Emergency Defence System! ❗DIF CIWS, From the Depths Tutorial

[@MarieAvora]

So it's kinda ship sized Explosive Reactive Armor innit

[@BorderWise12]

More like a ship-sized Trophy system, but yup, that's the idea.

[@feleazor]

Holy that instant nullified Eyrie volley is a delicious sight

[@BorderWise12]

@@feleazor Yup, feels goooooood 😁

[@gustaveliasson5395]

Might save rambot's life.

[@JohnMcFist]

The damage bonus vs munitions is 2x, not 5x. You can see at 6:03, two shells hit one missile and they do 117k damage which is right around 4x the listed damage per shell of 29k.

[@BorderWise12]

@@JohnMcFist Oh blast, you're right, whoops. I thought I was misremembering that.

[@dripwastaken7884]

Burst flak systems tend to outperform dif ciws if you have enough budget to get a decent one going

[@BorderWise12]

That is actually the advantage of DIF guns: they're really small and really cheap, so it's easy to plonk them down all over the place.

[@DirtyTuskan]

if you set the intercept range of the dif to be 700 then lets say 400 for the second set you can try and take out a couple large missiles at a time. ngl i really want to put a system on to my battleships

[@midnight235-whatisxx4eq]

Your videos always come at the right time. Exactly what I need for the stuff I'm currently building.

[@BorderWise12]

Yay! Glad to hear that. :)

[@PurpleShieldCat]

There is a way to get a non-DIF shell that is nearly as powerful but can actually fit into a 8m loader, but it is a pure railgun and is more expensive than a DIF gun BUT doesn't have the downside of being mostly useless after 5 shots and considering the avrg reload time of powerful cram cannons and large/hug missiles building one that is still decently cheap and capable of reloading in time is fairly simple ... Can't easily use the two axis turret trick for faster aiming though My shell layout for it is 18 piece shell - 500mm - 5k Raildraw -Emergency ejection defuse -Timed fuse -Stabilizer fun body And the rest as munition defence Ends up with ~26k anti-munition dmg vs the ~29k of DIF flak

[@BorderWise12]

Good point, I should try pure railguns for CIWS work. Worth a shot! :)

[@JohnMcFist]

If you're going to not use DIF, I feel you might as well use smaller shells as well to help decrease overkill. 225mm shells with munition defence head, 3 MD bodies, and timed fuse, adds up to 1m shell length and hits the max explosion radius of 30m almost perfectly. You can use this for railguns, particularly burst systems, or you can stick ejection defuse and gunpowder on the end and use it in 2m loaders without rails.

[@GMODISM]

Oh I know that ship in the end!!!! also the gimles missile interceptors have steering thrusters for many of them, I found that they are great at hitting cram shells configured like that, also as damaging a shell does decrees it's damage it can be worth while to have some constant damage mitigation (maybe) the gimle has some cram spammers to trick ciws also but syncing them is very neat, however I rarely do that because I feel they tend to not behave as I want them and holing fire on me which makes me more upset than that last cram shell getting through ;)

[@BorderWise12]

Yup, syncing guns is very fiddly and doesn't always go as planned. XD

[@goatcat2737]

3:20 I think "exploit" might be a bit misleading because I believe this is an intended mechanic

[@dollcet308]

Hmm, could you actually makes drones/subvehicles with DIF-Cwis to get around the lousy reload by constant spawn and despawn cycle?

[@BorderWise12]

Maybe? That would burn a lot of materials, though.

[@janKoloja]

Sub vehicle spawners have a cap of 10 spawns (which is a lot) but you might as well just put a dif gun craft in front of your ship to break and be repaired, reloading the gun

[@dollcet308]

@@janKoloja Guess for most this will work out, im was thinking mainly about older designs with a full decks and in need of rework because of the turret changes.

[@CM-NightDK]

Not very ciws, this is a trophy system.

[@morimoriplaygames]

My favourite From the Depths tutorials!

[@alexandermich2871]

I used spam cram mortars against the gimile, it was good because it got the dif guns looking up and away from my bigger crams. I based my craft loosely on your draki. It's the gem crested Starfall that he fought a few weeks back or so. It's the one that is extremely long and only 6m tall for most of the ship

[@BorderWise12]

Nice! CRAM mortars make really good distractions, they can be worth using for that alone.

[@3dwrecker_4660]

May start using these...

[@janKoloja]

You should make another most wanted on the snig now that a single moderately sized piercing pac can one shot it, due to the fire update

[@cat2ons361]

Good timing Lol, i needed this 24 hours ago, i hate Lams😭 Guess i am switching to Dif now.

[@JohnMcFist]

Regular APS flak works as well, as do missile interceptors. What LAMS can do that nothing else can is to shoot down APS shells, it's actually generally pretty mediocre against crams and missiles.

[@Llamazone-Prime]

44 seconds ago you say? Oh well there's my bedtime listening sorted then! :D

[@trevordrakenor2063]

Trophy system.... I had thought about making it, tried testing it. I can't for the life of me think of how to make it smaller than that. The system needs to at least have firing rate that is faster than the heaviest gun or launcher can reload, a Cram cannon or large missile that takes 40s to reload for example, the trophy system needs to at least, be ready to fire before that time. It can't do that without enlarging the system itself, or have multiple of it, that takes a lot of space.

[@reaperox_]

Ok, I'm curious, can you try to make a CRAM CIWS? I wanna see if it is possible.

[@ShawnReed-h9z]

Hang on, what? x5?? Since when? That's news to me. HE has a x2 modifier, as does plasma- but x5 for flak? That has to have been since the name change for the shell part or sooner. I'm not saying it's not, but I'd love to see it tested (can't, m'self, right now- my laptop is being repaired with a new motherboard). What health did the Javelin's missile have? Ala, does it also have x2 dmg modifier, or is it actually more?

[@BorderWise12]

@@ShawnReed-h9z It's x2, I misremembered. 😅

[@jasiojakubowski2235]

Do APS HE shell CIWS work? Also can you publish your new test fortress?

[@BorderWise12]

Yes, but flak has a larger radius and damage bonus against projectiles, so it's generally better for this. Also sure, I will do that! :)

[@BorderWise12]

Here you go! steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3338292904

[@nobunagaoda8439]

Hewwo, how much cheese would a diff gun battleship be >.>

[@BorderWise12]

Plenty! But the fun kind of cheese. :)

[@Cobrax_x]

Spam 1000 500mm and you get something that oneshots everything

[@freedomfighter2054]

This is just an APS