Emax Tinyhawk Project Mockingbird | THE BEST IT'S EVER FLOWN

[@markpfeifer1402]

As the quad universe expands, I think it would be awesome if betaflight had a built-in "suggested tune" listing of drop-down PID profiles you could just punch in. There could be some for whoops, 3", 5", 6", 7", X-Class, Beast-Class, racing, long range, bad motor, too much prop wash....it would be really nice to have a starting off point for the type of quad we have. Yes, I admit I am lazy and dread PID tuning.

[@rhettlee]

The future is here, lol

[@harryfp1494]

@@rhettleeis that how it is now ? 😂I have been out of the game for a wile now

[@spacecowboyfpv5511]

Have you tried smashing it into various things to test its durability? You could call it, "To Kill a Mockingbird".....yep.

[@jordan59961]

🤦‍♂️

[@NOWWATTFPV]

Lmao....

[@trfpvVT]

I recently put that tune on my tinyhawk and subbed to their channel, flys great. Turns out I was their 1k sub and got a free shirt too. Sweet.

[@Fraggelfluff]

Does these settings still apply to the Tinyhawk 3 today? Thankfull for answers 🙏

[@scottopsahl3205]

I've used the Mockingbird documentation also to make a few adjustments to PID's, etc. Makes a world of difference. The TinyHawk flies like a completely differnet quad.

[@fulofbrightnes]

Thank you for the review and reconsidering the tinyhawk, I have had mine since December 1st and couldn't understand why you where not very happy with it. I have also had project mockingbird on mine since day 1. I think I flew 2 packs on stock tune then went to this tune and have loved it ever since. Seeing as you hadn't tried the project mocking bird tune until now I see why you didn't think it was amazing to fly. Thanks for the honest content JB.

[@fpvanything5554]

Just in time!!! My TinyHawk came today! I'd say stock PIDs feel like pushing a balloon around with a fan. Thanks for another amazing video!

[@markedfortime]

Wow..I have to say I was not expecting much out of this little quad. These changes have completely transformed this little bugger. I didn't necessarily like all of the settings but after tweaking it performs nearly as good as the mobula7..just a little slower. On acro, the loops and flips are still sluggish to recover, but the throttle is much more responsive now. In door flying is now fun. This has made me rethink using default betaflight PIDS, which have been pretty darn good for most of my built quads...but I think I can do better now.

[@shaggy69001]

"oh yeah baby get in there! Get in there! Oh i got sloppy having too much fun!" I love this guy lmao ill be getting one of these soon

[@westoncraig]

Coming back to my TinyHawk after 3 years of not flying... Thanks so much for you amazing content!

[@gazza3166]

using mockingbird for abt a month now on kinkong r7..love it cant believe how good it is......no drift on sharp turning..when you did the interview about this thats when i tried it and love it

[@arnerrvik7586]

Great stuff. I got a little throttle curve, and 0.05 expo in there in addition to the PMB settings. I'm NOT a good pilot, and I'm threading it through 15cm high gaps with ease. So much fun:-) Thanks, Bardwell!

[@jester3265]

What a great in-door set-up JB, that looks great fun! The Mockingbird website looked really user friendly and easy to follow, thanks for the heads up. Thanks to the guys at Mockingbird for all the work they have produced. Still waiting for winter to loose her grip so I can get flying again.

[@aphinion]

Just threw the tunes of PMB v4 on my tinyhawk II... And holy hell did it make a difference. I really love my little practise whoop now, more than ever! Thanks for introducing it!

[@Bikelife-TEZ]

From the first time I herd you talk about the mockingbird tune for the tiny hawk I tried and I'm really impressed my tiny hawk is locked in Joshua and I love how when I switch between acro and angle has two different rates

[@starsstripesjacket]

Could you do a review of the Project Mockingbird tune and compare it to stock but using acro mode outside?

[@michaelfredricks2286]

I added some expo in on the transmitter on Rpy to make it a little less sharp. Really like it. I also used a throttle curve that jumps straight up early in the curve. Moves the cruising throttle spot down on the stick. It doesn't even hover until almost 50 percent throttle. This also gives a lot more linearity to the throttle.

[@shadofpv]

I'm sitting here using the same pid setup 4 years later on a th2 frame that i've just built, thanks for the vids bardwell :D

[@scottburke5986]

Have you tried Bob's tune from Kababfpv? Phenomenal tune for the TinyHawk.

[@xpane]

Have a Tinyhawk and so far it flies like a wounded dove. Will try this tomorrow. Thanks Josh.

[@papadocquadshop2108]

I put project mockingbird settings on my tiny hawk(acro) and it flies great, I have changed a few minor things, but I've literally worn out a set of motors already. The motors wouldn't start up at the same time, and it was getting weaker. Once I swapped them out it flew like new. I would say well over a 100 hours flight time. I put it through incredible punishment as well, slamming into rock walls, and tree trunks so many times every time I was sure it was the last, but it's still kicking, and with practice you can do some pretty cool freestyle.( I really want a 2s tiny hawk because the 1s is under powered for proper freestyle)

[@TaenXD]

Hello! Just a reminder that TinyHawk Just came out with the v2 and that is 2s!

[@JohnFSmitheugene]

Nice video, Joshua and thank you for getting the word out on this. My friend and I both fly the Tinyhawk and we’re both looking forward to trying out this tune. Much appreciated as always.

[@witblitsfpv1265]

"I look like a good pilot...." 😂 I need this.... 😂

[@Martin-cq3yp]

Wow that makes a huge difference. Thanks a lot for this info Joshua, it makes the tinyhawk so much more fun to fly!

[@caymandiver75]

This is sweet! My little soft smooth and prop washy Tinyhawk now feels razer sharp! I'm impressed.

[@JEMTAC]

tried it, mind blown, thank you Mr Bardwell.

[@jasonburke2596]

Great video. I’m an absolute clown on Betaflight so this video is extremely helpful. I’ve had my Tinyhawk for 3 years but I’ve hardly flown it because of the poor performance and as I said earlier, I’m useless with Betaflight! Hopefully this does the trick! Thank you for sharing this Joshua.

[@Darksagan]

I just ordered one..this will be the first thing I do to it.

[@netofpv8030]

My just arrived but i'm a very newbie in this fpv world i buyed the RTF version and i did this project in my tinyhawk and now i can not control it is too much fast Jesus! I can't leave my room with this whoop!

[@marcoreviews]

I feel like getting one now... is there a mod for the geprc tinygo?

[@kickfliph]

I got late to the game, but this configuration really gives a better response to the Quad, thanks! great video.

[@propwash6880]

I did this tune and the tinyhawk is much much much more enjoyable and controllable. I put the TH up for a while. Now I fly it more often.

[@patregan]

I put the Project Mockingbird settings on my Tinyhawk before even taking my first test flight. I knew their settings made a huge difference on my crummy Eachine QX65, so I figured their brushed whoop tweaks were worth testing. I have no idea if it makes a difference, Joshua, but I've also borrowed Mark Spatz's brushed whoop filter settings. I'm assuming I got these numbers straight from one of his videos. My Gyro Lowpass 1 is at 150, and D Term Lowpass 1 is at 200, both are set to biquad. If I understand correctly, the biquad filter has less latency than the PT1 filter. Thanks for the update!

[@MMMMIIIITTTT]

I'm a fan of your work, JB. Keep it up.

[@michaelbryant3643]

Holly cow what a difference! I can actually fly indoors now! So excited to learn and eventually buy those led flags hahah

[@TM245]

Nice! I'm so happy to hear you say these things about Mockingbird.

[@iknowlaa]

Dear J.B, thanks a million for this info, i've just flown the tinyhawk with the mocmingbird v3 tune and its awesome(love it in acro)!..Keep up the great review n infos. 2 thumbs up for you sir!

[@pksteffen]

I have a Tinyhawk. I love flying it because it is a chill cruiser. My Rambo Whoop from Micro Motor Warehouse outflies it for speed and maneuverability any day. Instead of squeezing some extra tune out of something designed for a different flight, I’d go buy a Trashcan or a Rambo Whoop.

[@mikeodell5915]

I bought this Tiny Hawk as a BNF. I haven't bought a radio yet...any suggestions on a radio that I should get ....keeping in mind I'm looking to grow with it and use it with other micros and larger machines??!!

[@summit4618]

0:53 "stay tuned" 👌👌👌

[@LeonVuksic]

I did this 2 months ago and I love it since then!

[@xtkfpv5306]

Well it looks like we all learned something today LOL. I am going to try this, I have always liked the way my tinyhawk flew but then I am comparing it to my old tinywhoop with brushed motors, it never occurred to me that it could fly better. I have the 4 blade props so that I can turtle mode so my settings may be a bit different.

[@slaskskrot2868]

Also had that crazy camera mode come on, also makes all inputs inverted!

[@aDogboydave]

I destroyed my last 1 S whoop this weekend so while I wait for some parts from BG I ordered a Tinyhawk from a domestic source. I didn't want all my batteries to go bad while I was waiting for parts. (Hey that's my story and I am sticking to it) Great timing thanks for the info.

[@rbmwiv]

I fly my tinyhawk S on 1s hv 90% of the time. It’s too fast on 2s in the house. Also you get more flight time. The factory tune on it is great. Awesome video Joshua!

[@duggerinc]

Ordered my tinyhawk yesterday, thanks for all the lessons!

[@doontremember]

Please update the link, reference instructions, the link is damaged, and there are no documents. Thank you for what you provide Tinyhawk Mockingbird Project Setup Instructions

[@Grubbet]

Thanks for this. This helped me a lot. Haven't tested it yet, but hopefully all good.

[@Grubbet]

its so good!

[@MaxBeamer]

I was skeptical that my tinyhawk could fly any better but even more skeptical that someone could tune it better than me... IT FLYS AMAZING mockinghawk FTW

[@florianschwab5119]

As an absolute newcomer, I approve this settings. Im now able to land again safely.

[@DiGi_FPV]

2:37 who saw the lipo hanged behind him ? 😂

[@headach3244]

Lol yeah

[@gasser5001]

Ordered the Tinyhawk RTF kit with 11 extra batteries... Hopefully it gets here sooner than later! I will be changing everything before I fly it. Probably do it while charging the batteries. I can't wait! I've wanted to get into FPV flying for a long time now and this is perfect! I'm kind of late to the party but hey, better late than never!

[@graywoulf]

I was able to do a factory CLI dump to get my quad back to working again. I just can't decide whether or not to try this again but do the changes one at at time like you did.

[@KC-su9nb]

Just out of curiosity I searched for the Beta75 Pro2 mockingbird. Same wow factor. Good luck with your new addition!

[@captainsumtingwong]

THANKS C.I.A.!!! @0:38

[@PatrickTT]

CIA bitches ruin the hobby!!!

[@captainsumtingwong]

@@PatrickTT xD xD xD

[@jakelang4387]

This is my problem Josh .i just bought this and very displeased ..i hope these changes help..thanks man

[@hcarltonadams]

Good video and very helpful. I would be interested to see you do some acro with mockingbird on tinyhawk. Would like a tutorial on the rate switching. When it’s warmer and earlier in the day😜

[@JosephDawson]

I totally agree on PMB on my Tinyhawk made it go from a good quad to an amazing one. Also, no PBM profile exists for Mobula7 but I put the Tinyhawk settings on the Mobula7 (on 1S) and it also flew better. For me, the PBM setup on my Tinnyhawk cut my lap times by about 30% and it improved my Mobula7 (on 1S) lap times by 15%. I did add some expo and made some tweaks to the auto level so it is not quite as brutal but I would say I am 95% PBM V3 stock tune.

[@danemartin5288]

I just followed along and set up Angle and Horizon. Don't know if i'll use horizon, but i tried it for a quick roll and it was good. Angle mode is killer!! Thanks

[@vallenthorpe6495]

Nice video man I got my brushless tinywhoop a few days ago there soo much fun

[@jtcustomknives]

Love to see you try out the tinyhawk2. I just snagged one off eBay and excited to chase my wide with it 🧐

[@enderbean7862]

Would this improve the Tinyhawk S?

[@ZabDevin]

And Tinyhawk 2 Freestyle?

[@AKtoTok]

used the project mockingbird tune on my tinyhawk 2 and it literally doubled the power! insane! things a blast =)

[@ZabDevin]

I have the Freestyle. Do you think it’s worth it???

[@AKtoTok]

@@ZabDevin ya i would recommend saving a dump of your cli and then go ahead and apply the mockinghawk tune. It could definitely be tweaked for the freestyle to be more like a freestyle tune, (lower filters), but id recommend trying to see.

[@ZabDevin]

AKtoTok Thanks! Actually, I just want to tune it down to fly indoors because I’m a noob. Any suggestions?

[@AKtoTok]

@@ZabDevin absolutely, i recommend practicing indoors on horizon mode. You can absolutely utilize the Mockinghawk tune but make sure and run it on 1s indoors only! Make sure your rates are not too high as well. Feel free to gimme a shout if you have any other questions 🤙.

[@ZabDevin]

AKtoTok I really appreciate it.

[@thargor6750]

Been messing with this for a few months. It's really good.

[@bobcatfpv]

Joshua I live this tune and have been flying it since Patrick launched it. But I run angle strength at 90. Try it. Omg. I find it a little better feeling that at 100

[@nicholasytl]

Awesome! Will this work on the Tinyhawk II? The proj mockingbird file says Project Mockingbird v3 for Tinyhawk v2 but it seems to be for OG tinyhawk

[@jammjamm9509]

What about ready to fly versions running on a different flash

[@Bikelife-TEZ]

Just have to say thanks alot Joshua for this I'm in love with it now I can't get enough it makes me feel like a pro

[@rc-fannl7364]

What happened to the battery? You said it was dying, but the OSD showed 3.8 volts, which is very high actually?

[@rc-fannl7364]

So that means these settings make the motors draw more power?

[@substratum3d]

Is there a link to all of the project mockingbirds? I can't find anything on Google.

[@automaton450]

This! There really needs to be a list compiled of all the various PMB google docs out there.

[@MCsCreations]

Really amazing, JB! Great flying!!! 😃 Thanks for everyone involved! (Even... CIA? 😳)

[@jbell9490]

Just tuned my tinyhawk... freaking amazing! I thought I was just a really crappy newbie, turns out I'm just a newbie 🙃

[@scooterpie1143]

Excellent, I am recommending the emax tiny hawk bundle to my noobs.. This just makes everything better and your the freakin man!

[@leesops710]

Thanks for this video I got TH 2 out of the box after BNF it was well crap. Your video was a god send I followed 100% as you did and wow thank you so much for this video.

[@jyunte]

@Joshua Bardwell... I take it the mAh display on the OSD is incorrect, since the TinyHawk comes with 450mW batteries, and the video shows you've used over 700mA?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It certainly can't be right can it.

[@gnarlyblasterboys4123]

So much great information on your video! I learned so much about beta flight while watching this video! Your such a good nerd!

[@RCbra]

Nice review, thanks

[@mark1944]

Do you have to use a particular version of betaflight or can you use that latest 4.1?

[@gabyguay6990]

+1 also with the rpm filter, it seems more easy for tune

[@mikemiller2359]

You unleashed its inner beast

[@mbycfpv8937]

gonna try it FOOOOR sure. Thanks.

[@AcroDaredevil]

what do you think of fresstyle flying with those pids and feedforward?

[@Octav4homemade]

I'd also like to know. Do people use PMB for acro freestyle? I'm mainly using my Tinyhawk in playgrounds and small parks. I just love playing around the branches of tress or trying to hit super small gaps. It's my very first FPV quad though, having only flown LoS before, and it's also my first time learning acro. So I don't have a base of comparison for how a quad for freestyle "should feel like".

[@FarmerFpv]

@@Octav4homemade I don't think it's a good idea because you will be picking up bad habits. You want the quad to fly as raw as possible in acro mode. Any yaw roll coupling will make it really weird. This is more for angle or auto level. And the stock PIDs work awesome on pretty much any 5 inch mini quad. And will fly 20 times better than this.

[@IanBeaty]

It said "11,111 views" when I watched it! Thanks so much for making this video - I have a Tinyhawk and I convinced several friends to get them. Can't wait to get them flying better! I will have to try their UR65 tune too!

[@robertdefiance2314]

Hi Josh, will this work with the Tinyhawk II Freestyle? Thanks

[@RYVENANT]

You think this will work with the Tinyhawk 2?

[@Georgewrigley]

I'll save this video . Thank you for sharing buddy. I'll get used to flying this baby first lol. Then learn about beta flight etc. Cheers 👍😊✈️

[@checkeredflagfilms]

Here's a nub challenge. I tried some of the mockingbird settings but didn't like the results. I hit 'reset' to default setting in BetaFlight and it wiped out all the factory settings. I don't know actually where to start to get the whoop back in the air. Do I have to flash the firmware first...or just go get the RTF dump. A procedural video/explanation would be quite helpful for beginners. I've seen your BetaFlight tutorials but the setting are for other types of quads. Here I simply would like to get back the 'factory' square one. thanks.

[@ManuFPV]

Joshua! You need to try any 65mm brushess whoop with mokingbird v3! I have tested the tinyhawk vs the cheaper uk65 both with mokingbird and I prefer the uk65 easily... Please try it!

[@ManuFPV]

The weight difference makes a huuuge difference! At least for me

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I have the UK65 and will be testing it soon.

[@lifeinrc9051]

Thanks for the video Joshua, I do have a question. I notice your FPV cam on your Tiny shows some of the frame. I have the Tinyhawk S and I don't see my frame at all my view is at a higher angle I'm thinking. Is this something new with the Tinyhawk S? I checked to see if my cam was popped out of place and it's not. And advice on this? It's definitely a bit harder to fly it indoors with this view as it goes way faster at this angle.

[@K9TPT]

Been waiting for this video Thank You

[@Lorreporrie]

Dear Joshua, thans for your videos. Your content has been a great help in getting into FPV. I’ll be curious to experience the mockingbird myself. In context of your review of the Tinyhawk, have you tried turtle mode with the updated 4-props? I tried to configure turtle mode myself with your instruction videos, however the props spin like crazy when the tiny hawk is upside down and you arm the motors, is that supposed to be like that?

[@davidpowell7164]

Hey Joshua, I've been watching a crap ton of your videos and other peoples videos and I've been flying a syma x15 line of sight and I really wanted to get into fpv and because of price and the fact its rtf I am going to get a tiny hawk. I have never flown fpv but already after watching a ton of videos about the hobby know that I want to upgrade the antenna, camera and the motors on the tinyhawk and also change the antennas on the goggles it comes with (I will eventually upgrade the goggles and receiver) and was wondering if you you could recommend which motors and camera I should get for it. Also thanks for all the videos i have learnt lots from you.

[@jimmycarr3368]

been waiting on this vid josh. glad to see it. will sure try and will let you know how i feel about the hype.

[@FPV_ee]

Hello, first off all a big thank you for your informativ and teaching videos. I like watching them as mostly no question is left open after watching full video. Im happy to take that into my buying decisions in my copter hobby. This time I ask myself and I can not find anywhere the correct answer. Is it possible to bind an tinyhawk 2 copter from set (rc/ Goggls/copter) to an frsky xlite. I am really unsure because the sparepart flightcontroller does not seam to be different, so one pcb for both version. On the other hand on the emax support area are two different dumpfiles. One for the bnf and one for the setcopter. Or is this the only difference I use dump file bnf on a set tinyhawk I have bind and fly? Thanks for anyone who understands my question and has a simple answer. Greetings from Germany

[@wtfDorianGray]

Anyone have any experience with mockingbird + tinyhawk 2? or some other recommended tune for TH2?

[@pg1953]

Have the same question does this tune work for TH2?

[@djbis]

Wonder if they have included the new Tinyhawk S as part of the project. The first Gen tinihawk settings probably won't fly all that great on the S...

[@skirmich]

Just tried it today on my new S it flies AMAZING...

[@NYC11435]

Is it possible to change any settings on beta flight for a Ready to Fly Tiny Hawk ??👍✌

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yes, absolutely! The only limitation is that you cannot reconfigure the transmitter so you would have to tweak the Modes to match the transmitter. If the PMB guys are clever, they will think of this and come out with a PMB tune specifically for the RTF.

[@NYC11435]

@@JoshuaBardwell Thank for your quick response, much appreciated.

[@brantchurchill7415]

Where are your lit up gates from?

[@Rawfury17]

Awesome information man. I'll be sure to set this on my tiny. Keep it up. Best in the biz 🤙😁

[@cavman7]

Nice. Do we know if these settings would work on an Eachine Trashcan?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I think it's worth a try.

[@bl4ckr4bbit]

Is the tinyhawk II worth it for the price upgrade?

[@ddrcoder]

Thanks for sharing this. What a difference!

[@ElevatedKustoms]

@joshuabardwell FYI you missed that they turned I term relax off for the y axes. You have as RPY they have as RP only