TOP 5 MISTAKES WHEN BUYING ARTILLERY FIREWORKS!

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@yeahdude1986 3 ай бұрын

I tried to tell my wife there’s no difference from 4” to 6” she rolled her eyes at me.

@tru_3986 2 ай бұрын

We still talking shells? 😂

@markbrown4462 2 ай бұрын

She wasnt 😂

@kimberlyjohnson1014 3 ай бұрын

I remember when they first started advertising the 5 inch shells the 6 inch shells 7 inch shells. I remember when it was just 4 inch shells and they still had hollow space. It is a gimmick like you say and I’m glad that there is people out there that are willing to be honest and tell the customers about this because, all that wasted space that expense is thrown onto the customer when fireworks remember this expensive

@bcron1078 3 ай бұрын

Please pin for general consumers that might not watch the full video! General Mistakes: 5. Falling for the BOGO/BOG2 Gimmick 4. Not taking advantage of stores that offer a bulk discount (buying a case of one item to reduce the per item cost) 3. Always buying the same item and not testing out other options (ex: only buying Excalibur canister shells) More Canister Shell Specific Mistakes: 2. Not stepping up your game (ex: only lighting off 1-2 at a time and not investing in a mortar rack if you are buying the 24 packs of canister shells) 1. Buying into the "A bigger shell is a better shell" marketing and being upsold on longer shells. 60g is the max load and the shell length (4", 5", etc.) isn't a big factor necessarily. What's more important is what is inside the shell

@rockinroll817 2 ай бұрын

This was EXCELLENT!!! Thank you!😎👍

@drewjennings550 Жыл бұрын

My number 1 mistake is paying more than 90 for a 24 pack...never doing that again

@detonationpyrotechnics4156 3 ай бұрын

Only for OLS

@drewjennings550 3 ай бұрын

@@detonationpyrotechnics4156 I pay 80 for ols

@CurtisMishleau 3 ай бұрын

Wholesale for ever!!

@jascharl 3 ай бұрын

@@CurtisMishleauI know that’s right.

@jonathanmeyer6174 3 ай бұрын

I paid 150 for Excaliburs lol

@dmkvideos2813 Жыл бұрын

I've been binge watching all of your videos!! Can't wait to buy fireworks from yall for the first time!!

@EliteFireworks Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching, appreciate it!

@pbpyro5546 3 ай бұрын

Dude I have too! They have a $1000 in store give away. You should try to win! I did! I've sent the contest to many people as well.

@louisle4886 3 ай бұрын

I went to a tent that Advertised 50% off. but when you check the price from the makers or other distributors its the same price as the 50% off price. they just doubled the "original" price. I still bought it cause its the only place that had what i was lookin for but I would rather they be genuine and just sell regular price and i still buy and trust them than have them advertise its 50% off and not get my trust. A customer that trusts you will come back.

@ehrenkrause9861 2 ай бұрын

Always wondered about these shows getting bigger but the limit on powder. The math never worked out for me so I always kind of wondered about that. Love it when you get good honest pyrotechnics

@eastendmafia1773 2 ай бұрын

Firework stores are a work of art

@cupwalker24.7 3 ай бұрын

They are selling A box of 24 artillery shells for $259 to $320 where I live 😂 that's insane and robbery .

@Kevinw4040 2 ай бұрын

Sounds like phantom. They charge around 259 in Tampa

@greatfullded 3 ай бұрын

by law.. for Class C aerial canisters can only hold so much powder in each canister, the longer length ones prolly have some special effect stuff in there that need more space but the end result is the weight. If you want to get larger ones then you need a Class B Pyro Lic... then you can get the real stuff.. but Class C is Class C... The Firework Companies are making a illusion of making you think your getting bigger ones than last year but your still getting the same..Its all Marketing like anything else, make it look like your getting a better deal but your not.

@thorpower1015 3 ай бұрын

I feel canisters are overpriced, not to mention the clean up, I prefer repeater cakes, Less clean up and setup time, just me but to each their own.

@chrisboyd1408 2 ай бұрын

Many folks do not understand the quality and value of 200 grams cakes. Often, two different 200 cakes are better than most 500 gram

@Kevinw4040 2 ай бұрын

@@chrisboyd1408man I completely agree. I’ve said this for years I can buy 4-6 200G cakes for what a cheap 500G cakes cost and last longer and and still give you decent show for the bucks.

@blazingsilver1825 3 ай бұрын

I actually had a pretty good deal opening consumer day this year. It was buy one get one free on excal platinum. I paid 80 for one and actually got another completely free. Everyone in the store had 2 of them in their cart😂

@michaelwillman5342 3 ай бұрын

$80 for two Excal kits is definitely worth it.

@JG-PyroTX Жыл бұрын

I will say one thing I've noticed most major wholesale companies offer between 20-40% off cases after New Years. Not so much BOBO but I remember superior had 30% off a good selection and WFboom does 40% off the entire inventory at the beginning of the year. Hoping you guys get the sales volume to make such sales so I can get even more. 😁 On a side note yall need to sell an Elite shirt that says 60 Grams is 60 Grams.

@wbrouilette Жыл бұрын

It sounds like you are asking if they will sell a case of their Hydra Bombs, for example, for $160 or as low as $120. The current price of $200 for a case already seems like a really good deal.

@trentdaniel1992 3 ай бұрын

Master 100 6inch is the best shell I have shot. I have shot close to 70 different brands of canister shell

@seansappok1141 3 ай бұрын

Man you guys need to open a store in Tulsa Oklahoma please! Haha, best prices I've seen so far

@dadude6619 3 ай бұрын

I'm sure there's a place there with similar prices, oklahoma has some good mom and pop shops just gotta shop around and do research

@tepyro7979 3 ай бұрын

He’s right I run a stand and I don’t use the BOGO absurd pricing I try to be fair and give % off the more you spend so you can mix and match shells and cakes and offer 25% off total sale on the day of the fourth regardless of the amount spent. There are a lot of sellers out there who just want your money I used to shop elite. They have awesome deals and about the best customer service out there you’ll find.

@ReneeNme Жыл бұрын

Thank you for helping to expose the 5 inch, 6 inch, and 7 inch artillery shell marketing ploy. If there are any companies out there selling shells that have over 60 grams of composition they are highly illegal. Here's the challenge I always put forward to people ... Fire 12 four inch shells in your yard then see how many pieces of cardboard you find on the ground. Then do the same thing progressively with 5, 6, and 7 inch shells. What you'll find are larger and larger pieces of cardboard laying on the ground as the shells increase in size.

@workforcefreebee4406 Жыл бұрын

i have not even upgraded to 6 in. because 5 inch (the good ones) are more than enough most are way better than 6in. for example grand jury and echo in the ear are 5 inches but out perform most 6 inch.

@ReneeNme Жыл бұрын

@@workforcefreebee4406 I'll freely admit to purchasing 5 inch shells, but 6 & 7 ?? No thanks. Speaking of Echo in the Ear, I'm due to have two 6 pack kits and a case of Pulse Pounder by Winda delivered tomorrow (Thurs). 👍💥

@pyrodiscoflash6115 Жыл бұрын

The Beloved Excaliburs that everyone Misses were OL, it's the Reason everyone Loved them, illegal means a Beurcrat does not approve, just like the Founding Father's strived For

@oldkingcrow777 3 ай бұрын

@@ReneeNmei got a mix of 5 and 6 just to see if i notice a difference. If i dont, ill save a sh*t load next time. It only works out to like $1 more per shot but that adds up over hundreds of canisters

@michaelriddell2881 Жыл бұрын

First, i love your store, went a few weeks ago and loved the prices and excellent customer service! I do wish these videos could be a little shorter in length, theyd be easier to routinely watch

@djdew78 Жыл бұрын

a lot of stores use the word whole sale to much becuse a lots not whole sale

@huskerflyguy79 Ай бұрын

Death Shell is just as loud as the Excalibur platinum

@scottsuhre2514 2 ай бұрын

Firework shells are measured by diameter, not length. Every canister shell shown in the video, as he mentioned, are 1 3/4" shells.

@jaybird3651 2 ай бұрын

Shouldn't be measured by either dimension just weight of powder which is regulated by law to be 60 gram max

@scottsuhre2514 2 ай бұрын

@@jaybird3651 not sure that would work. Shells have always been measured by diameter until this retail marketing gimmick came along and started calling canister shells by their length. The problem with not classifying by size comes into play when knowing what mortar size you'll need to have for the shell.

@denfireworks Жыл бұрын

Man I love looking at that row of shells!!! Man getting 50+ more kits coming? You are going to keep me busy for awhile! I hate the trend of 6+ inch shells.... Hate it...

@JG-PyroTX Жыл бұрын

I believe the total at the Texas store is around 155 different kits.

@dwolters_the_zombieman 3 ай бұрын

True on the canister shells it's not the size of it that matters it's what's inside you can have a 3 inch perform better than a 7 inch shell

@scrapknight 3 ай бұрын

so theres hope for me is what your saying

@bryantmeissner6856 3 ай бұрын

I used to go to phantom...... Never again. Buy 2 get one free🤔. One case for $200. Gtfoh. $90 for the same Case different store.

@oldkingcrow777 3 ай бұрын

That was me but last year when i finally grasped how bad it was. Only ever went twice but the first time was before the economy got tanked (aka WAY cheaper under the Orange Don 😂) so you didnt notice it as bad. With everything so crazy, might as well get the best deal possible and for 90% of us that means order online, as much as it sucks not having the awesome feeling of going to the store

@bryantmeissner6856 3 ай бұрын

@@oldkingcrow777 I live in NYC. Can't order. I drive to Pennsylvania

@pskarts20 Жыл бұрын

Can you buy the cases without wholesale at your store?

@EliteFireworks Жыл бұрын

Yes

@pyrodiscoflash6115 Жыл бұрын

Store Looks Fantastic

@huskerflyguy79 Ай бұрын

I wish I could buy just the shells I have the racks already I don’t need the tubes with them

@stephentontz3853 2 ай бұрын

I have always loved fireworks since I was a kid. But have never lived where they are legal.

@OkieDokedU 2 ай бұрын

I went the perfect day, 260$ shell finales were 90$ at phantom fireworks

@scott.baierscott2198 2 ай бұрын

This guy has the option to not have a bad hairline but he chooses balding with money..

@Sevendustfan2009 Жыл бұрын

Miracle makes some damn good shells. Miracle Baddah Bang, Ultimate Hero and Max Explosion shells. Those I just said are fantastic

@ryannewyspyrotechnics2421 Жыл бұрын

Valmir FYI I’ll be in touch by tomorrow and by the way the store looks amazing all those shell kits it’s like a kid in a candy store and you’re absolutely right about the gimmick in a marketing scheme seven and shell when it’s really regulated 60 g great video bro trying to sell Pyro‘s. That may not know the deal

@huskerflyguy79 Ай бұрын

I thought the longer the shell the higher it goes up in the air

@johnperez93640 2 ай бұрын

I like to pull out a wad of money when sitting with my wife, and every piece that gets lit, i count out how much it costed us. BOOM....POW! =$25. After about 20min i tell her "count it", and shes like wow thats alot of money that literally burned up. And then i tell her how much it cost to make each one of those and she starts getting upset.

@JdubbJdubb 2 ай бұрын

You guys should open a warehouse in Washington

@aaronroberts5685 Жыл бұрын

Remember, no matter how good the deal is, the store always makes a profit. They have too

@Jakob_23 Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Best thing you can do for yourself is just make more money and some of these prices won’t mean nothing to your bank account.

@aaronroberts5685 Жыл бұрын

@@Jakob_23 indeed 😆

@dolobrolic6066 3 ай бұрын

Y’all need more locations…..🤔….asap

@huskerflyguy79 Ай бұрын

Do you guys carry the Superman shells

@Nick-hf2fe 2 ай бұрын

At tnt in Miami I spent 314 on a case of 24 6 inch

@chrisboyd1408 2 ай бұрын

Another great, informational video. Superb tips! Everyone needs to watch this.

@rockbandgamer 2 ай бұрын

Y’all got a lot of good shells.

@alfredphillips3469 3 ай бұрын

I like the black Mamba

@parkerarcangeli5276 Жыл бұрын

Where in New Hampshire are you located?

@EliteFireworks Жыл бұрын

Elite of NH is 68 NH-101A Amherst, NH 03031.

@carlrapp601 3 ай бұрын

Stick with the mom and pop stores you will get way better deals once you develop a relationship.. also 5 6 7 inch shells are nothing but empty space inside the shell stick with the old school Excalibur

@taybake21 2 ай бұрын

Located in Florida, heavy phantom influence in my area. Just learned about buying wholesale, but any recommendations on where to buy from? Really wanting to get more for my money, tired of the phantom bs

@Kevinw4040 2 ай бұрын

Phantom hates your guts right now. I don’t know how they sleep at night charging 250$ for a 24 canister pack.

@marcusmazzuca9367 2 ай бұрын

You’re totally right about excaliburs. But they used to be better. Just everyone knows the name

@ManiacalMidget13 2 ай бұрын

Fireworks... literally burning money. I think fireworks should be way cheaper

@johnperez93640 2 ай бұрын

Yup, thats how i see it too. Literally burning hard earned money. Sometimes the fuse is more exciting.

@kiethpederson7558 3 ай бұрын

Numbah one mistake is buying fireworks, its like watching money go up in flames. Don't get me wrong they're very kewl and entertaining but how much they cost for how long some last and or don't last. I spent a dung ton of money at black beards in myrtle beach. Maybe it was my age

@magicworldbyjorg Жыл бұрын

@Justinsheib85 3 ай бұрын

Most if not all fireworks are a scam in usa especially artillery shells and cakes. Most artillery shells sold in usa are not full a lot of extra cardboard. I have seen some illegal cakes before that were no more than 3 ft by 3ft and was a whole show pretty much. The shells are half the size it would be in usa and just as good a break if not better.

@thorpower1015 3 ай бұрын

Yes canisters are overpriced imo, repeaters I. Yup for 10 to 15 dollars for 16 to 28 shots.

@2phonebabyjay199 2 ай бұрын

Where can I buy replacement 4 inch canister shells( no mortor tube )

@stephenbeecher7545 2 ай бұрын

All canister shells are sold with morter tubes, by law.

@mkuehnle5950 2 ай бұрын

You recommend people to buy racks of tubes in a cube scenario where inevitably they have to reach over a two to fire the other two you should only be selling racks that are in a straight line my number one rule as a shooter is never reach over to whether it be on a cake whether it's on a rack and whether it's empty or not

@tboysen00 2 ай бұрын

The fuse them together and only light once!

@mkuehnle5950 2 ай бұрын

@@tboysen00 yes you are correct unfortunately people don't understand or realize put that shot can do

@dubltink 2 ай бұрын

If someone’s interested in and spending the money for a rack they’re expected to have the knowledge of how it’s intended to be used and fused. Not sure why someone would be trying to light 24 individual fuses. But if they did then that would be improper use of the launch device.

@albertofloresrico8465 5 ай бұрын

Area 51 has the best pricing

@bmxpyrojackson6201 2 ай бұрын

💯

@entradieo Жыл бұрын

I’ll say it again as I did months ago;.. Elite is one of the very few companies who are honest & upfront with their customers, and don’t try to play on the sales gimmicks.. 60 grams is 60 grams, save the empty cardboard, and save your wallet! Elite, I can’t wait until you guys offer online buying options!

@ReneeNme Жыл бұрын

What aggravates me is that there are KZbinrs (no names mentioned) uploading videos where they dissect shells over 4 inches and claim that there's 120+ grams of composition in them. They're lying.

@entradieo Жыл бұрын

@@ReneeNme amen! (Long rant here). I think it’s totally ridiculous as well!.. If you were to take an overwhelming majority of brands/kits off the shelf to dissent them, they will not exceed the 60 gram limit. There’s always one that pops up every now n then that exceeds the limit. I’ll go ahead n call a couple out because the word is already well out there, and has been flooding the Internet forums. By now, you bet the govt regulators are already well-aware unfortunately.. so trolls, plz skip my comment, the big word is unfortunately already out without my one comment here.. As saying, This year was the Master Shells; Besides dissecting, anyone who shot these know that it had to likely exceed the limit; the boom, the break, etc..A few Years before that, we had the Death Shells; If you saved some Death Shells from then, and compare it to a kit bought this year, there’s no comparison. The 60 grams was well-exceeded for that season. -Because of KZbinrs, dissectors, and just internet word in general, the government finds out swiftly, and the “good shells” are near impossible to find the next season or two. If you do find them, it’s likely a newer batch with the 60gram limit; such as when you buy a box of Death Shells today. -I can’t stand those tubers for many reasons; 1. A lot of them are click-baits and aren’t true weigh-ins and claim to exceed 60grams. 2. You’re making it easier for government to shut down “the good stuff” quicker. Overall, I think it’s best to play by the rules. As much as I love “the good gems”, it takes away from the other Brands that are doing it right & playing by the rules, and doing a damn good job at it I may add! There are many damn good shells out there that already play by the rules, and produce a damn-good result, with really good effects! Black Cat, Manhattan Project, Geisha Willows just to name a few.. Also, The overloads are just a cheating way to take up market space. I’d rather give my money to companies who are taking the effort to produce a good product which will be there for years to come, and still be great!.. 🤦‍♂️ 🤫 but I can’t resist a box or two of the gems 💎 going in my cart. Pyro On! Would love to hear what others have to say on this topic.

@endtables 3 ай бұрын

If you walk into a store selling a consumer 24 kit for over $100, just walk out and find another store!

@daniastopjik3287 3 ай бұрын

I just picked up one for $50. is that good

@johncosgrove2738 3 ай бұрын

I am a licensed Pyrotech and I can tell you that 60 grams is the limit and the bigger the shell the smaller the bang. The 5, 6, 7, etc size is the TUBE length not the shell. Tube length usually means a higher lift for the shell. Think about a rifle barrel. A longer barrel will increase the accuracy distance and the velocity of the projectile. The shell diameter is still 1.75 inches. So if you buy 1.75 inch nylon reinforced pipe designed for mortars (. they have the bottom of the tube plugged) you can buy just the shells (like we do) and reuse the mortar tubes for many years. Btw our. mortars are usually 1000 grams

@oldkingcrow777 3 ай бұрын

What you mean the 5,6,7 is tube length? You'd also think it lifts less high due to higher weight from star comp but 60g limit on BP/etc The canister shells are 100% different lengths. Spent hours wiring em up and the 6 inchers are longer than the 5 inchers

@Kevinw4040 2 ай бұрын

John what length tube is best for building my own rack? Is there longer than 15” would those be better? The rifle example is excellent.

@arielperez3613 3 ай бұрын

Don’t buy at Phantom or TNT❗️

@fnqrbasher6796 3 ай бұрын

I fell into the phantom trap then found a wholesale store close by now I pretty much only buy by the case unless there's something I want that they don't offer by the case!

@BigClaunch 3 ай бұрын

But if you become a “Premium” member like me it get 50% OFF 😮. I wish I knew better a couple months ago 🤦‍♂️

@fnqrbasher6796 3 ай бұрын

@BigClaunch yeah I get the 50 percent off at phantom and wholesale still saves me money over phantom premium

@Kevinw4040 2 ай бұрын

Even if you hit the “buy 1 get 2 free” coupon is 90$ on one of their 24 packs. They charge like 259$ for 1.

@fnqrbasher6796 2 ай бұрын

@@Kevinw4040 buying wholesale if you get cases of 4 you get them cheaper sometimes you get them around 80 per 24 sometimes cheaper

@topstaruser00 Жыл бұрын

Not all Buy One Get Two's are gimmicks. The stores who are generally "gimmicky" are the chains and big brand stores. I have found true Buy One Get Two single location places around me. their BOG2's are FAR better deals than anything else. I have seen canister kits and NOABS going for $300 around me...these shops, offered the same $300 kits and NOAB's BOG2 at a lower price. ($250-$260) which was a far better deal than anything anywhere. In the end, knowledge and research is key. If you know what you want, know the industry and prices...you can find places that have amazing offers that aren't gimmicks. Also, I know you hate Excalibur (you mention better canisters than Excalibur all the time)...but Excalibur is popular because when it came out it was king. It will always be king because it set a new standard. who cares if more or better canisters were made, that's what happens when something is great. everyone tries to surpass it, and usually do. Excalibur spurred on this competition and will always have a place in true pyros hearts. =)

@oldkingcrow777 3 ай бұрын

That's still the gimmick. If you can get NOABs for $75-90 at a good place, then doing "BOG2" @ $250 is literally the gimmick in action. Tent in i wanna say Nebraska had legit prices, the only BOG2 stuff was for the individual candles and stuff and it would be like $2 for 3 then. Their NOAB 3"ers ranged from $60-85

@topstaruser00 3 ай бұрын

@@oldkingcrow777not in Ohio. Our prices are atrocious because Phantom has influence in the state….the BoG2 ends up being a phenomenal deal for a NOAB as mentioned. Most of these places work with you anyway.