What is With Giga Roller Coasters and Their Big Brake Runs?

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ElToroRyan

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@ghostdini_makes_coasters
@ghostdini_makes_coasters 4 жыл бұрын
I'm at the beginning watching a Hamilton ad and I can already tell he's going to do a long college lecture about block brakes
@ashermccready
@ashermccready 4 жыл бұрын
Same, honestly whenever I see a Hamilton ad, I don't skip it, I love that musical
@anthonystevens2738
@anthonystevens2738 4 жыл бұрын
I had the same ad XD
@pantherbulb8
@pantherbulb8 4 жыл бұрын
Got it too
@lizaelliott6862
@lizaelliott6862 4 жыл бұрын
Me too :D
@ilikerollercoasters4757
@ilikerollercoasters4757 4 жыл бұрын
Asher McCready ugh I hate Hamilton with a passion
@SEEKINGTHETHRILL
@SEEKINGTHETHRILL 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan almost went for some different kind of POV’s here 3:56
@prakesh2904
@prakesh2904 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment. Needs more than 2 likes this is genius xD
@JohnnBVB
@JohnnBVB 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping someone else noticed that! lol
@PlaneguyAN225
@PlaneguyAN225 4 жыл бұрын
Rip
@PlaneguyAN225
@PlaneguyAN225 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Adelstein ;)
@lukestadelmann8816
@lukestadelmann8816 4 жыл бұрын
👑
@5MadMovieMakers
@5MadMovieMakers 4 жыл бұрын
Orion is a great and fun ride, the brake run doesn't feel like 87 feet off the ground but more like the conclusion to a great layout
@JayFlowie
@JayFlowie 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a nice smooth friendly ride. It didn't really thrill me which is what I want from a giga. But I do think you're right that the brake run didn't feel too bad at all.
@relaxed_str8891
@relaxed_str8891 3 жыл бұрын
Just rode it 3 times yesterday. Very smooth, and best coaster I’ve been on.
@scottyjbd
@scottyjbd 3 жыл бұрын
@@JayFlowie a 300ft drop isn’t thrilling? 🤓
@JayFlowie
@JayFlowie 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottyjbd not really anymore. I've done it so many times now that if it isn't forcefully pushing me, it doesn't feel intense. Snappy transitions make for an exciting coaster for me now. Rmc, and blitz coasters mostly or a really huge g pull
@scottyjbd
@scottyjbd 3 жыл бұрын
@@JayFlowie that’s alright if air time isn’t your thang. To each their own!
@glaxiccp7841
@glaxiccp7841 4 жыл бұрын
3:56 had me dead
@keditsyoutube
@keditsyoutube 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@auzk2js71
@auzk2js71 2 жыл бұрын
what even is x videos lol its not showing up when i google it
@BG_MONKY
@BG_MONKY 2 жыл бұрын
@@auzk2js71 💀
@thecour8379
@thecour8379 Жыл бұрын
@@auzk2js71 Your innocence must not be tarnished.........
@auzk2js71
@auzk2js71 Жыл бұрын
@Victoria G *then
@dustpan5236
@dustpan5236 4 жыл бұрын
A giga wild mouse scares me. Being whipped side to side 300ft in the air is honestly bananas not to mention how much more expensive it would be having so much support at that height
@Starwarman1
@Starwarman1 Жыл бұрын
Would honestly be a blast, the view of Lake Erie at cedar point would make it A tier
@coasterbot
@coasterbot 4 жыл бұрын
Came to learn about brake runs, stayed to see the Coaster Bot font be used
@robotboy-my5ty
@robotboy-my5ty 4 жыл бұрын
ElToroRyan: Explained
@DanOutdoorsUK
@DanOutdoorsUK 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a coaster bit video from the thumbnail
@ElToroRyan
@ElToroRyan 4 жыл бұрын
oh wow that is Coaster Bot font 😂 didn't even realize hahah
@BARUtubbig
@BARUtubbig 4 жыл бұрын
You made your own font? That's pretty cool, who made it?
@ray-uz1dd
@ray-uz1dd 4 жыл бұрын
robotboy1010 HAHA YESS
@RollTerps
@RollTerps 4 жыл бұрын
The brake runs are insecure about their size, stop talking about it.
@utilitariancritic
@utilitariancritic 4 жыл бұрын
Why are they insecure if they’re giant?🤤🤤🤤
@CoolioJoe100
@CoolioJoe100 4 жыл бұрын
@@utilitariancritic Just like tall people can be insecure because they stand out so much
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan 4 жыл бұрын
Brake runs be getting bullied left and right here
@mrquavers
@mrquavers 4 жыл бұрын
CoolioJoe100 ayyyyyy I don’t know if that was intentional or not
@benfox2883
@benfox2883 4 жыл бұрын
Stop the bullying of the brake runs!!
@andywong4779
@andywong4779 4 жыл бұрын
Another important reason to have the brake runs so high is to give the final brake a steep angle so empty trains will be able to clear it quickly. One of the biggest delays on the Intamins like RoS and TTD is waiting for magnetic brakes / copper fins to retract and then tire driving drains through the now open brake runs. With a steeply sloped final brake run, they can just open the friction brake at the end and "voila" the train, even empty, rolls at a decent clip into the next block.
@ElToroRyan
@ElToroRyan 4 жыл бұрын
Andy Wong very true!
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
@ZeldaTheSwordsman 2 жыл бұрын
Even Intamin realized this, as shown with Kingda Ka.
@LTstinkysocksMcGee420
@LTstinkysocksMcGee420 Жыл бұрын
@@ElToroRyanI’m in line for behemoth rn lol
@marcussheen
@marcussheen 4 жыл бұрын
I love B&M for little details like this. I knew about the 'moving the mid course to the end' thing, but never even thought about the elevation reducing wear and tear. Thanks for your videos, I absolutely love these deep dives into the technical details.
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the "issue" with Orion being less than 300 feet tall is simply because its tallest point is on an elevated section of terrain. If the ride had been built on flat ground it probably would have been over 300 feet tall.
@JJJJ-he8bz
@JJJJ-he8bz 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly all of the other gigas are built on mostly flat land they probably would have increased the cost to much.
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan 3 жыл бұрын
Kings Island doesn't need their giga coaster to be extremely massive to draw in crowds. If they just know if the drop or height is at lest 300 feet, you've already won people over. In fact, no one is going to even care that the height is 287 feet tall, and has the drop at 300 feet. People who use the metric system ain't going to care about the imperial measurement system, because they don't know how to use it. Plus, Orion looks just as tall as any giga coaster out there.
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 3 жыл бұрын
@@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan I mean, it's basically gigacoaster sized. It just kinda got screwed because the station and lift are on a hill.
@ah7027
@ah7027 3 жыл бұрын
@@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan id say considering the coaster is in The united states the vast majority of riders are going to not use metric. Sure youll get a few people from out of the country but not a ton. The park is in the middle of nowhere so aside from the park there isnt much reason to be near there. Columbus and cincy are both over an hour away and they would be the closest tourist locations that would draw in the international crowd.
@GamerBen87
@GamerBen87 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, all they have to do is dig a 13 foot deep hole right under the crest of the lift hill and they'd have a real giga coaster
@francescoprotasi2909
@francescoprotasi2909 4 жыл бұрын
How Ryan met Nadine. Ryan: hey girl. You’ve ever heard of block zones?
@shane9245
@shane9245 3 жыл бұрын
“for those unfamiliar”
@G_Force-cx2mr
@G_Force-cx2mr 3 жыл бұрын
@@shane9245 A block zone is a section of a ride
@zack9777
@zack9777 Жыл бұрын
@@G_Force-cx2mr where only one train may occupy
@trinitysillykitty
@trinitysillykitty 2 ай бұрын
At the end of a block zone is a mechanism that stops the train if the block zone ahead is still occupied
@Jimmytheexplorer
@Jimmytheexplorer 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan: If you don't know what a block section is Me who has seen all of the problematic coasters videos: you have mentioned it once or twice
@robertfitzpatrick4302
@robertfitzpatrick4302 4 жыл бұрын
I had to stop, let it breathe, and come back today. I am an expert on Blocks at this point.
@LukeBot2000
@LukeBot2000 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan: If you dont know what a block zone is.... Me: Here we go again
@CMDRSweeper
@CMDRSweeper 3 жыл бұрын
A bit redundant, but thanks to his redundancy on it, when I popped in on the problematic roller coaster series mid run, I quickly grasped what he meant and could relate to railroad signals :D However, I still want more technical videos like this on different coasters, not just problem ones and I hope he can gather some info to share.
@hoosiercoasterfan2655
@hoosiercoasterfan2655 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s how I see it, if Apollo’s Chariot can be considered a hyper roller coaster at 170 feet, then Orion is a giga coaster.
@jricedrums
@jricedrums 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Apollo’s Chariot along with Phantom’s Revenge are the rides I bring up when I tell people Orion is a Giga!
@NorCalCoasterMedia
@NorCalCoasterMedia 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Goliath's drop at Over Georgia isn't 200 ft+ either
@natethegreat7881
@natethegreat7881 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU
@jessicah6712
@jessicah6712 4 жыл бұрын
NorCal Thrills exactly but it still classifies as a hyper because ya height is 200ft but the drop is 170 feet
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan 4 жыл бұрын
Yes thank youuuuuuuu
@marcustulliuscicero5443
@marcustulliuscicero5443 4 жыл бұрын
Coaster Enthusiasts: Complain about MCBRs ruining the pacing of the ride. Also Coaster Enthusiasts: Complain about the MCBR being placed right before the final brakes.
@Jimmytheexplorer
@Jimmytheexplorer 4 жыл бұрын
Why don't they just turn them off but have them in the middle of the ride
@marcustulliuscicero5443
@marcustulliuscicero5443 4 жыл бұрын
Because that would reduce rider capacity. Block brakes must always be on so that they can bring the train to a complete half should the block ahead be not clear for some reason.
@snakeeyes2k4
@snakeeyes2k4 4 жыл бұрын
Also coaster enthusiasts: complain about capacity
@Eurstre
@Eurstre 4 жыл бұрын
Coaster enthusiasts: complains about basically anything.
@Jimmytheexplorer
@Jimmytheexplorer 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcustulliuscicero5443 just saying, steel vengeance's mid course was never on for me
@launches.loops.and.lapbars
@launches.loops.and.lapbars 2 жыл бұрын
This video has made The Swarm's slightly confusing break run make a lot more sense, thanks Ryan!
@speedylloyd
@speedylloyd 4 жыл бұрын
people will complain about everything, but back in 1991 Steel Phantom/Phantoms Revenge (Kennywood) has always been considered as a hyper coaster, with a drop over 220 feet yet only having a height of 160 feet. Both Kennywood and Kings Island are taking advantage of the land they have.
@spentron1
@spentron1 4 жыл бұрын
Not always. But it should be. The most important aspects are speed generated and the incentive to go just a bit further ($) to make the goal. A coaster with the height but substantially short on elevation difference such as Big Apple is the one that's cheating.
@ArrowThrills
@ArrowThrills 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Phantoms Revenge aka Steel Phantom was a Mega Coaster.
@bocahdongo7769
@bocahdongo7769 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArrowThrills You can count as that Just matter of venn diagram
@ArrowThrills
@ArrowThrills 3 жыл бұрын
@@bocahdongo7769 huh ?
@coasterodyssey
@coasterodyssey 4 жыл бұрын
B&M’s designs are brilliant. I love these nerd videos.
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan 3 жыл бұрын
B&M literally thinks of everything, and that's what sets them apart from other manufacturers. Idk a single B&M coaster that has had significant downtime and break down. I've had that happen with Behemoth and Yukon Striker, but they were up within 10-15 minutes, and no other problems. It's amazing what B&M think of technology-wise.
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 2 жыл бұрын
@@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan That's very true, but that reliability comes at the cost of intensity... Older B&Ms were like intamins, very forceful, whippy, intense, nowadays B&Ms can be kinda boring. I still like them, but they are getting too graceful... There is no better comparison than Raptor at Cedar Point and Banshee at Kings Island, Raptor is whippy, fun, intense, but pretty smooth, Banshee is too drawn out, not forceful enough, and has actually gotten pretty uncomfortable
@jgottula
@jgottula 2 жыл бұрын
@@coastaku1954 From what I gather, Intamin generally seems more willing to take bold risks with new ride designs; but then, as a consequence, they end up with more of the sort of coasters that end up on the Problematic series here. Whereas B&M is a bit lower risk, and perhaps more conservative on their designs; but they’re just so consistent and reliable and don’t have nearly the same rate of goof-ups that Intamin seemingly does. In any case, both companies have introduced some really great stuff. Intamin I think has a lot more claims to fame on record-breakers and unique/bespoke stuff; meanwhile B&M is kinda the ultimate standard-bearer of “here’s your whole entire catalog of really solid steel coaster variants”. All of that aside… The most important battle, and the only one that really matters: Beefy boxy spine track? Or super truss track? Which reigns supreme?! (I actually kinda like both in their own ways, to be honest. So I guess we need someone else, somebody less ambivalent than me, to decide-once and for all-which type of track is the clearly superior one. 🙇‍♂️)
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 2 жыл бұрын
@@jgottula You know... I actually prefer the Box Spine Track... Nothing, and I mean NOTHING beats the famous B&M Roar! Prolly the loudest B&M I've ever heard is Green Lantern at Great Adventure
@vargflagsc772
@vargflagsc772 4 жыл бұрын
Without the midcourse, I feel like the rides are better paced as well, as you don't have an interruption mid ride.
@ArrowThrills
@ArrowThrills 4 жыл бұрын
Diamondback at Kings island is a perfect example.
@timk987
@timk987 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArrowThrills Diamondback has a mcbr though!?!
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the ride - some coasters, like those with a mid-run launch element, can leverage the drastic change of pace of a mid-ride brake as a benefit to the overall experience. It just depends on how much care the manufacturer put into the design, and probably a bit of theming too.
@madtownchris
@madtownchris 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always. B&M understands throughput and reliability. Your comments about block checks and evacs are spot on. This design is a direct result of operational experience. There are fewer motors and prox switches since the brake run relies less on drive motors and more on gravity to return the trains to the station. Vekoma's newer installations do a good job of swiftly returning trains to the station once they pause on the break run but they rely on pinch tires. When I first saw Leviathan's layout I thought it looked short but it's a very good ride. I haven't been on the other 2 yet. The enthusiast in me wishes Orion had one or two more camelbacks before the brake run but the park operator in me gets it. My favorite coaster finale is the original SROS at SFDL when it opened in 1999 without the trim brake. Ending the ride with insane (and non ASTM-complaint) negative G's is a moment I'll never forget. I wish Orion ended like that, but the benefits of the brake run as you described are for the greater good. You're very good at this and I hope the industry benefits from your observations.
@bandmfanboy
@bandmfanboy 3 жыл бұрын
B&M is actually genius. They learn and change. Using altitude to naturally slow trains down to reduce wear and tear on the track.
@AirtimeThrills
@AirtimeThrills 4 жыл бұрын
Block zone ryan
@CentralFloridaCoasters
@CentralFloridaCoasters 6 ай бұрын
Damn, nobody noticing you. Guess I’m the first. Btw, did you see what he was about to look up at 3:56?
@alexlents4689
@alexlents4689 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like B&M gets too much s*** for their decisions. You have to acknowledge that they do a great job being relatively equally appealing to both parks and riders. Like with Fury, they managed to make a GTA-winning, 6000+ foot coaster have such a great capacity with no midcourse break run. That’s insane when you really stop and think about it!
@oofmodzz8101
@oofmodzz8101 4 жыл бұрын
That feeling when you mix up Rcdb with xvideos
@Syonide
@Syonide 4 жыл бұрын
classic mistake
@SirenHead00
@SirenHead00 3 жыл бұрын
wait a minute
@imCurveee
@imCurveee 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a former B&M Giga coaster brakerun complainer, but you've enlightened me with your video. I will happily take a shorter wait time than an extra airtime hill or helix any day of the week.
@coasterworld278
@coasterworld278 3 жыл бұрын
Another bonus on a long brake run at the end is that if there is a malfunction you still get to enjoy the whole ride!
@TJ85234
@TJ85234 2 жыл бұрын
That happened to us last week on orion
@randomtask87
@randomtask87 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, it’s also good for park operators-technically there’s no obligation/overhead to give guests front of the line passes if they’ve already experienced the complete ride!
@user-yn1bd4yf3h
@user-yn1bd4yf3h 4 жыл бұрын
Those break runs are bigger than my meal portions
@stickskinny1266
@stickskinny1266 4 жыл бұрын
My man really just made a 5 paragraph 3 point essay. School really taught you well I see.
@RandallFPS
@RandallFPS 4 жыл бұрын
Love the explanations because there's no excuse to dislike them anymore, that rider capacity is GODLY!
@DoubleshotOI
@DoubleshotOI 6 ай бұрын
This is why i like the mystic timbers approach with the end shed. Extra block section entertainment
@ilikerollercoasters4757
@ilikerollercoasters4757 4 жыл бұрын
B&M is literally the best from an operational standpoint. I’d recommend a GP To Enthusiast video called why B&M is the best or something like that. He goes into detail with what makes them better than most manufacturers
@samw4223
@samw4223 4 жыл бұрын
3:56 that's gonna get you demonetized
@dannabon3279
@dannabon3279 4 жыл бұрын
He's willing to take the risk for a few laughs.😂😂
@ArrowThrills
@ArrowThrills 4 жыл бұрын
Your kidding ?
@Taylord444
@Taylord444 4 жыл бұрын
excellent content
@samw4223
@samw4223 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArrowThrills no because mentioning those sites can get the video demonitized
@ElToroRyan
@ElToroRyan 4 жыл бұрын
🤫🤫🤫 idk what you’re talking about!
@stickskinny1266
@stickskinny1266 4 жыл бұрын
3:46 how much for you to engineer that
@Dakakeisalie
@Dakakeisalie 4 жыл бұрын
a 300ft wild mouse would slap
@jricedrums
@jricedrums 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, I never even thought of how the reason why they’re so high is so the train can enter slower!
@haroldthetallandmighty4544
@haroldthetallandmighty4544 4 жыл бұрын
B&M : So how long do you want the brake run to be? Cedar Fair: yes
@NorCalCoasterMedia
@NorCalCoasterMedia 4 жыл бұрын
Still better than the clones six flags does
@kylebetz9684
@kylebetz9684 4 жыл бұрын
NorCal Thrills facts
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan 3 жыл бұрын
Ride is still high-quality :)
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan 3 жыл бұрын
@@NorCalCoasterMedia Agreed.
@ArrowThrills
@ArrowThrills 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan thanks for explaining, because I've always wondered why Giga coasters have large break runs.
@shane9245
@shane9245 4 жыл бұрын
3:57 Ryan’s search history: 1955 mad tea party map of tri state area map of tri state area animal crossing custom design villager chernobyl explosion chernobyl explosion
@tntboom21
@tntboom21 4 жыл бұрын
you are the man for including the metric system! its like almost all roller coaster channels just dont care about the non usa viewers. so thanks!
@mikethewhizz5085
@mikethewhizz5085 4 жыл бұрын
B&M hyper and giga coasters to me have always had an underlying theme of being massive giants, and the tall huge brake runs just serve to fit them well
@Ratseason
@Ratseason 4 жыл бұрын
The block zone description in every video is like a drug to me. I NEED MORE!
@davidsobilo9622
@davidsobilo9622 4 жыл бұрын
Best coaster channel..you sure love them blockzones!
@TrypodKat
@TrypodKat 4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos, ElengineerORyan!
@pypeapple
@pypeapple 4 жыл бұрын
the best part about watching this channel grow is seeing more b-roll footage from Ryan's trips
@coasterdaddy7123
@coasterdaddy7123 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video! You have all of the knowledge necessary to address such matters in a technical way, and these things needed to be said.
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan 3 жыл бұрын
B&M literally thinks of everything. No one would think to put an extra brake zone between a train coming to a stop and a train waiting behind the station, except for B&M. Take a look at all their coasters that run three trains, and that's exactly the case. B&M is the best when it comes to thinking of everything to make a ride reliable. These brake runs are a clear example. I was confused too when I saw this huge brake run on Leviathan when I first rode it in its opening month in 2012, but now I can appreciate just how smart this company is with all their rides, and that's why B&M is my favourite coaster manufacturer. They're expensive for a reason.
@dav1345-
@dav1345- 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! You always put so much effort into these videos! Thank you mang!
@marcusbean6003
@marcusbean6003 Жыл бұрын
Every time Ryan gets into the definition of block zones, it's just got that "The FitnessGram Pacer test" vibe to it 😆 Love your videos dude
@marlinlachance8797
@marlinlachance8797 4 жыл бұрын
Gigacoasters have enormous amounts of kinetic energy and are designed for pacing, rather than being simply record breakers. They are destinations attractions. By having a break run be so high off the ground, gravity does all the work of turning that kinetic energy into gravitational potential energy. Slowing down the train before the break run has to engage. This saves wear and tear on break runs, while making it far simpler to safely, reliably stop a train at high hourly capacities. Imagine how much heat needs to be dissipated from break pads on a giga coaster during every break run cycle.
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE 4 жыл бұрын
Customers dont like perceived inconvenience even if its beneficial to the company. Less wear and tear? Customers just complain the cosster sucks.
@ewant7954
@ewant7954 3 жыл бұрын
These brake runs are very similar to those that GCI have used for years on their 3 train rides. However B&M have figured it out perfectly, as with the GCI brake runs, the train takes a while to leave it, therefore the dispatch interval has to be longer, since the train can’t leave the lift until the other train has cleared the brake run. with the B&M version of this, the brakes barely slow down the train, therefore it takes nowhere near as long to leave the block as the GCI ones do. This means that the dispatch intervals can be smaller, therefore throughput higher, if GCI used a system similar to this, their rides could have higher throughputs, which would be good since most of their rides can do no more than 980 riders per hour (the exclusion being wodan at EP)
@TheFoyer13
@TheFoyer13 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel has re-sparked my love for roller coasters. Considering I live between kings island and cedar point, I need to get back out there.
@thakraken6995
@thakraken6995 4 жыл бұрын
I rode Orion a couple weeks ago. One of the best coasters I've been on
@AngeloGiles
@AngeloGiles 4 жыл бұрын
A video on giga coasters and brake runs, what more could you ask for? You're almost at 30K subs Ryan, keep it up!
@phillinsogood
@phillinsogood 4 жыл бұрын
Can we just appreciate the color schemes of these rides 🥰
@Lolks
@Lolks 3 жыл бұрын
Are they practical? yes. Does leviathan's break run give Dragon Fyre Insecurities? Also yes.
@zacheryrankin7955
@zacheryrankin7955 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you added the Metric System to the vid!! Thank you, all the way from Australia!!
@blackstone1a
@blackstone1a 4 жыл бұрын
“Before we start, you need to understand what a block section is.” Me, a massive train nut: “I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you.”
@jordonfreeman166
@jordonfreeman166 3 жыл бұрын
Right there with you. In case anyone’s wondering, signaling systems on railroads are split into blocks that either be occupied or unoccupied, like on a roller coaster.
@natesw0rld
@natesw0rld 3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaand now straight to play planet coaster and rework my brake runs hahaha great video. Really enjoyed it. Love your content
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan 4 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for someone to do a video on how these brake runs work :) B&M is so smart when it comes to brake zones, and let's face it, EVERYTHING.
@tiedough7481
@tiedough7481 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll call this block...... Block - Eltororyan 2020
@Aerolandaircraft
@Aerolandaircraft 2 жыл бұрын
Call me a hypocrite, however I always feel there's something visually spectacular when watching a video of one train slowing down and the other climbing the lift hill on Fury 325
@mjones2330
@mjones2330 Жыл бұрын
very interesting , just ride this beast yesterday and don’t mind waiting for it , great ride love that first drop
@the__patrick4138
@the__patrick4138 4 жыл бұрын
Don Helbig, long time enthusiast and Digital Marketing Manager of Kings Island actually provided the reason why they made Orion 287 feet tall. First and foremost, Kings Island’s desire was to build a giga, and when they were designing the layout, they realized that if they wanted a 300 foot height, they would have to extend the length of the lift hill which would require the drop to be further back. Extending the length of the lift hill meant that it would have to extend over a valley, and they wouldn’t be able to take advantage of this natural drop-off. B&M and Cedar Fair realized that it was pointless building a a 300 foot lift hill and having the same drop only to completely ignore Kings Island’s natural terrain. They ultimately decided that they could get the same drop they were planning with a 287 feet high lift hill, and with this, they could actually use the natural terrain to their advantage. For all of those naysayers who say Orion is not a giga, the chain invented the term giga, it has the same 300 foot drop as other gigas, and it shares similar elements with other gigas. Bottom line, if the park calls their 31 million dollar investment with a 300 foot drop a giga, it is a giga. Sorry for the long explanation, but great video! I hope that people stop complaining about long brake runs now! LOL! B&M is just next level!
@ArrowThrills
@ArrowThrills 4 жыл бұрын
I guess it would cost more to make the lift hill taller.
@paulzaw26
@paulzaw26 Жыл бұрын
Suuu dude. Love these videos, Noone understands how much I love rollercoasters
@ScareFestTTV
@ScareFestTTV 4 жыл бұрын
Please do more Problematic Coasters series. Love them!
@malcolmowen1
@malcolmowen1 4 жыл бұрын
I love when you cover my home park Wonderland! Levi!!!
@triple7marc
@triple7marc 4 жыл бұрын
Intamin is the only company that uses the term “Giga.” B&M classifies Leviathan, Fury 325 and Orion as “Hyper coasters.” They also classify Hollywood Dream: The Ride as a Hyper coaster even though it isn’t over 200 feet tall.
@friskyent1
@friskyent1 3 жыл бұрын
You make awesome content! Appreciate you, your friends, your work, and the hours of information and entertainment. 😁😁🔥🔥👏👏
@Savvyspades
@Savvyspades 4 жыл бұрын
Orion is a giga. Period. Its like saying Lightning Rod's lift hill is only 50 ft above the ground at the top, but once it uses its terrain it has a drop height of 165 ft.
@toddjones1480
@toddjones1480 4 жыл бұрын
Saying that Orion isn’t a giga is like saying PotC at Disneyland is 0 feet tall and has no drops.
@mikethewhizz5085
@mikethewhizz5085 4 жыл бұрын
I think that the rule of thumb, should we care to make any, is that a coaster is a giga if it has a total height between 300-399.99 feet OR has a drop of at least 300 feet. Both give the same feeling of height. If we were to raise the entire track of Orion 13 feet up from its original position, so that the crest of the lift hill is 300 feet off the ground and the bottom of the drop was at ground level, the ride experience would be pretty much identical, other than seeing from higher up
@cyborgladiator6
@cyborgladiator6 4 жыл бұрын
Wow nice vid! I’ve wondered why the brake runs were long for a while and I finally got an answer. Also this vid was really well put together and fun to watch.
@ups-pn3ph
@ups-pn3ph 4 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. Been obsessed with brakes and block sections since RCT2 and Nolimits coaster. No lie.
@BrandonTisor
@BrandonTisor 4 жыл бұрын
I have some friends that used to be in maintenance at Six Flags Magic Mountain and they all prefered working on B&M coasters over pretty much anything else in the park. They design coasters to be easy to maintain, something that a lot of other manufacturers don't do as good of a job with.
@Netsuko
@Netsuko 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the in depth explanations of these things. I feel like I am learning something new every time I watch one of your videos!
@Aragnatim
@Aragnatim 4 жыл бұрын
Coaster Manufacturers: Tackle Engineering and Operational Challenges through various methods Enthusiasts: REEEEEEEE
@wario9688
@wario9688 3 жыл бұрын
I personally love B&M coasters. They're always so smooth and enjoyable to ride. They might not always be necessarily the most thrilling, but they never disappoint.
@nokrepkie
@nokrepkie 4 жыл бұрын
It isn’t an eltororyan video until a block zone is mentioned
@stevenallen539
@stevenallen539 4 жыл бұрын
I love roller coasters and I’m so ready to go back to Cedar Point when it opens back!
@justthatguy9946
@justthatguy9946 4 жыл бұрын
I love the music you used for the "Flying Dinosaur " video. Nice to see those train jingles being put to good use!
@dadaguiar
@dadaguiar 3 жыл бұрын
so happy to see canadian coasters. i really like this page, which learning about coasters is cool i hate riding them, but the engineering is amazing
@d3r4zz
@d3r4zz 4 жыл бұрын
Even as an enthusiast these were some new information for me. Thanks!
@viniciusstellium8012
@viniciusstellium8012 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the super informative video as always!! Love your content
@frenchfrey65
@frenchfrey65 4 жыл бұрын
B&M brilliant once again got it I mean seriously, they advertise their rides can operate for 2 months without a single breakdown Only one, ONE, of their coasters is closed currently and it's in Kuwait of all countries. Sure some of their rides have been relocated/renamed (Iron Wolf now in Six Flags America), but they're still running! And aside from Iron Wolf, which coaster is notoriously rough? Usually just the Stand Up models which most are now floorless models, and as a result, SMOOTHER! B&M Just simply GETS IT with their rides! Intamin makes high quality rides too, but they're so expensive! 4 Pre-Fab woodies, that's it, too expensive, their Giga/Hyper coasters not as efficient as B&M's, their strata coasters, awesome as they are, have frequent tech issues due to weather or some other variable. Intamin inverts aren't even popular either! Their best models are Blitz/Accelator/Impulse models (as they're all launched), Family coasters, and Loopers, basically almost all smaller models. I would argue that the next best company right now in roller coasters is RMC, considering they can just re-track woodies into beasts and they build amazing ground up coasters too at an affordable price! Mack Rides right after.
@me-myself-i787
@me-myself-i787 Жыл бұрын
10 hours ago, all the B&Ms in Ohio were closed. Mainly because it was 3:00 in the morning in Ohio, but still.
@maxmustermann6248
@maxmustermann6248 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! More block zone talks!
@jamiebottomley9411
@jamiebottomley9411 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video , love your technical insight to these coasters . Keep them coming !
@TurboDub1991
@TurboDub1991 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you El Toro Ryan for your great content, it's very relaxing to listen to
@SLC2010Charleston
@SLC2010Charleston Жыл бұрын
Great Explanation. FURY 325 also controls pacing by the speed of the lift hill. If a train hasn't hit the break, the lift hill speed is slow. As soon as the previous train clears the break, the lift hill speeds up dramatically (then slows back to normal speed at the very top). It's so efficient, that if three trains are running, the operators in the station are hard pressed to keep up. Disappointing about the support break on Fury 325. They're started testing today and hope to be re-certified soon. Can't wait to get back on.
@SANITIZEDINC
@SANITIZEDINC 4 жыл бұрын
Informative and told with clear love of the art-form. Bravo, ElToroDawg!
@jacobwilliams9531
@jacobwilliams9531 4 жыл бұрын
Just rode Orion for the first time today. It was a little more fun than I was expecting!!! Very solid giga coaster!
@Filipolis
@Filipolis 4 жыл бұрын
The metric conversions are highly appreciated! Great video!
@Soandnb
@Soandnb 4 жыл бұрын
1:40 Wasn't Phantom (and Phantom's Revenge) max height AGL only 160ft? Yet I think people have no doubt that that ride is a Hyper Coaster by any measure, since it has a drop greater than 200ft in elevation change.
@Zyreath
@Zyreath 2 жыл бұрын
Pittsburgh ❤️ Phantom was better
@maxhagenauer24
@maxhagenauer24 4 жыл бұрын
It all makes sense now, everyone should watch this to understand so this high brake run giga meme goes away.
@jawharp1992
@jawharp1992 3 жыл бұрын
El Toro Ryan. The block section snob. I say that with love. Keep up the great work.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech 3 жыл бұрын
Most people consider the Phantom’s Revenge a “hypercoaster” even though it’s only 160 feet high, since it has a 232 foot drop. Going off that logic I don’t see why Orion wouldn’t be considered a “gigacoaster”.
@InGovWeMistrust
@InGovWeMistrust 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever I play planet coaster I build my coasters like this with one long multi block brake run at the very end right before the station. Helps prevent cascades or other mid ride stops even on virtual coasters.
@imgteam4701
@imgteam4701 4 жыл бұрын
always informative and entertaining, thanks ElToroRyan.
@nathansarley1712
@nathansarley1712 4 жыл бұрын
I swear nothing bothers me more than coaster enthusiasts complaining about Orion's height and length
@cushmanproductions
@cushmanproductions 4 жыл бұрын
I think Raging Bull at SFGAm makes a good compromise (I know, it's only a hyper, but still). It has a real mid-course brake run with more ride after it, but due to the layout of the track, it is incredibly close to the station. From the station, it is faster to get to the top of its mid-course brake than to get to the top of the lift hill. And with such an early brake run, you can reliably dispatch trains every 55-75 seconds, presuming you have the right crew and no issues with guests.
@zelderan
@zelderan 4 жыл бұрын
I always get excited when Ryan tells me what a block zone is
@SydeLeaderRay
@SydeLeaderRay 4 жыл бұрын
I love Coaster Brakes! Especially The Whizzer's, Incredicoaster, Montezooma's Revenge, Wooden Coaster Fin Brakes, and Skid Brakes like Judge Roy Scream. Magnet brakes are cool too.
@quinnreed5817
@quinnreed5817 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on about the Giga-coaster term. B&M uses the term hyper coaster to classify ALL roller coasters that are the airtime, non-inverting coaster style, regardless of height.
@kirkalbert7972
@kirkalbert7972 4 жыл бұрын
Great content as always Ryan, thanks!
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