Elgato HD60S+ vs HD60S: Everything you need to know

[@MidnightMan]

Big thanks to Crayton TV and Joanna for being a feature in this video, both of you are wonderful people 😊 remember to go check out their channels linked in the description. Also, another big thanks to @MLozada for sending me the HD60S+ (not a sponsor) to test and compare with the HD60S. I hope you guys learned something from this video you can change or apply to your own setups! More videos coming in the future, the grind don't stop! Have a wonderful day. ✌🏽🤙🏽 Edit: Just to be clear about the capture cards, if you already own the HD60S and you use Windows to stream I do not think the upgrade is worth it, but if you are on Mac, own the HD60, or do not own a capture card at all, I HIGHLY recommend getting the HD60S+.

[@indianvillagelover6712]

hello bro , i have leptop proceser is i3 4th generation and 4 ram , windows 7 and i play pubg mobile i want to streaming but elgado 60hd s+ is support to my leptop and my android mi max 2 mobile please tell me because i want to purchase elgado s+ ?

[@McV1llaiN]

Just bought the 60s+ and a laptop... With a hope and a dream.... And a shot in the dark. With a hope and a prayer hope i can bring enjoyment and a place to meet other gamers and over all good place and good vibes. Much luck to all those just starting

[@KrisPrinceRaps]

How's it going?

[@mr.austinn6835]

This actually helped so much. Im about to start streaming on twitch, and this was something I was unsure of. This is amazing

[@abukhan3391]

Same aswell hope it goess well for us good luck

[@indianvillagelover6712]

hello bro , i have leptop proceser is i3 4th generation and 4 ram , windows 7 and i play pubg mobile i want to streaming but elgado 60hd s+ is support to my leptop and my android mi max 2 mobile please tell me because i want to purchase elgado s+ ?

[@Jrizzie4]

What did you decide on?

[@mr.austinn6835]

@@Jrizzie4 HD60S+, just to be safe. It handles both onboard(PC) and console streaming REALLY well, so I feel pretty safe with the purchase lol

[@galleryboy4a]

Are you using pc or Mac? I’m probably gonna buy a pc because all these problems he’s talking bout are way less frequent on pc

[@smivadee]

Love this bro! Thanks for the detailed explanation. Like you I’m on my Mac and always got that delay. Off to buy the S+ !

The delay was caused by the buffering. You can disable that on properties from the video device on OBS.

[@KillerGrim47]

How?

[@TechSantos]

Been having audio delay issues in Mac for eeeever, thanks for the video. Just what I needed!

[@StunningAutumn]

do these both work on macbooks?

[@alonzzo0777]

Amigo qué haces acá ??? Jaja ventajas de hablar 2 idiomas XD saludos !!

[@S8BASTIAN]

There’s hundreds of videos like this but you were the only one who explained everything clearly! Thank you!

[@advantingaming]

Dude this just got uploaded, but i've been waiting for one of these from you. Clutch!

[@MidnightMan]

I'm here for you!

[@advantingaming]

@@MidnightMan My Man! If you got a second, I got the HD60S+ last week and am trying to capture my audio with my game audio as well. I have only figured out how to capture all other audio, excluding my own. I use a SteelSeries Artic 7 headset with the wireless feature. Any tips?

[@newtgaming3666]

agreed

[@MidnightMan]

@@advantingaming You need second microphone, you cannot use your headset to talk to friends and record on stream at the same time.

[@rjt1991]

So I just noticed when using my xbox one x, i cannot change settings to 1440p while using the hd60 s, is it true that the hd60s+ will let me turn my settings back to 1440p? It really sucks because i just spent 600$ on a monitor and am stuck using 1080 :(

[@STEVENESKE]

Really appreciate you putting so much info out there regarding streaming from a Mac. I'm not alone!

[@BLamb]

Just made the decision to upgrade from my current HD60 that I've had for two and a half years to the HD60 S+! Now I'll be able to listen to my laptop audio, game audio, and myself speaking into the mic with my headset all at the same time with no delay! I have no doubt that it'll be worth EVERY penny! Thanks for helping me with that decision! Great video! 👍🏽

[@BusterBeachside]

I'm literally in the exact same boat, haha. Having to delay everything else on my stream by 1,000ms to compensate for the HD60's lag was the worst. Best Buy just so happened to still have the HD60 S+ still in stock, so I kind of lucked out!

[@BLamb]

Buster Beachside Dude, same here! LOL

[@itisSERENiTY]

I appreciate this video so much! I am a Twitch streamer and I just been using the HD60S elgato capture card on my MAC and that audio and lag be REAL! So this helped. I was able to purchase the S+ I'm excited!

[@xBlayze]

Thank you so much for this 🙏🏻 I’m definitely gonna pay the extra $20 for the s+ for my MacBook!

[@MidnightMan]

Great move

[@luizgarcia6715]

macbook pro or air? will the air work with hd60s+ ?

[@itsnaviboy]

Ive been looking for a comparison between these two devices but i cant find a good comparison, then i found your video. HD60S+ it is. Thanks.

[@ickymedia1020]

Man, Midnight your vids are so helpful. Just started streaming/ recording during this lockdown period And your videos have helped me tremendously with what I would need to set up and how to use it. Keep doing you thing. Thanks bro, love from London 👌🏽

[@MoogMuskie]

Crazy seeing people talking about lock down 2 years ago

[@djfuely]

broooo! i was going insane trying to use the audio input on the HD60S+ on my mac, turns out i need to use the game capture software to switch it to from HDMI to analogue THANK YOU.. well explained! Legend!

[@Theblackflash321]

DJ FUEL so you use a Mac book to stream?

[@djfuely]

Tyrone Brown I hadn’t been. I used my studio window computer for my lives but from now I’ll be using my MacBookpro mid 2014

[@revansgc]

("This video was not a sponsor", glad to have read that.) Thank you for the information!

[@AkashvaniTech]

i am using elgato hd60 s in my dual pc setup... but when i duplicate the windows 1440p resolution is gone .. only 4k and 1080p resolution available in windows .. what should i do ?

[@huskeyfunhouse]

i was on the HD60 forever and decided to buy an HD60S+ because i was so tired of the capture delay and so glad there isnt one and very happy i made the right choice

[@miguelsousa5049]

Mate you just made my day, i been fighting with my PS4 and streamlabs obs for the past 4 days. Thank you very much

[@K1ngBard]

Finally!!!! I’ve been streaming for almost a year now and I have been fighting the game audio going out of sync the longer I stream and it’s been terrible. Thank you so much for this video I am beyond happy I found this. Again thank you so much.

[@MidnightMan]

I'm happy I could help! I know how annoying audio shifting can be!

[@unhearted55]

Great video 😊 definitely getting the hd60s plus subscribed

[@paulstoneman99]

You always come to the rescue man! Thank you

[@edwardbenchmarks]

i definitely agree for everything you said. I have both.

[@RoachyTV]

Love the video man! I’m currently using the HD60S and I stream off Mac - and yes I have found there to be some issues (especially with lag) Thanks to this vid I’m probably gonna go for the upgrade! Thanks dude 👍

[@MidnightMan]

It's a worth it upgrade, I know I seem like sales man here, but I just want people who are searching this stuff up to be as informed as possible.

[@dandreurquhart3511]

MidnightMan I actually found that I was having audio sync issues. The solution is turning off “flashback recording” that fixed the recording audio sync issues. Also I noticed there is latency when using a Dongle on the MacOS so you can’t actually play off the MacBook screen on MacBook Pro with USB C unless you use a USB 3.2 gen 2 cable. it’s ashame that a big company can’t macOS working right

[@glassMediaa]

Holy smokes man, I've just spent 3 days solid trying to fix the HD60S audio syncing issues with Mac Streamlabs OBS.... I've applied render delays, video sync delays, audio delays.. And guys absolutely no hope. Im going to be completely honest with everyone that see's this comment, do not waste your time like I did by buying the HD60S. Im sending it back today and putting an order in for the HD60S+ because It just DOESN'T WORK LAG FREE FOR MAC Streamlabs OBS! Thank-you Midnight Man for such a solid video on your thoughts, I can definitely rest assure I will have a smooth stream when the HD60S+ arrives

[@M.A.D.C.J]

Yeah same dude I’m returning my 60s and just bought the 60s plus because I’m so tired of it

[@sweetoverlord9294]

Thank you so much. I want to start streaming and slowly building my system. You have been very helpful in me pulling the trigger.

[@Mo0m0oSaZn]

I would love to get the HD60S+...if everyone wasn’t quaranstreaming themselves and all the S+’s weren’t sold out... Awesome video though, great review and info!

[@omgyodj]

They’re in stock rn

[@yoitsMajor]

OmgYoDj where

[@B1gEv1lSON]

I went to there site it says sold out but idk I’m looking for a hd60s+

[@omgyodj]

TheB1gEv1l SAN there were in stock for a day lmao

[@TheFartsandCrapsShow]

Yup, my HD60 S hasn't been that great, partially because of those proprietary drivers. I've been putting up with it for 3 years now, but I think Elgato has given up on supporting the device since the S+ is out now. Oh well. Guess it's time for a UVC device.

[@IvanPerezEMF]

As always man, great video. This is very helpful. I've been wanting to stream and record with better quality and now I know which to get thanks to this video and you. You experienced this problems first hand and give your honest opinions about it. Keep it up man.

[@MidnightMan]

I'm happy I could help you man, thank you for the continued support over the years ❤️

[@IvanPerezEMF]

@@MidnightMan dude you deserve more subs for sure. Your content is top notch.

[@Marusame]

For anyone complaining about delay... STOP playing games through the capture window!!! do the passthrough on a tv. I dont recommend doing this even with the 0 lag solutions, always always do passthrough and let the lag happen or not happen in the middle.

[@easyyyyegaming9678]

This was the video I been looking for. Appreciate man

[@thenomadmarshall4972]

This video helped a ton! picking up the hd60s+ today and starting my streaming journey :)

[@MidnightMan]

Happy I could help!

[@waipunalee-puulei6405]

Intro wasn’t boring thanks I’m hooked #subbedafter30sec

[@danigavin4358]

This definitely helped me choose between the two and have a clear idea of the difference, great video and new sub. Thanks!

[@Rockmankb]

Hey! If you have a second, I was wondering if the instant gameview latency was the same on both the hd60s and hd60s+? I realize that streaming isn't low lag with the hd60s, but I mean strictly in the instant gameview with no recording. Is there any real difference between the latency across the 2 devices in that scenario? Thanks so much for any help you can give me!

[@vonj6173]

u might have just saved me, i didnt even know the difference was only 20$ when the s+ is way better for me

[@W4HB]

very helpful view :), I was thinking about which one to get since i've never bought a capture card before, now i KNOW what to get thanks to you !

[@anthonypena8685]

glad i watched this before ordering the hd60s. now i just need the + to come back in stock. thanks a ton!

[@TropicalJus]

its in stock rn on amazon

[@RobertRodriguezMusic]

Finally someone understands my problem with elgato hd s! I can’t stand the NDI

[@zSCATS]

Yeeaaa thanks brother exactly what i needed to hear thank you!

[@oliverdestefanis982]

Great video. Really helped me understand the difference between the two and which one I should buy.

[@JoannaSimon]

I learn something new every time you post a video haha thanks for the shoutout, great video :)

[@MidnightMan]

Thank you for being a part of this video! 😄

[@onlyrevs6460]

I appreciate this bro great vid, and much love for the tips on making it work smoothly!

[@MarzyBacchus]

really appreciate this video as a Mac user always have to make sure I get real reviews lol , just getting into streaming and tryna get my set up booming

[@jazurina]

This was extremely helpful... Thank youu!!! I've been making Animal Crossing videos for about 2 months now and I'm using the Ezcap 261 capture card. I'm trying to save up right now to get an Elgato capture card because the one I'm currently using is really laggy even after I changed the fps... The coloring is off... And the sound is a key off. This video was extremely helpful to see which one would be better in my interest!! TYSM🥺💞✨

[@anthonyzouki]

great video man and was very informative. much love

[@jiggystar803]

I hate lag for when I'm recording my stuff I am definitely considering about getting the plus thank you so much for the informative video :D

[@shapesofpixels]

Thanks man really needed the advice

[@EggOnBeansOnToast]

I enjoyed this video, your personality and explanations. Nice one.

[@Extirpo]

Thx my man 👍 Have used the 60S, and have ordered the 60S+, using Windows. My main reason for upgrading is the capture 1080 in 60 frames, that you will get (Playing on PS4). Bummer about the new software you will have to use, didnt realize that untill I saw your video. Good video bro!

[@Disclaim_]

Wow this was a good video. I think I’ll go with the + and see how it goes. I’ll update my comment when I get one! EDIT: the card works great. You have to buy a chat link cable to hear party and in game chat. Another hoop to jump through but the cap card is great

[@judahnadav5418]

U hon update it?

[@Disclaim_]

Shots Fired when it ships

[@VincentMPlays]

Nice video! It was really helpful! Thank you so much! 🙏

[@PeacefulPagoda]

Excellent video, man. This is exactly the info I was looking for.

[@Edgar-uj9fh]

I've been in search of a solution to the problem I'm having capturing audio from a game I'm running on my iPhone XR. I'm using the Elgato HD60 S+ and my streaming software is OBS Studio. Regardless of which streaming application I use, the problem is the same. According to information I saw in this and other of your videos, I changed the Audio Input setting in the Elgato 4K Capture Utility's preferences dialog from "HDMI Audio" to "Analog Audio". I'm still not hearing game audio, nor is anything registering in OBS Studio's Audio Mixer window. Regardless, you have come the closest to providing a solution. I'm guessing there's still something in OBS Studio that I need to tweak. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

[@Theeinsom]

Did u fix the issue

[@Edgar-uj9fh]

@@Theeinsom Yes I did! I managed to get in touch with customer support at Elgato, and we discovered that the capture device was not enabled in Windows settings.

[@newtgaming3666]

I appreciate this video @MidnightMan. I record my gameplay a lot with the Elgato HD60S I streamed off of Windows and Apple. I'm currently using Apple and it's ok to me. (Windows is better...*cough *cough) I made a Playstation Video and it turned out great. Thanks for talking about this because Gamers everywhere need to know the top notch gear to help fulfill their Gamer Goals of 2020.

[@CorruptedYogi]

Do you prefer HD60s for PS4 pro on window PC or HD60+ bro ? Sorry I am bit thick to understand it.

[@newtgaming3666]

@@CorruptedYogi I prefer to use it on windows

[@jayquanfloyd9384]

I'm planning to pick one of these up this week so I need to get a little informed before I purchase one this friday.

[@chancejacobs5175]

Please do a setup tour and how it all goes together!!!!

[@MidnightMan]

It's coming, very soon stay tuned... 😏

[@chancejacobs5175]

MidnightMan thank you my guy! I’ve been waiting for the MacBook 14in to come out to stream on with but you’re the only person I know who does stream on a Mac, so you’re kinda all I got for tips on streaming on a MacBook appreciate brotha!!!!

[@remskkii]

Thanks for the vid, Kenny! Needed it!

[@KaptainCanuck]

Info correction: USB-c can be USB2/3. USB-c is simply the connector while the cable can be any of USB: 1/2/3. If your USB-C is saying slow xharge, you have USB1 or 2 cables and need to check the product info. If no listed, look elsewhere. Also, capture works fine over USB2, as well.

[@LordsOfSkulls]

best buy, has the S+ and its were i ordered my XD

[@skrapelotto]

Thats where im going to get mine from today. Thanks for this comment 😂 cause i wanted to he shore they had it before i went

[@yamotha69]

great video! really helped a lot :)

[@squarez3r059]

I really appreciate the video! Super helpful. Thanks!

[@MidnightMan]

No problem!

[@tonebuttah]

Could’ve used this video about 3 weeks ago ! Lol

[@dimpletae3914]

Really helpful!!! Thank you so much 😊

[@MidnightMan]

Happy to help!

[@ahmedsarker01]

Thanks for your honest review.

[@BanoClan]

thanks for helping me chose! your the best

[@MidnightMan]

No problem!!

[@ShredzZ]

HD60S+ finally works with MacOS obs 👌 thats awesome

[@alaabuzubedah4737]

It works with windows?

[@ShredzZ]

@@alaabuzubedah4737 sure, elgato Capture cards works with windows

[@crustyboi9986]

I was gonna buy the HD60S and i saw this and you saved me on wasted money

[@MANNYVLOGS1987]

I finally got the hd60s + bro!! This video was amazing, on point man.

[@Sean-410]

I’m thinking of getting one after failing with NDI. You still using it without trouble?

[@MANNYVLOGS1987]

@@Sean-410 yepp!! The hd60s+ has been working amazing with my macbook pro and ps4 slim set up. No lag or audio drag at all. Love it!

[@Sean-410]

@@MANNYVLOGS1987 I wana use it for 2 pc stream. I read it forces you to play 60hz on gaming pc.. I have 144hz monitor but I duno if this is true or not

[@MANNYVLOGS1987]

@@Sean-410 I’m honestly not sure about that either. I play on a 144hz monitor from AOC as well. The quality looks good to me though

[@AwesomeMark]

what a great video, before watching it i didnt know that there was such a big difference between them, but the lag free is worth the extra $ for an all round better product. thanks for the great tips MidnightMan

[@MidnightMan]

And don’t forget being able to record 4k too! Happy to help!

[@jacksoncalahan]

Very informative man. I like very informative men. Subscribed.

[@SCFick318]

Thank you so much man, had no idea that the HD60S just doesn't like working with Mac, thought it was me who was doing something wrong.

[@HolaMundoDev]

Do you have a performance impact with your HD60S+ on MacOS?, when I start building up scenes in OBS my laptop triggers the fans and it goes really loud! I also have frame skipping and I have a 2015 macbook pro retina with an nvidia GPU.

[@MidnightMan]

I have noticed the + does spike my CPU more than the S.

[@MrPhillip876]

Awesome and informative vid. Thank you my guy

[@JJBGaming__YT]

as a MacBook Air user and small streamer , do you recommend the HD60S+ with the small extra cost ? never purchased any streamer equipment before as I currently stream thru the PS4 . also, will the Elgato be compatible with the PS5 later this year ? great video

[@MidnightMan]

Is your air a dual core? If so the elgato may not work at all

[@JJBGaming__YT]

@@MidnightMan its an Intel core i5 , will that work ?

[@JapeSkape]

thank you so much, now i know that my laptop can record with the elgato S and elgato S+

[@AragonTelly]

Thank you so much for the help! I now know which one to get

[@justanotherpxrson]

Now it’s not only on Amazon, but there is about a $50 difference. Thoughts?

[@MidnightMan]

If you’re on windows you’re good with the S. On Mac go with the S+.

[@ISAACThBro]

Thanks for showing that USB-C to USB_C cable!, I really needed that

[@JACKSONPRYORBENNETT]

Great video! Never seen your stuff before but you seem super knowledgeable about this topic and I had a question I'm hoping you can answer! I have an older MacBook Pro (2015-2017 era) and I just bought the elgato HD60S+ and the elgato 15 button stream deck. I will probably also get their camlink soon too! However I only have two USB ports and no USB-C ports on this computer. One of the USB ports is already in use from my mouse. So I need more ports and a way to adapt the USB-c to USB. Is there some kind of USB hub or adapter that would successfully resolve this issue?

[@MidnightMan]

Any high rated usb hub should do the trick. In this scenario you will be fine using the standard USB cable that came in the box and have your mouse plugged into a port on the hub.

[@JACKSONPRYORBENNETT]

@@MidnightMan great thanks! Yeah I looked all over for a good usb-c to usb cable only to do a little more reading on el gato’s site, discovering it comes with the cable I was searching for lol I learned my lesson!

[@humbertogonzales537]

Good Job bro! Greetings from Peru!!

[@RayUp]

Awesome job bro I can’t thank you enough...I got the standard one...but you just got a 👍+1...keep doing your thing bro...#strongertogether💯

[@BigRighteousGameplayJewels]

Great vid. Quick question. Does the El Gato software support green screen with the 60 S?? Or will I still have to use SLOBS or OBS? I am still using the El Gato Game Capture HD, and there isn't even support for a webcam in the software with the Gamecap HD LOL. Upgrading everything very soon.. And green screen streaming/vids is a must.

[@MidnightMan]

In the Elgato software green screens are supported using a webcam, you can also do it in OBS or SLOBS too

[@BigRighteousGameplayJewels]

@@MidnightMan Nice.. Thanks for the reply homie..

[@PandaWeight]

Thanks - great video breakdown!

[@HuntersMoon.]

Dude! THANK YOU for addressing the dam OBS link issues. I’ve been having issues every stream with audio from my Mac , Ordered the 60s+.

[@albertungar1923]

I have a question about the Elgato HD60 S+. Does the Elgato HD60 S+ comes in remastered 4K Resolution, High Definition, and High Quality on any retro game consoles: Sega Genesis, Sega Dreamcast, original Xbox, Xbox 360, the first PlayStation, PlayStation 2, and more?

[@saisainghlyan9749]

thank you so much this really helped me out a lot like a lot thank u

[@Set42]

Thank you so much for the informative video. I am going to buy the HD60+

[@CraytonTv]

Awesome video bro great explanation and very helpful awesome channel keep up the good work. Never give up..

[@MidnightMan]

Thank you brother! And keep pushing with your channel as well!

[@AutismRocksOfficial]

I'm a bit confused. You say the audio and video is synced and "lag free", but do you still get the 1-2 second video lag as you have on the HD 60s with the plus? Meaning, do you have to have a separate gameplay monitor, or is the image on OBS instant without controller delay on the plus? Thanks!

[@MidnightMan]

The plus is practically instant.

[@55Ignis]

I have the HD60s and it's pretty awesome.

[@ZubairRecords]

Hello Sir Sir Which one capture Card is Good for Xbox one X. Elgato hd60 pro or Hd60 S+

[@MidnightMan]

go s+

[@jmiddzgaming5007]

Great video. Did you run into video card issues at all with Mac? I’ve heard you need an external GPU like blackmagic eGpu if your using Mac mini among others.

[@MidnightMan]

It does a decent job, but it’ll do even better with an eGPU

[@allthingzacnh1210]

Awsome video thank you, do you by chance have a video on how to set it up?

[@MidnightMan]

Which console? I have quite a few videos on the setup, feel free to browse my recording setup playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLPKmUNEk9zA935x5CZNdDwCvDZLb0LPme

[@MegaMegasmileyface]

great video bro, you saved my clueless mind

[@patrikmedia]

13:24 you called 2160p "2K" there, it's actually 4K

[@MidnightMan]

Yes, it's 4k you are correct. Saw the 2 and jumped to saying 2k 🙂

[@patrikmedia]

@@MidnightMan no worries :)

[@potatowizardgaming188]

This was super helpful honestly. Definitely subscribing. Was just wondering what your mac specs are? Do you need a solid gaming graphics card like NVIDIA for the Elgato HD60S+ to run smoothly? Since my mid-2012 Mac Pro only has Intel HD Graphics 4000 with an 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7. Again great content!

[@JoshMoney]

It sucks because I bought a MacBook Pro M1 and only the HD60S+ is compatible with the new apple silicons.

[@MidnightMan]

Macs don’t have it easy with this kind of stuff

[@demetv88]

THANK YOU SIR!! SOLID!!

[@meadapug2339]

Will these capture cards record my voice and my friends voice in recordings.