as elfilin.

[@hatbros4463]

Elfilin looks like a mouse and if the main villain is a lion it could be like the story of the lion and the mouse

[@ChaosSonic6683]

It’s the incarnation of the devil it’s self

[@susiehaltmann3342]

Wow this theory was kind of correct

[@pptoni064]

Imagine if Elfilin was like the villian, and he was like the son of the interdimensional god that wants to destroy the whole universe, you know, just like your regular kirby final boss

[@ILikebread70]

I think, sometimes comments don’t load in time

[@rjs4176]

I do NOT like Elfilin's official render. It makes me viscerally uncomfortable. It reminds me too much of those hyperrealistic close up shots of spider faces. With their terrifyingly detailed hair and their eyes being unreflective black orbs of death. The less I look at that render the more hope that I have that this little flying mouse thing is hopefully a friend.

[@Unbounded.]

LMFAOOOO DID U REALLY THINK THAT ELFILIN IS EVIL? IS EXTREMELY CUTE HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT TO HIM!!

[@nlvideogamedemosdevelopmen7034]

100% with you on the unknown boss/Ripper Roo comparison

[@evagarcia865]

Its entire design has been shown in the new trailer. Still looks like ripper roo It’s name is Sillydillo

[@EmikaYamane7521]

New Kirby character: *Exist* People: Yup, they're evil

[@frythefish2040]

Ive been holding out on the fact that Elfilins design is a Sphere Doomerish shape and Another Dimension is how Kirby got transported to the forgotten land

[@MistaCoconutTheClassic]

“ look at this devious little creature up to no good “

[@MacDaddyYuunity]

coming back to this video just to post he was never evil bam

[@SuperGamefreak18]

uhm remember Magolor didn't crash his ship he attempted to fight landia for the crown and lost...said battle resulting in his ship crashing.

[@mariomaster101official]

Wow this is interesting

[@yukuzoichkarmovioc8189]

Elfilin is cute, is tiny, does not look evil at all, so he is the villian pretty much.

[@Unbounded.]

LMFAOOOOOO DID YOU REALLY THINK THAT ELFILIN IS THE VILLAIN? MAN LOOK AT HIS EYES, IS SO CUTE!!!!!!! And you are so mean with him.

[@GoatMinori]

I think Its One of these: Bandana waddle dee and elfilin Bandana:Can Attack kirby, cool to be able to fight (Espesially 2player), Never gets talked to, Ignored and Maybe takes away his friends to get more attention. Elfilin: Whatever you Said.

[@pptoni064]

Poor elfilin, everyone thinks he is the villian, and I couldn't agree more

[@Unbounded.]

LMFAOOOOOO did u really think that Elfilin is evil? Man you owe him an apology, he's so cute!

[@atsilv]

So in other words: kirby friend is not kirby friend, again

[@TheOnlyDJSonk]

I think Elfilin will be a bit like Bowser Jr from Bowser's Fury

[@kirbyblazter5627]

the figure for and elfilin disprove this, as it states that elfilin is kind hearted.

[@kirbyblazter5627]

btw I am aware that this was made before the game was released, so you didn't know that

[@colindion4611]

Elfilin is confirmed is no the villian but a part of the main villian. He one half of the main villian

[@matthewwilliams8267]

He's the good half.

[@Khyon521]

Either Eli is gonna be The villain in the end, save Kirby in the end via sacrifice

[@QUL-bs6oi]

if you've learned anything from the kirby series, it's gotta be this trust no one

[@sahilhossian8212]

Not even god nor ourselves

[@HawkeGaming]

I think that Elfilin will be the horrific abomination that we'll fight at the end of the game. But I think that the Beast Pack might actually be run by Dedede, who is actually trying to help by returning the Waddle Dees to Dreamland or something. That's why they tried to capture Elfilin and why Elfilin is tricking kirby into thwarting them.

[@Unbounded.]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO DID U REALLY THINK THAT ELFILIN IS EVIL? MAN HE IS SO CUTE YOU WERE ABSOLUTELY WRONG LOL, HOW CAN YOU BE THAT MEAN WITH HIM? SAY: "I'M SORRY" TO ELFILIN.

[@StarBeam500]

I think the lion will have some being higher up controlling him, so we think the lion is the final boss, (and by we I don't actually mean we think that I mean that's what non-kirby fans think, and what we are supposed to think.) But then it's like "oh no! It's not the lion! It's another nova!"

[@amogusus4684]

And suddenly there are millions of novas

[@StarBeam500]

@@amogusus4684 that seems to be their go-to if not using a demon, and due to theories, I would belive nova would be more likely than a demon.

[@foxystudiosuwu8264]

Then what will Kirby use as his final weapon like he normally does in many Kirby games?

[@StarBeam500]

@@foxystudiosuwu8264 he will eat a warpstar and become star-mouth kirby. In this form he will take down the nova In all honesty though, it will probably depend on the form he takes at the end of the game. It will probably be a mouthful ability because most of the game ending things are seen to a lesser degree throughout the game, which I would personally be disappointed about.

[@foxystudiosuwu8264]

@@StarBeam500 Possibly…

[@rausanrau9881]

Literaly almost everyone is expecting it to be the villan, like, you are not adding anything new

[@Ghosthazard96]

Also with the whole bad guys being themed around beasts, i wonder if that flare lion boss from nightmare in dreamland and kirby super star ultra would be included in this?

[@Bmusella]

Yup many people think that Ellfin is bad but he is Very nice😇

[@Fire_Oasis_Gaming]

He is epic.

[@Jacob_G9]

I am So Sorry Elfilin, you are just a precious bean.

[@primodesmile634]

*Bean*

[@catn4426]

I love how he makes weary good theories when the game didn’t come out when this video released

[@catn4426]

Elfilin is not evil

[@catn4426]

The lion is and bad guy but not the final boss

[@catn4426]

Elfilin is a half of ID-F86 or Fecto Forgo

[@catn4426]

It possesses the lion

[@catn4426]

When you defeat him Fecto forgo escapes and eats some of the enemies and chases kirby

[@matthewgaming2408]

Yeah, I'm betting it's actually some DIFFERENT character for the main antagonist for the game

[@RosesArePink210]

it almost feels like hes royalty in some way being overthrown. it makes sense because why else capture him? either he was against what has been happening or a leader of his kind or all.

[@KGTstudios]

Why do I have a feeling Elfilin or the Mastermind of it all may turn into a God of destruction and have his soul ripped out of its mortal body?

[@cookiepuka9300]

I trust them because they have arms

[@quiche497]

not like every new unseen small helpless character in a kirby game that tries to hide it is a villain and the final boss

[@ASmarterThanAverageSeel]

Eldritch horror

[@justinukah7441]

Even though the main bosses are probably animal based, dollars to donuts there’s a good chance we’ll be seeing Kracko down the line

[@donovanmahan2901]

How would beeg cloud's spinning beam attacks work in 3D?

[@franzicoy]

@@donovanmahan2901 replace it with actual lightning strikes. Kirby: Right Back At Ya had the lightning strikes come from several streams of lightning come out of his spikes (1 stream per spike) that combine to make a lightning bolt, so I don't think there will be any difficulty. The only problem is that Kracko's deadliest position is up front, by his eye, since the anime had the lightning streams combine over his eye, and I think most copy abilities allow you to flank enemies & bosses.

[@SmashBros1235]

Spoilers: after beating the game this aged like milk.

[@michaelfuentes4262]

You’re half right

[@Amogus567]

i like how kirby fans have had atleast 5+ good allies but 2 villains trying to look like allies is all it takes to develop major trust issues with kirby fans, like what the heck he is a tiny mouse that can fly what can he do

[@Amogus567]

also the one sentence he read meant that you were just saving waddle dees with elflin

[@JENIGLES7]

9:00 Its heird how the first depiction of evil Elflin is a picture of a biblical angel

[@Pizza-gremlin]

Kirby forgotten lands: seems like that ice planet from Kirby 64 unfroze, the ice plant was earth

[@ironkeepgaming1936]

Crows are a omen of death, so maybe a crow necromancer, maybe linked to dark matter

[@jjonhopter4255]

I can't wait to see how hellish the design of the main antagonist is

[@eturnatis4019]

I'm watching this after I played the full game and I love the picture of a giant crow instead of Fecto Forgo

[@maplario4366]

Oh no- IT’S CUTE! THAT’S BAD NEWS..

[@CharaTheChoccyLover]

Elfilin is a separated part of the villain but elfilin still helped him

[@beatlejuice1165]

I mean, his name sounds like “elf-villain”.

[@goatsanimations4480]

Very cute looking character in Kirby: Exists Kirby fans: Not today Satan

[@spark9372]

Elfilin. El-filin. El-Villian. The Villian. If it isnt a pun for a villian i will be upset