Steroids Are AWESOME (The Truth No One Will Tell You..) | Vigorous Steve

[@VigorousSteve]

Thanks again for having me on gentlemen 😎

[@cg-fitgaming7944]

Thank you for all you share

[@MeanBeanComedy]

You've got to be one of the most consistent KZbinrs in this field. You've been cranking out great content for years, and every time you fall out of my algorithm and I have to search you up, I see dozens of fantastic new uploads that I missed. Thanks, Hoss. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙌🏻💪🏻😁👍🏻

[@spedmonie416]

Nice seeing you making your away around multiple channels wish your family and future child the best Steve

[@martdag1950]

You’re the best Steve, love your content and information

[@joshgunn2241]

@vigoroussteve in case you haven't seen it, BD did a study recently with large subcutaneous injection volumes up to 5ml of viscous liquid subq being tolerable by over 90% of subjects. I apologize I do t have the citation on hand but it was easy to find the study

[@BibleBeltBodybuilder]

Just to clarify. Around the 17 minute mark Steve makes the comment that you can’t find a lifter who has trained for 15 years without drugs. Well I am one of those exceptions. I started training at 11 and this past August 11th I turned 27 years old. So we are 16 years deep in consistent training without steroid (anabolic or androgenic) use. Not even SARMS or peptides.

[@willeGG17]

How fucking boring.

[@TheHungerInYourHaunt]

You don’t even lift bro, just kidding, looking phenomenal.

[@drabit7230]

11? Do we really consider lifting at 11 even substantial. You literally didn’t even hit puberty yet.

[@BibleBeltBodybuilder]

@@drabit7230 yes it’s substantial. You’d be surprised considering how fast kids in China develop for Olympic lifting and they start even younger.

[@myhandlehasbeenmishandled]

Steve is well educated and clearly means well but sometimes he is just full of shit. Still love the guy. I've learned more from his videos then from anyone and anything else.

[@shoco1094]

Great combo to talk and awesome to see Steve and Dave on here together!

[@tylerthompson9225]

This is in my top 5 Table Talks. Would love to see a sequel!

[@codyberger7940]

Good topics gentlemen! The truth of the body building industry and the dangers of young andorgen abuse that can stunt and mess up your endocrine system and the importance of every hormone and how important your training style and diet plays on not just your gains in the gym but for your overall health and awareness to this and the positivity of longevity! Thank you for being good role models for our generation.

[@myhandlehasbeenmishandled]

Long life is not a sign of healthy or high quality life. Frankly every time I hear that I call bull. There is plenty of elderly men that need others to make their food and wipe their ass. Both of my grandfathers' died too early. One died due to gastric cancer (early 60). And other one (mid 70s) starved because there was no one to take care of him. He was too weak to walk, let alone make his own food. I don't want to be 93 like my grandmother and have others give me baths. She wears diapers. Has diabetes. Heart problems. She forgets to eat and she forgets that she ate. You can talk to her and 5 minutes later she'll be asking the same questions, and this happens multiple times a day. And other times she just stares off into distance. She grew up on a farm. Never smoked. Never drank. Always took care of herself. Yet she had pancreatic cancer in her 50s. No thank you. I'll rather die in my 60s feeling strong and independent.

[@seamusmcinnes2678]

I can't take any amount of AI without major side effects, unfortunately. Actually feel good with E2 in the high 90's.

[@Jimminityjabooboo]

Pin daily with an insulin pin and you won’t need an AI

[@josephscott6459]

I fare better my self with higher E2 in range with my higher test levels. When my range gets off ( lower E2) I very rapidly start feeling like glass. Also mental well-being goes in the trash shortly after.

[@trenaceandblackmetal5621]

"AI" sides are low E2 sides

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

sounds great

[@seamusmcinnes2678]

@@trenaceandblackmetal5621 Nope. I got the bloods to prove it. Some people just get sides from the AI itself. My E2 is in the 90's and if I take just .25 of Anastrozole, I get horrible sides. Before you say hyper responder, I got bloods 48 hrs. later and it didn't touch my E2 levels.

[@BluntsenBurner]

I hope KZbin is paying you guys a ton of money, had to hear like 30 ads through this video lol, amazing content though, this stuff is amazing for those of looking to safely enhance, and also make the most out of the risks we’re taking

[@GringoEarthquake]

37 here still drug free training since 17. Played competitive hockey since i was 7 years old till 27.. true heavy lifting since i was about 19.. Some people still do it. I wanna do this into old age. Learn to rest well, eat smart, hydrate and train hard and you might find you can love without it or at least till your much much older 💪 thank you for the great content guys

[@willeGG17]

How fucking boring. The same as a vegan, everybody knows what you are doing because you can’t help but blurt it out.

[@rdallas81]

You made an excellent choice. Keep up the good work 👏. Seeing way too many terrible outcomes over the years of people using gear. Lost count how many 20 to 40 year olds passed away

[@willeGG17]

@@rdallas81 you haven’t lost count at all that’s a real overstatement. You may have known a few. I would question what number you can actually count up to if you have “lost count”.

[@sagesarabia5053]

This guy is the biggest weasel. He exposed liver king but didn’t have enough belief in himself do it on his own channel. Instead he sent the info to Derek from more plates.

[@patriknord998]

dhea and pregnenolone is impossible to get a hold of in Scandinavian, not Even underground after my experience.

[@BuJammy]

We're vey lucky in th UK to have good UGLs. The ones in America... oof.

[@echtfitnet]

Didn't the people in Thailand still say Sa-teepe just like they said Sah-tepaan though

[@nonoffensiveperson9877]

What a crossover

[@icejamrecords]

Reupload?

[@stickler6312]

Ego and Money....that sums it up.

[@tommcguire6773]

Steve looks like a different dude off the roids. 10 years younger

[@DrewPWebos]

About to try S 23 sarm. Anyone have experience with it? I'm also on TRT have used other anabolics.

[@mattmason4589]

Don't waste your time. Sarms are junk. But you do you

[@sothasil1359]

​@@mattmason4589it should be noted that yk11 is high key pretty fuckin nuts when paired with gear. Its just risky. My buddy got myocarditis when he comboed it with test and low dose tren

[@Ice-Sik-ill]

@@mattmason4589what’s best to use? I just don’t wanna lose my hair

[@TheBaitShopGuy]

Another bald chrome dome where once a full hairline was presumed to formerly reside

[@Ice-Sik-ill]

He shaves his head and isn’t bald…

[@Jacobibrahim2718]

Steroids have been a game-changer in my fitness routine, providing the extra edge I needed to advance more rapidly. When used with careful planning and consideration for overall health, they can be a powerful tool for anyone serious about reaching their peak potential.

[@DiegoPatrick6274]

Test Enan is commonly used in hormone replacement therapy to address low testosterone levels, promoting muscle growth and improving overall well-being. Tren, on the other hand, greatly enhances muscle size and strength. Speeds up recovery from injuries as well.

[@declanh5434]

Totally agree. Steroids helped me recover faster and maintain muscle mass, especially during intense training or after injury. It's amazing how they can support bone health as well, which is crucial for people with conditions like osteoporosis.

[@Joeharvey-k9v]

There’s no doubt to the benefits of steroids. Honestly, it has greatly impacted my life. It played a major role in achieving my desired physique. People should learn not to abuse these substances and act like they are all bad.

[@RobertHelton-h7f]

Hey everyone, I’m looking for reliable sources for both steroids and protein supplements. I know it’s crucial to be cautious with these, especially with steroids, so I want to make sure I’m getting them from trustworthy sources. For protein supplements, I’m also interested in recommendations for reputable brands. Any suggestions or advice on where to find safe and high quality options?

[@BrettPeters-hq6wn]

Jeremyproteins is the person you want. He's the most knowledgeable about muscle-building supplements that I know.

[@mightyquinn5135]

As a 51 yr old who started fukin around with steriods at 48 just to see what it was about I'll be honest I wish I had had access to steriods in my early 20s when I was playing sports and boxing. The truth is I would have taken them then (early 90s) but didn't know anywhere to get them. And ai can't help but wonder how much better I'd have been.

[@reuterss306]

Not worth it. Id rather live longer and healthier.

[@everythingsbetternaked473]

you'd be dead now...

[@Hittdogg17]

I was chasing a pro bodybuilding career in the early 90s. Back then we had Weider magazines telling us that pro bodybuilders were not like that because of steroids, “here buy this supplement”. And then I slowly started learn the truth, long before the internet so it wasn’t until the late 90s and a magazine called Muscle Media 2000. Where they told the truth. I met Lou Ferrigno during his comeback and I was done trying to be a pro bodybuilder.

[@arthurfonzarelli9828]

​@@reuterss306there's 0 evidence to state if somebody use therapeutic doses to bump themselves into the upper normal range that they're cutting into their life expectancy. In fact I make the argument they would live longer with higher testosterone levels especially in this endocrite disruptor world we are now in

[@myhandlehasbeenmishandled]

​@@reuterss306long life is not a sign of healthy or high quality life. Frankly every time I hear that I call bull. There is plenty of elderly men that need others to make their food and wipe their ass. Both of my grandfathers' died too early. One died due to gastric cancer. And other one starved because there was no one to take care of him. He was too weak to walk, let alone make his own food. I don't want to be 93 like my grandmother and have others give me bath. She wears diapers. Has diabetes. Heart problems. She forgets to eat and she forgets that she ate. You can talk to her and 5 minutes later she'll be asking the same questions, and this happens multiple times a day. She grew up on a farm. Never smoked. Never drank. Always took care of herself. Yet she had pancreatic cancer in her 50s. No thank you. I'll rather die in my 60s feeling strong and independent.

[@nathansmith8187]

If you want to know what actually works and works the best, just check the IOC banned substances list. If it works it's there, if it doesn't work it isn't there. Simple as.

[@qpghostqp9551]

Cause it's just that simple come on you know it's not

[@HkFinn83]

@@qpghostqp9551 it’s a good guideline. Occasionally they’re a little late to ban something like sarms, but they get there eventually

[@einispro3740]

​@@qpghostqp9551but it is a good place to start

[@shawnryan2197]

That's an uneducated comment. Good luck with it.

[@bo1g3r]

It's 2024, it's not hard to find out what works and what doesn't.

[@sethmirez920]

57:54 guy walks by and farts.

[@kusjr4388]

Why in the f does he have 3 in of steel hanging out of his face

[@kusjr4388]

And a double chin

[@EPMcloughlin]

Dudes like magnet fishing ….with his head !!!

[@JACKPOTTT777]

Matt does fitness aint natty i dont care about his bloodwork .. aint natty

[@adamkennedy9014]

Yea he downsized during those tests & used his ankle injury as an excuse

[@WarrenAppel]

I live in Medellin , Colombia as a permanent resident . Steroids are legal here just come and buy them

[@sagesarabia5053]

Bro you’re a liar. LK is a liar but so are you. What you did, should be illegal.

[@florius9804]

Listen to it 2 times now love how he talks about the other things no one talks about other steroids

[@myhandlehasbeenmishandled]

I just wish people would be honest about where they get quality stuff in the States. Anyone can get underground garbage. I've never been on PEDs. I don't hang around gym bros. I lift on my own at my basement. Now that I'm mid 40s i plan on eventually getting on TRT and hopefully adding a bit extra. My test has always been on a lower side just not so low for a doctor to put me on TRT. I'll have to see how my levels get by the time I'm 50 and 60. Personally, long life is not one of the characteristics of quality life. What's the point of long life if you are not capable of physically taking care of yourself.

[@hanskazan7403]

These days in 2024 most ugl's arent made in bathtubes 😂 if you do a little rechearch on the internet you can find alot of good sources who tested their stuff and you can just do a bloodtest to see if its good. Most stuff is legit these days.

[@williamgregory1531]

I always knew steriods were awesome

[@riggs9688]

I could never go back to training naturally and think of all the years I wasted believing I could get the physique I wanted that way. I would've started a lot sooner had I known. I see the same people in the gym making no progress. That was me years ago. Thinking some magic supplement or the new training routine would work this time. They're awesome cus they work if you put the work in!

[@IFBBProYeo]

1:18:53 every now and then people need to be checked. We police our own and this was the right thing to do.

[@bkb04g]

All 3 guys look red AF and sound a little out of breath just speaking…hmmmm…..

[@afterdark6822]

Steve on elitefts? It doesn't get any better.

[@prescottosegie]

Good interview yall 😎💪🏾 keep up the good content

[@DogMeat425]

Its funny how people always say underground labs = bath tub gear. Nobody makes anabolics in their bathtub lol

[@myhandlehasbeenmishandled]

Yeah. But they say that because some of them might as well make it like that. Cleanliness is not one of their guarantees. Not to mention most use synthetic oils.

[@cgrado]

For the 50,000th time, **** the WHO.

[@Dmanz67]

The who has saved literally a Billion lives.

[@rishabhjain7690]

Yesssss

[@richardjennings4685]

I have been enjoying these table talks Dave, this one is good as well. I trained natural from 12 to 43 and started noticing low T symptoms and went to get checked out, my results came back as a total T of 300 and started on 0.3 ml twice a week coming to 120mg a week. My total T is up to 900 and I feel great. I have more energy, I sleep better, not feeling depressed anymore, and I heal better between training sessions. It has been great for me.

[@sirdanoman]

Brother! I'm the same age and started the same dose 5 weeks ago! Nothing significant yet but I'm a patient man.

[@Calvinmob681]

I just started. I'm 44, and my Test was at 490. I'm on 200mg a week.

[@experienceaccelerated7039]

I’m really glad you could receive your gender affirming care. Alot of men are struggling with their masculinity these days so it’s really good big pharma is eager to step in and make some money off these beta males.

[@mightyquinn5135]

Get ya some dbol​@@sirdanoman

[@logosfocus]

the stuff is easy to get but the info on what to take is rare..

[@miiiikee_]

how old is this podcast? Steve is back on the good stuff now lol

[@thomascuffari4670]

Does any of this cause high blood pressure?

[@shawnryan2197]

Yes

[@willeGG17]

Google exists.

[@SamanthaUrbina-p7b]

Wendy Crescent

[@RonaldThomas-b1t]

I for the life of me. Will never understand why someone who has good or decent genetics, who has no desire to turn pro.. would hop on gear esp underground gear.... all the sht u hear about it/ side effetcs etc... youd be crazy... i get it. If your goal is to be a PRO bber.. but other then that.. these kids/ ppl with good genetics hopping on gear and fckin themsekves up is kinda mid blowing how stupid it is

[@RonaldThomas-b1t]

Yea after hearing all the sht about underround roids and bad aide effects from them/ gear... ppl are nuts to use undeground stuff... and imo unless u plan on turnjng pro i think. Its stupid to even hop on legit gear.... unless ur a pro or ur test levels are superlow/ your old... youd be crazy to... and i think ALOT of these ppl from this generation are gonna have BiG regrets longterm and major problems with there health...

[@peterschvartz4139]

Enjoy Steve videos and been longtime listener but Steve off Juice looks like kid with tiny neck and and head bigger then shoulders compare Jouiced steve🎉🎉🎉 good show guys..

[@hummelperformance]

This is old content reuploaded with Jeff Nippards STUPID video title....in attempt to get more...views. Lol

[@BigGuwap420]

13:44 I think the amount of education available will improve the safety of those who would had already been considering peds in general

[@BB-ni8vy]

19:30 no ways teenagers T is 1500-1600. Between all the chemicals in the food water and air and how most young teenage males look extremely feminine there’s just no way

[@KONGDADDY69]

Agreed. Maybe back in the early 90s they were that high but definitely not now

[@gregorydacosta2102]

A genetic outlier may have that amount. The average teenager these days, I agree, will not see those high ranges. What will blow your mind is to think about the genetic outliers that do see these numbers today - just think of what their potential could be with a clean environment and clean food.

[@foesublime]

mine was 1300 at 33 years old naturally so I would imagine mine was 1500 when I was a teen.

[@tomlewis8522]

@@foesublime bollocks 😂😂😂

[@Jack-e5t]

❤

[@dtec6025]

I like your show, but I can't look at that piece of metal hanging out of his face. He is a great guy and smart. It just freaks me out.

[@testxer]

I like to call it "HOT".... hormone optimization therapy

[@Hittdogg17]

Speaking of scar tissue…. I’ve seen needles bent from scar tissue

[@johnlopez9014]

Coach Greg on his way to make an infomercial using this😂

[@BigGuwap420]

Started Testosterone at 19 (2019) and I’m still on only as TRT I don’t recommend anyone take the plunge until they’ve maxed out their natural potential as well as exhausting all your PEDs available that are not the real deal such as sarms etc- unless you’re planning to make a career of bodybuilding or you’re involved in sports sarms and dialing in your regime will get you beyond your imagined goal physique

[@rdallas81]

Wtf are you on anything? You're 19! I'm 43. Never used anything and People ask if I'm on....lol.

[@jasonwright1494]

How risky is TRT and HCG for someone who had a Covid blood clot 4 years ago ? (Not a jab clot) I didn’t get the shot . I had my testosterone checked it was 293 .

[@qwerty-rh6ht]

you might be better off consulting things like that with some good doctors instead asking it in the yt comment section

[@tuckersmith6311]

Well the real truth is the UG stuff isn’t nearly as good as pharma grade manufacturing. Not all test is test as some will say. You must must must have the proper excipients and delivery mechanism for it to be utilized. Most people don’t know or deny this.

[@Pieter_Lion]

Can you elaborate on the delivery mechanism? What are the correct excipients used in pharma grade stuff?

[@wread1982]

Pharmacom Labs is pharma grade and works great with their testing results online

[@deanwinchester119]

And not all Pharma is as good as some UGL that OD their gear 10%

[@stu_gahtz1740]

I still wear “whatever” to the gym 🤷‍♂️

[@Musclebodyarmor]

That was awesome, thank you guys!

[@haikeaintiaani9183]

Steroids have enchanted his english also its great accent also wanished wtf

[@jonathan6009]

Great episode

[@embersoflight_]

Who is the metal head dude?

[@vanillagorilla9841]

Someone who shouldn’t walk by a big magnet, but if he does I’d like to see it!

[@ashog1426]

Always usually gives good advices and likable guy

[@EPMcloughlin]

Dudes like magnet fishing ….with his head !!!

[@NobotyBoi]

I like using bait

[@ATFstein]

Fuck the algorithm!

[@hristoslavilchev5531]

Comment for Steve passing by

[@xharlielara]

Is this video as a podcast anywhere?

[@josephscott6459]

Great blend of greater minds!

[@Malcolmcampbell1997]

Well, I decided to do my first sub Q injection after watching this video, and now the fat in my stomach hurts so goddamn bad and I’m fucking pissed. This shit burns like fire, why the hell would anybody do this?

[@19gizzard]

Test or something else? I was considering subQ too but I'm a giant fussy when it comes to needles... the glutes are hard enough for me to adhere to!

[@mjmci3]

Depends on the carrier oil and also the speed of administration. Test E in caster oil hurts like a bitch if done quickly - but go slowly and nearly zero PIP.

[@Malcolmcampbell1997]

@@mjmci3 i did .4ml of Test Cyp. Shit is still blown up like a balloon and tender. Never had PIP so bad in my life

[@Avies48]

I sub q everything smaller dosages more times per week…

[@JGGwinnipeg]

Steve is awesome

[@IFBBProYeo]

Can't wait to watch this!! ☕☕

[@YeshaYahubenysrayl]

Awesome interview 👏🏿 🔥🔥🔥

[@johannponpon5347]

Ow to spot solvant from oil?

[@pasca1177]

You can't. Oil itself is a sovent for lipophilic compounds like anabolic steroids. Any injectable solution uses solvents to disolve the active compound, be it pharmagrade or underground. What he's trying to say is underground labs will use more toxic solvents at higher concentrations. For example some UG labs will use an industrial creosote based initial solvent to disolve the powder, then will mix that with the carrier oil. Also they might add a higher concentration of benzyl alcohol to sterilize their product since the working spaces are not as clean, which can make the injections painful. They might also use a cheap carrier oil, likely bought in bulk from the food industry.

[@sothasil1359]

Cant believe we didnt get the patented vigorous front double bi😮

[@LouCondon-j1v]

How the hell do you inject Test 200 which is in oil SQ? I mean I use an insulin syringe sq for my diabetes but that needle is very thin.

[@PanosPlevritis]

😂

[@chocoborider87]

You inject it the same way you inject insulin. I find the oil easier to draw actually since the air bubble stays at the top. With insulin I always get air bubbles all over the place (but I'm drawing it from penfills which can't be pressurized).

[@kane6529]

You gotta use a thicker drawing syringe and backload into an insulin pen

[@mattstakeontheancients7594]

Personally use a 27 gauge needle for my TRT. Take .45 ml twice a week and inject in my lower abdomen. Honestly doesn’t take very long to pull.

[@Avies48]

Easy peazy… just mesage it afterwards

[@gaz7978]

Vigorous Steve is a legend and his knowledge is much appreciated 💪

[@stickler6312]

Early graves heading their way

[@trenaceandblackmetal5621]

@@stickler6312cry natty

[@stickler6312]

​@@trenaceandblackmetal5621just a fact

[@MaestroOfficial]

@@stickler6312cry natty

[@stickler6312]

​@@MaestroOfficialOriginal, not...

[@Jeff_Sen]

Bro I Don’t give a shit

[@johnmorris77]

I feel bad for Steve, we just got pregnant with our 2nd and all I do is cycle off gear and hit clomid for 2 months

[@young_herc]

Does your wife use PEDs?

[@Legionarivss]

Ronnie Coleman got himself atleast four children. Probably never got off, or frooze his sperm. But yes can be hard.

[@GG-wg1yh]

Might also be his wife's genetics.

[@leeosbornesings]

Congrats brother 👦

[@BB-ni8vy]

9:54 terrible analogy. Guys in that age group probably actually need TRT lol

[@warzonefitness8937]

Staying natural is even more awesome. Must suck to need to pin needles and worry about if the drugs are real. Id rsther bemch 405 natural than bench 600 on drugs, all fucking day. Weak men need steroids, remember that.

[@leeosbornesings]

Each to their own brother

[@seanlewis4544]

I'd rather pin high mast and low test. Look like a god and get way more women than Natty's who look like dog sh 😂😂😂

[@ItsMe-wm4mc]

I used to do reps with 405 all natural. 20 years later my energy motivation and strength slowly went to shit. Bloodwork showed low levels free t, total t and bioavailable. Started TRT and the changes so far have been gratifying and positive on 110mg/ wk/ev 3 days.

[@qwerty-rh6ht]

@@seanlewis4544 get way more men you mean?

[@Richiefitness]

1:1:18 your morally messed up you helped athletes cheat on competition shut up dude

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Imagine thinking sports were ever legit. 😂 No.

[@chocoborider87]

Athletes would hire him as a coach to beat drug tests in competitions where the use of PEDs is prohibited. His gig was to basically help people cheat in sports.

[@wread1982]

All athletes take peds

[@lovesgibson]

Remember when Steve betrayed the privacy and trust of liver king just so that he could get some publicity and attention over the downfall of Liver King?

[@parabob2359]

He outed a total fraud. Nothing wrong with that.

[@lovesgibson]

@@parabob2359 I just think there’s a level of hypocrisy and fake moral superiority going on. They even mention in their discussion in this video, on why one might not want to disclose they are on roids. I don’t even like liver king, but in his defense he never said, “take my supplements and do what I do, and you WILL look like me”. I’m sure you can argue on some level there is deception going on, but it’s funny how the public acts like he’s so awful, yet they don’t care how bodybuilders 15-20 years ago would all claim natural for the supplement company money. I just think it’s annoying how nowadays there is all of this, “i HAVE to expose this person!!! Because im such a morally good person and it means so much to me!!”, When really we all know that’s BS, and the person making the videos or putting out the exposing is just looking for views/money.

[@mtman2025]

​@@parabob2359 ya Steve's on the right side of history. He helped send the culture in the correct direction. The fitness industry has always been and still is wildy fraudulent, but Steve helped nudge it just a little bit towards integrity, and we all benefit from that. Fuck Liver King. He wanted to get rich by making us all stupider.

[@stunna2305]

downfall? His bank account has only gotten fatter, he inherently doesn't care about his image or morals.

[@johnlopez9014]

Real hero

[@WORKOUTSOLUTIONS]

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