Eloquencer Full Review. The Right Eurorack Modular Sequencer For You?

[@Quantumspace23]

I appreciate this video and love that you have gone so deep into it, but I wish you hadn't played the same beat in the background for over 9 minutes!

[@SonicVoltage]

Hi, thank you. Yes, I can see your point. It was more a matter of trying to not take for ever to complete production of this specific review. Stopping to change or add fresh patterns or even sounds, frequently, would have required additional time. So those few patterns are there just as data to test features on. Probably I could have stopped the sequencer in places, just to give ears a break :). Thank you for taking the time to comment, useful feedback.

[@Quantumspace23]

I'm still watching it right now :) ---- Great way to spend part of a Saturday night. I hope you will make more of these longer looks at modules. I subscribed to your channel hoping to see more tutorials like this one!

[@SonicVoltage]

Excellent! Thank you, will do :)

[@midinerd]

It's really easy for that to be tuned out if you're used to it. Ever feel bad for a roommate or neighbor when you "space back-in" and realize you've been looping for like 15 minutes? Poor fellaz. cheers

[@kidblastsoundsystem3570]

Yea, that pattern got old fast

[@Wunderkammerdandy]

The ULTIMATE review!! Awesome job! Thanks a lot 🙏🏻 Just bought my own Eloquencer and love it.

[@SonicVoltage]

Thank you! 🙏glad to hear the video was useful! Yes I also love the eloquencer is so easy to use yet powerful.

[@metokyo4960]

I was trying very hard to watch this tutorial, but this bloody seqence in background.... man!!!

[@metokyo4960]

Really? Heart?

[@JureJerebic]

This

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Mine just came and it is my favorite eurorack sequencer hands down so far and I have a bunch of modular sequencers. I love the ability to create dozens of presets, songs, patterns that is not possible. Reminds me of modular elektron but on steroids. I am still learning to create parts, patterns and song mode.

[@SonicVoltage]

Capable and very easy/fun to use. I hope you having more and more fun with it. Thank you for your comment!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

@@SonicVoltage I am and very cool sequencer. But I just got a new Vector 512 sequencer so been using that to learn as well as the WMD Metron and Stillson Hammer. Eloquencer is great being able to view all channel sequences in one screen. One question: if I want to sequence a CV track and gate track from one channel, is that even possible? When I program a CV track and gate track from say channel 1 it over writes each other.

[@SonicVoltage]

@@GuitarsAndSynths Hi, yes, in the options you can separate Cv/Gate (CV and gates can be linked or unlinked). You can also have CV output just for LFOs and use the Gates on their own for that same track 👍

[@numerus]

I am not all the way through this review and I am already subscribed. Thank you for the in depth insight.

[@SonicVoltage]

Thanks! I hope you will enjoy the other half of the videos and the other videos too :)

[@chsm72]

Thanks for this detailed review. I just want to say, at times the melody is distracting. I would suggest to use sounds different to your voice timbre for review purposes. By any means, great knowledge and great review. Thanks again Subscribed

[@khaledadams4329]

Yeah you do such a great job explaining the functionality. Thanks, I just ordered one.

[@SonicVoltage]

Thank you for your comment, I'll back with more videos covering the Eloquencer newest features... very soon. Thanks

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

me too! half the price of vector and better than erica black sequencer which still has bugs to work out

[@SimonRedfernLondonBerlin]

Great review! Watched it over several sessions. Nice style of presenting and nice tune too! Quite catchy. I saw the Eloquencer used on many stands at Superbooth in Berlin the other week, so it seems appreciated by others in the Eurorack industry too. I also met an engineer from Winter, seemed like a nice guy. Thanks again for the review!

[@SonicVoltage]

Hi, Thank You for your comment! Appreciated. Yes, that is true, I noticed it being used by other Eurorack Makers as well. Probably no sequencer is perfect and no sequencer does absolutely 'everything' 'everyone' would like but the number of features and ease of use made the Eloquencer popular with many users.

[@noxfubar]

This is very nice and the the patch that is played is very enjoyable. I can at least get to song mode on my eloquencer after 16:24

[@SonicVoltage]

Thank you for your comment 👍😀

[@eddraper]

Well done. This looks like exactly what I was looking for an in-rack sequencer.

[@SonicVoltage]

Cool :)

[@Mechabuilder]

Super review. Now we are in 2019. Nobody have some news about update ? "Mod" mode still not working on Firmware Version 1.2.0.. This "mode" (push-button ) is on the eloquencer from the begin...

[@SonicVoltage]

hi, just published an update video on the Eloquencer, will be covering more updates in following videos as well.

[@pel0azul]

This review is amazing! Thank you for the wealth of detail!

[@SonicVoltage]

Excellent, glad to hear you liked it!

[@SymaticStar]

Thanks for a fantastic thorough review, I love your style and also the length of vid is great :)

[@SonicVoltage]

Excellent, thank you!

[@PepperandCaseysRV]

Thanks man. Just ordered one for my solar powered RV modular videos lol. Excited. Your videos helped my decision, undoubtedly.

[@SonicVoltage]

Excellent, thank you for your comment 👍

[@kidblastsoundsystem3570]

I just bought mine from Control in Brooklyn

[@SonicVoltage]

Have fun!

[@jacco1967]

Thank you for this tutorial, this could be my next sequencer.

[@SonicVoltage]

Thank you, Winter Modular has a new firmware coming up as well

[@SonicVoltage]

You are welcome, Winter Modular should have a new Firmware out pretty soon.

[@OliverWagner]

Thank you very much for this detailed video. A perfect kick start for my Eloquencer :-)

[@SonicVoltage]

new videos covering newer features added since 'this' video coming soon... next video in this series should be out in a few days... Thank you for watching!

[@ariksalomon8400]

THANKS for your explanation. What whould add value for me is if you could explain how I use AUX to change Pitch in a second sequencer (e.g. Metropolis) .

[@sunilsolanki]

Subbed! Thanks for this detailed review. LineOfControl on Gearslutz and Muffs

[@SonicVoltage]

Thank you!

[@matthewmeldon8852]

please do a "quick start" type video for this! I've got one and am finding the manual anything but "intuitive"...

[@SonicVoltage]

Will do! Thanks

[@oscillosaurus]

Great video and nice channel, subscribed :)

[@SonicVoltage]

Thank you, I appreciate your support!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Reminds me of the Elektron sequencer only for Eurorack.

[@originalfallinggirl]

You are so awesome! Thank you!

[@SonicVoltage]

Oh, great timing with your comment, nice one...thank you. I am actually in the middle of working on the script, right now, for my next Eloquencer Video going over new features from latest firmware... got a small hybrid modular/midi setup sorted/tested the other day. New videos will start appearing soon. Thanks!

[@originalfallinggirl]

@@SonicVoltage thank you 🙏🏻 thank you 🙏🏻 thank you 🙏🏻🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@SonicVoltage]

@@originalfallinggirl :) 🙏🏻🙌

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

@@SonicVoltage yes, you have wonderful tutorials and explanations even though you do sound like Marvin the martian :-) all good as he is super smart guy

[@orangewiggler6838]

Thanks for this!!!

[@SonicVoltage]

You are welcome!

[@MuslimShortanov]

Thanks for video ! nice work. Can you please tell me can I set up individual clock divide (speed of sequence) for each individual track ?

[@SonicVoltage]

yes individual clock divider per track

[@MuslimShortanov]

SonicVoltage thanks man !

[@SonicVoltage]

no problem!

[@christoroppolo8742]

Interesting. 🎶👽✌🏻Christo

[@jamalyannicguzmansierra7996]

Thx for the video and for explaining everything so well.

[@chatolars]

Great and extensively in-depth review! When live recording this sequencer doesn’t have something like a click track does it?

[@kebrooify]

Is it possible to record a sequence from an external gear.. like Im not a big fan of turning knobs to set the pitch on each note..and I find the piano roll pretty cool but limited! Hence my question: if I play notes lets say from a keystep can I record my sequence in real time on the eloquencer?? if that feature is onboard..It is the machine of my dreams !! and ll cancel my Hermod pre order! haha :p

[@deOrbiter]

Very nice demo, thanks! Did you say there is only a division by 4 for every track? I don't get it, sometimes it's hard to understand what you're saying - the music is a bit too loud... But: if you are in track division mode - push the encoder to see other options. There are many division and multiplying options for every single track.

[@SonicVoltage]

Thank you. Yes, for next video, music will be not so loud sorry :) and yes that was a mistake I forgot to edit! I knew there was one more thing I had to change before rendering the video... Thank you for pointing it out. I cannot remember if I go back on the point later in the video when I show other track related stuff I will need to have a look. But yes there are a number of Mult/Div per track. Thanks!

[@88pluto52]

Great video, thanks! Is it possible to use cv output to modulate on other modules? can the cv output voltage be non-quantized?

[@SonicVoltage]

You can output CV value per step, I use that sometime, for example, to change parameters on a snare, or for those modules where you can change wave or sample via CV voltage I do that so I can have a different sound-selection (on another module) per step. But I am pretty sure the LFO feature is coming soon!

[@88pluto52]

thanks again!

[@BrooseWayniac]

excellent and brilliant in deep video... much preciated investing your time! also brilliant 4 to the floor track.../ your voiceover could be a bit balanced vs the sound of the system... is velocity madeable with the eleoquencer?

[@SonicVoltage]

Hi, thank you for your comment! I did not understand what you were asking "is velocity madeable with the eleoquencer?" The Eloquencer buttons are not velocity sensitive if that's what you were asking

[@BrooseWayniac]

SonicVoltage iam very used to the elektron sequencingsystem... i just moved to modular and my big question is how i could make self controlled drums ampvelocity? if the second clap should have lower volicity than the first clap or a upscaling hihat ( but not randomly )

[@SonicVoltage]

any voice you want to control the velocity for as in 'volume' you can send to a VCA (e.g. send the Clap sound to the VCA Input)... then you can use CV Voltage to control the VCA. So, you could send sequenced CV (Control Voltage) values to the CV Input on the VCA which will open the VCA depending on the CV values. Or if you have a Mixer which has CV control over channels level (VCA control through a CV Input on the mixer) you could send all your drum voices (or any type of voice) to this CV controllable mixer and use Sequenced CVs to sequence velocity/volume changes per channel, or you can use LFOs to CV inputs, for example a SineWave to the CV Input control of a VCA will cause the volume of that VCA output to cycle low to high to low to high, etc...

[@yanjob]

There is really no such thing as "velocity" in the modular world, per se, as this is defined by the time interval between hitting the top vs bottom contacts on a midi keyboard. I'm not sure how its calculated on pad controllers (probably aftertouch pressure, like on an MPC), but you would need a device or chain of devices capable of translating that value into a voltage. You can use certain modern analog synths, or Silent Way plugins or various midi to CV converters to have an actual velocity output that you bring in from the computer/midi worlds. However there are many useful techniques for creating accents, with or without an actual velocity parameter. Filters and Low Pass Gates (LPG) are key, as brighter sounds are perceived as being louder. An LPG would do both, dulling higher frequencies when the circuit isn't fired to its maximum volume.Also, for drums, LONGER sounds are often perceived as accents. There are many drum modules nowadays that have trig and accent inputs, allowing you to simply use an additional gate sequence, but that only achieves 2 values: accent, or no accent. A simple trick would be to patch the CV out of the Eloquencer to the Envelope decay on your kick or snare (or HH) - then you can raise the note or use the Eloquencer's LFO's to create more varied accents in your pattern. I really love that you can easily add controlled randomization to this technique; random velocities are not so easily or musically achieved on a typical midi sequencer or DAW.

[@andreasdamberg359]

I really love my eloquenser but its 1 thing that get me frustrated and I hope someone have the answer for this, I want to program a dynamic baseline with tones that have different lengths almost like how you had play the bass guitar, I set the Elo gates to under option to have the longest posseble gates then i move on to the gate length options and when i set for example 1 trigger as short as it can be and the 2and as long as it can be I feel that is very very little differens between the 2 tones that comes out. In ableton and on my electron the differens in length can be really huge and gives alot of dynamics but on the Elo im not able to pull that of. What am I doing wrong? If that can be solved I have the best unit I can get with this. pls help.

[@SonicVoltage]

Hi, sorry away from my synths/elo right now but one thing worth checking (which probably you have already checked) is your synth voice's amplitued envelope. If you have the release time set too long which makes your voice sound for x-amount of time after the end of the gate (for that envelope) even with short gates or triggers it will always sound for too long. Try with a synth voice (bass sound) with the envelope set to stay open (emit sound) only for as long as a gate-signal is present at the gate input of your envelope for that voice. So you need a very short (or ZERO) release time. Try Fast attack, short decay to get to the sustain level you want and 'no' release-time to start with. I hope this helps. If you have an oscilloscope you can also see the shape and duration of the gates coming out of the ELO to make sure they are doing what you need them to do. Will take a look when I get back but am I have used an oscillscope on the gates, maybe, in one of my ELO videos I think, can't remember :)

[@kanakisalexis]

First of all great video, thanks for that! i got a few questions that you could maybe answer. -Is it possible for the Eloquencer to record something unquantized ? (Time wise) -Also i find a bit annoying the fact that all tracks have to reset to a specific track, how could this work for polyrhythms? example -> trk1/ 4 steps long, trk2 /7steps long. -Can a track be longer than 16 steps?

[@SonicVoltage]

Thank you, glad you liked the video. - I don't think so. All play, even CV Key Recording (Live Rec) is quantized to steps. You can try adding some Shuffle (to the whole song) and maybe make use of some Ratchet type to help moving off a precise step, but that's not necessarily what you are after - Although you do have a Master Track, you can easily set any of the 8 tracks to not follow the Master Track Reset. This allows you to have any track NOT resetting at the same time, so any of those tracks can be true to that specific Step Length you chose for that track.

[@carmeloponente5030]

Nice review. I wanted to get more info about the External Clock. The eloquencer can follow a clock from Ableton or the Octatrack ? If so do I have to get something in between such as the Yarns ? For example Ableton to Yarns and Yarns to the Eloquencer ? :)

[@SonicVoltage]

Hi, I do not sequence my modular from a DAW so I didn't try that but I think what you are trying to do should work.

[@afturmathmusic]

Hi Carmelo. I recently started clocking my Eloquencer with Ableton using a free plugin called CV Toolkit Mini. I did not have success with its "clock generator" function, so I used a synced, square wave LFO. This routes as audio to a DC-coupled audio output (UA Apollo 8P). The "clock" (LFO) comes out around 3V on my patch panel and works very consistently to clock the Eloquencer, following gradual Ableton tempo changes fairly quickly. It took me a little trial and error to figure out an LFO division and clock input multiplier that worked for me, but I'm also clocking 4 different external sequencers with the same LFO. Start the Eloquencer first, then start Ableton to sync start/stop. When you stop the Ableton clock, it will "pause" the Eloquencer at that step, so make sure you keep a hand on your audio/sequencer mutes when stopping. I played a live gig last weekend using this setup for the first time, and it worked flawlessly.

[@el2086]

thanks you very much

[@dinraum]

very interesting video! how do you think does it compare to the er-101 or the five12 vector sequencer module?

[@Artinmotionmusic]

hi there, your videos are great very helpful. is it already possible to transpose using the cv 1 or 2 ? Also if i want one track to play 32 steps and the others keep on 16, is it possible ? normally i need to duplicate all tracks even when i just want one of them.

[@radpix]

for my reminding 0:58:50 about cv in

[@radpix]

thank you very much just sometimes this repeating, somehow distorted 'melodic`sound is getting - ooh soo on my nerves. Sorry

[@SonicVoltage]

Thank you :).... roger that :)

[@noisehead]

I have a question about the eloquencer. Can you create swing or off beat gates for hihat and percs while keeping the other outs quantized? I am looking to use it as a drum sequencer :)

[@AdamPritchard]

I believe so. It's named "Shuffle". Second from the left in the lower buttons.

[@ariksalomon8400]

Sound very Spanish. Do I hate it?.... don't get stressed I love it...

[@SonicVoltage]

😀

[@ElectronicazMusic]

Awesome!

[@SonicVoltage]

Thank you!

[@PISrex]

muy bueno . gracias

[@modularwithaview]

Do you like this or NerdSeq better?

[@SonicVoltage]

Hi, in terms of multitrack sequencers, the Eloquencer, NerdSEQ and ER101/102 have been my favourite sequencers for a long time. I do have single track analogue sequencers with knobs or sliders, but that's a different use case. The reason why I still have all 3 of them is that each one is probably the best in 3 different situations. I will eventually discuss all three of them in one video after I publish some updated-video on the Eloquecner and NerdSEQ. Hard to give a quick answer but I'll try to help. If I want to get a beat down real quick, build a pattern-based sequence quickly, 'tap' in a quick melodic line, then have fun with some probability, quick live tests of muting, LFOs etc... the Eloquencer allows me to do that very quickly indeed, without the need of external pad-controllers because of the built-in 16 Tap-Buttons... there is immediacy. And that can get a track started quickly. If I want to get deeper into per-step programming, trigger delays, per step glide, maybe add some audio samples... overall program more minute aspects of a track, the NerdSEQ has more programming and add-on features (samples, 4OP synth voice) than any other CV/Gate Multitrack sequencer. NOTE: This is NOT to say the NerdSEQ is slow (and NOT to say the Eloquencer does not have enough features)... the arrow keys and other keys (on the NerdSEQ) are really fast to use. Tracker Sequencers, when familiar with them, can be really fast. But the 16 tap-pads on the Eloquencer are of course more immediate as you have 16 steps in your sequence under your fingertips (no need to scroll through one step at the time). Of course, I am not considering external hardware like midi controllers, Launchpad Pro... I am only thinking about the core devices right now... if you add midi-controllers than things get even harder to compare (but you need to be aware of it). Or Trigger Expander on NerdSEQ which gives you a drum pattern screen. So one is maybe faster to get started with, the other allows you to go deeper and have more control, flexibility in detail, and adds samples, synth-voice built-in. I didn't want to answer via a comment like this because there is much more to say about each sequencer (Track Count, Outpus Per Track, Expansion Modules, MIDI capabilities differences, screen-types... and more) and that's why I'll make a comparison video (it will be after Christmas not now), so I can better expose comparison-details. A quick answer like this is, in this case, a VERY INCOMPLETE and POTENTIALLY MISLEADING... but I don't want you to think I didn't want to answer, my videos are to share my thoughts and to review (not paid demos so far) so I can freely say what I think. But I will go over a more helpful comparison in a dedicated video. These are fully-featured beasts with add-on expansion modules, a quick answer is not fair to the devices and honestly, not fair to you even.

[@modularwithaview]

@@SonicVoltage thanks much. I am getting a nerdseq for now. Thanks for your in depth answer, as well your thoroughly done videos.

[@SonicVoltage]

@@modularwithaview You are welcome, thank you for watching. Good luck 👍

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

@@SonicVoltage I bought an Eloquencer this week to sequence my smaller basic sequencers as it was less expensive than Vector and almost as powerful. Looking forward to it!

[@NicoResonic]

Thank you Very much!!!!!

[@SonicVoltage]

Thank you for stopping by. There will be more videos in the near future :)

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

How does it compare to the Cirklon sequencer?

[@SonicVoltage]

Hi, sorry I do not own a Cirklon, maybe some other user can help.

[@reason2910]

What's the module on the left. Pitch/cv touch plate?

[@SonicVoltage]

LS1 lightstrip from SoundMachines. Yes Control Voltage Generator and can also record a few seconds of finger movement.

[@moondog297]

Any MIDI function?

[@SonicVoltage]

not yet, but there was a mention of a MIDI Expansion on a Winter Modular newsletter (someone mentioned on a forum post a few weeks ago). Not sure if there was a mention of a possible release date though

[@greencontact]

All this and then they didnt put bicolor leds so 3 colors would make it lot more clear. green ones show the hits red is moving and yellow for what ever. otherwise im drooling.

[@aikighost]

A few questions. 1. is it possible to set a track to euclidean mode 2. Can it do CV arps per track? 3. Can it have multiple tracks set to a "chord" mode that work together?

[@jonathanbarnbrook]

been working with the eloquencer a lot and i am pretty sure the answer to all these question is 'no’. 1. you can randomize gates or put them in yourself, there are no specific gate generation modes 2. there is no arp facility - you would need another module processing the cv after. 3. there is no mode that will give you chords, you would just have to set the correct intervals from three cv outputs. despite these negative answers it is still a really great module and the heart of of a system.

[@moondog297]

Where are the sounds coming from?

[@SonicVoltage]

Hi, mmm that was long time ago :) But let's see, Kick may have been Peaks and at times Mutant Bassdrum. Snare should have been the Mutant Snare I think. Hats was the Analog Solutions HH88 going into the Doepfer A-136 DIS for shaping/distortion. The rattling sound would have been the FutureRetro Transient. The Bass sound is from the Birdkids Bateleur VCO Leads would have been the Pittsburgh Modular Double Helix Oscillator and the Studio ElectronicsTonestar 2600 Addtional sort of short sounds I think they are coming from Erica Synth Pico VCO and Pico Voice Of course, all the sounds are then processed/modulated via other modules (Doepfer Filters SEM and Wasp, Xaoc Belograd for example, some wave folding, LFOs from Batumi). You can actually 'see the configuration or modules I used' in this other video which was a test track I did when I was getting familiar with the Eloquencer, the track is called hEroLOI (explained in the description under the track video): kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX65pHWZibxsoLc This was the same eurorack case setup I used while making this video review, therefore all sounds are from the modules you can see in the hEroLOi track-video - I hope this helps

[@joaommeirelles]

is triplets possible?

[@SonicVoltage]

Hi, sorry for the late reply I missed this comment, my bad. There is no Time-Signature option for Pattern or Tracks. There is no specific option to group steps into triplets. There is Ratchet which can have a triplet based division but it's the same CV/Note ratcheted. You can apply a different Time Division (of current clock) per each track. You do this in Step Mode where you can set a track to play Forward, Backwards, Pendulum, Random etc... and DIV/2 DIV/3 etc... but DIV/3 would only give you a slowed-down divided-by-3 clock for that track.

[@joaommeirelles]

ok, thanks!

[@snörre23]

No slides is really a shame.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Why does this guy sound like Marvin the Martian on helium?

[@tarifanocturnajazz7564]

It seems a lot of funcions for doing nothing about music

[@justinurra2718]

Jesus this song ruined this informative video, I can't get through parts of this man