💎 Elite Dangerous Mining Guide - LTD Subsurface Mining in Elite Dangerous Python Ship Build

Here is my new 2020 Elite Dangerous Mining Guide. We do subsurface mining in Elite Dangerous. I also show off my subsurface and core Elite Dangerous Python mining build.
I tested this new 2020 Elite Dangerous Mining method in my Cutter and Python. This Elite Dangerous Mining guide was made in 2020 featuring the new subsurface mining method to make tons of space cheddar. So go out and start mining in Elite Dangerous today!
Did some more Elite Dangerous mining speed runs today in my Python with my best time being 42 minutes from take off to landing on my Fleet Carrier with 198 LTD's in the hold. It seems 500 million per hour is very achievable Commanders!
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[@HawkesGaming]

Sadly overlaps do matter in a way. The amount of chunks spawned is directly tied to the overlap. So a x3 gives you 3x the chunks per success. I just did multiple runs as a test at various ltdx1. Although i do find the sub surface deposits decently enough it's the per success that matters the most. So I guess it's still tied to overlaps except for the core asteriods.

[@havoc7646]

So an LTD 3 spot is still the best for this as well?

[@HawkesGaming]

@@havoc7646 Yes sadly. The overlap seems to effect the amount of chunks produced with each success.

[@neolynxer]

Hey, Hawkes! You don't respond in Discord nowdays. Is there another way to contact you? I appreciate so much you offered your help with a Matter Flow video. Are you still willing to do it or is your mind change on it? It could really use some exposure.

[@mlegarth]

Exactly. It's only core dosn't scale. I think this is what they changed in the update.

[@taco7423]

Can you sell your LTD from the fleet carrier or you have to jump in the system you wanna sell to?

[@JB-gb7uu]

To clarify for Console players, those "Red" lines are actually BLUE lines for normal HUD colors.

[@buzzfightbeer8023]

Yep that threw me for a loop as well. I actually tried his HUD colors and they were terrible. Lol

[@laeyak8504]

Thanks Hawkes! Litteraly, i love this game, and recommended it to 5 of my freinds. They all bought it, but couldnt find out how to get anywhere with credits ( all they knew how to do was courier missions ). I sent them the 2019 beginners guide, and they got back into the game. With the new update / patch which changed how the ltds work, we all couldnt get anymore credits. I send them this, and now we are all online in our Condas, Corvettes and Cutters. I cant thankyou enough for helping me and my freinds through this game. These videos are amazing, and the content is awesome. Thanks man!

[@muffin3691]

All other hawk games commentary: enthusiasm Elite dangerous commentary: dead inside

[@doglordo9715]

Wow, that speech about subscribing was really inspirational with the music and now ive subbed!

[@Golem501]

Same here... it was the "you watch all these video's but still forgot to subscribe" that triggered me.

[@gracefullynadine864]

You know, that was the most convincing "please subscribe" I've ever heard. Well I'm here now, subscribed.

[@smokeclouds8]

*Hawkes Gaming !!!* Once again giving us the best way to make space cheddar. Thanks Chief

[@ggoddkkiller1342]

I think they already nerfed it or im too unlucky due i spent 1.5 hours and only could mine 170 ltd which is pretty much same as laser mining!! It still gives tons of chunks but the problem is even in 3x overlapping ltd it is too hard to find ltd subsurfaces. I spent one hour and couldn't find anything good only one x2 then in the last 30 minutes i found 2 x3 that one of them alone gave 60 ltd!! So if you find a lot of x3 you can really farm 500 million a hour but it is extremely unlikely, i think it doesn't worth the effort compared to extremely easy laser mining...

[@marksminis]

Nah this method is debunked

[@schwarzweisshiphop4077]

if your too lazy to type the system in the search bar, here you can copy col 285 sector cc-k a38-2

[@leshkraven]

Dope af... I`m on this, I`ve been laser mining for days now, hours at a time. Tomorrow I will be learning to SSD and rake in those chunks. Thanks for the great work and great video CMDR o7

[@Electric_Bagpipes]

Just like the system chat says... *DON’T TELL FDEV!!!!!*

[@seamon9732]

Too late, they already know... and there's an even faster method than described here that they also know about. Word is they plan on nerfing monday. So mine while you can.

[@HawkesGaming]

The amount per drop will likely be lowered. I tried tritium flipping using a carrier. I bought 10k worth at 2k ea and sold that 10k for 85k ea. It was a nice profit but nothing as fast as this sub surface minng.

[@nocturne_adagio]

@@seamon9732 Whats the faster method seeing as they are prolly gunna patch

[@figjam9530]

@@seamon9732 yeah, expect the nerf hammer. fdev seem to be fine with any money making method up to, and including, approximately 100 mil an hour. any more than that and they get their panties in a big old wad.

[@ggoddkkiller1342]

I think they already nerfed it or im too unlucky due i spent 1.5 hours and only could mine 170 ltd which is pretty much same as laser mining!! It still gives tons of chunks but the problem is even in 3x overlapping ltd it is too hard to find ltd subsurfaces. I spent one hour and couldn't find anything good only one x2 then in the last 30 minutes i found 2 x3 that one of them alone gave 60 ltd!! So if you find a lot of x3 you can really farm 500 million a hour but it is extremely unlikely, i think it doesn't worth the effort compared to extremely easy laser mining...

[@CertifictJones]

"This if for you yamicks" the actual read on that was spot on I gooped

[@bitshuffler]

lol, hawkes and yamiks crossovers 4ever. Great video!

[@XXAVENGEDSFOLDXX]

Its important to detonate the missile in the bars with two lines or one line. Ive noticed that if i detonate in the larger bars i get only 2-3 chunks. However bars with two or lower yield 8+.

[@rileyclose4430]

I was going to say whenever I detonate I only get like one chunk. When I saw how much he was getting from one missile I thought I was losing my mind

[@ij1376]

@@rileyclose4430 same

[@flinx789]

Gotta tell ya, I love your videos man! They are as entertaining as much as they are informative. Thanks for doing them!!!

[@PaddyWa]

The last time I mined in ED collection limpets weren’t in the game. Now there’s so much stuff to learn 👍

[@arturius9715]

This just popped on my feed...then I saw 5 months ago...a tear I shed

[@Frackit-pe6uh]

Mining with sub surface missiles for LTD's is the best tip I've had in all the time I've been playing Elite (500 hrs), great fun to do and a fraction of the time it normally takes me, been doing it all day, so thank you Hawkes Gaming luv your video's lots of helpful tips but this one tops them.

[@wfellhoelter]

Yamiks is gonna love you hahaha

[@nightwingzero8905]

You know I love it when guys like you share this type of wonderful content of making money, great videos and subscribed

[@nickfox5421]

I absolutely love your videos and your humor!

[@ForkOperator]

Daddy Hawkes has once again spoken. I’m thankful for this as I have one station outside the bubble with a mil per ton sale and a gas giant with a single LTD spot

[@richardlochner482]

Finally after 6 trips I found a triple subsurface roid. Boy were the returns beautiful. So many chunks my screen was swimming in grey

[@wildbillnye]

you totally upped my LTD mining efficiency. subbed

[@CrazyDingoMan1]

Another insanely helpful video bro. Much appreciated.

[@tuhp5237]

UPDATEEE: THIS IS PATCHED IT IS NO LONGER GOOD AT ALL

[@dafeekielelliott2442]

bruh moment

[@twerkingtwinkies2335]

Great vid! Tired of having small heart attacks deep core mining with my t9. Not the mining part, the pirate part. Didn't know about this. Definitely doing it now!!! Subbed, and thanks👍

[@oreste1964]

Ha ha and always fun to hear from you, you have this unique style that I don't know where it comes from or what inspires you but it is nice and friendly.

[@seanerzat]

Thanks for the video CMDR! Gonna try this one out today

[@Smokey_MR2]

Only just found your channel, loving your commentary and great info, subbed. People who disliked must have their screen upside down lol.

[@johnnyhernandez1804]

Thanks a lot man, got me to Elite in three days.

[@Gro2healthheirlooms]

Sweet! I have a fleet carrier parked close to a triple hotspot and plan to use my type 9 and python. I will use the same method you just shared 😃👨‍🚀🚀👍. Thanks

[@tommybrown9104]

I tried the build yesterday but could not get the mini-game to show up. I am sure it was something the loose nut in my ship was doing incorrectly, bad brain day. I love your videos, they have been a great help to get me going in the right direction. I just started playing in the last 10 days. Keep up the great work.

[@GunterGruhn9973]

I just mined in an LTD1 hotspot, and I the frequency of sub-surface deposits there was definitely lower than in the Col 285 LTD3 hotspot. It took me about 15 minutes to find a single deposit on average, whereas in the LTD3, it never took more than 5 minutes to find a rock with multiple.

[@cardhock1631]

Sounds great will do that once my type 9 is full

[@superblahblah666]

I stopped playing right at the carrier beta it seems they made LTD mining even easier. Thanks!

[@ProTecz]

This is so OP, i knew about this for a few days now and mentioned it on Yamiks stream and got laughed at for being a liar when you can make 450 mil/hr on a good run. so take that you people that disbelieved such a high amount was possible!

[@diverspudph1310]

Farking hilarious! And super helpful!

[@IT-xv4mh]

This commander is a god sir you have helped my game play 10 fold thank you

[@lorecmvii1212]

Oh damn, you live in Alaska!? Love the videos, man. Now I’m for sure gonna have to buy some swag just in case I run into ya randomly somewhere.

[@MrShadowpanther3]

Not sure if it has been mentioned, Hawkes has altered colors on his HUD. If you have a stock orange hud the areas on the drill display will be light blue. One other note, the triple LTD area has been nerfed in Borann. It no longer exists once they rerolled everything for Tritium. Pre-Carrier I spent a LOT of time out here doing the "mapped laser ltd mining" where someone spent the time to shoot a bunch of prospectors, find the juiciest rock, take a picture of where it is. You fly to that rock which is most likely 25% - %30 or better, strip it, orient yourself where the next picture shows and fly to the next indicated rock. If you were good at lining up the pictures, you could fill a cutter in a around an hour. This was also when dumping a cutter's worth of LTD's did not crash the price. I believe those days are gone.

[@jaysonjota]

The jack of all trades of elite dangerous thank you for your videos even though this has been nerfed the videos are extremely good

[@josephabraham4058]

The Type-9 Pretender with Engineered Thrusters (G5) and 776 tones of cargo is effing READY TO GO! Whoooooo!

[@ramirolopez7548]

You're channel is all I was good detail videos and learned alot keep up the good work

[@komradeklutch6215]

I made the stand today. I SUBSCRIBED!

[@BillCClinton]

I can pull in about 200 tons per hour with laser mining and decided to give the sub surface a try. It was fun but man chasing the sweet spot around the asteroid as it spins was not! :)

[@Hal-el7cy]

I subscribed for your dry honesty.

[@PaulWelsh]

Sub'd mate, thanks for the vids!

[@Dannyb0y25]

Great video, thanks cmdr

[@joecherry6879]

...why, why didnt I find your vids when I got elite on the ps4 release haha?! Thanks again

[@gort5583]

Great tip! Get better soon mate!

[@ricomumbauer9710]

I love your comments! And the best: your guides work! Still following your money-making guide for beginners and I’m still not owning a Python, but I definitely will set it up as you suggested just now. Keep it up! Cha-Ching!!

[@HawkesGaming]

Get that space cheddar ma dude!

[@sonicwingnut]

@@HawkesGaming Quick question are Core Internals here the same as Python in the main 2020 guide? This video doesn't appear to go over core internals. Also it'd be kinda cool if for any ship builds you detail to put the list of parts in the video description, then we can just copy/paste 'em instead of pausing to write stuff down.

[@HawkesGaming]

@@sonicwingnut there are two differences from my other build. Sense I now have a fleet carrier I no longer need a fuel scoop. I also have 3 x 64 cargo racks on my subsurface build. I took out one 5a collector and replaced with it a cargo rack and added a 3a collector in place of the fuel scoop. Giving me 64 more cargo space with only 1 less limpet coming in at 8 total.

[@sonicwingnut]

@@HawkesGaming Hm, well I don't have a fleet carrier so may try the old build first then see how I do with swapping out just the collector if I end up running out of cargo space before limpets. Although part of me is tempted to just sell cheap to all the fleet carriers parked outside to save time

[@CruelViper88]

There are 2 sub-surface launchers. the 1B and 2B. They are EXACTLY the same in performance. Only difference is: 2B has more ammo capacity (96 rounds instead of 32) and demands a bit more power.

[@GrahamAstles]

Good tips. Thanks.

[@bowenwalker2087]

sales pitch worked.. you have my sub

[@sumojede8150]

Hell yeah, i dont understand that much, because i am a "German Kartoffel". But it is enough to make some cheddar - not that much like you, but i am happy with it. Thanks for your awesome Videos! Subscribed !

[@marcushillerstrom25]

I'm going to try this tonight.

[@wolfgangwalaboo3176]

The only ED content I can watch.

[@Krosis_]

Alright my dude, you got a sub from me. You deservere it!

[@lovethesabres06]

Now imagine a Stealth Pirate behind you taking half then without you ever knowing he's there 😆

[@The-Man-On-The-Mountain]

I have been mining in a single spot and in 2 swapping spots. I think that the number of ring spots actually counts, because in the single one, it was really hard to find asteroids with LTD drilling spots; but it was easier in the two swapping spots.

[@TnTRapeist]

We love you mr Hawkes!!!

[@Maurilustrador]

Lol this looks so fun! If they only put the same effort into bounty hunting and thargoid hunting. 10.000 for a thargoid scout? Pffff

[@jacobturnerart]

Tell me about it. Thargoid hunting is a rich man's sport. The bounties on scouts barely cover repairs from that corrosive shit and ammo!

[@Maurilustrador]

@@jacobturnerart you end up wasting more money shooting lol haha. Mining now has 3 different gameplay styles, laser, deep core and rhythm game mining. All other careers are abandoned.

[@figjam9530]

@@Maurilustrador scout hunting for me has two benefits.1, every scout is considered elite combat rank so if you are trying to farm combat rank they are a big help. 2, it's a lot of fun. it was kind tedious when there was only one type, but regenerators, beserkers etc make it more challenging and fun. but yes, type of scout should affect bounty price, 10000 for a marauder maybe, but regenerators/berserkers/inciters should pay more.

[@jasonboughen9542]

I couldn’t agree more. Wish they would buff combat in a big way.

[@Maurilustrador]

@@figjam9530 yeah they help a lot with rank and are also fun. Combat overall is very very fun but it's just not worth the time, in the end you have to mine, haul or make passenger missions, make money and bounty hunt as a hobby or to not get bored about the game.

[@CoroDan]

Love ya work.

[@smokeythecat8967]

The banjo is a nice touch

[@elmotastic578]

The subscription speech made me subscribe

[@mikkdc]

Saw this on another channel live stream the other day. He got 90 tons from one rock!

[@nicdesbias]

Most convincing subscription beggary ever. ^^

[@FPVQatar]

i had to watch it twice to make sure what I saw is real, thank you CMDR o7

[@DevilbyMoonlight]

subsurface mining must have had a bit of a boost! am sure it used to give 1 chunk per strike - thanks for sharing as always

[@TheGeoCheese]

Yes they buffed subsurface mining when the fleet carriers came out.

[@dozergames2395]

@@TheGeoCheese I was about to say before subsurface mining was barely worth the time I use to bring 2 seismic charges instead

[@Vide0Browser]

don't worry, few weeks later it will be nerfed again

[@BespinGuard1]

Yesterday I literally made my first mining conda focused around lasers, but with the ability to mine cores aswell

[@YuSoMadBra]

I subscribed cause your voice makes me feel like you have so much more to say

[@ElTiBo44]

“Come closer, ‘cause I don’t want anyone else to hear...” *leans closer to iPhone even though wearing earphones*

[@birbeyboop]

absolute god as always o7

[@addisonr2914]

Great vid, thanks! Why the double seismic launchers?

[@erickelley1680]

and thats a video i just saved for tomorrow. regear my python for subsurface. was looking to try it soon too for shits and giggles.

[@erickelley1680]

just an update. omg. subsurface is so much fun. just gotta get better at piloting so i can move around asteroids well. also broke 1 bill credits for the first time today.

[@DanielDavis1973]

Fyi your colors are reversed from the default.. you want to hit the blue lines if you're using default HUD colors

[@HawkesGaming]

I'm extremely confident that if you can fly a ship in Elite Dangerous you also can understand my Hud colors are different hehe.

[@DanielDavis1973]

@@HawkesGaming lol I dont disagree but some people can be kind of dense.. they hear hit the red lines and they're going to have a bad time.. Awesome video though

[@CrazyDingoMan1]

@@HawkesGaming swear on everything my dumb ass would have messed it up thinking I was trying to hit the red lines. Freaking noobs man 😂😂😂

[@GokouZWAR]

Yea he’s right tho, people watching your vids will go “there’s no red lines anywhere!!”

[@CrazyDingoMan1]

@@GokouZWAR Well the thing with Hawkes is that he shows up a LOT for beginner tutorials when you search for beginner ed tutorials, but I would say that they are more intermediate. They kind of assume some base knowledge and we all know the game doesnt do a great job explaining different things. Like at all

[@612lb]

Hey Hawkes, thanks for your videos! They've been helping me go from the sidewinder up to the Glorious Python in about 4 hours of play! Curious about the Python core internal in this build. I'm currently running a Python build from an earlier video and not sure why my jump range is 14 LY min - 18 LY Current. Is this because I haven't engineered anything yet? If so, what internals should I be installing in my Python to make my build similar to the one in this video?

[@WARLORD383]

Hi m8, Overlapping hotspots help with core mining as i find more of the type of material that the hotspots r, not all the other types of cores 👍in a triple overlapping ltd hotspot u will nearly only get ltd cores 🤘

[@cggr2514]

Your guides have been very useful thanks, I would like to give this a go but I was wondering what setup you have for core modules? Thanks

[@sotalife6230]

Great Vid ;) Thx ~Cmdr Spacetime~

[@snakeize25]

U r tha man!

[@sigvar6795]

I've been subscribed for like the last 25-30 years! Did I mention I remember when they invented dirt?

[@werecow68]

You shamed me into subscribing instead of serial watching. :) Hope you feel better soon!

[@goblino1458]

This is cool

[@groverorchestral5079]

Hahaha that's awesome, get that good ol banjo going for yamiks since he don't understand us country rough necks.

[@bigmike249]

The yamiks shit in the middle killed me 🤣🤣🤣 I was wondering if you were gonna respond hahahahha

[@Z0mbie432]

there's 3 types of mining!? Sweet :))

[@majmack551]

ThankQ Hawkes

[@jgomezmoreu]

Fiiiine, I'll finally subscribe then...

[@cardhock1631]

I would love if u would make a cutter build for this. I would like to stay longer there and not only for 192 units.

[@Disciple-]

PSA: THIS METHOD HAS BEEN NERFED SIGNIFICANTLY. Around 4 days after Hawkes released this, the following was stated in the patch notes released June 17th: “Mining Reduced the largest possible yield when subsurface mining for Low Temperature Diamonds by around 25%. Decreased the effectiveness of the peripheries of Low Temperature Diamond hotspots. Overlapping hotspots for Low Temperature Diamonds, when coupled with the new Subsurface Mining changes, were more effective than the centre of the hotspot itself. This change increases the drop-off of the hotspot’s ring, reducing the likelihood that a double-overlapped hotspot is more lucrative than either of the hotspot’s centrepoints. A well-placed triple hotspot will still be very effective at increasing the likelihood of finding Low Temperature Diamonds. This change does not affect any other hotspots or minerals.” TLDR; Drop into the center of hotspots rather than seeking overlapping ones. If the centers of 2+ hotspots overlap significantly enough, number of core asteroid encounters WILL be higher. Disclaimer; no matter the amount of asteroids with the subsurface mining option available to you, you WILL receive 25% reduced yield compared to Hawkes’ results. This method IS still highly effective, but only when positioned perfectly, and with a little (A LOT.) of help from RNJesus.

[@Exploreandbefree]

I was trying to remember why I stopped playing this game...this is why. Every little thing that benefits the lonely players of Elite, always get nerfed. What a shame

[@zachdillenger5468]

@@Exploreandbefree Oh yeah because over a hundred million an hour is balanced lol, Like there aren't many ships in the game and you can still make crazy amounts of money with little effort. The nerf was perfectly fine and the method is sill very good.

[@trepcsuit]

The question remains, is core or sub-surface mining the current meta? I seem to only get 2-3 chunks per attempt with SSM which at the end, is about the same as a core mining where I get around 15-18 for the asteroid. I might get more SSM chunks per rock but, takes longer to do. With 2 heavy missiles into low fissures, you get a perfect yield everytime. Are they balanced now? Neither better?

[@zachdillenger5468]

@@trepcsuit I wouldn't say there is a meta for mining honestly its RNG dependent either way

[@NoFreedom747]

it has for sure been nerfed, Borann has been paying off extremely more than that old spot just from not having to spend almost an hour to get to a seller.

[@sonicwingnut]

This worked pretty great although with the "Egg" x4 SSD rock 24km from the centre of the middle hotspot, I'm trying out an Anaconda mining build with 320 tons of cargo. Because I'm only mining a single rock over and over I've put everything towards cargo and collection and maximising jump range. Gonna test it out this afternoon and hopefully don't die horribly.

[@robdfar]

Thanks for posting this you and other like you are the reason why they nerfed it but did not fix anything else. I swear I with when there is something like that KZbinrs would not post it all over the place

[@randomperson9672]

He is only trying to help ppl and earn a bit of money lol

[@seanerzat]

Holy crap the little Yamiks interlude killed me hahahaha I hope he sees that

[@orodruined4526]

It is not D2EA's spot. The discoverer of the LTD3 is _Kirre_ who posted the discovery in the EliteMiners subreddit. Credit where credit is due.

[@r.a.8582]

Love your voice man!

[@bjaarki]

Great video dude, this noob has been thoroughly enjoying the content. Question tho, how much longer would this take laser mining? For reference ive got 2x 2Ds and 2x 1Ds. Gonna outfit my lil cobra for subsurface anyway but jw :)

[@antoniom4863]

i love the way this guy talks

[@rytramprophet843]

the smaller the line the more chunks you get. i ALWAYS aim for single bars first and then hit the 2's. i once had an asteroid with 38% LTD content with 5 LTD sub surface deposits. that one asteroid gave me around 200t of LTD

[@birthdwt8859]

I was using your beginners guide and I'm at the python, should I switch to subsurface and core mining instead of laser and core mining