Emerging Observations | The Kill Zone

Too many people don't take enough care when emerging. They try and go too fast and don't look thoroughly enough. In this video I try and address this issue.
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[@huwprice881]

If it’s a tricky emerge I usually pop my windows down so I can hear as well as see.

[@Martin4963]

I tend to drive with my window down regardless, got me out of potential trouble loads of time and you can hear emergency vehicle sirens must earlier.

[@deanwood2332]

it took a lot of years , but i say to myself "have you ever done that" . every time some one does wrong by me . and mostly the answer is yes so i dont react

[@iKaGe01]

Making small mistakes is fine as long as people learn from them

[@aleopardstail]

the delight of trying to emerge from a driveway when someone has "helpfully" parked a van one side and a 4x4 the other utterly blocking the view both ways

[@captainfutility1]

also good to slow down to avoid the corner-cutter not looking on the way in

[@kenbrown2808]

you have those in your town, too, do you?

[@captainfutility1]

@@kenbrown2808 the rule, rather than the exception :/

[@kenbrown2808]

@@captainfutility1 and it's always the ones with the smallest cars that have the most trouble keeping them between the lines.

[@jaytoppo1670]

Another day of Ash's refreshers, refreshing as always mate, thank you!

[@ollieb9875]

My driving instructor mentioned sometimes it might be appropriate to wind the window down and actually _listen_ as well

[@ollieb9875]

@@madisntit6547 well yeah 😅 👍 we live out in buttheck nowhere and often turns are occluded by hedges and that. 🙂

[@EP3mentalist]

When I was a new driver (back in the 90s) I was a bit nervous driving at night. My dad taught me that in some ways night driving is safer because you can see cars coming round corners because of the headlights.

[@ollieb9875]

@@EP3mentalist true enough, until you round the corner briskly and there's a deer stood there 😅 touch wood the worst thing I hit was a hedge in reverse, that was embarrassment.

[@Martin4963]

I'd say you should be listening ALL the time regardless.

[@bazzacuda_]

Having the window down also gives you the opportunity to shout "Get to specsavers you blind ar5ehole!" That's a joke BTW. And a stolen one at that.

[@danielstone1262]

"Right, Left, Right, Left" - "Watch the tennis match" my instructor would say.

[@edwardtye4119]

That's a good way of putting it.

[@PedroConejo1939]

We always called out 'left, ..., left, ..., left, right, left,' when square bashing. Probably not that useful for learning where to look when emerging. I just like to remember, 'who's going to hit me first?' Works in every country.

[@paulcollyer801]

There was me thinking it was a drill pig in reverse… Ah thenk yoo. Ahm ‘ere aww week

[@koreainsincere]

Since I've been watching your videos I've had a good look at my own driving and how I can improve it. It's amazing the bad habits we all fall into on the roads, especially when we've been driving for a long time (in my case more than 30 years). A while back I resolved never to use the horn as a rebuke, no matter how bad the situation appeared to be. I also never go above the speed limit, even if tailgated. It is amazing how much more relaxed your driving can be if you don't get triggered by what others are doing. They don't know you and so it cannot ever be personal so don't treat it as such. Just breathe, accept they have made a mistake (as we all do) and get on with your day. Less stress equals a potentially longer life. Keep up the good work on the channel, my own son starts driving later this year and I'll direct him here to use your videos as an extra learning tool.

[@kenbrown2808]

I almost never use my horn at all, but a few years ago, I was traveling in the states in a motorhome. I was overtaking a slower vehicle on an upgrade and some yobbo in a Volvo undertook and cut in front of me close enough to make his entire car disappear into my forward blind spot. all it took to explain the sudden braking to my wife, who was asleep when it happened, was to say, "that horn was me."

[@RandomShart]

I drive and ride a motorcycle and the difference is pronounced on how many cars pull out in front of me when I'm riding vs driving. Even for competent drivers, your brain is acting against you, on a quick glance it will prioritise seeing the big bus that's just behind the small cycle or motorbike. It's always worth taking an extra couple of seconds to be sure before pulling out into traffic.

[@iwalker3809]

There was a tv feature a few years ago called 'Think Bike' to bring this to drivers attention. Such a shame it was dropped.

[@TrapStation]

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast

[@georgeratcliffe7752]

Especially when fast= crash Crashing is a lot slower than pulling out slowly

[@themittonmethod1243]

always! cheers from canada!

[@ynotnilknarf39]

slower is generally safer, but actually acknowledging the threat to other road users that one presents and acting accordingly is high up there. With increased speed you reduce the distance to others/obstacle/hazrad and also thinking/action time. Hnec why speed IS a major factor in virtually all incidents

[@LANOH89]

I have MS and its hard for me to emerge some times because when i look left in right my eyes jump about so i have to take extra care. That's why i always give the person in front of me as much time as they need to emerge, but some people try to bully you to pull out and i think this all so has a impact on some people's poor emerging.

[@74HC138]

Don't forget a fast cyclist is probably still below the speed limit. Sustaining 30 mph on the flat, in no wind, on a bicycle is HARD. But if you do get up to that speed (e.g. you have a tail wind), then it's best to take the position in the road you would on a motorcycle. You're keeping up with traffic, so you aren't inconveniencing anyone by being there, and importantly, you're a LOT more visible. The trouble with staying in the secondary position is that motorists at junctions won't see you. There's a downhill section on my ride to work, speed limit 40, where on a bicycle I'll get out right to the centre line and cover both brakes because there is a junction with very poor visibility, and I need to be able to see if there's a vehicle coming to the stop line, and importantly, I need the driver of this vehicle to see me - neither which can happen if riding in the gutter.

[@benedictearlson9044]

Be careful, you saw in this vid 2 drivers failing to see and yield to other vehicles. Even in Primary position you WILL be invisible to some drivers. Drivers too often look for other vehicles not bikes and their brain filters out people on bikes. You need to be ready to stop at the junction to avoid a car that pulls out on you, you can't do that above maybe 15mph.

[@bazzacuda_]

There was a chap a few videos back trying to deny that an unrestricted ebike was even an ebike. He said he used to easily ride at 30mph on an upright bike with big tyres and not looking like he was trying. 😂 If he could do that he would have been beating Lance Armstrong up alpine cols.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

@@bazzacuda_ An unrestricted ebike is no longer an ebike, it's an illegal electric motorbike. These are extremely rare fortunately, however the operators of these machines are usually the same haphazard tools that ride mopeds and in too many instances drive/ride motorvehicles. Also there's a significant difference from a psychological POV between a person using their own effort to cycle at 30mph and one that is using electrical or combustable fuel to achieve the same speed. How many people on cycles have been found at fault for a death by cycling at 30mph, let's say in the last 20 years? The last government report from circa 2018 on 'cycling safety' (in truth an attack on people riding bikes full of lies and twisted opinion) had to admit in the smallest typeset possible as a footnote, found 4 cyclists at fault in the period 2013-2017 (inclusive) for a pedestrians death, at the same time 6 pedestrians were found wholly at fault for their deaths when in collision with a cyclist. 10 deaths occuring were not given any fault of either party. Meanwhile motorists were at fault for over 8,500 deaths.

[@Martin4963]

I do the exact same thing as Ashley and always have done, had a full clean driving licence for over 30, taken IAM test and held a psv licence for the past 13 years . During routine assessments, I've been criticised for been too over cautious at junctions. My answer has always been "you can never be too over cautious". Being "over cautious" has frequently kept me out of the shit.

[@chrisgale5634]

Cars parked right on top of junctions is now a huge problem.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

lcal authorities/highways dept don't give a shit, even worse when a lot of these people have driveways and garages!

[@iangordon5354]

My wife’s driving instructor used to regularly use the phrase “peep and creep”, and my wife still does and fits actions to words. I’m even starting to say it to myself sometimes. I’ve been a car driver since 1985, and a motorcyclist on and off for five years longer. My wife has been a driver for about six years. That’s TWO people teaching me to drive better!

[@yellowbird8690]

My daly drive is an MG TF. "With great fun comes great responsibility"

[@themittonmethod1243]

it would be interesting to do this drive again, with a motorbike rider following Ashley's procedure, and a gopro on their helmet on narrow view so that the viewers would see just how much head movement is needed to do this properly. cheers from Canada.

[@Dr3Mc3Ninja]

People just seem to hate changing down a gear. They want to keep it in second no matter what, so they rush it.

[@ibs5080]

Excellent points Ash. I particularly like the part about checking mirrors as soon as you've emerged onto the new road in case something was missed on the emerge, as well as to get an idea of how quickly to accelerate. One other aspect of sightlines for an emerge out of a side street into a main road. In such situations if I see a large vehicle such as a bus, artic lorry or even a regular van approaching from my right to left, although I still intend to wait I will make a point of looking to my left before such a vehicle passes in front of me i.e. before its mass blocks my view of the main road to my left. Great parting sentence by the way and illustrates the equivalent way of thinking for a car! Very much your style of dry humour! 🙂

[@andyuk2010]

6:05 is an absolute classic - drivers turn into roads without looking all the time and cause this. it's mental.

[@nadeemk9265]

I passed today first time!!! Thank you for all the video!!!

[@ashley_neal]

Great job!

[@nowiplay2]

I pulled out a junction I thought was clear the other day.. could’ve swore I had a gap, then when I came out a car swerved around me and slammed his brakes on in front of me sticking his middle finger out the window and mouthing off. I slowed and was a bit panicked over my mistake. My observations were clearly not good enough. Still don’t know how I missed him, I’m just thankful it didn’t end in a collision. Wish he didn’t react so aggressively though.

[@benedictearlson9044]

Welcome to angry Britain. If you simply flash a driver speeding and undertaking you can be asked to pull over for a fight. Lot's of morons out there I'm afraid.

[@alanrobertson9790]

Was driving in a strange town (Coventry) yesterday with terraced houses and endless parked cars and little vision at junctions. Ashley's advice for towns spot on.

[@alanrobertson9790]

@@madisntit6547 - Strange, A city I am not familiar with.😊

[@paul756uk2]

Over the last few years I've noticed that people just don't want to stop at junctions when turning left. Especially delivery van drivers, DPD being the worst by far. The pressure put on them by their employers means they almost have to drive dangerously to meet their targets.

[@lyubomirstefanov5276]

Thank you for sharing!

[@dannydee2668]

I am a cyclist, motorbiker and car driver and the only time I have had a near miss was being in a hurry, so for the last 20 years I have always given myself plenty of time to get to my destination and it means I can take my time and have very little stress on my travels. And if I get to work early I sit down and enjoy a nice coffee.

[@soledweller]

Another nice well presented video. I only wish they had the same idea when iv to sit through a piss boring CPC. Even now I’m learning some good tips from your videos. Spot on.👍

[@crazyt1483]

That occasionally inconveniencing others line is so true as due to some opaque blue boards round some temporary wall supports (going on a decade) and the fact it is a gradual curve means that if a car enters the view half a second after I have passed the commitment point (the point where if you braked you would cause a greater problem then if you went) then you would force them to slow

[@chrisgale5634]

Yes a lot of people look but don't see. A few extra seconds observing and not just looking!

[@johnnymichael1804]

Nice ending, Ashley! 🤣🤣 I just want to say your channel is fantastic! I live in the colonies, and have been driving for about 17 years now, but yet still find your videos very informative. I just take most of what you say and flip it to the other side of the road. 😜👍

[@ashley_neal]

That is awesome!

[@cjk32cam]

Did something provoke the closing comment? Maybe it’s different up north, but that’s a pretty gross mischaracterisation of roadies ‘round here. I’ve never heard anyone justify racing because they have a ‘race bike’. Do note that riding hard/fast is not the same thing as ‘racing’. Riding with the flow of traffic requires riding hard, but is perfectly reasonable to do with proper observations, signalling, positioning and speed, just as should be employed in/on any vehicle. A strong cyclist is really little different to a low-powered motorbike, something I wish people would consider before overtaking into a gap that doesn’t exist because I’m matching the speed of the vehicle in front. Returning to the roadies here, the stretch through town is just the bit necessary to get into the countryside, where junctions and other hazards are well spaced, and it is fitness that bounds your speed the vast majority of the time.

[@bazzacuda_]

What is "too fast" on a bike? Faster than the motor vehicle speed limit, faster than the general speed of traffic, a cyclist speed limit of 15mph? If you watch Cyclegaz's commutes, he cycles up to 30mph in London a lot of the time faster than the motor vehicle traffic around but still manages to stop at all red traffic lights, has good observation and gets really really fit in the process. I'm not actually sure there are any recorded statistics where excess speed on the part of a cyclist has been a causal factor in an accident.

[@cjk32cam]

For me, the general speed of the traffic is a safe upper limit when the traffic is free flowing. When not free flowing, it depends massively upon the situation, and changes very rapidly, e.g. for the heightened risk around junctions when in a bus lane and passing junctions whilst obscured from oncoming traffic turning right. I’m not saying Gaz rides dangerously, just that he rides faster in London traffic than I would for my awareness and acceptance of risk.

[@bazzacuda_]

@@cjk32cam Probably the same for me, I obey the motor vehicle speed limit in town regardless that it doesn't apply to me. It isn't practical to overtake vehicles that are only moving slightly slower so going with the speed of traffic is easiest. I actually think that the biggest factor in drivers emerging in front of cyclists is not that they haven't seen them but that they've emerged anyway. That can't be fixed by better observation, only by changing the driver's attitude.

[@pifko87]

Really bizarre comment to end the video with. So what if I'm on a road bike and can easily maintain 20mph? It's still easily below most speed limits...Being on a fast(er) bicycle doesn't mean I'm *not* going to exercise caution at risky junctions. Re: F1 car analogy, why do you need a BMW when a Ford Fiesta does the same job?

[@Ash_18037]

Don't take it personally man. He's talking about the lycra-clad morons 'commuting' along a shared pedestrian crossing at 30mph, 10 cm from pedestrians. Obviously not you ;)

[@ReXo31BbeaT]

Half the speed , twice the time. I’m learning. Thank you. 👍

[@ReXo31BbeaT]

It’s totally bizarre, but simply by watching your channel has changed my attitude towards my driving. When I passed my test in 1979 we didn’t have this kind of tuition. Keep up the excellent work Ashley , you’re making a real difference to many drivers , young & old . 👍

[@johndd9140]

I would guess that 80% of crashes occur at junctions. Driving too fast, and not enough observations - told by Ashley, the world's best BMW driver!

[@cactusbase3088]

And 99% of the rest are at roundabouts

[@vezzosetto]

Love your videos

[@cookiemonster2299]

Excellent vid, those A pillars can be a pain sometimes. I've noticed a lot that people's emerge technique isn't 'is the road clear' but more like, I've waited long enough so I'm just coming out.

[@bevmorris7434]

My Daughter has just started learning to drive, the other day she and her instructor came across a Pelican crossing. My Daughter slowed and stopped for the people to cross. There were people at both ends. Two were talking and the other two crossed nicely and thanked us for stopping, the other two however carried on talking. My Daughter said shall I carry on? Her instructor said NO, you never know how unpredictable people are in any situation! There were 3 cars behind me and because the last driver couldn't be bothered to wait he overtook us all, as you can probably gather just as the lady stepped out onto the crossing he hit her! Luckily her injuries weren't life threatening! The fact the driver's impatience caused an accident shows if he had waited just another 10 seconds she would of crossed safely. My Daughters instructor has the footage but he said it would be disrespectful to show it! My Daughter has been shaken by this and has struggled to drive at this crossing since. For the sake of a few seconds or even a minute please just keep calm and wait as you never know what people are going to do. Pelican crossings are different to zebra crossings. It ended up with everyone being held up.... Please don't let impatience get the better of you. Just wait until the traffic flows naturally again and we can all go on our way. We are all so glad she is ok. 💓

[@peebee143]

Do ya know, even as a pedestrian I am busy considering other people's needs. As an example at junctions. I am aware that my physical presence may form an obstruction to a motorist's view of oncoming traffic, so I always try to position myself away from the road edge so as to yield a better view of the road junction to approaching traffic. I would never stand on a street corner chatting the breeze with a bunch of friends.

[@benedictearlson9044]

Health and Safety is everyone's responsibility.

[@will4may175]

Ashley's vids are valuable, however they are very difficult to understand, it's that we are watching a BMW driver tell us how to drive properly, it does not compute 😋

[@st200ol]

All BMW drivers "think" they drive properly, this one actually does.

[@johndd9140]

😂 I was thinking the same! A BMW driver telling us to slow down and look - oh the irony...

[@alanrobertson9790]

LOL

[@KenMKenMKenM]

Honestly, the amount of car accidents purely down to people being impatient is ridiculous

[@eddie7167]

I'm glad you mentioned the pillars Ash. The A pillars on modern cars are so thick that they can mask a cyclist or motorbike initially. By just taking a little extra time at the junction anyone in this blind spot will emerge and reveal themselves.

[@benedictearlson9044]

They also mask pedestrians at crossing very well. The best way to avoid this danger is to look round them by quickly leaning forward then back - cyclists can remain in the A pillar blind spot for some time if your car is still creeping into a junction.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

My sons new Dacia Duster is far worse than the previous model for the A pillar obstructing sight lines out the vehicle. That said, all it takes is to move ones head and spend a bit more time looking as you've said. it's also another reason why as a regular cyclist I'm never riding in the gutter and in the case of junctions am more likely to be in primary position if I can see there is a motorist waiting to pull out. this gives me more space to either pull inside a vehicle where the motorist has not bothered looking, or worse looked and still pulled out, or move further out toward the central line. it also means motorists behind cannot overtake at that juncture - which they're not supposed to do in any case but ignore the HC as per.

[@andrewstorm8240]

Great video

[@SassyOnline]

The last point about the pillars blocking drivers vision, I've been in situations where entire cars have been blocked by my pillar even while moving so 100% look around them or you'll learn the hard way! If you're at an awkward junction, slow creeping, listening, looking for reflections, looking for lights and shadows all can really save you.

[@David-xc4us]

Great closing comment....I totally agree

[@5coaly]

As a biker, I always assume a car will not see me when emerging so pull over (e.g. to the right if emerging from the left) to allow them to see me better. I also use my horn to warn people. The most common mistake I see is when a car is emerging from the left and the car in front of me decides to turns left, so the emerging car often doesn’t see me behind that car. I tend to pull over to the right to give them a better view of me approaching (if safe to do so). It’s surprising how many times it has prevent drivers from thinking it’s clear to pull out! One of the many invaluable lessons I learnt from my advanced bike test.

[@philbaumbach5976]

'Creep and peep' was my RoSPA tutors creedo at tricky junctions.

[@PhantomViperPro]

This is an interesting video that I relate. I've been driving for 15 years, however recently on my drive to work, I've twice had trouble turning right onto an A road (50mph limit) of which is on a obscured curved bend. Meaning since the hedges have grown I have had extremely limited vision on when any vehicle is coming. The first time I had a bus driver waving his arms at me because after id pulled out, he appeared round the corner heading towards me. From his perspective he'd of had no time to stop, but he had a lot of time to wave his arms at me. from my perspective he had not appeared until I was half out into the road. Despite the obvious blind junction, the logic of drivers are to bulldoze on through. So, the second time I decided to edge forwards to creep into the road before committing, as you'd spoken about in your video. However this time I spotted a speedy van and paused at the junction, even possibly edged a little back in time as the van driver zoomed past holding down his horn continuously for at least 5 or 6 seconds. Both made me rage inside but ultimately you cant do right at this particular junction other then I guess, try to remain safe.

[@British99]

I have a junction with a right turn leaving my home. Unfortunately the visibility is virtually nil as there is a parking bay with vans parked in it. I drive a sports car, so being lower down I have even less visibility. Since I had a near miss with a car speeding from the right, the speed limit is 30mph, I now take a slightly longer alternative route which brings me out at a junction with better visibility. I know that this is a bit of a cop out, and that I will encounter other junctions with similar visibility issues on my travels. The tip about winding the window down is a very good one. On a similar note, roundabouts can also be difficult when someone pulls too far forward on your right, blocking your view of traffic coming from the right. Both these situations are further exacerbated by impatient drivers behind. It’s just a reminder to everyone that you have to be aware of what’s going on around you at all times, particularly so in built up areas.

[@themanhunt1234]

Until you meet an examiner who's anal about hindering traffic, and decides that you're taking too long to emerge. I got a serious fail for driving 37 in a 40, as it was a windy downhill stretch and it was slick.

[@LakesGeek]

Yeah I got a minor for hesitation emerging. I think this was the same examiner who, I was just about to pass, doing the reverse bay at the test centre, didn't quite line up right and pulled forward.... instant fail. He wanted me to "do it in one manoeuvre"

[@ynotnilknarf39]

This hitting the target BS is terrible, an examiner putting that as a black mark should be struck off, if this is what they are told to do then the exam itself is a huge fail. Listening to learners saying their instructors tell them to get up to the limit winds me right up!

[@kenbrown2808]

an additional point would be to be aware how far your nose is sticking forward when you do the creep to see around obstacles. it's sometimes hard to avoid, but it is a pretty common sight in my town to see someone creep until they are sticking out into the driving lane, and that's as bad as doing a bad emerge. also, if you have a traffic light with a turn permitted against the red (that would be a right turn in most places in the states, or a left in the UK,) but don't have clear visibility, it is often better just to wait for the green.

[@leslie7922]

When turning into a new road you should always check the rear vision mirror and adjust your speed accordingly

[@Explore2Adore]

Never presume a car signalling to exit onto the road you are emerging from is actually going to do that, check they are slowing down. Seen a few indicators left on and the driver continues straight ahead.

[@mikecarpenter3479]

As a driver of over 50 yrs (15 as a professional) I've learnt to watch people when emerging from side roads. You've got to watch their heads, which way are they facing, if they have been looking left for more than a few seconds as you approach them then there's a greater chance that they will start to pull out, so yes, anticipation is the key.

[@davidrumming4734]

Yep that’s exactly what I do….nose out….if sight is blocked, the give way line becomes the far side of the parked cars. Not forgetting to look round your own cars blind spots…massive pillars in modern cars can hide a car. Being aware of the situation…housing est = people walking out etc. Drove thru the nearby village. No paths., 30 limit. Blind corner ahead. A large group of children visible to my right…..so I think…special activity day? More children round this corner on my side? Turns out I was right. Luckily I was only doing 25. Can’t imagine the carnage if some of the speeders were going round there. Saw a car in a right turn only lane at the roundabout, turn left…no signals.

[@kirstinburdon5862]

Found this very interesting in relation to the area where I live and one junction in particular that I have to use regularly. It involves coming up a steep hill to turn left on to a street which is flat but has parked cars on both sides of the street being entered and often near the junction on the steep hill too. The view to the left and the right is usually completely blocked by parked cars and there are also parked cars directly opposite the steep hill. It is often just not possible to know if anything is coming from either direction until you have driven into the middle of the road (which is all that is left clear) to find someone close behind you or in front of you. Fortunately these are residential streets and the majority of drivers are familiar with them so are understanding/not going too fast. Other than looking out for headlights when its dark, is there anything else I could do to reduce the dangers of this junction when I already edge out very gingerly as it is? O is this a genuine cross your fingers moment?

[@horrortackleharry]

97%+ of horn use that I see on dashcam clips serves no practical function and simply makes the situation worse by encouraging hasty reactions.

[@margaretnicol3423]

They are not a warning - they're a punishment! :-)

[@easyspanieltraining]

It's good that you try to tell people that it is a two way process. As the saying goes 'he who gives up his right of way lives to see another day'...

[@diannemorgan1601]

The Ashley way is good.

[@stevekenilworth]

some junctions on Welsh A roads, one i always remember and done a few times but do try and avoid it, on mid s bend, high hedges,in dip you cannot see nothing until you are on the joining road so blocking a lane. example just to be able to see if right is clear you are blocking most that lane, not until you are half way out you can see the left. it can be a very fast set corners. if i did not put myself in danger id still be sat there now, the best i could do is windows down, and listen and take my time as totally blind until you in the kill area. no other way if you are on own. the first time i nearly turned around and went back over the mountain pass and take the very long way. that junction you are a sitting duck on a range, only a matter of times before the worst happens. id rather pull on to a duel 70 from a t junction than that one any day

[@neilmcdonnell2964]

My bosses kid actually got him to stop speeding up when someone emerged to quickly. He asked him what he was doing and he answered "He shouldn't have pulled out" Son said "but what are you going to do if you hit him" This really pulled him up on his actions. Indeed what would you do, I'm sure the police would take a dim view as well.

[@ilikechickensausages2075]

In Australia a lot a people have illegal tint on their window's, This is also a problem when i can't make eye contact with a driver because i can't see them on situation that are similar to this topic

[@cynic-al]

I find people look and don't see anything rather than looking and seeing an empty road. When I was taking hgv lessons they used to say that to look at something, your eyes focus and take in and process all the information takes 3 seconds. There are 10 places your supposed to look in a truck before moving off, that's 30 seconds. A lot can change in that time 🤷‍♂️

[@YT-rn8jp]

Very good guidance pertaining to present time when everyone seems to be in unexplained hurry.

[@David_Owsnett]

I agree completely. You have to give yourself time for good observations.

[@christopherbennell5983]

On a related theme, when emerging from a junction, some people look to the right, see nothing coming, and then swing out without looking to the left. There may be on-coming drivers passing parked vehicles and so potentially on the wrong side of the road! This is a frequent mistake. If I'm passing a parked vehicle, I am constantly looking out for someone to swing out and confront of me ahead, particularly on narrow built-up roads.

[@marklittler784]

Yeah traffic on the main road coming from either direction even on the wrong side or needing to go on the wrong side has priority.

[@paul756uk2]

Ash has done a video on that.

[@thecustardprophet8434]

I had a situation the other day where I got to a junction and couldn't see in either direction very well because of bushes/hedges and it was a fast(ish) road I was entering. I edged out as much as I could but still couldn't see as far as I would have liked in either direction (If I left my nose out further I thought there was a risk of traffic taking the front off my car). I couldn't see anything coming and made the decision to go. As I went there was a car coming in both directions. There was no accident, but I caused at least one of them to slow down. I apologised to the driver, but wasn't really sure how I could have gone about this situation better. Could I have done better, or is it just a dangerous junction (I appreciate this might be hard to answer without seeing it)?

[@focusedford2302]

Next year I can learn to drive, and this channel is going to be a big help

[@PedroConejo1939]

I often have to emerge onto busy, bendy, NSL single-carriageway roads with limited visibility at the junction, often made worse by uncut verges and hedges (welcome to the rurals). You'd be amazed how many drivers appear _after_ I've emerged and still get aggressive because they feel I've interrupted their progress. I don't hang about but simple maths should tell someone that unless I'm driving a high-powered car, I cannot possibly pull out and get up to speed before they arrive behind me. Tractors must really frustrate these drivers. One junction in particular even has flashing signs installed to warn them that there's a junction ahead but still they just don't get it. This is one area where the idiots who pelt around on sidelights or no lights in low/difficult light make things a lot worse - it may only be a split-second's difference in perception but sometimes it's the difference between go and no-go for the person waiting to emerge. Thanks for the guidance about not making things worse when someone emerges from a difficult junction. When you're on a fast, busy main road, you can be oblivious to just how difficult it can be to pull onto it from a side road, especially a right turn.

[@Lioness99a]

One of my friends lives on such a road and there’s not enough time to get up to 60 and then slow back down before his house so I get no end of people flying up behind me and being annoyed that I’m going closer to 40/45 (with my left indicator on to show I’m pulling in to his driveway shortly)...

[@PedroConejo1939]

@@Lioness99a People just love flying up behind someone, lights bright, brain dim, don't they?

[@ColinMill1]

I was going to make a similar comment. Part of the single track lane I live on is a NSL with high hedges making site-lines out of driveways very restricted. Unfortunately, it's sufficiently narrow that by the time you can see more than a few yards the bonnet of most cars are long enough to obstruct the road. You would have thought that people driving down such a lane would appreciate that the driver of a car creeping slowly out of a driveway can't see them until they can see the driver but apparently not.

[@PedroConejo1939]

@@ColinMill1 That describes me pulling out of my driveway perfectly. My visibility is about 15 metres to the left and 5 metres to the right, and before I can see along the lane to my right, I am completely blocking the (single track) lane. Still they bomb along it though.

[@Cream147player]

Bendy country roads are the worst. Local drivers who know the roads bomb down them thinking 60 is a minimum speed limit, and yeah, get frustrated at any slowdown including people emerging who couldn’t have possibly seen them, and drivers driving at a sensible speed for the road which should be far less than 60 going past those low visibility junctions.

[@kieran2k8lol]

About your "people approach a roundabout at high speed then just expect anyone emerging to give way" is kind of funny, i got pulled over by a police officer a couple of weeks ago because he wasn't impressed by my emerge even though he approached an extremely busy roundabout at high speed where my vision was pretty low because of an SUV to my right. Worth a mention his reaction to my emerge was initially to hold his horn for ~10 seconds then tail gate me for a minute or so BEFORE putting his blue lights on to pull me; but hey-ho i dare not say anything because i'll never win in those situations :)

[@WerdnaLiten]

I think there is a book/paper by a fast jet pilot about observance - and it can apply to driving, and junctions. Look right, look left and repeat, and again.....never assume it's clear.

[@DisleyDavid]

At my age (71) I am almost never in a hurry. This definitely takes off the pressure. If I miss a possible gap it doesn't upset me. I'm not sure if I would potentially fail a test for hesitation. Fortunately I don't have to take one.

[@gingernutpreacher]

Does this mean you constantly anger the drivers behind? Do people end up making dangerous over takes around you? serious question

[@DisleyDavid]

@@gingernutpreacher No. Certainly not. My care at junctions causes no issues. Though I cannot stop the dangerous overtakes by people who don't respect the speed limits.

[@margaretnicol3423]

Once you reach 70 you have to renew your driving licence more often. Do you think this makes sense if it doesn't come with at least a basic driving test? PS: Not being 'ageist'. I think people should undergo a short driving test when they renew their licence every 10 years too!

[@DisleyDavid]

@@margaretnicol3423 I am not convinced. There is possibly a case for retesting all drivers, maybe every 10 years, but that would need a vast increase in test facilities. I would support a basic medical to prove you are still fit; Reactions eyesight etc. Older drivers are generally safer that young drivers but I have seen a few elderly drivers who concern me.

[@DisleyDavid]

@@margaretnicol3423 Yes. It might just concentrate the minds of those who think they should no longer drive like their instructor taught them once they have passed the test. I never understood the attitudes of drivers who treat the road as a battle. Much better to keep it steady. The cars which speed past at 50 in the town still have to stop at the next traffic light.

[@dedenail]

Ashley would you be able to make a video on how not to follow suite on what that van driver did? I find myself also in the same position with a lot of my narrow roads in my area

[@jamesknightreading]

I always wind the windows down, as you can often hear someone approaching before you see them.

[@elliothunter2579]

I saw this happen just a few days ago - car came out of a road, nearly t-boning a lady who then almost crashed into me through no fault of her own due to avoiding said collision. Fortunately I had quick enough reactions to avoid this. Annoyingly, I then tried to report the chap in the other car to the Police as he was driving rather erratically (I suspect he may have been under the influence of something), and despite 3 attempts to contact them, could not get through. Great videos as always Ash, I passed almost 2 years ago now but I still watch videos regularly on your and other channels.

[@derryjones1029]

I took yr advice from a another video to just let it happen when people force there way in its so much easier than having heated arguments and safer👍

[@VSTV1993]

Formula 1 collection video INCOMING 😂👌

[@rufusgreenleaf2466]

I made a mistake the other day which i won't make again. Nothing bad happened but it could have happened. I was driving towards the end of the industrual estate as i'd finished work and i was checking the main road as normal before emerging which is a 60mph road so vehicles will be driving fast. I was turning right so i was near the middle line, i saw a long gap on the left and on the right but before i set off a van drove at the side of me to turn left but he completely blocked my observation. Only a second passed in which he set off to turn left. I knew a second ago it was clear for me to turn right so i took the chance and creeped right out into the road onto the other side. When i could see down the road again i was scared an on coming vehicle was going to be approaching with speed. Now i will just wait until i know it's clear before i set off at all passed the give way line. One time mistake but i admit i was an idiot, it won't happen again.

[@Pinie-ue9mz]

Nice bmw ash! 👍

[@caterthun4853]

I have pulled out at a junction and injured a motorcyclist. I did not see. I was at fault. Did I look both ways. Yes. Did I come out too fast. On hindsight I could have gone slower. Was the biker exceeding speed limit a pedestrian said yes. Do I still feel bad about it after 6 years.. Yes.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

Pedestrians have absolutely no clue as to speed, too often hear people say "speeding cyclist", and yet are not even close to 20mph, someone running at 10-12mph have been described as running like Usain Bolt. Slowing down, taking more time to look, look again and look again and as many times as need be to take in the information, to process what you can (AND CANT) see, to make sure that your actions will not impede or cause another harm is massively important, it could save an innocent persons life. I've been seriously injured as a cyclist due to a motorist not looking and not having control of their vehicle, got lucky when hit and run at a roundabout with just a graze (because I managed to brake and swerve away from the brunt of the collision at the last second), I doubt neither of the drivers had any remorse, neither were prosecuted, the hit and run driver was never caught. In a way I'm glad that you still feel bad about hurting someone, hopefully it serves as a constant reminder that our actions can have massive life changing consequences for others, particularly when we operate huge lumps of machinery.

[@Animalambulanceandy1]

I was always taught to slow creep but b ready to STOP and observe at least 2 secounds count 1 second 2 seconds observation either way .

[@VinDieselS70]

So what if there's a + or a 4 way junction as regardless where you are those ones feels like Russian roulette when you have cars turning left, right or going straight ahead.

[@bazzacuda_]

Don't you already own a BMW M3? Somewhere around 400bhp and 4seconds to 60mph, 155mph limited or north of 190mph delimited. I think you've already got a racing car for commuting.

[@Syo1]

Is that a correct way to spin the driving wheel when you are pass the begginer phase? Most people i saw have done it only in school and after that not anymore.

[@DashCamNetwork]

I did this on my test and had minor for hesitation at junctions. I still do this now as part of my every day driving

[@MohammedFahimUddin1999]

Dash Cam yeah cause it's hard to see you just have to go slowly I call it creep and crawl until you can see

[@spacerockerlightyears]

Many stay to far back from the giveaway lines. I always reminded learners that you need to get up to the line, particularly when emerging right. You’ll see not only learners way behind the line but also non learners. I would get the learner or non learner to use a reference point to gauge the front of the car in relation to the give way lines. Next time you’re out watch for the drivers who stay well behind the give way lines!

[@ynotnilknarf39]

Sometimes staying back in the first instance can give you a better view when there are parked cars or an obstruction to sight lines as Ashley had to contend with. Having that opportunity to look from that position first is better than not, because reversing to get that view is clearly not something one should be doing. So assessing BEFORE you arrive at the top of the junction to see if it might be advantageous to hold short and doing observations before pulling further might be the better choice. This means also going slower to the top of the junction which increases thinking time, it additionally gives space for pedestrians to cross safely, removing the hazard you present to other road users, vulnerable ones at that is paramount over you making progress. Also the actual layout of the road can mean it's safer to pull up a little short, this can give other vehicles (particularly longer/wider vehicles) whom have priority to turn into the road you're wishing to exit, more space to complete that turn and reduce the chances of contact. In that situation as the one making the turn from a priority position, potentially, and if safe to do so, cede my priority to the person wishing to exit from minor to major. This again removes the hazard and gives even more space to make that turn. Not all drivers will see it that way so it's encumbant upon you as the one 'giving way' to think about the layout and the what ifs for that particular scenario/environment and potential of something like that happening. Lastly, if there is a shared use lane for people on cycles, then you sometimes have to pull up short of the second give way lines to ensure you're not blocking that lane to oncoming cyclists whom do have priority.

[@ZEN43D]

Love these videos & really enjoy putting them into practice when driving. Cheers Ash

[@steamhammer2k]

I wish people would not drive upto giveways amd Stop signs fast then stand on the brakes at the last minute. If your on the main road you have react as if they are not stopping. in some cases i have had to slam on brakes to avoid a potential accident. it only delays them more as they have to wait for me to pass them at a much slower speed than if they had approched the junction at a sensible speed.

[@johanvankralingen7944]

Appreciate the bit of sarcasm at the end, haha!

[@xxsuperjohn]

Good video Ash, cheers. Understanding the viewpoint of other road users is a big part of driving safely.

[@zzhughesd]

Ashley. Local authorities and time plates parking on yellows. And urban clearways. Clearways. And red routes. I’m struggling PT3 get grasps memory mind map everything to be technically proficient in knowledge. It’s stressing me out now. Should I be so concerned. Rote learning isn’t cutting it at 44. It isn’t getting absorbed. I know car secured turned off instructor and learner and check on move internet but it isn’t best professional is it. Any advise ? PT3 is stressful. At least for me

[@Captain-Cardboard]

When there are no such things as dashcam channels..Ash's work will be complete!

[@tinnagigja3723]

It bugs me endlessly as a pedestrian when a driver zooms over a crosswalk/merges instead of letting me cross, since the effort it takes them to make up that "lost time" is way less than mine.

[@michaelgurd7477]

On my bike it's daylight running lights, try to make eye contact with any car at a junction and thank the ones that could have pulled out but didn't.

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

(02:09) That is a fantastic view. I'd never considered this before, but a camera on the roof of a car (along with a dash mounted screen) would take the 'A' pillar out of the equation. This could go a long way to stopping a huge number of junction collisions - particularly those involving cars on two wheeled vehicles, which can often be hidden behind the 'A' pillar.

[@Martin-uf4ut]

i agree, i cant believe vans don't have a camera at the rear either. i can imagine them being so useful

[@PedroConejo1939]

Didn't VW introduce a sideways-looking camera on the nose of the Passat some years ago? I remember seeing an ad on TV but never heard anything of it after that.

[@margaretnicol3423]

If they can get cars to park themselves then safety cameras shouldn't be so difficult. They already have the technology.

[@andrewnorris5415]

Yes, the irony is that the pillar regulations are there to protect the car occupants which are very safe now, but actually make cyclist injuries (vulnerable people) more likely. When I cycle I always look out for junctions and try to learn to worse ones.

[@PedroConejo1939]

@@andrewnorris5415 As a motorcyclist, I was taught to gently move to the right of the lane for someone waiting on the left, or to the left for someone waiting on the right. This increases your perceived speed across the field of view of the waiting driver, thus increasing visibility. Not always possible on a bicycle but worth remembering if you can. Doing the opposite can make you appear stationary to the waiting driver.

[@Will-it6ds]

Great video ash, I hate having to emerge if my views obstructed, sometimes I have to emerge to go right however there’s always queuing traffic on the one bit of road however the other bit there’s a turn right lane as it’s just before a roundabout. The turn right is never queued up though so when I used to join my view was obstructed by queuing traffic and they used to speed down the other lane. I no longer try and turn right there in busy conditions as I just find it’s to dangerous so I go left instead into queuing traffic then into the right lane and just go round the roundabout as it’s a whole lot safer I find.

[@richard-bt1lq]

👍

[@claireitsme]

This video is one of my favourites...Speed can kill !!! 🚗

[@paul756uk2]

It's inappropriate speed that kills and that can mean doing 30 in a 30 limit.

[@tbridgey2619]

Always feel for old Jaguar XJS/R owners in situations like this 😔😔

[@ibs5080]

I was thinking along similar lines. Extra long bonnet (hood), right?

[@tbridgey2619]

Aye. Late 90's to mid 00's series. Bonnet so big it calls for a game of cricket 🏏 😆😂

[@ibs5080]

@@tbridgey2619 Imagine pulling out of a junction with limited visibility in an E type Jag!

[@tbridgey2619]

@@ibs5080 alternate route inputted - avoid B roads 😆😆

[@iwalker3809]

@@tbridgey2619 and the Ford Capri

[@ToppledTurtle834]

Luckely most of our bokes are off the road and on bike lanes.

[@1066gaz]

Also don't let motorists pressurise you from behind if your taking your time at the junction.

[@richardbower8707]

Interested that you seem to be recommending looking fast many times .. I was taught to look carefully twice. Then go if clear but check for anything coming into view. I guess it all depends on the situation and just how restricted the initial view is?