Eloquent Soft Deletes: Things You May Not Know

[@ricko13]

You just cover EVERYTHING about soft deletes in just 10 minutes 👏 thumbs up!

[@o_lobato]

what strategies could be used to restore an old post if there is a newer with same title?

[@ricko13]

@@o_lobato you can also use the soft deletes as an "archive" so you can recover them later, watch the video again

[@mohamedsiddig1925]

my current project i work on require softDelete functionality, And boom you shot a video on same topic. man did you read mind?! Thanks alot. You save my day.

[@nirajgautam403]

I already knew all this things.. but still enjoyed watching it.

[@Somcoders]

Thanks Povilas. skipping unique validations may couse an error when restoring.

[@yungifez]

Its crazy how simple laravel makes soft deletes

[@mohammad_alhalla30]

thanks for your time , جزاك الله خيرا

[@dex.cabigting]

In line with the unique rule, I suggest "renaming" the unique column before soft deleting it, like adding a suffix "-trashed". Then it's up to you if you will change it to "-restored" after restoring it (i think it's possible). eg: Title: "abc" -> "abc-trashed" (softdeleted) -> "abc-restored" (after restore)

[@mhmdomer]

Thanks Povilas, very informative as usual We can enable route model binding for soft deleted models as well, the syntax is: Route::get('/posts/{post}', [PostController::class, 'show'])->withTrashed();

[@sasocvetanoski9760]

Thank you for sharing your experience 🍻

[@yordanmilchev]

Best person I know on this planet

[@vakylenkox]

Short format for rule: 'title' => 'unique:posts,deleted_at,NULL',

[@rs-nm7hp]

Yeah .. i always implement this method not Rule object

[@JayEdgarT]

Wow, what a useful video--thank you! I don't now how the 'archive' got on the request @ 1m50s. I'll have to research that. I appreciate your making this.

[@ossamakhayat5390]

Clear and informative as usual. Thanks!

[@rossco5551]

Great wrap up. Over-riding the Laravel default regarding validation would make the restoration step a lot more complex - I wonder how you would tackle checking whether a restoration is permissible (that it won't restore a model that breaks the unique constraint for example).

[@abdulrehmandar8541]

This package is useful when we have multiple relations to delete. For me I think $user->posts()->delete() will be fine. I have a question should we use soft delete on pivot table if parents table uses soft delete?

[@LaravelDaily]

It's personal preference

[@michaelcrash]

my advise on cascade softdelete is to use build-in model events. "deleting" in your model method booted() to handle softdelete of child/parent models.

[@bariqdharmawan4680]

you mean using something like UserObserver and when user is deleted, perform a soft delete too to post right?

[@TahirBhai]

Thanks for sharing it, I have learned new package today.

[@masedinet]

Nice tutorial using softdelete sir,

[@charitysimon-peraboh5555]

Thanks so much

[@madrise007]

when should use Soft Deletes laravel? I read that some people said that soft deletes is bad practice.

[@KevinYobeth]

What about restoring soft deleted child? Is there a way to restore the child after restoring the parent itself?

[@LaravelDaily]

Googled this: stackoverflow.com/questions/61245181/restore-soft-delete-child-in-laravel

[@tastytim]

thank you

[@robertomejia3124]

Thank you for sharing your experience & tips with us, also for a clear pronunciation for non-english-native-speakers (kind of hard to understand more of the time to me). btw, do you recommend this method with the following scenario >> let's say besides setting value to "deleted_at" field, I set one or more fields in the same table, for example : deleted_by, status... so, the question is, should excecute $post->delete(); and then $post->update( 'field' => 'value' ); or should I better create a method where I update all fields together ? something like this: $post->update([ 'status' => 'deleted', 'deleted_by' => $request->id_user, 'deleted_at' => Carbon::now() ]); also, what if I need to update other tables (cascade) but with the same idea (who deleted, status, deleted at)....should I better use transactions for this ? thanks a lot

[@CodePopular]

Thanks.

[@alnahian2003]

3:05 Thanks a zillion for this! I tried to normally use forceDelete() and restore() method for those action according to the official docs. But it seemed it doesn't work. I tried a couple time but still had no idea why the heck the model aren't getting restored or deleted. Phew, well, so I have to find the trashed/softdeleted post at first like this: `` Post::onlyTrashed()->findOrFail($id); `` then attempt to delete it. Great!

[@RaajKhan]

Thanks

[@alex_nita]

Great tip/tutorial. Thank you! P.S. what is the DB app used by you (in the video)

[@LaravelDaily]

Table plus or sequel pro, I don't remember which

[@alex_nita]

@@LaravelDaily thank you

[@erlonpaimsodre6506]

How could we specify the total of withTrashed() can be recovered? For example, I would like to show only five items that were retrieve withTrashed, but all the data that is not deleted, should retrieve all of them.

[@christian-ngabe]

Let me say thanks so much

[@camilooyarzo9987]

hi i need to install jetstrap with bootstrap 4 but now by default it uses bt 5 how can i change it?

[@PovilasKorop]

Read the documentation of Jetstrap.

[@ekponoambrose1909]

Thank you

[@ShroomMusicChannel]

I got one question, same as you show on the unique RULE part. Delete post "abc", and create another NEW post name "abc". What will happen if we restore the OLD "abc"?

[@LaravelDaily]

Both will be active, then, you need to have a separate code to avoid it.

[@MirzaBilal1992]

Can we restore all of the deleted posts on restoring the Author as well?

[@jessedeboer2301]

What happens when you restore the user? are the posts automatically restored to?

[@localLyricsPh]

how did you setup the editor to have keywords like "uri", "relations", "key", and "var_name" etc.

[@LaravelDaily]

Phpstorm by default

[@frtrash766]

Hi there, teacher. Nice video! i'm having a trouble, when i'm hitting the "restore" button or the "delete forever" button, it sends me right to the url, not to the function on my controller. I don't know what i did or what is happening, so, i need help there.

[@mangoknights]

Hi. By chance you offer talent/project staffing?

[@LaravelDaily]

Nope, sorry

[@gekost79]

..... and what happens if i * create a record with title "abc and softdelete it * create a new one with the same title and softdelete it * create a new one with the same title and then softdelete it ... and then i want to go and restore all three softdeleted records .... which have the same title ... which is forbidden ofcourse ... (i know i can test it, but i just wanted to make the question since you didn't clarify that) thank you and that was a great video !!

[@LaravelDaily]

Well it's forbidden for a reason - so you can restore only one of the records, other ones would throw error.

[@Formula7Driver]

CascadeSoftDeletes isn't an ideal solution, because it updates relationship objects one by one. I would rather use something that uses just the foreign key for building SQL query

[@Kanexxable]

People who try to use eloquent often say that it's a slow performance orm can you show people how to do performant queries and read writes.

[@LaravelDaily]

Yes I'm planning a new course about Eloquent performance, will be published by the end of October, on laraveldaily.teachable.com

[@Kanexxable]

@@LaravelDaily Good I would like to see previews

[@rjchhetri2370]

Sir to use any css framework like css, why do we need to configure laravel mix and then compile the assets. Why dont we just copy the CDN link and paste on the html template

[@LaravelDaily]

You can use CDN, if the theme provides the CDN links

[@vinsmokesanji9485]

Thank you for your video Last time i used observables to handle soft delete relationships I want to know if there is a solution (package) can handle and archive images ?

[@LaravelDaily]

You can do that with observers, too. Not sure about any package for specific images, maybe you can modify this one for your needs: github.com/spatie/laravel-directory-cleanup

[@vinsmokesanji9485]

@@LaravelDaily thank you for your time boss Warm regards

[@arifulsikder777]

I have a Parent, which is District , And District has child Division, ans aslo District has child Thana. That's mean Division ->District >Thana.. When i soft delete Division, the Thana is not deleting. Help me

[@LaravelDaily]

Here's my article about it: blog.quickadminpanel.com/one-to-many-with-soft-deletes-deleting-parent-restrict-or-cascade/ - read section "Behavior 3"

[@JovenAlbarida]

many thanks for sharing this video, i just have question what if theres already existing database from client, and dev alter some columns inside migration script, does that break the records inside existing database? what is we think best practice on that kind of scenario?

[@BsiennKhan]

Why do you think it would break anything? Databases gets updated all the time. And what you are asking is, what if I delete timestamps while the code uses Eloquent, well, give it a try and you will find out.

[@LaravelDaily]

I'm planning to shoot a video on that exact scenario, next week.

[@frank_core3193]

is there a way where we can fetch all the soft deleted record... when i say all i mean all tables like post,users,conments...

[@LaravelDaily]

The model structure is different for each model so how can you group them together? Query each model separately.

[@frank_core3193]

@@LaravelDaily Owkay... makes a lot of sense

[@bestwishes3040]

Sir Thank you very much for this tutorial and this is what I wanted. Sir please please make a video on the theme that you are using in PHP Storm. Your choice of theme is very good and I am unable to find the exact match with yours. Sir, please help me if possible to know me the theme name that you are using.

[@LaravelDaily]

Material darker

[@bestwishes3040]

@@LaravelDaily Thank you Sir

[@kingstalker]

what if you want to restore it with the same title but now the title already got created by a new record

[@LaravelDaily]

Then you're screwed? :)

[@julienSibille]

Because i faced troubles with softdelete and observers, I use to do it like that public function deleting(Model $model) { if($model->isForceDeleting()) { event(new ModelDeleted($model)); } else { event(new ModelSoftDeleted($model)); } } Maybe a bad habit ?

[@LaravelDaily]

I would probably try to debug what troubles you had exactly and fix the actual issue, instead of this workaround. But it works!

[@SanjaHD]

Does the package offer also cascade restore?

[@LaravelDaily]

No

[@marcinrobertkazmierczak]

What with pivot table and soft deletes. How this things gonna work with soft deletes?

[@LaravelDaily]

I wouldn't personally use soft deletes in a pivot table. But yes, you can do it if you create a Model for the pivot table.

[@marcinrobertkazmierczak]

@@LaravelDaily thank you for quick response

[@marcinrobertkazmierczak]

@@LaravelDaily what if I need to save data form pivot as softdeleted? Only manual manipulation with deleted_at field in pivot table?

[@LaravelDaily]

Yes, from what I remember

[@marcinrobertkazmierczak]

@@LaravelDaily I found package for this on git hub and I'm testing this solution right now.

[@baldomwamba]

How to soft delete the pivot table ?

[@LaravelDaily]

You can't in Laravel, unfortunately, at least not directly. You need to build that functionality manually if you really want it.

[@Stoney_Eagle]

What's up with all the false positive errors lately in the IDE's for laravel?

[@LaravelDaily]

M?

[@Stoney_Eagle]

@@LaravelDaily Haven't you noticed that PHPstorm gives you error feedback while the code is actually valid? VSCode does the same. It's really confusing sometimes when the editor tells you you're wrong but you're not.

[@LaravelDaily]

Oh I often ignore those, sometimes it's just some mis-caching when working with gazilion demo projects in my case. In other cases, I'm too lazy to install/configure something like IDE helper for a 5-minute demo.

[@Stoney_Eagle]

@@LaravelDaily Even the core laravel functions like eloquent methods error, this has nothing to do with configuration. I'm not saying you need to do or change anything, I'm just pointing my frustrations with the error handling that is falling far behind the rapid changes in laravel. This started after laravel 7 was released. All the old packages won't give you any errors but all the new stuff does.

[@LaravelDaily]

So your suggestion is... to not release any new features in Laravel?

[@er.anilkumarthakur1493]

how can i do crud for api using try-catch block in controller for the resource route using route model binding Route::resource('articles', ArticleController::class, ['except' => ['create']]); here is my controller can you help me using try catch block in controller class ArticleController extends Controller { public function index() { return Article::all(); } public function show(Article $article) { return $article; } public function store(Request $request) { $article = Article::create($request->all()); return response()->json($article, 201); } public function update(Request $request, Article $article) { $article->update($request->all()); return response()->json($article, 200); } public function delete(Article $article) { $article->delete(); return response()->json(null, 204); } }

[@LaravelDaily]

Try to search "try catch" on my channel and you will find a lot of video examples

[@GergelyCsermely]

Thanks