EM Dehya "F2P Party" & "Whale Party" vs Childe & Spiral Abyss【Genshin Impact】

[@NerdMayvinPhile]

I hope to see more experimental teams with Dehya I absolutely love her and have been enjoying seeing her used

[@YorinSenpai]

Decent dmg when burgeon ~32k, if we look carefully we can see some ~18k overload too. Good work Oyajii.

[@kawaiimika7974]

She do be trying her best. AND GOOD FOR HER

[@observadoranonimo3782]

That team works perfectly without Dheya and improved with thoma

[@goodfriend4059]

To be honest it was all hyperbloom she wasnt doing much

[@Im_xFroZ]

It was all kuki hyperblooms, dehya did absolutely nothing in that comp

[@YorinSenpai]

"Surprisingly this build seems decent, not because of the burgeon itself (hyperbloom can do the same), but if we look carefully we can see some mixed overload reactions ~18k. Not amazing because we can do better with Xiangling or even Thoma, but still playable."

[@しるふぃー-z6f]

分かってはいたけどディシアすごい好きだからやっぱり悲しみが深い

[@ambivert_artist0170]

i did NOT expect the Alhaitham + Dehya team

[@exusiairhodes9439]

I called this National E team Al Haitham Nilou/Kokomi Kuki Dehya

[@user-tr9yv9co9r]

中断耐性はほんと結構優秀なんだよなぁ 特に序盤の2層前半のところとかよく分かる

[@Gsengun]

ほんとそうですよね！ ダメージは食らうけどシールドみたいな感じ笑

[@zerefartz4677]

ディシアが列開花できない間を忍で繋いでる感じなのかな？まさか忍入れるとは思わなかった…

[@はんぺん13号機]

この編成頭いいな。追撃頻度1.5秒の忍、2.5秒のディシアを組み合わせて何らかの開花反応をおこす頻度があがる。そして、忍のスキル使った後の事故4をディシアである程度カバーしている。

[@兎-i2h]

親爺さんが無微課金向けのパーティー使ってるの初めて見た気がする

[@位置-m7m]

もうディシアの爆発全く使わんの草

[@フル勃キン]

むしろ使わない方が正解かもしれない、そもそも火力低いし

[@HageNeet_Shafu]

色んな人が必死に頭抱えてどう使ったらディシアが強くなるか…って探してるのがいちばん辛い

[@notreallygonnatell]

The definition of smile and look pretty. That’s her team contribution lol

[@オオシロ-n6l]

色々試してくれる親爺好きだ！

[@好評発売中の非売品その]

まじでこういうの助かります！ディシア好きなのに運用方法がなかったんで助かります！これを目指します

[@old_man762]

パーティーに行秋を入れるのは悲しみが膨れ上がるからNG

[@むぎチョコ-e3p]

行秋との差を見ると悲しくなるってのはわかります笑 ただ、むしろ二人の効果でほぼダメージカットできて、ディシアだけだと9秒過ぎると足りなくなる中断耐性補ってくれて結構いいのではなんて思ったけどどうなんでしょ 回避とかちゃんとできる人は守るよりは夜蘭で攻めた方が強いとは思いますが

[@あーさん-e1i]

@@むぎチョコ-e3p 行秋との差というより、ディシアの爆発と行秋の爆発にシナジーが無い点について言ってるんだと思う。

[@user-vp8un2re3k]

@@むぎチョコ-e3p 最初の1文何も分かってなくて草

[@煤煙]

行秋だろうが夜蘭だろうが結局悲しくなるんだよなぁ

[@ミゲル-p4i]

熟知ディシアならどうせ爆発ないようなもんだしいいんじゃね？

[@Feathertail2205]

I also use a rainbow reaction team consisting of Nahida, Xinqiu, Kuki, and Dehya. Granted she doesn't contribute majority of the damage but it's still fun to use her punches on all reactions.

[@紀野-q2z]

6:51 ディシアのスキル置いてるのに怯んでしまうのが悲しすぎる。なんで完全中断耐性は9秒しかない上に18秒のクールタイムがあるんだ

[@SINNNEEEE]

2凸しろって事なんやろ。

[@紀野-q2z]

@@SINNNEEEE 完全中断耐性のクールタイムは固有天賦なので2凸しようが何しようが変わりません....9秒を過ぎるとその後はセノや綾人の中断耐性より低いんですよ...

[@rovinteyvat4706]

そうですね、かっこいいスキルなのに(￣▽￣;)

[@rinki2073]

@@紀野-q2z へっ！！！？？？？そうだったんだ スキルの中にいときゃずっと中断耐性あるんだとおもってた

[@スイカ-s9j]

やっぱり、ディシア自身でダメージを出しにくい現状だと熟知で攻めてくしかないのかな。モチーフ武器がどう見てもアタッカー用なのは今後の調整で適正になってくのか破天パターンなのか…

[@スーパーナチュラル-y3u]

忍行秋ナヒーダの超開花に耐久枠として入れるのが無凸ディシアが1番生きる気がする

[@兎-i2h]

そうすればよかったんだ、すごい！

[@兎-i2h]

ディシアの欠点とも言えそうなところを活かして長所にするのすごい

[@ムキムキお花ゾンビ]

未来の騎士さんちっす

[@popcatnet.4889]

スメールで追加された草元素の反応全て起こせるパーティw

[@yumekamiku3552]

親爺さんほんとすごい ディシアを色んな角度から沢山魅せてくれてありがとう…！！☆5が4人でも螺旋☆3とれない自分

[@real1323]

このゲームは星5入れれば強いってゲームじゃないからね 多分キャラ相性悪いだけだと思うよ

[@kotomine_handsoap]

とりあえず、ベネット香菱行秋となんか元素アタッカーで組んでみ？ 大抵なんとかなるよ

[@DNA--]

このゲームは無凸星5を4人でパーティを組むより完凸星4キャラを4人でクリアの方が簡単とまで言えます... それぐらい原神の星4(行秋、ベネット、香菱、北斗、フィッシュル、スクロース、忍...)は強いです

[@インドア派ちゃん]

もうちょっと原神勉強しようか

[@しと-b5d]

星5キャラ4体いて勝てないのは初心者過ぎる

[@tacticalmechtank5556]

The game has become Future Impact as of late, however, I don't think anything in the future can impact Dehya's usefullness with that kit. Anyway, the game is pretty easy and her mono pyro team can clear the current Abyss just fine so if you like her just go for it (like me).

[@JeffElErizoYT]

50/50

[@hulahupjingga]

We need a "standart" power for 5* character, how much it bring at "C0". The argument " the game pretty easy and her mono pyro team can clear abyss just fine" can also be translated "the game pretty easy you can clear abyss just fine with 3 or 2 character only and forget entirely her presence in team" Especially hyperbloom case, only need 3 char and it is one of the most f2p friendly team/low investment team.

[@hiroka1194]

if they add more enemy than have anti shield ability. a tank would be usefull. i believe there will be another tank character with better skill

[@gregoriussanovedo7966]

@@hulahupjingga or you can simply said "the game is easy for endgame player, you can play with whatever you want". if you really goes into who is better than who, that is a meta mindset. and everything always have better and best option, and dehya is not meta not even in the top branch, bcs there is already so many chars that can do what she did better than her. its all back to personal choice tbh, if you want to use other char that better than dehya, then use it. you do you but also let other people do what they want. for me? you can see meta chars is always in the top for abyss til now, and using it again and again and again is boring anyway, why not playing other chars

[@hiroka1194]

@@sa-jy4ve dehya artifact come in 3.6 plus fontaine is near. i also think dev would create new kind of gameplay. cause they need something fresh for keep the player not boring

[@DktorClzn]

The only way for Dehya to work? Take her on a team that doesn't need her, but she'll be there.

[@LiloLuigi]

Yeah very sad but that's one of the truth. At least with her kit, the team doesn't need her but get some goodness, like resistance to enemie's attack(= less stop for your combo from enemies) or dmg reduction, more efficient use of bloom seeds, etc. If any says why not have Zhongli instead, uh, no counter argument x-

[@triyanuari9473]

She's there for emotional support

[@rlifeh]

@@triyanuari9473 😂😂

[@corn738]

Lmao Fr, 32k blooms in that f2p team 😂😂 they don’t need her

[@CaptainRx-ss3rt]

This is what the video is about, the hyperbloom is doing all the work. You could swap Dehya with Qiqi it wouldn’t change the damage

[@Kara-sc3gh]

この編成の良いところは実質シールドで立ち回れるところだと思うんだよなぁ···

[@T___N]

2:51 いくら中断耐性が強くてもこうやってフィールドから押し出されるからね…

[@noinoi3]

超開花つよつよ

[@Onigumo.]

Love how dehya is weak yet people play with her and show many different builds

[@Alexxnderr10]

You realize the 4*s are the ones doing all the work in this team, right? Dehya could easily be replaced with Thoma and it'd work *better*, and he's a 4* as opposed to a 5*.

[@MrSocrates_]

​​@@Alexxnderr10 "easily replace" You don't know how troublesome to build Thoma is for Burgeon if you really think it's that easy And the Hyperbloom + Burgeon team only works because of how slow Dehya's skill applies pyro

[@Alexxnderr10]

@@MrSocrates_ And you're claiming a 5* with a busted kit is easier to build in this case? Nah. Copium.

[@mr123undead]

@@Alexxnderr10 she is standard, you eventualy will get her aka free, just build her full em E bot, ez

[@muhammadafif4023]

@@mr123undead wow diluc is in standard but far more better than her… shes worst than qiqi…

[@crownjun5930]

Dehya doesn't do anything in this show case😂 hyperbloom doing all their work

[@mmmkay2457]

Dehya contributed absolutely nothing to this hyperbloom team and everyone in the comments is like, “She’s so great! Ignore the majority of the community recommending otherwise and get this mediocre character!”

[@Bwaarone]

@@mmmkay2457 I think my favorite part is how the "F2P" team is actually a C6 lmao

[@taska9187]

​@@Bwaarone to be fair, their c6ness contribute almost nothing to this composition. I would say, c4 Collei gives a bit EM, c6 applies a little bit more water, and that's pretty much it. All Dehyas const more about her personal damage, which don't matter in bloom teams, all weapons were indeed f2p, so, yeah, it was indeed f2p :)

[@Bwaarone]

@@taska9187 ah yeah, i forgot that for Dehya's cons to matter she was supposed to do something in the first place lmao

[@cuentaalterna3754]

Dehya elemental skill also increase knockback RES, and she absorb some of the damage of the party. the elemental also add some damage and help with a few reactions, everyone is so fixed on the damage part of her kit.

[@AkatsukiOzma]

風花の配布武器が熟知だから合うかもね

[@えーのー-c5j]

龍血剣が色も合うし熟知ものびるしで愛用中

[@teryaaa]

ディシア夜蘭コレイ忍で組んでもいいのかな 俺の推しTOP4で組めてしまうの最高すぎる

[@ellosteve]

i love the abyss runs henna, please keep doing more!! 🫶🫶

[@rokoro2682]

行秋強いな…ということがよくわかりました

[@rinki2073]

ハイゼン、ディシア、夜蘭、忍PT楽しそう……ディシア引くか……

[@オールるるる]

半分くらい超開花でおもろいんだ

[@Najdjndj3938]

ディシアを最大限活かしたいならたしかにこれだな

[@vincentliou3746]

The first party against Childe. I think if you take Dehya off, the damage will still pretty much the same lol. Because it is Shinobu's hyperbloom that deals the real damage, am I right?

[@hulahupjingga]

No you are entirely wrong. Dehya needed to scare the shit of childe so he get resistance down by 1000000%

[@gregoriussanovedo7966]

yep, in that team dehya is just for triggering burgeon and super armor ability

[@YorinSenpai]

Surprisingly this build seems decent, not because of the burgeon itself (hyperbloom can do the same), but if we look carefully we can see some mixed overload reactions ~18k. Not amazing because we can do better with Xiangling or even Thoma, but still playable.

[@gregoriussanovedo7966]

@@YorinSenpai yes, but the difference with xiangling and thoma is they use burst, so you also need to recharge their energy, while dehya is just her skill. All on all, ppl can call dehya worst 5star, but for my self, personally she is an interesting char for those who like experimenting on gameplay and bored of using always the same meta team

[@もっくん-x4v]

結局爆発が腐ってるのが悲しいんだよなディシア

[@zerefartz4677]

最後のパーティーはアルハイゼンが深林4つけてる感じですかね？

[@henna-oyajii4684]

深林アルハイゼンです！

[@ealic7807]

海染ディシアもみたいw

[@amazing_nature-n9b]

She definetly DPS Support position

[@いちごミルク-s3g-y5k]

いやめちゃくちゃ怯んでるやん…中断耐性は…？

[@秋雨-g2s]

中断耐性は遺跡守衛のぐるぐる耐えれるくらいには高いけど効果時間が短い､､､

[@山ゆう-e9j]

9秒間だけなんすよね

[@甘湯-y1i]

一応9秒経過後にもあるのはあるんだけどセノ綾人以下なんよ

[@TeaChibi]

Funny thing is.....Kuki is carryng more then Dehya and Dehya is sort of messing up some dmg by doing overload id at least go full burgeon then mixing hyperbloom and burgeon in one team.... cuz its just hindering Hyperbloom dmg same goes for burgeon.

[@raurisaurus5057]

IWintolose pointed this out in a recent video. Hyperbloom is the most broken reaction and can carry anyone who isn't pyro, unless they are dehya/diluc which don't even need to use their skills. But klee and Yanfei can't use hyperbloom right. So yeah... Kuki can carry the entire game.

[@hulahupjingga]

Hb is so low investment f2p friendly we can get away with just 3 core character, and anything in 4 slot even for just element resonance, and do not use it entirely in battle.

[@Delightful567]

これもう超開花が強いだけなんよ（）

[@triyanuari9473]

The fact that 4* does more dmg than dehya with c6 is just sad

[@geto_suguru_simp]

I mean this is full EM Dehya. Most 4 stars don't do more damage than C6 Dehya

[@justadragonnamemarcus1751]

Xingling already does 10x dmg then her and she's free.😔

[@Onigumo.]

@@geto_suguru_simp have u seen EM yaoyao? Its like a 4* nahida

[@mr123undead]

@@justadragonnamemarcus1751 xl low key 5 star, mihoyo went idiot mode when designing her at early stage, same as xq

[@justadragonnamemarcus1751]

@@mr123undead yeah they didn't think about it in early versions But then suddenly they realised that They're making very powerful 4 stars that can overpass some 5 stars and that will make people to not to pull any limited character so they made weaker 4 stars so they can force people to pull 5 stars....

[@observadoranonimo3782]

そのチームは Dheya なしで機能し、thoma で改善されました

[@SINNNEEEE]

使った感じトーマより使いやすかったけどなぁ。 元素スキル押すだけで済むし祭礼シリーズ使えるってそれだけで優秀。

[@HageNeet_Shafu]

☆4と☆5で比較対象になってる時点で…感が否めない

[@アボカ丼族]

行秋をニィロウにしても大丈夫そうですか？スキルで殴っていく感じで

[@フル勃キン]

水元素付与要員ならどのキャラでもいいと思う

[@shugo_0]

エフェクトが多すぎて何が起きてるかわかんないｗ

[@The-js3vj]

草原核強いなぁ…

[@わたぱち-o2l]

やっぱ烈開花やな

[@BlueEyedWe1rd0]

basically yeah dehyas best team is raiden/ kuki hyperbloom...... just dont swap to her while playing

[@zzeefly]

😂😂😂

[@hulahupjingga]

Beta test genshin server? No, *we are* actually playing in beta test right now. Cause dehya kit definetely experimental

[@alvinhow7996]

Agree

[@あかさ-w2b2r]

アルハイゼンと夜蘭と忍が強いだけじゃねーかw

[@luxarcadia8589]

Dehya The Best Moral Support Lol

[@メロン-l3v]

他が強いって言ってるやついるけど超開花編成の最後のピースって言えるぐらいシナジーあるぞ

[@いちごミルク-s3g-y5k]

トーマでよくね？

[@ksq9888]

@@kin-35 超開花は3人で完成するから誰入れてもオッケ

[@chitanda-f5e]

@@いちごミルク-s3g-y5k それはマジで禁句だからやめとけ

[@メロン-l3v]

@@いちごミルク-s3g-y5k そもそも忍で使い切れなかった草原核を使う役目もあるのに忍より攻撃頻度が高いトーマ使うと忍より熟知が低いトーマでの開花が起きやすくなるんよ、ついでに耐久力も格段に上がる

[@いちごミルク-s3g-y5k]

@@メロン-l3v そういう見方もあるんですね！せめて突破ステが元チャならトーマも火力に振りやすかったんですけど…

[@alanosekai]

Great video but is she actually doing anything? lol if all she is doing is taking some of the damage from the team in that case wouldnt Zhongli be better since his shield shreds 20% of all elemental resistance and you take no damage and if you do take damage you have Kuki to heal. Her character design is great but right now she doesnt seem special at all, hopefully she gets the Kuki treatment and becomes amazing later on. At this point it seems like Hoyoverse has something against the tan skinned girls first Xinyan then Candace and now Dehya. sadge

[@disembark]

I've been saying hoyoverse hates dark skinned characters. You forgot to include Cyno. Every dark skin character is bad except Kaeya

[@kawaiimika7974]

​@@disembark Cyno isn't bad

[@disembark]

@@kawaiimika7974 he is

[@J-D-S]

答えあまり期待してませんが、なんでアルハイゼン爆発撃った直後元素スキル+落下攻撃したんでしょうか？完凸効果欲しいだけなら爆発後普通の元素スキルか重撃すれば良かったのではと思って気になったので… ディシアは元々興味なかったから無視…

[@user-nt8se9cu4t]

アルハイゼンのスキルは長押しだったらどの高さでも落下攻撃出来るので単純に楽だし攻撃も早く出来るからだと思いますよ また、完凸効果は出来れば鏡6枚欲しいのでスキルor重撃よりもスキルと重撃or落下攻撃した方がいいからやってるんだと思います

[@J-D-S]

@@user-nt8se9cu4t 完凸効果の発動条件はただ「鏡の数の上限突破」だけなので４枚で十分ですし、鏡を生み出すCDのせいで爆発・スキル・落下攻撃全部最初から使ってしまったら鏡３枚状態保てなく最終的に威力下がってしまうじゃないかなと思って気になりました…アルハイゼンの一番威力ある攻撃は１回の攻撃で草元素付着２回も出来る鏡3枚状態の光幕攻撃ですし…爆発から生み出す鏡は撃った後2秒くらい時間の差があるから落下と一緒に出た最初の光幕攻撃は完凸効果乗れない恐れも…単に考え過ぎたかもしれませんが…ごめんなさい…>_

[@user-nt8se9cu4t]

@@J-D-S アルハイゼン完凸の火力があれば長期戦にはならずに終わるのでそこら辺はあんまり気にしてない気がします

[@甘湯-y1i]

なんかめちゃくちゃ勘違いしてる気がするので消した さっきの長文コメ読んでたらすまん見なかったことにしてくれ

[@doityourself5521]

あれ？これディシア抜いて他の適正キャラ入れた方がつy...(ここで途切れている)

[@sznnitty]

That energy regen on Xingqiu 😟

[@towa7916]

原神最強格の人が頑張って無課金の為にディシア編成を考えてるのにこれか…みんな救おうとしてるけどこのキャラを救えるのは現状完凸くらいなのかもな…

[@peonene5557]

Am I the only one thinking that the 34k damage is from hyperboom?or I'm blind or something?

[@vnz4945]

Remember Xinyan and how broken her kit is? Yeah.

[@ばばば-v3y]

ディシアより他のメンバーが強いにしか見えんくてなんか…言葉に出来ねぇや

[@TheKenny2113]

so she really is just thoma scales with HP, which you just completely ignore, and build EM

[@gameeve8700]

すごい、私の熟知トーマよりちょっと劣るくらい！

[@スノノ-c1u]

やめてあげて、、、

[@user-sushipudding]

烈開花エアプだから教えてほしいんだけど、トーマが元チャ盛らなきゃいけない分ディシアの方が熟知は盛れると思うけど、それでもやっぱトーマの方が強いの？

[@紀野-q2z]

@@user-sushipudding 列開花は起こす頻度が重要なんですが、ディシアは2.5秒に一回しか起こせないのに対してトーマは1秒に一回起こせます。単純に開花の回数が多いので基本トーマの方が強くなりますね

[@豆大福太郎-y9q]

@@user-sushipudding ・トーマの追撃間隔が1秒でディシアは2.5秒だから、ディシアが1回起爆する間にトーマは2回反応起こせる ・烈開花は起爆側の元素熟知が1000あれば約27000の固定ダメ/500あれば約18000のダメが入る →元チャ盛熟知500トーマと熟知1000ディシアでもトーマに軍配 間違ってたらごめん🙇‍♀️

[@user-sushipudding]

@@紀野-q2z やっぱりそうなのか……悲しい

[@hokuhoku7875]

昔の動画のことを今思い出したんだけど、ジンでしめ縄剣闘士と翠緑剣闘士ってどう使い分けるの？

[@hokuhoku7875]

あと、ジンとディシア組んだらどうなの？

[@Sayra_07]

Nice

[@湖-o7b]

やっぱ裏から炎出せるキャラってだけで現状は役割あるよね シャンリンでいいって言われると……ほら、中断耐性とかあるから………

[@myusernamegoeshere90]

Dehya best character in the game????? 😱😱😱😱????? She really Dehya'd all over those guys, omg!!!!

[@mrjackdandy]

can i see ur dehya stats? 👀

[@絶縁-n1k]

トーマと同じぐらい強いな()

[@nkao_777]

水神で救われそう

[@SH-NN]

If only she works like albedo.

[@jame207]

I saw very few explosions and protection cc 9 s saw too little effect

[@んぽよ-f1n]

(それディシアじゃなくてアルハイゼンと夜蘭が強いだけでは…)

[@dusk_bny]

What if you use Yao Yao instead of Shinobu?

[@cresentj]

Then it would be a burgeon team. Just give dehya sacrificial Greatsword and she can trigger cores quicker while also becoming the on field driver. Or replace kuki with sucrose as dehya let's sucrose swirl pyro easily without screwing over your reactions because her sanctum doesnt trigger pyro too fast.

[@TsumuSmile]

I thought for a second the claymore was mehrak xD

[@Yeyeyayayoyo]

I can’t even see the damage because everyone else’s is infront of her’s

[@biktorgaming934]

put yao yao for full heal f2p party xd

[@shinjiikari0290]

Barbara carried

[@gilangmaulana1075]

Wow,a good kuk- sorry I mean dehya 😅

[@schizophrenia6496]

и зачем здесь дехья когда отряд тащит и без нее..

[@o-bun]

でもこの使い方ならディシアじゃなくてもいいんだよね…(つ᷄ὢ･᷅ )

[@moji9209]

Soooooo, what does Dehya need for this team?🥲

[@Hana-lt2iv]

Dehya is doing nothing here bruh it's thank to Dendro reaction only

[@mr.nobody590]

Change kuki to raiden for real whale team

[@Dubstep_Gun]

Barbara/DMC/Collei/Kuki hyperbloom team is a thing and can clear abyss. Dehya...actually makes this team worse, sorry.

[@炸裂グリンピース-u1j]

ディシアは可愛いから性能とかどうでもいいもん！

[@Bot_Zim]

First time i saw "F2P" in this channel

[@たぽん-w3h]

鍾離じゃダメ？（禁句）

[@ckfurkan]

whats the point of dehya there

[@ゆーじ-c8j]

ディシアをトーマにした方が強いとは言うまい

[@lpssste87845]

これが廃課金の暴力かぁ…(白目

[@user-sushipudding]

この編成は課金要素ほぼ0ですよ

[@秋雨-g2s]

@@user-sushipudding強いて言うならディシア2凸かな？

[@user-sushipudding]

@@秋雨-g2s 確かに2凸してたらうれしいですね！

[@Kamasan0301]

@@user-sushipudding ディシア完凸してるくね？

[@real1323]

@@Kamasan0301 そういうことじゃなくね 火力に結構影響してるとしたら2凸効果だけど、他は無凸でも同じくらい火力出るよってことでしょ

[@BlinkOtakusagi]

Vídeo 3 Dehya

[@unknown-wg9zs]

😢

[@kenpachi871]

Sheesh

[@muchsakri]

Em +tank hmmmm

[@nguoisaohoa6410]

Dehya > all of ur c6 chars

[@ahmadreka6561]

Bang minta akun bang ;(